He was awesome live on this tour too, creatures was my first concert ever. I was disappointed though only because I was always a huge ace fan. I was a kid. I was looking forward to going and seeing him. When I got to the show I saw all of the tour shirts with Connie, I didn’t know who that was, no one did.. no one knew ace left yet. That was the only let down. The place was half empty, Vinnie played well, the solo was way too long and idk he just didn’t feel right. Funny how all the churches in West Virginia were outside passing out bibles and protesting. Great memories though for a kid
Hey Kiss Diaries- I’ve really enjoyed this series you put together combining audio from Paul and Gene’s audiobooks! Great idea and fantastic coordinating of the tales. Keep on rockin!
@@kissdiaries no thank you so much. All of the videos are very good. Especially the 10 part Playlist with the animation is just fantastic. One of those shows in Australia i was present. Eric Carr and no Peter. Ace ended up pushing the drum platform back Eric was on......anyway time to subscribe and again thank you :)
I was 14 and when I got Creatures I didn’t know what to expect. I was surprised! Powerful songs and POWERFUL DRUMS! Thunder from Eric Carr. Eric will never get his due. He was a incredible player.
It did! You have a French name, You are a disgrace for the Las Vegas of Canada-Montreal the all time Metal Capital of Metal! When that album came out,Montreal was the only venue sold out-Forum. You should fucking remember that or you are no real frog but a squarehead.
@@patrickmoreau7592 I never said it was the centre of the world. Please use my words only. Europe is the main platform for Metal and music in general. Internet have killed that magic and mystery. Back in the heydays we were just happy to see them in 3 dimensions,,,when a band came to town. Now you have the drama,the human sides,ect of them at one click away. All best.
Creatures is an Excellent Album that stood up the time. Still remember the excitement when I brought it home and dropped the needle. It was hard and heavy no compromise. Big respect to Paul that he kept the War Machine rolling in the hard times.
My favorite kiss album and tour I saw them for first time, I was so young then I barely remember it except the stage show was awesome with that tank that had the drum riser on top
This piece just sugar coats the era. Kiss business manager Chris Lendt certainly captured the accurate pulse of the Creatures era in his book “Kiss and Sell” This book is truly telling…
I was sure glad they came to my small city, ON MY BIRTHDAY no less, with the awesome Plasmatics opening, easily the best birthday I'll ever have! I missed being able to see them a few years earlier, in their peak, on the Love Gun / Alive II tour, because my parents thought I was too young, still but I'm sure glad this kind of made up for it, later though I still wish I could've seen the other tour, too!
Original line up most magical, love every member in the history of the band but the original line up and Carr and Vincent was my second favorite line up.
How did everyone not know how absolutely awesome Creatures was at the time? "I Still Love You" might be the most perfect power ballad of all time, if it wasn't for "A Million To One", that is... And the harder songs are so "metal" for these guys. The Vinnie lineup, regardless of Paul's "interpretation", is the most potent and talented iteration of the band. They had more energy and just pounded out those double-bass riffs when Vinnie was there than anyone else. And seriously, this is KISS we're talking about. Don't you think they had other choices than Vinnie? If Paul said he didn't want him, they wouldn't have had him. They loved what he brought to the table. They just didn't like "him". Vinnie made them better. Regardless of his personality flaws, he made them a better, more relevant band. Paul throws all 3 of them under the bus nearly every time he mentions their names. Gene a little bit, as well. Pete did nothing if not instigate. So his version is unreliable sometimes. Ace usually keeps it clean about insulting anyone else in the band. He will do it. But not as a rule, the way Paul does. Loved these guys, if you can't tell. All the way until the "imposter" years... Vinnie rocked. 🤘
Creatures wasn't accepted as one of the bands best works when it was released because by that time in their history hardcore fans had abandoned them after the Unmasked album and the teeny-bopper fans they amassed upon releasing Dynasty deserted them upon the release of The Elder. Save for a few diehard fans, Kiss' entire fanbase had dwindled down to nothing by the time Creatures was released, which explains why the album performed so poorly and their U.S. tour lost money. Had that album come out following Dynasty it would have been praised for being ground-breaking and ahead of its time. However, when it was released Creatures sounded like a lot of contemporary rock albums of the day. Thus, there was nothing about it that set the band apart from Ozzy, Motley Crue, Dio, Quiet Riot, Dokken, etc. It wasn't until after they removed the makeup the band received recognition again, but by that time they had become just another 80's hair band.
Not to piss of the KISS purists, but KISS with Eric & Vinnie in makeup was just as good as Ace & Peter!! It's kinda strange how Ace is my all-time favorite KISS member, but once he left and they did Creatures, it was my favorite KISS album of all time because it was so damn heavy. It sounded like KISS always should of sounded compared to their look.
The Eric/Vinnie line up was totally bad ass. Vinnie was hands down the baddest kiss guitarist. St. John and Kulick were really good. But Vinnie ruled them. All the solos were phrased amazingly let alone the writing he brought to the table.
With Vinnie the vibe was off. You can even see it their live performances, Paul really hated the dude 🤣🤣🤣🤣 His energy was not the same on stage with Vinnie beside him 😆😆😆 They had better chemistry with Eric and Bruce as the line up. Bruce like Eric had 0 ego so that works for better for the egomaniacs Gene and Paul 😂😂😂
Musically that lineup was better more talented the then the original it's just that it didn't have the original sound that people came to love from Kiss
Creatures Of The Night! What an exciting time on KISStory. It became and remained my all time favorite KISS album! Its thunderously heavy drumming by Eric Carr with incredible songwriting by Paul and Gene and ultra powerful vocals, along with chainsaw sounding guitar work by Vinnie, and several special guests like Steve Farris and Robben Ford.
It was a good album but when I bought it & played it for the first time, it didn't sound like "KISS" to me and it was because Ace wasn't in the band nor playing on it BUT we were lied to and made to believe otherwise.
My favourite KISS album. I wished this was Eric’s debut album instead of the elder because his drumming was great on this and I think if KISS went straight to making Creatures instead of the elder than it would’ve been more successful at the time.
They were at all time low points in there career due to crappy albums they put out before hand plus there were so many other bands which were puting out great albums with no filler.
Creatures of the Night is one of my favorite kiss albums, it came out during a time when all the best rock music I’ve ever heard was coming out, bands such as Ozzy, AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Billy Squier, Scorpions, Rush, Triumph, Van Halen, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Sammy Hagar, and even Bryan Adams were all hitting it big and with hard rock and heavy metal 🎸 becoming very popular at that time, but kiss creatures of the night was my favorite album over all those other bands
I didn't even know Slash from GNR was trying out for the lead guitar position during the COTN era. Another interesting fact that Bruce Kulick was trying to get the position during this era. But, he didn't get it and two years later he will get the position after the whole Mark St. John situation.
Look, V V was fkd up, yes, but so was Ace! People wouldve said similar bad things about Ace, too.. Paul talked all kinds of shit on Ace.. but they just couldnt tolerate the new guy being as weird as Ace
Funny how Paul said sometimes people listen with their eyes and not their ears because creatures and revenge are too top five Kiss albums gene would say creatures and revenge are 2 of their strongest and most satisfying albums and Paul agreed. Although I like dynasty I can't believe it sold more than both creatures and revenge combined.
I'm sorry for my ignorance here, but the Canadian musician Gene says who was brought in to help with Creatures...'Bryan Adams'....could this possibly be the same man as, 'Cuts like knife', 'Run to you', 'Everything I do, I do it for you'.....?
He’s actually on it. Just some light rhythm guitar. Some recording session notes were uncovered proving he was there. Just another lie by Gene and Paul.
U know I love Gene and Paul but it's kind of strange how everyone they work or have worked with has been torture to them but what if it's not everybody else maybe they're just kinda difficult to get along with. That always striked me when they say it was miserable working with this person that person but it can't always be the other person or persons. Maybe Gene and Paul are not the easiest guys to get along with somehow.
They don’t say it was torturous to work with Bruce Kulick or Tommy Thayer or Eric Singer in fact there’s been quite a few people that have said that VV was not easy to deal with not just Gene and Paul
Well, what can I say about 'Creatures', except wow, what a departure from the previous album, the "infamous" Elder album. ( which by the way, I actually thought was pretty good). Songs like War Machine, I Love it Loud and the title track would go on to become favorites of the "KISS ARMY". I'm not really sure why the album didn't sell better than it did. One of the heaviest Kiss albums they've done, along with Hotter Than He'll and the much later release, Revenge.
Gene and Paul are all about money. They bellyache over and over about Peter and Ace. Yet they had every opportunity to not have them in the band. Vinnie also posed problems but they didn’t want to lose money by delaying the album and tour.
Guitar auditions for Kiss? In California/ NY (??) Wherever.. and VV was the best choice, even though he was too skinny and small and didn't fit the image?? Why hire him then. Guitarists are like a nickel a baker's dozen at that time. WTH Gene.
The picture on the left, you wonder when KISS had a woman in the band. The picture on the right fixes the picture on the left. Like waking from a bad dream. Sorry, Ace was basically the face of KISS.
Creatures incredible, solid album! They should have think things through and go back to touring clubs for Creatures. Would have felt and sounded much better selling out those again instead of empty arenas I find.
They should have made a deal for Eddie to tour as their guitarist for that tour without any kiss make up. Just a one tour thing. It would have been fun and great. Fun wasn't a gene and Paul thing. To see Eddie having fun playing kiss songs would have been. They could have dropped the corny Paul yelling stupid tired cliches between songs. Just be kiss with special guest Eddie Van Halen. Who wouldn't have wanted to see that tour?
Gene and Paul hirer two talented but difficult to work with guitarists in a row. They turned down other people who were great musicians but "weren't the right fit". At some point it's kind of their fault. Also Creatures is one of their best albums and deserved way more popularity but they were damaged goods after the Elder.
Ace wasn’t hired. He helped form the band and he wasn’t necessarily hard to work with. Paula and Gene were/are. They’re control freaks and workaholics. Ace and Peter wanted to work and enjoy their success.
thats what I dont get ,............... LA early 80s .........and you cant find a lead guitarist that wants in KISS , mindblowing. so u settle for someone who is stubborn, you dont like his solos, wont cooperate etc etc etc.
U missed the point Vinnie didn't ever sign his contract ...I wonder what Bruce Kulicks contract was and NO way known on earth Eddie Van Halen wdv been in kizz for what he wd have wanted contractually I dont believe he wanted to be in kizz
It's odd how Gene n Paul cling to the Creatures album. During the 80s they played more off it than they played their current album they were actually touring for. Creatures is okay, mostly bland music with laughable lyrics that reek of desperation. Danger, war machine, killer,,,,,lol really guys. Paul going on bout how he lives on edge is so fake
the solo records was the beginning of the end of kiss. the awful movie, kiss dolls, comic books etc. ace's album should have been a kiss album after love gun, then creatures. the elder could have been the follow up and would have been a success. dynasty and umasked were total garbage that turned the band into a pop rock bring out the kids with their moms. kiss saved themselves by taking the make up off and within a year people came back.
Best and heaviest Kiss album!
One of my all time favs.
Paul’s vocal performance on this album is really amazing, his voice was in top shape here.
He was awesome live on this tour too, creatures was my first concert ever. I was disappointed though only because I was always a huge ace fan. I was a kid. I was looking forward to going and seeing him. When I got to the show I saw all of the tour shirts with Connie, I didn’t know who that was, no one did.. no one knew ace left yet. That was the only let down. The place was half empty, Vinnie played well, the solo was way too long and idk he just didn’t feel right. Funny how all the churches in West Virginia were outside passing out bibles and protesting. Great memories though for a kid
In spite of how a lot of people don't like KISS's 80s output, Paul's voice was in absolute top form.
Hey Kiss Diaries- I’ve really enjoyed this series you put together combining audio from Paul and Gene’s audiobooks! Great idea and fantastic coordinating of the tales. Keep on rockin!
Thank you so much!
@@kissdiaries no thank you so much. All of the videos are very good. Especially the 10 part Playlist with the animation is just fantastic. One of those shows in Australia i was present. Eric Carr and no Peter. Ace ended up pushing the drum platform back Eric was on......anyway time to subscribe and again thank you :)
I was 14 and when I got Creatures I didn’t know what to expect. I was surprised! Powerful songs and POWERFUL DRUMS! Thunder from Eric Carr. Eric will never get his due. He was a incredible player.
best album of KISS and the 80's !
COTN is an epic album with a thunderous drum sound. The perfect album for sweeping out the disco sound and ushering in the metal years.
Creatures is one of their best albums.
It’s too bad it didn’t get its due when it came out.
It did!
You have a French name,
You are a disgrace for the Las Vegas of Canada-Montreal the all time Metal Capital of Metal!
When that album came out,Montreal was the only venue sold out-Forum.
You should fucking remember that or you are no real frog but a squarehead.
@@stevedamien638 Canada is not the center of the world.
KISS could not sell out New York where they are from.
@@patrickmoreau7592 I never said it was the centre of the world.
Please use my words only.
Europe is the main platform for Metal and music in general.
Internet have killed that magic and mystery.
Back in the heydays we were just happy to see them in 3 dimensions,,,when a band came to town.
Now you have the drama,the human sides,ect of them at one click away.
All best.
Agreed this is a great album
@Patrick Moreau Not sure what you mean. They sold out the Garden more than once
I was very happily surprised when this came out. Still one of my fav kiss albums.
I really wish ace voiced his book so you could here his side of the story
he dont say much in his book
Ace's voice is kinda irritating. He sounds like a drunk Jersey kid that has had a stroke. Lol. Love his music.
Ace is way too lazy to voice his book.
Check out my Episodes of THE (un)REAL KISSTORY
Will there be more Unreal Videos. 🔥
Damn good album. I liked Dynasty as a kid too.
Creatures is an Excellent Album that stood up the time. Still remember the excitement when I brought it home and dropped the needle. It was hard and heavy no compromise. Big respect to Paul that he kept the War Machine rolling in the hard times.
Get me out of rock n roll hell would always be stuck in my head when I couldn't sleep during the day doing night shift
My favorite kiss album and tour I saw them for first time, I was so young then I barely remember it except the stage show was awesome with that tank that had the drum riser on top
This piece just sugar coats the era. Kiss business manager Chris Lendt certainly captured the accurate pulse of the Creatures era in his book “Kiss and Sell” This book is truly telling…
I was sure glad they came to my small city, ON MY BIRTHDAY no less, with the awesome Plasmatics opening, easily the best birthday I'll ever have!
I missed being able to see them a few years earlier, in their peak, on the Love Gun / Alive II tour, because my parents thought I was too young, still but I'm sure glad this kind of made up for it, later though I still wish I could've seen the other tour, too!
Great interaction between dialogue and music!!👍🤘🤟🥁🥁 Much more entertaining than just hearing the audio books!
This album is some of Kiss’ finest work
It’s so fucking heavy
Original line up most magical, love every member in the history of the band but the original line up and Carr and Vincent was my second favorite line up.
How did everyone not know how absolutely awesome Creatures was at the time? "I Still Love You" might be the most perfect power ballad of all time, if it wasn't for "A Million To One", that is... And the harder songs are so "metal" for these guys. The Vinnie lineup, regardless of Paul's "interpretation", is the most potent and talented iteration of the band. They had more energy and just pounded out those double-bass riffs when Vinnie was there than anyone else. And seriously, this is KISS we're talking about. Don't you think they had other choices than Vinnie? If Paul said he didn't want him, they wouldn't have had him. They loved what he brought to the table. They just didn't like "him". Vinnie made them better. Regardless of his personality flaws, he made them a better, more relevant band. Paul throws all 3 of them under the bus nearly every time he mentions their names. Gene a little bit, as well. Pete did nothing if not instigate. So his version is unreliable sometimes. Ace usually keeps it clean about insulting anyone else in the band. He will do it. But not as a rule, the way Paul does. Loved these guys, if you can't tell. All the way until the "imposter" years... Vinnie rocked. 🤘
💯 imagine more of Vinnies songs for many more albums with KISS we would’ve have been saved from garbage like crazy nights and hot in the shade
Creatures wasn't accepted as one of the bands best works when it was released because by that time in their history hardcore fans had abandoned them after the Unmasked album and the teeny-bopper fans they amassed upon releasing Dynasty deserted them upon the release of The Elder. Save for a few diehard fans, Kiss' entire fanbase had dwindled down to nothing by the time Creatures was released, which explains why the album performed so poorly and their U.S. tour lost money. Had that album come out following Dynasty it would have been praised for being ground-breaking and ahead of its time. However, when it was released Creatures sounded like a lot of contemporary rock albums of the day. Thus, there was nothing about it that set the band apart from Ozzy, Motley Crue, Dio, Quiet Riot, Dokken, etc. It wasn't until after they removed the makeup the band received recognition again, but by that time they had become just another 80's hair band.
Creatures Of The Night is one of my top 3 KISS albums.
Not to piss of the KISS purists, but KISS with Eric & Vinnie in makeup was just as good as Ace & Peter!! It's kinda strange how Ace is my all-time favorite KISS member, but once he left and they did Creatures, it was my favorite KISS album of all time because it was so damn heavy. It sounded like KISS always should of sounded compared to their look.
The Eric/Vinnie line up was totally bad ass. Vinnie was hands down the baddest kiss guitarist. St. John and Kulick were really good. But Vinnie ruled them. All the solos were phrased amazingly let alone the writing he brought to the table.
With Vinnie the vibe was off. You can even see it their live performances, Paul really hated the dude 🤣🤣🤣🤣 His energy was not the same on stage with Vinnie beside him 😆😆😆 They had better chemistry with Eric and Bruce as the line up. Bruce like Eric had 0 ego so that works for better for the egomaniacs Gene and Paul 😂😂😂
Musically that lineup was better more talented the then the original it's just that it didn't have the original sound that people came to love from Kiss
It didn’t last long enough to be considered as such. It could’ve been if VV could have gotten along with PandG
Creatures Of The Night! What an exciting time on KISStory. It became and remained my all time favorite KISS album! Its thunderously heavy drumming by Eric Carr with incredible songwriting by Paul and Gene and ultra powerful vocals, along with chainsaw sounding guitar work by Vinnie, and several special guests like Steve Farris and Robben Ford.
It was a good album but when I bought it & played it for the first time, it didn't sound like "KISS" to me and it was because Ace wasn't in the band nor playing on it BUT we were lied to and made to believe otherwise.
My favourite KISS album. I wished this was Eric’s debut album instead of the elder because his drumming was great on this and I think if KISS went straight to making Creatures instead of the elder than it would’ve been more successful at the time.
Try 'Under the Rose ' from The Elder. Eric's drumming is incredible...
And Ace wouldn't have left either.
Always found it odd, two of Kiss's best albums, Creatures and Revenge weren't very sucessful commmercialy at the time they came out.
Couldn't agree more,two of my favourite albums also
I never cared for Revenge - not in the same class as Destroyer or COTN
And Vinnie wrote songs for both of them
They were at all time low points in there career due to crappy albums they put out before hand plus there were so many other bands which were puting out great albums with no filler.
Love hearing these stories ❤️ i love KISS ❤️
kiss music will never die because the guys gave all they got for the shake of the art back then and they still do up to this day.
Creatures of the Night is one of my favorite kiss albums, it came out during a time when all the best rock music I’ve ever heard was coming out, bands such as Ozzy, AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Billy Squier, Scorpions, Rush, Triumph, Van Halen, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Sammy Hagar, and even Bryan Adams were all hitting it big and with hard rock and heavy metal 🎸 becoming very popular at that time, but kiss creatures of the night was my favorite album over all those other bands
Wow, every song is solid .
I didn't even know Slash from GNR was trying out for the lead guitar position during the COTN era. Another interesting fact that Bruce Kulick was trying to get the position during this era. But, he didn't get it and two years later he will get the position after the whole Mark St. John situation.
War Machine shoulda been the single off Creatures.
I Love it Loud wouldve been the 2nd
Look, V V was fkd up, yes, but so was Ace! People wouldve said similar bad things about Ace, too.. Paul talked all kinds of shit on Ace.. but they just couldnt tolerate the new guy being as weird as Ace
The best album they ever did
Funny how Paul said sometimes people listen with their eyes and not their ears because creatures and revenge are too top five Kiss albums gene would say creatures and revenge are 2 of their strongest and most satisfying albums and Paul agreed. Although I like dynasty I can't believe it sold more than both creatures and revenge combined.
I'm sorry for my ignorance here, but the Canadian musician Gene says who was brought in to help with Creatures...'Bryan Adams'....could this possibly be the same man as, 'Cuts like knife', 'Run to you', 'Everything I do, I do it for you'.....?
Yes, it is ;)
@@kissdiaries thanks very much!
@@67marlins You are very welcome
You’re a saint I’m a sinner but deuces are wild; better wake up it’s break up I ain’t got the time.
Ouch!
That song slays.
'Next to yooooou I feel I'm all aloooone...
Best Kiss song 👍
My first of 15 KISS shows. The Plasmatics were the opening act
I was thinking that I read somewhere that Bob Kulick dud the Danger solo.
Paul is the man dude!
These 2 photos of bands were about 6 days apart of each other with Ace snapped first.
Was anyone fooled by the guitar playing on Creatures?
I was 12 and certain Ace wasn't playing all of it.
I did think he played some of it.
He’s actually on it. Just some light rhythm guitar. Some recording session notes were uncovered proving he was there. Just another lie by Gene and Paul.
underrated album. great album
Gene says He didnt mind paying.....lol.... does that sound like Gene?
Sharp eared KISS fans realized without being told, that Ace was NOT playing on that record. Ace's trademark guitar sound was notably absent.
U know I love Gene and Paul but it's kind of strange how everyone they work or have worked with has been torture to them but what if it's not everybody else maybe they're just kinda difficult to get along with. That always striked me when they say it was miserable working with this person that person but it can't always be the other person or persons. Maybe Gene and Paul are not the easiest guys to get along with somehow.
They don’t say it was torturous to work with Bruce Kulick or Tommy Thayer or Eric Singer in fact there’s been quite a few people that have said that VV was not easy to deal with not just Gene and Paul
One of my favs
Me as well... COTN and Lick it Up were good albums/tours.
Well, what can I say about 'Creatures', except wow, what a departure from the previous album, the "infamous" Elder album. ( which by the way, I actually thought was pretty good).
Songs like War Machine, I Love it Loud and the title track would go on to become favorites of the "KISS ARMY".
I'm not really sure why the album didn't sell better than it did. One of the heaviest Kiss albums they've done, along with Hotter Than He'll and the much later release, Revenge.
Difference between Unmasked and Creatures light years Easy as it seems Vs Danger Cheeeeese and Chalkkkk chalk was Gold
Gene and Paul are all about money. They bellyache over and over about Peter and Ace. Yet they had every opportunity to not have them in the band. Vinnie also posed problems but they didn’t want to lose money by delaying the album and tour.
Geez I love War Machine
Paul studied acting? Didn't help him on KIss Meets the Phantom of the Park.
You Tell'Em Gene
Huh...yeah.. Paul is telling his story.. so yeah he has a right to complain.
Paul Stanley needs to realize that without Ace he wouldn't have anything
They should have made Creatures of the Night after Dynasty. They wouldn't have turned off fans and sound desperate with Shandi.
So sick of hearing Paul Stanley always crying that he made sacrifices to Ace.
Guitar auditions for Kiss? In California/ NY (??) Wherever.. and VV was the best choice, even though he was too skinny and small and didn't fit the image?? Why hire him then. Guitarists are like a nickel a baker's dozen at that time. WTH Gene.
If you walk behind an Elephant you end up cleaning up the shit! - Paul Stanley
The picture on the left, you wonder when KISS had a woman in the band. The picture on the right fixes the picture on the left. Like waking from a bad dream. Sorry, Ace was basically the face of KISS.
They always had a woman in the band.. Paula Stanley 🤪🤪🤪
Creatures is a better platter than Lick It Up
Paul sound kinda like Ozzy on the title track
Creatures incredible, solid album! They should have think things through and go back to touring clubs for Creatures. Would have felt and sounded much better selling out those again instead of empty arenas I find.
They should have made a deal for Eddie to tour as their guitarist for that tour without any kiss make up. Just a one tour thing. It would have been fun and great. Fun wasn't a gene and Paul thing.
To see Eddie having fun playing kiss songs would have been. They could have dropped the corny Paul yelling stupid tired cliches between songs. Just be kiss with special guest Eddie Van Halen. Who wouldn't have wanted to see that tour?
Gene and Paul hirer two talented but difficult to work with guitarists in a row. They turned down other people who were great musicians but "weren't the right fit". At some point it's kind of their fault. Also Creatures is one of their best albums and deserved way more popularity but they were damaged goods after the Elder.
Ace wasn’t hired. He helped form the band and he wasn’t necessarily hard to work with. Paula and Gene were/are. They’re control freaks and workaholics. Ace and Peter wanted to work and enjoy their success.
This was Eric's coup de gras too bad that this album/tour like Revenge was not more successful.
Peter may have been the original drummer, but he was no Eric Carr.
Good album but I think I prefer the ALIVE III version of Creatures of the Night.
thats what I dont get ,............... LA early 80s .........and you cant find a lead guitarist that wants in KISS , mindblowing. so u settle for someone who is stubborn, you dont like his solos, wont cooperate etc etc etc.
U missed the point Vinnie didn't ever sign his contract ...I wonder what Bruce Kulicks contract was and NO way known on earth Eddie Van Halen wdv been in kizz for what he wd have wanted contractually I dont believe he wanted to be in kizz
It's odd how Gene n Paul cling to the Creatures album. During the 80s they played more off it than they played their current album they were actually touring for. Creatures is okay, mostly bland music with laughable lyrics that reek of desperation. Danger, war machine, killer,,,,,lol really guys. Paul going on bout how he lives on edge is so fake
Ace told you not to make The Elder. That was the end for him.
the solo records was the beginning of the end of kiss. the awful movie, kiss dolls, comic books etc. ace's album should have been a kiss album after love gun, then creatures. the elder could have been the follow up and would have been a success. dynasty and umasked were total garbage that turned the band into a pop rock bring out the kids with their moms. kiss saved themselves by taking the make up off and within a year people came back.