The galactic rim is the border of the milky way, our galaxy. 40k almost never mentions what happens outside de milky way beyond some stories here and there, or how the tyranids came from outside our galaxy The shaman sacrifice and the star baby (Big E) is one of the mythos about his creation, we are not sure if that's the real one but is one of the most plausible Press F for Sanguinius 55:27 In the books that fight is Anime tier, they're literally moving at speed the people around can't even follow with their eyes, jumping in between dimensions, other planets, non-euclidean folds in space, time, etc they even play yugi-oh (the 30k version), it's what happens when the most powerful psyker with 50k years of experience and the champion of the 4 chaos gods with all their blessings fight. Simply insane
Regarding "Big E" it's suggested that he has appeared throughout human history as pivotal figures (literally Jesus in this context) and has shaped events so that humanity would make it to where they did during the golden age of technology. What he didn't anticipate was how much Chaos would mess with his plans. There are several theories on the Emperor's power and where it comes from, ranging from "Tzeench literally planned and schemed for him to exist so he could weaken the other Chaos gods in the great game" to "The Orks believe him to be a powerful god, and because so many of them believe he is a god they willed it to be true." The only things we KNOW for sure is that he is a perpetual, that he's currently "alive" technically on the golden throne, and that he foresaw a lot of what happened, but he was not a god or perfect. Thanks to the End and the Death, we also know that he COULD have been a god, but turned down that power because his birth as a god would've destroyed humanity. We know that he "took" power from the Chaos gods to create the primarchs (whether it was stolen or given isn't clear). Anything else is up to interpretation, down to his appearance even. He looks different to different people. Custodes see him as an equally sized man. The Sisters of Silence see him as a small frail child. He shows what people want to see through psychic projection. I personally think that he was manipulated by Tzeench, who has plans within plans to use him to weaken Khorne specifically so that he can overtake the others in the great game.
The shaman sacrifice story is from a old book and it's hard to tell if it's still canon. Regardless, it's essentially the only explanation we ever got, although imho it's pretty much confirmed that the Emperor has been alive since prehistoric times even if I'm not sure if Anatolia being his birthplace is mentioned again.
Yeah his three part series should have been followed up on with the Horus heresy for other primarchs view points. His three part video was one reason I got into 40k… highly recommended even if some parts are outdated due to the new books
Baldermort, Leutin, or Oculus Imperia. All 3 give the more grimdark feel of 40k lore, and don’t put themselves in front of the camera like Wes, Bricky, Majorkill
Soon as I saw that I said out loud "that is not what Luetin believes!" something I really like about Luetin is that he always stresses that history in warhammer 40k should be viewed similarly to our own history where it's hard to know for sure what is myth and fact.
12 shaman in a trenchcoat, or "the captain planet technique" as i prefer, is the most widely believed version and the only one the emperor himself has in any way even remotely come close to confirming. AND THIS IS JUST ME, I HAVE MINIMAL EVIDENCE FOR THIS- i think Ra Endemyon's mother was right, he's not actually a person. "Big E" is not even THAT GUY, but some kind of insanely advanced super weapon (or AI, or warp entity for that matter) passing itself off as the mythical "Emperor of Mankind". this entity heard about the shamans, their plan, etc... and decided to self-insert, playing the role of the Emperor. it's not impossible given that things like The Angel exist, and i also have reason to believe Big E has been killing/absorbing the other perpetuals to empower itself.
23:40 yeah humanity could snuff out suns with a massive machine, but the necrons have a holographic interface they can simply point to a star and delete it in real life. Necrons are so unbelievably advanced.
I don't even see the star exploding as that impressive. I think a lot of people forget or either take it as granted that the Necrons commonly use their own tesseract pocket dimensions in battle. The Eldar have the Webway, sure, but they didn't make it, it was handed over to them by the Old Ones. The Necrons however made their own dimension. That, and let's not forget the Necron Chronomancers literally control time to the point that if you shoot one with a tank, it could just go "oop, I wasn't harmed by that in *this* timeline!" and just walk away unscathed.
@@lylehigg not only that. The Silent King destroyed all the dangerous weapons of the Necrons after they went to sleep. But the holographic interface that can pretty much warp reality on such a level, nah that is okay. That one is not so dangerous.
@@TheMightyCrucibleKnight184 Not quite, humanity at its peak before the age of darkness (caused by the eldar buggering Slaanesh into existence) was kind of up there, but they still basically to the Eldar (in their prime mind you, not the eldar craftworlds and such) what the Tau are to the Imperium now... getting there, advanced in some ways but behind in the key technologies like interstellar/warp (or for the eldar webway) travel and other fields that would let you become a true galactic power. The Necrons in their prime where so far beyond the Eldar in their prime (shortly before their demise) that its not even funny in terms of technological and scientific understanding of how realspace (as opposed to the dimension of the warp) works and rivaled the eldar's understanding of the warp to the point that the necrons could build tools for closing warp rifts, Cadia hid one such facility and it nearly closed the eye of terror before Abaddon broke the planet which caused a backlash that tore the eye-rift, until then the largest rift in the galaxy, into a streak near bisecting the galaxy in two.
@@accywacky2699 Tbf, Games Workshop have gone on record during interviews where they stated that the three most advanced species in the setting were the Necrons, Humans and Aeldari, but they had different specialties. The Necrons were masters of Realspace tech, the Aeldari were masters of Warp based technology, and humanity were extremely adept at mixing the two, reaching maybe 80%-90% of what the other two species did in their respective fields. Of course, the current Necrons, Humans and Eldar cannot access anything approaching the peak of their technology outside of certain extreme circumstances due to their respective issues. We have seen what happens when they go toe to toe with their best tech however, at least in a broad sense. During the Pariah Nexus, when the Silent King was leading the campaign and activating the Blackstone Pillars, he decided to use some of their old doomsday weapons to fight against the Imperium in an effort to keep the worlds they’d stolen. The Mechanicus weren’t happy about that in the slightest and decided to whip out some of the doomsday shit they’d recovered from the DAoT. It’s unclear what exactly happened, except it lead to a literal stalemate between the two factions, and a hell of a lot of losses on both sides.
The shaman thing creating the emperor is just a theory among many. He might be the last Old One, since he can change what you perceive him as. There’s evidence he changes his size at times, changes his voice, creates golden auras and stuff. He’s pretty much an enigma.
@@dombam2563 when it was published in the realm of chaos lost and the damned in 1990 it was anything but a theory. It was written as 3rd person omniscient narrator, just like the text in a codex that tells you how a space marine chapter functions.
About Cadia: This was extremely shortened. Cadia faced the chaos legions head on, but the onslaught was WAY TOO MUCH for them (and even then, they did not surrender), MANY forces from the imperium, like the Adeptus Astartes, the Adeptus Mechanicus and every single legion available from the Astra Militarum were sent to help Cadia BUT WAS NOT ENOUGH. The battle was so damn entrenched Abaddon had to ultimately sacrifice his precious blackstone fortress and destroy the planet. The chaos legions summoned all kinds of demonic entities into the planet but the cadians resisted HARSHLY, both sides were depleting en-masse, chaos with their unending legions and the mortals fighting fiercely. Breaking the planet was the only way Abaddon could have gotten his victory instead of fighting endlessly. THIS is why it is said "the planet broke before the guard did", meaning "you had to break the planet because you could not break us"... And this is why we cry for Cadia. Cadia stands!
Nah the thing is. The Imperium won the ground engagement, they pushed back Abaddon and nearly killed him, and the Phalanx arrived so the space battle would've eventually been won. Not to mention the Eye of Terror was being shrunk by the effort of Trazyn and Cawl. Chaos at that time was so close to being dealt a massive blow that would've set them back tens of thousands of years but Abaddon threw the Blackstone fortress and completely reversed everything. Even after Abaddon put everything he had against Cadia he still nearly lost and cost them the entire Long War but just that on salty move he did reversed everything about the Imperium.
A real world equivalent of what Erda did would be learning how your spouse plans to send your kids to military school and your solution to this is to open the car doors while going 80mph and yeeting your kids out.
You are on a roll Brother @deebeegeek , I recommend the "wizards and warriors" channel's 9 part playlist on the Horus Heresy. For me, their videos are most comprehensive, detailed and well produced on that event.
The shaman theory alway seem wrong to me. I mean if you can create a being that powerful like that, than the Eldar "which are much more gifted psychically" would have done the same. Especially when they needed a being like that to deal with Slaanesh.
One of the more intriguing possibilities comes from a quote of one of Old Earth's last noble houses that stood against the Emperor during the unification-wars. "You are just a weapon left out of it's box!" Possibly a memetic or biologically constructed weapon used to subjugate enemies through persuasion and charisma rather than force.
@@denkerbosu3551 Its the same thing with the chaos gods I think (as in, the chaos gods would starve without mortals feeding them emotions, yet they still want to kill every mortal). They're just kinda dickheads.
And technically it could be seen as the 'worship of science', which he wanted man to be more dedicated to anyway. Maybe not as MUCH as the martians but yeah
Also, the Emperor got them on his side by repairing machines they could not. Or making machines work they had no idea how. The emperor is the machine god Jesus to the Mechanicus. He is literally viewed as the human personification of the machine god. They named him the Omnissia
9:30 a galaxy is not never ending, the universe might be but not galaxies, there are thousands of galaxy and in a galaxy there's thousands of solar systems. So no a galaxy is just a small fraction of the universe, you are confusing galaxy with universe, The Tyranids was originally from outside of milky way galaxy
Well technically there’s a multiverse with alternative universes & dimensions and they are just not touch upon much yet some have been destroyed by chaos.
my favorite conversation in warhammer 40 k is between guilliman and a high tech priest. guilliman asks. " can he be brought back. " the priest says. " who " causing guilliman to reply with something along the lines of. " we both know who i mean. " the priest responds. " I hope he does not. " gulliman asks " why so. " and the priest says. " all gods are blights on the universe wether they call themselves as such or not. " I am butchering the quote here. dont remember it fully. but thats the rough conversation.
55:00 The Emperor vs Horus fight is insane. They both were so immensely powerful and the duel itself simultaneously spanned multiple planes of existence and through different points in time. I don’t know how it would even be portrayed in animation. It’s one of those “the human mind can’t even comprehend it” type things.
That’s my favourite timeline video but it’s also the most serious. A lot of newcomers prefer the lighthearted approach of Bricky and Wes cause it’s easier to consume
It should be note that The Cult Mechanicus maintains that the Emperor is the physical manifestation of the Machine God and part of a trinity that also includes the Machine God and the Motive Force, this why Cult Mechanicus isn't heresy in the Imperium of Man
That, a model of a belief that is different than the dogma, is per definition a heresy. Like, the only reason people raised Christian or familiar with Christianity don't blink when trinitarianism is involved is because other models of Christian belief were declared heresies and their propagandists killed. It's just that the few ecclesiarchy nerds who realize it exists tend to ignore for political expediancy while most others just think "Omnissiah" is just the tech priests having weird terminology about the emperor.
@@alchemicpink2392 It helps that the Imperial Cult is actually really flexible about local terminology for the Emperor. It's part of why they can be such a seemingly monolithic organization, because they deliberately don't bring up the whole 'The Emperor is the Sun' on a lot of worlds, among other things.
Any other fellow 40K Veterans feel bad and amused at just how much the Drukhari have traumatised our boy DeeBee? XD Granted that is the appropriate reaction to the sweat-gremlins.
@@n4m31355h4dow Well, the Necrons don't have the right tool to fight C'Tan. (Psychic powers.) So, I actually consider the Necrons beating the C'Tan much more impressive. It's like the difference between using kryptonite to beat Superman (Still impressively hard, but expected.) and straight up punching him out. (Absolutely shocking as a feat.)
Erebus, the true architect of the Horus Heresy, is by far my favorite character in 30k. He's so bad it's good. I'd love to see you dive deep into his lore, and that of the Word Bearers during the Great Crusade.
Keep in mind, both this video and Bricky's include a LOT of supposition on the pre imperium timeline! Little to nothing has been directly written about the dark age of technology or the war in heaven in canon, and there are a lot of fan theories floating around that have become so popular that fans have assumed they're true. So, grain of salt.
40:50 The reason is purely rooted in Mars' military power at the time. Going to war with the Cult Mechanicum would've left the Emperor's forces crippled and delay the Great Crusade for centuries if not millennia, whereas allying with them would speed it up significantly. Considering the Emperor is a psyker who can see the future to a degree, this was an easy compromise to make. Side note, it's implied that the C'tan that crashed into Mars millions of years ago, the Void Dragon, is the Martian Machine God. But because the Cult Mechanicum is unaware of its true nature and the Emperor beat a shard of it in combat while a lot of Tech Priests bore witness they believe that the Emperor is the Prophet of the Machine God, the Omnissiah, who saved them from a great evil. Which made the compromise easy from their point of view. Also, the Cult Mechanicum in 30k is significantly less zealous than in 40k, there are still a bunch of Tech Priests who don't go all in with the body modification and instead only replace and augment that which is practical, the most extreme individual in that regard being Arkan Land who I believe only had some organs replaced and only one mechadendrite.
You can pretty much blame super mario galaxy for that. So many people i’ve spoken to use galaxy for solar system, and don’t know what a galaxy is called due to that game…
Imo, Henry Cavill should play Horus. I know you haven't yet read any of them, but the Horus Heresy books really do a great job of fleshing out the Primarchs as characters. In the novels, Horus doesn't fall to Chaos until about halfway through the second book, so for a good chunk of the early books, you are seeing Horus as he was when he was loyal to the Emperor. In those early books, Horus is presented not only as a great warrior and strategist but also as a charismatic leader of the Imperium, able to inspire adoration and loyalty. A big part of the first three books of the Horus Heresy series is the tragedy of seeing this once-great champion of the Emperor, succumb to his worst traits, and betray everything he stood for. So, yeah, I think Horus would be the best role for Cavill in my imaginary Game of Thrones-esque TV series about the Horus Heresy. You'd start with him as this incredibly charismatic bad ass and see him descend into the perfect champion of the forces of hell. I think Cavill could pull off both sides of that performance really well.
@@kingkong381 The problem with going straight to the Heresy is that it'll filter too many people for Amazon to want to do it first. It's a huge commitment of actors, sets, props, CGI, and so dense in lore that people new to the setting will bounce. They'll use Cavill to draw people to a much smaller scale story, most likely.
@Xynth25 Oh, for sure. Whatever the project ends up being, it will likely attempt to serve as an intro to the setting as a whole rather than adapt the Horus Heresy. Chances are Cavill ends up playing an original character, either an Inquisitor if mortal or probably a Primaris Lieutenant if Astartes. Possibly a Custodes, since that's his favourite faction. If they really wanted to put him in a major role of current-era 40k, then chances are he'd end up playing Guilliman, but I hope not since I really don't think he'd suit that role. But in my imaginary fan-casting of the Horus Heresy, I struggle to think of another actor I'd want to see as Horus.
Honestly. I would thoroughly recommend you check out the series "If the Emperor had a Text to speech device" (And all the accompanying videos. Lovingly referred to as "TTS" by the community This series was largely my introduction to 40K, I went into it, probably with less knowledge than you have now, and came out of it more knowledgeable, because the format of the series, while, mostly, comedic, does teach a LOT about what happened in universe, in a pretty memorable and digestable way. It is worth noting that there are also some very spectacular / serious moments, especially as the series goes on At first you could probably watch 3-4 episodes per video, but they start getting longer over time If you'd like I can give a link to the playlist containing all the episodes, there's a fair few of them. 30 mainline episodes (With some being two parters) and other bonus episodes etc
There’s more than 600 novels and anthologies now - I should know, I own about 400 of them 😅 most are non-critical, many are in self-contained series (Gaunt’s Ghosts, Ciaphas Cain). Some of the critical lore events aren’t even in novels, they’re in tabletop campaign books 😂 arbitor ian does great summaries of the events like that btw!
@Deebeegeek It's great to see you enjoy the Warhammer 40k Lore! I've been a 40k fan for two years now and there's still so much to learn about. I recommend that you should see videos focusing on Roboute Gulliman, Primarch of the Ultramarines and his return to the present setting as it was not forseen by many psykers. Not even the Eldar and the Dark Gods had seen his return.
@@Wolfbroa Not really a "Random fact". It's common knowledge, most elementary school children are aware of the distinction between a galaxy and universe lmao
If you've already finished Space Marine 2, I think you should check out "The Entire Lore of Space Marine 2 EXPLAINED" by Major Kill. I think it's a nice and short recap that adds context to things that happen in Space Marine 1 and events a little after SM1 that'll help you understand Titus a lot more.
One of the biggest reasons why the emperor didn't reveal himself or his intentions during the dark age of technology or the age of strife was because even though he was the emperor and is mega powerful, the technology at that time was so advanced that if he tried to take command he probably would've gotten himself killed
18:26 heads up, this is just one of the theories on how the emperor of mankind came to be. something I wish weshammer made more clear at the start of the video, is that most 40k lore is told from unreliable and/or bias narrators, and could be something from 20 years ago so most lore needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
I like how when Weshammer says regarding the tyranids first encounter and the appearance of the Tau he's like "Oh... it's fine" But when afterwards he state that the Necrons started waking up, he literally paused the video. Idk, it's just hilarious to watch
Canonically the Emperor is on earth in disguise now. There's a non-zero chance that he actually invented 40k himself as a warning to the actual events of the future
One thing. Lorgar didn't need new gods after the emperor shamed him. Instead he sought the truth, and when he learned how terrible their universe was, he still accepted it because it was the truth. He freely and with full understanding chose to accept chaos. The reason why he orchestrated the Horus Heresy was to give humanity a possible future, as the Emperors plans would have resulted in another new chaos good born of Humanity insted of the eldar
Arbitor Ian has a video retrospective about the Horus heresy, its a great way to see how the 40K lore has been built up over the years. idk if its a good reaction but is something you should check out
i like to believe that somewhere in the future years GW takes the lore to the point where Big E dies and reborns, bringing the new age to the 40K universe
There were only 4 Legions on Isstvan III - Sons of Horus, Death Guard, Emperor's Children and World Eaters, they were there to purge Loyalists from their ranks. Few of the Loyalist escaped and warned Emperor about Horus' betrayal. So, Emperor sent 7 legions to bring Horus to him, not knowing that 4 of those 7 legions already pledged to Horus - Night Lords, Iron Warriors, Word Bearers and Alpha Legion. When they found Horus and his allies on Isstvan V first to land on that planet were Loyalist from Salamanders, Raven Guard and Iron Hands, with other 4 Legions landing behind their back. Most of those 3 Loyalists Legions died on the planet what was later known as "Drop Site Massacre".
Bricky´s and WesHammer´s videos complement eachother. In my experience, Wes tends to do deeper dives into the esotheric aspects of the lore, while Bricky is more succinct and direct in his story telling. I remember being slightly peeved that Bricky didnt mention that The Old Ones didnt exactly tell the Necrontyr to "get shafted" but it was more of a Star Trek "we cant intervene! You have yur own destiny" I enjoy both.
Welcome to W40K! just a few pointers if you don't mind: Everything in this video was explained in the one you saw 2 weeks ago by Bricky "W40K Timeline"! I know it's a lot of information and it takes time to sink in but I believe you were hearing it but not listening to it. Remember the kiddie pool analogy? The calm warp was massively disrupted by the War in Heaven. Also... the Universe is full of Galaxies, we live in a spiral one called The Milky Way (named after the greek goddess Hera squirting milk from her breast) and of course it has an end, the edge of a circle is called the circumference, hence rim.
55:00 In the current lore GW changed that. Originally the Emperor was holding back against Horus but in the current lore Horus was far superior in power to the Emperor so the Emperor decided to defeat him by cheating.
Suprised that Humanity was able to snuff out suns? Nectons had something even better - Celestial Orrery - interactive 3d map of Galaxy, that when you touch star it goes supernova - actual star in space...
36:05 Alright guys, who do you think Henry Cavil would best play the role of. Post your comment below, and the one with the most likes will hopefully get Dee Bee Geeks attention! I personally think he'd make a great Roubute Gilliaman
yo, you should watch majorkills "the ending of the horus heresy explained", it got some changes that bricky didnt mention in his video and its really interesting^^
The main thing you should try to remember going forward is that pre-heresy the Space Marines were organized into 20 legions and post-heresy they were broken down into chapters. Like 1000 of them. That's where you get Marines like the Black Templars, Crimson Fists, etc.
glad to see you watching weshammer, majorkill is also a good one for more of simplification but you get a sense of the people or factions you wanna know about very easily with a bit of a laugh and such, they are great one for lore videos also the emperor shaman thing is a theory of many still not actually true also imagine the church that made the worship of the emperor possible that their whole religion was created by lorgar apparently and he hates that that ended up happening
That is why Brickys Videos are not really good for beginners. He is using a lot of Memes that you have to know to understand everything. Take the lost Primarchs vor example, you need to know about them beforehand before you can understand the joke. Luetin09 and Weshammer would be my choice if someone wants to get into 40k and would ask me where to look.
'The Exploring Series' has great breakdowns of Warhammer lore. His content is stuff you would listen to while relaxing or taking a nap. He gives brief overviews of the primarks, dives into the ideas behind the chaos gods, the history of the Ca'tan. The content is around 20 minutes long a video. I highly recommend watching him, at least for your personal enjoyment.
Indeed, although Leutin09's narration is a little dry and robs the subject a little of it's majesty in my opinion- Shame really because his lore is almost peerless.
@cerisambrook7692 Exactly. Normally for someone new, I wouldn't really give him as a first choice because of it, but his accuracy and skill is undeniable.
2:15 Eh... more like 1k. Cuz this stuff keeps on going. And the writers jump around a lot. Now if only the eldar actually had a writer that liked and respected them, so the waking of a certain deity would actually bear good fruit for them and they can stop being on the brink of extinction.
I would like to recommend Arbiter Ians Book Club videos on youtube. They talk about various novels in the setting, the story, characters, plots (yes full on spoilers), and the context of the novels. They also occasional interview authors of the novels. Additionally there are people recommending books (without spoilers), maybe reacting to one of those could be interesting.
Deebee, another channel I highly recommend is the Remembrancer. He has 40k vids galore that go into detail about the factions, lore and even the history and structure about the space marine legions/chapters along with their primarchs.
Cadia was not just the people who held back everything coming through the Eye of Terror but the Planet itself was holding back the Eye it just makes it all the more impactful
Lost count of how many times our boy here got his mind blown with certain information. weshammer has some great deep lore, i like the one on the imperial assassins (think it's about 50 minutes long)
18:40 the origin of emperor is never mentioned and just speculation. some theorize they are from shamans, some theorize he one of the old one that survive. but the real answer is nobody knows
It is explicitly described in the realms of chaos lost and the damned. In print, no ambiguity, just flat out 'emperor is shamans fused together and was born in 8000bc in Anatolia'. You can argue that gw have been trying to add mystery to him, but that was the official origin of the emperor for decades before any other ideas popped up
If you want to see more short cinematics I suggest the 9th edition cinematic trailer and the 10th edition trailer, also I suggest the Killteam cinematic trailers both the first one and the new one.
When it comes to the Treaty of Mars, you hit it pretty much exactly on the nail, its also why current Imperium tolerates the Cult Mechanicus despite it being on the face of it a form of heresy, although not a non compliant one. Also Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2's cinematics are amazing bits of visual storytelling when talking about the Fall of Cadia and the 13th Black Crusade, you should give them a watch.
Hey buddy, Im enjoying watching this with you, I have been into warhammer since I was 12, I am now 38, I have read every book upto date! Warhammer has been and continues to be my favorite universe! I enjoy watching you dive in and learn about it all for the first time. Enjoy the ride man! You should get into audiobooks when you game or hobby, that has helped me allot with some books, so I can still learn new lore and do other things too lol :)
37:23 Custodians do not have gene seed. Their augmentations are hand-crafted and specific to each individual Custodian at a genetic level. As far as I'm aware the Thunder Warriors didn't use gene seed, but they had a lot of similar augmentations to space marines and were kind of the prototype to the Astartes. The creation of the Primarchs and the introduction of the gene seed was the solution to all the genetic defects the Thunder Warriors had.
56:00 There are a few reasons why the Emperor can't be allowed to die. First, the Emperor is holding back the powers of chaos from invading Terra, so the instant he dies demons start to flood Terra. Second, good luck convincing one of the Adeptus Custodes to let you kill the Emperor.
40:01 about the emperor visiting the last church on terra. It is an actual short story called «(The last church) I recommend reading it if you want to understand the big E view of religion. And if reading is not your cup of tea. There is a fan animation of it on RUclips.
I’d heavily recommend watching Luetin09’s “Emperor Of Man” series. It’s a very in-depth look into the lore of the Emperor with direct quotes from the books, the Horus Heresy parts are fantastic and very epic. It’s some of the videos I watched myself when I started getting into Warhammer.
55:20 Wes left out the best part of the fight between Horus and the Emperor. The Emperor and Sanguinius had teleported up to the Vengeful Spirit with an army of Marines, Custodes, and Imperial Army soldiers. As the Emperor lay dying, a regular soldier, just a normal mortal unaugmented guy, stepped in front of the Emperor to protect him. Horus just laughed and used a spell to flay the soldier alive, laughing the whole time. It was witnessing that level of cruelty that convinced the Emperor that the Horus he knew was well and truly dead, replaced by a monster wearing his son's face. So he unleashed all his psychic power in one concentrated blast that not only killed Horus but completely destroyed his soul.
might recommended "Baldemorts" Video of Rogal Dorn covers all of Horus Heresy and even some insight on the events from Dorns perspective albeit a bit in a creators bias manner
Great reaction. Yeah, as Bricky, Weshammer do a great job too with is timeline, with a more serious touch. Warrior Tier has a 40k timeline video too on YT, but with a twist on it, because they approach it with the POV of the Necron Lord, Trazyn The Infinite ("TIMELINE of the 40k UNIVERSE by Trazyn the infinite" is the name of the video). Speeking of adaptation of 40k novels in movies, there is one named The Last Church (present in Wes timeline), It's a very well fan made movie adapted from the same named novel.
Weshammer also get Erdas motivation for scattering the Primarchs wrong. She didn't do it because she was being a protective mother, she did it because she thought the Emperors end goal was horrific. A lot of the Emperors perpetual allies turned on him for reasons you discover in the later Horus Heresy novels, he wasn't the smartest dude when it came down to it.
The galactic rim is the border of the milky way, our galaxy. 40k almost never mentions what happens outside de milky way beyond some stories here and there, or how the tyranids came from outside our galaxy
The shaman sacrifice and the star baby (Big E) is one of the mythos about his creation, we are not sure if that's the real one but is one of the most plausible
Press F for Sanguinius
55:27 In the books that fight is Anime tier, they're literally moving at speed the people around can't even follow with their eyes, jumping in between dimensions, other planets, non-euclidean folds in space, time, etc they even play yugi-oh (the 30k version), it's what happens when the most powerful psyker with 50k years of experience and the champion of the 4 chaos gods with all their blessings fight. Simply insane
Regarding "Big E" it's suggested that he has appeared throughout human history as pivotal figures (literally Jesus in this context) and has shaped events so that humanity would make it to where they did during the golden age of technology. What he didn't anticipate was how much Chaos would mess with his plans. There are several theories on the Emperor's power and where it comes from, ranging from "Tzeench literally planned and schemed for him to exist so he could weaken the other Chaos gods in the great game" to "The Orks believe him to be a powerful god, and because so many of them believe he is a god they willed it to be true."
The only things we KNOW for sure is that he is a perpetual, that he's currently "alive" technically on the golden throne, and that he foresaw a lot of what happened, but he was not a god or perfect. Thanks to the End and the Death, we also know that he COULD have been a god, but turned down that power because his birth as a god would've destroyed humanity. We know that he "took" power from the Chaos gods to create the primarchs (whether it was stolen or given isn't clear).
Anything else is up to interpretation, down to his appearance even. He looks different to different people. Custodes see him as an equally sized man. The Sisters of Silence see him as a small frail child. He shows what people want to see through psychic projection. I personally think that he was manipulated by Tzeench, who has plans within plans to use him to weaken Khorne specifically so that he can overtake the others in the great game.
It was akin to a DBZ fight between a control freak and a teenager with daddy issues.
yep
The shaman sacrifice story is from a old book and it's hard to tell if it's still canon. Regardless, it's essentially the only explanation we ever got, although imho it's pretty much confirmed that the Emperor has been alive since prehistoric times even if I'm not sure if Anatolia being his birthplace is mentioned again.
lol rim :D
I'd honestly recommend anything by Baldermort. If you are down for something longer, he has a fantastic three part piece on Rogal Dorn.
The longest second. 🥲
Love his one on the space wolves so much
Yeah his three part series should have been followed up on with the Horus heresy for other primarchs view points. His three part video was one reason I got into 40k… highly recommended even if some parts are outdated due to the new books
Baldermort, Leutin, or Oculus Imperia. All 3 give the more grimdark feel of 40k lore, and don’t put themselves in front of the camera like Wes, Bricky, Majorkill
The way Wes describes were the Emperor came from is only one of several origin stories.
Soon as I saw that I said out loud "that is not what Luetin believes!" something I really like about Luetin is that he always stresses that history in warhammer 40k should be viewed similarly to our own history where it's hard to know for sure what is myth and fact.
@@krogan3760 And let's not forget, new lore and old lore. What was once fact is not always the what is fact today
12 shaman in a trenchcoat, or "the captain planet technique" as i prefer, is the most widely believed version and the only one the emperor himself has in any way even remotely come close to confirming.
AND THIS IS JUST ME, I HAVE MINIMAL EVIDENCE FOR THIS- i think Ra Endemyon's mother was right, he's not actually a person. "Big E" is not even THAT GUY, but some kind of insanely advanced super weapon (or AI, or warp entity for that matter) passing itself off as the mythical "Emperor of Mankind". this entity heard about the shamans, their plan, etc... and decided to self-insert, playing the role of the Emperor. it's not impossible given that things like The Angel exist, and i also have reason to believe Big E has been killing/absorbing the other perpetuals to empower itself.
23:40 yeah humanity could snuff out suns with a massive machine, but the necrons have a holographic interface they can simply point to a star and delete it in real life. Necrons are so unbelievably advanced.
Yep, humanity was just like the Necrons in terms of Technological Advancement like in top 3 of Technological Advance.
I don't even see the star exploding as that impressive. I think a lot of people forget or either take it as granted that the Necrons commonly use their own tesseract pocket dimensions in battle. The Eldar have the Webway, sure, but they didn't make it, it was handed over to them by the Old Ones. The Necrons however made their own dimension. That, and let's not forget the Necron Chronomancers literally control time to the point that if you shoot one with a tank, it could just go "oop, I wasn't harmed by that in *this* timeline!" and just walk away unscathed.
@@lylehigg not only that. The Silent King destroyed all the dangerous weapons of the Necrons after they went to sleep. But the holographic interface that can pretty much warp reality on such a level, nah that is okay. That one is not so dangerous.
@@TheMightyCrucibleKnight184 Not quite, humanity at its peak before the age of darkness (caused by the eldar buggering Slaanesh into existence) was kind of up there, but they still basically to the Eldar (in their prime mind you, not the eldar craftworlds and such) what the Tau are to the Imperium now... getting there, advanced in some ways but behind in the key technologies like interstellar/warp (or for the eldar webway) travel and other fields that would let you become a true galactic power.
The Necrons in their prime where so far beyond the Eldar in their prime (shortly before their demise) that its not even funny in terms of technological and scientific understanding of how realspace (as opposed to the dimension of the warp) works and rivaled the eldar's understanding of the warp to the point that the necrons could build tools for closing warp rifts, Cadia hid one such facility and it nearly closed the eye of terror before Abaddon broke the planet which caused a backlash that tore the eye-rift, until then the largest rift in the galaxy, into a streak near bisecting the galaxy in two.
@@accywacky2699 Tbf, Games Workshop have gone on record during interviews where they stated that the three most advanced species in the setting were the Necrons, Humans and Aeldari, but they had different specialties. The Necrons were masters of Realspace tech, the Aeldari were masters of Warp based technology, and humanity were extremely adept at mixing the two, reaching maybe 80%-90% of what the other two species did in their respective fields. Of course, the current Necrons, Humans and Eldar cannot access anything approaching the peak of their technology outside of certain extreme circumstances due to their respective issues. We have seen what happens when they go toe to toe with their best tech however, at least in a broad sense. During the Pariah Nexus, when the Silent King was leading the campaign and activating the Blackstone Pillars, he decided to use some of their old doomsday weapons to fight against the Imperium in an effort to keep the worlds they’d stolen. The Mechanicus weren’t happy about that in the slightest and decided to whip out some of the doomsday shit they’d recovered from the DAoT. It’s unclear what exactly happened, except it lead to a literal stalemate between the two factions, and a hell of a lot of losses on both sides.
The shaman thing creating the emperor is just a theory among many. He might be the last Old One, since he can change what you perceive him as. There’s evidence he changes his size at times, changes his voice, creates golden auras and stuff. He’s pretty much an enigma.
@@dombam2563 when it was published in the realm of chaos lost and the damned in 1990 it was anything but a theory. It was written as 3rd person omniscient narrator, just like the text in a codex that tells you how a space marine chapter functions.
About Cadia: This was extremely shortened. Cadia faced the chaos legions head on, but the onslaught was WAY TOO MUCH for them (and even then, they did not surrender), MANY forces from the imperium, like the Adeptus Astartes, the Adeptus Mechanicus and every single legion available from the Astra Militarum were sent to help Cadia BUT WAS NOT ENOUGH. The battle was so damn entrenched Abaddon had to ultimately sacrifice his precious blackstone fortress and destroy the planet. The chaos legions summoned all kinds of demonic entities into the planet but the cadians resisted HARSHLY, both sides were depleting en-masse, chaos with their unending legions and the mortals fighting fiercely. Breaking the planet was the only way Abaddon could have gotten his victory instead of fighting endlessly. THIS is why it is said "the planet broke before the guard did", meaning "you had to break the planet because you could not break us"... And this is why we cry for Cadia. Cadia stands!
The dialogue in Darktide regarding Cadia is *chefs kiss*. The Cadian veteran will take the first excuse presented to redact the psyker
@@drkstarling Abbadon after destroyed Cadia: "first try !!"
Nah the thing is. The Imperium won the ground engagement, they pushed back Abaddon and nearly killed him, and the Phalanx arrived so the space battle would've eventually been won. Not to mention the Eye of Terror was being shrunk by the effort of Trazyn and Cawl. Chaos at that time was so close to being dealt a massive blow that would've set them back tens of thousands of years but Abaddon threw the Blackstone fortress and completely reversed everything. Even after Abaddon put everything he had against Cadia he still nearly lost and cost them the entire Long War but just that on salty move he did reversed everything about the Imperium.
@@paimonisfood4986 abaddon : hehe ez win(high in copium)
A real world equivalent of what Erda did would be learning how your spouse plans to send your kids to military school and your solution to this is to open the car doors while going 80mph and yeeting your kids out.
You are on a roll Brother @deebeegeek , I recommend the "wizards and warriors" channel's 9 part playlist on the Horus Heresy. For me, their videos are most comprehensive, detailed and well produced on that event.
17:58 the shaman stuff is one of many THEORIES how Big E came to existance.
100%. One thing to keep in mind about 40k lore, it's ALL told from the perspective of in-universe unreliable narrators.
Exactly, personally I think he is the last surviving old one
The shaman theory alway seem wrong to me.
I mean if you can create a being that powerful like that, than the Eldar "which are much more gifted psychically" would have done the same.
Especially when they needed a being like that to deal with Slaanesh.
One of the more intriguing possibilities comes from a quote of one of Old Earth's last noble houses that stood against the Emperor during the unification-wars. "You are just a weapon left out of it's box!" Possibly a memetic or biologically constructed weapon used to subjugate enemies through persuasion and charisma rather than force.
@@PwntifexMaximus “tell me, have u ever heard the emperor breathe?”
7:31 ctan eat stars, destroying life. Old ones go through galaxy, seeding and nurturing life. Clash inevitable
Wouldn't the Ctan want them around to keep being fed then? I would assume the old ones would have an issue with them.
@@denkerbosu3551 Its the same thing with the chaos gods I think (as in, the chaos gods would starve without mortals feeding them emotions, yet they still want to kill every mortal). They're just kinda dickheads.
40:43 it’s because they make all the stuff. Can’t have a great crusade without guns and ships.
It's like he forgot about what Bricky said on the Factions Explained video 😅
And technically it could be seen as the 'worship of science', which he wanted man to be more dedicated to anyway. Maybe not as MUCH as the martians but yeah
Also, the Emperor got them on his side by repairing machines they could not. Or making machines work they had no idea how.
The emperor is the machine god Jesus to the Mechanicus. He is literally viewed as the human personification of the machine god. They named him the Omnissia
@@dylanbowers6292 he also forgot Bricky's explanation about the Warp, and the comparison to the Kiddie pool.
9:30 a galaxy is not never ending, the universe might be but not galaxies, there are thousands of galaxy and in a galaxy there's thousands of solar systems. So no a galaxy is just a small fraction of the universe, you are confusing galaxy with universe, The Tyranids was originally from outside of milky way galaxy
yes there are multiple galaxies but one universe which is infinite, galaxies have starts and end and rims though
Well technically there’s a multiverse with alternative universes & dimensions and they are just not touch upon much yet some have been destroyed by chaos.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls he's answering tbe question about space, no need to start talking about time-space and bloody multiverse s.
@@denkerbosu3551 Yeah but I’m just adding on and these are things that exist in WarHammer 40K
If you hear people been saying "screw Erebus" that's because he's the main reason Horus became corrupted.
my favorite conversation in warhammer 40 k is between guilliman and a high tech priest. guilliman asks. " can he be brought back. " the priest says. " who " causing guilliman to reply with something along the lines of. " we both know who i mean. " the priest responds. " I hope he does not. " gulliman asks " why so. " and the priest says. " all gods are blights on the universe wether they call themselves as such or not. "
I am butchering the quote here. dont remember it fully. but thats the rough conversation.
that was cawl inferior but yea you pretty much got the quote lol I love that quote so much
55:00 The Emperor vs Horus fight is insane. They both were so immensely powerful and the duel itself simultaneously spanned multiple planes of existence and through different points in time. I don’t know how it would even be portrayed in animation. It’s one of those “the human mind can’t even comprehend it” type things.
Rock, paper, scissors. Duh.
@@cheeseburger12 arm wrestling duh
@@Lyaagato Don't you think that is Over the Top?
@@cheeseburger12 fine.. how about whack a mole games? they can use erebus as a mole of course
That's one theory of the Emperor's birth, but not the only one, and we don't know the absolute truth. It's written that way on purpose.
I’d recommend warrior tier timeline too, it’s so amazing, it’s like a movie.
That’s my favourite timeline video but it’s also the most serious. A lot of newcomers prefer the lighthearted approach of Bricky and Wes cause it’s easier to consume
@@nunuonroad9969well, I mean, deebee already consumed newbie friendly, time to go in seriously 😁😁👍👍
I'm halfway through the video, and although it has a few more details than Bricky's, I prefer his timeline video.
link?
You dang well know that a the 40k rabbit hole goes unbelievably deep and we will most certainly be here to witness you walk down that path lol
It should be note that The Cult Mechanicus maintains that the Emperor is the physical manifestation of the Machine God and part of a trinity that also includes the Machine God and the Motive Force, this why Cult Mechanicus isn't heresy in the Imperium of Man
That, a model of a belief that is different than the dogma, is per definition a heresy. Like, the only reason people raised Christian or familiar with Christianity don't blink when trinitarianism is involved is because other models of Christian belief were declared heresies and their propagandists killed. It's just that the few ecclesiarchy nerds who realize it exists tend to ignore for political expediancy while most others just think "Omnissiah" is just the tech priests having weird terminology about the emperor.
@@alchemicpink2392 It helps that the Imperial Cult is actually really flexible about local terminology for the Emperor. It's part of why they can be such a seemingly monolithic organization, because they deliberately don't bring up the whole 'The Emperor is the Sun' on a lot of worlds, among other things.
Any other fellow 40K Veterans feel bad and amused at just how much the Drukhari have traumatised our boy DeeBee? XD
Granted that is the appropriate reaction to the sweat-gremlins.
It's nice to see some empathy again
Yeah, Galaxies have ends. 40K happens in the Milk Way, our Galaxy.
Another good 40k thing to watch is "the last church" animation.
It gives a pretty good look on the Emperors mindset before the Great Crusade.
The emperor actually fought a C'tan shard called the void dragon and beat it. He then imprisoned it underground on mars.
Necron use everything they have to fight c'tan meanwhile in earth the Emperor use a sword and a horse and became Saint Georges
And now the adeptus mechanicus worship it lol
Dont forgot, this happened in the middle ages. Big E got to Mars and back....somehow when the horse and buggy were peak tech
@@n4m31355h4dow Well, the Necrons don't have the right tool to fight C'Tan. (Psychic powers.) So, I actually consider the Necrons beating the C'Tan much more impressive. It's like the difference between using kryptonite to beat Superman (Still impressively hard, but expected.) and straight up punching him out. (Absolutely shocking as a feat.)
*Allegedly
Erebus, the true architect of the Horus Heresy, is by far my favorite character in 30k. He's so bad it's good. I'd love to see you dive deep into his lore, and that of the Word Bearers during the Great Crusade.
Erebus is pretty much the Revolver Ocelot of 40k. Just that he's a giant dick on top of it.
Keep in mind, both this video and Bricky's include a LOT of supposition on the pre imperium timeline!
Little to nothing has been directly written about the dark age of technology or the war in heaven in canon, and there are a lot of fan theories floating around that have become so popular that fans have assumed they're true.
So, grain of salt.
@@Simmons8519 Massive grain of salt the whole section about the Emperor is soooo much fan speculation as opposed to what is factually proven
40:50 The reason is purely rooted in Mars' military power at the time. Going to war with the Cult Mechanicum would've left the Emperor's forces crippled and delay the Great Crusade for centuries if not millennia, whereas allying with them would speed it up significantly. Considering the Emperor is a psyker who can see the future to a degree, this was an easy compromise to make.
Side note, it's implied that the C'tan that crashed into Mars millions of years ago, the Void Dragon, is the Martian Machine God. But because the Cult Mechanicum is unaware of its true nature and the Emperor beat a shard of it in combat while a lot of Tech Priests bore witness they believe that the Emperor is the Prophet of the Machine God, the Omnissiah, who saved them from a great evil. Which made the compromise easy from their point of view.
Also, the Cult Mechanicum in 30k is significantly less zealous than in 40k, there are still a bunch of Tech Priests who don't go all in with the body modification and instead only replace and augment that which is practical, the most extreme individual in that regard being Arkan Land who I believe only had some organs replaced and only one mechadendrite.
You're confusing two things there.
Galaxies are finite. The universe isn't.
yep
Great video but i just gotta ask, 9:10 do... do you not know the difference between a Galaxy and a Universe?
we all have brain farts from time to time lol.
Yeah the Galaxy does end if not there would be no other galaxies and it would just be a universe but yeah I’m sure he just had a brain fart tbh lol
You can pretty much blame super mario galaxy for that. So many people i’ve spoken to use galaxy for solar system, and don’t know what a galaxy is called due to that game…
Imo, Henry Cavill should play Horus. I know you haven't yet read any of them, but the Horus Heresy books really do a great job of fleshing out the Primarchs as characters.
In the novels, Horus doesn't fall to Chaos until about halfway through the second book, so for a good chunk of the early books, you are seeing Horus as he was when he was loyal to the Emperor. In those early books, Horus is presented not only as a great warrior and strategist but also as a charismatic leader of the Imperium, able to inspire adoration and loyalty. A big part of the first three books of the Horus Heresy series is the tragedy of seeing this once-great champion of the Emperor, succumb to his worst traits, and betray everything he stood for.
So, yeah, I think Horus would be the best role for Cavill in my imaginary Game of Thrones-esque TV series about the Horus Heresy. You'd start with him as this incredibly charismatic bad ass and see him descend into the perfect champion of the forces of hell. I think Cavill could pull off both sides of that performance really well.
Rumour is Amazon wants to go woke and Cavill is going to bail. Last I heard they want 50% of the Space Marines to be women.
From a purely acting perspective, that would give him the biggest space to work in.
@@kingkong381 The problem with going straight to the Heresy is that it'll filter too many people for Amazon to want to do it first. It's a huge commitment of actors, sets, props, CGI, and so dense in lore that people new to the setting will bounce. They'll use Cavill to draw people to a much smaller scale story, most likely.
@Xynth25 Oh, for sure. Whatever the project ends up being, it will likely attempt to serve as an intro to the setting as a whole rather than adapt the Horus Heresy. Chances are Cavill ends up playing an original character, either an Inquisitor if mortal or probably a Primaris Lieutenant if Astartes. Possibly a Custodes, since that's his favourite faction. If they really wanted to put him in a major role of current-era 40k, then chances are he'd end up playing Guilliman, but I hope not since I really don't think he'd suit that role.
But in my imaginary fan-casting of the Horus Heresy, I struggle to think of another actor I'd want to see as Horus.
Isaynder and kota are a good recommendation for some amazing lore videos, the tyranid and genestealer videos are very good
Their Primarch and Ork Videos were my favorite 😅
@@A.M_slimeThose are very good too!
They're very accessible and entertaining to watch, I'd second this recommendation
Honestly. I would thoroughly recommend you check out the series "If the Emperor had a Text to speech device" (And all the accompanying videos. Lovingly referred to as "TTS" by the community
This series was largely my introduction to 40K, I went into it, probably with less knowledge than you have now, and came out of it more knowledgeable, because the format of the series, while, mostly, comedic, does teach a LOT about what happened in universe, in a pretty memorable and digestable way. It is worth noting that there are also some very spectacular / serious moments, especially as the series goes on
At first you could probably watch 3-4 episodes per video, but they start getting longer over time
If you'd like I can give a link to the playlist containing all the episodes, there's a fair few of them. 30 mainline episodes (With some being two parters) and other bonus episodes etc
There’s more than 600 novels and anthologies now - I should know, I own about 400 of them 😅 most are non-critical, many are in self-contained series (Gaunt’s Ghosts, Ciaphas Cain). Some of the critical lore events aren’t even in novels, they’re in tabletop campaign books 😂 arbitor ian does great summaries of the events like that btw!
@Deebeegeek
It's great to see you enjoy the Warhammer 40k Lore! I've been a 40k fan for two years now and there's still so much to learn about.
I recommend that you should see videos focusing on Roboute Gulliman, Primarch of the Ultramarines and his return to the present setting as it was not forseen by many psykers. Not even the Eldar and the Dark Gods had seen his return.
23:17 basically, a Dyson sphere, but with a more aggresive approach
Why thank you, we enjoy being here. It's always great to see more people learning the lore.
homie....you don't know the difference between a galaxy and the universe....??? 9:30 wtfff
Yeah that made me laugh 😂
Same...
RUclipsrs man always making me question if I’m just smart or attached to random facts
@@Wolfbroa Not really a "Random fact". It's common knowledge, most elementary school children are aware of the distinction between a galaxy and universe lmao
@@xavierlehew6746guess that’s also true
You need to watch Arbitor Ian's Astartes Legions videos, he gives so much context that Bricky leaves out.
Definitely recommend Ian"s videos for more detail!
If you've already finished Space Marine 2, I think you should check out "The Entire Lore of Space Marine 2 EXPLAINED" by Major Kill. I think it's a nice and short recap that adds context to things that happen in Space Marine 1 and events a little after SM1 that'll help you understand Titus a lot more.
One of the biggest reasons why the emperor didn't reveal himself or his intentions during the dark age of technology or the age of strife was because even though he was the emperor and is mega powerful, the technology at that time was so advanced that if he tried to take command he probably would've gotten himself killed
18:26 heads up, this is just one of the theories on how the emperor of mankind came to be. something I wish weshammer made more clear at the start of the video, is that most 40k lore is told from unreliable and/or bias narrators, and could be something from 20 years ago so most lore needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
I like how when Weshammer says regarding the tyranids first encounter and the appearance of the Tau he's like "Oh... it's fine" But when afterwards he state that the Necrons started waking up, he literally paused the video. Idk, it's just hilarious to watch
Canonically the Emperor is on earth in disguise now. There's a non-zero chance that he actually invented 40k himself as a warning to the actual events of the future
One thing. Lorgar didn't need new gods after the emperor shamed him. Instead he sought the truth, and when he learned how terrible their universe was, he still accepted it because it was the truth. He freely and with full understanding chose to accept chaos.
The reason why he orchestrated the Horus Heresy was to give humanity a possible future, as the Emperors plans would have resulted in another new chaos good born of Humanity insted of the eldar
Arbitor Ian has a video retrospective about the Horus heresy, its a great way to see how the 40K lore has been built up over the years. idk if its a good reaction but is something you should check out
Seconded
i like to believe that somewhere in the future years GW takes the lore to the point where Big E dies and reborns, bringing the new age to the 40K universe
There were only 4 Legions on Isstvan III - Sons of Horus, Death Guard, Emperor's Children and World Eaters, they were there to purge Loyalists from their ranks. Few of the Loyalist escaped and warned Emperor about Horus' betrayal.
So, Emperor sent 7 legions to bring Horus to him, not knowing that 4 of those 7 legions already pledged to Horus - Night Lords, Iron Warriors, Word Bearers and Alpha Legion. When they found Horus and his allies on Isstvan V first to land on that planet were Loyalist from Salamanders, Raven Guard and Iron Hands, with other 4 Legions landing behind their back. Most of those 3 Loyalists Legions died on the planet what was later known as "Drop Site Massacre".
Bricky´s and WesHammer´s videos complement eachother. In my experience, Wes tends to do deeper dives into the esotheric aspects of the lore, while Bricky is more succinct and direct in his story telling. I remember being slightly peeved that Bricky didnt mention that The Old Ones didnt exactly tell the Necrontyr to "get shafted" but it was more of a Star Trek "we cant intervene! You have yur own destiny" I enjoy both.
Welcome to W40K! just a few pointers if you don't mind:
Everything in this video was explained in the one you saw 2 weeks ago by Bricky "W40K Timeline"! I know it's a lot of information and it takes time to sink in but I believe you were hearing it but not listening to it. Remember the kiddie pool analogy? The calm warp was massively disrupted by the War in Heaven.
Also... the Universe is full of Galaxies, we live in a spiral one called The Milky Way (named after the greek goddess Hera squirting milk from her breast) and of course it has an end, the edge of a circle is called the circumference, hence rim.
The custodians are perfectly designed handcrafted transhuman, the thunder warriors are prototype space marines
400 novels, that's some warhammer content for a few decades lmao
even as cadia broke apart, one could still see faint red flashes occurring on the planet surface. The planet broke before the guard
55:00
In the current lore GW changed that. Originally the Emperor was holding back against Horus but in the current lore Horus was far superior in power to the Emperor so the Emperor decided to defeat him by cheating.
@@ElDrPeste I like the old lore better. So imma just go with that.
Straight away, tasty Necrontyr souls for the "Star Vampires".
If you want to know about Humanity/Emperor a lot better, watch the Luetin09 Emperor of Mankind series, it is SO good
Yeah i think its time to stop scratching the surface and jump into the hole luetin series for humanity/emperor are definitively the way to go
I would suggest Luetin but then again, his only short video is the intro to warhammer one. The rest are multipart series over an hour long.
No way back now time to stop scratching the surface and jump in the hole
Suprised that Humanity was able to snuff out suns? Nectons had something even better - Celestial Orrery - interactive 3d map of Galaxy, that when you touch star it goes supernova - actual star in space...
36:05 Alright guys, who do you think Henry Cavil would best play the role of. Post your comment below, and the one with the most likes will hopefully get Dee Bee Geeks attention!
I personally think he'd make a great Roubute Gilliaman
Someone get this man to Helsreach!
yo, you should watch majorkills "the ending of the horus heresy explained", it got some changes that bricky didnt mention in his video and its really interesting^^
Galaxies are a part of the Universe. The universe itself is our plane of existence
yep
The main thing you should try to remember going forward is that pre-heresy the Space Marines were organized into 20 legions and post-heresy they were broken down into chapters. Like 1000 of them. That's where you get Marines like the Black Templars, Crimson Fists, etc.
Love your Warhammer journey. Hope you stay with us! It's alot of fun.
glad to see you watching weshammer, majorkill is also a good one for more of simplification but you get a sense of the people or factions you wanna know about very easily with a bit of a laugh and such, they are great one for lore videos
also the emperor shaman thing is a theory of many still not actually true
also imagine the church that made the worship of the emperor possible that their whole religion was created by lorgar apparently and he hates that that ended up happening
That is why Brickys Videos are not really good for beginners. He is using a lot of Memes that you have to know to understand everything. Take the lost Primarchs vor example, you need to know about them beforehand before you can understand the joke. Luetin09 and Weshammer would be my choice if someone wants to get into 40k and would ask me where to look.
Vox in the Void does a really good job narrating 40k stories and it really breathes life into the universe
'The Exploring Series' has great breakdowns of Warhammer lore. His content is stuff you would listen to while relaxing or taking a nap. He gives brief overviews of the primarks, dives into the ideas behind the chaos gods, the history of the Ca'tan.
The content is around 20 minutes long a video. I highly recommend watching him, at least for your personal enjoyment.
Sandman of Terra, Weshammer, and Luetin09 are all the goats of Warhammer lore.
Indeed, although Leutin09's narration is a little dry and robs the subject a little of it's majesty in my opinion- Shame really because his lore is almost peerless.
@cerisambrook7692 Exactly. Normally for someone new, I wouldn't really give him as a first choice because of it, but his accuracy and skill is undeniable.
The Templin Institute’s video “Astra Militarum” & “Cadia” back-to-back
2:15 Eh... more like 1k. Cuz this stuff keeps on going. And the writers jump around a lot. Now if only the eldar actually had a writer that liked and respected them, so the waking of a certain deity would actually bear good fruit for them and they can stop being on the brink of extinction.
18:43 Brecky did not mention this on his video
A universe is different from a Galaxy. Galaxies have an end and there are a huge number of galaxies.
Brothers, we have caught another one. We shall patiently await for your first mini painting stream.
The one by Trazyn, is cool, the timeline of the Universe by Trazyn
I would like to recommend Arbiter Ians Book Club videos on youtube. They talk about various novels in the setting, the story, characters, plots (yes full on spoilers), and the context of the novels. They also occasional interview authors of the novels.
Additionally there are people recommending books (without spoilers), maybe reacting to one of those could be interesting.
Has anyone shared with Dee the youtube channel of Bauldermort for 40k content? If not he needs to. His voice alone is worth the listen.
Deebee, another channel I highly recommend is the Remembrancer.
He has 40k vids galore that go into detail about the factions, lore and even the history and structure about the space marine legions/chapters along with their primarchs.
Cadia was not just the people who held back everything coming through the Eye of Terror but the Planet itself was holding back the Eye it just makes it all the more impactful
Love weshammer, was my first exposure to loretubers
There is the fan animation The Last Church where you can see what happened with the last church and priest.
Lost count of how many times our boy here got his mind blown with certain information. weshammer has some great deep lore, i like the one on the imperial assassins (think it's about 50 minutes long)
YES IM SO HAPPY YOUR DOING WESHAMMERS TIMELINE ITS SO MUCH BETTER
18:40 the origin of emperor is never mentioned and just speculation. some theorize they are from shamans, some theorize he one of the old one that survive.
but the real answer is nobody knows
It is explicitly described in the realms of chaos lost and the damned. In print, no ambiguity, just flat out 'emperor is shamans fused together and was born in 8000bc in Anatolia'. You can argue that gw have been trying to add mystery to him, but that was the official origin of the emperor for decades before any other ideas popped up
If you want to see more short cinematics I suggest the 9th edition cinematic trailer and the 10th edition trailer, also I suggest the Killteam cinematic trailers both the first one and the new one.
When it comes to the Treaty of Mars, you hit it pretty much exactly on the nail, its also why current Imperium tolerates the Cult Mechanicus despite it being on the face of it a form of heresy, although not a non compliant one. Also Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2's cinematics are amazing bits of visual storytelling when talking about the Fall of Cadia and the 13th Black Crusade, you should give them a watch.
Hey buddy, Im enjoying watching this with you, I have been into warhammer since I was 12, I am now 38, I have read every book upto date! Warhammer has been and continues to be my favorite universe! I enjoy watching you dive in and learn about it all for the first time. Enjoy the ride man! You should get into audiobooks when you game or hobby, that has helped me allot with some books, so I can still learn new lore and do other things too lol :)
I really enjoy watching you react to Warhammer content it makes me very entertained
37:23 Custodians do not have gene seed. Their augmentations are hand-crafted and specific to each individual Custodian at a genetic level. As far as I'm aware the Thunder Warriors didn't use gene seed, but they had a lot of similar augmentations to space marines and were kind of the prototype to the Astartes. The creation of the Primarchs and the introduction of the gene seed was the solution to all the genetic defects the Thunder Warriors had.
56:00 There are a few reasons why the Emperor can't be allowed to die. First, the Emperor is holding back the powers of chaos from invading Terra, so the instant he dies demons start to flood Terra. Second, good luck convincing one of the Adeptus Custodes to let you kill the Emperor.
I recommend his list of "10 Hilariously Crazy Ork Weapons".
Its time for Gav and Bob , as well as Baldemorts stories.
40:01 about the emperor visiting the last church on terra. It is an actual short story called «(The last church) I recommend reading it if you want to understand the big E view of religion. And if reading is not your cup of tea. There is a fan animation of it on RUclips.
I’d heavily recommend watching Luetin09’s “Emperor Of Man” series. It’s a very in-depth look into the lore of the Emperor with direct quotes from the books, the Horus Heresy parts are fantastic and very epic. It’s some of the videos I watched myself when I started getting into Warhammer.
The very first Warhammer Lore video I ever watched
13:46 back in the day the warp and the chaos gods were pretty yin yang, but the war in heaven and slaneeshs birth threw all that out the window
55:20 Wes left out the best part of the fight between Horus and the Emperor. The Emperor and Sanguinius had teleported up to the Vengeful Spirit with an army of Marines, Custodes, and Imperial Army soldiers. As the Emperor lay dying, a regular soldier, just a normal mortal unaugmented guy, stepped in front of the Emperor to protect him. Horus just laughed and used a spell to flay the soldier alive, laughing the whole time. It was witnessing that level of cruelty that convinced the Emperor that the Horus he knew was well and truly dead, replaced by a monster wearing his son's face. So he unleashed all his psychic power in one concentrated blast that not only killed Horus but completely destroyed his soul.
The Shaman's sacrifice is one of many theories for the origins of the Emperor
might recommended "Baldemorts" Video of Rogal Dorn covers all of Horus Heresy and even some insight on the events from Dorns perspective albeit a bit in a creators bias manner
Great reaction. Yeah, as Bricky, Weshammer do a great job too with is timeline, with a more serious touch. Warrior Tier has a 40k timeline video too on YT, but with a twist on it, because they approach it with the POV of the Necron Lord, Trazyn The Infinite ("TIMELINE of the 40k UNIVERSE by Trazyn the infinite" is the name of the video).
Speeking of adaptation of 40k novels in movies, there is one named The Last Church (present in Wes timeline), It's a very well fan made movie adapted from the same named novel.
Weshammer also get Erdas motivation for scattering the Primarchs wrong. She didn't do it because she was being a protective mother, she did it because she thought the Emperors end goal was horrific. A lot of the Emperors perpetual allies turned on him for reasons you discover in the later Horus Heresy novels, he wasn't the smartest dude when it came down to it.