Blood of the Dead Was Disappointing
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Entire video summed up in one sentence:
“Look how they massacred my boi”
DestinyCool202 I could’ve sworn, I remember hearing this from Black Panthaa
Me you collab?
@@25rjpetz shut up
Dude i would grind mob of the dead at least 5 hours a day but then blood of the dead came out and i played it 3 times
@@oi_yeah_nah_dud oof
You know what wasn't disappointing about it?
'Where Are We Going?'
Shadsy The Hedgehog that version is so good
@Chase Lassiter are u assuming that the possible thing has a gender?????
That's true tho but I liked the magmagat
I'd say that was the one enjoyable thing about the map. The new version of the song. It brought more depth to the original and had just as much feeling to it which was honestly great.
That was great
I was such a fan of Mob of the Dead that, living in California, I begged my parents to go on vacation in San Francisco to visit Alcatraz. It happened, and that time of my life was absolutly euphoric. Such an experience both on my computer and in real life.
Did it look like mob of the dead
@@nathanscales783 lmao
@@nathanscales783 I went there. Can confirm it was like motd. Saw bodies hanging and everything 😁
I would like to go to Alcatraz
Same, but I never went
0:16-0:24 when you need to reach the word count for your essay
😂😂😂
*Disappoint*
Disappoint for the next 100000000 hours
i could easily get a paragraph out of that sentence, tim is slacking lol
Imagine if they just remastered mob of the dead for BO3 zombies chronicles, would of been so much better
And put origins in bo4
@@chase6453 no. Bo4 is unplayable. Why put arguably the best map on the worst zombies game to date?
@@BrownBear636 I love origins, I love it more than mob, which is also arguably the best map of all time so either one of the two was gonna get butchered, but they could've made origins even bigger, which would've been awesome if it wasn't bo4
@@BrownBear636 origins is mediocre.
@@chase6453 it was originally going to be bigger but they had to cut an area behind the church
At the very least, the bridge could’ve been the boss fight location
Were talking treyarch here when did they get good ideas lol
@@karlg326 they had great ideas but this isnt the same trayarch anymore
@@karlg326 I mean treyarch literally came up with zombies but ok
And instead of just having a plane, who not have several steps to get teleporter parts that teleport you to the bridge and the boss is like brutus but as a giant a d some new abilities and like previous wonder weapons, like bows and staffs, why not have something like elemental hammers or even a elemental swords
Blood of the Dead is good, just some nitpicks.
One on BO4.
Two Easiest boss fight ever, and I played Zetsubou.
Three No Elemental Blundergats.
9:21 “why are we overcomplicating that?” Is literally Black Ops 4 as a whole
“Why’re we overcomplicating that?”
Sir we started the storyline out with an element turning people into zombies and they managed to turn it into. 20 DIMENSIONS, SHANGRI-LA IS ON MARS. THE CYCLE IS A SIMULATION. And you’re complaining about how a moving pack-a-punch machine is overcomplicating things?
@@spoongaming9507 the problem is that in Bo1 for example the easter eggs were difficult and complicated but enjoyable because the gameplay, with the old perk systems and the not tedious pack a punch path, was much more effictive and simple than Bo4. I think the mistake of Treyarch was making the gameplay of Bo4 as difficult as the story with the all new perk system that nobody asked and pack a punches that required hours and hours of game; in fact imo the same errors were made with gorod krovi, zetsubou no shima and revelations in bo3
SpoonGaming pretty simple, complicated and hard to figure out story = good, complicated and hard to figure out mechanics = bad, any questions?
CyberJam98 I have no problems with bo4, I like it. You guys shut up
CyberJam98 Honestly, BO4 was not a bad game. Of course it wasn’t the best but it was still a pretty enjoyable game. Literally nothing got overcomplicated, I love that they are trying to change things up for once instead of going for the same game each and every time.
“Don’t fix it if it’s not broke”
General trashYT that’s literally referring to all of zombies before they changed it up for bo4 when nothing was wrong with perks and the hud and just everything why were there so many changes keep it the way it was we’ve loved it for a decade the way it was
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob black ops 4 in nutshell
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob but bo4 did offer a lot more than any game before it the ability to customize your gameplay and game style ,the old Perk machines and the new system are nothing different we act like if we ever switched perks once we went down, we g up and ran and grabbed the same 4 perks despite having multiple perk machines and a wunderfizz,the way they did it was your going to use 4 main perks anyways why not cut out the running around and just give you 4 main perks that you can choose from,the game got so ridiculously easy with bo3 especially with gobble guys, what before did right was punish you for using elixirs as the more you used then the longer it would take to regenerate,vs gums you could keep spinning as much as you want ,the difficulty on bo3 wasn’t as big as the difficulty in bo4 you had more enemies to worry about and more tight areas than bo3,they also added something to balance all the advantages a player can have by adding a hardcore and a realistic mode something zombies players don’t touch because it’s hard making it past round 5, apparently it’s way to hard,it also did the customization thing as you choose how you want to start op or not, vs bo3 your forcibly started op with perkaholic and rain drops really ruining the progression, with bo4 everything was option you didn’t have to be op at the start,bo4 has more of a harder game element that previous games,it definitely was a step in the right direction,just ppl didn’t like the fact they couldn’t have jug and if it wasn’t for activision the game would’ve released at a later time with a lot of stability fixes and could’ve had a better life cycle
@@JulioHernandez-vi9to Did you just said that in BO4 you choose to be OP and in BO3 not?
Dude, what have you been smoking, in BO4 even if you cripple yourself by picking the most trash weapons in your loadout, you literally spawn with a wonder weapon
And I love how you say "In BO4 you choose if you wanna be OP" but then you say that you can't do that in BO3 because of Gobblegums, I'm not sure what were you thinking when saying "You're OP becuz you start with Perkaholic" when that's totally customizable, in BO3 you ACUALLY can choose wether to start OP or not, in BO4 you just start with a wonder weapon on cooldown and you can't choose to not have it
@@JulioHernandez-vi9to what this guy said^^
This map felt like a custom map because of how much it changed
It's basically the same, just remastered and more space?
@@isaiahwalking no
Except it's a shitty custom map
bo4 maos just look shitty, because the game in general looked shit
@@isaiahwalking yikes bro 3 times...
Developers: hmm how many spawns should we put in blood
Treyarch:Yes
Every one else:7383838383883839383938394848848474748488484838
I think that's a bo4 problem in general
@Sandra J. Francis thanks Kanye, very cool
@@tianapreator9224 thats really an issue with you trashcans?
This comment is so funny😂😂 just yes I can picture that in my head
I kind of liked Blood of the Dead but we need a true remaster.
Yea..I enjoy playing blood of the dead..no experience on mob of the dead.
Same
I agree blood of the dead was good gameplay-wise but didnt feel like mob did back then
Botd is a remake not a remaster
@@rubenrosario7226 Yeah we know
The trailer for this however was amazing. The chills...
0:47 well, thats not November friendly
FACTS
No nut november?
The whole aether story in bo4 was a giant letdown after the epic quest we had in bo3. The game play definitely was a giant factor in why blood failed also.
MasterChief doomguy revelations ending is trash 🗑 as well
SpiderMonkeyNuts it might not have been the ending people wanted but it fits very well with the story of zombies. With everything being in a constant loop
If there wouldn't be that much glitchey or players who using glitches having no skill it would be great and a better search player list if you leave a lobby and join like 15 sec later i join the same group it really sucks
@@spidermonkeynuts3851 even though the ending sucked, the end photo is wallpaper worthy for me : )
Bruh yall where saying bo3 sucked ass and bo2 was amazing back in the day
"Mob of the Dead is one of the greatest maps of all time" and always will be.
Amen to that i love playing mob of the dead on bo2 i think they did a remake on bo3 for lots of old bo1 and bo2 maps as well
No it’s not...it’s such a shit map. Blood > Mob 🤷🏾♂️
@@BarackObaba
Why are you gay?
TheZombieWacker is that all you’ve got? What’s wrong with being gay? Please keep it moving nob head 🙄
I dont know you tell me whats wrong
Trearch: We're remaking MOTD
Me seeing how much they changed it: *"AiNt tHaT sWeLL!"*
Mazin Law My boy Tommy, HE’S ALMOST 6 NOW.
@James Hobson YOU GONNA SHUT HIM UP, OR AM I GONNA HAVE TO DO IT
@Da Nae nae Better be real this time.
As you reach for your revolver while Jason Blundell is looking away
@@drownsinkoolaid4203 what the fuck? 💥🔫
And to think my parents called me the biggest dissapointment
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Man...
@@rouk2621 I mean they are not wrong
Well, not really to me... but I'm starting to think they think i am one to them?
mood
mood
“Dad, you’re playing BOTD!? Can I play with?”
“I’m not playing BOTD,” tears come up, “I’m playing something different, I’m playing a BOTD that should’ve happened...”
10:11 I literally just finished making my smoothie with a blender and heard “they threw mob of the dead in the blender”
Tim: why was Richtofens blood so important for the Easter Egg
Radios: "are we a joke to you"
I think what makes Mob of the Dead one of the best Zombies maps ever, (and what makes it interesting,) is the fact that it takes place in Alcatraz, a real-life prison. And because of it's unique and deep story!
Alcatraz is definitely the coolest idea for a Zombies map they’ve had, but that’s hardly the only reason.
MOTD also had (in my opinion) the best group of characters, the coolest version of Revive to date, an actually functional Hell’s Retriever/Redeemer, one of the sickest wonder-weapons ever made (and the base version could probably be made IRL if you really wanted to), and the best artistic theming in Zombies to date (MOTD is both scary and low-key depressing which is perfect).
MOTD nearly perfected all aspects of a Zombies map right down to the fabric, and it remains my favorite map of all time for that.
I just like the demonic aesthetic.
This map made my heart lose it's blood faster than Richtofen
*_big oof_*
Dam
Biff_m B0ne nice
Biff_m B0ne no this is the best map in bo4
@@brandonmarzka1420 ur noob trash than
I'd love this entire series redone with a modern view of zombie, blood of isn't seen as shit anymore because people see it for what it is now.
Its not like his videos are subjective in the first place ...
@@philippxphilstructionz9348 everyones opinion is subjective, something most of the community views as bad is still a subjective opinion no matter how you spin it.
The boss fight should've been on the bridge, ending the cycle like the last four did.
Then again budget cuts probably fucked it all up.
The budget cuts didn’t happen until around Ancient Evil. Treyarch had no excuse.
@@zombies4evadude24 I mean Activision was pretty ol’ grumpy always drinking during work and harassing the women meanwhile they were forcing Treyarch with a new black ops 4 game with new zombies mode as well. Treyarch had no idea how to continue leading it so to be safe they made aether story and chaos story. Nobody liked chaos story, so they stuck with aether story and it got bit dry from there. Finally ended the aether story once for all with a mediocre ending instead of a fucked up ending.
Got a fan made for this:
After being trapped they would have turn on power and try to find a way out. They would eventually start gathering parts. They would fight and fight until the warden captures them and the ghost frees them and they run to the rooftop and builds the plane. They fly off but hit the bridge. They would encounter Brutus and the boss fight would happen. Post revelation Richthofen would come and save Primis. The ending cutscene is shown.......
Treyarch treated BOTD as a safety net to insure that older players would come back to BO4. They made it too familiar and yet so different (in the wrong way). Honestly, they could have just kept the old story and brought back the old characters while still including elements of the aether story to it, but in my opinion they overcomplicated everything and made it really difficult to love a map that was so highly anticipated.
Weelllll I mean that's the problem with using a celebrity cast. They may not agree to return to remake or even create new quotes. And you can't use their vocals again without payment or permission.
I respect you for that
@@joeygrannemangranneman2033 damn that's a really good point. I'd hope they would be up for it due to it being such a big hit among fans, but I would understand if they were working on other projects.
Joeygranneman Granneman exactly what happened with Malcolm McDowell AKA dr Monty, who didn’t come back for BO4 to do any voice work and actively refused, hence why Monty was never seen talking or doing anything really outside Alpha Omega’s ending, further restricting the zombies team on what they could pull off with the story, alongside Activision’s budget cuts.
Welp, that's what happens when idiots are blinded by Nostalgia,....why do you think theyre makin ANOTHER Black Ops?..
Pack-A-Punch: *moves*
Mystery Box: Am I a joke to you?
Every one mob>dead
Me blood>mob
Tim new area is useles
Me how pack a punch,power,wolf,skull,wall guns and easter egg!!!
Bad take.
Irritated me so hard seeing you running around packing your MOG when your unupgraded Magmagat was just sitting there
He is poop
Tim: *night*
Me: *day*
Me: oh yeah it's all coming together
Clever my boi
I really like the map, I do agree that its not as great as mob but its still pretty good by itself. The new areas (apart from the spawn) where good additions, and isnt "unnecessary", as they give 2 box locations, a dog head, good training area, a work bench, magmagat upgrade, pack a punch and a really good trap. The catwalk was a very good risk reward part, its a tough walk through it but it gives you a lot of points. And I like the flow, going down to the second power switch makes sense as it takes you through shield locations and its the first main objective for the map. But I understand why people don't like it that much and respect that.
Just Another Guy ok boomer
Just Another Guy omg you are my hero
Just Another Guy You still gonna make that video?
@Just Another Guy it’s late but I couldn’t agree more. I’m so tired of hearing people in general complain about BO4 because their favorite RUclipsr said they don’t like it. They complain about the maps being tedious and complicated yet maps like mob, origins and shadows are tedious fetch quests and they are always in their top 5 maps. If you’re going to hate on BO4 that’s fine, but have a more original and specific reason than “the engine”. My god have I never heard a more vague and generic reason to hate on a game
The only thing I'm really disappointed in is richtofen's death😞
I love it when you get the spoon playing as Richthofen it was hilarious
Richtofen seriously puts on a show for this map, he knows his time is coming and he delivers!
Genuinely bo2 was the best time for me personally in zombies. The maps tested my skill and the story was interesting to say the least. Then blundell came in, and zombies changed. It was no longer about a crazy mineral that had weird properties and electricity. It became mythical and magical. Not only that, but the maps he helped create run BO2 and BO3 were maps that any player could play, and they offered a lot in return. Whether a complete noob to a veteran player. Mob, origins, buried, and all of BO3 zombies, they were all inclusive and anyone could play. Then Bo4 came and mucked everything up, continuing a story that should’ve ended in the previous title, and introducing a new story as well as a completely new system that was no longer inclusive. This new system pushed people away, it made the game harder to play, and forced those who were loyal to grind long hours or to spend money to win, the weapons were no longer good and wonder weapons were a joke to say the least. I understand the new system with the new story line, but it just didn’t belong in aether. Black ops 4 was over ambitious, poorly executed, not handled properly, and was a poor excuse for a money grab. I’d say bring back the good days of zombies, let console players have mod and custom map support, and bring back jug. But honestly zombies is just to far gone for me especially with BO5 supposedly bringing the goddamned Aether story back... AGAIN!!!! God!!! Why won’t you just die already!!!!!
Well, I agree that it's not noob friendly, because you should study a lot to properly play a map, but I find the gameplay a lot easier actually
Shane Tressler I’m ok with bo5 bringing the rather storyline come back as long as they fix the mistake they made in origins by “killing” Primis and Ultimus off.(in quotes as you mentioned it will be coming back so I hope they aren’t dead for good.) I was so disappointed with where they honestly left Arthur after dragging its name through the mud. I think it deserves a bit of redemption just to bring it to a respectable end instead of missing everything such as the Great War, dr Monty, post revelations richtofen and so on.
I agree except I really don't want bo5 and if they do it then put it on bo3 engine not a bucherd bo4 engine
In my opinion, im just tired of Blackops titles its like..be NEW do something DIFFERENT FOR HELLS SAKE. Sorry im just so sick and tired of these "Blackops" titles. For god saks we've been on that title since 2010 its time to get a new one.
I would perfer Aether in BO5 than Chaos (nothing wrong with Chaos, just Aether is better) and bring back Primis and Ultimis
I feel like the bridge wouldn't fit the theme of the map like it did in MOTD, but they definitely should have made it way more interesting
Instead you have the new industries area with the best or second best trap ever in zombies. I think it makes up for that
“The wardens house is there just to... be there.”
ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE EASTER EGG. WARDENS ATTIC??
That guy is bias af and will trash any map he doesnt like , suck d about every map he likes
It might not live up to Mob of The Dead but it’s pretty good on it own merits. Aside from the unnecessarily bigger layout, moving pack a punch with no indication of where it is, and the removal of past elements that made mob of the dead fun, Blood Of The Dead is pretty solid.
I don't think its too bad much
“Mob of the Dead is generally considered one of, if not, the best zombies map ever.”
*TranZit: Am I a joke to you?*
Puff -_- nope ....
Yes
No no see, Tranzit IS a joke and that's why we love it.
Huntwolf transit is not a joke it is clearly the best map every made ( even more than die rise )
TranZit is great........................with mods
watching this i really wish blood of the dead was black ops 4 gem because the remastered maps probably would've been enjoyed more than they were
I feel the story was actually excellent, and was needed in terms of continuity, but unfortunately a lot of the areas were implemented only to serve the story and nothing else. A player who doesn’t do Easter eggs will never touch the Wardens house after the magmagat, or Richtofens lab aftwr spawning in. They needed these areas, but also needed to implement them better in the map
I had never played the og Mob Of The Dead, so when I played this, this was my first time, and I actually love it. But they both have pros and cons.
Same
You should def play mob of the dead. Usually it’s people who haven’t played these games a lot that like them. I respect your opinion, but you should try to check out the OG
Same
@@alienkiller0012 i played mob of the dead way back in the day, loved it. With blood, all i see is an improvement
@@Nekiplex how?
I thought BOTD was good guess I'm the 1%er played that map more then any other zombies map ever but I do agree it was oversized
It really isnt oversized
@@callmepaul843 Theres a lot of wasted space tho
@@ibrahimahmed2963 not when you do the easter egg, you're gonna need most of the map
@@Elusiv00 yh but in normal gameplay you'll never visit areas like rhe spawn room
@@ibrahimahmed2963 if i am honest, i do sometimes return to the spawn room, but only as an emercency fallback point. if the zombies have blocked all other paths, i find myself retreating to the spawn room to give myself more space
Loving IX more than blood, dead of the night, alpha omega tag, and ancient evil is something only people who haven't really played bo4 have as an opinion.
Tim has probably played it more then you. And when did Tim say he loves lx more then ancient evil. Ancient evil is one of his favorite maps oat
“A good map incorporates the starting room” no it doesn’t, you’re just grasping at straws. Origins you barely ever go back, buried you need to teleport back, shadows of evil you never go back, zetsubo you never go back, and IX you literally just can’t get back in the little room
1. Yes, you do go back to the starting rooms for Origins and Shadows of Evil because they have Quick Revive. Unless you want to end your game quickly, I suggest you go back and get Quick Revive when you need it.
2. Zetsubou No Shima has the bucket you need to grab and some other stuff in the starting room, so you don't "never go back."
3. The beginning room in IX where you walk out into the actual starting room isn't a starting room. Stop nitpicking, that was literally just a 2 second intro to the map, nothing happens in that small room until you leave it, it's literally there for cinematic value.
4. Blood of the Dead has a completely worthless starting room. All of the other starting rooms you mentioned have some value and some have important things you need like Quick Revive. You're just proving Tim's point with your pointless comment.
@@ElectrikStatik900 out of all of those blood of the dead is the only one which starting room is used in the Easter egg. And it’s used for multiple steps and even go through the starting room to a secret entrance to get to the boss fight. Not only that but it also has a large relevance to the story and the pods are also very important. Not very tough to figure these things out.
@@DLGNT You can also go back to get your free monkey bombs
Yet he likes Zetsubou no Shima, which has more wasted spaces and a worse layout.
Welllll technically you need the Hell’s Retriever to upgrade the shield
And the spork
BigHuskyGaming no you don’t
Just Another Guy Oh i didn’t know what the tomahawk thing was called. Thought he saying you needed to upgrade the tomahawk before upgrading the shield.
And you also need it to get de blundergat wich is the wonder weapon so yes there is a reason to pick the hells retreiver on blood of the dead
Yeah but do you really need to upgrade your shield?
Dempsey: *finds a postcard* greetings from hell wish you were here
I really liked Blood Of The Dead because I had never played Mob Of The Dead because I did not know that it existed I always thought Blood Of The Dead was the first map of Alcatraz. I do enjoy most of Blood Of The Dead but, I am starting to realize that it is not as good as I first thought but, I still enjoy the map
Blood Of The Dead is A-/B+ Tier map but if you really wanna compare it to MOB and what BOTD is missing in comparison then still atleast C+ Tier. There is objectively nothing wrong with the map itself besides not knowing where PAP is - rather just gets dragged down a bit due to BO4. BO4 got too much hate when in reality all maps are solid.
The changes nobody asked for are not as bad as everyone makes it out be. Some changes make even sense like the specialist/5x PAP/pointsystem. Only the equipment/not being able to have a secondary equipment is bad because it makes the hell's retriever/monkeys etc useless when in reality the wraith fire is just better. The zombies spawns and movement is subobjective if you like it or not and that will eventually break the map for you, but i really have no problem in training with zombies. Oh and the biggest flaw of bo4 the hellion salvo. Already why every map on this game couldnt be a perfect map sadly.
so imma tell you a detailed topic of why BOTD is a bad map
so stop fanboying
lets look at the BOTD pros shall we
The Emotional Ending Cutscene
The Adrenaline of the catwalk... at the start of the game
The Magama Gat and quest
The Hells retriever quest
.... and that's it
now let's look at the VERY LONG list of the BOTD cons lets look into it shall we
The irrelevance of some part of the maps
Example1:The Docks all the way where you turn on the 2nd switch
who in the living fuck dick will ever go there after you setup
I guarantee the devs saw that there was nothing there so they put a fucking spoon upgrade that should've been in the prison, they changed the spot to just change it
Example2:The Wardens House after you get the magma gat there is no fucking reason to ever go back there cause
1.its a death sentence after round 25 cause sprinters will %100 try to corner you in the 1 zombie wide hallway
2.you have no space to train in there
3.it doesn't matter if there's a quest thing that you can do there, they could've thrown the magma gat step INTO the prison so again wasted space
Example3: The First Power Location the only fucking thing that is relevant about this play is the perk location... that's it
The High Rounding
...fuck me in the ass this is probably one of the worst high rounding attempts I've ever played in Treyarch zombies
I will admit that the workshop is suitable for high rounds
but since its black ops 4 and since the ZOMBIES in bo4 after round 50 spawns in super sprinters, what are super sprinters you ask, super sprinters are basically sprinters but faster than Usain bolt the problem about this
1.they will 100% fuck up your train
2.if you get caught off guard they will try to corner you and try to down you in a second cause they will swipe at you fucking fast
3.The Zombie Spawns
speaking of zombie spawns let's talk about that gondola right now
there was a reason to pick the gondola instead of running from the warden's office down to where the docks
1.its faster
2.its a kinda relief travel
but in BOTD there is no reason to go on the gondola past round 20 because the zombie spawns in bo4 are so fucking fast that they will 100% spawn in front of you in large groups leading into a down
it's not like "wow I suck dick if I was better I could've avoided that"
but in this situation, it's like "I literally couldn't do anything else there "
and I know your gonna say "why don't you just use the magma gat"
well you can but it's inconsistent
sometimes when you shoot the ground the zombies will ACTUALLY run to the projectile
and other times they will completely ignore it and run straight at you
this is a grand problem and will lead to a death that will annoy you
so now imma give you 10 seconds to see the big ass mammoth in your room
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there's no bridge, there is no fucking bridge they got rid of it remember crafting the plane getting on the plane and then riding it to the bridge, and then PAP was there, what a fucking reward...not there anymore that's all gone matter affect there's a MOVING PAP where you have to get 3 zombie souls and then shield blast the electrical outlet at the roof, devs why are we complicating that. The bridge tho it doesn't make sense to have it in BOTD is still a MAJURE piece gone
oh and let's talk about that spectral shield right now
they replaced the afterlife which was the highlight of MOTD and replaced it imma say that the blast to kill the zombies is REALLY good but the way to activate it to put the key into the shield to shoot the blast...WHY ISNT THE KEY ALREADY IN THE FUCKING SHIELD LIKE MOTD
and also the upgraded spectral shield the only thing it helps about is that it takes 5 more hits and it takes 2 more ghost blasts...that's it unlike the upgraded shield from Gorod Krovi it's SOOOOOO fucking strong and it takes more than 4 shots... I think
oh I forgot btw the hells redeemer the process to get it not even fucking worth it, literally have not even gone for it, I looked up a tutorial to see how to get it, not even fucking worth it, you might as well just get the monkey bombs or the free ones. Cause the hells redeemer is useless and that's another huge thing gone
I know that I'm more talking about gameplay but sure imma talk about the story too
I like the BOTD story but personally, I love the MOTD storyline
you have these 4 monsters that are trapped in this endless cycle of purgatory that was created by the shadow man and they try to escape the island that was inspired by a real escape, which in my opinion is way more intriguing than the BOTD storyline
I feel like they could've just left this map fucking alone, I wish that they never remade this map I wish that BOTD never existed cause it was its own entity, like SOE
Shadows of evil are its own entity you have these 4 people that sinned and were placed in this hell hole of a zombified Morg City which is pretty interesting and please for god sake do not remake SOE
if I had to give this map a rating I would give it a 4.9/10 E Tier
@@kellomies7897 "the irrelevance of some parts of the map" lmao so much wrong stuff its actually crazy. high rounding :DD laughing my ass off
One sighted view is also a nice thing - you see people actually like to camp to in the china alley and camping there makes the hells retriever/redeemer really valuable because of picking up drops when spaming magmagat/acidgat (i also dont have the problem of zombies still coming at me, funny because that happend with the acidgat while shooting with it on MOTD 2 days ago). When camping in the ice grotto on TDT makes the stupid explosive dolls even a valuable option, then clearly the hells retriever/redeemer is one aswell here.
It was never supposed to be MOB and its also not as good as MOB but it doesnt have to be. Just nostalgia hurt feelings i guess. You have your specialist, the acid/magmagat and victorious tortoise so clearly when zombies are infront of you after using the gondola it really shouldnt be a problem. I really dont have any interest in going on at all lol
@@kellomies7897 holy fack nobody cares about your copy and paste opinion with wrong information like in this video. I dont think you even played this map lmao You gonna comment this everywhere every months?
We get it you dont like the map, but we dont care. Zombie community is full of trash like you. Map is great, we enjoy it and can explain and not just copy and paste. You dont like it? Cool comment it once lmao lil child obsessed with a zombiemap. You already took a nice L here just leave and stop embrassing yourself
@@kellomies7897 second sentence is "stop fanboying" you took the L and just fanboy Tim and his bum opinion.
That guy Kellomies is such a fraud. First location useless lmao doesnt know how to play the map
I’m just waiting for Zombie Chronicles 2
DiamondSamurai me too
The mechanics of Black Ops 4 Zombies are trash that no maps can save it.
On bo3
Zombies chronicles 2 would definitely be better on black ops 3 engine it would be even better if they add victis
Same
All of BO4 was a disappointment 😒
Peter _115 recycle bin
Peter _115 Dumpster fire
Nah, the chaos maps were awesome.
@@cristhianmontoya6648 IX was awesome, the rest were eh
Peter _115 the only 3 maps I enjoyed were, IX, Classified, and Ancient Evil
While technically BOTD is based on MOTD, I think you can see it in a while different light if you think of it as a separate entity. They were not trying to make MOTD remastered, which is why so many things were changed. The characters, the bridge, the boss fight, and so many other things that made MOTD unique were removed, and I think that was probably a good choice. These are what made MOTD unique. BOTD would not be a unique map if it copied everything over. The bridge was cool because it was original and unique to MOTD. We had never seen anything like it, but now we have. It would not be original or unique if they had simply the same pack-a-punch scenario.
While I do agree that the starting room is pretty irrelevant unless you are doing the easter egg, I do disagree about the Power House and New Industries. There are plenty of things there, including a power switch, Pack a Punch location, mystery box location, a dog for the Hell’s retriever, and a perk. And this doesn’t even include the easter egg steps that go on there. There is plenty of stuff to do there in earlier rounds, but not on later rounds. I do not think this is a fair arguement to make, as like in pretty much any other map including MOTD, once you are set up, you will pretty much stay and camp or train in one place just like in BOTD. I also do not see a problem with the addition of the Warden’s house. This is very important for the easter egg, and is also important for the magmagat upgrade. It is very ideal for that upgrade process, due to its small and linear design, which makes the lockdown more difficult. I really can’t think of another place on the map where the upgrade process could work, and the house is so small that you really aren’t losing anything with its inclusion
Now, in regards to the Hells Retriever, I do agree that it is not worth it, but I would consider this a problem with BO4 and would not blame BOTD for this. Anyways, those are my thoughts. I really think they were in the right in changing up MOTD. They could not just do the same thing for BOTD, as while it may have been really cool to see a MOTD remaster at first, it quickly would have become forgotten, as there would be nothing separating it from its predecessor. This is BOTD, not MOTD, and if you look at it that way I think it is a really good map.
People only dislike it due to MOTD comparison when it was never supposed to be a remastered anyway.
Its objectively great but bo4 has some flaws like as you mentioned the hells retriever , where its not worth it to trade away your wraith fire. Honestly it would be a S Tier map aswell but bo4 mechanics, which make the maps far easier and then you have the hellion salvo aswell .. thats why i put it in B Tier. If you dont compare it to MOB then i see nothing wrong with the map itself besides the bo4 mechanics but thats honestly with most of the bo4 maps. I think they are all solid ngl
Great comment
@@kingfatih It looks like Nostalgia ruined their experience
@@a7md_102 true
I disagree about the West Grounds being irrelevant cause in my opinion they’re the best training area in the map with one of the best traps for high rounds
New pap is “over complicated”(shooting a thing with a shield) but building a plane and flying over Isn’t. Respect ur opinion but that point is just hypocritical to me
He is hypocritical af its obvs which maps he likes and doesnt. So his analysis video will only list good things or flaws depending on that.
If you look at the progression of both maps it’s obvious that building the plane helps to create a sense of escalation and pacing. Each part has a simple requirement attached to it. Once it’s finished you get to go to a fun training area that switches up the gameplay for pack a punch. Once that’s done all you need to do is find the fuel canisters near the original part locations, they’re not hard to find and none of the parts are complicated to get.
Blood’s system on the other hand is build a shield and shoot a thing. On paper this seems more simple but the fact that the PaP moves with 0 indication of where it’s moved to is just inexcusable. They had a perfectly good model for moving and it in Call of the Dead. It’s a matter of sloppy design. In terms of accessing PaP Blood is obviously quicker but long term you waste so much time running around aimlessly only to engage with a PaP system that already feels like a bit of a time waste.
9:45 JUST PICK UP THE MAX AMMO IT'S GONNA DESPAWN
You do realize he picks it up at 10:57... chill out, dude...
FN WolframE is joke
@@ImSoConfucius He didn't sound like it, lmao...
FN WolframE okay
Lol you would hate me then I wait till that shits blinking fast
Richtofens blood has the most aetherial energy I'm a storyline guy when it comes to COD zombies
I love how you can here where are we going in the back ground
Honestly most of your videos have me going, "well, I'm sure I disagree but I'll hear him out"
"Blood of the Dead Was Disappointing"? lol Thats like the "no shit" statement of the year
Holy shit crash power?! Dude I loved your old origins videos
The god of origins guides himself😂😂😂
Legend!
I love this easter egg it's such a good easter egg imo not lying
This is not my favorite map. However, it is one of the few maps that me and my fiends had a good time on when we actually decided to play this game.
Those maps were BOTD, IX, and Ancient Evil.
Blood of the Dead (how I wish it was)
Spawn:
Finn: what the hell? We broke the cycle
Sal: Weasel, you killed us?
Weasel: yeah... about that I-
Billy: stop talking, let's get shit done
Actual writers would do better, but that was an idea that came to my head.
The map could've been an upgrade in graphics- nvm, I'll take bo2 graphics. Then Richtoften and the gang could've been behind some sort of door (cotd) or in the cells they get sent to in botd ee.
We would play as the mobsters after they broke the cycle. Maybe the easter egg could've been referencing motd or maybe cotd if they went with the behind a door approach and it would've referenced an amazing map.
Brent Kirkland I feel like Billy interrupting Weasel wouldn’t really work and feel forced. Richthofen interrupting them would feel much better in my opinion
I feel like this is genuinely such a better idea than what Treyarch did because in short they fixed problems that never even existed in the first place and maybe they could’ve gone off your idea and then they could escape Alcatraz in the ee and arriving in a place that one of the characters knew well like an old abandoned childhood neighborhood or school or whatever and finding themselves yet again fighting zombies and then after them not wanting to keep going and fighting zombies they could’ve ended their storyline with them all back at Alcatraz and sacrificing themselves or one person
Only issue with this in my eyes would be the crew. Getting actors back isnt easy...then again Exp Zombies did it but who knows. Sheduling is a bitch
*SPOILERS*
After breaking the cycle, they were free, they were souls. Only reason why they had physical bodies was because Brutus was keeping them there to repent for their sins, hence the afterlife. in game you can control afterlife but story wise not really. what happens is that all 4 go through the cycle and when they kill al, they start over back at Alcatraz and their soul is put back into their body from the start, hence the cycle. once the cycle is broken, they all dont have to die anymore so their souls are released. So if by your "better idea" it wouldnt have made sense if they remastered the map and all 4 OG MOTD crew had physical bodies because they were long gone past their time. *this is only if you want the supposed MOTD remastred map to follow Aether storyline* if not then it wouldnt be a bad idea but it would be a map like from chronicles in bo3, retelling the story just in better graphics
I remember loving this map- buuut I haven’t played Bo4 consistently since February so- I’d have to replay it to know what I actually think at this point.
I’m loving these videos man. You single handedly got me invested in zombies again (have not played since BO1). Looking to pick up BO3 W/zombie chronically soon. Keep it up!
Thorin Dellacqua you’re gonna love BO 3!
0:10 You were on the Mob Of The Dead page prolly..
I actually enjoyed the map. The narrative was my favorite out of any other map. The soundtrack is the best. But I can agree the Map Design was not nice.
Ngl this is my favorite zombies map ever.
It’s simple, fun and I love the new design of this map. Even compared to Mob I love it so much more. The story just feels so epic to me. I love it
Was convinced I was the only one who loved this map lol
Drederick Alfonso dude I was so scared to buy bo4 because all I heard was the maps were trash. Mob was my favorite map ever next to gorod krovi. I got on and played my first game of blood and was amazed. I loved everything about the map now. It really feels like hell. Love bo4 zombies in general
I, personally disagree with you. There's a lot of things I hate about Blood. The ee, the lack of good training spots, the many claustrophobic spaces, you know by now. However, I respect your opinion, I wish I could love the map.
I like blood it’s fun, but It doesn’t hold up to the other maps Imo
........riiight..
BO4 itself sucked so much.
Correct
Y'know I forget that BO4 exists most times.
Nah some mechanics dragged the maps a bit down but the game is good
I like blood because im to cheap to pay 50$ for more maps.
Loving the background piano of "Where are we going."
I stopped after he said the spawn has no value
I like blood of the dead
To be honest I like the map blood if the dead I disagree with you but also respect your opinion about blood of the dead
If only that opinion would be just more than "ITS NOT MOB"
Tim:Look how they massacred my boy
Also Tim:This map is actually kinda good
7:30 but i can pass the catwalk on solo without using specialist its not that hard 😕
Yea you just run across on wave one easy as hell
@Just Another Guy yea i take the catwalk on wave one just melee all but one zombie open new industrys door turn on power melee everything on the catwalk 5 or 6 thousand points easy
@Just Another Guy huzza a man of quality 😅
i think it is just a excuse to shit on BOTD, shitty move TIM
The whole game was a disappointment, but I still think it's great.
cloverleafsippa713 All these maps in BO3 would be dozens of times better and more replay-able. BO4 zombies is just so goddamn bad.
The only thing I like is blackout.
Ix was the only good map
Blood of the dead is the sequel to mob of the dead. The story ties everything together. The locations you say are “insignificant” are extremely significant to the story. The lab is where richtofen created the blood vials. Mob is where the cycle was created by the blood vials in a sense. And blood is where the cycle and the blood vials were destroyed.
That wasn’t his issue with the areas. His issue is gameplay wise, unless you are doing the Easter egg, there is literally no reason to return to Rictofen’s Lab or that new area unless you need to get your Perk back. It adds nothing to the gameplay.
All right Tim if you hate blood of the dead you hate a little amount of non of the dead,I’m tired of you saying this bad stuff about blood of the dead all the time and never talk about the good things on this map
Its always like that if he doesnt like a map personally.
Bias af
Facts
7:07 That pretty much sums up my first botd playthrough lol
Imo it's an ok map as it's own entity. But as a motd remake, it's pretty bad.
@Just Another Guy you are a true man of culture
congrats on 400k bro you deserved it for all the great content 😁
You forgot to mention that you can’t do the Easter egg in a private match
You can do it in a private match. But not in local
Tim: Why are we over Overcomplicating that?
Primis storyline: (; • ▽ •)
after never rly playing motd, i like botd
I think a good way they could have kept the golden gate bridge as the pack a punch location in blood and making the spawn area more relevant is by having you find 3 codes around the map we can call them “emergency exit codes” or something like that then in similar fashion to Alpha Omega you input those 3 codes into a key pad in the laboratory on the spawn room and once all the codes have been put in, a secret door opens in the laboratory, and behind that door there is a SOE type of portal you have to press square/X to open it like in SOE and instead of the portal being blue like in the intro cutscene of blood its red , then our characters like richtofen could’ve said a quote like “gentlemen I have found a way out. quick! Jump through!” Then our characters proceed to teleport to the bridge and richtofen could say a line like “Oh no, something has gone wrong the emergency exit portal didn’t work! We are still stuck in this hellish dimension Scheisse!!!” And pack a punch would be there and if we want to go back to the prison we would have to survive a round in the bridge for a portal to appear to take us back to the prison and if we want to go back to pack a punch we would have to wait another round in the prison for us to be able to open the portal again. I think that would be pretty sick and would have gave more relevance to the spawn room and the area around it.
I thought the warden's house was to try to make like "a different form of evil" cause how untouched it was in a way.
Blood is a good map on its own, not a good remaster/remake
Tim: Blood of the Dead is a disappointment
BO4 fans: *so you have chosen death*
but it was disappointing
@@mrb4783 oh no don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you, but the BO4 fanboys won't
@@Itsryukari I don't know how this game has fans other then blackout
@@mrb4783 Well, tbh the only idiots who are fans of this trash are the zombies clowns blinded by nostalgia for the past 4 3arch COD's...
Am I the only one that loves this map
Noo
This video is bad ngl
Nop :)
I really liked mob of the dead but one thing I genuinely hated about it was the Pack-a-punch, I mean sure crashing down to the golden gate bridge is cool for like the first 3 times but doing the steps is so overly complicated and difficult. Blood of the dead is simple with its pack a punch, make a shield and do a spirit blast. You get a shield AND a way to get pack-a-punch, thats fucking awesome. I do think Blood of the Dead made Mob of the Dead more over the top and cartoony much like other modern zombies maps but I think it fixed that glaring issue perfectly.
looking back on this comment i regret it. Blood of the dead is meh, still fun to play tho
@@BeyMediaVids its good.
Meanwhile in the thumnail image:
"Alcatraz!"
"Rictofen."
"oh? you're approching me? Instead of buying a perk you'd rather pack-a-punch?"
"i can't speedrun the easter egg without activating you first."
"Oh. Then activate me all you want!"
Aha ... was this supposed to be a joke ?
You're a fucking plague JoJo fans
@@marfull8946 love you too
@Eliel Nylund i agree
@@gaymer8196 I know man, everybody loves me xd
you know what can´t dissapoint you? IW zombies *wink* *wink* since you spent 60 dolars maybe you could play some more IW with challenges, friends etc. *wink* *wink*
I should punch you in your big toe
8rdi I actually liked IW Zombies, it was really fun to me
@@TheMilkMan905 how did you know about my big toes...should I be worried?
@@elderrusty541 I liked the idea the zombies the first 2 maps the characters. It was nice
@@octared7638 yes you should
I always have a fun time playing this map. I played MOB a lot too and on day 1 when it got released. The gameplay is lots of fun because you can do so much on this map in how you want to kill the zombies or where.
Innovating for the sake of innovating is basically BO4 Zombies summed up in one sentence
Please, don’t let nostalgia blind you.
I can assure you, it’s not just nostalgia. I don’t have nostalgia for mob of the dead, because I only purchased the dlc 4 days ago. I have played both, mob of the dead and blood of the dead and mob of the dead is much better
@@chocolatemilkshake7849 doesnt mean Blood is bad. They are different experiences there is not even a need to compare it and if you are going to compare it .. Sure Blood is worse but its still good. I play both frequently still.Also in what world is Blood PAP more complicated than MOB PAP lol.
He isn't blinded by nostalgia, Blood of the Dead is actual shit
@@ElectrikStatik900 like mob
Average Maximilianmus pfp
Which is better? Tim or Timothy?? Like=Tim. Reply=Timothy
Gerb The 1 Tim
Tujbged
Timster
I come home from Canada to one of Tim's videos?
aw hell yea
Honestly my biggest problem with blood is that it feels like be just wanted to jam it into the story so they could get hype. My favorite part of mod was that it was self contained. It was an endless loop of the prisoners in some kind of hell, Brutus was the guard turned zombie who was also trapped in the loop. But now when I go back to play it, I gotta think about how there’s a futuristic lab under the facility and stuff. Just ruins the vibe for me. Blood as a map tho isn’t bad.
Blood of the dead is OK
Please dont cry because its not MOB.
Please don't cry because someone has a different opinion
@@BlueBlur2003 if only it would be a good opinion and not a bad opinion like this you lil fanboy.
@@neylopiesto6927 not even being a fanboy. It's fine if you like the map but some of you guys in the comment section are being complete babies over Tim's take on the map 🤣
@@BlueBlur2003 i dont think you even watched the video. BOTD is a different experience and comparing it to MOTD for 4/5 of the video + trashing the map because of it + putting in wrong information is not a valid or good opinion = just straight up hating.
@@IAMKR1 fact
Its fine i don't care if you don't like it
True his whole argument the whole is "its not MOB". I agree PAP not knowing where it is is a issue , but still a great map.
9:14 "Why are we over complicating that?" So apparently having to get 5 parts to get to pack a punch EVERYTIME is way more easier than just killing a few zombies with the shield... ok Tim.
That was runing without killing zombies m8
That was runing without killing zombies m8
Aaand the second time you just had to get your self a nice runner and everithing is open