Laura, as someone who has also listened to these things for years- and has also used the public comment period, including the previous one- I too was strongly disappointed today. It, frankly, went off the rails; not only in the way critical issues were NOT covered…but in the time wasted- as you pointed out- in what time WAS spent on, that the chairwoman should have put an immediate halt to (just from a practicality’s standpoint). Today was NOT NAC HEO’s finest hour. - Dave Huntsman
Good example of both the oversights doing their job well and NASA pushing back against threats to their endless contracts for Boeing: In 2019, the Inspector General caught NASA giving Boeing an extra ~$300 million for their _"fixed price"_ SLS contract. He made sure it was the last time it ever happened, which seems to have been an unexpected circumstance judging by NASA's and Boeing's pi**y response. Boeing in particular seems to have been counting on being able to endlessly fudge their "fixed price" contract, and they're already on record promising they will never again accept one.
You are great! Keep doing what you do, I'm confident your voice will get louder as your base of viewers/listeners grows. I haven't given up on NASA yet, perhaps for nostalgic reasons (though I'm wavering). I hope the current "state" of the organization can be turned around and it's voices like yours that might help in that outcome.
You made me curious so I looked up the congressional oversight committee, I didn’t realise there were so many on the committee. Thirty eight give or take a few no wonder nothing gets done!
There seems to be plenty of very candid and independent auditing of NASA going on, that is how we know just how bad things are. The problem is not the auditing but that no consequences follow from the audits. The auditors are right, there is no point doing the audits if nothing changes as a result: the only outcome is to demoralize the rank and file at NASA leading to even worse performance! It seems to me that the problem is micromismanagement by politicians, and cynically it seems the politicians do not care at all about achieving anything in space and the actual mission of NASA is to funnel taxpayer's money through aerospace contractors into re-election funds. It is Congress that needs auditing, not NASA!
With more private companies entering the field, NASA needs to change and exert far greater control over it's finances, as well as encouraging these new companies. It should not just award the golden oldies like Boeing, mostly for what is mostly overpriced 70's technology. Thanks muchly for this update. Keep up the good work.
I am really enjoying your videos. I like your approach. I’ve subscribed. I do wish you had said “fewer Audits” instead of the grammatically incorrect “less audits”. It makes many of us cringe. But, you’ve earned the right to peak on your topics. I thank you.
it could be possible with a modded crewed falcon heavy with orion capsule + starship + falcon heavy rendevous space tug booster. youd need the orion capsule as its coming in a lot faster on the earth return than the dragon ever does from LEO. you could easily do it in 5 years - but that would require total commitment from nasa today and some billions of pocket money. still cheaper than SLS though.
You'll recognize the reference. The important part isn't what you think... it's actually the last paragraph: ""But he hasn't got anything on," a little child said. "Did you ever hear such innocent prattle?" said its father. And one person whispered to another what the child had said, "He hasn't anything on. A child says he hasn't anything on." "But he hasn't got anything on!" the whole town cried out at last. The Emperor shivered, for he suspected they were right. But he thought, "This procession has got to go on." So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn't there at all.
Do these meetings convey any sense that NASA is aware they are in competition with China and perhaps Russia in returning humans to the Moon and reaching Mars in a sustainable manner? They sound like meetings for the sake of meetings, with all the urgency being picked up by companies like SpaceX.
NASA is well and truly accountable and unfortunately that's to Congress. To the extent it wastes a lot of time and money I would suggest that is significantly attributable to having to please the whimsies of Congress
My issues are why NASA offered Boeing and SpaceX are the only ones that have commercial crew capsules to multiple space stations are iss and not give or offer smaller aerospace private companies like firefly or stoke space a fraction of money to build a commercial crew capsule too. In a most recent press meeting regarding starliners issues I heard specifically Bill neelson state that if we can't resolve these issues we will have to go with other alternatives.. well why didn't he offer commercial aerospace companies a chance.. I mean if this was supposed to be a joint collaboration with other agencies why are these other aerospace companies not included.. that is what I would ask in that meeting u were apart of
He also said that he was 100% confident that Starliner will carry crew to the ISS on the next flight. How many chances does Boeing get? How many chances would SpaceX have gotten? Or Sierra Space? Or Stoke Space? Let's also keep in mind that Becktel was awarded a $2.7 BILLION cost-plus contract to replace the brand-new Artemis launch tower with one that's a whole 6 feet taller.
If they chop programme but an SLS is good to go which planet would you say go visit with a probe? As ridiculously priced as they are might as well not waste it.
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Laura, as someone who has also listened to these things for years- and has also used the public comment period, including the previous one- I too was strongly disappointed today. It, frankly, went off the rails; not only in the way critical issues were NOT covered…but in the time wasted- as you pointed out- in what time WAS spent on, that the chairwoman should have put an immediate halt to (just from a practicality’s standpoint). Today was NOT NAC HEO’s finest hour. - Dave Huntsman
There's another independent source of NASA audit...
You Laura!
Thanks for informing us on this.
Thanks Ross!
Ultimately BLOWING all this money is HURTING America's long-term Space program.
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Exactly.
Bill Nelson is a problem.
His praise for Boeing management on Starliner revealed how true that is.
@@douginorlando6260 How true. :)
Sounds like that sub-plot in Monty Python's Life of Brian, with innumerable committees bickering with each other and getting nothing done.
That's what a lot of committees do. They ensure that everyone shares in the glory, but nobody gets blamed for the failures.
Motivational Posters at NASA
“None of us is as dumb as all of us”
“None of us is as slow as all of us”
Maybe aliens will swing by in their spaceship and by a miracle catch astronaut Brian as he falls off the 3 billion dollar Bectel launch tower.
Good example of both the oversights doing their job well and NASA pushing back against threats to their endless contracts for Boeing: In 2019, the Inspector General caught NASA giving Boeing an extra ~$300 million for their _"fixed price"_ SLS contract. He made sure it was the last time it ever happened, which seems to have been an unexpected circumstance judging by NASA's and Boeing's pi**y response. Boeing in particular seems to have been counting on being able to endlessly fudge their "fixed price" contract, and they're already on record promising they will never again accept one.
You are great! Keep doing what you do, I'm confident your voice will get louder as your base of viewers/listeners grows. I haven't given up on NASA yet, perhaps for nostalgic reasons (though I'm wavering). I hope the current "state" of the organization can be turned around and it's voices like yours that might help in that outcome.
@@progkarma944 Thank you! And don’t forget your voice as well.
As if any public comments would have any impact whatsoever. They’re the experts; we’re the peasants.
You made me curious so I looked up the congressional oversight committee, I didn’t realise there were so many on the committee. Thirty eight give or take a few no wonder nothing gets done!
There seems to be plenty of very candid and independent auditing of NASA going on, that is how we know just how bad things are. The problem is not the auditing but that no consequences follow from the audits. The auditors are right, there is no point doing the audits if nothing changes as a result: the only outcome is to demoralize the rank and file at NASA leading to even worse performance! It seems to me that the problem is micromismanagement by politicians, and cynically it seems the politicians do not care at all about achieving anything in space and the actual mission of NASA is to funnel taxpayer's money through aerospace contractors into re-election funds. It is Congress that needs auditing, not NASA!
With more private companies entering the field, NASA needs to change and exert far greater control over it's finances, as well as encouraging these new companies. It should not just award the golden oldies like Boeing, mostly for what is mostly overpriced 70's technology.
Thanks muchly for this update. Keep up the good work.
Preach sister 👍👍
Great video, Laura...👍
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Thank you, as always!
I am really enjoying your videos. I like your approach. I’ve subscribed. I do wish you had said “fewer Audits” instead of the grammatically incorrect “less audits”. It makes many of us cringe. But, you’ve earned the right to peak on your topics. I thank you.
Thanks, and welcome! Yes, you are correct, "fewer audits" would have been the correct wording.
I want to go back to the moon. SLS is just too expensive.
it could be possible with a modded crewed falcon heavy with orion capsule + starship + falcon heavy rendevous space tug booster. youd need the orion capsule as its coming in a lot faster on the earth return than the dragon ever does from LEO. you could easily do it in 5 years - but that would require total commitment from nasa today and some billions of pocket money. still cheaper than SLS though.
Is a SLS one shot, still more expensive than a dozen starship refueling missions? I don't think.I have seen that number.
Great post!
Thank you!
You'll recognize the reference. The important part isn't what you think... it's actually the last paragraph:
""But he hasn't got anything on," a little child said.
"Did you ever hear such innocent prattle?" said its father. And one person whispered to another what the child had said, "He hasn't anything on. A child says he hasn't anything on."
"But he hasn't got anything on!" the whole town cried out at last.
The Emperor shivered, for he suspected they were right. But he thought, "This procession has got to go on." So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn't there at all.
Very informative, thank you Laura.
Thank you!
Thank you Laura. Hope NASA guys subscribed to your channel.
Thanks!
We need mass produced probes to explore space and no more custom one off missions
I been saying for a long time ALL government agencies need civilian oversight, like Judicial Watch.
I wonder what SpaceX does for internal audits…
Do these meetings convey any sense that NASA is aware they are in competition with China and perhaps Russia in returning humans to the Moon and reaching Mars in a sustainable manner? They sound like meetings for the sake of meetings, with all the urgency being picked up by companies like SpaceX.
indeed
NASA is well and truly accountable and unfortunately that's to Congress. To the extent it wastes a lot of time and money I would suggest that is significantly attributable to having to please the whimsies of Congress
NASA oversight is a joke. Artemis is an incredible waste of money along with Starliner.
My issues are why NASA offered Boeing and SpaceX are the only ones that have commercial crew capsules to multiple space stations are iss and not give or offer smaller aerospace private companies like firefly or stoke space a fraction of money to build a commercial crew capsule too. In a most recent press meeting regarding starliners issues I heard specifically Bill neelson state that if we can't resolve these issues we will have to go with other alternatives.. well why didn't he offer commercial aerospace companies a chance.. I mean if this was supposed to be a joint collaboration with other agencies why are these other aerospace companies not included.. that is what I would ask in that meeting u were apart of
He also said that he was 100% confident that Starliner will carry crew to the ISS on the next flight. How many chances does Boeing get? How many chances would SpaceX have gotten? Or Sierra Space? Or Stoke Space?
Let's also keep in mind that Becktel was awarded a $2.7 BILLION cost-plus contract to replace the brand-new Artemis launch tower with one that's a whole 6 feet taller.
They did. It was a wide-open competition. - Dave Huntsman
They don't want to give a possible Trump administration ammo to cut SLS. I hope they do.
Especially if Musk is involved as an advisor to Trump. Hahaha.
A moron taking advice from another moron, talk about the blind leading the blind.
They don't want to give a possible Trump administration ammo to cut SLS. I hope they do.
If they chop programme but an SLS is good to go which planet would you say go visit with a probe? As ridiculously priced as they are might as well not waste it.