I enjoyed the video, I think that some graphics in the background such as the class ability that you're referencing being on screen would help visual learners like me. It can be a bit hard to pay attention without anything to reference for me. Thanks for the vid!
Off the top of my head, the self healing would be incredible between high and low level! Mending as a cantrip early and quickened reconstruct as a level 5 spell! Among the other ridiculous advantages of playing WF!
One of my players made a GOO Warlock / Wild Magic Sorcerer for a homebrew campaign. The combo of Agonizing Blast with Eldritch Blast on a bonus action really lead him to be an excellent ranged DPS. He RP'd it like he couldn't control his Wild Magic so he sought out a Patron to keep it in control.
That's a great idea for RP. I love how the Patron really is the source of so many RP choices. I've seen warlocks that resented their patrons, loved their patrons, and I played a Bladelock whose weapon was his patron. I'm sure there are thousands of people who have played warlocks and each one has a slightly different relationship with his patron.
i rarely take tome because of the initial reasons you mentioned (i typically pick up 1-3 warlock level so the most number of invocations i get are 2-3 with 2 of those typically reserved for agonizing blast and misty visions/repelling blast/lance of lethargy). to be able to get book of ancient secrets i'd have to allocate another invocation slot i might not have space in my build to do so. tome when you get it doesn't provide much. so if one of my reasons for going tome is just the familiar i just take chain instead, especially on caster types. blade for gish types. i also disagree that warlock subclass choice doesn't matter. it does especially if you're looking to run specific combos. i'll share some from some of my own sorlocks; 1. clock 9, celestial 1-celestial is the only choice here as it gives us a way to get a cha based sacred flame for the wall of force + sacred flame combo. though of course if this wasn't a sorlock and it was a soric, any cleric subclass can provide sacred flame (even if it's wis based it doesn't matter with the combo) and i'd probably pick twilight/peace as the subclass for it. 2. fighter 2, divine sorc 7, fathomless 1-fathom is the only pick here as this build focuses on spirit guardians speed lockdown using the halved speed from SG + tentacle of the deep + ray of frost to reduce any enemy's speed from 40 ft to 0, ideally with them on the outer rim of SG. 3. fighter 2, clock sorc 5, hexblade 3-hexblade is the only pick here as this is a casting striker focused on crit fishing upcasted scorching ray and eldritch blast to deal tons of dmg. you also forgot that on the hound of ill omen through a wall/ground strat that they are coming from being unseen so they'd get advantage to attack and can't be attacked/targeted with spells. I'd skip devil's sight on a ranged character. misty visions is superior in each and every way as it's a psuedo-greater invis at will for you and any party members who stay inside your 15 ft bubble.
Thought i'd share my old scorcher build here (pre-MOM) since i was touting scorching ray in your other comments. it's a burst striker crit-fisher that starts of with scorching ray then sustains with EB + magic stone. level 10 theorycraft as usual. "Scorcher" fighter 2, clock sorc 5, hex 3 shadar-kai asi: elven accuracy fighting style: superior technique-ambush metamagic: empower spell, transmute spell invocations: agonizing blast, misty visions pact: chain-imp key spells: scorching ray, eldritch blast, tiny servant, aid, magic stone tactics: pre-combat: trancelock 4 level 3 spells after your long rest. use 3 level 3 slots to create tiny servants before adventuring. standing orders, pick up magic stone and throw at your target. cast aid on yourself and tiny servants/allies. tiny servants hide in your satchel/backpack. while adventuring spam misty visions every 10m using an atmospheric effect appropriate to your environment such as smoke, fog, mist, sandstorm, etc. invite party members inside your misty visions and tell them to break the illusion while adventuring. spam magic stone every 1m. tell imp to be invisible and fly. give imp a bunch of caltrops. 1st turn: misty visions active so stay in place unless enemy is more than 60 ft away. for this scenario we'll assume enemy is 30-45 ft away at start of combat. use ambush as needed. bonus action: hexblade's curse if bbeg is 31-45 ft away, step out of misty visions, hexblade's curse then move back inside misty visions. action: 3rd level scorching ray at super advantage. action surge: 3rd level scorching ray at super advantage free action: drop magic stones inside satchel TS 1-3: throw magic stone at advantage imp: drop caltrops between you and bbeg reaction: shield, absorb elements, counterspell or hellish rebuke as necessary 2nd turn onwards: bonus action: magic stone action: agonizing blast at super advantage free action: drop magic stones inside satchel TS 1-3: throw magic stone at advantage imp: drop caltrops between you and bbeg dmg report: 16d6 + 32 (SR) + 3d6 + 12 (MS)=110.5 average dmg on turn 1 without factoring crits 2d10 + 16 (EB) + 3d6 + 12 (MS)=49.5 average dmg on turn 2 onwards without factoring crits crit report: 24d20 rolls on 19-20 to crit and 6d20 rolls on 20 to crit on turn 1=you'll get 2- 3 crits 6d20 rolls on 19-20 to crit and 6d20 rolls on 20 to crit on turn 2 onwards=you'll get 0-1 crit so yes the build has good accuracy, fights from obscurement with reaction spells if needed, great burst dmg and solid sustained dmg. functions as infiltrator/scout outside of combat.
Nice. I like that fact that you can be a scout type outside of combat too, while still contributing lots of damage. I think a lot of damage casters get really single minded and only try to do one thing. Also, you have a lot of creative ideas that aren't just EB spam forever (like magic stone usage, tiny servants and imps, etc.) I really like a lot of your ideas.
@@thedungeon1578 Thanks! though i'm looking to revise this post-MOM to a version 2.0 so the tiny servants/aid are going away. i want to make bugbear scorcher and i'm leaning towards wild magic (tides of chaos on initiative). as far as trying to do only one thing, in combat yeah i typically have a couple of core tactics i focus on but i don't lean towards being a jack of all trades who can do everything. i find being specialized (being excellent at a couple of things then just above average or lower at others) helps my allies shine better and teamwork is more relevant. same with out of combat and personally why i hate the skill monkey archetype as they try to take over all skill challenges. i like better the idea that the different skill roles are divided among party members as i feel it that gives everyone a chance to shine. like for example, i'm a sorc so generally i should be good as well at the social skills (face) if i take certain skill profs. but i leave that to the other party members.
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Totally forgot about undying and celestial warlocks. Celestial get limited free healing, while Undying gets the spare the dying cantrip, and advantage on disease saving throws. I prefer divine soul sorcerer and if you mix it with Undying, you can really stack on necromancy mage that's not wizard. With some optional healing magic. I aslo like mixing it with celestial for a more potent healer/support.
You should do an update on this. With clockwork soul, custom lineage and the new feats, the optimal sorlock built has changed quite a bit! ... And became a lot stronger!
Hexblade also gives you Hexblades curse, which can be combined with hex! (and later bestow curse) With 8 beams (quicken), you can do 8*(1d10+5+6+1d6)=160 damage every round! cast hold person/monster in the first round, and that goes up to 232 and with advantage from darkness etc, you hit quite reliable Also, if you take repelling blast, the target gets moved 80 ft each round. Most characters can only move 60 ft, and that is when dashing. So you can reliably keep the enemy away from you. Especially if you also use spell sniper/ eldritch spear
@@thedungeon1578 thanks. It always dissapoints me a little to realize, that there is no mechanical reason to play any warlock but the hexblade. They are superior in every situation :/
@@AbyssArray the way we solved it in my group is by making Hex Warrior a pact of the blade feature, instead of a Hexblade feature. That makes Hexblade 1 dips less good, and also makes other subclasses more viable. (Hexblade 1 dips are annoying, because literally every cha class gets twice as good just by taking one level in hexblade. Paladins in particular are a problem) fiend in particular could actually better in meelee now, although hexblades are still the kings of eldritch blasting. lurker of the deep sounds very interesting, but I have not yet played one, so I can't comment on that. I like the thematic flavour of it though. Reminds me of Lovecraft :)
I think you should re-visit this build en lieu of the new feats and spells presented in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything. One of the MAIN attractions of Pact of the Tome for me, is you get 3 cantrips from ANY class list, and they ALL count as warlock cantrips. This means they use Charisma instead of another stat. If you take Divine Soul as your Sorcerer subclass and get access to all the cleric cantrips that way, taking Pact of the Tome can be an excellent way to pick up GEMS such as Thorn Whip, Vicious Mockery, and Primal Savagery, making you the king/queen of cantrip versatility. Hexblade's Curse is NOT a spell, and does NOT take concentration so it WILL stack with Hex, it just takes 2 rounds to get going. Especially at low levels having a bonus 1d6 + 2 AND being able to crit on 19-20 against a big boss is VERY strong. Hexblade also give you access to Medium Armor and Shield proficiency which makes you massively tanky.
Ya, I plan on doing a bunch of videos with all the Tasha's stuff. Some old builds aren't as good because there are better options, but some are better than ever :)
personally, the reason i'd ever take tome would be for another way to align attack/cast stat (cha) without picking hexblade by picking shillelagh as one of the cantrips. i'd round it out by picking up the real gems like guidance and mold earth.
I have a character build for a demigod of fire and death (they are for a demigod campaign) they are a noble background (I wanted them to have a reputation) tiefling (I choose tiefling because everyone starts with a free feat/race feat and tiefling have a feat that improves fire magic) with 17 levels of Devine soul sorcerer (I think that should make sense) 2 levels of fiend warlock (they make some deals with mortals try to solidify their divinity) and 1 level of death cleric (they needed more control over death magic) if it's decided that the campaign will be using the Greek/Roman pantheon it's very safe to say their a child of Hades the end goal of the demigod campaign is to become fully Devine (more or less a miner/lesser God at minimum) and then become/make there own new pantheon
That sounds like a really interesting character concept. I also like the breakdown; 17 levels of sorcerer still gives you 9th level spells, 2 levels of warlock is obviously great, and 1 level of death domain cleric gives you some nice options.
Also if you don't take any offensive spells (including cantrips) from the level of death cleric (except you are required to get a necromancer cantrip) then you can truly take advantage of that 1 level by using it for access to a few not offensive spells mostly utility and shield of Faith and the cantrips are pretty much whatever you choose
The 2 levels of fiend warlock give a sort of healing facter that only is active when you kill something and you can use the warlock spells as if they were normal sorcerer spells and you get more options from warlock
So I was looking up how the extra necromancer cantrip from death cleric works for multiclassing and most people online seem to say that you get to choose what class it's from and that the class you choose determines what stat you use for it
@@christianwhite8877 this is incorrect. the extra death cleric necromancy cantrip will be wis based but you get to choose any necromancy cantrip from any class.
I have decided to play a sorlock in our new campaign. But I have trouble with my spell choices. I will go 18 shadow sorcerer/ 2 hexblade (half elf). I have the feeling, that too many of my spells require concentration. What spells do you recommend for 5+ level? (in particular damage spells)
personally, i wouldn't go for much dmg spells at these levels as the best ones are at lower levels. like for single-target the best ones are magic missile and scorching ray. for aoe, then synaptic static (5th). anyway here's a couple of recommended spells for 5-9: 5th-telekinesis, synaptic static, summon draconic spirit, wall of stone (if campaign takes place indoors or in areas with alot of stone) 6th-mass suggestion, scatter, true seeing (only if your dm likes sending invisible enemies), disintegrate (only if your dm likes sending wall of force casters) 7th-crown of stars, finger of death (only for campaigns where you can kill humanoids freely), plane shift, teleport 8th-demiplane (yeah this is trash level for sorcs. better to use for upcast) 9th-wish, time stop (lets be honest though you're getting wish)
I currently have a level 7 hex-blade warlock. I really want to make him a bit more tanking while maintaining the high damage i already have. I was thinking i could get toughness and then multi class into Divine Sorcerer. this would give me that meta magic for casting more shield/absorb element spells in my level 1 sorc spell slots as well as more Hex spells. But also i was thinking the divine sorcerer could help me stay afloat health wise since ill have things like Healing word because i feel like a few level 1 healing words as my bonus actions on f ew turns later in a fight could really help offset some of that damge and make me tankier since i get the 1d4+5 for every healing word. plus i like the idea of having healing to help out my party. but mostly i want to go sorcer multiclass to give me alot more spell slots for my shield and absorb element spells as well as a few hex if needed. Any thoughts? maybe there is a better more fun way to make this a tanky build?
Actually, I think Sorcerer is a great combo with Hexblade. Paladin is strong too, but Sorcerer will give you better casting options which is quite nice. Also meta magic is really nice.
i'd skip toughness. i think you're looking at this the wrong way. the best way to mitigate dmg is not via being sturdy. its by making sure your enemies are doing nothing then just relying on your defenses for stragglers. this means, yes sorcs are the way to go but this is because you'd want more spells/spell slots and use those spell slots for control such as web, fear, hypnotic pattern, polymorph, banishment, hold, etc. trying to pump defenses means your easy to counter for your DM. if you pump ac, they'll send casters. if you pump saves, they'll send brutes. it's costly to try to pump both. going for control, means regardless of what your enemies are they'll be ineffective. divine sorc is definitely a good pick for death ward, healing, etc.
You can only cast rituals of a level that is equal to or lower than half your warlock level rounded down.So a level 3 warlock will be able to cast lvl 1 rituals If you want to be unrestricted by level requirements, pick feat "ritual caster" but then you are restricted by class.
@@beaug4306 from the PHB: "When you find such a spell, you can add it to the book if the spell’s level is equal to or less than half your warlock level (rounded up) and if you can spare the time to transcribe the spell." Unlike the caster level, this is not dependent on the total character level, but the warlock level
For a melee build make sure you have Shadow Blade spell. My favorite warlock is the Hex Blade you get expanded crit and you can use your cha stat for attacks
Excellent point. Shadow Blade is a spell I should have mentioned specifically because it is so good when upcast, and a great potential source of attacking with advantage. Great comment.
take note, you cant use shadowblade with hex warrior as the shadowblade isn't present (nor lasts) after your long rest hex warrior enchanting. nor is it a pact weapon.
I personally took 3 levels of warlock of the raven queen, and then went full shadow sorc. Agonizing blast and devils sight were just awsome. And i took the pact of the chain and took a sprite, it went perfect with my character. I just, took a step back every fight, Quickened spell Darkness on myself and eldritch blast with advantage AND elven accuracy. Add some great rp for being the face of the party and the edgy character at the same time and you have what i call a grest fucking character :)
i dont understand the need to take devil's sight here. shadow sorc's already see in magical darkness. moreover for a ranged character, darkness+devil's sight is suboptimal. you can get the same effect (obscurement) with misty visions without the need to burn a spell slot/sorc points nor spending your 1st action/bonus action in combat (since misty visions is at will so you can have it setup while adventuring pre-combat).
I made my sorlock 15/5 because i wanted it more melee. The goal of the build was to pump everything into charisma and want to know if this will stack in the long run or did i make it too versatile?
Actually, That sounds like a really good mix too. One thing I love about these two classes is that they synergize so well together, there's really no "wrong" way to do things. Also, never be afraid to try your own mix. Just because me or someone else had one idea in mind, doesn't mean you couldn't take more/less/other class mixes to match more of what you personally wanted or envisioned from your character.
Agreed with dungeon rob here. 15/5 split should work. what i'd only caution on is it's kind of pointless to plan level 20 builds if you know your campaign will end before that. for example at my own table, the campaign typically ends at level 15-16 (we start at level 6-10) so when i theoycraft builds i play for level 10 (the midpoint). if i were to extend that plan, i would go no further than 15-16.
We're starting a new campaign and i'm going to play a little warlock 2 wild sorc 18. everyone says they suck, but I don't care. I think it's going to be fun and I'm not trying to min max. I used to do that and it ruined the game for me.
wild sorcs only suck if the dm doesn't let you surge. with a dm who lets you surge on every cast they are a top 4 sorc subclass and arguably the most underrated sorc. wild sorcs also own the distinction of being the best telekinesis user in the game (along with counterspell/dispel magic user).
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I enjoyed the video, I think that some graphics in the background such as the class ability that you're referencing being on screen would help visual learners like me. It can be a bit hard to pay attention without anything to reference for me. Thanks for the vid!
Good point. I need to get better with some of the video editing, but I can definitely make a stronger effort in this regard.
I like Shadow sorcerer with Great Old One Warlock. Use subtle spell on detect thoughts and read minds in the tavern or at the church.
Hahaha. I love it. That's a great idea. Solid combo too.
I'm making a warforged sorlock and flavoring all his spells to be technology based. He will basically be iron man. Eldritch blast = repulsor blast
Haha. I like it. With Repelling Blast you have ACTUAL repulsors too.
Off the top of my head, the self healing would be incredible between high and low level! Mending as a cantrip early and quickened reconstruct as a level 5 spell! Among the other ridiculous advantages of playing WF!
One of my players made a GOO Warlock / Wild Magic Sorcerer for a homebrew campaign. The combo of Agonizing Blast with Eldritch Blast on a bonus action really lead him to be an excellent ranged DPS. He RP'd it like he couldn't control his Wild Magic so he sought out a Patron to keep it in control.
That's a great idea for RP. I love how the Patron really is the source of so many RP choices. I've seen warlocks that resented their patrons, loved their patrons, and I played a Bladelock whose weapon was his patron. I'm sure there are thousands of people who have played warlocks and each one has a slightly different relationship with his patron.
i rarely take tome because of the initial reasons you mentioned (i typically pick up 1-3 warlock level so the most number of invocations i get are 2-3 with 2 of those typically reserved for agonizing blast and misty visions/repelling blast/lance of lethargy). to be able to get book of ancient secrets i'd have to allocate another invocation slot i might not have space in my build to do so. tome when you get it doesn't provide much. so if one of my reasons for going tome is just the familiar i just take chain instead, especially on caster types. blade for gish types.
i also disagree that warlock subclass choice doesn't matter. it does especially if you're looking to run specific combos. i'll share some from some of my own sorlocks;
1. clock 9, celestial 1-celestial is the only choice here as it gives us a way to get a cha based sacred flame for the wall of force + sacred flame combo. though of course if this wasn't a sorlock and it was a soric, any cleric subclass can provide sacred flame (even if it's wis based it doesn't matter with the combo) and i'd probably pick twilight/peace as the subclass for it.
2. fighter 2, divine sorc 7, fathomless 1-fathom is the only pick here as this build focuses on spirit guardians speed lockdown using the halved speed from SG + tentacle of the deep + ray of frost to reduce any enemy's speed from 40 ft to 0, ideally with them on the outer rim of SG.
3. fighter 2, clock sorc 5, hexblade 3-hexblade is the only pick here as this is a casting striker focused on crit fishing upcasted scorching ray and eldritch blast to deal tons of dmg.
you also forgot that on the hound of ill omen through a wall/ground strat that they are coming from being unseen so they'd get advantage to attack and can't be attacked/targeted with spells.
I'd skip devil's sight on a ranged character. misty visions is superior in each and every way as it's a psuedo-greater invis at will for you and any party members who stay inside your 15 ft bubble.
Thought i'd share my old scorcher build here (pre-MOM) since i was touting scorching ray in your other comments. it's a burst striker crit-fisher that starts of with scorching ray then sustains with EB + magic stone. level 10 theorycraft as usual.
"Scorcher"
fighter 2, clock sorc 5, hex 3
shadar-kai
asi: elven accuracy
fighting style: superior technique-ambush
metamagic: empower spell, transmute spell
invocations: agonizing blast, misty visions
pact: chain-imp
key spells: scorching ray, eldritch blast, tiny servant, aid, magic stone
tactics:
pre-combat:
trancelock 4 level 3 spells after your long rest. use 3 level 3 slots to create tiny servants before adventuring. standing orders, pick up magic stone and throw at your target.
cast aid on yourself and tiny servants/allies. tiny servants hide in your satchel/backpack.
while adventuring spam misty visions every 10m using an atmospheric effect appropriate to your environment such as smoke, fog, mist, sandstorm, etc. invite party members inside your misty visions and tell them to break the illusion while adventuring.
spam magic stone every 1m. tell imp to be invisible and fly. give imp a bunch of caltrops.
1st turn:
misty visions active so stay in place unless enemy is more than 60 ft away. for this scenario we'll assume enemy is 30-45 ft away at start of combat. use ambush as needed.
bonus action: hexblade's curse
if bbeg is 31-45 ft away, step out of misty visions, hexblade's curse then move back inside misty visions.
action: 3rd level scorching ray at super advantage.
action surge: 3rd level scorching ray at super advantage
free action: drop magic stones inside satchel
TS 1-3: throw magic stone at advantage
imp: drop caltrops between you and bbeg
reaction: shield, absorb elements, counterspell or hellish rebuke as necessary
2nd turn onwards:
bonus action: magic stone
action: agonizing blast at super advantage
free action: drop magic stones inside satchel
TS 1-3: throw magic stone at advantage
imp: drop caltrops between you and bbeg
dmg report:
16d6 + 32 (SR) + 3d6 + 12 (MS)=110.5 average dmg on turn 1 without factoring crits
2d10 + 16 (EB) + 3d6 + 12 (MS)=49.5 average dmg on turn 2 onwards without factoring crits
crit report:
24d20 rolls on 19-20 to crit and 6d20 rolls on 20 to crit on turn 1=you'll get 2- 3 crits
6d20 rolls on 19-20 to crit and 6d20 rolls on 20 to crit on turn 2 onwards=you'll get 0-1 crit
so yes the build has good accuracy, fights from obscurement with reaction spells if needed, great burst dmg and solid sustained dmg. functions as infiltrator/scout outside of combat.
Nice. I like that fact that you can be a scout type outside of combat too, while still contributing lots of damage. I think a lot of damage casters get really single minded and only try to do one thing. Also, you have a lot of creative ideas that aren't just EB spam forever (like magic stone usage, tiny servants and imps, etc.) I really like a lot of your ideas.
@@thedungeon1578 Thanks! though i'm looking to revise this post-MOM to a version 2.0 so the tiny servants/aid are going away.
i want to make bugbear scorcher and i'm leaning towards wild magic (tides of chaos on initiative).
as far as trying to do only one thing, in combat yeah i typically have a couple of core tactics i focus on but i don't lean towards being a jack of all trades who can do everything. i find being specialized (being excellent at a couple of things then just above average or lower at others) helps my allies shine better and teamwork is more relevant. same with out of combat and personally why i hate the skill monkey archetype as they try to take over all skill challenges. i like better the idea that the different skill roles are divided among party members as i feel it that gives everyone a chance to shine. like for example, i'm a sorc so generally i should be good as well at the social skills (face) if i take certain skill profs. but i leave that to the other party members.
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Totally forgot about undying and celestial warlocks.
Celestial get limited free healing, while Undying gets the spare the dying cantrip, and advantage on disease saving throws.
I prefer divine soul sorcerer and if you mix it with Undying, you can really stack on necromancy mage that's not wizard. With some optional healing magic. I aslo like mixing it with celestial for a more potent healer/support.
Are you looking forward to the early release of Baulder's Gate 3?
I sure am. BG2 and BG2 expansion are two of my favorite RPGs of all time. Neverwinter Knights 2 was also really great.
Yes, yes and yes!
Pact of tome rituals are limited by warlock level so only 1st & 2nd level rituals.
you can get higher leveled rituals once your warlock levels go up.
You should do an update on this. With clockwork soul, custom lineage and the new feats, the optimal sorlock built has changed quite a bit! ... And became a lot stronger!
I'm actually working on a video featuring "Blaster Casters", and this is one of the builds we are going to look at!
Hexblade also gives you Hexblades curse, which can be combined with hex! (and later bestow curse)
With 8 beams (quicken), you can do 8*(1d10+5+6+1d6)=160 damage every round!
cast hold person/monster in the first round, and that goes up to 232
and with advantage from darkness etc, you hit quite reliable
Also, if you take repelling blast, the target gets moved 80 ft each round.
Most characters can only move 60 ft, and that is when dashing.
So you can reliably keep the enemy away from you. Especially if you also use spell sniper/ eldritch spear
Good point. Also, I like the name.
@@thedungeon1578 thanks. It always dissapoints me a little to realize, that there is no mechanical reason to play any warlock but the hexblade. They are superior in every situation :/
@@aldoushuxley5953 I like Lurker in the Depths, it's pretty nice - basically a Spiritual Weapon as an ability is super solid
@@AbyssArray the way we solved it in my group is by making Hex Warrior a pact of the blade feature, instead of a Hexblade feature.
That makes Hexblade 1 dips less good, and also makes other subclasses more viable.
(Hexblade 1 dips are annoying, because literally every cha class gets twice as good just by taking one level in hexblade. Paladins in particular are a problem)
fiend in particular could actually better in meelee now, although hexblades are still the kings of eldritch blasting.
lurker of the deep sounds very interesting, but I have not yet played one, so I can't comment on that.
I like the thematic flavour of it though.
Reminds me of Lovecraft :)
@@aldoushuxley5953 this didn't age well. haha. fathomlocks and genielocks are pretty good competition now.
I'm doing a Hexblade Warlock/Divine Soul Sorcerer based off Byleth from Fire Emblem, great help my friend.
I think you should re-visit this build en lieu of the new feats and spells presented in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything.
One of the MAIN attractions of Pact of the Tome for me, is you get 3 cantrips from ANY class list, and they ALL count as warlock cantrips. This means they use Charisma instead of another stat. If you take Divine Soul as your Sorcerer subclass and get access to all the cleric cantrips that way, taking Pact of the Tome can be an excellent way to pick up GEMS such as Thorn Whip, Vicious Mockery, and Primal Savagery, making you the king/queen of cantrip versatility.
Hexblade's Curse is NOT a spell, and does NOT take concentration so it WILL stack with Hex, it just takes 2 rounds to get going. Especially at low levels having a bonus 1d6 + 2 AND being able to crit on 19-20 against a big boss is VERY strong.
Hexblade also give you access to Medium Armor and Shield proficiency which makes you massively tanky.
Ya, I plan on doing a bunch of videos with all the Tasha's stuff. Some old builds aren't as good because there are better options, but some are better than ever :)
@@thedungeon1578 Yea, a lot of the new feats are JUICY for sorcerer builds.
personally, the reason i'd ever take tome would be for another way to align attack/cast stat (cha) without picking hexblade by picking shillelagh as one of the cantrips. i'd round it out by picking up the real gems like guidance and mold earth.
I have a character build for a demigod of fire and death (they are for a demigod campaign) they are a noble background (I wanted them to have a reputation) tiefling (I choose tiefling because everyone starts with a free feat/race feat and tiefling have a feat that improves fire magic) with 17 levels of Devine soul sorcerer (I think that should make sense) 2 levels of fiend warlock (they make some deals with mortals try to solidify their divinity) and 1 level of death cleric (they needed more control over death magic) if it's decided that the campaign will be using the Greek/Roman pantheon it's very safe to say their a child of Hades the end goal of the demigod campaign is to become fully Devine (more or less a miner/lesser God at minimum) and then become/make there own new pantheon
That sounds like a really interesting character concept. I also like the breakdown; 17 levels of sorcerer still gives you 9th level spells, 2 levels of warlock is obviously great, and 1 level of death domain cleric gives you some nice options.
Also if you don't take any offensive spells (including cantrips) from the level of death cleric (except you are required to get a necromancer cantrip) then you can truly take advantage of that 1 level by using it for access to a few not offensive spells mostly utility and shield of Faith and the cantrips are pretty much whatever you choose
The 2 levels of fiend warlock give a sort of healing facter that only is active when you kill something and you can use the warlock spells as if they were normal sorcerer spells and you get more options from warlock
So I was looking up how the extra necromancer cantrip from death cleric works for multiclassing and most people online seem to say that you get to choose what class it's from and that the class you choose determines what stat you use for it
@@christianwhite8877 this is incorrect. the extra death cleric necromancy cantrip will be wis based but you get to choose any necromancy cantrip from any class.
I have decided to play a sorlock in our new campaign. But I have trouble with my spell choices.
I will go 18 shadow sorcerer/ 2 hexblade (half elf).
I have the feeling, that too many of my spells require concentration.
What spells do you recommend for 5+ level? (in particular damage spells)
personally, i wouldn't go for much dmg spells at these levels as the best ones are at lower levels. like for single-target the best ones are magic missile and scorching ray. for aoe, then synaptic static (5th). anyway here's a couple of recommended spells for 5-9:
5th-telekinesis, synaptic static, summon draconic spirit, wall of stone (if campaign takes place indoors or in areas with alot of stone)
6th-mass suggestion, scatter, true seeing (only if your dm likes sending invisible enemies), disintegrate (only if your dm likes sending wall of force casters)
7th-crown of stars, finger of death (only for campaigns where you can kill humanoids freely), plane shift, teleport
8th-demiplane (yeah this is trash level for sorcs. better to use for upcast)
9th-wish, time stop (lets be honest though you're getting wish)
I currently have a level 7 hex-blade warlock. I really want to make him a bit more tanking while maintaining the high damage i already have. I was thinking i could get toughness and then multi class into Divine Sorcerer. this would give me that meta magic for casting more shield/absorb element spells in my level 1 sorc spell slots as well as more Hex spells. But also i was thinking the divine sorcerer could help me stay afloat health wise since ill have things like Healing word because i feel like a few level 1 healing words as my bonus actions on f ew turns later in a fight could really help offset some of that damge and make me tankier since i get the 1d4+5 for every healing word. plus i like the idea of having healing to help out my party. but mostly i want to go sorcer multiclass to give me alot more spell slots for my shield and absorb element spells as well as a few hex if needed. Any thoughts? maybe there is a better more fun way to make this a tanky build?
Actually, I think Sorcerer is a great combo with Hexblade. Paladin is strong too, but Sorcerer will give you better casting options which is quite nice. Also meta magic is really nice.
i'd skip toughness.
i think you're looking at this the wrong way. the best way to mitigate dmg is not via being sturdy. its by making sure your enemies are doing nothing then just relying on your defenses for stragglers. this means, yes sorcs are the way to go but this is because you'd want more spells/spell slots and use those spell slots for control such as web, fear, hypnotic pattern, polymorph, banishment, hold, etc.
trying to pump defenses means your easy to counter for your DM. if you pump ac, they'll send casters. if you pump saves, they'll send brutes. it's costly to try to pump both. going for control, means regardless of what your enemies are they'll be ineffective. divine sorc is definitely a good pick for death ward, healing, etc.
You can only cast rituals of a level that is equal to or lower than half your warlock level rounded down.So a level 3 warlock will be able to cast lvl 1 rituals
If you want to be unrestricted by level requirements, pick feat "ritual caster" but then you are restricted by class.
It's half level rounded up. Same as the spell level you have access to.
@@beaug4306 from the PHB:
"When you find such a spell, you can add it to the book if the spell’s level is equal to or less than half your warlock level (rounded up) and if you can spare the time to transcribe the spell."
Unlike the caster level, this is not dependent on the total character level, but the warlock level
For a melee build make sure you have Shadow Blade spell. My favorite warlock is the Hex Blade you get expanded crit and you can use your cha stat for attacks
Excellent point. Shadow Blade is a spell I should have mentioned specifically because it is so good when upcast, and a great potential source of attacking with advantage. Great comment.
take note, you cant use shadowblade with hex warrior as the shadowblade isn't present (nor lasts) after your long rest hex warrior enchanting. nor is it a pact weapon.
@@thedungeon1578 sadly it doesn't work RAW with hex warrior so i think the omission is fine.
I personally took 3 levels of warlock of the raven queen, and then went full shadow sorc. Agonizing blast and devils sight were just awsome. And i took the pact of the chain and took a sprite, it went perfect with my character. I just, took a step back every fight, Quickened spell Darkness on myself and eldritch blast with advantage AND elven accuracy. Add some great rp for being the face of the party and the edgy character at the same time and you have what i call a grest fucking character :)
Yes, that's a great character. I especially love elven accuracy for almost perma-super advantage.
i dont understand the need to take devil's sight here. shadow sorc's already see in magical darkness.
moreover for a ranged character, darkness+devil's sight is suboptimal. you can get the same effect (obscurement) with misty visions without the need to burn a spell slot/sorc points nor spending your 1st action/bonus action in combat (since misty visions is at will so you can have it setup while adventuring pre-combat).
I made my sorlock 15/5 because i wanted it more melee. The goal of the build was to pump everything into charisma and want to know if this will stack in the long run or did i make it too versatile?
Actually, That sounds like a really good mix too. One thing I love about these two classes is that they synergize so well together, there's really no "wrong" way to do things. Also, never be afraid to try your own mix. Just because me or someone else had one idea in mind, doesn't mean you couldn't take more/less/other class mixes to match more of what you personally wanted or envisioned from your character.
Agreed with dungeon rob here. 15/5 split should work. what i'd only caution on is it's kind of pointless to plan level 20 builds if you know your campaign will end before that. for example at my own table, the campaign typically ends at level 15-16 (we start at level 6-10) so when i theoycraft builds i play for level 10 (the midpoint). if i were to extend that plan, i would go no further than 15-16.
The rituals are a invocation, book of ancient secrets. All tome gives you is extra cantrips
Great video got a sub from me.
Welcome aboard!
We're starting a new campaign and i'm going to play a little warlock 2 wild sorc 18. everyone says they suck, but I don't care. I think it's going to be fun and I'm not trying to min max. I used to do that and it ruined the game for me.
Honestly, just play what you want and have fun. Warlock 2/Sorc X is a great build, and I'm sure you'll have a blast with it.
wild sorcs only suck if the dm doesn't let you surge. with a dm who lets you surge on every cast they are a top 4 sorc subclass and arguably the most underrated sorc. wild sorcs also own the distinction of being the best telekinesis user in the game (along with counterspell/dispel magic user).