Best Ladies Lutz Jump? World Championships 2021 - Lutz Edge Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Here’s a lutz jump analysis of the top ladies at the Worlds Championships 2021 - featuring Anna Shcherbakova, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Alexandra Trusova, Rika Kihira, Kaori Sakamoto, Karen Chen, and more.
Get your popcorn ready, and enjoy!
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Hello, I have an idea for video. Would you be interested to take a look back at the skaters from the previous generation? To check lutzes of Sasha Cohen, Irina Slutskaya, Shizuka Arakawa, Michelle Kwan and some others from the same period. Are flutzes among the top skaters the disease of this decade or they were around earlier, but we weren't just awared?
Thank you for the reminder. I totally agree :)
Please don't let the 1/2 pre-rotation pass
@@SamSam-ru2qi YES YES YES!!!!! This is where too many “flutz’s” come in as well. And certain skaters try to hide it with lovelier, more complex take-off intros. “Oooh I was watching that, not watching closely for the outside edge…the flat or the inside edge take off!” You’ve got to be all focused on that entry edge to see it! Judges get a closer look, but few spectators do. That’s not to say that they shouldn’t work on more complex, more graceful jump entries, BUT only if they don’t use it as a crutch to hiding flat or true outside edge Lutz take-offs. Some hide their Flutz too easily, almost as if it’s a conscious choice or training technique like pre-rotation
@@queenofnevers6990 YES! I’d love to see that!
-Liza: beautiful lutz
-Judges: yeah, +1 GOE💀
У Лизы самый лучший лутц, только её всегда, к сожалению, придерживают и не дооценивают!
@@OlgaKuznetsova73 справедливости ради, это не судьи занижают, а сами правила оценки гое дурацкие. на технику они не обращают внимания, только на входы-выходы и позицию в воздухе/приземлении, а все это у лизы хромает :(
@@OlgaKuznetsova73 It's like the judges are personally offended that she is a great skater and is still competitive with the younger skaters 😂
I'm gonna say this now: Kaori has a flutz. This is common knowledge. She got called on it (3Lze), which is correct. I'm still proud of her for putting out 2 good programs! 🥰👏💖🇯🇵⛸ Also, Elizaveta got robbed on the GOE for her lutzes in the short and in the free. They were absolutely perfect!! So happy to see the Empress back on podium after 6 years! She was amazing! 🤩💖🇷🇺🥈👸
Empress is always so underrated by judges (in terms of GOE). I have a strong feeling, if the scoring was correct, Liza'd be the World Champion again
I thought Liza’s Second lutz as shown here was clearly under rotated
Rika and Liza have very clean jumps! The state of Art for a triple! But can we also appreciate Trusova's *rippon* quad Lutz? She can improve the jump, of course, but it's still impressive.
Flutzes are everywhere to the point that seeing true lutzes feels weird.
Great technique by Liza, Karen, Rika, and Olga. Well plus Sasha for at least a corect edge take off. Shout out to Yelim Kim SP 3Lz+3T (even though Lz edge was flat) was so huge and had so much running edge, I got the feel of Yuna Kim signature combo. Anna besides the unclear edges for her F and Lz, her toe pick technique is just athrocious. She prerotates more than 180 deg.
Yea, it was huge and that speed... Really reminds me of Yuna too. If she can correct it, it would be great. But eh, would be hard i think.
Seems like the KR ladies do have Yuna in their mind when jumping 😂.
Yelim Kim is so underrated and deserves more recognition, and also Olga Mikutina's gorgeous rippon position is my new favourite now 😍
But KRfed is shit 😭😭
They can do so much better... They have so much potential ngl. KRfed better took care of their ladies better.
Off topic, but i really like Yelim's SP dress. That green is so beautiful
@@rayneforresy640 I know! Yelim Kim SP is on my replay rotation. It's very classy. I've never seen Korean skaters have bad costumes. Their packaging game is on fire.
Agree with this 100%.
Rika and Liza😍😍
Karen Chen had a very good Lutz too❤
Rika′s Lutz is always perfect. Liza′s also gorgeous.
True technic ladies.
I like how the music suddenly change at liza's lutz hahaha. really like her lutz and overall program and her attitude!
everybody know that liza has the best technic on the jumps. she is specially the queen of the lutz! and to see she got lower goe than many girls is just ridiculous. !
Liza has the best ladies' lutz in the world imo. What upsets me though is that the judges tend to overlook Anna's "flat" edge even though it isn't a clean takeoff. It is so unfair that the judges favor certain skaters (Team Tutberidze mainly) while harshly judging other skaters like Kaori for flutzing.
We saw the same with Evgenia. The judges would ALWAYS ignore her flutz when she was with Eteri but then started finally deducting her after she went to Brian 🤦🏽♀️
It's criminal that Tuktamysheva is getting ZERO GOE on a TEXTBOOK lutz while the other Russians were getting consistent 3s and 4s on loop jumps masquerading as "lutz".
Liza may have a criminally low GOE but Sasha’s technique improved a lot since a few years. The o my thing she has to correct is her prerotation but again, a LOT of skaters have a loop entry, not only the Russians. Almost all of them except Rika, Olga, and Karen (and Liza of course). But blaming the Russians on something they are not the worst at betrays a lack of impartiality.
紀平さんとリーザのブレード全体を着かずにトゥでしっかり跳ぶルッツはもっと評価してあげてほしい。多くの選手がフルブレードになってるけど、その時点で実質はインサイドのエッジジャンプであるループもどきになるから、物理的にアウトサイドで跳べてないよね。。
Olga Mikutina!!! I saw her potential at Euros last year, and I'm so glad she delivered this weekend!!😍
(Also Karen's was gorgeous as always!!)
yas yas yas she deserves more recognition!!!
Yeah, Olga's lutz is SOO beautiful
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This is why I'm not impressed with Anna. Sasha for her boldness, yes, I'm impressed. But, Liza and Rika are definitely better with their skating skills. Artistry-wise, I'll have to give few more years to the younger competitors. Liza's aesthetic really isn't up to my taste.
In this competition Rika and Sasha have a lot of mistakes unfortunetly
Anna and Sasha skating skills are both better than Liza. The three Japanese skaters had the best skating skills here and Yelim, Karen, and Haein are probably the best after them. Anna, Sasha, Loena, Bradie, etc. are just in the middle of the pack
@@Plaspos not just the ladies, the men also have the best skating skills out of their group. Japanese skating school should exclusively teach SS and spread the love
None of them showed true artistry. They may show some spirals and jumps, but they show very little artistry. Maybe for Alina Z. though.
@@yohanes2034 I have to disagree, of the men here I think Jason had the best skating skills. Second Kolyada. The third could be Yuzuru, Yuma, or Kevin. Shoma has amazing skating skills but I don't think he shows it well at all with these two programs, he needs a more challenging choreography and bladework outside of the step sequence
Sasha's quad lutz is the only real quad lutz in women skating history. What a queen🥰👑
if you don’t count the flat blade then yes
@@gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859 but... did you seen the outside edge..?
@@alexiadesantis6204 she has an outside edge but she uses a full blade which basically makes it a loop
@@gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859 full blade is a jump technique, not the best technique, but the jump is definitly a lutz not a loop
@@alexiadesantis6204 it’s an incorrect technique... it’s a toe pick jumps. not a blade jump
Yelims edge isn’t great but it’s the biggest jump here! Appreciation for her that her jump combo doubled in distance from last year
agree 😍 her combo is one of my fav for now
Yes~~~~
Fantastic video! Very instructional to non-skaters. Love it. Thanks for educating people.
🥇Liza
🥈Rika
🥉Karen
完全同意です。
むしろこの3人以外ルッツじゃない。
@@酢酸-x3x ミクティナは結構きれいなルッツですよね
惜しいのがトゥルソワとテネルといったところでしょうか
@@tappudansuyanagi
うーん。テネルと変わらないように見えます。
軌道は綺麗だけど、最後の最後にエッジが起きてるように見えるし、1/2のプレロテなのでちょっと微妙かな〜。
私はトゥルソワの方がマシに見えました。
まぁシェルバコワとか坂本さんとか韓国勢とかヘンドリックスよりは全然マシですけどね。
@@酢酸-x3x リーザとアーニャのルッツを同じ大会で見ててジャッジは何も感じないんでしょうかね
That the gold medal winner had gotten a +2 GOE with what now isn’t even a Flutz but looks more like a FLOOTZ is so disgusting, even more compared with the flawless technique of Liza! I really hope Rus Nat were her peak...
Karen and Rika 🤭
Anna has flutz. She always takes off with a flat edge and definitely needs to improve her lutz jump.
I love Anna so much. When they score her too high, it demeans her skating. Give her what she earns. She doesn’t need any help.
Nobunari Oda, one of famous skaters in Japan, said Liza was the best lutz jumper in the world.
Other skaters are not sure the edge is clear until they see the slow screen. However, Rika and Liza have clear edges just by looking at them.
ISU should be strict with its scoring. With available technique, it’s very easy for the technique panel to review all jumps and grade them properly. Don’t spoil wrong edges or pre-rotations.
I like mikutina’s entrance a lot, it’s different but old school at same time
The Judges should watch your video
Should we still even call it a “toe pick” then? HAHAHAHA! Great vid 🙌🏻
karen chen lutz is incredible
awesome editing :)
little mistake: at 04:20 you put the German flag instead of the Belgian flag
oh noooo, i'm very sorry for that and thanks for point it out 😖
Liza's best text book lutz!!!
Beautiful skaters and skating, as an adult figure skater myself, I know how hard it is to execute even a single jump.. so I am impressed of all the skaters that do all those jumps.
I think the best lutz came from Rika, Liza, and Karen... 😊
Liza and Rika has no pre-rotation but Sasha and Anna has pre-rotation, especiallu Anna has much more. And anna has no clear edge
There's one thing I'm thinking:
When a skater skates, if their techniques is just like textbook, the judges can give them +5's on GOE on the jumps, spins and stsqs then the judges minus back the points to the performance and choreography points if the program doesn't look "aesthetic" to them. For example:
- Elizaveta should've received +4-5 GOE for her Lutz jumps because how well she executed them. On the contrary, her presentation and choreo not very pretty then the judges can reduce her points on that.
- Anna's Lutz jumps should've been reduced the GOE down to below +3 because of the toepick, severe pre-rotation and wrong edges on them. But her presentation, choreo and transition look beautiful then the judges can increase her points on those.
I mean, art is objective, but techniques have standards, you have to judge techniques of a skaters based on those standards. If the judges had given points that way then figure skating would've been a fair sport.
У Лизы все прыжки как по учебнику 👍
Thanks for the video! :)
I would love you to make a video on all the different jumps and what makes them different. I watch and have no idea which jumps are which. Sometimes I can identify an axel. It goes so fast for an untrained eye.
Aleksandra💯💯💯💯🌹🌹🌹
not aleksandra. its alexandra.
Why do such master class skaters make these faults? Don't their coaches see that? Can't they improve that?
У Елизаветы Туктамышевой самая правильная техника прыжка ! Профессору Мишину слава ! Лизе огромной удачи и новых спортивных побед !
一部の選手のスコアをみると、フルブレ、プレロテ、エッジが曖昧だとしても、回りきれれば加点という感じだった。かなり前からだけど。
メドベージェワから始まって、今はシェルバコワですね。
シェルバコワのメドベ化が顕著になってきましたね。
一部のファンの話によれば、ロシア女子は、ソチ五輪の時から、見逃し加点からのGOEの爆盛りがありました。PCSの上げ方も半端なかったです。選手によりますが。
メドベージェワについては、シニアにデビューしてから、見逃し加点からのGOE爆盛りがありましたね。PCSもシニア1年目で、8点台後半までありましたし。
Ack. At this point since no one ever calls Anna’s questionable edges and blade assistance I’m starting to question the corruption in the ISU judging panel. I mean come on. They’re perfectly happy to call other ladies’ same issues. But noooo. Not the Russian ladies. Not Anna.
I mean, at the start of this video we already know Anna has the worst edge in a Lutz of all the top ladies plus the full-blade assist, and the empress being the empress, as usual hehe. The fact that it is kinda accepted that pre rotation in a Lutz has become 1/2 now is just disappointing. Yuna, Elizaveta, and Karen needs to show them how its done.
Also, notice how all Eteri skaters have a terrible lutz? Anna, Alena, Sasha, Evgenia, Usacheva, the list goes on. Because its not really the skaters to blame, but the coaches. The skaters are merely students who make do with what they are taught. So if you will hate on anyone, hate on the coaches tolerating disappointing, horrible, and cheated techniques.
And that the Russian girls are all unable to have a long career due to the technique they are taught by their coaches is just sad.
@@simpletruth5927 Yes, only Elizaveta has had a long career because she has the strong foundation of a good technique. It makes me sad for the Russian skaters, because in Russia there are just so many skaters that they can be replaceable.
Sasha doesn't have terrible lutzes... she actually has a deep outside edge and she's actually using the toe pick a lot more than the other Eteri girls who are using the full blade. Also, her prerotation has also been cut down a lot in addition to the fact that her lutz in this video was a rippon quad lutz.... while everyone else's was just a triple.
give liza and rika their well deserved GOEs ffs
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Satoko, Ekaterina Ryabova, Eva-Lotta KIIBUS also have a flutz
Lutztamysheva 👑
Olga Mikutina,Akexandra trusova and Liza are the best❤️❤️❤️⛸️⛸️⛸️
Video thank you 👍👍👍 lutz jump is liza best 👍👍👍 from korea
How funny that GOE is applied only for extras that have nothing to do with the correct execution of the element as such. There are no GOE bullets for deep outside edge, nor for correct toe-pick nor for minimal pre-rotation. But there are bullets for everything else. How can that be when GOE literally means "grade of execution"? So basically one can jump a lutz with inside edge, full blade assistance and 360° pre-rotation and still lose zero points and score +5 GOE even though the jump is not executed according to what its own definition says it should look like.
Right, this is why this sport has the most ridiculous judging system
Great stuff!
Why is light toe tap important?
Wow it's so rare to see an adult Russian woman skating. She is incredible too.
Лучший и технический правильный-Туктамышевой
Not trying to be a bother but Loena Hendrickx is not from Germany but from Belgium 🇧🇪
Надписи попадают на коньки и ничего непонятно. Текст надо было разместить в стороне от изображения
Спецом поставлено, чтоб недокруты в зубец не было видно , именно такие скрытые недокруты автор выдает за докрученные , где хочет скрыть ребро или недокруты прикрывает надписью
А что я думаю ! , Лиза ЛУЧШАЯ ! ЛИЗА !
ur comparing triple with quad. should use sasha's 3lz for comparison. quads are harder.
how come you mark some as q when they have less then 15 minute underrotation, and others who have a clear 15 as fully rotated?
Ваш перевод закрывает коньки. И всего то...подумаешь, музыку послушали...
順位無茶苦茶、紀平とliza以外殆どまともじゃないしロシア偏重主義だしね
Kim Ye-rim's Triple Lutz, Triple Toe loop It was beautiful.
The sound effect that you use when displaying text boxes is just so very annoying. Something less sharp and sudden might be a better option imo.
How is shcherbakova firts with that terrible flutz? And sasha third?
У Саши квад, у остальных тройные. Сравнение некорректно, на мой взгляд.
Техника не меняется от количества оборотов. И ясное дело, что в её случае бонус выше за наличие этих самых оборотов, её достижения никто не преуменьшает, но это не значит, что всё идеально. Из квадристок у Саши безусловно лучшая техника.
Liza the Empress!!!
Is it just me or Kaori Sakamoto's takeoff reminds me of medvedeva's?
Туктамышева, Кихира, Чен, Микутина лучше всех исполняют лутц из этого списка спортсменок. Качество прыжка не вызывает никаких вопросов. +4,+5.
Elizabeth Is the Best 💜💜💜💜💜💜
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Такие разборы полетов, конечно,- прекрасно. Но это был чемпионат по фигурному КАТАНИЮ, а не прыганию. Нужно "зреть в корень"!Так что вполне заслуженные места. Российские девчонки были лучшими. И наиболее интересными. Лизуне - отдельное почтение за силу воли и несгибаемость. Царица!
тут разбирают, как оценили ПРЫЖКИ, а именно лутц, узрите в корень того, что оценки за неверную технику слишком большие. Другое дело, некорректно сравнивать гоэ за прыжок в каскаде и отдельный прыжок
Tuktik ist the best
Rika's GOE on her Lutz should be the highest of the competition. Liza has a beautiful takeoff as well, but there's something about the way she lands that is aesthetically unpleasing to me, but that's just personal preference and not something that should lower her GOE. Anna not getting an edge call is, again, ridiculous. A little part of me wonders if Anna is getting such high GOE to pressure the Russian federation to keep her on the Olympic team even though she will be past the Eteri expiration date by the time the Olympics do roll around.
Anna’s jump is disgusting.... unqualified winner
So , I don't know who best ladies Lutz jump?
Кто конкретно проводил "разбор полетов"? Тренер, спортсмен?
I told this before and I will tell this again. Anna's lutz is a lutz as much as I am a cat.
The "common prerotation" shouldn't be common
Its a shame isu isn't doing anything about this
Ladies championship more like young teen dance
Liza!
Dont forget sashas lutz is quad.
Russian skaters' lutz seems like flooptz..
Nervous music 😖
El único 3Lz de libro de texto es de la Emperatriz Elizaveta Tuktamisheva.
Alexandra Trusova tiene un buen 3Lz y 4Lz.
Kihira tuvo un buen 3Lz
Las otras Patinadoras tienen entre aceptable y regular 3Lz.
For eteri kids, it should be full blade circa rather than toe pick.. ISU JUDGES YOU REALLY INFLATED SKATER SCORES... really take a pity on rika and liza.
Why always only lutz? Figure skating is not only about lutz. Like you all only know what lutz is and don’t care for other 5 jumps, step sequences, choreo and spins. Yeah it’s the hardest 3 revelations jump, but like it’s not the most important thing in figure skating?
It's because ISU keep on refusing to judge Lz properly. They selectively call on lz edge on certain skaters (like Kaori and Haien Lee or Yelim flat edge) but ignoring the error of some others. It's becoming an obsession of many fans. Also comparing to the other 5 jumps, I bet Lutz is one of the jump that many skaters could not master properly, be it the proper takeoff edge or the pre rotation. Funny that ISU calling lip more often than flutz for no reason either.
The Lutz is the most cheated jump and the TP and judges are not doing anything to call it, that's the problem.
@@yohanes2034 they also can’t master properly double axel and loop. A tom of skaters struggle with this 2. Yuna did not go for loop, cause she could not do blade assistant jumps. And it hurts knees a lot. So where are the loop videos?
I believe what matters is not what edge you use for a takeoff but a relative of how inside or outside you go compared with your regular edge game. If your anatomy does not allow you to make your edge deeper and there are only 6 elements, you might show them all, what would you do? Jump as you can. Perhaps there are certain notes on what each of skaters capable of doing and they’re also judged by that.
It’s not gymnastics, you can’t choose 1 of 357394 vaults if you’re not capable of doing pike. In FS you MIGHT jump all of those 6 jumps. 🤷♂️
Number of skaters who struggle with axel and loop combined is still less than lutz. You can count up to 10 out of all skaters who entered WC who can do proper Lutz jump. Also what is with this concept of edge relative to skaters body? in sport there is only you can do it or not. So if a skater has shallow edge then he/she can get away with flat lutz/flip? Is this still a sport?
Rules are made for this, outside edge for lutz and inside for flip. They can still perform the jump but deduction is mandatory. Not receiving deduction for clear violation is unfair for skaters who can do it properly.
Note: I know about natural lutz jumper, it sucks that someone has it easier than the other but natural talent also plays a role in other sports
I think Kaori's lutz being called proves the judges can see when a lutz isn't a true lutz, they just unfortunately choose not to see it for some skaters. I feel bad for all the skaters that this is how judging is because it helps none of them - if lutzes were called properly those who had problems with them would have a reason to fix it, and those who don't would get the extra points they deserve.
True. Eteri camp doesn't even care about fixing edge problems because they know they'll never be called for it. Biggest example is Evgenia and Sasha only got edge calls when they left Eteri. I'm curious to see if Trusova is gonna get edge calls on her Flip now that she has returned to Eteri.
True
@@WES6666 why only Eteri? They basically blink for every other Japanese/US etc. skaters who need to be higher while calling Kaori...
@@WES6666 Sasha still get flip called after returned to Eteri on Rusnat and only her
@@kerorin2723 yeah it's so outrageous that the skater that has the best technique out of all of Eteri's is the only one thats getting edge calls. The judges are literally backwards.
Rika's lutz technique is literally flawless
Sasha deserve her GOE. She's lutz is really good with deep outside edge and clen rotation. An other thing is Anna. She's lutz is not even a lutz.. anyway liza's goe was really low☹
Trusova's Lutz is QUAD not triple! No women in the world has her beautiful quad lutz! She has worked so hard to minimalize prerotation, and her air position is amazing. Trully an amazing athlete. Other than trusova Lisa is amazing and Kihira. That's the 3 girls I would want to have in the podium
Eliza had such a terrible tano arm position on 3lz 3t
It comes with the Eteri bonus I suppose
@@lydiasfontouri3466 It makes no difference how many people can do a certain element, the judges shouldn't give high GOE to an unclean element just because it's rare. If judged correctly, a clean triple should be worth more than a cheated quad. The current judging rewards dangerous practices, these girls are pretty much guaranteed to wreck their body before they turn 20 instead of having a chance at a long, sustainable career.
Liza is a lutz queen!!! Why only +1 GOE, judges ???
@@rlrl781 ok, leave it to 3-3 jump, but goe for her solo Lutz are criminally low😥
@@meitaslonimski6807 totally agree. The solo Lutz deserved a +4 GOE!
@@amandadean5470 yes!! So sad to think judges were afraid of Liza's victory if her FS was clean, so it becomes pretty clear why her GOE for lutzes are so low
because they are bad and pathetic
Because there are 6 possibilities which increase jump GoE. Her jumps don’t look effortless. The way she lands them feels like it’s not stable. Her finishing pose is not really aesthetically pleasing. So the position in both air and on landing is also not there. The only thing she has is height snd length. Perhaps also that choreo before the jump. But to be fair those steps are wack.
+1+2 is what it might get
Liza's getting 0s for her lutzs and Anna 4s all around. What a crazy world.
That's what happens if you don't train under Tutberidze, the bias seems more and more clear
@@wg2226 So true, and they can get away with doping as well.
@@imari9997 поэтому и бегут все к этой грузинке потому что знают какие там грибы дают, у Мишина кроме Лизы никого нет знают что там так не нагрибуют.
i think they should start finally deducting anna for her flutz😔 at least so she can maybe work on it like alena did
yep, unfortunately her coaches have realized that she will not be called and load as many "lutzes" as possible into her programs to gain extra points unfairly. when she does 4lz she typically is up to 5 lutzes a competition, (1 3Lz in sp, 2 3lz and 2 4lz in fs) keeping several extra points when the lutz edges are not called and points are not deducted appropriately. it's very sad to see not just for anna but for other skaters who are losing placements unfairly, i'm not sure why the isu is so content with doing this.
@@quadlutzes5788 that was last season and it's my biggest gripe. By only applying ! she could lose 10-12 pts combine because of how many lutzes she did. Plus if I'm being honest her flip is also sometimes unclear and ISU tends to be easy on calling flip edges. Anna in the junior was getting ! on her flip several times but since she became front runner the calls suddenly gone.
1) Anna's edge is flat, not inside (i.e. not a 'flutz').
2) Aliona's too. She had (sometimes in the past) shallow outside just because they got rid of any entry (?), so she could focus on her edge. Now it's definitely flat.
3) Alexandra's flip edge is outside - 'lip'. But she got only '!' call in both programs.
4) Bradie also has a flat edge, but I don't see any '!' in the details...
5) Bonus. Kaori's flutz was not called at WC2019. So, I understand now, why she put 3Lz, not 3Lo, in her short. But it was called this time.
So, I think, it would be great, if all (not only lutz edges) would be called correctly and judging all (not only eteri girls) skaters would be questioned.
@@sanya5788 WC 2019 was lenient all around. If I recall correctly, no one got called like Zhenya, Sofia, and Kaori. But in this WC 2021, TP were only growing conscience when they judge certain skaters and not all. IMO it's the worst compared to not call it at all.
@@yohanes2034 not only WC2019, but also GPF, 4CC and so on (about Kaori). It's just funny how people keep saying the same thing about certain skaters, but there are bradie, kaori (with big prerotation) and many other skaters, whose edges are of questionable quality. Sorry but ignorance is annoying. And what about WC2021. Many underrotations were not called correctly. So, the panel in Saitama was forgiving the edges and in Stockholm - the underrotations.
The Empress Liza has stayed in the game and kept up her quality skating skills that she started when the majority of the girls (except for the lovely Bradie) in this field were literally babies. I’m so happy that she was able to attend the 2021 World Championships to showcase her skating skills at 24. I’m also so incredibly proud of her that she earned the silver medal 🥈👏🏻❤️
since most of the comments here are praising Rika and Liza(which is very very well deserved), I'm just going to shout out to Karen for having a great Lutz. Great comeback!
Karen's lutz is huge!!! Such an underrated skater in general, really!!
@@skatergirl1247 Yeah! I’m all for her going to the Olympics again! So wish she will fix some of her issues too but she is such a great joy to watch!:)
and the Austrian skater - Olga Mikutina in 8th place. I'm a big fan of her rippon jump!! 😍
@@SkateInsider huge mood!
Yes, thank you for pointing that out! Karen always has a magnificent lutz-it covers so much distance and she has gorgeous technique to compliment that.
The fact that Anna has such a high goe with flutz and full blade and pre rotation makes me sick. Done with isu and the sport...whats the point of having a competition if the judging is not fair
Зато катается разы красивее остальных участниц. Её плавность гасит все недочёты.
"But she skates several times more beautiful than the rest of the participants. Its smoothness extinguishes all the flaws."
@@ЮрийКозин-ю3м извините, но плавность на может перекрыть неправильную технику)
@@katyyyyyaDi музыкальность и плавность могут, минус 1 за технику плюс 1,5 за красивое исполнение.
@@ЮрийКозин-ю3м people have eyes though.
Well it's been a while since the judges started to give ridiculously high GOE to Anna despite all the edges and pre rotations. Also the PCS scores of Anna is wayyyy too high compared to the other competitors , which is unfair. In my opinion (including most of the figure fans) I think the ISU just decided to give exceptionally high scores to her to make her on the podium
"expected pre rotate now". I laugh so hard
figure skating channel like us are close to giving up on ancient correct lutz technique at this point 😔
Yo también, aunque en este punto no me sorprendería que anuncien un cambio con respecto a la prerotacion 😔
That’s actually very sad lol especially for those few skaters with correct technique
@@SkateInsider true );
Please please please no... Let's NOT have 1/2 pre-rotation become "the expectation nowadays"... That's just so not ok. Skaters CAN DO IT RIGHT. Just because a large amount of them don't learn proper technique doesn't mean that proper technique itself has changed.
Could not agree more. I enjoyed the video very much, but it doesn't make it right that some skaters has wrong technic. It stays wrong technic and is just sad they still get high for for it. Judges are not competent enough or don't put afford to replay the video while technical specialist don't have symbol to mark this (as opposed to < to UR)
glad to hear your feedback on it ☺️
@@SkateInsider thank you for considering it! I'm very worried that if we give way to the judges' completely baseless judging, it'll only make things worse. If ISU isn't going to uphold their own standards, we as the community of skaters and spectators must do it.
@@SkateInsider Just wanted to second Edward's opinion here! I know that 1/2 prerotation or more has come to be common, but in my opinion as a skater and as a fan, that takes away credit from the skaters who actually have fully correct technique. I'd rather give more credit to skaters who have good lutzes than overlook the skaters who still have work to do on their lutzes in order to fully master the jump. Just my opinion of course, but figured I'd share it here anyways to continue the conversation!
I’d rather say fully rotated jump with 1/2 prerotation is better than 14 prerotation and underrotation.
Not learning ‘proper ancient lutz technique’ gives skaters more time to master skating skills, try quads. So if ISU is okay with it, i’d rather watch exciting quads than proper lutzes and doubles in free skate.
Rika Kihira's “The deepest outside edge” deserve high praise. Wonderful！
I like Liza' s and Rika's lutz. They're really beautiful.