Having to do all four on my 2019 5.0 with code p0012. Been jumping rpm at idle and stopped. Your videos are a huge help for diagnostics and repairs. Thanks Rich!
That is a very good VCT system. The valve springs set the position. The actuator just traps oil to hold the position. There is no oil pressure used for timing.
Very very odd to see this happen on a Gen 2, I know the Gen 3’s have been documented as dropping the phasing to 0 at a stop or decel randomly but nothing in Gen 2. Always glad to see someone who knows what they’re doing documenting things like this.
Restore and protect our nation first. After I do that I will run 3,000 with that oil in 2016 GMC Acadia 4 times. Got 110,000 on her now and just did a tuneup. Wow just found out today about this stuff and was thinking about your past videos. Cool great life.
I had the exact same symptoms and after thinking it was a battery or solenoid or alternator….we discovered it was actually one of those ECU had some loose wire.After using break clean and taping it never happened again Same engine tho ‘16 5.0
Redline’s top of the line is NOT API approved. You can not or should not use oils with high ZDDP especially the phosphorus over 800 ppm in newer cars. SP rated oils is not what Redline is, it is good for high performance where API is not applicable
A bit easier to get that driver side valve cover off is by turning the oil dipstick guide counterclockwise and pulling it first, else risk breaking it. Have had same problem with my 2016, but only replaced the one “causing” the 22 code, now I think I should have replaced all four… That solenoid was sticky. Good video. 👍
The Oil Geek hinted that he may produce a video on engine flush products and the problems they could cause when contaminants make their way through the oiling system.
i use mobil 1 5w30 in my 16 f150 coyote , and its clean as can be , i go at max 5k on lof changes , my truck randomly does same thing with the stall / idle issue hasnt done it in awhile , so now i kow what to do to fix it , !!! thanks
VVT systems when designed correctly,can be reliable. I can give you an example of Toyota's VVT system. As long as you change oil with a quality brand and filter. Eg.Mobil,Eneos,Valvoline,Castrol,Pennzoil,Napa,even super tech,supers, and Kirkland signature brand would be good. No problems. No need for Amsoil,or any fancy brand. Not saying those oils are bad,it's just that in most cases a name brand oil is fine and often inexpensive.
@@ryanhuang8498 according to @motoroilgeek there's 3 base oil, 4 additive companies on the planet. Said don't listen to marketing it's all BS. Choose spec over brand.
@@ryanhuang8498 VVT adds failure points. Unlimited number of videos can be found of failed VVT engines. I don't see higher mileage vehicles claiming no issues with VVT. Actual stats required.
Is that a 10th mountain division tat on your wrist? If so really cool. Grandfather was part of it during Korea. I believe that was before the Ft Drum days.
@FordBossMe i got a tricky one i got a 2016 ford explorer 3.5 tivct so non turbo and its got codes p0300, p0316 it has a misfire on cold start only for like 10 seconds not very rough but sets check engine light it’s missing on the bank 2 cylinders i replaced the purge valve , spark plugs , coil boots , swapped coils , fuel pump , new injectors concern still present passes compression test, reset kam and the vct pids on cold start are reading correctly , not sure what to check if its mainly on bank 2 have you see something like that or recommend anything to check i had ford i.d.s
Can you do an update video in an oil change or two? I have the same issue with my 2015 5.0 w 154k. Been chasing this for 50k miles I have the random dies, once I replace the oil I won't have another until about 2k on the oil change. How do I get the pending codes? Maybe I am doing it wrong but never found a code and my Dealer tells me I am nuts. If you stays solid I am coming to you from GA to replace the VCT's. Thanks as always Jeff.
Was your issue constant? I have the same exact problems but mine comes and goes randomly. I can go days or even a week without any of the weird idling or dying. Almost dependent on the weather. Wasn’t sure if it was o2 sensors or this. Someone said I need timing chains but I don’t believe it.
@@FordBossMe Thank you. I think I am going to give this a shot. Others have said cam phasers need to be replaced, but that would be too much for me to do alone. I can't imagine it being a timing chain issue, but I am not a mechanic. I recently had a humming coming from my gas intake and a gas smell. Seemed like a vacuum issue. What a pain.
@@FordBossMe How long have you used 5W-30 in this engine? We have two 5.0 Ford engines in our family. A 2014 Mustang GT and a 2017 F150. We still use 5W-20 in both but I was thinking of switching to 5W-30. I didn't know if there would be any benefit to do so.
Question for you: my gen 2 coyote does the same thing but the engine is a new long block. Hasn’t done In a while but was pretty consistent turn off at idle at a stop light with no DTCS
Hey Rich, Any clue what inside the actuator failed ? Maybe another video exploding it apart to find the culprit ? Good video apart from autofocus not cooperating.
My 2019 does this, suspect oil pressure insufficient at idle or o ring seal at oil pan Pickup tube improper - does better with an extra 1/2 or so quart MMO over top peep hole
I had the exact same symptoms and after thinking it was a battery or solenoid or alternator….we discovered it was actually one of those ECU had some loose wire.After using break clean and taping it never happened again Same engine tho ‘16 5.0
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Did the problem wind up being the sensor(s) failure
I'm impressed by a conscientious mechanic that puts wiring and hoses back exactly as factory. All the clips and brackets just like no one was there.
Having to do all four on my 2019 5.0 with code p0012. Been jumping rpm at idle and stopped. Your videos are a huge help for diagnostics and repairs. Thanks Rich!
If anyone know how to fix ford vehicle 🚗 it’s this guy 👍🏻
Great job and great video 👍🏻
Probably should have cleaned the outside of the motor before taking the valve cover off.
That is a very good VCT system. The valve springs set the position. The actuator just traps oil to hold the position. There is no oil pressure used for timing.
Very very odd to see this happen on a Gen 2, I know the Gen 3’s have been documented as dropping the phasing to 0 at a stop or decel randomly but nothing in Gen 2. Always glad to see someone who knows what they’re doing documenting things like this.
Restore and protect our nation first. After I do that I will run 3,000 with that oil in 2016 GMC Acadia 4 times. Got 110,000 on her now and just did a tuneup. Wow just found out today about this stuff and was thinking about your past videos. Cool great life.
Are we moving forward? My 351 Cleveland has good power and half the moving parts. A little bit thirsty but not terrible if I keep my foot out of it.
Strokher to a 460!!
I had the exact same symptoms and after thinking it was a battery or solenoid or alternator….we discovered it was actually one of those ECU had some loose wire.After using break clean and taping it never happened again
Same engine tho ‘16 5.0
Will be interesting to see after a few oil changes.. if it is cleaner.
Redline’s top of the line is NOT API approved. You can not or should not use oils with high ZDDP especially the phosphorus over 800 ppm in newer cars. SP rated oils is not what Redline is, it is good for high performance where API is not applicable
A bit easier to get that driver side valve cover off is by turning the oil dipstick guide counterclockwise and pulling it first, else risk breaking it. Have had same problem with my 2016, but only replaced the one “causing” the 22 code, now I think I should have replaced all four… That solenoid was sticky. Good video. 👍
Hey Boss you work faster with one hand than I can with two hands !…… Thanks for all your hard work for us !
I have had years of practice so it's just learned
Thanks
The Oil Geek hinted that he may produce a video on engine flush products and the problems they could cause when contaminants make their way through the oiling system.
A 5.4 3v triton now looks easy for timing chain and lifter / follower replacement compare to what I just seen under that valve cover !
True
That’s why you’re the boss, Rich.
Thanks for the knowledge.
Looks nice and clean under those valve covers
i use mobil 1 5w30 in my 16 f150 coyote , and its clean as can be , i go at max 5k on lof changes , my truck randomly does same thing with the stall / idle issue hasnt done it in awhile , so now i kow what to do to fix it , !!! thanks
Is VVT worth the extra mile or two in fuel economy? I’d prefer not to have it and not pay for VVT repairs
Big facts
Problem is the EPA says otherwise!.they use them to meet emissions more than fuel economy
VVT systems when designed correctly,can be reliable. I can give you an example of Toyota's VVT system. As long as you change oil with a quality brand and filter. Eg.Mobil,Eneos,Valvoline,Castrol,Pennzoil,Napa,even super tech,supers, and Kirkland signature brand would be good. No problems. No need for Amsoil,or any fancy brand. Not saying those oils are bad,it's just that in most cases a name brand oil is fine and often inexpensive.
@@ryanhuang8498 according to @motoroilgeek there's 3 base oil, 4 additive companies on the planet. Said don't listen to marketing it's all BS. Choose spec over brand.
@@ryanhuang8498 VVT adds failure points. Unlimited number of videos can be found of failed VVT engines. I don't see higher mileage vehicles claiming no issues with VVT. Actual stats required.
Good intel, much appreciated.
Is that a 10th mountain division tat on your wrist? If so really cool. Grandfather was part of it during Korea. I believe that was before the Ft Drum days.
Yes indeed
I think I’ve only ever seen codes for the driver side exhaust solenoid on these trucks, not sure why that one specifically is so common
Nice and clean boss
@FordBossMe i got a tricky one i got a 2016 ford explorer 3.5 tivct so non turbo and its got codes p0300, p0316 it has a misfire on cold start only for like 10 seconds not very rough but sets check engine light it’s missing on the bank 2 cylinders i replaced the purge valve , spark plugs , coil boots , swapped coils , fuel pump , new injectors concern still present passes compression test, reset kam and the vct pids on cold start are reading correctly , not sure what to check if its mainly on bank 2 have you see something like that or recommend anything to check i had ford i.d.s
Can you do an update video in an oil change or two? I have the same issue with my 2015 5.0 w 154k. Been chasing this for 50k miles I have the random dies, once I replace the oil I won't have another until about 2k on the oil change. How do I get the pending codes? Maybe I am doing it wrong but never found a code and my Dealer tells me I am nuts. If you stays solid I am coming to you from GA to replace the VCT's. Thanks as always Jeff.
A small pocket scanner can pull pending codes
95% chance it’s the solenoids, usually does it with dirtier oil if you change the oil it stops until the oil gets dirty again
Cam timing sensor failure
Sensor no
Look at the simplicity of the V8 engine compared to the Ecoboost. Looks naked in there compared to my Ecoboost. Nice work, Boss! Good day!
I am guessing this is the 3.5 ti- vct naturally aspirated engine.
Cyclone or called Duratec.
@@wayneessar74895.0 Coyote.
Fuel pump relay fuse? I had a similar problem with your symptoms.
Did the vct solenoid failure happen towards the end of your 6,500 mile oil change interval?
Hey Boss having this same issue with my 15 expy with the 3.5 only it doesnt die out. Would this be the same fix or u think carbon buildup? Thx
YOU NEED TO BE IN MY AREA I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU WORK ON MY CAR😂😂😂😂seriously IT HAS A WIRING ISSUE AND I AM AFRAID THAT IT WILL CATCH FIRE😢😢😢😢
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Ford. Boss is that a plastic valve cover. Wow
6.2L uses the same part I believe.
Cool beans Rich 👍👍
I joke you not Boss. Let me know if you have time and I’ll drive up and you can do this on my truck 2016 5.0.
I'll do it
A🎉re there any screen filters inside the actuators or they run full oil pressure?
Hope the Valvoline Restore makes things a lot cleaner over time!! 🙏
I have a 2020 f150 with a P0022 are the vct different on the my 5.0?
I read contaminated oil can cause that, wild guess the Valveline cleaned to much crap ?
Prob not to much but idk
Great video what was the cost on 4 VVT sol
200.00 through ford but you can source online for 100.00
Did the dipstick tube break?
No
What would make you think that
@@FordBossMe When I have pulled the left valve cover on coyotes without removing the tube first it has broke off.
Told my brother who has 2021 Ford F150 with 3.6 v6 about oil filter FL820. Will that fit the V6?
He has a 3.3l or a 3.5l or a 3.7L
I think it's a 3.3 and if the filter he uses is a fl500 the 820 fits it
@@FordBossMe brother said his engine is 2.7. Geez Ford making engines smaller and smaller to meet CAFE standard
Was your issue constant? I have the same exact problems but mine comes and goes randomly. I can go days or even a week without any of the weird idling or dying. Almost dependent on the weather. Wasn’t sure if it was o2 sensors or this. Someone said I need timing chains but I don’t believe it.
Not constant, comes and goes
@@FordBossMe Thank you. I think I am going to give this a shot. Others have said cam phasers need to be replaced, but that would be too much for me to do alone. I can't imagine it being a timing chain issue, but I am not a mechanic. I recently had a humming coming from my gas intake and a gas smell. Seemed like a vacuum issue. What a pain.
How many miles will you run the Restore oil? 3000? 4000? 5000?
5000
What weight oil for your valvaline restore and protect? Looks good in there!
5w30
@@FordBossMe How long have you used 5W-30 in this engine? We have two 5.0 Ford engines in our family. A 2014 Mustang GT and a 2017 F150. We still use 5W-20 in both but I was thinking of switching to 5W-30. I didn't know if there would be any benefit to do so.
From the guy that preaches 3k to 5k oil changes 😂😂😂😂
almost 111111 miles. Nice
Question for you: my gen 2 coyote does the same thing but the engine is a new long block. Hasn’t done In a while but was pretty consistent turn off at idle at a stop light with no DTCS
Same thing probably
@@FordBossMe even on a new engine? That sucks
@@chevyhsnew engine but probably reused sensors
@@169abr new long block hopefully not refurbished. 😑
Hey Rich, Any clue what inside the actuator failed ?
Maybe another video exploding it apart to find the culprit ?
Good video apart from autofocus not cooperating.
Hey, Ford Boss. 🙂
My 2019 does this, suspect oil pressure insufficient at idle or o ring seal at oil pan
Pickup tube improper - does better with an extra 1/2 or so quart MMO over top peep hole
Doesn't look like Valvoline Restore & Protect did much in 6,500 miles unless oil changes have been neglected for a long time and poor oil was used.
I agree! Mobil 1 always leaves the valve train much cleaner. Almost new looking.
I had the exact same symptoms and after thinking it was a battery or solenoid or alternator….we discovered it was actually one of those ECU had some loose wire.After using break clean and taping it never happened again
Same engine tho ‘16 5.0