Schulz Reacts: Awkwafina CANCELLED For "Blaccent" | Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh
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As a black women who was picked on in school and still as an adult for talking "white", I appreciated this video. How we talk, is based on various influences. How your parents talk, what media you watch, what you read, how your friends talk...all of this sculpts your "voice".
Im black I went to a mostly white school and I hung out mostly with my art and French teacher because they were the only ones at school who didn't treat me weird. So I kind of talked like old white hippies. I took shit at school for the way I looked and at home for the way I sounded. In the end lots of children and immature adults we'll find ways to put down people who are different so they feel uplifted because it's easier than actually lifting themselves
Exactly, while black culture has been appropriated it is very misguided to just take it out on people who are nothing more than products of that widespread popularization of Black Culture. The woke mob is picking the wrong enemies and wasting time and energy while the real perpetrators just run a bunch of ads on Black History Month and get off Scott free 🙄
I really don't know how this is even a thing. Maybe it's because I'm British, idk.
But seriously who really gives a fuck, sorry about the language. We're all just people, culture, creed, sexuality etc etc. It's all irrelevant.
I wish people would stop complaining and hating about such trivial things.
@Annette Key d d d d
Everybody got picked on for something
I got bullied in high school for what was called "talking like a white person"! Got called an "oreo" on a daily basis!!!! Leave the girl alone! People are always wanting to complain about nothing! It pisses me off how people put so much into others lives instead of focusing on real things!
yha that's me to but i get that from other black people though and its mad annoying like why should i copy all of yall can't i be my own person. The fact i have to copy every stereotype others sees us in on tv just goes to show how clueless people can be specially your own kind. But you know its mad to that others tries to copy others just to fit in and here i thought we are trying to stop the whole racism i mean its bad enough people think if you have black friends or asian friends you can act like that culture and sound like that culture and say their rude slurs not even there own kind says it.
I was called a banana
I also got called Oreo in high school… same pain
In the UK was called a bounty bar. Which is the same.
@@mysticstrikeforce5957 I had just started a new middle school, it was lunch break and I was walking over the the black girl table. They told me to keep walking, that I needed to take my white a$$ to the white girl table. I spent two years sitting at the teacher's table, the only one that would have me. Trauma! Its gatekeeping and its cruel.
As a black girl from New York everyone seems to have a problem with this and make it a huge controversy but actual New Yorkers. We all accept* that depending on region you'll sound different regardless of your skin color.
thank you!
That's the problem! Yall don't check anybody! That's why yall lame as hell! And always been
Stressing the accent purposefully is the point.
Oh God vs oh "gawd."
Get it?
Girl bye. That’s an over-exaggerated blaccent that doesn’t even sound natural. You don’t just develop a blaccent just cause you’re from NY. Just like being from NY doesn’t give you the green light to say the n word (which y’all accept over there for some reason). I swear y’all are a diff breed
@@kaylao.3326 When did she use the N word?
Being a Jersey girl so close to the city it never even registered that someone would say her accent was "black." 🤦🏿♀️She just sounded like someone from queens. Literally everyone sounds the same. I've even picked up some of the city accent from hanging over there too much. 😂😂
No they don't. Actually from Jersey too. And everyone from Queens DOESN'T sound like akwifina. Akwifina doesn't even sound like akwifina ALL the time. She has interviews where she uses her natural speaking accent.
@@elijaharvinger1178 When you sit down for a job interview, you're not using the same language; tone; inflection; pacing that you would when speaking with friends. You might learn to speak proper English growing up, but you can still develop an accent or the ability to code switch to an accent depending on your environment
She's from queens, enough said. This is how she grew up, Andrew is right, what do you want her to sound like? White? Black? Asian? People got too much time on their hands to get offended by something as simple as cultural or environment upbringing. Excellent podcast.
How tf you know
I agreed at first then I just saw her 73 questions with vogue video and there was no hint of a blaccent there. 100% proper- Queens or not it’s just a character that she uses for comedy definitely not her culture, just the environment she was around.
She didn't grow up in a black neighborhood in Queens. She got her "blaccent" from black media just like I got my terrible English accent from UK media. I love their stuff and I imitate their speech for fun sometimes. I assume it's the same with her.
Man stop the cap y’all just lying to defend this bs lol. She doesn’t even sound like people from Queens she sounds like a minstrel show.
She doesn't talk like that all the time though, I think that's the issue. If that's how she speak, then speak like that always.
"Is that her accent?"
"She's from Queens"
*laugh in unison over the ridiculous hate*
They immediately knew that its about where you are from and the speech patterns you hear. lmao i love that moment
but its not her accent ... she only puts on to be funny and it sounds she is trying so hard
@@Chromasophy my sarcasm detector isn't sure on that one.
@@Chromasophy that's her accent. You don't understand cuz you're not from there. People adapt their language as a survival mechanism especially if you're a minority living in the United States around a shit ton of very sensitive white people that want to complain about EVERYTHING. So many people adapt and change their accent depending on their environment. The accent she has around her closest friends is probably her real accent. And you'll never know it cuz you don't know this girl. And that's okay. But keep crying
amen . i ALWAYS have loved these guys views
White people complaining about everything? Loool please
This reminded me of my friend who moved from Seoul, Korea to rural North Alabama when we were 14 years old. Although he spoke virtually no English, he was thrust into a regular eighth-grade classroom to sink or swim. His name was impossible to pronounce. So he was christened Eric instead. There was already another Eric who had moved to the community from Indiana the year before. Having so much in common (both being new kids named Eric in the same class, both playing on the school soccer team and riding the same school bus, it was perhaps inevitable that they would become friends. To differentiate them, our friends referred to the Eric from Korea as Korean Eric, whereas Eric from Indiana was known by his last name. After high school, Korean Eric became my only high school classmate to attend college with me, too. As roommates I was exposed to Korean popular music and food, and I grew to recognize his soft consonants and slightly whiny intonation as distinctive features of his spoken Korean that carried over into English. I still remember when I first heard him say into the telephone, "Hi, this is Eric. I'm sorry to bother you, but I hoped you might be able to help me." I laughed because, although he was enunciating clearly, he spoke slowly. Moreover, he was so apologetic, acting as if he were seeking a favor while discussing something he would have been well within his rights to demand. His way of softening the impact of his words with excessive politeness made me laugh, but I was impressed at how distinctively Southern Korean Eric's telephone voice was. After he hung up and I commended his impressive code switching, he said it had been developed over many years of imitating me. It's been over 30 years since we first became friends. In that time, he became a naturalized citizen, started a family, and now works for the Department of Defense. Even after such major milestones, the moment that he started to feel truly American was when he discovered that anytime his colleagues at the Pentagon wanted to differentiate him from someone else, they all referred to him as Alabama Eric because of his now thoroughly Southern accent and love of collegiate football. It was the first time in his life that he was "othered" in a way that didn't feel quite so "othering."
"iMpOsSibLe to pronounce."
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Woah - loved that "Alabama Eric" story!!! 👏👏👏 I love the southern accent. Sounds polite and gentlemanly from men and sweet and familiar from a woman.
I love Awkwafina. I'm hoping more people are as level headed as you guys. She deserves good things and not this phony woke backlash for nothing.
@MisterGuy you too, my dude.
I had a coworker for years that was a large built black man who literally adapted dozens of speaking / tone codes. With his fellow co-workers he would be jovial and you would hear his creole upbringing his tone and he would use certain words. Around supervisors he sounded like Walter White, around Marines (he is a Marine) he would go into grunt mode. He was fluent in Spanish, French and Mandarin and he would speak with fluent accents.
He could turn it on and off immediately. He was the most requested patrol partner because he could handle anybody from the wealthiest Karen's to the migrant workers running from you to handling fights between Marines and gang members at strip clubs.
Lol I am Haitian we code switched alot lol Nigerian, latino, America, French, Portuguese, blk American, white America, Italian, Indian I have lived in among alllllll of those here communities
Plus most haitians speak like 4 or 5 languages
That sounds exhausting. But codeswitching is very much so a skill, can’t deny that.
A lot of guys will develop this in the military. You get exposed to a lot of people from all around the country. And sometimes even the world. You start becoming a bit of a vocal chameleon if you hang out with a bunch of different groups.
Sounds like someone I want to have over for dinner!
Sounds like a hard life to live... for him. Entertaining for you though.
As soon as Andrew said "She's from Queens" and Aba and Preach made a face and looked at each other, I busted out laughing because I had the SAME exact reaction.
to be fair tho Andrew kinda dodged the question because even tho she's from queens, her regular speaking voice isn't what's being criticised. Danielle Bregoli for exmaple talk like she does all the time, Awkwafina talks in a pretty bland common accent in interviews and monologues, but then uses the 'blaccent' when she's in character. So Aba and Preach probably wanted to ask if she talks like that on the regular.
@@pdxtom you don't care how anyone else speaks because you're focused on how one person speaks and that's all that matters to you?
@@tayamkay yeah, people speak differently in different settings. Code switching is "playing a character."
@@thegtafanboy code switching is what you use to feel comfortable, and most times it’s not on purpose. So I guess she feels comfortable making that money with that accent, instead of in interviews or regular videos. Somehow it’s only relevant when it’s pushing that career. Y’all funny ash
@@tayamkay that’s what code switching is.
As a black kid it is good to see other black people have the same perspective as me on this. I always sounded “too white” so I totally know what it feels like to be told what you should sound like.
Im so glad to see yall come together to do this parle, loving youtube more and more
This is a pretty awesome cross over in the RUclips cinematic universe
It's happened before
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@@into_the_void But this time preach is here
Who's the homeless man in the middle though?
@@TheAustrianPainter87 Dude that's Aba
Nobody is actually offended, this is just about having an excuse to tell somebody what to do
Did you know she doesn’t always talk like that meaning she puts it on
@@SunniMerlotI can’t even pretend to give a damn, I have to pay taxes
@@pr0l0gue well said!
You’re completely wrong. People are offended because she herself says she doesn’t wanna play any roles where she is using a Chinese accent since it’s disrespectful to Asians meanwhile she’s perfectly fine playing black “hood” characters
She hasn’t played black characters
expected to stick around for a few minutes, watched the whole thing. great conversation. the whole world needs to see this
I love how the actual heated moment comes when talking about Haitian food. These are the real conversations we should be having.
I grew up in Queens NY and moved to the south back in 2001 and I literally had to learn to neutralize my accent over the years just because both blacks and whites had a problem with how I sounded. I can't count how many times I heard "you trying to be black", um no I'm a proud racially mixed ethnic Colombian that happened to live in some hood areas in Queens. Irony is, now the old heads that knew back in NY clown me for "sounding white". You just can't beat ignorance...lol. Great to see some smart discourse on this topic.
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I can't take any topic of discussion serious from a guy who refers to black people as "blacks".. That's particular phrase is so very telling.
Proud to see another racially mixed colombian from NYC in the same thought bubble as me 🤷
@@terrancejovan4825 I think it’s telling that you only focused on how he said “blacks” and not “whites.”
@@terrancejovan4825 black people and whites. There are you happy?
Aba's interpretation and the way he articulated it is so on point. This is exactly why we "black" folks get offended. We don't like to be in a box just like anyone else.
If only your comment can have more like, which u know why it’s not🙄🤣, but I certainly will give u hundreds of them💯 or this comment needs to be the pin of fames🎯
Edit: OMG😮, congrats on the 1K likes🤗, thnx to those 1K ppl, y’all ain’t ignorant 😅.
@Duolingo Owl she says black people dont want to be generalised
Spanish dude from Queens. All this fake drama stirring comes from white people. Let's just be real about it. They hate that they're so simple, plain, boring, No seasoning. No adobo. Just blah...
Spanish and Black people actually have culture. We grow up and are encouraged to be ourselves. And we just happen to be very flexible. And they Hate that shit.
@@rafa328 Your comment is ignorant and racist.
YOU are the problem.
black americans don't actually get a box. they were ripped of their box and had to be forced to be what white people wnated, except when they tried to be like white people by "talking white" they were whipped and lynched. so what did they do? they developed their own way of speaking and created a culture from that, and white americans took that from them too then told them "shut up nigger you didn't invent this."
then as time went on, "black culture" became "american culture" then "internet culture" and now that black people are actually allowed to speak out about it without being hanged from trees, they are being told it's "no big deal" because "racism isn't really a thing anymore, y'all just wanna be victims."
how are they not the victims when since their appearance on the continent, they have been stripped of their history and their culture and EVERY chance of creating their own has been met with thievery, murder, and invalidation? the worst part is all of the black people who refuse to acknowledge this reality and essentially invalidate their fellow black people's experiences by disregarding and speaking against them.
every other race of people in America gets to have history and culture except for blacks. the only group as marginalized and oppressed as them are native americans who face the same ridicule and invalidation. both groups are routinely told to shut up and move on from the atrocities.
we won't. no matter how desperately people within our own community want to appease the oppressors, erase the longstanding history of racism, and invalidate our experiences.
I love this conversation… much needed in today’s society. As a Hispanic woman born and raised in New York and moved to different regions in the US, my accent has shifted depending on where I lived and the demographics I associated with, which was everything from black, white and different types of Hispanics. Also the levels of social circles cause us to shift how we interact, at work with professionals yielded a different version than that of speaking to a friend or family member. If people judge this, they’re really not understanding the gift of assimilation and art of survival. Thank you for having this conversation. 🙏🏼
Great points and well rounded conversations.
Calling her out for "talking black" while not being black and not knowing her background is actually the more racist action.
You spitting
Call them out, no one should be jumping down anyone's throat for how they sound. Especially if you don't know them.
These are the same people who are out fighting all injustice.... but they're the only ones I ever hear or see doing the actual injustice they purport to fight against. I thought this whole conversation was a little lame. Schultz and the long haired dude really went reaching with all that other stuff...
It's not racist, it's prejudice... Does no one know things anymore?
@@MrSham3less racism is prejudice based on race. I wouldn't talk about people not knowing things with your lack of knowledge.
*Talking "white" I'm familiar with this , my nickname was Oreo for the longest time. My family is Haitian and they made sure we went to the best schools so we can have the extensive vernacular that they don't have, I am not ashamed of myself. My issue is the fact that an accent is synonymous with intelligence and it's infuriating.*
I can relate, being a Native American and growing up in a white town AND on the reservation I can switch between “Rez Talk” and speaking proper English, yet I was constantly called an Apple by both white and my native people.
I think a large part of it has to do with the "African American Diaspora" from the south to other parts in america which happened between 1930s and 1970s, they took the southern accent with them and segregated communities hold their language and it becomes a staple difference between multiple groups, even tho if you go to the south everyone talks like that regardless of race.
Atleast thats what i think happened i could be very wrong tho
Wow. That’s fucked up. As a lighter skin latina I do get alot: omg how do you speak english so well?? I am glad you do not feel ashamed of yourself. Growing up in new york then puerto rico I see theres phenomenon of being “mixed” or growing up in 2 different places. In puerto rico i had an accent in new york i was noticeably latina. You dont belong in either or and for an 8yr thats super confusing. Luckily not everyone has this limiting belief.
It doesn't have anything to do with speaking "white" or "corrently". The core issue is that you're not African American and therefore aren't going to speak the dialect of the descendants of American slaves because it's not your culture. The same way that Haitians speak Creole, the same way that Jamaicans speak patois is the same way that African Americans, the descendants of the slaves brought to the US, speak AAVE as it's a dialect passed through the generations and therefore can't be "incorrect" as it's an ethnic dialect. The next time someone tells you this, you need to tell.them that you're not an African American and therefore wouldn't have learned AAVE from your parents as a child because it's not your culture. Unfortunately, many African Americans don't realize that other groups of black Americans don't share our culture and have their own.
@@sparklesp9304 i appreciate this comment it was very insightful and helpful, hope others that have grown with the same misconception see it.
Glad you guys have brought this to light. Working in a predominantly white and “woke” field, I was always criticized by the way I spoke when I first started and had to learn to talk “white”. I grew up in a predominately black and Spanish neighborhood and that was part of the culture I grew up with. People aren’t “woke”, they just want you to behave how they think you should.
Gahhh… this was such a cool topic and intelligent convo.. you guys rock!
I’m a Haitian who moved to the U.S. when I was about 8 years old. It’s always bothered me when people say I “talk white”. It’s certainly a product of the folks you’re around. My family is really education-focused so I learned English not in the streets but in School, TV and Books. I was 15 and would practically speak like a lawyer. Black kids would always tease me for it, I would even go as far as trying to change the way I speak in order to blend in but I grew up and figured that we all certainly don’t have to sound the same and that doesn’t make you any more/less smart.
I’m Haitian too and and feel what you said lowkey disrespectful, hood isn’t the only way black ppl speak their is a lot of educated brothers that sound black. (Not white) and educated when they speak like kobe, Denzel, bill cosby, dr umar, Malcom x, Martin Luther king, Kevin samuels, jay z and the list could keep goin so pls stop this ideology
@@LeeDiorTV maybe reread his last sentence
@@dianebaker2192 I did you should read the whole paragraph, where he said he didn’t learn English in the streets like that’s only place black folk be at, and I understand his last sentence
@@LeeDiorTV he explained he didn't learn street lingo. He learned from school and books that usually present English in its proper form. Most of us learn varying versions of English on the streets or at home which is often not proper. Its like living in California my family speaks improper Portuguese so when I took Portuguese classes I was taught proper Portuguese which had vast differences than what my family spoke
@@dianebaker2192 I understand what your saying, but there is black people that speak proper with no street lingo and also don’t sound white, there is this conception that ppl think if u speak proper ppl say you sound white, when they actually do sound white and there is no problem with that but don’t say it’s cause u speak educated they say that
The people trying to “cancel” her are too eager to get up in their feelings over mundane things just to get a little validation and attention.
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Ok..so when Chinese people start insulting Latins...don't come complaining BTW Ukrainian people are being fast tracked fir visas while Latin and Africans are put to the back of the line..there is a caravan of Ukrainian illegal aliens in Tijuana
Ok..when white people stereotypes Latins..back in the 30s and 40s..we don't need no stinking badges..where was your outrage..I didn't see any..Blacks on the other hand we spoke out..even today they call you criminals..even though Hispanics now do the chores Blacks use to do
Yep..and we feel like kicking your racist ass
I am outrage over every stereotype that whites and some jews in Hollywood try to typecast minorities..funny how if you say something about Israel you labeled antisemitic..but the word applies to Israel..Semitic applies to all people on northern Africa..Libya, Egypt, Saudi Arabia,Iraq,Iran,Assyria..Abraham had three wives..Sarah, Hagar and Katurah..each later on became a nation..Hebrew, Christian and Islam..Paul went to Arabia to learn Christianity..read your Bible
"You have to understand that there is an individual on the other side of that." Amen. I know a man who's parents are Chinese but he was raised in Southern Alabama. Pass through south Louisiana and listen to a black man with an Acadian French accent. People need to stop looking for things to be offended by and start looking for things to fix. Good stuff here. Keep it up
This is some high level conversation 👌🏼
I'm tired of my people always claiming stupid shit. We still live in a time where if you are black and speak with proper English, other black people will say you are talking white... Like proper English is reserved for whites only. So it blows my mind when I see stories like that, where someone who ISNT black gets criticized for talking "black". Wtf is "black" when we are talking about vocabulary? What is "white" in the same context? I thought it's about right and wrong. These types of microaggressions, even from our own people is one of the reasons that we will never, ever come together completely. It's kind of pathetic imo. 🤷♂
Like how can our peoples tell anybody else to "talk white" while mocking our own about "talking white" that's legit retarded.
The so called black accent is from when southern blacks moved to be big city’s taking the accent and dominating to make it the so called black accent which wasn’t like that before
The original Southern accent is from Irish and northern English who moved into south of America in large numbers, so it’s talking white terms like of having a crack or crackers which was Irish term
So they are talking Irish mixed Northern English mix accent, same in Jamaica like Ting is Irish
While Barbados speak like they are from Somerset,
Same exact shit happens with the Hispanic community, at least as far as I've gathered. It's extremely frustrating how a culture can basically be crabs in a bucket. Toxic and self harming attitude smh 🤦♂️
Say this all the time!💯
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Asians that learn English around us talk like us, all over the country. One of the coolest cultural phenomenon I've witnessed in my travels
@@Armion2020 little known fact: Filipinos have been in the south, specifically Louisiana since the 1500s. A good number of their decendents still live there (mixed in with the other cultures).
I'm a Filipino that grew up in Australia, you will trip when you hear my accent
@@iamtom13 is it a South African one?
@@epvendetta a lot of white Americans I know have a small amount of Chinese or Filipino ancestry in their dna. Most people don't realize how many ethnic groups were part of our history
@@feifongwong4138 A lot of white Americans have African DNA from mixing with African Americans, and they don’t know it or even care to know it.
Thanks bro, really needed to hear this. I thought I was the only one who had to switch everytime.
The Awkwafina situation just reveals how diverse it is in NY and in particular Queens.
Loved every minute of this!
-"Step up!"
-"Step out!"
Andrew just about died laughing 🤣
I love agree. Enjoyed every minute - we need to see these guys more!
When he said only Caribbean food that’s good is Jamaican I just about stood up
I respect and agree 100% on this segment. I am full Filipino and was raised in Chicago most of my life and only spoke english. I went to the East coast and the South and right away people noticed that I had a mid-west/Chicagoan accent. I don't ever judge someone's accent from any state or country. You be you!!! ♥️
Props to you guys discussing code switching. I unknowingly do it so I can’t judge her for doing it either. Maybe I got it wrong. I accept that. I watched a couple of her movies and this idea never crossed my mind.
All minority groups code switch every across the world
It's crazy we are even having conversations like this and it all boils down to people thinking an accent actually belongs to a certain race. Straight ridiculous
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She’s not doing an accent. She’s doing an exaggeration of a stereo type.
Awkwafina said she refuses to do an Asian accent because it’s a stereotype. Yet, her real speaking voice isn’t blaccent but she speaks in blaccent to stereotype black people.She is a hypocrite. Let a black person make an entire character of asiancent and watch the protests begin.
It’s crazy how words shift things.. belong is the incorrect word, it’s the fact that one is a standard based off our current living arrangement. If u hear hood or ghetto you picture certain things, simple. Even tho those words aren’t connect to any one people place or thing.
@@whisper2284 well black people been hating on us black people for a while. Mfs be racist to me and my family for years so i don’t really care. And because of how easy it is to make fun of asians because of the black people jokes towards asian is popular. Example Dave Chappelle. He’s funny but y’all are capping if you think there’s going to be protest when a black personality pretends to be asian. There will be no protest because most asian don’t care
Lived in ireland when I first learnt how to talk. Moved back to NZ and my family hated the fact that I had an ireland accent and tried to say it wasnt my actual accent. Had to change my accent at a super young age. Now I'm having the same issue in Aus since I've been here for 8 years. My accent switches between irish and kiwi depending on which family I'm around but Australians I know and my family that have been here for years are mad because my accent hasn't changed.
It's my first time watching this channel and meeting most of these guys. What a solid conversation amongst friends. Sharing their backgrounds, similarities and differences while embracing feedback. This is life folks and reminds me of growing up in Scarborough, Toronto, Canada. #foodiebyenvironment #globalpalate #dinnerguest #multicultural
As an Asian who grew up on the east coast and went to school in new york I’ve definitely experienced people telling me I talk “black” when I say certain words. It’s literally we talk in the city
But AAVE is not just words it’s a dialect
Weird how Twitter and social media has made unreasonable but human reactions to certain things acceptable.
Yeah like who tf is even complaining about these things
The "I can't have it, so can't you" mentality is a very normal human thing to have, but it's also completely irrational and stupid and has insane implications if you follow that logic.
@UCksRxJABlYeZ2l2nkxQAX6Q Low key I feel like this whole blaccent label is reinforcing a stereotype that black people speak a certain way when really, Your accent depends on your upbringing not your skin color.
@@Ajaxx47 A bunch of shut-ins that have no lives.
@@Ajaxx47 nobody is actually offended or bothered by this, people just hop on the opportunity to feel like they’re in power for a change. It’s very impotent
What a freaking awesome conversation.
Too much truth here that needs more people to hear it.
“You should satisfy MY feelings”
That sums the whole game up right there!!
Guys this conversation connected so much with me, being a person who grew up speaking 2 languages and living in two different countries, people look at me strangely when I code-switch, but it's just me. I can't change who I am. Great video guys.
I agree with code switching we all do it. However, I think what’s missing from this conversation is that Awkwafina did not grow up in a predominantly black area. All of New York is not predominantly black, the host is being disingenuous. Also, she said it would be offensive to put on a stereotypical Asian accent for movies. So why is not offensive to put on a stereotypical black accent? I’m not for cancelling anyone, we should all be free to be who we are. The sassy black girl trope is inauthentic and was taken on to get roles. I mean it’s smart move to get on in Hollywood but it’s a character and that’s okay. I wish she would just be honest about it…
@@calikeisha365 that part!!
@@calikeisha365 your problem is that you are inherently being stereotypical. You are saying the way she is talking with her "blaccent" IS BLACK PEOPLE SPEAK. The very fact that you think she's trying to imitate another race proves that you think races have to speak certain ways. You honestly hold us back as the human race by thinking that way, "canceling" people or not. You just admitted that you judge people based off of stereotypes
Language is a form of communication, and clear communication is the best form of getting your thoughts understood, so if you hang around people who use certain accents and terms you’ll unconsciously adopt it because you want to be understood, and if you’re speaking that way on a daily basis, it becomes your natural way of talking. People tend to forget that we all intuitively do it and it has nothing to do with trying to be someone else. It’s just a way to connect with those we respect, our community, friends and family.
Damn so many people need to hear this conversation.
The fact you guys are talking about code switching and stuff is great. This is such a great, healthy discussion.
Only in college do people think code switching is this powerful useful term. In the real world everyone does it...all the time
very good conversation. there are a lot of younglings who gonna see this and learn.
@@andrewjackson9948 Exactly.
There is no such thing as code switching.
Adapting to different situations involving different groups of people in order to communicate effectively doesn't make you some race traitor or that you hate your identity 🙄
When multilingual people switch between different foreign languages without even thinking about it. We all speak different vernaculars of English, too. When you're at work you speak a certain way, when you're with your boys another way.
@@giornogiovanna845 That's right, we adapt to every situation. Talk one way with a teacher, another way with parents, cops get a whole different style of language, friends get a much more casual version, and what about all those times a dude gets heckled by his bros after talking all 'mushy' on the phone with his girlfriend, responding 'hey , at least I got one.'
When Mexican-Americans go to Mexico for vacation, they come back speaking, not only better Spanish, but the accent/tone changes a bit too. Same region from where their parents are from, but being in the USA, it does change a bit once they're here.
So there you can see how people really absorb accents around them to some degree to adjust, and if you grow up around it, you're bound to pick it up.
I spent my childhood in México, so I have a slight accent in English. Here, I sound foreign to some, but in Mexico or around anyone from another country who speaks English, they think I sound American.
Muy bien dicho
Cap, unless you spend major time over their and speak it a lot. That's false. They can pretend to sure but nope. Akwafina getting exposed btw
@@CaliMex96 idk about her situation but what this guy is saying it's true.
Even just a few weeks is enough to change your accent back to the one in Mexico vs the one in the US.
@@whyisthisnottyping that's imitation, maybe it's not intentional. And in good faith. But it ain't the same fam
@@whyisthisnottyping Gracias (:
I love this conversation because ... it's a real conversation!!!
I love how these guys call each other out and say obvious trolls and they pause for one second so we can realize the ridiculous amounts of the statements and they all laughed and the conversation continues
I am Mexican and I love the NY accent and the Italian accent. I do them all the time. I do not give a fuck if I'm not Italian. I love everything thing about Italians. This world has gone soft and mad.
Yeah I’m black and I do the cholo accent too guey.
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Im New york Italian i do Mexican accents too its all love brother. I always say were European mexican haha.
However, you're not profiting off it it. That's the difference. I don't think people understand that appropriation is not just taking a culture. It's taking the culture or language and profiting off it.
You mean Americans
i love the middle guy's ability to mediate and calm everyone down
oh aba dont play
That's what he does on his show
He's awesome
Aba is awesome
Aba is a very emotionally grounded person.
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Dante Basco is a perfect example of literally growing up around more dark and brown people because he was into breakdancing and if you literally heard him in his earlier interviews he would talk really Street. And don’t forget the crap he did and the slang he talk when he was voicing Jake Long from American Dragon
Dante basco is cool
Its like asking someone to unlearn everything they learned where they grew up. Which is messed up and just doesn't make sense to cancel someone for being themselves.
"Everything they learned" she grew up in a white part of NY and you can clearly tell the way she talked to get where she is is not natural to her.
@@justme-ew3ri You're wrong, it's funny. Not only do the host of this channel dissagree with you, but so does 90% of NewYork lmao.
@@safaricalamari7613 F**** the host! They are not standard bearersto all things black. And who the hell are you even!?!? 🖕🏽
@@safaricalamari7613 How am I wrong when it’s known information, the hosts didn’t even look in depth at the situation and that’s the problem because they didn’t look at the full thing and the reason why people were upset, it’s not because she talks like if it was genuine it would be ok but she does not talk like that in real life and we know that based on her movies and interviews. So they just jump in make this video and don’t know the full picture and then have these people agreeing to something they only know the half of. But continue on with no critical thinking skills, the hosts mean nothing to me, if you can’t look at something completely before you talk out the side of your neck for hundred of thousands of people and put it on the internet then that’s sad for you.
@@justme-ew3ri TLDR: You're wrong, claiming otherwise doesn't change that. Soz bud.
If you guys did a podcast together once a month, I think everyone would love that, I know I would ❤️👌🏼
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Yeah, this was a really fun, and intelligent discussion. Loved it dudes!
The end of that was a huge left turn. Lmao
I love Awkwafina!! If she offends you it’s not her, it’s you. Figure it out!! I love comedy and I love to be picked on. If you don’t enjoy good natured humor you have something within yourself that needs healing.
I bet you are white..nobody black defending her
I love Awkwafina, but she grew up in Forest Hills Queens, which is only 2% black and a very fluent part of Queens. The accent is an act from a character she created. If you are from NYC you can always get a pass.
She wasn’t in them streets and about that life like other Asians from Queens.
Code switching is non factor. She should talk like she does in Nora from queens. Tf are they talking about. She made money off black culture. Not tryna be an Asian caricature ass bitch
You're gonna get mocked by either white Americans or black Americans for sounding like Jackie Chan or a geisha. And Asians are mocked more by black Americans (you know which ones). Don't believe me? Just rewatch old Showtime at the Apollo! episodes that had Asian performers. Might as well pick up the black accent to avoid getting mocked by them.
What's next? Folks gonna go after beloved comedian Anjelah Johnson ? Her characters included a Vietnamese nail salon employee named Mỹ Linh/Tammy and a rude fast food employee turned music star named Bon Qui Qui.
Yup
@@dodgingdurangos924 by your logic, blacks can walk around in buck-teeth and a coolie saying “herro prease” FoH
*Disclaimer* I actually like Awk and think she is a hell of an actress and funny. *Disclaimer end* What they are talking about is something a lil different than what she is doing. I also think the backlash comes from her statement referring to how she would never do an Asian accent for a movie because she felt it was a minstrel of her people. That is when people lost it. I could care less what she does and how she does it TBH....or anyone for that matter. However, I understand why some people felt a certain way. To be honest, who knows how she actually talks with her friends. To make a long story short … Hurt people see it like this: Studio - "Hey Awkwafina we'd like you to play an Asian person with an "Asian accent". Awk - "No, that's degrading to my people". studio - "OK play an Asian person with an exaggerated "Black (Hood) Accent". Awk - "Cool, where do I sign". That's just my take on it. Like I said, I like her. But, I understand!
Exactly. They don't really understand what she's doing. I like her too but I'm sure in her household growin up that's not how they communicated.
@@rugr82day it’s an exaggerated accent man that’s the clear point and it’s not a queens accent. Every woman in queens doesn’t speak the way she does when she does her little cosplay she’s mimicking a black woman specifically
@@lasharoncarter6161 there’s rappers called “Asian doll” and strippers called “black China” but I have never seen anyone getting mad about it.
This show does nothing but misrepresent clear problems and follow media narratives....they cape for they chosen ones and attack everyone else.... Awkwafina straight up dissed black people by saying she would never do what she does to us to her own people...but somehow nobody ever able to set the record straight on these podcasts...they control their own narratives
@@rugr82day that's not how people from Queens talk.... everyone who is not from NYC or the surrounding areas keeps co-signing that BS because Andrew and 2 Canadians said it .... Andrew is from Staten Island...mfs from NY don't even treat that as a part of the city...he's an outsider talking like he inside
is there such thing as subliminal adaption of an accent without being aware giving that one has been living or has moved to aplace where the accent isnt the new guy's originally? just asking..very curious
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It’s funny when people try to tell others to “stay in their lane” as if they’re the authority on things 🤣
I HATE that phrase with such a passion. It’s basically calling for segregation and forcing people to keep to their own race or environment instead of gaining new experiences and perspectives. It’s close minded and ignorant.
Whenever people say the term, “Stay in your lane” just respond back with “this is a free country and it has multiple lanes I myself can choose to travel on.” I know it sounds a bit corny but these modern people who think like this are wannabe gatekeepers.
@@RalphJr-xp3hp that’s a perfect response. This gatekeeping bullshit needs to stop. Its impossible to sustain progress with that attitude
@@C.U.N.Tahiti true that. 💯💯.
Staying in your lane prevents confusion but like the word read and read, same word but the context changes its meaning.
Bring these dudes back on the show more often !
aba and preach from montreal
The Toronto accent is definitely older than 1 year and is a mashup of a lot of languages but features a Carribean twist. You can look into 4YE who were making t dot goon videos featuring it for years and even further back with thatdudemcfly with the cyattie accent. These videos started in like 2011ish but the accent itself has been around.
Uhm the issue is the boundaries between speaking casual vs professional in the workspace/industry. The transference of intellect is determined by vocabulary when doing business. So is she speaking correctly for the projects she's on or should she be speaking in a more professional tone regardless of accent. Americans pretty much lost their accent during the AOL & WSSH Era... only ppl who still have their accent are Bama FL NC & New England... it's rare to hear a Californian or Texan accent nowadays
It shouldn't even matter where she's from, accents aren't decided by skin color.
Even if the accent is fake it still shouldn't matter. People calling this racist are supporting their own form of segregation
Unless someone Is threatening to take away her job it's not the same. But we did notice she left everything "Black" at the door unless she needs it to make money again. It's not like I want her to be broke or canceled, but if she publically recognized what she did was wrong she would have an ally in me instead she didn't care to adress it and I don't care when her chickens come home to roost.
@@jourdanmoore095 Bruh who tf cares? Let her do what she wants. I’m sure she’s doing just fine without you as an “ally”.
@@jourdanmoore095 seen her in tons of movies, interviews, shows and more. never heard her without it. can you enlighten me on when she’s “left it at the door”?
@MarkedThat what intitlement? Im not asking or demanding anything at all. I dont care what happens to her at all "cancled" or not.
@MarkedThat please dont make assumptions or put words in my mouth.
the problem is that is genuinely NOT how she actually speaks. "she's from Queens" oh well then stop the presses, of course everyone from Queens sounds like a ghetto caricature of a human being right. firstly, she went to the whitest school i've ever seen, lived in the suburbs of the suburbs which was predominantly white with a smaller asian community, never was consistently surrounded by a black community to the extent of picking up on the mannerisms and culture to that extent, let alone the sorry excuse of AAVE that she tries to imitate. AAVE has it's own grammatical rules which she gets so wrong, to any black american we can easily tell she's faking the accent, it's not a surprise none of you get it. the funniest part is as soon as she started gaining critical acclaim and real fame, suddenly her "accent" which she's supposedly had her whole life disappeared and she became a well-spoken asain again. so tell me, why is it ok that non-blacks can make a minstrel of black culture and exploit the community for their own personal gain and throw it all away like it's a nasty personality trait that they want nothing to do with anymore? People laughed at her bc of that accent and ratchet-ass personality, they found her funny bc it's like "oh here's an asian who acts black hahahahaha." meanwhile black people would never claim sis like wtf is she doing. tired of white people and uniformed black people saying this is overblown. non-blacks constantly profit off of black culture and discard it as soon as they make it, yet wouldn't have a black friend to point to even if you held a gun to their head
I 100% agree with you. At first I gave her a pass because I figured she was from queens and that's probably how they all speak. However, she lied when she said she grew up around a bunch of black people. She went to a predominantly white school and she lived in the suburbs. You can also tell that it's a fake accent and it's not genuine. Then when she suddenly gets some fame that accent is mysteriously gone.
The other thing I hate is the double standards. It's the same thing with features that are seen as ugly on some people but cute if it's on someone else. The same thing can be said for the accent. It's ghetto for certain people and cute for others. The same can be said for people who complain about people having an accent, but yet you never hear that complaint if that accent so happens to be a European one.
Come on with that small minded mentality. Man I grew up around blacks and they were thugs then so I spoke ghetto, my best friend was white so I also could speak like my best friend and I could also speak shit English like an immigrant just to be able to talk with vietnamese immigrant because that way it was easier to speak to them because their lack of English. We tend to blend with our environment and the way we talk could change over time. U black Americans think its all about u but it aint. The world goes to Asia and loves the culture so they want to experience it e.g the amount of western people go to China to learn kung fu or Thailand to learn from great Thai boxers. Or learn to cook asian food we don't sit there and say they culture vultures. U put a man in the jungle he gona be tarzan so stop with your pettiness and embrace oneness and that your culture is spreading far and wide
Are we going to pretend like people of color don't know what code switching is? Because I'm black and I have a heavily Boston accent cuz I'm from Massachusetts when I go to certain places down south my accident is not existent I don't have a Southern accent but it's non-existent growing up I was an Oreo cuz I've lived from Boston all the way down the East Coast. And you know who has the most issues with people code switching is black people. Like we don't do it we do it people do it everyone does it. It's one thing to have an accent from where you're from it's not uncommon to drop your accent even though you're from an area when you're at work around friends or in other situations I'm fluent in French when I speak French you can't hear my boss and accent what I'm at work you can't hear my accent and I'm from Boston like it's super heavy like no one can hear when I'm at work if I'm with my family or if I'm angry you'll hear it. She has an accent like when I first saw her like when she was like not making no money or popping her acting was heavy but when you make money and you start becoming more professional and you want to make more money going forward it's not uncommon for her to code switch and speak with people call more proper. And that's not really a girl it's more so the fact that people treat you with less respect when you have accents from certain areas or hoods they give you less money they expect less out of you they treat you with less like dignity. And I think it's hilarious that as black people we code switch all the time we know we have to I know about walking I feel like I'm from my part of the hood they going to look at me like I'm crazy so I have to speak like my name is Rebecca and we going to let it shake. But when other people of color do this and they happen to be from areas that happened to have either black influence or they're just from the hood. Somehow they can't both be both they can't be both but we can be both. And then on the flip side we expect people to allow us to be both because we have to but when our people happen to not be both maybe they are only proper speaking or they only are the hood then there's a problem. We make so many rules that we can't even keep up with the hypocrisy of it all she has an accent she knows how the code switch which is normal people of color because we code switch that you trying to ensure that white people don't treat you differently. And I feel like as a black person black people should understand that because I know I could switch at least five times today just at work. Why are we pretending like this is not a thing? And why are we pretending like people in Queens also don't talk like how she talks cuz my aunt sounds exactly like her and she ain't never left Queens ain't never going to leave Queens will die in Queens at this point cuz that's where she from and that's where she was born and that's where she going to stay. There are people who talk like her in Queens some do some don't it really just depends who you talk to in Queens but they exist. I just feel like the fact that when you hear her interviews she has more proper tone doesn't change the fact that like when you first you see her back in the day in interviews when she was like trying to make it yeah there was no code switching all the way it was still accent there.
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That went 0 to 100 real quick the moment you dissed Cuban food lol
I'm a Quebecor and I moved to Ontario when I was younger and I almost instantly changed how I spoke french in school because people weren't used to the quebec accent and I was being left out. So I think it's normal to change your accent to an extent to fit in socially
From what I originally saw on the discourse of this situation it wasn't that she was being cancelled for having a blaccent, it was that she dropped it and therefor she was either faking/over-exaggerating an accent she might not actually have.
I feel this can come across as a caricature of what she thinks black people sound like and it's this particular facet that can be upsetting to a lot of people. It's that now it seems like it's not her natural way of speaking, but she used to get up in her career as the asian from Queens with a blaccent, and the second she's in a higher in station in life, all of a sudden she remembered what she sounded like. That's not normally what happens when someone has a naturally occurring accent.
I honestly thought her accent was a product of her environment like you guys are describing, and if people are cancelling her for that then I definitely don't agree with those people. When I thought that's just what she sounded like and I originally defended her too. Then I realized in the Shang-Chi movie and her interviews, it wasn't actually how she talks and it actually really threw me off. I'll even admit I felt a twinge of dissapointment. I even tried to give her the benefit of the doubt that maybe she's just code switching because being black myself, I know that can be necessary depending on the environment.
But It's the lack of consistency, using culture as a tool to get ahead, and then disregarding that culture when you "made it" because to me that comes across that now she looks down on it that's an issue for me. It's that she's distancing herself from her blaccent, if it was natural, or she was faking it which to me are both issues worth being critical of.
Some people might be blowing this situation way out of proportion, as we do on the internet, but I do think this is a valuable discussion to have and good criticism of her that I hope she can grow and reflect on. I still like her a lot and wish her success, I just hope whatever she naturally sounds like, she can feel comfortable enough to just be more of that in the future.
@IWantASnack This was the best way to articulate what happened and you've earned the MVC (Most Valuable Comment) Award 🏆
And yet… no one should give a shit.
She didn't drop it. She moved to L.A and ten years later her accent changed dummy
@@whateverrowsyourboat595 it actually wasn't and the fact you needed someone else to make sense of an idea that is so basic as accent's change over time makes you dumber then him but I digress
This was my take as well. I remember when I first saw her I said to myself “she’s putting on an act”. The way she dressed and carried herself in some of her early work clearly showed me that she’s trying to be “cool” and was using the culture as a costume. It was so cringe worthy that I couldn’t even watch some of her work. Now that she’s been doing more serious roles I don’t find it as off putting, but yea when she started out, she was definitely wearing it like a costume
honestly i’m so glad someone is talking about this rationally. i’m korean and i grew up in a the more southern part of virginia my whole life, before moving to D.C. and i also grew up in georgia, south florida, and i have a weird accent. i’m born in the states not in korea. i “code switch” a lot because i’m a working professional and have mastered the “white voice” but i’ve been called out for having a “blaccent” once and i’m just like… umm. this is how i talk… i have a slight southern accent, i never saw it as “black”.
i grew up with only white and black friends my whole life. majority of my friends in high school were black. i even went to black congregation church! if you grow up in england around british accents, don’t you speak in a british accent? what, you’re supposed to sound “american”? lol i just don’t get the hate.
idk anything about what awkwafina did besides having an accent from QUEENS like… cmon bruh. she’s from QUEENS. i mean does she go around saying the N word or something? i don’t get what were mad about. it’s also kinda fucked up to call any type of slang or “ghetto” sounding accent as Black. What people are referring to are regional east coast and southern accents, NOT BLACK.
if we’re trying to cancel someone for using blaccent correctly, that would be like Iggy Azalea lmao. but i’m just tired of having to sound white because having a southern twang automatically means i’m “trying to sound black” 🙄 (and yes, i grew up with hip hop culture and music so that’s part of the influence as well.)
I’m bummed, I was looking forward to the new season
As a Boricua I could always vibe with everyone. I moved around a lot as a kid, so I had to adapt, it wasn't appropriation, it was adapting. Only issues I had was when other Latinos found out I didn't speak Spanish, then I got side eyes and shit. That shit sucked. Everyone just wants to fit in at the end of the day.
She's not adapting tho. She's playing a character to gain fame. There's a difference.
I never understood why Latinos give each other hell for not speaking Spanish. Isn’t that the language of the colonizer?
@@Juspeachy13 just like Americans speak english
A ny accent and speaking in AAVe are two different things. She’s also from the richest part of queens where black and Latinx barely live in
I feel this in many levels bro. Grew up in pacific and been here in the south a good while. I’ve adapted to just about all the accents around me but I’m still trying to nail down an accent even tho us boricuas are basically the Americans of Hispanics.
As a Torontonian, thank you Aba for saying we’ve been talking like this because we have, for years. No one in Toronto sounded like they were from New York, most Canadians like to separate themselves from Americans. Because Drake put Toronto more on the map, the accent has become well-known. Most black Torontonians come from the Caribbean so it’s a Canadian/Caribbean hybrid accent.
I have a question! Why are these Torontonian's/Canadian's allowed to say the n word?
Fuck Toronto
Quit cappin 🧢🧢
@@evenstephens80085 because there over 100,000 black people living here maybe?
You make it sound like Americans are a different species 😂.
Wait, we can get cancelled for talking how we feel and for expressing where and how we grew up, but it's perfectly fine to express whatever gender we'd like and totally misappropriate experiences that we ourselves can't have? Wtf kind of backwards logic is this?
This was a fucking awesome podcast big ups
This is exactly why I am afraid of cancel culture. It can easily be abused. No one should have the power to take away your job behind a keyboard. Cancel culture is for people who aren't living in the real world. They expect the world to be some perfect place and don't want to live through pain. Pain makes you grow.
yep and at the end of the day if people really think about it it doesn't really effect everyone i mean i got to the point where i took a break from online well for me youtube doesn't count but other things though and it really refresh my world and i got to go out more and enjoy life. All of this stuff i just laugh at it and be gone with my days.
Cancel culture is the stupidest thing ever.. People supporting any kind of cancel culture just needs to sit down and get reality check and read some something about human behavior
Such a dumb mentality might as well cancel trans for “female accent” or cancel a black guy who has “white talk” what’s America if you can’t freely express oneself especially a country with a giant mix of cultures. It’s basically creating a place of staying in your box of stereotypes rooted in some bullshit.
Read the full story about this, she pointed out that she didn't have any Black or Latino friends around her, and that she copied her mannerisms from hip-hop music and media lol
that's right. bring back blackface right?
I knew there was a reason I liked her. She’s from around my way. Ok, this totally explains her personality. People are trying to force a stereotype on her which is not cool.
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It feels good to see a Haitian guy on this show. I would’ve never watched this because of the shit they say about y’all style of comedy but I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation.
insightful.
She hasn't really been canceled. I believe she was nominated for an NAACP award.
This needs more love.
NAACP will give anyone popular nonblack an award to promote the award show. that doesn't mean every black person is cool with Awkwafina.
Of course she hasn't. She's not white.
@@eEmm1 Eminem hasn't been canceled either and he's white. ijs
@@LoganCharlesII well, Eminem is a rapper though. If Em started pissing off the establishment, they'll probably target him as well, just like Rogan. Thing is it only works with white ppl though.
I love how everything devolved into chaos when food was brought up and (figurative) hands were thrown.
The problem with her is that isn't hey accent we have heard her turn it off and in the same breath say she won't do a minstrel Asian accent yet that is exactly what she is doing with ablaccent
I've been trying to articulate this for a while. Thanks for hashing this out. Hopefully more people see this and will cut people slack for being themselves.
Being an asian-american born in the US, there are a couple things that really irk me about America's perception of Asians (in particular east asians). Can't even count how many times people are shocked I don't have an accent and sound just like any other american. Second, one of the most common questions I get is "Where are you from?". Third and most frustrating, not all asians are chinese.. you don't understand how much us non-chinese asians hate being called chinese.
Don't forget Awkwafina also said this: ""I refuse to do [Asian] accents," Awkwafina said when asked about what roles she refused to take.I'm not OK with someone writing the Asian experience for an Asian character," she went on to explain. "I make it very clear, I don't ever go out for auditions where I feel like I'm making a minstrel out of our people."
Of course you have an accent, just like theirs, what's so earth shattering about that, lol. Just pray for some people, too much of their skewed information comes from fiction in film. Sometimes your accent doesn't even matter, they may still ask questions. Stay strong.
@@malimal4972 exactly brother and that is exactly my problem with her. She will mock black people and our accents to get ahead yet she will not do the same for her own Asian people out of respect for them. Clearly she has no respect for us hence her act
Why is "where are you from" offensive? It's just someone showing interest. I've Scandinavian descent, and I've had Hispanics ask me "where are you from" while they also know I'm born and raised in America. Also, I lived in an Asia for 5 years. Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, I can't tell you the amount of times people asked me where I'm from. Never once did I find it to be a problem. I was actually glad they are taking a genuine interest.
@@shane7051 showing interest is not the problem, the problem is that they are assuming I was born in asia just because im asian
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Grouping vs. individuality - he nailed it .. the “issues” that people are hung up on, in the grand scheme of things, are actually part of the problem, and not the problem itself .. .. we (as human beings) need to stop finding things to divide ourselves and marginalize each other, and start finding commonalities and unify .. boxes and labels are completely messed up, and societal fabrications - they do not exist naturally
I think the questions around her "blaccent" is being blurred. I think initially the question was just about if she was using it specifically and deliberately to profit off of the depiction of the stereotype. Truthfully I don't think she was trying to be malicious or even consciously exploitative. As a comedian, she understood that in performative setting, she was getting a good reactions. She's a very young woman trying to make it in the industry. There's a difference between calling her on it and making her aware vs just dragging her mercilessly without any understanding or opportunity for her to express where she was coming from.
That’s the same excuse all the moon black people use when they profit from a modern form of blackface. When I talk like that, I’m seen as ghetto. When she does it, she makes a career off it.
@@SynFlowers please you could say this about anything. to stand out in this industry you have to be different
@@SynFlowers you do a disservice to black people though when you only attach certain accents to our people and by saying she's playing modern day black face that means you only accustomed to that accent from being in the hood and being that parts of those areas to black people but In actuality people of all colors stay there. And that does no service to us as a whole because rather than telling the root of the problem you just perpetuate the problem by being mad at someone who's actually from that area who actually naturally has that accent and who when she tried to make it in the industry and downplayed and be more professional you know try to get in and make her footing in the door doing what many black people do as well many people of color do code switch. She found out when people found out she naturally had this accent she's actually from this part of New York you know just how she sound. They actually wanted her for those parts of her. I can't hold someone accountable for them being who they are and people giving them more for that just being their background. That just is what happened and that is a small detail to the major problem that's here. When you only attach one kind of sound to a people you do a disservice to those people and to anyone else who naturally and genuinely authentically are part of that area or that thing. I could see if she was actively black fishing and doing modern day black face but she's not she just happens to be from somewhere where she has the accent she grew up in this area where that is common and it's the normal that people talk and people just happen to like her because of that and she's cool so I get it. But for black people it does disservice for us to then want to call her using a blaccent as we're calling it because then that implies that black people who don't sound like that in that area black people who would probably never talk like that naturally don't engage in Black culture behaviors and with that justification you negate or erase certain black people in that same way yes I'm sure if you or I said those words someone might call usghetto but they call her ghetto too. But that's the thing being ghetto isn't only a black thing you can sound ghetto in any color and when we keep acquainting the fact that we would have said it you sound like she can't that perpetuates the problem more. It'd be one thing for aiming at the root of the problem which is putting black people in a box and then typecasting us and making it so around stereotypes that's the box and group we should be trying to attack. That's the problem people like aquafina who just happened to be born and raised in an area that's predominantly has more so black people and grew up talking and around black people and in the area where that's the normal accent yeah she's not the problem so long as she's respectful and so far she's been respectful the problem is the actual societal stereotypes of what people deem as black and not black because of her being honest the way I grew up naturally talking being from Boston would be considered not black or at least not black enough and that's VIa black people cuz the white ppl and Asian people never had a problem with my accent you know who does black people n wonder why because we have this stereotype in our heads as well what we think is Black culture and Black culture so different depending where we're from but I feel like we forget that there are also other people of color who are part of those areas who also experience and mix their cultures and I feel like until we actually hit through the problem of stop putting what is Black culture in America in one box and assuming that only black people are in the hood that only black people can speak you know ghetto ain't going to lie to you ghetto can be fun n ain't no problem with that. We're going to keep getting this conversation we should be hitting the root of the problem the root of the problem is assuming certain things are black only don't get me wrong some are black only but accents and I'm not talking about like certain words you know in this case their specifically talking about her accent her accents from her area that is not black that is just her area where she's from New York and since she's from that area and that hood I ain't trying to tell if she can't talk like that. She's from there she got more credit to talk like that than I do and I'm chocolate as they come. 🤷🏿♀️🤣😂🙄🤣q if I can't get mad at Nikki Minaj for talking having her accent sometimes even though we all know that she can drop it. That's so heavenly speaking at sometimes I can't get mad at someone else being for another part of New York speaking in an accident of her hood and occasionally fluffing it up because actors and actresses from other countries do the same thing he just over doesn't when he plays a British character sometimes so if you have a car doesn't she plays a Spanish character and she's from Colombia like if you're from an area and you have an accent I don't think it's weird to drum it up when you're doing something I feel like the problem is when people assume your accent is black only that is the problem don't get me wrong a certain words and certain slang I'm sure the only black people say. But in her case she's not doing that she's just talking in the accent from the air she's from so in this case it's very tiny on the scale of like how big of an issue is it?
@@SynFlowers The video addressed that. It's possible that she profits from it bc "she's Asian, so it's funnier" but without purposeful malicious intent. She could just speak like where she grew up in, & then grow in popularity bc that's what masses find appealing, sadly.
Doesn't mean she's harming anyone or that she's doing blackface. From what I've seen from her, as someone who knows celebrities who maliciously profit off blaccents, she feels authentic, like that's how she speaks 24/7. I think we should criticise the masses' hypocrisy instead of hating Akwafina for what can possibly be something she can't change.
So why not speak using a stereotypical Asian accent? She's on record saying that would be offensive. However her narcissism allows her to offend African Americans?!
Margaret Cho built her career making Asian culture and Asian accents a caricature, so why can't Awkwafina?
It'd be different if she poked fun at Asian, white and African American accents but to focus on African Americans then claim its because she's from Queens, not to mention a part of Queens where very few African Americans, Latinos, Chicanos and Southeast Asians are from is questionable.
This is because social justice is about revenge instead of justice.
Yup!
Revenge for what? Im so lost lol
To be fair "justice" for society as a whole is mostly if not entirely about punishment and revenge rather than criminal harm reduction and justice 🤷🏿♀️as they say: an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind
@@sandrallewellyn2632 No it doesn't. It leaves a lot of people with at least one good eye. :)
Bruh! You hit the nail lol TY
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I got into a lot of fights growing up in NY because i was light-skinned with a cruzan accent. Even now if i let it slip out around certain folks i get strange looks. Not to mention the millions of times people try to check my grammar or vocabulary online.
so logical and facts, common sense. this guy is really great at breaking it down.
lol, these guys didn't do any research whatsoever. She grew up in a predominantly white neighborhood and doesn't speak with a blaccent during interviews - only in movies/shows and her failed music career.
This was such a productive and solid conversation. Thank you!
Super important conversation here
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Love y’all for this. People doing the most and to get to a up and coming artist and actress. It’s ridiculous
Def loved the perspective I gained from this. Don’t really care, I did think it was corny, BUT after listening to different POVs and hearing different examples in the same vein I can honestly say my mind has been changed. They made some seriously valid points.
@@PhillipTTruong you just wasted my time with this stupid ass rebuttal. Here’s your 🍪 bro 😂😂😂