When the target is building a bunch of shields to counter arty... "I shall beat the Prophet's shield like a drum. By the time the barrier falls he will beg for mercy..."
you probably dont give a shit but if you're stoned like me atm you can stream pretty much all of the latest series on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my brother these days :)
Lol the frustration, amazement, and realization is so real in the voices of your friends.. they knew it was over soon as the first large volley came through
I do the same thing on battlefield 4... Everyone discounts range on hardcore servers... While I'm parked in a buggy with a 50 tearing into the enemy teams spawn by arcing rounds over a hill...
@@crimsonlanceman7882 Yea they were on consoles, Don't get me wrong thinking back on it now I can't believe i played with a controller but I guess it wasn't as bad as it seems
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Does nobody that plays this game understand the importance of mass conversion? You can have a self sustaining economy with the cybran with just energy. Start with 5 research and the rest into power generators
If it's a small map, if you go straight for mass conversion you will be rushed and killed before you even get to the conversion. If it is a large 4v4 map, everyone uses it.
@@11darklight11 Me and my brother use mass conversion exclusive economies. We sadly play on console, so we don't get a lot of the units and structures pc does. Glitches are also rampant on the console, glitches so bad it's like using cheats for infinite resources. Regardless of this my brother is still #1 in the world, using mass conversion centric gameplay
@@MrJonnybgood619 He might be number one, but it's a game of rock, paper, scissors. That strategy might be strong, but if you use it every game you become predictable to another player.
@@MrJonnybgood619 Well, that's the thing. You have commented PC gameplay, and my reply to you is based on my pc experience. And the point still stands that players do use mass conversion.
it was the nuke launchers that killed him in the end. they have thier own set of artillery built into them. they are also the most piercing artillery in the game which is why he died so fast even though he was hunkered.
my friend had 15 distruptor stations in a row with engineering towers and i had 9 long range and 5 distruptor stations and the enimes never built sheilds they just built artillery one of them texted me and said oh shit...
There is really no good way to retaliate against artillery on this type of map. Sure you can go air, but a whole unit cap can be wiped out if your defenses are good enough. I play as the UEF and use all of my buildings as a defense against every attack, but shield generators are weak AF. The amount of artillery like this guy had is enough to rip through practically anything you have coming to counter attack with or your set up defenses. There's practically no way to do it, unless you have a navy which is mobile artillery and fire nearly as fast. You can use counter artillery against the one person, but that will bring you to a standstill. Nukes work if you have enough to punch through a defense, but they cost a shiz load.
Well some people know how to make it work these people are 'pro rushers' and they are VERY pro they are competent even late game as they usually build far spread out bases few nuke def and are very hard to kill late game as they build massive land experimental armies or air on occasion... Sadly these people in the video are not very pro and kind of suck I agree.
+PancakesThat DieWithValor Once I had 40 disruptor stations and my friend survived them all until I started using their disable ability. He had an ungodly amount of shields.
Experimentals do have loads of health, and certain ones dish out loads of damage, but they take to long to build and typically cost to much to build at a stage such as the 10 minute mark in the video. The artillery dishes out to much damage for even a group of shields to coprehend, and once the shields are gone, your base is gone. It doesn't matter how big your base is, it matters whether or not you can hit back and counter attack just as hard as the one guy that is hitting you. That's the whole point of a RTS game, you are meant to counter and push against the enemy and win, not build a ton of artillery and sit back and watch the enemys scramble around barely survive. If your friend had to build a godly amount of shields, to even stay relevant in the match if it wasn't a 1v1, he should of just quit unless he was managing to hit back. Nukes, navy units and experimentals are the best way to counter artillery. They can't be countered themselves very easily, but are the best choices due to their health, or damage output.
Because 9/10 times there is jack shit to do about it. Even if you spam like 20 shields, any decent amount of artillery will thwart it. Although it is possible to use air to specifically target the artillery, if the enemy has any sense of foresight they will have made preparations against that.
@@spawnof200 he mentioned that the fastest way to stop it is to spam air, but the arty player prolly has AA set up anyways. Learn to read before putting your dumb ideas in
@@spawnof200 ehh doc arty spam is the same wherever you go. For example in RA (specially open ra) even if you have mammoth tanks the mammoths lose out to allied arty if you have like 10 or 12 of them. You lose your infantry pretty much instantly, you lose your light vehicles if they get caught in the fire and even your heavy tanks get wrecked. An even if your light vehicles and tanks somehow survive you still need to go through the rocket troops and their tanks.
@Gerben van Straaten(using RA as an example and counter argument) 1) the allied arty shoots faster than the Soviet arty. Much faster. The v2 has a long reload and only slightly greater range. 2) a common tactic is to hide arty behind a wall of flak and other defenses. Why? Because arty is expensive and is a tier 2 unit in RA. 3) A large group of tanks is not gonna get through a wall of turrets, their tanks, and their AT infantry any time soon. Made only worse by the near constant barrage and output of fire the arty has. 4) this means you literally have to build a bunch of yaks and hope one suicides into the arty. The issue? Each and every yak is twice as expensive as the arty. 5) the problems with arty is balance issues not the players.
I remember I played as cybran and I was in the 3vs 1 map and I rushed rexes and I pushed all 3 back to the furthest base and it was a standstill for like 2 hours I had a constant stream of rexes and those mega things and they had a god awful amount of defense I ended up building more nukes than they could and then were using glitches while I was legit it was a fun time. Also i once played with pickle
@@afarsemon9164 And it took him a year of training -Siri, que rocky balboa music- and courage testing to make that comment after he first saw it. Now he is ready, all will be worth it, his effort, dedication and training will pay off. AND YOU are going to come along and tell him he cant even make the challenge cause of some arbitrary time limit! HOW DARE YOU!
I am like this.... My friend asked me to get this game so i can play with him. It didn't take him long for him to say that he never wants to play with me again.
Some pros: +Artillery is far more expensive so it becomes more of a risk to go all in for one (as such they are rarely seen). +You don't just spam power generators with mass fabricators to fix your mass problems since they are inefficient in Forged Alliance. +Experimentals in FA are formidable. Some cons: -Steeper learning curve, the flux economy may take some getting use to. -Worse pathfinding in FA than SupCom2 but this is manageable.
there should be really cheap ways to get supreme commander forged alliance. or even cheaper methods that work with the faf client as it was made for games and for profit after the official suport stoped, so there is nothing to lose in testing it. :p and it is still the best rts by far. i rarly play it these days, but check in at times just to replay the champagnes or some high player maps. btw the camganes are also a great way to get a grasp of the complexity, which is at start sth new to u, but more better and exciting compared to starcraft etc. also like shown in this supcom 2 aids, u got full zoom out, which alone is a wow with the scale of supreme commander forged alliance. what gyle's supreme commander faf casts on youtube if u wanna see some multiplayer stuff.
when ever i play this map i make rush to make a 3-4 stack wall of turrets put them under shields then build about 3 times as much artillery as Andros made and i just let them fire wildly at what ever they want until i get bored
why thank you and i have a question I have sc 2 for PC but I haven't done multiplayer are glitches used or not(in xbox you can barely last 2-5 minutes without glitches
When the game first launched, you had to have the mass reserves before you could queue up, but everyone complained it was BS and totally different to Sup Comm 1 (and Total Annihilation) that they changed it back to the 'old' queue system which is way better meaning you can do what you said.
I almost forgot about this game, now i miss playing it. I made an army of walking ships, my friends got confused about why i did it. I did it because i found it funny.
it's true supcom 2 is watered down relative to it's previous games, but it was intended to bring in gamers who like short games, it was intended to be more arcade like. the games are connected but they shouldn't be compared
I have done this before on the 360 version. I forced my opponents to build up to the unit cap in shields I had that much. I loved Cybran in that game, hard to learn awesome once you do though
When the target is building a bunch of shields to counter arty...
"I shall beat the Prophet's shield like a drum. By the time the barrier falls he will beg for mercy..."
Shipmaster they outnumber us three to one!"
I see what you did there
Deven Black All cruisers fire at will, burn their mongrel hides
you probably dont give a shit but if you're stoned like me atm you can stream pretty much all of the latest series on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my brother these days :)
@Forrest Lyric Definitely, I have been using InstaFlixxer for years myself :D
“That isn’t artillery”
*looks down to title and back to video*
“Aight”
Mer
There's a reason artillery is king of the battlefield
TripleViktor lol. Where are you stationed fort sill?🤨😂
Let me guess. Ordnance Corps?
Infantry leads the way boii
What i've heard was that the tank is the king of the battle, the infantry are the back bone of every army and artillery is the iron rain.
Technically true because in chess the king is the 2nd least mobile piece and it the thing the entire enemy army targets
Someone graduated from the Imperial Guard school of combat...
I see, another man of culture
Lol the frustration, amazement, and realization is so real in the voices of your friends.. they knew it was over soon as the first large volley came through
"That's not a bad strategy!"
"I like that strategy!"
You can see his eyes and mind light up! lol
Artillery only, works everytime
This is me playing every RTS game.. I have bad turtle habits :(. But then again my preferred playstyle is long range combat and super weapons.
I do the same thing on battlefield 4... Everyone discounts range on hardcore servers... While I'm parked in a buggy with a 50 tearing into the enemy teams spawn by arcing rounds over a hill...
Did that with zuni rockets and OML is it broken if you know how to carpet areas for infantry or snipe vehicles sitting in spawn.
AAs will shoot at jump jetting commanders, he jump jetted to that location and they just continued to fire at the landed commander.
seriously ? looooool !
XD wow. Unintentionally genius to place AA there then :D
Just the definition of *“SURPRESSING
FIIIIIIIIIIRE”*
You can't spell "slaughter" without "laughter"
This is good
Bel-Shamharoth You can't spell "nutrition" without "nut".
Tommy Gun bitch i put the FUN in FUNERAL.
CamOrigamiandmore Now you're thinking
Tommy Gun thank you. I am an edgy 15 year old so I try.
watching this game brings back so many memories from the 360 days
you played a strategy game on an xbox???
What the f
@@crimsonlanceman7882 Yea they were on consoles, Don't get me wrong thinking back on it now I can't believe i played with a controller but I guess it wasn't as bad as it seems
Same, sadly multiplayer was dead lol
@@crimsonlanceman7882 it and kanes wrath are like the only ones on console, the unit limit is 200 and seeing this it’s fuckin insane
"Offense is the best defense."
I now completely believe this, unrelenting fire kills everything.
"that isn't artillery" - directly after 2 artillery shots.
"i dont wanna give away my position" bruh the map is a big circle. literally they just walk in a line to follow you
This is why my friends hate me when I play with cybrans...
And when we're on naval maps they just disconnect XD
Black Panzer same
Guillian J. Yo Gillian what do u play on
the great cybran land turtle migrating watch as the lay waste to all in front of them
watched this bout 5 times, never gets old
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Fucking finally, someone that plays supreme commander 2, and is actually funny... Instant subscribe lol
Thanks man!
10:42 28 minutes in, first time building air defense THIS BUGS ME SO MUCH.
You did not build enough artillery
Artillery is the King of Battle for a reason lol, :D I serve as a Artillery Cannon Crew Member :D this made my day
Does nobody that plays this game understand the importance of mass conversion? You can have a self sustaining economy with the cybran with just energy. Start with 5 research and the rest into power generators
If it's a small map, if you go straight for mass conversion you will be rushed and killed before you even get to the conversion.
If it is a large 4v4 map, everyone uses it.
@@11darklight11 Me and my brother use mass conversion exclusive economies. We sadly play on console, so we don't get a lot of the units and structures pc does. Glitches are also rampant on the console, glitches so bad it's like using cheats for infinite resources. Regardless of this my brother is still #1 in the world, using mass conversion centric gameplay
@@MrJonnybgood619 He might be number one, but it's a game of rock, paper, scissors. That strategy might be strong, but if you use it every game you become predictable to another player.
@@jordantyo7839 you'd think so but no, adaptability is key early research is massively important
@@MrJonnybgood619 Well, that's the thing. You have commented PC gameplay, and my reply to you is based on my pc experience. And the point still stands that players do use mass conversion.
Andros: how do I get past his shield....
Me: lol you won’t get through it
Also andros: **I’m gonna hit it till it dies**
I love humans!!!!! Loved how they plotted to take out the AI first 😂😂
That's how you lose 2 friends
THIS GAME IS WAY TO UNDERATED
"Do you want me to just end it?" this one always hurts. Jeeeeeesus Andros, with friends like you who needs enemies.
it was the nuke launchers that killed him in the end. they have thier own set of artillery built into them. they are also the most piercing artillery in the game which is why he died so fast even though he was hunkered.
my friend had 15 distruptor stations in a row with engineering towers and i had 9 long range and 5 distruptor stations and the enimes never built sheilds they just built artillery one of them texted me and said oh shit...
Would be hilarious to see you build like a bajillion nukes and fire them all at once.
And this is exactly why artillery and cybran is OP, and keep in mind thats only like 14 imagine 30, i am now subbed
In Soviet army, there was a "proverb": "Sure, the infantry is the "queen of the fields", but artillery is a king. And what king does with a queen?"
This is what you get if you dont know how to play it. No single air unit detected.
There is really no good way to retaliate against artillery on this type of map. Sure you can go air, but a whole unit cap can be wiped out if your defenses are good enough. I play as the UEF and use all of my buildings as a defense against every attack, but shield generators are weak AF. The amount of artillery like this guy had is enough to rip through practically anything you have coming to counter attack with or your set up defenses. There's practically no way to do it, unless you have a navy which is mobile artillery and fire nearly as fast. You can use counter artillery against the one person, but that will bring you to a standstill. Nukes work if you have enough to punch through a defense, but they cost a shiz load.
Well some people know how to make it work these people are 'pro rushers' and they are VERY pro they are competent even late game as they usually build far spread out bases few nuke def and are very hard to kill late game as they build massive land experimental armies or air on occasion... Sadly these people in the video are not very pro and kind of suck I agree.
+PancakesThat DieWithValor Once I had 40 disruptor stations and my friend survived them all until I started using their disable ability. He had an ungodly amount of shields.
Experimentals do have loads of health, and certain ones dish out loads of damage, but they take to long to build and typically cost to much to build at a stage such as the 10 minute mark in the video. The artillery dishes out to much damage for even a group of shields to coprehend, and once the shields are gone, your base is gone. It doesn't matter how big your base is, it matters whether or not you can hit back and counter attack just as hard as the one guy that is hitting you. That's the whole point of a RTS game, you are meant to counter and push against the enemy and win, not build a ton of artillery and sit back and watch the enemys scramble around barely survive. If your friend had to build a godly amount of shields, to even stay relevant in the match if it wasn't a 1v1, he should of just quit unless he was managing to hit back. Nukes, navy units and experimentals are the best way to counter artillery. They can't be countered themselves very easily, but are the best choices due to their health, or damage output.
*comprehend
Jesus people who get salty because they can’t defend against artillery really do my head in
Because 9/10 times there is jack shit to do about it. Even if you spam like 20 shields, any decent amount of artillery will thwart it. Although it is possible to use air to specifically target the artillery, if the enemy has any sense of foresight they will have made preparations against that.
@@heimskr2881 thats because you dont defend against arty by defending, you defend against it by attacking.
@@spawnof200 he mentioned that the fastest way to stop it is to spam air, but the arty player prolly has AA set up anyways. Learn to read before putting your dumb ideas in
@@spawnof200 ehh doc arty spam is the same wherever you go.
For example in RA (specially open ra) even if you have mammoth tanks the mammoths lose out to allied arty if you have like 10 or 12 of them.
You lose your infantry pretty much instantly, you lose your light vehicles if they get caught in the fire and even your heavy tanks get wrecked.
An even if your light vehicles and tanks somehow survive you still need to go through the rocket troops and their tanks.
@Gerben van Straaten(using RA as an example and counter argument) 1) the allied arty shoots faster than the Soviet arty. Much faster. The v2 has a long reload and only slightly greater range.
2) a common tactic is to hide arty behind a wall of flak and other defenses. Why? Because arty is expensive and is a tier 2 unit in RA.
3) A large group of tanks is not gonna get through a wall of turrets, their tanks, and their AT infantry any time soon. Made only worse by the near constant barrage and output of fire the arty has.
4) this means you literally have to build a bunch of yaks and hope one suicides into the arty. The issue? Each and every yak is twice as expensive as the arty.
5) the problems with arty is balance issues not the players.
I keep coming back to this video
Artillery is pretty OP. If you set up a solid front line and just arty everywhere else, you're gonna freaking win
Have you heard of/ tried the RVE mod for Supreme Commander 2? It adds a LOT of new stuff to the game, and almost makes it a totally new game
One of the big changes is Shields and Research cost energy to keep active, and higher tier has bigger upkeep/production
It also gives Mavor Elite artillery, if you want to shoot a nuke from a gun
oh, if you're doing this stuff. Build nuke launchers in the shape of lol on the map. Just because
You get a sub. I haven't laughed this much in weeks!
How did you get so much Mass and Energy that fast?!
the good old days
when u used to play this game
I remember I played as cybran and I was in the 3vs 1 map and I rushed rexes and I pushed all 3 back to the furthest base and it was a standstill for like 2 hours I had a constant stream of rexes and those mega things and they had a god awful amount of defense I ended up building more nukes than they could and then were using glitches while I was legit it was a fun time. Also i once played with pickle
Though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death i shall fear no evil unless hellfire has been rained down upon me
Even after years, this is still the best opinion on how to lose your friends hahaha.
Artillery Rush is fun.
I'm loving the looks of the new Starcraft 2 expansion
Reminds me of Total Annihilation, and building clusters of long range plasma batteries.
Man this really brought me back
I’ve watched this video like 5 times but it’s still amazing
jajajajaj you guys are elite playing this game i wouldnt stand a chance aggainst you all jaja
The KING OF BATTLE, Field artillery
I’m not gonna lie I am seeing a lot of tension between these guys in this. I m hoping it’s all in good fun but I really can’t tell
yeah that one guy was super mad over not much, it's like a 20 minute round and he's angry a few minutes in.
@iiYonko Says the dude angrily replying to year old youtube comments lmao
As qouted perfectly by Admiral spire from gothic armada "offence is the defense, defense is the planning of an attack"
Arty always wins. Move up a few engineers, build turrets, shield asap, and a couple nuke defense silos. Once that's all built the arty is easy
Rushing AC-1000 should get rid of this.
Not with the OP as fuck multirole fighters cybran has
*amasses SOUL RIPPERS*
Your friends are so bad at this game.
@Novitrix This comment was made a year ago what's wrong with you
@@afarsemon9164 And it took him a year of training -Siri, que rocky balboa music- and courage testing to make that comment after he first saw it. Now he is ready, all will be worth it, his effort, dedication and training will pay off. AND YOU are going to come along and tell him he cant even make the challenge cause of some arbitrary time limit!
HOW DARE YOU!
The Nubster “ he doesn’t don’t” ok buddy keep calling others autistic
@@Room40_07 😂😂😂 dying
@@divergentevolution8114 hahaha
Most entertaining supcom2 gameplay I've seen
Pulling the ol Supply Depot barrier Starcraft style 🙃😎
I am like this....
My friend asked me to get this game so i can play with him. It didn't take him long for him to say that he never wants to play with me again.
Honestly the Cybran loyalist spam scares me more, but on a map with only one bridge into the bases it may be a bit nullified.
Andros you got a sub i never laughed this hard nearly choked
Absolute legend get rekt lads
Artillery are the gods of war
Hey Andros you should tell them that when jump jetting commander is marked as an air unit... Meaning your anti air can target it.
That was so funny . I love your friends' reactions
Guys go checkout faforever.com for SupCom forged alliance ranked matchmaking and lobby system
I just did a hour long trues with my brother and I had 50 long range cannons and rained hell upon him
I MISS this game so much I wish they made another one
Well, that's doolittolstvo and you got to stop that doolittolstvo.
17:47 At this moment he knew *HE FUCKED UP*
Andros Do U have skype So I can play with U and 1V1 U on supcom 2 or somthing?
16:00 uno reverse card on that nuke lmaoooo
this is why supcom 2 sucks lol
supcom forged alliance was better
im thinking of getting it. in what ways is it better?
Some pros:
+Artillery is far more expensive so it becomes more of a risk to go all in for one (as such they are rarely seen).
+You don't just spam power generators with mass fabricators to fix your mass problems since they are inefficient in Forged Alliance.
+Experimentals in FA are formidable.
Some cons:
-Steeper learning curve, the flux economy may take some getting use to.
-Worse pathfinding in FA than SupCom2 but this is manageable.
Check out Forged Alliance Forever! Community still going strong.
there should be really cheap ways to get supreme commander forged alliance.
or even cheaper methods that work with the faf client as it was made for games and for profit after the official suport stoped, so there is nothing to lose in testing it. :p
and it is still the best rts by far.
i rarly play it these days, but check in at times just to replay the champagnes or some high player maps.
btw the camganes are also a great way to get a grasp of the complexity, which is at start sth new to u, but more better and exciting compared to starcraft etc.
also like shown in this supcom 2 aids, u got full zoom out, which alone is a wow with the scale of supreme commander forged alliance.
what gyle's supreme commander faf casts on youtube if u wanna see some multiplayer stuff.
+cataria www.g2a.com/?___store=englishus
Maaaan, you're such a bully. Poor Munchies.
Клац-клац, мои клешнерукие братья и сестры!
God damn that was enjoyable xD
What a classic
favorite video by far. I just don't understand how you were able to build so many artillery in a short amount of time
Ugh did you look at the game timer? This is PC where gamespeed is changeable.
Whenever someone in a game says ALLAH ACKBAR i just yell out *NANI*
I remember when Andros had like 300 subs and look at him now!
Now, I dont know this game, but that looks like lots of fun.
...And today's forecast, a 70% chance of long-range artillery
Edit: have yall heard of Forged Alliance Forever?
Protip: Enemy building artillery and getting you down? Counter with your own artillery. Works every time no fail I promise.
when ever i play this map i make rush to make a 3-4 stack wall of turrets put them under shields then build about 3 times as much artillery as Andros made and i just let them fire wildly at what ever they want until i get bored
How do you get artillery to stop firing on xbox every time I hit the command to stop firing it keeps firing any help will be appreciated.
wait so in the pc version of this game you can que up as many structures as you want without having enough mass ive never noticed
why thank you and i have a question I have sc 2 for PC but I haven't done multiplayer are glitches used or not(in xbox you can barely last 2-5 minutes without glitches
there are no glitches on PC
didn't know that well thank you
When the game first launched, you had to have the mass reserves before you could queue up, but everyone complained it was BS and totally different to Sup Comm 1 (and Total Annihilation) that they changed it back to the 'old' queue system which is way better meaning you can do what you said.
Savage.
Andros did the thanos snap before it was cool
your friend on the left is super mardy...
a timeless classic
I almost forgot about this game, now i miss playing it.
I made an army of walking ships, my friends got confused about why i did it. I did it because i found it funny.
This strategy is pretty effective in the campaign...
This Artillery are mostly Troll Ever
it's Really Fun Though I really liked it^^
here s the subscribe
Does anyone actually play this game? Forged Alliance Foreeeeeever!
I do. I actually enjoy it, do I enjoy SupCom FA more? yep.
Im suprised you enjoy this game as well. Doesnt it just feel like a watered down version of FAF? What abou tit do you enjoy?
it's true supcom 2 is watered down relative to it's previous games, but it was intended to bring in gamers who like short games, it was intended to be more arcade like. the games are connected but they shouldn't be compared
it gets around 600 players a day and never drops below 300 players
Craig Dirty .Dority You must be high to think this sucks. I know FAF is good but it's hard to play with friends on it.
Andros!!!, I want to play with you guys 😢
So uhh who else comes to watch this to watch them suffer and to see artillery at its best
Need
MOAR
*DAKKA!*
One time I filled my entire column with defenses
not sure if you still play since this was 8 years ago but next time try the loyalty gun rush
I have done this before on the 360 version. I forced my opponents to build up to the unit cap in shields I had that much. I loved Cybran in that game, hard to learn awesome once you do though
Gothic7876 Yo u still play it because I need new opponents on supcom2 on Xbox 360
Hope you found people who are playing legit in the broken version of the game.