I have been driving my electric car for 13 years now and the only maintenance costs has been tires and brakes for me. I also have a solar powered off grid house which supplies all of my electricity for vehicle, charging and living. All of my power tools are high end, cordless tools, and I have no regrets at all. I’ve had a Solar system since 1998. It’s funny watching people debate this issue. Get off the drip , the oil drip. It’s like we’re a bunch of energy junkies that can’t seem to get a grip
@@blakespower the cost of an EV will be cheaper than an ICE car soon. At the rate gas cars are going up and EVs dropping I’d say in the next 5 years it’ll be cheaper to outright buy an EV than gas car. The average ICE car now sells for $40k.
Trick Question: Which of the 3 basic EV drivetrains (BEV vs PHEV vs HFCEV) offers the most benefits, applications and potential to reduce fuel/energy consumption, emissions AND insane traffic? Your answer here __ __ __ __ WRONG! The correct answer is PHEV plug-in hybrid. Equitable distribution of battery, PV solar array and hydrogen resources would effectively serve most households. PHEV+H (combustible hydrogen and/or small scale hydrogen fuel cell) paired with small PHEV battery packs matched to small rooftop solar arrays. Standard hybrid sedans (Prius & Chevy Volt class) get 40-45mpg. When daily drives are kept under 30 miles in the Prius and 50 miles in the Chevy Volt, mileage jumps to 125mpg & 150mpg, thus creating an economic incentive to drive less, the ONLY solution to global warming and ultimately reducing idiotic traffic across whole metropolitan areas. If the Toyota Mirai can be said to get 50mpg on hydrogen, the same pairing of PHEV battery pack to fuel cell stack can triple MPG. PHEV tech is especially applicable to long haul freight truck fleets where combustible hydrogen in an ICEngine can similarly increase fuel/energy economy.
It's not about EVs... batteries are crucial for so many critical components of current and future technology, that the US cannot maintain its dependence on China. A striking case study on this are military-use drones, which are likely to be the dominant weapon of war in the coming years, if not decades. Supporting the innovation of better batteries is crucial in the drone-race.
Right on! I’ve been saying this for a while now and most just don’t get it. It’s a national security issue. Ukraine is a good example using drones and British made robot dogs for reconnaissance/supplies. The military implications are incredible and everything is powered by electric motors and batteries.
I should have also pointed out that being able to charge at home saves so much money compared to ICE over the lifetime of the vehicle that it would be reasonable to spend 20k more to get an EV. But they’re almost at price parity
Mining from lithium from hard rock needs guzzling amounts of water to process, clean water that has been turned very toxic in the process , lithium is a toxic element unlike gold, it is super dangerous to recycle lithium, lithium battery fire is just impossible to put out as seen around the globe in the few recycling plants which have gone up in toxic fumes, no investors in there right mind wants to invest in this difficult process, no insurance company will back it up and comparing it to oil or an exxon mobile spill, the lithium spills that are happening right now in land fills is equivalent to a nuclear chernobyle ever year to the oceans, water and atmosphere, and this is just land fills, this will get much worst if Elon tesla sqeekers like you are spreading lithium as being an eco friendly shenanigans! get educated and visit a lithium recycle plant to see it`s horrfic toxic dangers, lithium mining should be prohibited on this planet!
@@Joa-y4y - You're hilarious; I hope you're paid by the oil cartel for your propaganda. As of 2021 there were already 15-Billion cell phones on the planet; are you using one to post your nonsense? Do you have any cordless power tools? Have you looked into the pollution caused by oil refining and fracking? How about all the cobalt used in the oil refining process as catalysts?
A $7,500 tax credit does no good for us retired persons that live on social security checks. We live in a small town (population about 15,000) that has very few places to charge an ev. The towns in the rest of our county have none. When the cost to purchase an ev comes down and when there are more places to charge an ev in rural areas, maybe evs will make more sense.
It’s hard and expensive to fight against new tech to preserve outdated tech (fossil fuels). The better and cheaper tech wins in the end anyway,sneakingin
EVs are better in every way vs ICE cars. Except for range, charging time, and price. But all those will get fixed in the coming years. There is far too much money on the table for the company that can make a high capcity, fast charging, long lasting, cheap, recylable battery. Probably in the trillions of dollars of potential profits. Yeah, it's coming. Be happy about it. I own an ev motorcycle. It's a massive improvement over my old ice motorcycle. Quiet. Doesn't smell. Doesn't get hot underneath me. Quick. Nimble. No oil filter. No oil. No spark plugs. No air filter. After 5 years of ownership, I've had to replace the brake fluid. That's 100% of my maitenance. I will have the bike until I die. EV cars will get this way as well. You'll be able to buy 1 car in your 20s, and drive it until you die.
@@bobtuiliga8691 I live in a rural region in the northern US and plan to buy an EV in the next 2 weeks. The major compromises of EVs have practical use and engineering solutions that have proven to be effective.
I don’t like the superior music listening experience that comes with the quiet drive of an EV. Can’t stand it. It’s almost as bad as saving time by always filling up at home.
The $7,500 credit must be eliminated since not all citizens (living in the territories) have it available. The car companies must start to make lower price EVs so that those credits become unnecessary.
We've been living a nightmare for the last 4 years. This "article" isn't going to age well. The tide is already turning against forcing the public into EVs.
Teslas are better - China scrambles to copy every new thing Tesla does because they know how good they are. But after Tesla Chinese EVs (the good ones) are better than anything traditional automakers have. Rivian and Lucid are also good.
@juliahello6673 Copy and made better. It wasn't Tesla that made Fords CEO shuck. It was a Chinese vehicle. Which he ended up daily'ing to figure out how to copy.
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China’s battery boom to which the US is scrambling to catch up. Wild how quickly China surpassed Japan, Germany, and the US to be the world’s leading auto exporter.
Huh, that's funny. Electric vehicle sales everywhere are down. And here's Forbes reporting that there's an EV battery boom. Seems like to me. Somebody wants to manipulate things to make some money. One thing you can always count on greed. Whether it helps someone or not
I agree with you that people will believe what their bias wants them to believe, and bias "fact" reporting is driving that problem into a wall. The reality is EVs are in actual fact increasing with regards to new vehicle sales in proportion. All car sales are down due to cost and inflation, but EVs keep taking up larger and larger shares of those sales. While EV sales may be down (only in certain areas), the people who buy cars new are choosing EVs at a greater rate than ever. It doesn't mean that there isn't work to do to improve charging infrastructure, power generation, battery density, charging speed, etc. But everything is improving incrementally. and that's a good thing. People complained, manufacturers are improving, governments gave incentives to lower the financial burden.
@ThePilotGear I because of failure in integrated industrial policies. Lesson learned is you cannot change the fundamentals energy successfully without an intelligent framework across the affected industries and consumers. Without it you only grabbed taxpayers money without support from the ecosystem but all gambled risks become mainly you naively believed the lawless central state control in China!
In the UK, £bn’s are handed to oil and gas/fossil fuel companies in the form of subsidies and tax breaks. I very much suspect the US applies similar support. Why would an incredibly mature industry still require help and funding? If you withdraw help and funding for one, should you not apply the same principle to the other? And why would you be against building and supporting jobs and manufacturing in a new technological era, rather than one rooted in the 19th Century?
Gas and oil subsidies, tax breaks have far outstripped renewable subsidy by a huge factor. If you want to level the playing field start in the righh direction.
Looks like this guy had no idea the US Government provides subsidies and tax breaks for big oil every year. Last year was $20.5 billion in subsidies alone, not including tax breaks. And that doesn’t even include the $8.2 billion they claimed for pandemic relief by way of the CARES Act. If we’re going to go removing any and all subsidies/tax breaks, we need to he consistent about it across the board.
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EVs are rapidly becoming price-consistent with ICE cars except from legacy car makers who haven't realised what has already happened - we have reached the EV tipping point and more drivers are opting for EVs than ever before. Can't fight it now, it's happened. Once you've driven an EV you never want to go back to an old technology.
It's happening now; they're almost at price-parity. Give it a few more years and even Elon himself won't be able to stop his competitors from building cheaper-than-ICE cars in every segment.
The only boom coming is the EV's catching fire and blowing up... They are not environmentally friendly as people think. Between mining for the lithium, power plants can't keep up with demand as is. And there are still many coal burning power plants. If you really want an environmentally friendly car, it would be hydrogen. yes, it's not quite as popular right now. But it would be easier adding filling stations / gas stations that can carry it.. EV's are nothing but a smoke screen and bringing a lot of $$ to government officials and others.
I hope that you at least enjoyed the koolaid. EVs catch fire far less frequently than do ICE cars. Given that the c stands for combustion, this should come as no surprise.
@@SigFigNewton Yea, I don't think so. Unless an ICE car was in a severe accident, or someone working on one, where a gas line leaked. you never hear an ICE catching fire in your garage or driveway, while just sitting there or being charged, You best do your research.
@@ryj5284 It is most often older ICE cars. The gunk that builds up under the hood get lit by heat from friction of a failing part or some kind of electrical failure. Right now ICE cars statistically have over many times the burn rate of EVs. "According to U.S. government data, EV fires appear to occur less frequently than internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle fires, with 25 fires for every 100,000 electric vehicles sold compared to 1,529 fires for every 100,000 ICE vehicles sold. "
It is funny, with these cars failing left and right, and the automakers barely surviving cause they stopped doing what was right, now we will watch them fall. EV's are for those who do not value the car, and are not intelligent enough to understand the machine. Thank goodness my gas cars were built during a time when they knew what they were doing. I will never give them up, no matter what.
All that will go away is the rapid depreciation of EVs, which was caused first and foremost by the tax credits effectively making the vehicle worth 7500 more to the person who buys it new
@@terrymoorecnc2500 what automakers are currently gaining market share? It’s those who are best at manufacturing affordable EVs. Tesla and BYD thrive while legacy flounders
"The United States subsidizes the fossil fuel industry with taxpayer dollars. It’s not just the US: according to the International Energy Agency, fossil fuel handouts hit a global high of $1 trillion in 2022 - the same year Big Oil pulled in a record $4 trillion of income. In the United States, by some estimates taxpayers pay about $20 billion dollars every year to the fossil fuel industry. What do we get for that? Economists generally agree: not much. To quote conservative economist Gib Metcalf: these subsidies offer 'little if any benefit in the form of oil patch jobs, lower prices at the pump, or increased energy security for the country.'" --U.S. Senate Committee on the Budget - 5/03/23
@KTPurdy EVs are being purchased. Have you seen Tesla's latest sales numbers? Furthermore better batteries (lighter, faster charging, longer range, etc) means more people will purchase EVs just like humans have done for decades when other technology improves. I remember when a 15" LCD monitor cost 700.00. Now you can purchase a 60" LCD TV for 500.00. EVs will become more mainstream, just like other technology, when manufacturing cost goes down. Seems politization is causing most of the negativity. Electrification is the next logical step for transportation.
EV sales this year are higher than in 2023. Just like sales in 2023 were higher than they were in 2022, when they were higher than in 2021… and so on. Data won’t bite.
It’s military security. Better batteries, better drones. It’s energy security. Better batteries could mean solar power is all we need. It’s jobs. EVs will take over, and I would like for the US to still have a thriving automotive industry.
Battery production definitely takes an environmental toll, no doubt. But the alternative, continuing to drill, refine and burn fossil fuels is significantly worse. Battery materials also have the ability to be recycled at a very low environmental cost; not something that's possible for spent fossil fuels.
A typical gas car burns 500 gallons of gasoline a year, over 5000 gallons in its lifetime, weighing about 30,000 pounds, and generating about 100,000 pounds of CO2. (If that seems weird to you, remember that the O2 part of CO2 comes from the air, not from the fuel.) Where does THAT come from? Now, keep in mind that all the metals in an EV battery are 100% recyclable. And they’re high value and easy to collect when a car is scrapped. So once we have enough to power all the vehicles, we can more or less stop mining and rely on recycling for the metals for new batteries. (We’re getting close to that with steel - 70% of steel in new American products is recycled already.)
A typical gas car burns 500 gallons of gasoline a year, over 5000 gallons in its lifetime, weighing about 30,000 pounds, and generating about 100,000 pounds of CO2. (If that seems weird to you, remember that the O2 part of CO2 comes from the air, not from the fuel.) Where does THAT come from? Now, keep in mind that all the metals in an EV battery are 100% recyclable. And they’re high value and easy to collect when a car is scrapped. So once we have enough to power all the vehicles, we can more or less stop mining and rely on recycling for the metals for new batteries. (We’re getting close to that with steel - 70% of steel in new American products is recycled already.)
Oh please electric catd and trucks are 40 percent less efficient then point of use gas. Remember it's the line loss, also more emissions from ev. I still want one but these cars are energy pigs.
EVs are many times more efficient than ICE vehicles. The emissions are far less. The loss in transporting the energy to the EV is tiny compared with the immense amount of energy that ICE vehicles waste as heat. That’s the most noticeable visual difference between an EV and an ICE car. The ICE car wastes such an enormous amount of energy to heat that it requires a grille in front to keep the whole machine from overheating.
Inefficient to the point of becoming obsolete just like incandescent light bulbs, which are less efficient in large part because of all the energy lost as heat.
@@SigFigNewtongalavanting the gas all around the countryside by truck then burning it and only extracting the expansion energy, none of the heat. Sounds like your referring to ice cars.
I have been driving my electric car for 13 years now and the only maintenance costs has been tires and brakes for me. I also have a solar powered off grid house which supplies all of my electricity for vehicle, charging and living. All of my power tools are high end, cordless tools, and I have no regrets at all. I’ve had a Solar system since 1998. It’s funny watching people debate this issue. Get off the drip , the oil drip. It’s like we’re a bunch of energy junkies that can’t seem to get a grip
Nah, I prefer more moving parts.
NASA engineers don’t know what they are talking about, trying to minimize moving parts on spacecraft.
Most people arent rich like you and have work trucks
@@blakespower the cost of an EV will be cheaper than an ICE car soon. At the rate gas cars are going up and EVs dropping I’d say in the next 5 years it’ll be cheaper to outright buy an EV than gas car. The average ICE car now sells for $40k.
@@blakespower the average new F150 sells for $60k.. not sure if you know that.
Trick Question: Which of the 3 basic EV drivetrains (BEV vs PHEV vs HFCEV) offers the most benefits, applications and potential to reduce fuel/energy consumption, emissions AND insane traffic?
Your answer here __ __ __ __
WRONG! The correct answer is PHEV plug-in hybrid. Equitable distribution of battery, PV solar array and hydrogen resources would effectively serve most households. PHEV+H (combustible hydrogen and/or small scale hydrogen fuel cell) paired with small PHEV battery packs matched to small rooftop solar arrays.
Standard hybrid sedans (Prius & Chevy Volt class) get 40-45mpg. When daily drives are kept under 30 miles in the Prius and 50 miles in the Chevy Volt, mileage jumps to 125mpg & 150mpg, thus creating an economic incentive to drive less, the ONLY solution to global warming and ultimately reducing idiotic traffic across whole metropolitan areas.
If the Toyota Mirai can be said to get 50mpg on hydrogen, the same pairing of PHEV battery pack to fuel cell stack can triple MPG.
PHEV tech is especially applicable to long haul freight truck fleets where combustible hydrogen in an ICEngine can similarly increase fuel/energy economy.
It's not about EVs... batteries are crucial for so many critical components of current and future technology, that the US cannot maintain its dependence on China. A striking case study on this are military-use drones, which are likely to be the dominant weapon of war in the coming years, if not decades. Supporting the innovation of better batteries is crucial in the drone-race.
Right on! I’ve been saying this for a while now and most just don’t get it. It’s a national security issue. Ukraine is a good example using drones and British made robot dogs for reconnaissance/supplies. The military implications are incredible and everything is powered by electric motors and batteries.
Of course it is about EVs too.
We don’t need EVs
@@RandyB-p5u 😂
@RandyB-p5u Afraid of new things
Evs will soon be so much better than ice that the 2035 rules won't be needed. Battery storage makes solar and wind generation truly viable.
They’re already the more pragmatic choice for most people who can charge at home instead of being forced to waste time going to gas stations.
The enormity of that fact is only slowly sinking in. The deathknell is tolling for fossil fuels.
I should have also pointed out that being able to charge at home saves so much money compared to ICE over the lifetime of the vehicle that it would be reasonable to spend 20k more to get an EV.
But they’re almost at price parity
Mining from lithium from hard rock needs guzzling amounts of water to process, clean water that has been turned very toxic in the process , lithium is a toxic element unlike gold, it is super dangerous to recycle lithium, lithium battery fire is just impossible to put out as seen around the globe in the few recycling plants which have gone up in toxic fumes, no investors in there right mind wants to invest in this difficult process, no insurance company will back it up and comparing it to oil or an exxon mobile spill, the lithium spills that are happening right now in land fills is equivalent to a nuclear chernobyle ever year to the oceans, water and atmosphere, and this is just land fills, this will get much worst if Elon tesla sqeekers like you are spreading lithium as being an eco friendly shenanigans! get educated and visit a lithium recycle plant to see it`s horrfic toxic dangers, lithium mining should be prohibited on this planet!
@@Joa-y4y - You're hilarious; I hope you're paid by the oil cartel for your propaganda. As of 2021 there were already 15-Billion cell phones on the planet; are you using one to post your nonsense? Do you have any cordless power tools? Have you looked into the pollution caused by oil refining and fracking? How about all the cobalt used in the oil refining process as catalysts?
Biden did good 👍🇺🇲
I am still not a "Biden fan", but I think he'll go down as one of the greatest presidents of all time. To bad most people will never know why.
@@bikebudha01 I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.
It's bigger than any presidency.
It’s a scam
@rincerta so is car insurance.
@@bornjusticerule5764 you can opt out
@rincerta precisely. Don't buy an electric vehicle.
@ did you watch the vid, they pour taxpayer money to subsidize battery
Let’s go Hyundai! 😅 love my Ioniq 6 and charging my car for Pennies. My stock portfolio is climbing too. It’s a great life
A $7,500 tax credit does no good for us retired persons that live on social security checks. We live in a small town (population about 15,000) that has very few places to charge an ev. The towns in the rest of our county have none. When the cost to purchase an ev comes down and when there are more places to charge an ev in rural areas, maybe evs will make more sense.
It’s hard and expensive to fight against new tech to preserve outdated tech (fossil fuels). The better and cheaper tech wins in the end anyway,sneakingin
EV's are the future.....
Definitely 😂 the thought of going back to an ICE car after an EV is laughable. Will never go back to ICE
Some of us already are in the EV future, and won’t go back
Volvo is owned by geely, on of the biggest chinese car makers
This was informative and fun. Thanks Forbes
EVs are better in every way vs ICE cars. Except for range, charging time, and price. But all those will get fixed in the coming years. There is far too much money on the table for the company that can make a high capcity, fast charging, long lasting, cheap, recylable battery. Probably in the trillions of dollars of potential profits. Yeah, it's coming. Be happy about it. I own an ev motorcycle. It's a massive improvement over my old ice motorcycle. Quiet. Doesn't smell. Doesn't get hot underneath me. Quick. Nimble. No oil filter. No oil. No spark plugs. No air filter. After 5 years of ownership, I've had to replace the brake fluid. That's 100% of my maitenance. I will have the bike until I die. EV cars will get this way as well. You'll be able to buy 1 car in your 20s, and drive it until you die.
what model is your bike
Im guessing you live in a major urban center
@@bobtuiliga8691 I live in a rural region in the northern US and plan to buy an EV in the next 2 weeks. The major compromises of EVs have practical use and engineering solutions that have proven to be effective.
@@bobtuiliga8691 not really, my city is just over 200,000 people.
I don’t like the superior music listening experience that comes with the quiet drive of an EV. Can’t stand it. It’s almost as bad as saving time by always filling up at home.
The $7,500 credit must be eliminated since not all citizens (living in the territories) have it available. The car companies must start to make lower price EVs so that those credits become unnecessary.
The "battery boom" is mythical. The only boom will be from cells rupturing during thermal runaway.
These next 4. Yrs are going to be interesting.
Poor Americans, they are going to reap what they voted for - they will wake up to a bad dream.
F.A.F.O.!
We've been living a nightmare for the last 4 years.
This "article" isn't going to age well. The tide is already turning against forcing the public into EVs.
We know he's definitely going to take credit for it when it happens 😂🤣
China, in no time, has made quick work of dismantling legacy auto. Right now, the best riding vehicle on any road globally is a Chinese vehicle.
Yeah except noone in the West wants one. But good for the Chinese and I am not crying for the corrupt fossil car companies
LMAO! Most idiotic statement I’ve ever heard.
Teslas are better - China scrambles to copy every new thing Tesla does because they know how good they are. But after Tesla Chinese EVs (the good ones) are better than anything traditional automakers have. Rivian and Lucid are also good.
@juliahello6673 Copy and made better. It wasn't Tesla that made Fords CEO shuck. It was a Chinese vehicle. Which he ended up daily'ing to figure out how to copy.
Randy has extensive experience with Chinese EVs?
Or he makes claims about things about which he knows nothing?
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We are going from adults running the government to teenage punks. What can go wrong?
Its China's EV Battery Boom that has arrived 😂 so Xi's Boom Boom 💥 💥🥾⛽️
id switch gears on the voice over
orange jesus
it's just 4 years. The world keeps turning.
*burning
@@ThePilotGear New bills/laws and changes in regulations affect coming decades. “It’s just 4 years” isn’t true.
@@ab3000xnext president's reign will only be 4 years, and China's going to flood the market if we can't be competitive.
It's nascent not nescent
PS - GM is taking all of that to Mexico.
I'm not sure how to be able find this goal but Id the time for car's starts to become automatically, I have one question The goodness make of all information and electric power generated by the vehicle in the street isn't available to pay the passengers ?
Elon’s battery boom. Fixed it for you.
Tesla uses Chinese batteries too
China’s battery boom to which the US is scrambling to catch up.
Wild how quickly China surpassed Japan, Germany, and the US to be the world’s leading auto exporter.
Huh, that's funny. Electric vehicle sales everywhere are down.
And here's Forbes reporting that there's an EV battery boom. Seems like to me. Somebody wants to manipulate things to make some money. One thing you can always count on greed.
Whether it helps someone or not
Y'all pay more for carbon credits to fund this government cronyism..utter disgrace
You are in denial. EV's are taking over. Just because it's not a straight line up all the time doesn't mean that's it's not happening.
I agree with you that people will believe what their bias wants them to believe, and bias "fact" reporting is driving that problem into a wall. The reality is EVs are in actual fact increasing with regards to new vehicle sales in proportion. All car sales are down due to cost and inflation, but EVs keep taking up larger and larger shares of those sales. While EV sales may be down (only in certain areas), the people who buy cars new are choosing EVs at a greater rate than ever.
It doesn't mean that there isn't work to do to improve charging infrastructure, power generation, battery density, charging speed, etc. But everything is improving incrementally.
and that's a good thing. People complained, manufacturers are improving, governments gave incentives to lower the financial burden.
@ThePilotGear I because of failure in integrated industrial policies. Lesson learned is you cannot change the fundamentals energy successfully without an intelligent framework across the affected industries and consumers. Without it you only grabbed taxpayers money without support from the ecosystem but all gambled risks become mainly you naively believed the lawless central state control in China!
I take it you haven’t looked at sales data.
It's not the EVs, it's the mandates and federal funding. Let EVs stand out fall on their own. Let the market decide.
You don’t think preventing CO2 emission should be stimulated?
In the UK, £bn’s are handed to oil and gas/fossil fuel companies in the form of subsidies and tax breaks. I very much suspect the US applies similar support. Why would an incredibly mature industry still require help and funding? If you withdraw help and funding for one, should you not apply the same principle to the other? And why would you be against building and supporting jobs and manufacturing in a new technological era, rather than one rooted in the 19th Century?
Good idea. Let big oil stand or fall on their merit. Let's be fair.
Gas and oil subsidies, tax breaks have far outstripped renewable subsidy by a huge factor. If you want to level the playing field start in the righh direction.
Looks like this guy had no idea the US Government provides subsidies and tax breaks for big oil every year. Last year was $20.5 billion in subsidies alone, not including tax breaks. And that doesn’t even include the $8.2 billion they claimed for pandemic relief by way of the CARES Act. If we’re going to go removing any and all subsidies/tax breaks, we need to he consistent about it across the board.
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The great expanse of the western United States and a total lack of charging infrastructure there has entered the chat.
SO - is that the total market?
????? Lack of charging infrastructure ???? Have you not seen a map of Tesla superchargers ?
Isn’t California a western state? I think there’s a bit of infrastructure there?
Where’s there a total lack of charging infrastructure? Alaska? Yeah sorry bud you don’t count.
Fake news
And who’s gonna be buying these over priced turds? Not Americans😂
EVs are rapidly becoming price-consistent with ICE cars except from legacy car makers who haven't realised what has already happened - we have reached the EV tipping point and more drivers are opting for EVs than ever before. Can't fight it now, it's happened. Once you've driven an EV you never want to go back to an old technology.
It's happening now; they're almost at price-parity. Give it a few more years and even Elon himself won't be able to stop his competitors from building cheaper-than-ICE cars in every segment.
The most affordable vehicles on the planet are EVs. US spending on batteries is to catch up.
It’s more affordable in the long run to own an EV
@@robertjamesonmusic not with depreciation factored in
100 % chance most of this stuff never comes online
Nothing Democrats push benefit America.
At what point will you admit that you were wrong?
The only boom coming is the EV's catching fire and blowing up... They are not environmentally friendly as people think. Between mining for the lithium, power plants can't keep up with demand as is. And there are still many coal burning power plants. If you really want an environmentally friendly car, it would be hydrogen. yes, it's not quite as popular right now. But it would be easier adding filling stations / gas stations that can carry it.. EV's are nothing but a smoke screen and bringing a lot of $$ to government officials and others.
I hope that you at least enjoyed the koolaid.
EVs catch fire far less frequently than do ICE cars.
Given that the c stands for combustion, this should come as no surprise.
@@SigFigNewton Yea, I don't think so. Unless an ICE car was in a severe accident, or someone working on one, where a gas line leaked. you never hear an ICE catching fire in your garage or driveway, while just sitting there or being charged, You best do your research.
toyota has it right. every other automaker is in on the conspiracy! you are hilarious
@@ryj5284 It is most often older ICE cars. The gunk that builds up under the hood get lit by heat from friction of a failing part or some kind of electrical failure. Right now ICE cars statistically have over many times the burn rate of EVs.
"According to U.S. government data, EV fires appear to occur less frequently than internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle fires, with 25 fires for every 100,000 electric vehicles sold compared to 1,529 fires for every 100,000 ICE vehicles sold. "
@@ryj5284 it’s about a factor of ten. Number of fires per vehicle mile driven. ICE catch fire far more. Haven’t ever seen a dataset dispute that.
Lol
It is funny, with these cars failing left and right, and the automakers barely surviving cause they stopped doing what was right, now we will watch them fall. EV's are for those who do not value the car, and are not intelligent enough to understand the machine. Thank goodness my gas cars were built during a time when they knew what they were doing. I will never give them up, no matter what.
End the subsidies and this EV madness goes away.
Suuuure
All that will go away is the rapid depreciation of EVs, which was caused first and foremost by the tax credits effectively making the vehicle worth 7500 more to the person who buys it new
Ask the VW, Porsche, Audi workers how it's going, or better yet, how many Lightnings are still in Inventory.
@@terrymoorecnc2500 what automakers are currently gaining market share?
It’s those who are best at manufacturing affordable EVs. Tesla and BYD thrive while legacy flounders
"The United States subsidizes the fossil fuel industry with taxpayer dollars. It’s not just the US: according to the International Energy Agency, fossil fuel handouts hit a global high of $1 trillion in 2022 - the same year Big Oil pulled in a record $4 trillion of income. In the United States, by some estimates taxpayers pay about $20 billion dollars every year to the fossil fuel industry. What do we get for that? Economists generally agree: not much. To quote conservative economist Gib Metcalf: these subsidies offer 'little if any benefit in the form of oil patch jobs, lower prices at the pump, or increased energy security for the country.'"
--U.S. Senate Committee on the Budget - 5/03/23
Tell me you can't read the room without telling me you can't read the room Forbes...
EV cars are a waste of money.
Which EV cars have you own?
Why do you say that, Stacy?
Actually they safe you money because elictricity is cheaper than fuel… :)
Not when you factor in resale value.
So are people that think this way………..
Climate change???😂😂😂
It’s not about that. It’s about technological dominance.
believe in God; someone told me about it.
don't believe in science; I refuse to be inconvenienced.
Billitheimmature is just looking forward to he tens of millions of climate refugees?
Both climate change and technological dominance
They are very bad for the environment too and only people making a lot of money can afford them
No they’re not. At least not compared to ice’s. If you really want to safe the environment, walk, bike or take public transit…
You're spewing Fox propaganda lies, and most everyone can afford EV's now.
less so than ICE
Keep spreading the fake news 👍
a tesla is cheaper than a corolla, after five years, for an average driver. and it gets way cheaper after that.
The battery boon doesn't matter if no one buys the EVs.
and yet, people are buying EVs today.
@KTPurdy EVs are being purchased. Have you seen Tesla's latest sales numbers? Furthermore better batteries (lighter, faster charging, longer range, etc) means more people will purchase EVs just like humans have done for decades when other technology improves. I remember when a 15" LCD monitor cost 700.00. Now you can purchase a 60" LCD TV for 500.00. EVs will become more mainstream, just like other technology, when manufacturing cost goes down. Seems politization is causing most of the negativity. Electrification is the next logical step for transportation.
EV sales this year are higher than in 2023. Just like sales in 2023 were higher than they were in 2022, when they were higher than in 2021… and so on.
Data won’t bite.
I wonder if there will ever be a year when EVs don’t continue to gain market share…
EVs are the way forward
BATTERIES. Hahahahaha Hahahahaha hahahaha 😂
? Exactly how far behind technologically would you like for the US to be?
It’s military security. Better batteries, better drones.
It’s energy security. Better batteries could mean solar power is all we need.
It’s jobs. EVs will take over, and I would like for the US to still have a thriving automotive industry.
@@SigFigNewton he wants us to go back to the steam engine days 😂
Where is all the materials coming from? How much do the materials cost to recover? What is the cost of tho the environment?
Life cycle emissions are far lower than fossil alternatives
Battery production definitely takes an environmental toll, no doubt. But the alternative, continuing to drill, refine and burn fossil fuels is significantly worse. Battery materials also have the ability to be recycled at a very low environmental cost; not something that's possible for spent fossil fuels.
A typical gas car burns 500 gallons of gasoline a year, over 5000 gallons in its lifetime, weighing about 30,000 pounds, and generating about 100,000 pounds of CO2. (If that seems weird to you, remember that the O2 part of CO2 comes from the air, not from the fuel.) Where does THAT come from?
Now, keep in mind that all the metals in an EV battery are 100% recyclable. And they’re high value and easy to collect when a car is scrapped. So once we have enough to power all the vehicles, we can more or less stop mining and rely on recycling for the metals for new batteries. (We’re getting close to that with steel - 70% of steel in new American products is recycled already.)
A typical gas car burns 500 gallons of gasoline a year, over 5000 gallons in its lifetime, weighing about 30,000 pounds, and generating about 100,000 pounds of CO2. (If that seems weird to you, remember that the O2 part of CO2 comes from the air, not from the fuel.) Where does THAT come from?
Now, keep in mind that all the metals in an EV battery are 100% recyclable. And they’re high value and easy to collect when a car is scrapped. So once we have enough to power all the vehicles, we can more or less stop mining and rely on recycling for the metals for new batteries. (We’re getting close to that with steel - 70% of steel in new American products is recycled already.)
@@davestagner Well said!
Get a better speaker one without a leftist lisp
there is no climate problem
If you’re immune to weather extremes and independent from the economy which will severely suffer, then for you there’s no problem :)
Your ignorance is a problem.
There is, you just have Alzheimer’s.
there isn't if you're dead in 5 years. There is a climate problem for those who come after you.
I think he's being sarcastic...
Oh please electric catd and trucks are 40 percent less efficient then point of use gas. Remember it's the line loss, also more emissions from ev. I still want one but these cars are energy pigs.
EVs are many times more efficient than ICE vehicles.
The emissions are far less.
The loss in transporting the energy to the EV is tiny compared with the immense amount of energy that ICE vehicles waste as heat. That’s the most noticeable visual difference between an EV and an ICE car. The ICE car wastes such an enormous amount of energy to heat that it requires a grille in front to keep the whole machine from overheating.
Inefficient to the point of becoming obsolete just like incandescent light bulbs, which are less efficient in large part because of all the energy lost as heat.
@@SigFigNewtongalavanting the gas all around the countryside by truck then burning it and only extracting the expansion energy, none of the heat. Sounds like your referring to ice cars.