The fact that Anna and Kamila are there while Trusova is not is ridiculous. Can’t wait to see Sasha’s GOE’s in next season cause she is back with Eteri.
This is just a joke. She have the better technique and is the Quad Queen too. She brings the quads in the Female FS. And she is not in this video. The only Girl with Anna which jumps quad triple combines and Anna is not doing it anymore. We will see if Anna can hold the quads next season. But I guess without 3A will be already hard. Sasha and Kami will do it.
There is a reason why Eteri opens the door for Sahsa again!!! She get a couple of promises. Because when Sahsa brings a clean Short and FS she is unbeatable because she is unstoppable :)
@@matthiasmueller346 Sasha only needs consistency. This season she changed her jumps plan in every competition. I am sure that’s the main thing Eteri will work on with Sasha. And also, I don’t want to seem like a hater of Anna and Kamila, I am just being very honest. Sasha never gets higher pcs than Kami and Anna and yeah there is a reason. But also, they are far away from Sasha’s jumping technique and jumping ability, so they should not get higher scores than Sasha. We should be fair till the end.
I guess the rumours about the change back to Eteri are right. Sahsa will go 2022 to Olympia. Its better to give her a place and win with her than loose against Sasha trained by Rafael Arutyunyan. Sasha have so many fans and support in Asia. Would be stupid to not send her. Also for the Russian FS!!
@@lannguyende It really depends on the judging panel, That one judge with the 3 probably had a stricter requirement for ease throughout and was a stickler for good landings. Yuzuru had a bit of struggle between the two jumps which wasn't too noticeable and a pretty flow-less landing. I wouldn't sweat it too much
@@ppnexus2000 i get it, i shouldn't complain the judge, 3 is very good to be fair. I think that nowadays' judges are still a bit harsh on him compare to most skaters, just a little bit, like Yuzu doesn't usually have a good landing in the first half of the combination, or sometimes he has a diffrent technique to init his second jump, and the judges always take it seriously and decrease 1 or 2 points (compare to other skaters i think). I know it's not a big deal to talk about it, but we all know he's a textbook jumper, at least they should appreciate but a bit harsh on him like that.
@@lannguyende I feel like the judges are starting to be more harsh towards the older skaters (Yuzu, Nate, Shoma etc) and be more lenient towards a newer generation of skaters like Yuma, Shun and maybe even Vincent. Nathan and Yuzu are both pretty ripped off imo considering they're both textbook jumpers and usually land good. Shoma isn't textbook but compared to some other skaters who receive higher scores he's decent.
Timestamps that will make your day: Yuma’s 4 Salchow: 0:42 (The flow and the soft knee gosh😭) Boyang’s 4 Lutz: 0:54 (That height and flow HOLY FUXKING SH-) Yuzuru’s 4 Salchow: 3:00 (Look, you don’t need an explanation) Thank me later😌
Are you kidding me? Where is Alexandra Trusova? Plus, the GOE assigned at Russian Nationals (talking about ladies now) is always at least 2-2,5 higher than in international competitions. I don't know if that applies to the Nationals held in other countries. P.S. For the record, I'm not trying to devalue what these wonderful ladies are creating on ice. Just stating a fact.
@@anniemmy goes are more than just landing, she is the is the only girl with actual technique in quads, it’s a joke. and if you wanna talk about landing, then kamila shouldn’t be given such goes either in her combinations, cause we all know there’s a problem in the landing from her combinations, she deserves artistic recognition because she’s a beautiful skater, but she doesn’t deserve to have 4+ goes or be on top of sasha when it comes to technique, this is more than landings
Да заебали уже со своей трусовой! Вот когда она начнёт чисто свои квады делать и вставлять из программу и выполнять на 100%,тогда она и попадёт сюда,а то,что она там на тренировках делает это не важно,ибо применить на соревнованиях это она не в состоянии!
Yuzu's Let Me Entertain You is a total cultural reset....his speed, transition and jump. All top notch!! 🔥🔥🔥 AND he made it look so easy...Everybody says thank you Yuzu!!
She's not even a figure skater, she's just a jumper (who hasn't been able to land all her jumps for two seasons, btw). Would be a disgrace if she was the national champion. She can't skate and can't express anything.
@@signe-o3f Sasha has been working really hard for the last season (including artistry) and her quads are by far the best technically in the ladies field so it's a shame that she's not here... she's a legendary figure skater
@@elle_april02 She still should be behind most seniors in PCS, even behind some novices like Akatieva, who jumps 3a and quads but still remembers that she has a program to show, not just her jumps. Look at Trusova fs at the Worlds. She doesn't even try.
I agree with the pcs but I just don't think that counting her out as a figure skater is acceptable... she's working and has improved her presentation skills throughout the season and her hardwork should make her a deserving national champion (with better jumping technique than all contenders of the national championship) she isn't scored fairly and I think instead of Anna or Kamila she should be on this video
What makes you say Japan doesn't inflate their scores like the US and Russia, if you don't mind me asking? I've seen that comment a few times but I've never really seen specific reasonings and examples to support that claim so I'm just curious. From what I've seen of nationals _in general,_ skaters tend to score more.
@@divinearia1601 eh, never said JNats don’t overscore their own skaters. just that compared to the US and Russia, there’s a biiiiig gap between them. you can take a look into the judging system and learn how flawed nationals usually are in those 2 countries. the Russian ladies especially can easily get a 90+ with technically poor jumps in the short program, and over 180+ points in the long. Chen’s SP in this year’s USNats was about 114 points alone, a feat that shouldn’t be possible or reasonable for a skater with his current ability.
@@kiyoomisakusa8214...oh, so you're making that statement based on how you personally feel about the Russian ladies and on the feeling that Chen _shouldn't_ be good enough to score 114 pts on his SP skate. Well, Nathan has scored almost 111 pts at an international competition before on a short program in Italy...just 2-3 pts less than what he got at nationals...so, yes, while Nationals indeed are generally a little more inflated, I don't see this "biiiig gap" you're referring to. I'd be interested in knowing what the Japanese skaters scored at their Nationals.
@@divinearia1601 if you’re so “interested”, then why don’t you look into it yourself? it appears the only reason you replied with and asked me that question in the first place was because you wanted to argue with a person on the internet who actually knows how the judging system works. i’d enlighten you with the details of their scoring, but i’m actually on holiday rn and unfortunately you’re not the only person who’s been bold enough to go against the word of someone who knows more than you do about the sport. if you happen to find my comments anywhere, either on this channel or on other channels (if you do a little digging and regularly catch up with ISU events i’m sure that wouldn’t be difficult, but seeing as you’re attempting to stupidly pick a fight with someone who knows better tells me otherwise, cause if you had done so then you would’ve been well informed by now on why my thoughts are how they are lmao), maybe then you’ll catch a glimpse of what i’m saying. if that’s too much homework for you (god forbid the person i’m trying to push into a corner here give me any tips on how to delve deeper into the sport because i want answers _here and now_ without effort, even though as someone who’s going out of their way to state there is no basis for this educated person’s claims, it’s slightly contradicting to be just that- someone with no basis to their words), the person(s) running this channel liked my comment. before you go on again about how tHaT iS nO BaSiS tO mY ArGumEnT, they never usually like comments that are misinformed or controversial with its opinions/perspectives. they always like educated comments about the scoring of certain skaters, about the comparison between A’s and B’s jump, and have made several replies in response to these topics. you can check their other videos to confirm. that in itself should already prove my point, and my point stands (and is pretty much concretely factual by now) that the inflation in USNats and Rusnats is miles more drastic than it is in JNats. check skatingscores.com and look for scoring sheets to your desire (i sound like an ads person lol) and take a look at the GOE’s, the PCS grades and the spin or StSq levels given. that should be easy to start with.
@@divinearia1601 also, be careful with who you outwardly claim 2-3 points is not considered a “big gap” to, because that statement in itself is usually already a testament to someone’s knowledge on the sport. “just” 2-3 points is false. that margin is quite large for a single program with less or, at most, equal quality to his GPF 2019 SP. for the overall accumulated results it might not be as big of a deal, but anything above 112 for Chen in the short is.
3:01 one of, if not the only, jump in this that deserved a 5. Holy shit that was the cleanest Quad Sal ever. (I understand Anna's jumps aren't very good technically, because of full blade assistance and excessive pre-rotation, but they look so seamless when they aren't slowed down. I mean you can still see full blade assistance when it's not slowed down, if that's what you're looking for, but still... The landing on her 4F was beautiful and I'm sure looks perfect to the average viewer.)
All beautiful, but number 6 was not a quad flip, more like a floop because if you watch the video at 0.25 you will notice she uses a full blade as support, meaning that the jump is not a flip.
So sad that Quad Queen Sasha didn't make the list. Her GOEs at Nationals were too LOW for my liking. 🇷🇺⛸4️⃣👑 #SashaDeservedBetter At least Yuzu's jumps got the GOEs they deserved! 💖🇯🇵⛸🐐 #YuzuGOAT -Best 4F: Nathan -Best 4Lz: Boyang -Best 4T: Yuzu -Best 4S: Yuzu
@@Helen-me1vn and what next? everyone can see perfectly well that Anya jumps lutz off the wrong edge, and they put space goes for her. Sasha does it perfectly, but as you can see, the judge decided differently. And there are a thousand such examples
YES. His quads are effortless and his technique is indeed flawless, so clean. I love his 4Fs as well as his 4Lz. His 4S is beautiful too. His jumps are super unique because he does them with a quick, clean snap and the rotations are so tight and fast in the air. I mean, look at how quick that toe-pick assist was on that no.4 Flip. It looked so light(like he barely tapped the ice), seamless, and effortless.
Anna's Flip has a really bad technique, like her other jumps! The fact that she's on the list... ISU!!! P.S. I like her and her artistry, but I can't deny the fact that her technique is not that good, comparing to Trusova for example Also Kamila has an insane prerotation on her 2T of the combo!
Dear, prerotation is unlimited in current CoP, want you or not. Stop learning rules from trash idiots like koola and their fake "analyzing" videos and download ISU handbook.
He had an open flip during the landing of the quad toe. 3 is acceptable but the 4s and 5s are reasonable too. It's just how different judges see things.
I believe everything happens for a reason, if he also got undeserved +5.03 +5.19 +5.59 +5.75 GOE, 130+ TES, and most hilarious 98.50 PCS for empty jumps and crossovers, instead of 0 +1 for perfect jumps/spins/stsq/chsq... he would never become the Greatest figure skater of the Century, he would be gone & forgotten long time ago... Time has put everything in it's place.
@@benbailey159bb that's inexact. He will land it one day and I hope I will be there to see it. I was at GPF19 and it was already very impressive. This year he just made a complicated entry as well as though this jump was not hard enough.
Trusova's quad lutz isn't there while Anna's inside edge, full blade triple flutz is? I don't dislike Anna, in fact I think she's a wonderfully talented and sweet girl, but you have to be joking that Sasha with her actual quad lutz is not there. She's not technically perfect either, but I don't understand how Kamila and Anna are there where Sasha is not. Also GOE is quite biased and a high GOE doesn't mean that the jump was good, it just means that you're probably a Tutberidze-taught, female Russian skater.
OMG mister hater. Her flip is in list not her lutz. She has flip correctly and her Lutz isn't flutz. Because she has flat edge not inside 😔😔😔 I will buy glasses for gou
Faltaron los cuádruples de Sasha trusova quien tiene récords por ellos,.no se porque no la.quieren,ella es arriesgada,disciplinada.,una excelente atleta que puso a saltar cuádruples a las mujeres..en.fin,todos.excelentes pero faltó.sin duda
It's because Sasha wasn't training with Eteri at this time, so unlike Kamila and Anna, she wasn't getting the 'Eteri bonus'. Sasha wasn't in this video because her quads are bad, but because the other two girls' quads are overscored.
@@benbailey159bb Obviously, someone knows nothing about figure skating, since Kamila LITERALLY the most artistic and component skater! I would really say who has mediocre skating skills is Kaori Sakamoto. I don't understand the hype around her. untalented cow on ice 😂😂
It definitely was my first idea! But came to mind there are only 2 major international competitions throughout this season to compare with, the rest are 'invitational events' like the Grand Prix series. So I ended up gathering both domestic and international comps in this video.
@@lisal-tg2zk...truths. It's amusing how every time they feel generous enough to give him a compliment, it's the back-handed kind. They're totally fine with Nathan being good, but they still want to make sure the world knows that he's not _that_ good, lol.
It was going by percentage not overall points. Nathan's had higher GOE because the BV was 15ish. His percentage was around 90 something but this video isn't supposed to be top 10, it's just a list of high goe jumps.
@@youngtrap3256 включите скорость на 0,25. Если вы умеете считать до четырёх, то вы явно не досчитаете одного оборота) да там не только недокрут вылезает, но и отталкивание всем лезвием, а не зубцом. Просто стыд, а не техника. Самое смешное, что судьи "ничего не видят"
i hate that, in this video there are among these beautiful quads some ugly ass quads (by technique) for example nr 6, like Anna isnt a bad skater, but when it comes to quads just pls no, like dont do it, its so sad to watch them get so much score for a jump that aint even a quad like seriously. Im talking about these russian women (there are other skaters from other countries too, but mostly its always russian skaters) like grls got FULL BLADE ASSISTANCE, 3/4 PREROTATION, AND '' q '' , omfg cant even talk about isu corruption, and like bribing judges. and no im not blaming the skaters, theyre just told to do it like this, to get a better score, yeah i agree its easier to win, but frl isu aint doing nothing against it too, like if they had a rule about smth like '' IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN NO - OR MINIMAL PREROTATION THEN YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET minus points ''depending how bad it is, bet eteri would fix her skaters prerotation the second isu uploads the rule. Like it aint even a sport anymore. #CANCELPREROTATIONANDFULLBLADEASSISTANCEANDWRONGORBADEDGE
Actually great jumps in this video: Yuzuru, Mikhail, Yuma. Kami has great solo 4T but that combo was poor. Boyang's height on his 4Lz is out of this world and had great flow but he telegraphs it too much. Nathan's jumps are technically great as far as take offs go, but his landings aren't pretty and does too much 2-foot skating. Anna's jump - no comment - that's just a really bad take off.
Nathan's landings aren't pretty...lol. Well, at least he lands his jumps, unlike a certain supposedly _perfect_ someone else who's actually less consistent. I mean, those landings aren't very pretty either when he misses. And speaking of not being pretty...yeah, Yuzuru's floppy posture and dangly arms...not pretty at all either. Of course, great transitions though ^^
Divine Aria i agree. i honestly can’t figure out why people say his landings aren’t pretty after watching him for 3+ years because they usually look fine to me. (the exception would be at 2021 us nationals). it also is hard to watch yuzuru when he’s tired (no offense intended toward him, of course) because he’s, well, _tired_ , and it shows.
@@Mintcloud421...it's because they have nothing else to whine about. He jumps textbook jumps, his rotations are super fast and exciting, and he(more than anyone else) actually lands his jumps. The best they can do is cry about how, in their eyes, his landing doesn't look pretty enough.
@@Mintcloud421 it because of these things: 1. He lands on a stiff knee and not great knee bend. 2. His upper body leans forwards instead of staying vertical. This really helps you to keep your balance but it’s not an example of a good posture. 3. The way he brings his free leg out. It’s not very controlled and kinda sideways and kinda like a kick. 4. Most of the time very poor flow. 5. His shoulders are kinda up or hunched
@@divinearia1601 “at leats he lands his jumps” -> thats why we separate base values and goes. He prioritises staying on his feet so he shouldnt be rewarded for more than he actually does. And i didnlt say Yuzuru’s errors are beautiful. I said that the jumps he did in this video were beautiful - and those were squeaky clean. Rest of your comment is off topic, kinda like you dont have enough arguments on this particular topic.
GOE's at Rostelecom and /or Russian Nationals by Russian figure skaters is like execution score in National Olympic Trials for Gymnastic Hella overscored
Kamila’s 4T here is actually ONE of her good 4Ts cuz it finally landed on a flat to outside edge,and having 180 degree prerotation in toe loop is acceptable.Anyway I still hope she can train herself to land jumps more safely and stable.
@@mbaxromov40 we both know that if it were the men's division that would be a negative GOE. Theres no point in pushing the ladies to do more when it's done incorrectly.
@@archiouseemerald2268 yes, but how does my comment conflict with that? Like some other commenters noted, domestic competitions tend to give out higher GOEs. So it may be insanely high. But that’s just that.
most of the times mr. Yuzuru lands almost on his nose, his left leg all around circumnavigating the other one, his right knee always few centimeters from the ice in landings. technique is another thing, (kolyada, Chen, Boitano, Fadeev, etc.). I guess Orser knows some of these gentlemen
Which ones? It's hard for me to tell how some of his are a take off from a "flat edge" while others are not. Do you have examples of the differences in his jumps?
There was not and there is no better quad Fip than Nathan's quad Flip. No wonder Nathan has the best ever 4F in figure skating history. Same with 4 Lutz ...
@@divinearia1601 check the post of his flip takeoff here. For me the 2nd and 3rd are from inside edge. First one is unclear and the last one is outside. twitter.com/intelligentYuzu/status/1321993310429306880?s=19
@@noran7809 his Lutz is no doubt textbook. And I'd say his quad flip is the best among all skaters as no one has both consistent clear inside takeoff edge and clean toepick. But there are skaters like Carolina Kostnor who can do both for triple flip.
@@SummerYu0625...sorry, but I have no idea how you can tell inside edge vs outside edge from those stills. They're really not that different from each other at all, from what I can tell. I think BOTH Nathan and Yuzuru have been criticized for having "unclear edges" before: ruclips.net/video/JhI7SO-ONn8/видео.html According to an older simulation of a flip jump, it was textbook to use a relatively straight edge. So, why did the ISU suddenly ask that an inside edge be used? Anyway, I feel like Yuzuru fans are just trying to find fault and flaws in Nathan's skating...even saying that his scores need to be punished. I'm curious in what your opinion on Yuzuru's flip is. Is the edge on his flip perfect, in your eyes? If Nathan's is not inside enough then neither is Yuzuru's. And, honestly, if Nathan's flip is still one of the very best among all skaters, why take the time to criticize only him?
When I see that the phenomenal 4salchow by Chen did not receive the highest GOE on WTT and WC, but the two-legged 4S freak performed by Hanyu - they received them twice - I want to close figure skating.
When I see Hanyu is officially recognized the Greatest Figure Skater of the Century, 6th Greatest Athlete in 100 years of sports history, Top 10 Greatest Olympian of the Century, placed in so many GOATs & Legends lists... I feel so proud to be his fan. Greatest Figure Skater of the Century, and the best part is, GOAT of the Century is still active and continuing making history... 👍
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The fact that Anna and Kamila are there while Trusova is not is ridiculous. Can’t wait to see Sasha’s GOE’s in next season cause she is back with Eteri.
This is just a joke. She have the better technique and is the Quad Queen too. She brings the quads in the Female FS. And she is not in this video. The only Girl with Anna which jumps quad triple combines and Anna is not doing it anymore. We will see if Anna can hold the quads next season. But I guess without 3A will be already hard. Sasha and Kami will do it.
There is a reason why Eteri opens the door for Sahsa again!!! She get a couple of promises. Because when Sahsa brings a clean Short and FS she is unbeatable because she is unstoppable :)
@@matthiasmueller346 Sasha only needs consistency. This season she changed her jumps plan in every competition. I am sure that’s the main thing Eteri will work on with Sasha. And also, I don’t want to seem like a hater of Anna and Kamila, I am just being very honest. Sasha never gets higher pcs than Kami and Anna and yeah there is a reason. But also, they are far away from Sasha’s jumping technique and jumping ability, so they should not get higher scores than Sasha. We should be fair till the end.
I guess the rumours about the change back to Eteri are right. Sahsa will go 2022 to Olympia. Its better to give her a place and win with her than loose against Sasha trained by Rafael Arutyunyan.
Sasha have so many fans and support in Asia. Would be stupid to not send her. Also for the Russian FS!!
Just one quad more and she had won the WC from P12 after the Short !!!
Yuzuru is soooooo talented. Perfect technique and beautiful landing. I love him so much and wishing him all the best for his upcoming competition.
Still can't believe Yuzuru's 4S and 4T + 3T at WTT didn't get full GOE, especially on the 4S...that jump and the combo were beyond perfection
It got 4 5's and 3 4's, he had a bit of tilt in the air so that's a good score.
@@ppnexus2000 i agree, but seriously Yuzu's 4T-3T combination is lower than Kolyada's? The 3 there is ridiculous tho!
@@lannguyende It really depends on the judging panel, That one judge with the 3 probably had a stricter requirement for ease throughout and was a stickler for good landings. Yuzuru had a bit of struggle between the two jumps which wasn't too noticeable and a pretty flow-less landing. I wouldn't sweat it too much
@@ppnexus2000 i get it, i shouldn't complain the judge, 3 is very good to be fair. I think that nowadays' judges are still a bit harsh on him compare to most skaters, just a little bit, like Yuzu doesn't usually have a good landing in the first half of the combination, or sometimes he has a diffrent technique to init his second jump, and the judges always take it seriously and decrease 1 or 2 points (compare to other skaters i think). I know it's not a big deal to talk about it, but we all know he's a textbook jumper, at least they should appreciate but a bit harsh on him like that.
@@lannguyende I feel like the judges are starting to be more harsh towards the older skaters (Yuzu, Nate, Shoma etc) and be more lenient towards a newer generation of skaters like Yuma, Shun and maybe even Vincent. Nathan and Yuzu are both pretty ripped off imo considering they're both textbook jumpers and usually land good. Shoma isn't textbook but compared to some other skaters who receive higher scores he's decent.
Yuzuru's Sal is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in this sport.
Timestamps that will make your day:
Yuma’s 4 Salchow: 0:42
(The flow and the soft knee gosh😭)
Boyang’s 4 Lutz: 0:54
(That height and flow HOLY FUXKING SH-)
Yuzuru’s 4 Salchow: 3:00
(Look, you don’t need an explanation)
Thank me later😌
Boyang has one of my favourite 4Lz! That height OMG! 😯
Boyang’s 4lz was breathtakingly beautiful. I hope he can bring it back consistently in Beijing
the fact that boyang’s lutz wasn’t a +5 across the board when it’s easily the most chef’s kiss technique 4Lz currently puzzles my brain 🥴😂
Thank you ❤
@@bb__v2452 And he did!!! I love his quad lutz in Beijing
So sad our Quad Queen is not there ☹️
But our GOAT is there and perfect as always✨
Who is goat?
@@cnhfectyjr5769 Yuzuru Hanyu✨
@@injinasirova ah, I see, thank you~
Yeah, sad that Sasha's quads got low GOEs. 🙁 #QuadQueenDeservedBetter
@@cnhfectyjr5769 Ahahha if lilylily said anyone except Hanyu, I have a feeling that you were getting ready to attack 🤣🤣🤣 (I ama big Hanyu fan too)
yuzuru's jumping technique is basically perfect 😌
Happy to see Yuzu a lot of times in this list!✨💛
Are you kidding me? Where is Alexandra Trusova?
Plus, the GOE assigned at Russian Nationals (talking about ladies now) is always at least 2-2,5 higher than in international competitions. I don't know if that applies to the Nationals held in other countries. P.S. For the record, I'm not trying to devalue what these wonderful ladies are creating on ice. Just stating a fact.
Sasha was with Plushenko, so she didn't get the 'Eteri bonus'. 😑
No sasha didnt get +5 goes because her landing is rough
@@anniemmy goes are more than just landing, she is the is the only girl with actual technique in quads, it’s a joke. and if you wanna talk about landing, then kamila shouldn’t be given such goes either in her combinations, cause we all know there’s a problem in the landing from her combinations, she deserves artistic recognition because she’s a beautiful skater, but she doesn’t deserve to have 4+ goes or be on top of sasha when it comes to technique, this is more than landings
Да заебали уже со своей трусовой! Вот когда она начнёт чисто свои квады делать и вставлять из программу и выполнять на 100%,тогда она и попадёт сюда,а то,что она там на тренировках делает это не важно,ибо применить на соревнованиях это она не в состоянии!
@@ashleyvita5092 уважаю ваше мнение.
2:49 Yuzu's "shake-o-booty" deserves full GOE imo 😆
GOE’s at domestic competitions are pretty inflated hehehe
This is true. Always has been. 🙂
Except Japanese Nationals where they are always stingy to Hanyu
@@senemgencer71 At this year's JNats, Yuzu's sit spin was invalidated because of his sit twizzle by the tech panel saying it was an attempted spin.
@@amandadean5470 which program is it? short or free?
@@patience9512 in the short programme
Yuzuru and his quads are the most beautiful things ever!!
Yuzu in a world beyond 🌟PERFECTION🌟
Yuzu's Let Me Entertain You is a total cultural reset....his speed, transition and jump. All top notch!! 🔥🔥🔥 AND he made it look so easy...Everybody says thank you Yuzu!!
i am honestly offended the quad queen, sasha trusova, MY national champion, is not here
She's not even a figure skater, she's just a jumper (who hasn't been able to land all her jumps for two seasons, btw). Would be a disgrace if she was the national champion. She can't skate and can't express anything.
@@signe-o3f Sasha has been working really hard for the last season (including artistry) and her quads are by far the best technically in the ladies field so it's a shame that she's not here... she's a legendary figure skater
@@elle_april02 She still should be behind most seniors in PCS, even behind some novices like Akatieva, who jumps 3a and quads but still remembers that she has a program to show, not just her jumps. Look at Trusova fs at the Worlds. She doesn't even try.
I agree with the pcs but I just don't think that counting her out as a figure skater is acceptable... she's working and has improved her presentation skills throughout the season and her hardwork should make her a deserving national champion (with better jumping technique than all contenders of the national championship) she isn't scored fairly and I think instead of Anna or Kamila she should be on this video
@@elle_april02 what's the use in her technique if she can't skate one clean fs? "The Queen of quads" should at least land them if she can't skate.
Everyone must be questioning some of these I bet...
tbh i was too while editing the video 🤭
@@SkateInsider I know right...😂(Thx for this interesting video!)
All that footwork going into his quads...
the difference in the inflation in scoring when it comes to the US and Russia is almost comical when compared to Japan lmao.
What makes you say Japan doesn't inflate their scores like the US and Russia, if you don't mind me asking? I've seen that comment a few times but I've never really seen specific reasonings and examples to support that claim so I'm just curious. From what I've seen of nationals _in general,_ skaters tend to score more.
@@divinearia1601
eh, never said JNats don’t overscore their own skaters. just that compared to the US and Russia, there’s a biiiiig gap between them. you can take a look into the judging system and learn how flawed nationals usually are in those 2 countries. the Russian ladies especially can easily get a 90+ with technically poor jumps in the short program, and over 180+ points in the long. Chen’s SP in this year’s USNats was about 114 points alone, a feat that shouldn’t be possible or reasonable for a skater with his current ability.
@@kiyoomisakusa8214...oh, so you're making that statement based on how you personally feel about the Russian ladies and on the feeling that Chen _shouldn't_ be good enough to score 114 pts on his SP skate. Well, Nathan has scored almost 111 pts at an international competition before on a short program in Italy...just 2-3 pts less than what he got at nationals...so, yes, while Nationals indeed are generally a little more inflated, I don't see this "biiiig gap" you're referring to. I'd be interested in knowing what the Japanese skaters scored at their Nationals.
@@divinearia1601 if you’re so “interested”, then why don’t you look into it yourself? it appears the only reason you replied with and asked me that question in the first place was because you wanted to argue with a person on the internet who actually knows how the judging system works. i’d enlighten you with the details of their scoring, but i’m actually on holiday rn and unfortunately you’re not the only person who’s been bold enough to go against the word of someone who knows more than you do about the sport. if you happen to find my comments anywhere, either on this channel or on other channels (if you do a little digging and regularly catch up with ISU events i’m sure that wouldn’t be difficult, but seeing as you’re attempting to stupidly pick a fight with someone who knows better tells me otherwise, cause if you had done so then you would’ve been well informed by now on why my thoughts are how they are lmao), maybe then you’ll catch a glimpse of what i’m saying. if that’s too much homework for you (god forbid the person i’m trying to push into a corner here give me any tips on how to delve deeper into the sport because i want answers _here and now_ without effort, even though as someone who’s going out of their way to state there is no basis for this educated person’s claims, it’s slightly contradicting to be just that- someone with no basis to their words), the person(s) running this channel liked my comment. before you go on again about how tHaT iS nO BaSiS tO mY ArGumEnT, they never usually like comments that are misinformed or controversial with its opinions/perspectives. they always like educated comments about the scoring of certain skaters, about the comparison between A’s and B’s jump, and have made several replies in response to these topics. you can check their other videos to confirm. that in itself should already prove my point, and my point stands (and is pretty much concretely factual by now) that the inflation in USNats and Rusnats is miles more drastic than it is in JNats. check skatingscores.com and look for scoring sheets to your desire (i sound like an ads person lol) and take a look at the GOE’s, the PCS grades and the spin or StSq levels given. that should be easy to start with.
@@divinearia1601 also, be careful with who you outwardly claim 2-3 points is not considered a “big gap” to, because that statement in itself is usually already a testament to someone’s knowledge on the sport. “just” 2-3 points is false. that margin is quite large for a single program with less or, at most, equal quality to his GPF 2019 SP. for the overall accumulated results it might not be as big of a deal, but anything above 112 for Chen in the short is.
3:01 one of, if not the only, jump in this that deserved a 5. Holy shit that was the cleanest Quad Sal ever. (I understand Anna's jumps aren't very good technically, because of full blade assistance and excessive pre-rotation, but they look so seamless when they aren't slowed down. I mean you can still see full blade assistance when it's not slowed down, if that's what you're looking for, but still... The landing on her 4F was beautiful and I'm sure looks perfect to the average viewer.)
All beautiful, but number 6 was not a quad flip, more like a floop because if you watch the video at 0.25 you will notice she uses a full blade as support, meaning that the jump is not a flip.
I noticed it too, she does it a bit.
She does it often.
I want to throw this video on the face of those antis saying yuzu's jumps are getting worse 😂
Yuzuru👍👍👍❤
Yuzu ❤️👑
YUZURU 🔥🔥🔥❤❤❤ I'm so tired of kids jumping quads, i want to see true figure skating and Yuzu gives me that and more 🔥🔥
...go watch Yuzuru's performances instead of this video then. What's the problem?
There was a judge gave 3 to Yuzuru while other 4 to 5
@@sohlangan...can I just ask why that's a problem? Isn't each judge allowed to have a little bit of a different opinion?
quads are allowed in junior skating. so what's the problem?
nah... you're fanyu....the most toxic fs fans 🤡🤮
yuzuru makes every single jump effortless, sometimes i don't get why he doesn't get full GOE
That makes two of us Faith.
yuzuru hanyu is just something else!!
fell in love with his skating so muchhh 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Well, it’s not surprising, Yuzuru, Misha and Nathan have the best technique. Love them all 🥰
and Boyang's 4Lz
So sad that Quad Queen Sasha didn't make the list. Her GOEs at Nationals were too LOW for my liking. 🇷🇺⛸4️⃣👑 #SashaDeservedBetter At least Yuzu's jumps got the GOEs they deserved! 💖🇯🇵⛸🐐 #YuzuGOAT
-Best 4F: Nathan
-Best 4Lz: Boyang
-Best 4T: Yuzu
-Best 4S: Yuzu
Best lutz is Mikhail Kolyada
I think Sahsas GOEs are ok. Just the other a way to high!!!
agreed 👍🏻
@Jose Sandigo His GOE was 1.57 bud, no footwork so he got cucked on the GOE
Bonus: best 4Lo: Yuzuru hehe 😜
king kolyada is underrated, he is the best skater out there!
It’s Yuzuru’s entrance and exit for me
Yuzuru 4,5 rotation! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Near 5!!! Perfect!!!!
And where is Sasha???? 🤔
Sasha, for a very big injustice as a judge in Russia, is not present here. But Anya and Kamilla, with Eteri bonus, for some reason are here ..
@@fatimaabdikayir5418 Anna and Kamila get more GOEs than Sasha even when Sasha was with Eteri....
@@Helen-me1vn and what next? everyone can see perfectly well that Anya jumps lutz off the wrong edge, and they put space goes for her. Sasha does it perfectly, but as you can see, the judge decided differently. And there are a thousand such examples
@@Helen-me1vn So it's not about Eteri, but it's unfair anyway.
Daym hanyu back at it again
Now let's see this in slowmo 🙈😅
😏😏🤫
it amazes me how good boyang's 4lz is LOL it's like the cleanest quad lutz
Yes even my untrained eyes tell me that quad sal deserves first place
Literally nobody mentioning it so I will..
NATHANS TECHNIQUE IS FLAWLESS!! 🤩 no. 4 that flip looked like a triple it was that good!!
I said this once and I'll say it again; he should've been the one who got the title of first one to land a 4F in comp.
YES. His quads are effortless and his technique is indeed flawless, so clean. I love his 4Fs as well as his 4Lz. His 4S is beautiful too. His jumps are super unique because he does them with a quick, clean snap and the rotations are so tight and fast in the air. I mean, look at how quick that toe-pick assist was on that no.4 Flip. It looked so light(like he barely tapped the ice), seamless, and effortless.
Exactly. NC never gets the credit he deserves from fans and videos like this
Anna's Flip has a really bad technique, like her other jumps! The fact that she's on the list... ISU!!!
P.S. I like her and her artistry, but I can't deny the fact that her technique is not that good, comparing to Trusova for example
Also Kamila has an insane prerotation on her 2T of the combo!
Anna jumped triple flip😂
Kamila has always excessive prerotations
@@saraehtor7753 Kami probably has some of the worst lutz technique in the business!
@@skatergirl1247 watch video with girl's lutzes on this chanel
Dear, prerotation is unlimited in current CoP, want you or not. Stop learning rules from trash idiots like koola and their fake "analyzing" videos and download ISU handbook.
羽生さんの演技が後付けのBGMに、音がハマっててウケる！
How dare a judge give Yuzu only a +3?????????
He had an open flip during the landing of the quad toe. 3 is acceptable but the 4s and 5s are reasonable too. It's just how different judges see things.
Yuzu has 6~7 quad jumps judged at 4 and 5 after GOE+5😆
I believe everything happens for a reason, if he also got undeserved +5.03 +5.19 +5.59 +5.75 GOE, 130+ TES, and most hilarious 98.50 PCS for empty jumps and crossovers, instead of 0 +1 for perfect jumps/spins/stsq/chsq... he would never become the Greatest figure skater of the Century, he would be gone & forgotten long time ago... Time has put everything in it's place.
2:10-2:23(!!!)-2:30 Yuzuru's skating matching the music of the video. 🤌🏻
Skate Insider, did you do it on purpose?
Oh you should've seen Malinin's crazy combo of 4Lz+Eu+3Flip at Worlds this year. It had a Base Value of 19.03 and a GoE of 4.44. That's just crazy.
Mikhail ❤️👑 it's so beautiful
А давайте покажем гое не на национальный соревнованиях?) У Трусовой в Казани тоже гое за квад было 4 с чем-то.
Вот +
Национальные старты с чемпионатом мира сравнивать и другими стартами
Что за бред
и в стокгольме в этом году она получила рекордную оценку за квад лутц + тулуп..
Just wait for Yuzu's 4A...~~~
He said himself he hasn't actually landed one even it practice so realistically it's not going to happen.
@@benbailey159bb that's inexact. He will land it one day and I hope I will be there to see it. I was at GPF19 and it was already very impressive. This year he just made a complicated entry as well as though this jump was not hard enough.
@@benbailey159bb It doesnt mean he will never land it
The goe on kamilas jump was hillariosly inflated. Just look at that wobble after the 4t going into the 2t.
Not Anna's blade assisted, pre-rotated quad flutz
It is not lutz. Her jump was flip mister(missis) hater
I love Sasha’s 4Lz-3T！
She is better than Kamila
Let's be honest, Anna should be nowhere near this list. (Not saying she doesn't do other things well...but quad flip/lutz, no.)
Trusova's quad lutz isn't there while Anna's inside edge, full blade triple flutz is? I don't dislike Anna, in fact I think she's a wonderfully talented and sweet girl, but you have to be joking that Sasha with her actual quad lutz is not there. She's not technically perfect either, but I don't understand how Kamila and Anna are there where Sasha is not.
Also GOE is quite biased and a high GOE doesn't mean that the jump was good, it just means that you're probably a Tutberidze-taught, female Russian skater.
that’s exactly right
OMG mister hater. Her flip is in list not her lutz. She has flip correctly and her Lutz isn't flutz. Because she has flat edge not inside 😔😔😔
I will buy glasses for gou
Faltaron los cuádruples de Sasha trusova quien tiene récords por ellos,.no se porque no la.quieren,ella es arriesgada,disciplinada.,una excelente atleta que puso a saltar cuádruples a las mujeres..en.fin,todos.excelentes pero faltó.sin duda
To be honest I didn't watch the video cause I saw in the comments that Sasha is not here, and she's the reason I clicked in the video
I like how people here are spitting facts 😌
0:54 boyang's lutz!!!!!!!!
one of these is not like the others, the transitions in and out are insane!
The quad that Anna Shcherbakova did before the flip had 4,75
Which is just ridiculous for me as an extension of 3Lz
Guys, you can discuss about their techniques but please don't attack the athletes
Btw I love Boyang Jin quad lutz
where is sasha?
i'm offended because the quad queen sasha is not here . ridiculous
It's because Sasha wasn't training with Eteri at this time, so unlike Kamila and Anna, she wasn't getting the 'Eteri bonus'. Sasha wasn't in this video because her quads are bad, but because the other two girls' quads are overscored.
Kamila is still simply stunning, the best ladies figure skater right now not counting Kostornaya.
He has good packaging but her skating skills are mediocre and hee jump technique is poor.
@@benbailey159bb Obviously, someone knows nothing about figure skating, since Kamila LITERALLY the most artistic and component skater!
I would really say who has mediocre skating skills is Kaori Sakamoto. I don't understand the hype around her. untalented cow on ice 😂😂
Yuzuru Hanyu the king Shining ever ✨
Shouldnt have included domestic events
It definitely was my first idea!
But came to mind there are only 2 major international competitions throughout this season to compare with, the rest are 'invitational events' like the Grand Prix series. So I ended up gathering both domestic and international comps in this video.
I was, busy, thinkin', 'bout, quads...🎶,quads...🎶,quads...🎶
boyang has the best 4Lz in figure skating fight me on this
I see god in Nathan's quad flip
I may not like Nathan's skating but he has a beautiful 4F.
@@amandadean5470 lmao did I ask you whose skating do you like?
@@lisal-tg2zk Indeed :)
@@noran7809 some of Nathan's haters had a wasted day if they failed to mention that they didn't like his skating 😅
@@lisal-tg2zk...truths. It's amusing how every time they feel generous enough to give him a compliment, it's the back-handed kind. They're totally fine with Nathan being good, but they still want to make sure the world knows that he's not _that_ good, lol.
nathan chen got a 5 point geo in his rocket man solo
Anna and Camilla 💕
INSIDE EDGE, FULL BLADE ASSISTANCE, PRE ROTATION QUEENS😻YIKES
@@elisabethong38748 Do you know flip technique???
Flip should be inside edge and Anna did it true
This ranking is a joke
Why?
Aleksandra, la meilleure patineuse ,la plus forte dans le monde entier !!! Il n existe d autres!!! Ni Valieva,ni Cherbakova, ni personne !!!
What is the best GOE and who got that??
NATHAN CHEN once had a quad combine with like 5,00 of GOE so that video is kinda wrong no hate tho
It was going by percentage not overall points. Nathan's had higher GOE because the BV was 15ish. His percentage was around 90 something but this video isn't supposed to be top 10, it's just a list of high goe jumps.
Anna's quad is very comical. Its not quad, its triple flip 😂
Почему же?
Right, I can never tell the difference between her 4F and 3F... what the hell is wrong with isu
@@youngtrap3256 включите скорость на 0,25. Если вы умеете считать до четырёх, то вы явно не досчитаете одного оборота) да там не только недокрут вылезает, но и отталкивание всем лезвием, а не зубцом. Просто стыд, а не техника. Самое смешное, что судьи "ничего не видят"
@@saraehtor7753 ++, I cant feel difference too
@@levitat искренне не вижу никакого недокрута
Но с лезвием я соглашусь, конкретно этот прыжок таких надбавок не заслуживает
i hate that, in this video there are among these beautiful quads some ugly ass quads (by technique) for example nr 6, like Anna isnt a bad skater, but when it comes to quads just pls no, like dont do it, its so sad to watch them get so much score for a jump that aint even a quad like seriously. Im talking about these russian women (there are other skaters from other countries too, but mostly its always russian skaters) like grls got FULL BLADE ASSISTANCE, 3/4 PREROTATION, AND '' q '' , omfg cant even talk about isu corruption, and like bribing judges. and no im not blaming the skaters, theyre just told to do it like this, to get a better score, yeah i agree its easier to win, but frl isu aint doing nothing against it too, like if they had a rule about smth like '' IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN NO - OR MINIMAL PREROTATION THEN YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET minus points ''depending how bad it is, bet eteri would fix her skaters prerotation the second isu uploads the rule. Like it aint even a sport anymore.
#CANCELPREROTATIONANDFULLBLADEASSISTANCEANDWRONGORBADEDGE
sexist crybaby
She has inside edge on flip while Yuzuru, Chen and even Queen Yuna has flat edge on their flip
What's problem?
Actually great jumps in this video: Yuzuru, Mikhail, Yuma. Kami has great solo 4T but that combo was poor. Boyang's height on his 4Lz is out of this world and had great flow but he telegraphs it too much. Nathan's jumps are technically great as far as take offs go, but his landings aren't pretty and does too much 2-foot skating. Anna's jump - no comment - that's just a really bad take off.
Nathan's landings aren't pretty...lol. Well, at least he lands his jumps, unlike a certain supposedly _perfect_ someone else who's actually less consistent. I mean, those landings aren't very pretty either when he misses. And speaking of not being pretty...yeah, Yuzuru's floppy posture and dangly arms...not pretty at all either. Of course, great transitions though ^^
Divine Aria i agree. i honestly can’t figure out why people say his landings aren’t pretty after watching him for 3+ years because they usually look fine to me. (the exception would be at 2021 us nationals). it also is hard to watch yuzuru when he’s tired (no offense intended toward him, of course) because he’s, well, _tired_ , and it shows.
@@Mintcloud421...it's because they have nothing else to whine about. He jumps textbook jumps, his rotations are super fast and exciting, and he(more than anyone else) actually lands his jumps. The best they can do is cry about how, in their eyes, his landing doesn't look pretty enough.
@@Mintcloud421 it because of these things: 1. He lands on a stiff knee and not great knee bend. 2. His upper body leans forwards instead of staying vertical. This really helps you to keep your balance but it’s not an example of a good posture. 3. The way he brings his free leg out. It’s not very controlled and kinda sideways and kinda like a kick. 4. Most of the time very poor flow. 5. His shoulders are kinda up or hunched
@@divinearia1601 “at leats he lands his jumps” -> thats why we separate base values and goes. He prioritises staying on his feet so he shouldnt be rewarded for more than he actually does. And i didnlt say Yuzuru’s errors are beautiful. I said that the jumps he did in this video were beautiful - and those were squeaky clean. Rest of your comment is off topic, kinda like you dont have enough arguments on this particular topic.
ステップから飛んでないジャンプで高い加点って、ルール改正の意味があったのかな
GOE's at Rostelecom and /or Russian Nationals by Russian figure skaters is like execution score in National Olympic Trials for Gymnastic
Hella overscored
Where is Sasha. Even Kamila is here but Sasha isn't. Love Anna's and Sasha's quads. The leaders of revolution
Kamila’s 4T here is actually ONE of her good 4Ts cuz it finally landed on a flat to outside edge,and having 180 degree prerotation in toe loop is acceptable.Anyway I still hope she can train herself to land jumps more safely and stable.
Национальные старты с чемпионатом мира сравнивать и другими стартами ... 😏
а Вам не кажется, что везде должны оценивать по факту? вне зависимости от того, международный старт или нет
Y en donde está Sasha??? Que mal... Acaso se te olvidó que es la reina de los quads??
Los jueces en Rusia aveces no son muy justos acá se ve claramente el “Eteri bonus “ como le dicen
That fucking 4T+3T out of nowhere... ugh
What does the percentage mean?
100% is all 5 GOE. Each GOE point is worth 10% I believe
Shame on RusFed💀 The biggest joke of the year. I’m so sorry for Sasha, she deserved better. Hope she will change her citizenship after this season.
Why do men jumps get +4 and +5 GOE but we never see +4/+5 GOE with girls?
И откуда эти джое, с чр?😂
А то, что Саша прыгнула рекордный каскад на ГС это не в счёт, да)
Anna's 4Lz with 4.76 GOE is just ridiculous.
Did Anna scherbakova just get a 4.5 GOE for a quad 😂🤣😭😭😭
Yeah well deserved GOE
Cry baby cry
@@mbaxromov40 we both know that if it were the men's division that would be a negative GOE. Theres no point in pushing the ladies to do more when it's done incorrectly.
Anna get too much goe. It is unfair.
Still he can't beat Nathan the Quad King
Чену нужна Главная награда. Желаю удачи.
Comparing score across competitions with different panels of judges is relatively meaningless.
did u read the title?
@@archiouseemerald2268 yes, but how does my comment conflict with that? Like some other commenters noted, domestic competitions tend to give out higher GOEs. So it may be insanely high. But that’s just that.
i will report this video because sasha and shoma not here 😌 goodluck on your next video
most of the times mr. Yuzuru lands almost on his nose, his left leg all around circumnavigating the other one, his right knee always few centimeters from the ice in landings.
technique is another thing, (kolyada, Chen, Boitano, Fadeev, etc.). I guess Orser knows some of these gentlemen
Are you butthurt?? 😁
If his nose is on his foot then I guess
I am sorry but this "BING" sounds make me furious
I don’t like your casino music, other than that your video is nice.
Tbh, some of Nathan’s flips seem to take off on flat edge
Which ones? It's hard for me to tell how some of his are a take off from a "flat edge" while others are not. Do you have examples of the differences in his jumps?
There was not and there is no better quad Fip than Nathan's quad Flip. No wonder Nathan has the best ever 4F in figure skating history.
Same with 4 Lutz ...
@@divinearia1601 check the post of his flip takeoff here. For me the 2nd and 3rd are from inside edge. First one is unclear and the last one is outside. twitter.com/intelligentYuzu/status/1321993310429306880?s=19
@@noran7809 his Lutz is no doubt textbook. And I'd say his quad flip is the best among all skaters as no one has both consistent clear inside takeoff edge and clean toepick. But there are skaters like Carolina Kostnor who can do both for triple flip.
@@SummerYu0625...sorry, but I have no idea how you can tell inside edge vs outside edge from those stills. They're really not that different from each other at all, from what I can tell. I think BOTH Nathan and Yuzuru have been criticized for having "unclear edges" before:
ruclips.net/video/JhI7SO-ONn8/видео.html
According to an older simulation of a flip jump, it was textbook to use a relatively straight edge. So, why did the ISU suddenly ask that an inside edge be used? Anyway, I feel like Yuzuru fans are just trying to find fault and flaws in Nathan's skating...even saying that his scores need to be punished. I'm curious in what your opinion on Yuzuru's flip is. Is the edge on his flip perfect, in your eyes? If Nathan's is not inside enough then neither is Yuzuru's. And, honestly, if Nathan's flip is still one of the very best among all skaters, why take the time to criticize only him?
Except for the two russian girls, the scores are pretty OK...
sexist
€1
shcherbakova 💀
When I see that the phenomenal 4salchow by Chen did not receive the highest GOE on WTT and WC, but the two-legged 4S freak performed by Hanyu - they received them twice - I want to close figure skating.
Regardless of the actual GOE number, Nathan's 4S in his FP was beautiful. Also his 4Lz.
2 legged???? I forgot what happened in WC and WTT but is it the entry?
When I see Hanyu is officially recognized the Greatest Figure Skater of the Century, 6th Greatest Athlete in 100 years of sports history, Top 10 Greatest Olympian of the Century, placed in so many GOATs & Legends lists... I feel so proud to be his fan. Greatest Figure Skater of the Century, and the best part is, GOAT of the Century is still active and continuing making history... 👍