@DeeBeeGeek yeah, essentially ALL of the primarch's, with the exception of Vulkan of the salamanders, are all around 9-10 feet tall on average. Horus in the trailer here, is also juiced to the gills with Chaos/warp energy, making him even bigger
@@parkermorris3151 Isn't Alpharius and Omegon short Bois? That's what I was told when I asked my friends back in the day about how the Marines of the Alpha Legion could pretend to be them.
@@QuayNemSorr basically, though it needs to be noted that Alpharius’ special power is fading. Not like Corax, he’s visible, but unrenarkable, not drawing attention
The two missing Primarchs or Legions has no real explanation, they're simply there so people can create their own Legion/Chapter and have it be technically canon. The in-canon explanation though is that the two missing Primarchs and Legions were expunged from existence for doing something so awful their entire existence was forgotten, and that's literally all we have in canon lol
There is a bit more to it than that (but not much) and it's not clear that they did (or at least both did) something awful either. A few little extras: - They are known as the Forgotten and the Purged. - The Space Wolves are implied to have been involved in the dissolution of both legions - the Space Wolves have a reputation as the Emperor's executioners. - It's implied they were lost fighting an advanced Xenos race known as the Rangda (see Rangdan Xenocides).
The Your Dudes angle to the missing legions was not their original purpose, nor is it currently. While there was a time where GW basically said "sure you can homebrew them if you want", the original designers came up with the idea simply as some lost history, because ten millennia is a long-ass time. And in the current era the setting and even the legions themselves have been given enough context that making your own head canons no longer works.
I forgot which book it was Pre-Heresy, but Sanguinius admitted to Horus that one of the reasons why he was so obsessed in looking for the cure for the Red Thirst was because he was afraid that he and his Legion would become like the missing Primarchs. So a malfunctioning gene-seed was also a theory of why the two had been either killed or erased.
@@wymarsane7305 Though you can still fanfic your way into making a new legion if you want, nobody will stop you from painting your Astartes what you want and then giving they some unique lore.
The Earth is called Terra because it's the formal latin name of Earth. Like in real life. Today. Same with the moon, it's formal latin name is Luna. Course this is because it's derived from the original Latin, so many Latin based languages refer to them by those names as well.
@@vadman5537well yeah cause luna is Latin and the places that still call the moon luna are generally romance language/descended from Latin, like Spanish, Italian etc...
Its the latin names for earth and moon... but also Terra is Earth in my language in Portuguese... so for me Terra, is Terra ( earth) as i ever known i figure is the same in Spanish
The motive is simple: he was lied to and corrupted by Chaos. Yes, the Emperor kept the nature of the warp and chaos from them, because he thought no belief = no power for the chaos gods. So chaos used that to manipulate Horus, basically saying "if he lied about that, what else may he have lied about?" and then convincing him that he is secretly super evil and that only the Gods are worthy to be served. Most chaos marines stilll believe it.
Also creating the narrative that Big E making him the Warmaster and in charge of all the strategic elements of the great crusade was essentially giving Horus the finger and stealing the glory of battle from him, and alienating him from the other legions.
@@matsudoambition2509this. he was lied to by being shown the truth. He had a vision of the imperium today, where the galaxy is horrible, big E is worshipped as a god, and Horus is utterly forgotten. In his attempt to to keep this dark future from happening Horus accidentally caused it to be so.
12:17 and 12:30 are trailers from Total War: Warhammer, which is about the fantasy side. The trailers for that game are almost all S-Tier (edit: the game is also S-Tier), and theres a ton of em. They're seperate universes but with a basic understanding of 40k you can easily jump in. A fantasy tangent sometime down the road would be awesome to see.
Many, me included, think that what he said was a coverup for the real reason of banning religion (as it was stated that, while chaos can feed off religion, it mostly feeds from emotions, but religion is also stated multiple times that it's used as the biggest gate to reality by chaos to have a foothold on a world, and corrupt people around, a single corrupt or possessed citizen will corrupt others and do a ritual to summon Cthulhu like daemons and others.) Why the coverup? Simple chaos corruption again, people get crazy or corrupted when they simply witness their symbols or hear strange noises, that's why it's a secret even to primarchs.
that trailer was for the second edition of the horus heresy tabletop. the launch trailers for 9th and 10th edition 40k the main game, and for the recent Age of Sigmar edition, the fantasy setting are also of similar quality
Warhammer 40k is incredible, but once you've learned all you can, you want more. I do suggest if you (Dee) get "tired" or "bored" of Warhammer 40k, check out Warhammer fantasy, its cool.
Those giant machines are Titans. You may be remembering Knights from Bricky’s videos. Knights are a lot smaller- operated by a single person. Titans are typically operated by a crew of many people and are the largest engines of war fielded by the Imperium on the battlefield.
4:20 the trailer was for the Horus Heresy Tabletop. Which I think had been around for a while alongside 40k but was getting a new edition? (I'm sure someone will clarify)
@@MrNotyobusiness Did a bit of searching. It was for the 2nd edition of the Horus Heresy game. 1st edition was back in 2017 through Forge World according to lexicanum
@@berserk06 Yes, it was for 2nd edition. 1st edition started in 2017, but the Horus Heresy game has been around since 2012 where it first used 40k rules (6th and 7th edition).
@9:30 because initially they were supposed to be “make your own” Legions, but proved too much of a lore headache. So later editions added that these two Primarchs did something SO HORRIBLE, that any and all traces of them and their legions were wiped from existence. Physically and mentally. It’s a story that’s likely not going to be told.
“The Awakening” is the new best 40k animation. It is a full fan-made movie. Also glad you found the Sandman on Terra, he is one of the best 40k youtubers
i would first suggest Adeptus Ridiculous, and then Isyander and Koda, coz Adeptus Ridiculous have horus heresy better....until I-K make that 12 hour Heresy Video
Horus is so much bigger then any other regular space marine, because he's hand-crafted from the Emperor's his own freaking self genetic material. If the Emperor is like a god and his size is like a giant, then his sons primarchs (Horus is one of them) are demigods and half his size, as space marines are half their primarchs size (because they are hand-crafted from their primarchs and human genetic material) and the humans half regular space marine size.
4:07 it's a trailer for TABLETOP game, yes, for plastic little toy-soldiers with THIS quality and THIS lore (100+ books about it). Warhammer 30k is subtype of Warhammer 40k.
if you want to try other 40K games. i suggest Shootas, blood, & teef as one of the good one. its side scrolling action shooter like metal slug or contra, but we're playing as ork. the game is shit ton of ork shenanigans. the game tho, quite pricey for small content, i suggest to wait for sale. or you can watch bricky review of the game also, maybe boltgun too
You should check the lore for the Leagues of Votann They are a new/returning faction that was not referenced in the "all factions" video, as that video is no longer up-to-date with the current events You should best check WesHammer's video on them They first appeared in the 1st and 2nd editions of the game, called Squats back then, but were discontinued due to being too similar to the Imperial Guard and Space Marines, and having underdeveloped lore. They made however a huge comeback in the 9th edition and the current 10th edition, with greatly improved lore, under the new name of Leagues of Votann (the name "Squat" was revealed to be a derogatory name given to them by the |mperium of Man) Basically, just as the Eldar are Space Elves, the Leagues of Votann are Space Dwarves
People forget that in the beginning waaay back in the 1970's this was a toy company. It made a miniature game. Miniature games in themselves are a niche genre of games, especially in 1970's. So they began the creation of this "lore" to sell miniatures. Part of this "lore" was the 20 Legions. They omitted 2 legions so that "players new and old" could create their own fan based lore to base their armies on. for creative purposes. Ultramarines are blue. Meh, I want bright Silver Chrome ones and I'm gonna call them the "Silver Hounds" and they'll have Chapter master Barksalot, from the geneseed of the lost 2nd legion primark, Lassius Rintintin. That why there are 2 missing legions lost to history for all time. Along the way as the hobby and lore grew, and authors wrote their novels in the universe, it kinda become codified. "Where's the 2nd and 18th legions?" *Click of a bolter against your temple, "Care to repeat that question, Citizen?" However, the hobby needs to grow and appeal to a newer audience, thus we get the second foundings, successor chapters and now we have the ultima founding. It's how homebrew space marine chapters are done. Mine are from the Age of Apostasy, 36th Millennium. A splinter from the Black Templars to chase down Vandire forces but lost in the warp.
To answer some of your questions, the artwork here is about 99% official art. A good chunk of it is from the Horus Heresy book covers and others are from the card game. The Slaanesh video you liked and that cinematic with the Greater Daemon of Nurgle with maggots in its mouth were from Warhammer Fantasy, specifically the Total War: Warhammer 3 game, both of which are worth checking out imo. These cinematics still fit because daemons and Chaos in general remain largely the same across both universes.
Yeah. That map of the Realm of Chaos, I think was from either Warhammer Fantasy Battle, or Age of Sigmar, cos I remember the Eye of Terror had fans going "Wait a minute, are the two games in the same Universe?" I think GW said it was a Easter Egg, I think the Artist just wanted to mess with the fans.
That recap of the Heresy would've been a lot better if Sandman wasn't making jokes that only make sense to 40K fans who already know everything every five seconds.
I highly recommend (if not already on your list): Invicta- 2 part 'True Size of a Tyranid Invasion' and 2 part 'True Size of a Space Marine Chapter' videos Both will help give a ton of context for your Space Marine 2 playthrough.
If you want super in depth and highly produced lore, Leutin09 is an amazing channel. If you want amazing speculation and theories on fringe topics, Sandman is the way to go. If you want some lolz, with a broad intro to the lore, pancreasnowork and Majorkill are goated.
Seriously if you ever got asked the question how would kind of describe the warp, watch "Event Horizon". What could happen to a ship travelling through the warp. Its the best 40k film that's not 40k. Many of us see it as a 40k precursor humanities early early dabbling into FTL tech. All round great Sci-fi horror film.
One of the script writers has in fact confirmed that they took inspiration from Warhammer for the movie, on a Twitter Q&A. One of his co-writers was a Warhammer 40k table top player and he started telling them about the whole Warp travel, that lead them to write the story of the movie.
@@doublep1980 Fun-ish fact, back when I was studying English literature A-Level, my teacher made as watch Event Horizon as an example of Gothic Traditions in modern film. We also watched Men in Black for the same thing.
@@doublep1980 I did not know that. That explains everything the 40k influence in the film it was just too blatant. It just re-afirms my stance on Event Horizon its a 40k film any body who disagrees is a heretic and can fight me on it. 🤣
The cinematic is for a boxed set of plastic toy soldiers.. and rule set.. to fight the battles of the Horus Heresy set in the year 30,000 (round about).
Hey @deebeegeek the reason horus is so big than other space marine is because he's a primarch all the primearchs tower above theirs sons , and the giant robot,s are warlord class titans and there is more 40k content called Pariah Nexus it's a good story
9:49 also perfect explanation of potential reason about 2 and 11 is on arbiter ians channel. 15 minutes and you will be satisfied completely, and blown away by how DEEP and misterious that thing is
What's impossible to imagine is the time difference. Our current civilization is only 2,000 to what, maybe 4-6,000 years old? Warhammer is 39,000 years into the future. It's doubtful Humanity will even still exist as a Species by that time at the rate we're going.
Finally, Horus Heresy reaction. This sub series of 30k has 100+ novels/books and I read them ALL - and it's awesome 18+ years long series experience. They need to make a movie/series like GoT/LotR with a billion+ dollar budget. But hope is the first step on the road to disappointment... "Death is all around us now: the death of the body, the death of the spirit, but most of all the death of hope." "The hand of the Arch-Traitor struck, and Hell followed with it..." even the quotes as metal as fuck.
Ok on another note, when I worked at HQ there were some talks about movies. However, GW is very cautious about their IP. All talks failed because GW’s stipulations about how their IP should be used. If Henry Caville manages to get the Amazon TV series off the ground and close to what Fallout managed it will be amazing! I suggest you visit a Warhammer store. If possible visit Warhammer World cause damn it’s amazing.
@Deebee Don't worry about the 2nd and 11th legion. Originally GamesWorkshop just proclaimed that all knowledge of them had been purged to leave two blank Legions that players could use to make up something for themselves. All Legions/Chapters have a distinct colour scheme. But for those who want to get creative with the painting, or want to try another mix of units, the "purged knowledge" allows them to proclaim their chapter as part of the 2nd or 11th. It also gives a possibility to make up all kinds of stories.
If you are interested in an in detail look at the timeline of events in 40k from the Imperium's perspective, than you should check out luetin09's Emperor of Man series. At least the first two videos. Should clarify a lot of things you are missing and/or confused on.
Couldn't agree more. Once you're finished with the necessary evil that is brickys videos, these should be next. Theyre required viewing for people new to the setting. It goes in depth into how humanity came to be the way it is now. Includes a lot about the horus heresy as thats one of the most important events in 40k.
If you want some more animated fan videos that are more on the visual action side of things then i URGE you to watch the Warhammer 40k SFM Animations by a RUclipsr called Sodaz. Unfortunately a few things happened while back and it resulted in having those videos removed from his channel HOWEVER you can still find reuploads of them that have a sizeable viewer count. They're about 2 - 8 ish minutes long so you could get like 2 or 3 videos in one reaction video. Sodaz was defo one of best 40k animators the community had for a a while and i recommend you react to those videos.
I am guessing people have already yelled at you to go listen/watch/react to Luetin09 and Baldermort's Guide to Warhammer. Luetin09 will give you a deep substance of content and well Baldermort just buckle up cozy into your chair and enjoy the ride.
Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are two separate but related Universes btw. Warhammer is high fantasy, 40k is Sci fi mixed with some fantasy elements. The chaos gods also exist in both and are pretty much the same.
Horus is a Primarch so hes built different. All primarches are like 10 -12 ft tall, space marines are 8ft. Just like a human would stand no chance against a space marine, its the same with a space marine standing no chance with a primarch. In one book the Lion who is a Primarch for the dark angles takes on a squad of chaos space marines with no weapon and wins for example lol.
7:00 Horus is referring to the mystery around how the emperor made the primarchs. The current cannon has only revealed half of the emperors plan, and it is currently unknown what the emperor did during his time in the warp-only that he emerged with the power to create his sons. My theory is humanitys countless years of worshiping fake gods had begun to manifest a nexus in the warp that would emerge in the far future as a 5th chaos god. The emperor eliminates all religion to slow its growth, enters the warp to strip it of different attributes he attuned to the "18" primarchs, and once placed on the golden throne-begins the millenia long process of assimilating humanitys accumulating psychic energy so that he would become the mind of the chaos god. Rather then humanity birthing a second slinesh, our collective effect on the warp would be put to use elevating the emperor to godhood instead. Horus sees the future of the imperium becoming a cult in worship of the emperor (this is cannon) he learns of the emperor's plan to ascend to godhood and assumes everything the emperor has done was for the pursuit of total power.
dee, try and find a copy of the art of the horus heresy or the art of warhammer 40000, u may be able to find them somewhere to buy on the internet, both those books are big collections of official art
Basically, for the two missing legions, GW originally intended for them to be player insert characters, so the player could effectively make their own loyalist or traitor legion to play on the tabletop. However, fans did not gel with this very well, so now they are hidden behind classified documents about horrors encountered pre-heresy
@@M4flyer that's actually a very common misconception; they were originally written into the lore when the Primarchs and the Heresy were a lore tidbit within the wider history/mythology of the Imperium (with many Primarchs essentially just being names with no character attached to them.) The original main designer for Warhammer 40k, Rick Priestley, has said on several occasions that the 2nd and 11th were just them trying to inject mystery into the setting, hearkening back to the lost Roman Legions of antiquity.
I've seen some people recommend Death of Hope, and I honestly think it's not worth watching. It barely has a story, and focuses mostly on horror/shock value. The creator also has some gatekeeper-type statements about "modern tides" and "true fans" that really put off a lot of people, myself included.
Just to get a "feel" for grit and grime intensity of the 40k universe I recommend the following fan films...#1 Astartes, #2 Guardsman #3 Death Korps of Krieg
There was actually a straight to video film of 40k, (and a German fan film from the 2008 we dont talk about but at least they tried on the costumes). The official film Is called Ultramarines: A Warhammer 40,000 Movie, sadly some of the CGI doesnt hold up to modern standards so they use a lot of sandstorms to avoid having to animate beyond a few meters vision.
I mean. If you want some very good details on lore videos, "Pancreasnowork" does a very good job in briefing on the big points of the universe, while giving enough details without overwhelming you and keeping it entertaining. Just ignore the fantasy Warhammer stuff, for now.
The trailer is for the Horus Heresy tabletop game. Its an offshoot of the main 40k tabletop, with similar rules, but all the playable characters and such being from the heresy
Motiff: 1. When recovering from warp inflicted mortal wound (yo, fuck Erebus!) he got manipulated by chaos gods and that pos into seeing vision of Emperors goal being achieving godhood at the cost of his sons, which stood in complete opposition to glorified atheism he was spreading across the galaxy when conquering 2. There were doubts among space marines what will become of them once galaxy is conquered - who needs that many superhuman warriors in time of peace? Especially that their prototypes have been genocides after their use have ended; 3. Emperor lied to his sons about nature of being in the warp - being convinced that the knowledge of chaos is what corrupts, he told them that demons are only warp aliens, and withheld information about the big 4; 4. Whom he had petitioned, tricked and/or made deal with to get power and knowledge necessary to create primarchs. Imagine this: You don’t know what will become of you once you’ll cease being useful to your father who have killed his pawns off before. You find out that not only instead of aliens in the warp there are actual gods, and he took from them the power to create you and your brothers, power that now he decrees wrong and too dangerous for you to use, and you receive vision that he wants to become god himself. How the fck are you NOT turning traitor
Space Marines are like 2.5m to 3m tall, Primarchs are like 4m - 5m tall (Exception for Alfarius who was the size of a regular Astartes), the Emperor is like 6m tall
Imagine knowing all that and THEN playing Space Marine / Dawn of War series 🔥 ''And there is no end'' - some 40[k?] years of lore to cover, that's probably not a 'talk in a bar' kind of conversation 🤣 About the moneymaker side of it, Space Marine 2 is a piece truth in that argument, we MAY have something with Amazon and if that works out we MAY have Henry Cavill as posterboy for some crazy warhammer stuff and we can all die horrible being eaten alive by Slaneesh daemons [means that we'll have bliss and joy being life] 🔥🔥🔥
Sandman has a great vid on the missing two primarchs, you should check that out. There is a book of that combines all the artwork of the heresy, you might want to check that out, you should also check out the 40k art from across the last 35 years or so, it's a real trip man.
I VERY MUCH suggest watching "Counterpoints40K" version of "Horus Heresy" cinematic trailer reaction. He's very knowledgable in terms of lore, and while explaining trailer itself he menaged to summarize huge chunk of Horus lore to explain current situation and why those events even took place
So a few things....first up, the "lies" Big E said could have been several things. 1) the existence of the chaos gods 2) what Big E was working on back on Terra 3) the open but never confirmed secret that Big E made a deal with the Chaos gods to make the primarchs, then never filled his side of the bargin...though for that to be the case, GW would need to confirm that rather than hit at it....this could also be the "stole power from the gods" part as well....
There is an official animated movie called Ultramarine that came out in 2010. It was voiced by some terrific British actors including John Hurt, Terrance Stamp and Sean Pertwee. The movie is just ok though.
So, if you're interested in more focused lore stuff, look up Adeptus Ridiculous. It's a pod cast that Bricky as well as DK dimontes and Shy Lilily put together that really dives into EVERYTHING. Not great for reaction vids tho.
Horus primary motive is 'daddy issues' he felt like the Emperor cared more about normal humans than his 'sons' and that he had abandoned the Great Crusade and them to work on his personal science projects. There was then some secondary issues; feeling that the bureaucrats that came in to administer the conquered worlds had too much power, that the Emperor hadnt told them about Chaos and the true nature of the Warp and Psychic powers (only giving them the scientific explanation) and that the Crusade was losing steam as resources were being diverted to administering the conquered worlds rather than to reinforce and maintain the speed of the Crusades advance. What tipped him over the edge though was being given a daemon possessed sword as a gift from the Emperors Children (who had already long switched to Chaos as much as a century earlier because the Emperor wouldn't let them worship him) that gnawed at his soul and slowly poisoned him with corruption.
One of the things about Warhammer 40k lore is that you don't really need to know all of it. There are a handful of more important and foundational events such as The War in Heaven, the Birth of Slaanesh, and the Horus Heresy (which has a few of its own such as the Drop Site Massacre and the Siege of Terra) but the rest is a vast and complex set of stories and info presented mostly through novels and the rule books themselves (including rulebooks for older editions of the game that could be at least 20 years old). Most people who dive into 40K lore will a)start by going deep into the lore for a specific army/faction (usually the one they are playing) and/or b) find a particular author or book series that they really like or have heard good things about and go through that. Plan C is to just find the wiki's and just try to vacuum up all the info but, without something your really looking for (i.e. "What is the whole deal with the Thousand Suns and Magnus the Red") I don't recommend it.
To answer the 2nd and 11th Primarchs question: in the beginning, Games Workshop (the company that makes 40K) reserved 2 primarch and their legions as “having had all records of them and their legions purged from the imperial records” for reasons that are only ever vaguely described as being so bad that if the truth ever got out it would be the end of not just the Imperium, but also the death of any hope of a unified humanity ever existing. Which considering that some people know the truth about what Horus did, it must have been pretty bad. There are some hints that one fell to mind controlling aliens, and the other might be locked in a cell below the Golden Palace on Terra, but it’s intentionally left unconfirmed. The real reason is GW wanted to allow players to customize their miniatures and come up with their own primarchs/legions, so they saved two numbers so that there would be one loyalist and one traitor slot for fans to fill with their OC characters and armies.
Horus is big because he is a Primarch in Terminator armour.... And this trailer is for the tabletop game of Horus Heresy, like the 40K game but set 10K years before, during the events of the Heresy..... It's a historical wargame for 40K players. Everything is canon in 40K.... And nothing is. The entire setting is presented as stories from a biased perspective, so multiple things can be true at the same time. For the Imperium, Horus was corrupted by Chaos and turned evil. For the Traitors, the Emperor is alleged to have made a deal with Chaos for power, but then not kept his side of it, which angered them and ultimately led to the Heresy.... but obviously very few people know if this actually happened and they are not talking.
before 3rd edition the 2nd and 11th where left ambiguous so players could make up their own space marine legion/ traitor legion. but then in i think 4th edition they reorganized space marines into chapters rather than legions, and had the "second founding" so it wasn't really necessary within cannon anymore. the space wolves and the night lords where kept in reserve in the great crusade and where used to hunt down any imperial forces that the emperor wasn't happy with, its how leman Russ got the name "the emperors executioner" and the fan cannon back in the day was the the 2nd and 11th where annulated by the space wolves before the great crusade was over and the Horus heresy actually started. though im not sure how much of that was added to the ongoing cannon
According the lore, Leman Russ was tied 2nd for victories in the heresy with Lion. Lion would normally pull ahead in the victory count which is where their rivalry started. Horus had the most. Russ was always a great general, too many black library writers decided to piss on him for fun.
I highly recommend reacting to "IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT - Iron Warriors" by Warrior Tier. It is so awesome :O they have made a good bunch of awesome videos :)
When the Emperor finally came face to face with Horus during the siege of Terra he couldn't bring himself to kill his once favored son. In giving himself up to Horus he was dealt a near fatal blow but before Horus could finish the job Sanguinius intervened. Horus beat the ever living fuck out of Sanguinius and brutally killed him before the Emperors eyes. In a moment of rage and sorrow and without holding back the Emporer lashed out at Horus and blew him to smithereens, thus ending him. The Emperor being gravely injured was taken back to the palace of terra and preserved on the golden throne where he remains 10,000 years later. A fading corpse feeding on the souls of some 1000 human psykers daily, just to get by.
So the first few Horus Heresy books talk about the WHY and HOW. Basically, spoilers, Horus was stabbed with a Nurgle blade that was slowly killing him. It was breaking him down faster than his genetics could heal. In a last ditch effort to heal him, the Word Bearers take Horus to a temple to heal, where chaos twists reality and paints the emperor as a despot that plans to murder the primarchs once the Great Crusade is over. Chaos tells him that “in the future, the imperium worships the emperor like a god” which is true, but doesn’t tell Horus that the emperor is only being worshiped (against his will, I might add) BECAUSE of this civil war. Horus is healed, slowly plotting the downfall of the emperor by rallying the other Primarchs who hold grudges against the emperor. When he says “you lied to your sons and kept secrets” he’s referring to the fact that the emperor told NO ONE about chaos. He believed that chaos was only dangerous if you knew about it and actively sought it out…so he didn’t even tell his sons about chaos…one of the greatest justifications the emperor actually did.
Nice trip on this universe ! next fan movie on youtube to discover : The Lord Inquisitor : it will give you a glimpse of Inquisition and scale ... - Books : time to dive in Horus Collection 1 and 2 - music : Mechanicum soundtrack, Legio Symphonica on youtube - RUclips channel : warrior tier !
You know how 40k is a tabletop game? Horus Heresy (some people also call it 30k or Age of Darkness) has one too with its own line of minis and rules separate from 40k, even having models for - and letting you play as - the Primarchs themselves. The reason being that a lot of the stuff in 30k was lost by the time 40k happens, so even marines look different because their armor was changed over time, and factions like the Adeptus Mechanicus (called Mechanicum in 30k) and Imperial Army had more weird robots and weapons they don't in 40k, so 30k let's you play in that time period. All that to say, every tabletop game Games Workshop makes usually has a launch trailer to celebrate it's new edition. That Horus Heresy trailer was for the launch of latest edition of that game.
Horus being that big is only natural, being a god. If Space Marines are demigods, The Emperor is God himself, Horus is basicslly the fallen angel Lucifer
See the problem with making 40k a TV series or movie is the lore. While yes, it's all there for you to pull from , the problem is that you need to actually stay somewhat true to it, or it all falls apart. Unfortunately, Hollywood thinks they are better at telling stories than the people who have been telling them for years and built the IPs fanbase. That's why we all got our fingers crossed for Henry Cavill getting it off the ground since he wants to stay true to the source material. Hope that was a helpful answer
Horus was so big for 2 reasons, 1 he's a Primarch, they're all bigger than the space marines and 2, he swelled with the power of chaos. As a very long term Warhammer 40k fan I would seriously recommend reading at least the first 3 books of the Horus Heresy series; Horus Rising, False Gods and Galaxy In Flames (they're also available as audiobooks). I know that books aren't the favourite medium for a lot of people but there is so much information in them that even IF there were film or tv adaptations you wouldn't get the whole picture.
I think you would also enjoy other channels that do warhammer content, If you want fan made lore friendly stories, look up Warrior Tier and Vox in the Void. There was a good animation made a while back on the Guardsman regiment. The Death Korps of Krieg, staring The Kriegers and their Jacked super horses, the Cadian Armored division, and a few Dark Angeles. If you want full-length character stories with voiced character dialog, then the Amber King is your guy.
Why is he so big? Well, the primarchs be big bois. Simple as.
Primarchs are big bois. Warp juice makes them even bigger bois
@@SemiOmni314 Plus he is in his Armor that makes him look even bigger giving him another half foot to a foot in height.
@DeeBeeGeek yeah, essentially ALL of the primarch's, with the exception of Vulkan of the salamanders, are all around 9-10 feet tall on average. Horus in the trailer here, is also juiced to the gills with Chaos/warp energy, making him even bigger
Have you seen their father, he is the biggest boy.
@@parkermorris3151 Isn't Alpharius and Omegon short Bois? That's what I was told when I asked my friends back in the day about how the Marines of the Alpha Legion could pretend to be them.
Primarchs are generally a lot bigger than your average space marines, with the exception of Alpha legion's Primarch being the shortest.
@@haden7611 and also Alpha legionaries are taller than other marines
@@Plague-speaker So that they are the same size as their primarchs. And looks like them as well.
@@QuayNemSorr basically, though it needs to be noted that Alpharius’ special power is fading. Not like Corax, he’s visible, but unrenarkable, not drawing attention
I'm pretty sure Horus is also wearing terminator armor, which is bulkier than normal space marine armor. Sort of between normal and a dreadnought.
@@jts8053 all primarchs wear custom armor, the marks don’t really apply. Though Horus’ armor is very tarminator-like
The two missing Primarchs or Legions has no real explanation, they're simply there so people can create their own Legion/Chapter and have it be technically canon.
The in-canon explanation though is that the two missing Primarchs and Legions were expunged from existence for doing something so awful their entire existence was forgotten, and that's literally all we have in canon lol
There is a bit more to it than that (but not much) and it's not clear that they did (or at least both did) something awful either. A few little extras:
- They are known as the Forgotten and the Purged.
- The Space Wolves are implied to have been involved in the dissolution of both legions - the Space Wolves have a reputation as the Emperor's executioners.
- It's implied they were lost fighting an advanced Xenos race known as the Rangda (see Rangdan Xenocides).
The Your Dudes angle to the missing legions was not their original purpose, nor is it currently. While there was a time where GW basically said "sure you can homebrew them if you want", the original designers came up with the idea simply as some lost history, because ten millennia is a long-ass time. And in the current era the setting and even the legions themselves have been given enough context that making your own head canons no longer works.
I forgot which book it was Pre-Heresy, but Sanguinius admitted to Horus that one of the reasons why he was so obsessed in looking for the cure for the Red Thirst was because he was afraid that he and his Legion would become like the missing Primarchs. So a malfunctioning gene-seed was also a theory of why the two had been either killed or erased.
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Though you can still fanfic your way into making a new legion if you want, nobody will stop you from painting your Astartes what you want and then giving they some unique lore.
@@Jackalos1 ITs also implied that parts of at least one of the legions was folded into the Ultramarines ..
The Earth is called Terra because it's the formal latin name of Earth.
Like in real life. Today.
Same with the moon, it's formal latin name is Luna.
Course this is because it's derived from the original Latin, so many Latin based languages refer to them by those names as well.
huh, in some languages it is still luna
@@vadman5537well yeah cause luna is Latin and the places that still call the moon luna are generally romance language/descended from Latin, like Spanish, Italian etc...
Terra is literally the Latin word for Earth
@@roguefenixC55 my language still calls them both Terra and Luna, or Lúa depending on the regional variant
Its the latin names for earth and moon... but also Terra is Earth in my language in Portuguese... so for me Terra, is Terra ( earth) as i ever known i figure is the same in Spanish
Helsreach. Yes, the whole thing.
But one episode at a time, so we can talk about it
The motive is simple: he was lied to and corrupted by Chaos. Yes, the Emperor kept the nature of the warp and chaos from them, because he thought no belief = no power for the chaos gods. So chaos used that to manipulate Horus, basically saying "if he lied about that, what else may he have lied about?" and then convincing him that he is secretly super evil and that only the Gods are worthy to be served. Most chaos marines stilll believe it.
Also creating the narrative that Big E making him the Warmaster and in charge of all the strategic elements of the great crusade was essentially giving Horus the finger and stealing the glory of battle from him, and alienating him from the other legions.
They also showed him the 40k future and made him belief that this was the emperors plan and not that it will be the result of the HH
@@matsudoambition2509this. he was lied to by being shown the truth. He had a vision of the imperium today, where the galaxy is horrible, big E is worshipped as a god, and Horus is utterly forgotten. In his attempt to to keep this dark future from happening Horus accidentally caused it to be so.
@@dimanosov5393 Jep, they turned it into a self fullfilling prophecy, or to say it in Palpatines words :"Ironic"
He also never told them he himself got his powers from the chaos gods and that the primarcs were created with the seeds of demonic princes
12:17 and 12:30 are trailers from Total War: Warhammer, which is about the fantasy side. The trailers for that game are almost all S-Tier (edit: the game is also S-Tier), and theres a ton of em. They're seperate universes but with a basic understanding of 40k you can easily jump in. A fantasy tangent sometime down the road would be awesome to see.
Rats with guns yes yes! sneaky sneaky. You smart smart!
Petition for him to watch "The Last Church" explains a lot about the emporers mindset and how it all began
@@t2-scoops436 great shout! A fantastic short story and gives a great insight into to the emperors mindset genius and also arrogance !
Many, me included, think that what he said was a coverup for the real reason of banning religion (as it was stated that, while chaos can feed off religion, it mostly feeds from emotions, but religion is also stated multiple times that it's used as the biggest gate to reality by chaos to have a foothold on a world, and corrupt people around, a single corrupt or possessed citizen will corrupt others and do a ritual to summon Cthulhu like daemons and others.)
Why the coverup? Simple chaos corruption again, people get crazy or corrupted when they simply witness their symbols or hear strange noises, that's why it's a secret even to primarchs.
I know what a lot of people have to say about the Horus Heresy, and that is :."Fuck you Erebus!"
that trailer was for the second edition of the horus heresy tabletop. the launch trailers for 9th and 10th edition 40k the main game, and for the recent Age of Sigmar edition, the fantasy setting are also of similar quality
Never forget the heroes of Istvaan III.
Or Ryalnor who scored them that one last "Fuck You" to the traitors.
‘You can never be forgiven for the things that you’ve done, and now it falls to my hand to end the prodigal son!’
The Shattered Legions, never forget 🫡
Warhammer 40k is incredible, but once you've learned all you can, you want more. I do suggest if you (Dee) get "tired" or "bored" of Warhammer 40k, check out Warhammer fantasy, its cool.
Skaven gang upvotes-supports this recommendation-request, yes-yes!
good call
The Horus Heresy trailer is for the 30k tabletop game
Those giant machines are Titans. You may be remembering Knights from Bricky’s videos. Knights are a lot smaller- operated by a single person. Titans are typically operated by a crew of many people and are the largest engines of war fielded by the Imperium on the battlefield.
4:20 the trailer was for the Horus Heresy Tabletop. Which I think had been around for a while alongside 40k but was getting a new edition? (I'm sure someone will clarify)
No although the Horus Heresy has been a concept since the start, the game was brand new and the trailer was for its first or second edition
@@MrNotyobusiness Did a bit of searching. It was for the 2nd edition of the Horus Heresy game. 1st edition was back in 2017 through Forge World according to lexicanum
@@berserk06 Yes, it was for 2nd edition. 1st edition started in 2017, but the Horus Heresy game has been around since 2012 where it first used 40k rules (6th and 7th edition).
@9:30 because initially they were supposed to be “make your own”
Legions, but proved too much of a lore headache. So later editions added that these two Primarchs did something SO HORRIBLE, that any and all traces of them and their legions were wiped from existence. Physically and mentally.
It’s a story that’s likely not going to be told.
My Head canon, they tried to use female Space marines and fill them with their GeneSEED 😅
Someone tell this man to watch Helsreach immediately
Hels yeah
Yes
Weshammer does great videos, they're more in depth but he manages to make them very digestible and easy to understand
“The Awakening” is the new best 40k animation. It is a full fan-made movie. Also glad you found the Sandman on Terra, he is one of the best 40k youtubers
10:32 that pic is a book cover "The Master of Mankind"
Isyander and kota make amazing lore videos, I would heavily recomend watching their work.
I'd recommend he listen to it on his own time.
@@TheHeroBleeder Fair enough, they can run a bit long
i would first suggest Adeptus Ridiculous, and then Isyander and Koda, coz Adeptus Ridiculous have horus heresy better....until I-K make that 12 hour Heresy Video
Facts, they are fantastic
Horus is so much bigger then any other regular space marine, because he's hand-crafted from the Emperor's his own freaking self genetic material. If the Emperor is like a god and his size is like a giant, then his sons primarchs (Horus is one of them) are demigods and half his size, as space marines are half their primarchs size (because they are hand-crafted from their primarchs and human genetic material) and the humans half regular space marine size.
I’ve understood it as the size comes from the demonic demon seeds they carry, with most only having half a one but Horus has a whole
4:07 it's a trailer for TABLETOP game, yes, for plastic little toy-soldiers with THIS quality and THIS lore (100+ books about it). Warhammer 30k is subtype of Warhammer 40k.
Damn I'm early
if you want to try other 40K games.
i suggest Shootas, blood, & teef as one of the good one.
its side scrolling action shooter like metal slug or contra, but we're playing as ork.
the game is shit ton of ork shenanigans.
the game tho, quite pricey for small content, i suggest to wait for sale.
or you can watch bricky review of the game
also, maybe boltgun too
Mechanicus, Dawn of War and Battlefleet gothic would be also good 40k pics, maybe going for the mandalore gaming reviews too ^^
You should check the lore for the Leagues of Votann
They are a new/returning faction that was not referenced in the "all factions" video, as that video is no longer up-to-date with the current events
You should best check WesHammer's video on them
They first appeared in the 1st and 2nd editions of the game, called Squats back then, but were discontinued due to being too similar to the Imperial Guard and Space Marines, and having underdeveloped lore.
They made however a huge comeback in the 9th edition and the current 10th edition, with greatly improved lore, under the new name of Leagues of Votann (the name "Squat" was revealed to be a derogatory name given to them by the |mperium of Man)
Basically, just as the Eldar are Space Elves, the Leagues of Votann are Space Dwarves
This
Avg human = 6ft
Space Marines = 8ft
Custodes = 9ft
Primarch = 9.5--11ish ft
Big E > Anyone else in the room at all times. Likely due to vanity.
People forget that in the beginning waaay back in the 1970's this was a toy company. It made a miniature game. Miniature games in themselves are a niche genre of games, especially in 1970's. So they began the creation of this "lore" to sell miniatures. Part of this "lore" was the 20 Legions. They omitted 2 legions so that "players new and old" could create their own fan based lore to base their armies on. for creative purposes. Ultramarines are blue. Meh, I want bright Silver Chrome ones and I'm gonna call them the "Silver Hounds" and they'll have Chapter master Barksalot, from the geneseed of the lost 2nd legion primark, Lassius Rintintin. That why there are 2 missing legions lost to history for all time.
Along the way as the hobby and lore grew, and authors wrote their novels in the universe, it kinda become codified.
"Where's the 2nd and 18th legions?"
*Click of a bolter against your temple, "Care to repeat that question, Citizen?"
However, the hobby needs to grow and appeal to a newer audience, thus we get the second foundings, successor chapters and now we have the ultima founding.
It's how homebrew space marine chapters are done. Mine are from the Age of Apostasy, 36th Millennium. A splinter from the Black Templars to chase down Vandire forces but lost in the warp.
To answer some of your questions, the artwork here is about 99% official art. A good chunk of it is from the Horus Heresy book covers and others are from the card game. The Slaanesh video you liked and that cinematic with the Greater Daemon of Nurgle with maggots in its mouth were from Warhammer Fantasy, specifically the Total War: Warhammer 3 game, both of which are worth checking out imo. These cinematics still fit because daemons and Chaos in general remain largely the same across both universes.
Yeah. That map of the Realm of Chaos, I think was from either Warhammer Fantasy Battle, or Age of Sigmar, cos I remember the Eye of Terror had fans going "Wait a minute, are the two games in the same Universe?"
I think GW said it was a Easter Egg, I think the Artist just wanted to mess with the fans.
@@Believer1980 Yeah, pretty sure you can find that map in the 7th Edition Army Book for Daemons of Chaos. Probably not accurate for 40K though.
I recommend looking at Luetin09's videos about everything 40K, he'll give you proper rundowns regarding the lore. :-)
Well said, I'm thinking he made not enjoy it as much though being that luetin09 vid have a more serious academic tone.
That recap of the Heresy would've been a lot better if Sandman wasn't making jokes that only make sense to 40K fans who already know everything every five seconds.
I highly recommend (if not already on your list):
Invicta- 2 part 'True Size of a Tyranid Invasion' and 2 part 'True Size of a Space Marine Chapter' videos
Both will help give a ton of context for your Space Marine 2 playthrough.
If you want super in depth and highly produced lore, Leutin09 is an amazing channel.
If you want amazing speculation and theories on fringe topics, Sandman is the way to go.
If you want some lolz, with a broad intro to the lore, pancreasnowork and Majorkill are goated.
Seriously if you ever got asked the question how would kind of describe the warp, watch "Event Horizon". What could happen to a ship travelling through the warp. Its the best 40k film that's not 40k. Many of us see it as a 40k precursor humanities early early dabbling into FTL tech. All round great Sci-fi horror film.
Yep, that film is a PSA on why you never enter the Warp without a Gellar Field to protect you.
One of the script writers has in fact confirmed that they took inspiration from Warhammer for the movie, on a Twitter Q&A. One of his co-writers was a Warhammer 40k table top player and he started telling them about the whole Warp travel, that lead them to write the story of the movie.
@@doublep1980 Fun-ish fact, back when I was studying English literature A-Level, my teacher made as watch Event Horizon as an example of Gothic Traditions in modern film. We also watched Men in Black for the same thing.
@@doublep1980 I did not know that. That explains everything the 40k influence in the film it was just too blatant. It just re-afirms my stance on Event Horizon its a 40k film any body who disagrees is a heretic and can fight me on it. 🤣
The cinematic is for a boxed set of plastic toy soldiers.. and rule set.. to fight the battles of the Horus Heresy set in the year 30,000 (round about).
Hey @deebeegeek the reason horus is so big than other space marine is because he's a primarch all the primearchs tower above theirs sons , and the giant robot,s are warlord class titans and there is more 40k content called Pariah Nexus it's a good story
Its a trailer for the new edition of Horus heresy the miniature game
9:49 also perfect explanation of potential reason about 2 and 11 is on arbiter ians channel. 15 minutes and you will be satisfied completely, and blown away by how DEEP and misterious that thing is
What's impossible to imagine is the time difference. Our current civilization is only 2,000 to what, maybe 4-6,000 years old? Warhammer is 39,000 years into the future. It's doubtful Humanity will even still exist as a Species by that time at the rate we're going.
Finally, Horus Heresy reaction. This sub series of 30k has 100+ novels/books and I read them ALL - and it's awesome 18+ years long series experience. They need to make a movie/series like GoT/LotR with a billion+ dollar budget. But hope is the first step on the road to disappointment...
"Death is all around us now: the death of the body, the death of the spirit, but most of all the death of hope."
"The hand of the Arch-Traitor struck, and Hell followed with it..." even the quotes as metal as fuck.
Ok on another note, when I worked at HQ there were some talks about movies. However, GW is very cautious about their IP. All talks failed because GW’s stipulations about how their IP should be used. If Henry Caville manages to get the Amazon TV series off the ground and close to what Fallout managed it will be amazing! I suggest you visit a Warhammer store. If possible visit Warhammer World cause damn it’s amazing.
@Deebee
Don't worry about the 2nd and 11th legion.
Originally GamesWorkshop just proclaimed that all knowledge of them had been purged
to leave two blank Legions that players could use to make up something for themselves.
All Legions/Chapters have a distinct colour scheme.
But for those who want to get creative with the painting,
or want to try another mix of units, the "purged knowledge" allows them to proclaim their chapter as part of the 2nd or 11th.
It also gives a possibility to make up all kinds of stories.
If you are interested in an in detail look at the timeline of events in 40k from the Imperium's perspective, than you should check out luetin09's Emperor of Man series. At least the first two videos. Should clarify a lot of things you are missing and/or confused on.
Yes, the 1 and 2 of the Emperor of mankind videos by luetin are masterpieces
Couldn't agree more. Once you're finished with the necessary evil that is brickys videos, these should be next. Theyre required viewing for people new to the setting. It goes in depth into how humanity came to be the way it is now. Includes a lot about the horus heresy as thats one of the most important events in 40k.
I nearly sent this to you but I wasn't sure if the memes would stop you from understanding what happened. Clearly I was wrong 😅
If you want some more animated fan videos that are more on the visual action side of things then i URGE you to watch the Warhammer 40k SFM Animations by a RUclipsr called Sodaz. Unfortunately a few things happened while back and it resulted in having those videos removed from his channel HOWEVER you can still find reuploads of them that have a sizeable viewer count. They're about 2 - 8 ish minutes long so you could get like 2 or 3 videos in one reaction video. Sodaz was defo one of best 40k animators the community had for a a while and i recommend you react to those videos.
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A channel I watch, Isyander & Koda, keep talking how if they ever do a Horus Heresy video its going to be 12 hours. There is just so much to it.
I am guessing people have already yelled at you to go listen/watch/react to Luetin09 and Baldermort's Guide to Warhammer. Luetin09 will give you a deep substance of content and well Baldermort just buckle up cozy into your chair and enjoy the ride.
Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are two separate but related Universes btw. Warhammer is high fantasy, 40k is Sci fi mixed with some fantasy elements. The chaos gods also exist in both and are pretty much the same.
Horus is a Primarch so hes built different. All primarches are like 10 -12 ft tall, space marines are 8ft. Just like a human would stand no chance against a space marine, its the same with a space marine standing no chance with a primarch. In one book the Lion who is a Primarch for the dark angles takes on a squad of chaos space marines with no weapon and wins for example lol.
7:00 Horus is referring to the mystery around how the emperor made the primarchs. The current cannon has only revealed half of the emperors plan, and it is currently unknown what the emperor did during his time in the warp-only that he emerged with the power to create his sons.
My theory is humanitys countless years of worshiping fake gods had begun to manifest a nexus in the warp that would emerge in the far future as a 5th chaos god. The emperor eliminates all religion to slow its growth, enters the warp to strip it of different attributes he attuned to the "18" primarchs, and once placed on the golden throne-begins the millenia long process of assimilating humanitys accumulating psychic energy so that he would become the mind of the chaos god. Rather then humanity birthing a second slinesh, our collective effect on the warp would be put to use elevating the emperor to godhood instead.
Horus sees the future of the imperium becoming a cult in worship of the emperor (this is cannon) he learns of the emperor's plan to ascend to godhood and assumes everything the emperor has done was for the pursuit of total power.
Can I suggest the Templin institute videos on 40k they are very informative.
FYI Horus was possessed by all four of the chaos gods and mentally corrupted
9:45 Well, citizen. I will answer all of your questions, but first, just turn to face wall.
*unholsters bolt pistol*
dee, try and find a copy of the art of the horus heresy or the art of warhammer 40000, u may be able to find them somewhere to buy on the internet, both those books are big collections of official art
The cinematics you asked about are trailers from Total War Warhammer 3 Chaos faction trailers
You should see siege of terra the book of choyer it will tell it in a better detail
Bloody hell! My ears are bleeding!😆 ‘Lupecar’ you pronounced it wrong. It's not ‘Lupegal’ it's ‘Lupecar’
It’s Lupercal…
Basically, for the two missing legions, GW originally intended for them to be player insert characters, so the player could effectively make their own loyalist or traitor legion to play on the tabletop. However, fans did not gel with this very well, so now they are hidden behind classified documents about horrors encountered pre-heresy
@@M4flyer that's actually a very common misconception; they were originally written into the lore when the Primarchs and the Heresy were a lore tidbit within the wider history/mythology of the Imperium (with many Primarchs essentially just being names with no character attached to them.)
The original main designer for Warhammer 40k, Rick Priestley, has said on several occasions that the 2nd and 11th were just them trying to inject mystery into the setting, hearkening back to the lost Roman Legions of antiquity.
TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER 1-3 Trailer
Time for next level, time for Luetin09
Someone needs to show this man the height chart.
Praise Big E for this upload
I've seen some people recommend Death of Hope, and I honestly think it's not worth watching. It barely has a story, and focuses mostly on horror/shock value. The creator also has some gatekeeper-type statements about "modern tides" and "true fans" that really put off a lot of people, myself included.
Just to get a "feel" for grit and grime intensity of the 40k universe I recommend the following fan films...#1 Astartes, #2 Guardsman #3 Death Korps of Krieg
There was actually a straight to video film of 40k, (and a German fan film from the 2008 we dont talk about but at least they tried on the costumes). The official film Is called Ultramarines: A Warhammer 40,000 Movie, sadly some of the CGI doesnt hold up to modern standards so they use a lot of sandstorms to avoid having to animate beyond a few meters vision.
I mean. If you want some very good details on lore videos, "Pancreasnowork" does a very good job in briefing on the big points of the universe, while giving enough details without overwhelming you and keeping it entertaining.
Just ignore the fantasy Warhammer stuff, for now.
The trailer is for the Horus Heresy tabletop game. Its an offshoot of the main 40k tabletop, with similar rules, but all the playable characters and such being from the heresy
Motiff:
1. When recovering from warp inflicted mortal wound (yo, fuck Erebus!) he got manipulated by chaos gods and that pos into seeing vision of Emperors goal being achieving godhood at the cost of his sons, which stood in complete opposition to glorified atheism he was spreading across the galaxy when conquering
2. There were doubts among space marines what will become of them once galaxy is conquered - who needs that many superhuman warriors in time of peace? Especially that their prototypes have been genocides after their use have ended;
3. Emperor lied to his sons about nature of being in the warp - being convinced that the knowledge of chaos is what corrupts, he told them that demons are only warp aliens, and withheld information about the big 4;
4. Whom he had petitioned, tricked and/or made deal with to get power and knowledge necessary to create primarchs.
Imagine this:
You don’t know what will become of you once you’ll cease being useful to your father who have killed his pawns off before. You find out that not only instead of aliens in the warp there are actual gods, and he took from them the power to create you and your brothers, power that now he decrees wrong and too dangerous for you to use, and you receive vision that he wants to become god himself.
How the fck are you NOT turning traitor
Space Marines are like 2.5m to 3m tall, Primarchs are like 4m - 5m tall (Exception for Alfarius who was the size of a regular Astartes), the Emperor is like 6m tall
Imagine knowing all that and THEN playing Space Marine / Dawn of War series 🔥
''And there is no end'' - some 40[k?] years of lore to cover, that's probably not a 'talk in a bar' kind of conversation 🤣
About the moneymaker side of it, Space Marine 2 is a piece truth in that argument, we MAY have something with Amazon and if that works out we MAY have Henry Cavill as posterboy for some crazy warhammer stuff and we can all die horrible being eaten alive by Slaneesh daemons [means that we'll have bliss and joy being life] 🔥🔥🔥
It's pronounced Roboute Guilliman (Ro-Boo-Teh GiL-Li-Man) you pronounced it properly on the first one.
Sandman has a great vid on the missing two primarchs, you should check that out. There is a book of that combines all the artwork of the heresy, you might want to check that out, you should also check out the 40k art from across the last 35 years or so, it's a real trip man.
Horus Is a PRIMARCH.... THAT'S WHY HE'S LARGER than his legion...
I VERY MUCH suggest watching "Counterpoints40K" version of "Horus Heresy" cinematic trailer reaction.
He's very knowledgable in terms of lore, and while explaining trailer itself he menaged to summarize huge chunk of Horus lore to explain current situation and why those events even took place
So a few things....first up, the "lies" Big E said could have been several things.
1) the existence of the chaos gods
2) what Big E was working on back on Terra
3) the open but never confirmed secret that Big E made a deal with the Chaos gods to make the primarchs, then never filled his side of the bargin...though for that to be the case, GW would need to confirm that rather than hit at it....this could also be the "stole power from the gods" part as well....
Neckbeard Incels don’t want 40k to go Mainstream because it means that their toy-soldier game would have people who are more diverse playing it
There is an official animated movie called Ultramarine that came out in 2010. It was voiced by some terrific British actors including John Hurt, Terrance Stamp and Sean Pertwee. The movie is just ok though.
So, if you're interested in more focused lore stuff, look up Adeptus Ridiculous. It's a pod cast that Bricky as well as DK dimontes and Shy Lilily put together that really dives into EVERYTHING. Not great for reaction vids tho.
Horus primary motive is 'daddy issues' he felt like the Emperor cared more about normal humans than his 'sons' and that he had abandoned the Great Crusade and them to work on his personal science projects. There was then some secondary issues; feeling that the bureaucrats that came in to administer the conquered worlds had too much power, that the Emperor hadnt told them about Chaos and the true nature of the Warp and Psychic powers (only giving them the scientific explanation) and that the Crusade was losing steam as resources were being diverted to administering the conquered worlds rather than to reinforce and maintain the speed of the Crusades advance. What tipped him over the edge though was being given a daemon possessed sword as a gift from the Emperors Children (who had already long switched to Chaos as much as a century earlier because the Emperor wouldn't let them worship him) that gnawed at his soul and slowly poisoned him with corruption.
One of the things about Warhammer 40k lore is that you don't really need to know all of it. There are a handful of more important and foundational events such as The War in Heaven, the Birth of Slaanesh, and the Horus Heresy (which has a few of its own such as the Drop Site Massacre and the Siege of Terra) but the rest is a vast and complex set of stories and info presented mostly through novels and the rule books themselves (including rulebooks for older editions of the game that could be at least 20 years old). Most people who dive into 40K lore will a)start by going deep into the lore for a specific army/faction (usually the one they are playing) and/or b) find a particular author or book series that they really like or have heard good things about and go through that. Plan C is to just find the wiki's and just try to vacuum up all the info but, without something your really looking for (i.e. "What is the whole deal with the Thousand Suns and Magnus the Red") I don't recommend it.
To answer the 2nd and 11th Primarchs question: in the beginning, Games Workshop (the company that makes 40K) reserved 2 primarch and their legions as “having had all records of them and their legions purged from the imperial records” for reasons that are only ever vaguely described as being so bad that if the truth ever got out it would be the end of not just the Imperium, but also the death of any hope of a unified humanity ever existing. Which considering that some people know the truth about what Horus did, it must have been pretty bad. There are some hints that one fell to mind controlling aliens, and the other might be locked in a cell below the Golden Palace on Terra, but it’s intentionally left unconfirmed.
The real reason is GW wanted to allow players to customize their miniatures and come up with their own primarchs/legions, so they saved two numbers so that there would be one loyalist and one traitor slot for fans to fill with their OC characters and armies.
The Helsreach audiobook saga animated by Ricard Boylan. It's a 2.5 hour long, so be prepared! ⭐🙂👍
you should absolutely react to TIMELINE of the 40K UNIVERSE by Trazyn the Infinite
Horus is big because he is a Primarch in Terminator armour.... And this trailer is for the tabletop game of Horus Heresy, like the 40K game but set 10K years before, during the events of the Heresy..... It's a historical wargame for 40K players.
Everything is canon in 40K.... And nothing is. The entire setting is presented as stories from a biased perspective, so multiple things can be true at the same time. For the Imperium, Horus was corrupted by Chaos and turned evil. For the Traitors, the Emperor is alleged to have made a deal with Chaos for power, but then not kept his side of it, which angered them and ultimately led to the Heresy.... but obviously very few people know if this actually happened and they are not talking.
before 3rd edition the 2nd and 11th where left ambiguous so players could make up their own space marine legion/ traitor legion. but then in i think 4th edition they reorganized space marines into chapters rather than legions, and had the "second founding" so it wasn't really necessary within cannon anymore. the space wolves and the night lords where kept in reserve in the great crusade and where used to hunt down any imperial forces that the emperor wasn't happy with, its how leman Russ got the name "the emperors executioner" and the fan cannon back in the day was the the 2nd and 11th where annulated by the space wolves before the great crusade was over and the Horus heresy actually started. though im not sure how much of that was added to the ongoing cannon
Watch The Awakening fan-animation. Dark Angels Space-marines fighting Necrons for 50 minutes +. Also, Play Boltgun with DLC, a old-school shooter.
Watch the trailer for The Lord Inquisitor by Erasmus Brosdau. Some of the most epic video you will ever see! ⭐🙂👍
According the lore, Leman Russ was tied 2nd for victories in the heresy with Lion. Lion would normally pull ahead in the victory count which is where their rivalry started. Horus had the most.
Russ was always a great general, too many black library writers decided to piss on him for fun.
I highly recommend reacting to "IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT - Iron Warriors" by Warrior Tier. It is so awesome :O
they have made a good bunch of awesome videos :)
When the Emperor finally came face to face with Horus during the siege of Terra he couldn't bring himself to kill his once favored son. In giving himself up to Horus he was dealt a near fatal blow but before Horus could finish the job Sanguinius intervened. Horus beat the ever living fuck out of Sanguinius and brutally killed him before the Emperors eyes. In a moment of rage and sorrow and without holding back the Emporer lashed out at Horus and blew him to smithereens, thus ending him. The Emperor being gravely injured was taken back to the palace of terra and preserved on the golden throne where he remains 10,000 years later. A fading corpse feeding on the souls of some 1000 human psykers daily, just to get by.
So the first few Horus Heresy books talk about the WHY and HOW. Basically, spoilers, Horus was stabbed with a Nurgle blade that was slowly killing him. It was breaking him down faster than his genetics could heal. In a last ditch effort to heal him, the Word Bearers take Horus to a temple to heal, where chaos twists reality and paints the emperor as a despot that plans to murder the primarchs once the Great Crusade is over. Chaos tells him that “in the future, the imperium worships the emperor like a god” which is true, but doesn’t tell Horus that the emperor is only being worshiped (against his will, I might add) BECAUSE of this civil war. Horus is healed, slowly plotting the downfall of the emperor by rallying the other Primarchs who hold grudges against the emperor. When he says “you lied to your sons and kept secrets” he’s referring to the fact that the emperor told NO ONE about chaos. He believed that chaos was only dangerous if you knew about it and actively sought it out…so he didn’t even tell his sons about chaos…one of the greatest justifications the emperor actually did.
They dont give a crap about speding a 100million$ on a movie if they can sell you a sprou of 10 cents for 60$
You NEED to check out "if the emperor had a text to speach device" ! It's absolutely AMAZING and HILARIUS!
Nice trip on this universe ! next fan movie on youtube to discover : The Lord Inquisitor : it will give you a glimpse of Inquisition and scale ... - Books : time to dive in Horus Collection 1 and 2 - music : Mechanicum soundtrack, Legio Symphonica on youtube - RUclips channel : warrior tier !
You know how 40k is a tabletop game? Horus Heresy (some people also call it 30k or Age of Darkness) has one too with its own line of minis and rules separate from 40k, even having models for - and letting you play as - the Primarchs themselves. The reason being that a lot of the stuff in 30k was lost by the time 40k happens, so even marines look different because their armor was changed over time, and factions like the Adeptus Mechanicus (called Mechanicum in 30k) and Imperial Army had more weird robots and weapons they don't in 40k, so 30k let's you play in that time period.
All that to say, every tabletop game Games Workshop makes usually has a launch trailer to celebrate it's new edition. That Horus Heresy trailer was for the launch of latest edition of that game.
Horus being that big is only natural, being a god.
If Space Marines are demigods, The Emperor is God himself, Horus is basicslly the fallen angel Lucifer
See the problem with making 40k a TV series or movie is the lore. While yes, it's all there for you to pull from , the problem is that you need to actually stay somewhat true to it, or it all falls apart. Unfortunately, Hollywood thinks they are better at telling stories than the people who have been telling them for years and built the IPs fanbase.
That's why we all got our fingers crossed for Henry Cavill getting it off the ground since he wants to stay true to the source material. Hope that was a helpful answer
Horus was so big for 2 reasons, 1 he's a Primarch, they're all bigger than the space marines and 2, he swelled with the power of chaos. As a very long term Warhammer 40k fan I would seriously recommend reading at least the first 3 books of the Horus Heresy series; Horus Rising, False Gods and Galaxy In Flames (they're also available as audiobooks). I know that books aren't the favourite medium for a lot of people but there is so much information in them that even IF there were film or tv adaptations you wouldn't get the whole picture.
I think you would also enjoy other channels that do warhammer content, If you want fan made lore friendly stories, look up Warrior Tier and Vox in the Void. There was a good animation made a while back on the Guardsman regiment. The Death Korps of Krieg, staring The Kriegers and their Jacked super horses, the Cadian Armored division, and a few Dark Angeles.
If you want full-length character stories with voiced character dialog, then the Amber King is your guy.