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@@stellviahohenheim I’ll make an afterlife metaverse, it euthanizes you and sends you to an afterlife, there’s not many testimonies or first hand reviews, but that’s just a small setback for moving to the next dimension, there’s no proof it works, but it’s worth a try. You wouldn’t wanna risk FOMO now would you?
When I was a child, I envisioned VR/gaming/simulation as an opportunity to explore new, complex, exotic, and impossible environments. I foresaw it as a chance for doctors to swim around people's bloodstream or airways to see what's wrong, or for the disabled to experience life as we live it, or for robot operators to be able to maneuver drones in safety. Never in a million years did I imagine that they'd transfer the eternal grift of the real estate bubble to the virtual world. Jesus cyberdecking Christ what is this timeline...
It's one of those things that has cool or at least fun applications, yet is being overshadowed by scummy entities. Instead of innovating and making it better, they've muscled their way in, taking claim of all the associated language and then try to sell you the bare minimum of effort. And with the rise of more "legit" but controlling companies like Amazon and Meta, even the less scammy ones will be tainted by trying to have control of your life through it. (Can you imagine having to go to work with your VR headset all the time? That you have to buy from them? When a webcam or even just email would have sufficed?) Being associated with things like crypto scams and shallow, buzzword filled marketing pushes means that eventually, even trying to develop something for it is going to have to overcome the hurdle of people's reaction being "ugh another one of those things?" The last few years they've basically grabbed concepts that have been slowly growing for decades and are trying to speedrun them into the ground.
@@Devin7Eleven I'm ignorant of most things, so he just seems like a goofy chubby stoner fella from my neck of the woods. One of the few movie people I enjoy who I haven't learned to be garbage humans.
Still surprising to see how many companies are trying and failing to chase the success CS:GO has. Skins and knives that sell for thousands or in some cases tens of thousands of dollars, and yet they remain relatively stable for close to a decade now. They show that a digital cosmetic can still provide utility and hold value beyond pyramid scheme reselling.
Reason is, CSGO can be an amazing game if you like it, same with TF2, i used to play hours every day, used to bet on matches and everything was fun Companies are trying to sell you the lootboxes without the good game, proof they don't understand anything about the customer
Dude you don't get it. With NFTs you will be able to [thing that existed since early MMOs], [Second life 2 electric Boogaloo], [VRchat but made so corporate safe to the point of being as bland as porridge], and [thing that could never work unless you turn every game into an extremely unified framework of stats and models].
Actually! It’s honestly surprising how dumb people are when it comes to gaming. It’s what MMO’s been doing since the existence of that genre! RL, Trove, CSGO, WoW- the list goes on for ages about how traders have made money with in game items. It’s nothing new, it’s nothing special and I don’t condone it unless you know how to do it and now if anyone who talks about trading to make money in games are labeled CRYPTO BROS because some dumbass labeled it as a crypto thing. JUST GOD HOW ARE PEOPLE EATING THIS CRAP UP?!
I want to play a “dystopian future” game where your character lives in a crackhouse / slum hellscape, but your character escapes reality by putting on VR glasses to live in the Metaverse. Now that’s “meta”.
He just had the flu - look up his comment at the top of the comment section. I knew how he felt because I just recovered from "Moronic Rona" and my voice was rough for a while.
Playing to earn is nothing but a dream, sounds great on paper but the reality of the outcome is far darker than any kind of positive that can come out of this.
I mean, if they made a game wherein profit made by your playing was split between you and the company, that would be great but that actually being viable is literally a fantasy. I mean its hard enough for content creators to get paid fairly for getting eyes on ads [which wouldnt watch without them creating said content] Honestly, the only way i could see it actually working would be because the game came with a bitcoin miner
To me, it doesn't even sound great on paper. I can't imagine wanting every aspect of my life dedicated to making money. Somethings should be just for fun.
Everytime I hear "Play to Earn" on something, the FIRST thing I think of is: "Play so we can steal your data and sell it to fraudulent individuals or ad companies!"
Anytime i heard "play to earn" i think about the bot farms for RMT. There's more money to make boosting people on MMOs than in all of these blockchain game.
It's really annoying to see those cryptobros kept saying stuff like 'why don't these games has play to earn mechanic in it?' or 'they will missed the opportunity of a lifetime if they don't applying blockchain on their games'. It's like they knew everything about video game industry, yet all they want to do is to suck all the money from everyone's pocket through their Ponzi's pyramid. Also what's up with the two bots above me.
Exactly! It’s honestly surprising how dumb people are when it comes to gaming. It’s what MMO’s been doing since the existence of that genre! RL, Trove, CSGO, WoW- the list goes on for ages about how traders have made money with in game items. It’s nothing new, it’s nothing special and I don’t condone it unless you know how to do it and now if anyone who talks about trading to make money in games are labeled CRYPTO BROS because some dumbass labeled it as a crypto thing. JUST GOD HOW ARE PEOPLE EATING THIS CRAP UP?!
It sucks even more because it’s honest fun. Most don’t do trading in game for money but being able to label your account so just makes you feel gratified. Trading in game items(not shitty nft’s or whatever you want to cal block chain crap) is great if done right and the shit hole block chain is making for young teens trying to start buying and selling is BS.
The amount of times where play to earn ads show up is a constant reminder of why ad blocker exists. Ad settings are completely useless and requests to opt out and even have your ad data deleted only encourages these ads to appear more (even with ad personalization turned off). Even when I do get a response, they only give a generic, yet evasive answer that only makes them sound like they care. Basically, they say "no" while pretending to say "yes". Some ads even force open the play store, which has the potential to spread malware considering that it has to open your web browser first. This is a major scam issue in soo many levels. What's stopping someone from creating an ad with the sole purpose of spreading ransomware?
I believe these absolutely are scams. That being said, if someone is dumb enough to spend 5k on a cosmetic, that's on them and I don't feel bad in the slightest.
The problem with that empty 3D version of the world they were flying around in, is it doesn't exist. The "players" can't even do that. It was just their devs flying around in Unity.
@@gamrknight8060 funny thing is that a developer named "Callum Upton" that kept showing how much of a scam earth 2 is, got challenged by the earth 2 creator to "Remake what we have shown within 7 days and we will give you 10000$" and after he easily did the challenge the earth 2 creator changed the meaning of his own vague rules in order to not pay Callum
What's sad is there's a genuinely interesting game concept there if you take the monetary BS out of it? Maybe like a PokemonGo esque thing with an RTS/TBS flair where you build up a base and try to take and develop land around you. Make a sort of 'World at war' or 'Civilization' over the backdrop of our world? Make the monetization selling new architecture and unit skins. There's *something* there if you take out the cancerous play to earn and crypto BS.
this is kinda what minecraft earth tried to be but everyone forgot abiout that instantly. Did it even come out? The idea was you could build stuff in your neighborhood and then if someone with their phone came across your neighborhood they could see your creation.
Remember as a kid whenever a new GTA game was being hyped and the rumour was always: "The next GTA world will be the whole actual world" this reminded me of that.
One of my good friends tried to get me to play this play to earn game called big time and "the devs have a really good idea and it's still in development so we can get in early" huge red flags..so I checked out a trailer and the game was so pointless and the devs sounded like 16 year olds. It's sad because he bought 2 passes for like 600$ and now they're essentially worthless, all these nft play to earn games are nothing but scams preying one people hoping to hit the next big thing when it's just not gonna happen lol
Never forget that the head dev on Earth 2 once challenged a single dev (Callum Upton, who was critical of Earth 2) to recreate part of their game, and when he succeeded in doing so, the Earth 2 chucklehead moved the goalposts just so he could save face and not pay out 10K.
Callum legit lost that challenge. He didn't recreate Earth, he just made a random planet. I know Callum, have spoken to him, and he has been in and around the Earth 2 community for a hot minute.
@@FrazierDanger Read the rules laid out in the challenge. Not a single part of it states that the planet has to be earth. The only thing close to that is that it must use heightmap data which it does
@@FrazierDanger thing is the rules have never stated that it needed to be earth They only said that after the challenge was over and callum had already made the planet
Basically this. Either the people making "play to earn" now know about things like SL and choose to ignore it, or they are so ignorant they haven't done their research to know things like SL even exist. Both are equally bad in the eyes of the end user/consumer.
Yup second life predates 90% of metaverses and is in my opinion still the best. Community has died out alot from the 2000s but it's still there. Not even vr chat can touch its creativity.
my thoughts exactly watching this. buying land in SL is expensive, but you can actually DO things with it. you can make a club, a mall, a museum, all sorts of things. Even become a virtual landlord (ugh). But there's certainly ways to also make some money on that content since you can turn lindens into real currency. Not to mention how LL controls the economy so while there are fluctuations, they're not huge with the bust/boom we see in actual economies. Even then, if you don't own land, you can still work for places as a host or dj or other things, or create things, and still earn money for your labor.
The thing about Earth 2 is that all the "new and exciting" future updates are all just ways to get players to give them more money. They're announcing new tiers of systems they don't even have available for "players" to interact with yet. Despite the claims of being a game that accurately replicates Earth (it won't), even the gameplay that it will have is just a series of hoops to jump through in order to cash out. You're not earning a single cent from those resources until you've done those steps- and then you have to hope that other players will want to buy it for some reason. And they seem more focused on keeping players from bailing, than actually developing any kind of game.
@@freedustin Yeah it's so easy idk why these people are having a hard time I think they have 1 IQ. Just become an oil daddy's sperm and there you go, jeez.
Remember when the guys that wanted to add crypto to minecraft basically wanted to add the ability to sell worlds that you generate. You know, the world seed. The thing you can just give people. To as many people as you want. The idea that adding digital scarcity and monitization to gaming somehow adds quality of life to gamers is the stupidest shit ever.
I hate those ads that say something along the lines of "stop gaming! in 2022, it doesn't make sense to game without getting something back" or some absurd stuff like that.
Always laugh at cryptobros and NFT shills, it is morally acceptable. I'm so glad I never gotten into the metaverse nonsense, I rather live some where tangible and not soulless
Even if we're trying to avoid it, the cryptobros will always mocking us like 'you're just too stupid to understand the blockchain!' or 'you will missed the chance and we're so early!'. Those losers...
@@CrystalWings12 cryptobros mocking us is the equivalent of saying "oh I've shitted my pants and you didn't so who's the winner here?" Like seriously I never taken any cryptobro seriously bc they always have the intention to scam, I'd rather be poor and broke than accept a crypto scam. Even then you're literally losing money. I just find it funny, and some go with the humiliation like if it's a fetish for them or something.
@@TarosTheVoid Involving yourself in a crypto thingy is like you're doing gambling. You never knew whether it could bring you to your fortune or leading you to bankruptcy. I mean, just look at those cryptobros' reaction on Luna's (one of the crypto currency) fall.
I would love one of these games if they weren't, well, scams. Earth 2 launching as a real game with a playable first come first serve landgrab would be crazy. People would be coming up with plans to beeline straight to a plot of interest and coordinate with other players to secure game resources. Instead we get snakeoil
you summed it up correctly with one word "belief". just like ANY economy, including real life money economies, it's all 100% BELIEF. We believe that little piece of paper is worth what's written on it. We believe a company will do well, so we put those little pieces of paper into it. The same applies here. And just like with real economies, as soon as we stop believing it's worth anything, it comes crashing down.
paper money is backed by international banks and exchanges. When you invest in apple you have a track record of apple delivering products and you invest in where you see their trajectory. Both the examples have real world interactions and products. Belief doesn’t come into terms for an apple. Any comparison to crypto or NFTs to markets that offer physical goods is just incorrect.
I'm always late to the party when it comes to these things. I don't get it and by the time I go into the metaverse there will be a meta-metaverse. I think I should just stick to my favorite toy the stick and hoop.
fun fact, in all of these metaverse buy land ToS it alwase state that you do not own the land itself, you buy a license that let you use that land, but they have the right to take it away from you, even going so far as to be able to delete your account without reason, without consent
Josh 'Strife' Heyes did a good video about Earth2 and the ways how the company behind did their homework and they dont even need to run away with money!
I have never commented on a video ever but.... You really proved you know what you are talking about on this one mudah, like seriously, from point to point to point. litterally one of those times where people prove, they are in the position they are because they are the subject matter expert. Really good video bro keep it up.
All storage drives take up physical space and things stored on those drives are either written onto hard drives or stored as a string of electrons in certain configurations. That means your virtual land occupies physical space however that physical space is tiny so I think that it should be worth its size- very little
3:20 Hey Muta, be careful because I think someone hacked into your channel, watch out, they guy who hacked you sounds a lot like Ursula from The Little Mermaid, ironically enough
Yeah, it's all very funny until the day when every new game release uses the same scammy, scummy, money-grubbing techniques that only a few bad apples do now. I mean, look at the Diablo: Immortal PTW fiasco. I think we're going to see more and more of these and blockchain/NFT/play-to-earn "games" coming out in years to come, until it makes us all want to throw our computers in a dumpster, Ron Swanson-style.
You mentioned NFTs, but last I checked, Earth-2's implementation of NFTs is not even blockchain-based. Just an ordinary database with blockchain talking points behind it. I'm not sure if that's better or worse.
The thing that makes me furious off the top of my head would have to be when people DONT PUT THEIR SHOPPING CARTS BACK!!! I can literally rant for an hour about how mad it makes me to see someone leave their cart somewhere in the way just because they're too lazy to put it up.
Woah! Pretty awesome you're covering Evaverse! Even if it is negative, that's cool, I understand the concerns. Here's my take as a player in Evaverse. No game has figured out a successful real money economy in the history of gaming. So why the hate for gaming studios trying? I guess because there's a lot of scams out there. OK true. You create RUclips videos for a living. There's a lot of scam videos out there, so should no one be able to make videos for a living? Why can't people play video games for a living? Only through RUclips, Twitch or other streaming platforms is acceptable for you? It would be awesome if Evaverse can be the 1st to build a sustainable economy, that is the goal. This game is not a pump and dump from my perspective. Of course I could be wrong. Do a little research into the gaming studio Battlebound and the developers behind it. They come from popular games and are all doxed. NFT's create barrier to entry same as the $60 price tag on traditional games that create barrier to entry. You have a problem with the high cost of items. $60 barrier is cool, $5k is not. Don't buy them, you can play for free. High price cosmetic in game items people are willing to buy. People have a ton of money in crypto, that's one of the reasons along with demand for why things are expensive. And yes the expectation that it will be worth more in the future. There's a boat load of money floating around on the internet. The market is setting the price. I see a lot of channels white knighting for the players about high cost NFT items. While also being multi millionaires like yourself from the internet. Muta doesn't have a problem with affiliate marketing. Use promo code SOG at gfuel plastered all over. Does gfuel make money from selling their products? It's ok for me to buy an extremely unhealthy energy drink that costs $0.30 to make for $20, but you draw the line at NFT's. Yes, some of the NFT's are expensive, but The NFT's are products as well. It's all a market, there's risk in everything. Spend your money on what you choose. You pose the questions: What do these items do that you couldn't have already done in game before? What actual value does any of this crap provide? They are simply in game items just like traditional in game items. The difference with NFT's are the players can personally hold them and trade them outside of the game. They are provably limited to a certain amount and you can see who has what and the history of the items. You can know that a certain item is truly rare and flex in game with it. There's really not much to it, people spend money on video game items, a lot of money!
Muta I know you literally just dropped the video, but I gotta say I appreciate your content more than you realize. Much love brother. (Edit): I’ve made more money off survey taking websites than I have off stuff like this
I've got this idea for a game called China 2. It's where you take massive loans from virtual banks that have no money to buy houses that don't exist on virtual land that no one actually owns.
Damn! Sick Muta sounds pretty HOT i gotta say. I sound like a dying grandpa when i´m sick, this man sounds like a Dirty Harry type character. That being said, i am strongly AGAINST calling this crap "Meta"-verses, because META actually means that something is of a higher order. That is evidently not true since those universes only exist because our physical universe exists, which means that the word IntraVerse would be ultimately the only correct description.
Play to earn was a flawed concept from the beginning. You play to have fun, you work to earn. I personally believe in blockchain technology, and I believe NFTs will find their use cases, in technology, and gaming alike - but not in this form that USA VCs are trying to shove down our throats.
Ah yes, digital scarcity. The biggest scam of our generation and some people really are defending it. I can't afford buying a house yet alone buying a infinitely spawning pool on a BlOCkChAiN.
What I will thoroughly enjoy is when they companies go out of business or decided to take their money and run, then they will essentially just own $3,000 receipts.
It's organized crime. That's all that it is. Someone looked at the dude who sold bricks disguised as DVD players, in the boxes and even the cellophane wrap and everything, to unsuspecting tourists in Times Sqr, and thought to themselves, "How do I format this under a customer driven enterprise?"
I love the part of the article bragging about people getting paid $500 a month to work 4 hours a day, because they (correctly) assume anyone seriously interested in this kind of thing won’t have the basic concept of understanding basic things like math to figure out how insanely little pay that is… that’s like $4 an hour…
an old fb game i used to play (monster galaxy, awesome theme, awesome concept, kinda like pokemon) basically daily pre 2016ish and the servers were up for a tiny bit more after that, got bought by this shitty nft company and the same "mogas" (captured creatures) got turned into P2E :(( obviously not gonna give it attention since it's the worst type of game now lol
every time I see a story about Earth 2, I think about that part at the end of Dan Olson's "Line Goes Up" video where the twitch streamer says "we have bought arctic laaaaaand"
Funny you mention SoCal land being better value than Nebraska- with Lake Mead and the Colorado River drying up the west coast is in deep troubles for farmers and infrastructure. Lot of the northern Midwest land is gonna be valuable for farmers who need to move
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I think we just need to create Grass 2. This way everyone can buy virtual grass and touch it on your virtual land
I'm going to create virtual 2 which is just real life
@@stellviahohenheim I’ll make an afterlife metaverse, it euthanizes you and sends you to an afterlife, there’s not many testimonies or first hand reviews, but that’s just a small setback for moving to the next dimension, there’s no proof it works, but it’s worth a try. You wouldn’t wanna risk FOMO now would you?
Yeep. Lets be honest we need this seeing how dumbfounded ppl are getting Each day.
Someone actually made that i think
Call it Grass 2.0 to make it more attractive sounding.
When I was a child, I envisioned VR/gaming/simulation as an opportunity to explore new, complex, exotic, and impossible environments. I foresaw it as a chance for doctors to swim around people's bloodstream or airways to see what's wrong, or for the disabled to experience life as we live it, or for robot operators to be able to maneuver drones in safety. Never in a million years did I imagine that they'd transfer the eternal grift of the real estate bubble to the virtual world. Jesus cyberdecking Christ what is this timeline...
TBF the good people in places like VR Chat are doing that for us. You know, people that care about using VR to its fullest potential.
@Kavetion Ain't true if you have to say it
@@connorm955 report and move on, dont reply to bots
It's one of those things that has cool or at least fun applications, yet is being overshadowed by scummy entities. Instead of innovating and making it better, they've muscled their way in, taking claim of all the associated language and then try to sell you the bare minimum of effort. And with the rise of more "legit" but controlling companies like Amazon and Meta, even the less scammy ones will be tainted by trying to have control of your life through it. (Can you imagine having to go to work with your VR headset all the time? That you have to buy from them? When a webcam or even just email would have sufficed?)
Being associated with things like crypto scams and shallow, buzzword filled marketing pushes means that eventually, even trying to develop something for it is going to have to overcome the hurdle of people's reaction being "ugh another one of those things?"
The last few years they've basically grabbed concepts that have been slowly growing for decades and are trying to speedrun them into the ground.
a dead one. even worse, it has deviated from what it was supposed to be, for the worse direction
I was not expecting Muta’s Seth Rogan impression 3 minutes into the video. Thanks for the video.
Muta is just an Indian Seth Rogan lmao
@@Jordan-ok4yb Nah, he's too good of a person to be a Seth Rogan counterpart
sounded more like Alex Jones to me XD
@@Devin7Eleven Please don't tell me Seth is like the other famous Rogan dude.
@@Devin7Eleven I'm ignorant of most things, so he just seems like a goofy chubby stoner fella from my neck of the woods. One of the few movie people I enjoy who I haven't learned to be garbage humans.
“Ladies and gentlemen … virtual land is, and always will be - for the most part - a fucking scam”
This is why I watch Muta
also Muta at the beginning of the video: "Nothing in here I'm going to outright say is a scam"
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@Kavetion no you're not
@@mineboom7377 Fact.
Buying a house in FF XIV
Metaverse moment. Remember, you can always screenshot NFTs. It's always morally correct.
fuck spam bots
@YeaMan when you spell right
@@bigtitmaster Its on purpose so bots have a harder time recognizing it as spam
It's an obligation!
The good thing to do
Still surprising to see how many companies are trying and failing to chase the success CS:GO has. Skins and knives that sell for thousands or in some cases tens of thousands of dollars, and yet they remain relatively stable for close to a decade now. They show that a digital cosmetic can still provide utility and hold value beyond pyramid scheme reselling.
Not just CSGO but TF2 too
artificial scarcity is no better than pyramid scheme. both are dishonest AF.
CSGO skins and TF2 items have a different purpose than just being an investment, people also use them because they look cool in-game.
its weird how when its centralized it seems to be stable
Reason is, CSGO can be an amazing game if you like it, same with TF2, i used to play hours every day, used to bet on matches and everything was fun
Companies are trying to sell you the lootboxes without the good game, proof they don't understand anything about the customer
Dude you don't get it. With NFTs you will be able to [thing that existed since early MMOs], [Second life 2 electric Boogaloo], [VRchat but made so corporate safe to the point of being as bland as porridge], and [thing that could never work unless you turn every game into an extremely unified framework of stats and models].
Man you so get it. NFTs are definitely the future. Respect.
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Guys I love nfts
With the way you typed it out, it looks like something spamton would say in deltarune, especially since it's a scam
Actually! It’s honestly surprising how dumb people are when it comes to gaming. It’s what MMO’s been doing since the existence of that genre! RL, Trove, CSGO, WoW- the list goes on for ages about how traders have made money with in game items.
It’s nothing new, it’s nothing special and I don’t condone it unless you know how to do it and now if anyone who talks about trading to make money in games are labeled CRYPTO BROS because some dumbass labeled it as a crypto thing. JUST GOD HOW ARE PEOPLE EATING THIS CRAP UP?!
I want to play a “dystopian future” game where your character lives in a crackhouse / slum hellscape, but your character escapes reality by putting on VR glasses to live in the Metaverse.
Now that’s “meta”.
Not to mention that we could already be in a simulation right now..."meta meta".
so basically ready player one
That's a part of ready player one my guy
deadass described the current world
@@arthe9555 but that is a novel/movie franchise
3:25
Muta sounds like he took the “snort g fuel” meme seriously and now lives with crippling lung disease
His ball dropped
He just had the flu - look up his comment at the top of the comment section. I knew how he felt because I just recovered from "Moronic Rona" and my voice was rough for a while.
Solid snake just came out of nowhere
Well now we know what happened
Im surprised Muta didnt mention that P2E is almost always Pay To Win to incentivize users to actually pay more to play
underrated comment
Playing to earn is nothing but a dream, sounds great on paper but the reality of the outcome is far darker than any kind of positive that can come out of this.
Honestly I kind of sad that play to earn is fucked by these people...
I mean, if they made a game wherein profit made by your playing was split between you and the company, that would be great but that actually being viable is literally a fantasy. I mean its hard enough for content creators to get paid fairly for getting eyes on ads [which wouldnt watch without them creating said content]
Honestly, the only way i could see it actually working would be because the game came with a bitcoin miner
To me, it doesn't even sound great on paper. I can't imagine wanting every aspect of my life dedicated to making money. Somethings should be just for fun.
@Kavetion who asked
It doesn't even sound great on paper if we're being real here.
Everytime I hear "Play to Earn" on something, the FIRST thing I think of is: "Play so we can steal your data and sell it to fraudulent individuals or ad companies!"
Play to Earn, More like, "Play to become Broke if the market ever crashes."
Edit: That actually happened to the Philippines.
Play to earn. Because why not monitize the one thing that brings you joy in life and make it part of the hopeless grind too.
Me earning 45 cents from google surveys knowing full well they are just selling my info
Most publishers do that anyway.
play to earn your data back
Anytime i heard "play to earn" i think about the bot farms for RMT. There's more money to make boosting people on MMOs than in all of these blockchain game.
It's really annoying to see those cryptobros kept saying stuff like 'why don't these games has play to earn mechanic in it?' or 'they will missed the opportunity of a lifetime if they don't applying blockchain on their games'.
It's like they knew everything about video game industry, yet all they want to do is to suck all the money from everyone's pocket through their Ponzi's pyramid.
Also what's up with the two bots above me.
Exactly! It’s honestly surprising how dumb people are when it comes to gaming. It’s what MMO’s been doing since the existence of that genre! RL, Trove, CSGO, WoW- the list goes on for ages about how traders have made money with in game items.
It’s nothing new, it’s nothing special and I don’t condone it unless you know how to do it and now if anyone who talks about trading to make money in games are labeled CRYPTO BROS because some dumbass labeled it as a crypto thing. JUST GOD HOW ARE PEOPLE EATING THIS CRAP UP?!
It sucks even more because it’s honest fun. Most don’t do trading in game for money but being able to label your account so just makes you feel gratified. Trading in game items(not shitty nft’s or whatever you want to cal block chain crap) is great if done right and the shit hole block chain is making for young teens trying to start buying and selling is BS.
@@CrystalWings12 there’s only one now.
@@Sebastianator01 I think the other one got deleted.
I still can't believe companies managed to make something worse than loot boxes.
give it another 10 years and they'll make something worse than virtual asset-flipping "games"
Don’t forget the concept of charging a dollar to reload a gun was a thing too, and based on that, I’m not surprised anymore.
The amount of times where play to earn ads show up is a constant reminder of why ad blocker exists. Ad settings are completely useless and requests to opt out and even have your ad data deleted only encourages these ads to appear more (even with ad personalization turned off). Even when I do get a response, they only give a generic, yet evasive answer that only makes them sound like they care. Basically, they say "no" while pretending to say "yes". Some ads even force open the play store, which has the potential to spread malware considering that it has to open your web browser first. This is a major scam issue in soo many levels. What's stopping someone from creating an ad with the sole purpose of spreading ransomware?
I believe these absolutely are scams. That being said, if someone is dumb enough to spend 5k on a cosmetic, that's on them and I don't feel bad in the slightest.
video isn't about cosmetics buddy
An item without utility is purely cosmetic. The land in a game without content is only a name and an icon; cosmetic by the very definition.
@@taahasiddiqui1071 and?? He’s still talking about idiots who dump their money on worthless crap
I mean in csgo someone spend 300k on a cosmetic knife and was then offered 1.2 million soooooo
@@yunggopnikdaballr touché, goddamn that's a lot of money for a fake knife lol
Games with NFTs as an currency is just a dumb idea. It’s sad how many people fall for these scams
Busdriver always said, "If you want to piss of your parents, buy real-estate in an imaginary place."
If that person accepts the $45 bid, it realistically might be the most money ever made on Earth 2
The poor sucker is probably waiting for that thousand dollar bid, $45 is already a big profit
3:22 damn Muta, I didn't know you hired Santa as a voice actor! Awesome!
@ahhhcool what is wrong with you
@@naga_serpentis just some bot trying to gain attention into their videos. Simply report both their comment and channel and let RUclips do the rest.
@@naga_serpentis i reported it,
It almost sounds like a voice he'd do when reading trollpastas
@@limesodagod thank you for doing your part to remove parasites from the internet.
The problem with that empty 3D version of the world they were flying around in, is it doesn't exist. The "players" can't even do that. It was just their devs flying around in Unity.
I could make that in five minutes on Hammer editor I swear
@@gamrknight8060 funny thing is that a developer named "Callum Upton" that kept showing how much of a scam earth 2 is, got challenged by the earth 2 creator to "Remake what we have shown within 7 days and we will give you 10000$" and after he easily did the challenge the earth 2 creator changed the meaning of his own vague rules in order to not pay Callum
Yeah look up callun uptons video, he did exactly this. He got called out by the cult leader himself
I’d rather buy land in the middle of “nowhere” than buy virtual land
People are buying virtual land buying?
What's sad is there's a genuinely interesting game concept there if you take the monetary BS out of it? Maybe like a PokemonGo esque thing with an RTS/TBS flair where you build up a base and try to take and develop land around you. Make a sort of 'World at war' or 'Civilization' over the backdrop of our world? Make the monetization selling new architecture and unit skins.
There's *something* there if you take out the cancerous play to earn and crypto BS.
Kinda like " Rust " currently, but with no timer?
this is kinda what minecraft earth tried to be but everyone forgot abiout that instantly. Did it even come out? The idea was you could build stuff in your neighborhood and then if someone with their phone came across your neighborhood they could see your creation.
Remember as a kid whenever a new GTA game was being hyped and the rumour was always: "The next GTA world will be the whole actual world" this reminded me of that.
sounds like yr describing rust lol
@@alexoxo1 yeahh, plus ar glass will probably placing our phone in future so this might still quite interesting concept
3:24 Who tf is that?! Alternate dimension 30yr Smoker Muta? Muta's got more varients than a marvel hero.
Hes sick
One of my good friends tried to get me to play this play to earn game called big time and "the devs have a really good idea and it's still in development so we can get in early" huge red flags..so I checked out a trailer and the game was so pointless and the devs sounded like 16 year olds. It's sad because he bought 2 passes for like 600$ and now they're essentially worthless, all these nft play to earn games are nothing but scams preying one people hoping to hit the next big thing when it's just not gonna happen lol
Never forget that the head dev on Earth 2 once challenged a single dev (Callum Upton, who was critical of Earth 2) to recreate part of their game, and when he succeeded in doing so, the Earth 2 chucklehead moved the goalposts just so he could save face and not pay out 10K.
and the trailers they ever have shown are just Unity
Callum legit lost that challenge. He didn't recreate Earth, he just made a random planet. I know Callum, have spoken to him, and he has been in and around the Earth 2 community for a hot minute.
Haha, He succeeded at nothing, besides twisting words to make it look like he did.
@@FrazierDanger Read the rules laid out in the challenge. Not a single part of it states that the planet has to be earth. The only thing close to that is that it must use heightmap data which it does
@@FrazierDanger thing is the rules have never stated that it needed to be earth
They only said that after the challenge was over and callum had already made the planet
Second Life did everything these games are trying to do long ago, and not only does SL do it better, they're still going strong to this day.
Basically this. Either the people making "play to earn" now know about things like SL and choose to ignore it, or they are so ignorant they haven't done their research to know things like SL even exist. Both are equally bad in the eyes of the end user/consumer.
Yup second life predates 90% of metaverses and is in my opinion still the best. Community has died out alot from the 2000s but it's still there. Not even vr chat can touch its creativity.
my thoughts exactly watching this. buying land in SL is expensive, but you can actually DO things with it. you can make a club, a mall, a museum, all sorts of things. Even become a virtual landlord (ugh). But there's certainly ways to also make some money on that content since you can turn lindens into real currency. Not to mention how LL controls the economy so while there are fluctuations, they're not huge with the bust/boom we see in actual economies. Even then, if you don't own land, you can still work for places as a host or dj or other things, or create things, and still earn money for your labor.
The thing about Earth 2 is that all the "new and exciting" future updates are all just ways to get players to give them more money. They're announcing new tiers of systems they don't even have available for "players" to interact with yet. Despite the claims of being a game that accurately replicates Earth (it won't), even the gameplay that it will have is just a series of hoops to jump through in order to cash out. You're not earning a single cent from those resources until you've done those steps- and then you have to hope that other players will want to buy it for some reason.
And they seem more focused on keeping players from bailing, than actually developing any kind of game.
This all boils down to people thinking there's an easy way to get rich.
That mindset turns you into a sucker and easily exploited
But there is. Just be born rich, couldn't be easier.
@@freedustin Yeah it's so easy idk why these people are having a hard time I think they have 1 IQ. Just become an oil daddy's sperm and there you go, jeez.
Take a shot every time Mutahar says “of course”.
Your liver would be a shriveled raisin by the end
I love that you casually started calling them "multiversus" halfway through
Damn, Muta aged like 25 years in the span of 3 minutes at 3:30
Remember when the guys that wanted to add crypto to minecraft basically wanted to add the ability to sell worlds that you generate.
You know, the world seed. The thing you can just give people. To as many people as you want.
The idea that adding digital scarcity and monitization to gaming somehow adds quality of life to gamers is the stupidest shit ever.
and if that ever happened the seed of the most expensive ones would be cracked in a few hours
@@RedMarbles_ hours is generous. those people have gotten REALLY good at seed cracking and finding. really happy minecraft said no to the bullshit.
@@the1onesquirrel9 yep they can just crack a 1000 seeds with good photos in an hour
@@RedMarbles_ some youtube guys literally found the seed for a painting
3:23 I did not expect that change. It sounds like muda wants to hurt me
He sounded very spooky and demonic
I hate those ads that say something along the lines of "stop gaming! in 2022, it doesn't make sense to game without getting something back" or some absurd stuff like that.
3:22 I didn't know you hired Batman to be in the video.
At around 12:45 You were describing how Amazon already works with small vendors. EXACTLY
Kira really goes all in on the E2 debunk. 😂
nft this, nft that, nft these muthafookin nuts
Always laugh at cryptobros and NFT shills, it is morally acceptable. I'm so glad I never gotten into the metaverse nonsense, I rather live some where tangible and not soulless
@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE ay yoo fuck off bot
Even if we're trying to avoid it, the cryptobros will always mocking us like 'you're just too stupid to understand the blockchain!' or 'you will missed the chance and we're so early!'.
Those losers...
@@CrystalWings12 cryptobros mocking us is the equivalent of saying "oh I've shitted my pants and you didn't so who's the winner here?" Like seriously I never taken any cryptobro seriously bc they always have the intention to scam, I'd rather be poor and broke than accept a crypto scam. Even then you're literally losing money.
I just find it funny, and some go with the humiliation like if it's a fetish for them or something.
@@TarosTheVoid Involving yourself in a crypto thingy is like you're doing gambling. You never knew whether it could bring you to your fortune or leading you to bankruptcy. I mean, just look at those cryptobros' reaction on Luna's (one of the crypto currency) fall.
We really need someone selling virtual IQ points
When NFT's first came out, it reminded me of this...
Sick Flu Muta is such a vibe. I wasn't expecting that voice, but I kinda dig it haha
What
@@shogunpug4071 see Muta's recent video about spam bots in the comments
Well that comparison was hilarious, as someone from SoCal now living in Nebraska; Sun and Surf, to Corn and Cattle
I can't wait for the Metaverse to get Gacha games like Genshin Impact on board so it's a double whopper of the biggest industry scams
I think "4x" war games are even worse on mobile. Gacha commander mechanics plus permanent troop loss and Perma pvp 24/7 😂
As someone who was born in and has lived their whole life in Nebraska- I can say I am proud my state was mentioned by one of my favorite youtubers.
Love the long videos
that voice switch up caught me off-guard LOL
I would love one of these games if they weren't, well, scams. Earth 2 launching as a real game with a playable first come first serve landgrab would be crazy. People would be coming up with plans to beeline straight to a plot of interest and coordinate with other players to secure game resources.
Instead we get snakeoil
you summed it up correctly with one word "belief".
just like ANY economy, including real life money economies, it's all 100% BELIEF. We believe that little piece of paper is worth what's written on it. We believe a company will do well, so we put those little pieces of paper into it. The same applies here. And just like with real economies, as soon as we stop believing it's worth anything, it comes crashing down.
paper money is backed by international banks and exchanges. When you invest in apple you have a track record of apple delivering products and you invest in where you see their trajectory.
Both the examples have real world interactions and products. Belief doesn’t come into terms for an apple.
Any comparison to crypto or NFTs to markets that offer physical goods is just incorrect.
“Deep voice muta isn’t real he can’t hurt you”
Deep voice muta: 3:22
22:27 You perfectly summarized it there!
I'm always late to the party when it comes to these things. I don't get it and by the time I go into the metaverse there will be a meta-metaverse. I think I should just stick to my favorite toy the stick and hoop.
Me: Smoker’s cough Muta does not exist
Smoker’s cough Muta: 3:30
25 minutes of quality content just when I needed it
fun fact, in all of these metaverse buy land ToS it alwase state that you do not own the land itself, you buy a license that let you use that land, but they have the right to take it away from you, even going so far as to be able to delete your account without reason, without consent
Josh 'Strife' Heyes did a good video about Earth2 and the ways how the company behind did their homework and they dont even need to run away with money!
Heya from the west coast of Canada! Keep spittin facts bro, keep up the good work!
A bigger scam is the Gran Turismo 7 economy
It's a shame too. Because it's a beautiful game but the economy setup is trash.
I have never commented on a video ever but....
You really proved you know what you are talking about on this one mudah, like seriously, from point to point to point. litterally one of those times where people prove, they are in the position they are because they are the subject matter expert. Really good video bro keep it up.
Wait it’s not roblox this time?
Lmao swear to god I be seeing so many fake Roblox videos with muta in em
It’s hilarious too cuz they always use the same clip regardless of what’s happening in game😂
All storage drives take up physical space and things stored on those drives are either written onto hard drives or stored as a string of electrons in certain configurations. That means your virtual land occupies physical space however that physical space is tiny so I think that it should be worth its size- very little
3:20 Hey Muta, be careful because I think someone hacked into your channel, watch out, they guy who hacked you sounds a lot like Ursula from The Little Mermaid, ironically enough
2:26 As a Nebraskan, I can confirm, land is worthless if you don't use it for corn or cattle
Someone get this man on Josh Strife Hayes' livestreams
21:37, aye tho fr, hope Muta gets some sleep in cuz he sounds TIRED AF and looks more tired than usual too
blackchain gaming... not gonna lie. I love watching all these stupid scams play out. it's very cathartic.
Yeah, it's all very funny until the day when every new game release uses the same scammy, scummy, money-grubbing techniques that only a few bad apples do now. I mean, look at the Diablo: Immortal PTW fiasco. I think we're going to see more and more of these and blockchain/NFT/play-to-earn "games" coming out in years to come, until it makes us all want to throw our computers in a dumpster, Ron Swanson-style.
When you mentioned renting out teams it reminded me of rev protection clans
Finally, was waiting for something to watch. Thank you Muta!
I saw something like this named "revv racing" where you need to buy an nft car to play
Ah yes NFTs that have zero value and can easily be screenshoted
3:20 That whiplash got me good.
You mentioned NFTs, but last I checked, Earth-2's implementation of NFTs is not even blockchain-based. Just an ordinary database with blockchain talking points behind it. I'm not sure if that's better or worse.
worse, somehow
As a lifelong resident of that state, Nebraska deserves every bit of scorn that you're able to heap upon it (and more).
Muta: we're gonna talk about THE BIGGEST scam in gaming
Me: do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
The thing that makes me furious off the top of my head would have to be when people DONT PUT THEIR SHOPPING CARTS BACK!!! I can literally rant for an hour about how mad it makes me to see someone leave their cart somewhere in the way just because they're too lazy to put it up.
Woah! Pretty awesome you're covering Evaverse! Even if it is negative, that's cool, I understand the concerns. Here's my take as a player in Evaverse.
No game has figured out a successful real money economy in the history of gaming. So why the hate for gaming studios trying? I guess because there's a lot of scams out there. OK true.
You create RUclips videos for a living. There's a lot of scam videos out there, so should no one be able to make videos for a living?
Why can't people play video games for a living? Only through RUclips, Twitch or other streaming platforms is acceptable for you?
It would be awesome if Evaverse can be the 1st to build a sustainable economy, that is the goal. This game is not a pump and dump from my perspective. Of course I could be wrong.
Do a little research into the gaming studio Battlebound and the developers behind it. They come from popular games and are all doxed.
NFT's create barrier to entry same as the $60 price tag on traditional games that create barrier to entry.
You have a problem with the high cost of items. $60 barrier is cool, $5k is not. Don't buy them, you can play for free. High price cosmetic in game items people are willing to buy.
People have a ton of money in crypto, that's one of the reasons along with demand for why things are expensive. And yes the expectation that it will be worth more in the future.
There's a boat load of money floating around on the internet. The market is setting the price.
I see a lot of channels white knighting for the players about high cost NFT items. While also being multi millionaires like yourself from the internet.
Muta doesn't have a problem with affiliate marketing. Use promo code SOG at gfuel plastered all over.
Does gfuel make money from selling their products? It's ok for me to buy an extremely unhealthy energy drink that costs $0.30 to make for $20, but you draw the line at NFT's.
Yes, some of the NFT's are expensive, but The NFT's are products as well. It's all a market, there's risk in everything. Spend your money on what you choose.
You pose the questions: What do these items do that you couldn't have already done in game before? What actual value does any of this crap provide?
They are simply in game items just like traditional in game items. The difference with NFT's are the players can personally hold them and trade them outside of the game.
They are provably limited to a certain amount and you can see who has what and the history of the items. You can know that a certain item is truly rare and flex in game with it.
There's really not much to it, people spend money on video game items, a lot of money!
3:20 sounds like a super villain
It’s fine that financialization + speculation merged with tech + info-marketing. No bad incentives here, folks!
Basically everyone wants to have their own Steam market, many games tried it after CS:GO success, but none managed to do it
Muta I know you literally just dropped the video, but I gotta say I appreciate your content more than you realize. Much love brother.
(Edit): I’ve made more money off survey taking websites than I have off stuff like this
That's barely any money but yeah it's still actual money... eventually.
@@elongatedcarrot3704 $70 is better than losing money 🤷🏽♂️
Muta voice suddenly became a heavy italian smoker for a whole minute.
How delusional do you have to be to buy digital land
💯
I've got this idea for a game called China 2. It's where you take massive loans from virtual banks that have no money to buy houses that don't exist on virtual land that no one actually owns.
🤯
Damn! Sick Muta sounds pretty HOT i gotta say.
I sound like a dying grandpa when i´m sick, this man sounds like a Dirty Harry type character.
That being said, i am strongly AGAINST calling this crap "Meta"-verses, because META actually means that something is of a higher order.
That is evidently not true since those universes only exist because our physical universe exists, which means that the word IntraVerse would be ultimately the only correct description.
Half of the ads in RUclips for no reason says oooh play to earn
It's start to become stupid
Play to earn was a flawed concept from the beginning. You play to have fun, you work to earn.
I personally believe in blockchain technology, and I believe NFTs will find their use cases, in technology, and gaming alike - but not in this form that USA VCs are trying to shove down our throats.
20:47 LOL that's the default/placeholder Unreal Engine player character that loads with every new project :D
Ah yes, digital scarcity. The biggest scam of our generation and some people really are defending it. I can't afford buying a house yet alone buying a infinitely spawning pool on a BlOCkChAiN.
What I will thoroughly enjoy is when they companies go out of business or decided to take their money and run, then they will essentially just own $3,000 receipts.
5:21 as a multi-millionaire investor, I have just purchased this plot of land. Mutahar, I know your balls are worth much more.
It's organized crime. That's all that it is. Someone looked at the dude who sold bricks disguised as DVD players, in the boxes and even the cellophane wrap and everything, to unsuspecting tourists in Times Sqr, and thought to themselves, "How do I format this under a customer driven enterprise?"
i hate that modern games are all scams and nobody realizes it
"That's an offense to mobile games." Hahaha, enjoyed the video!
"There's 2 types of land. Physical and virtual"
So there's only one type.
I love the part of the article bragging about people getting paid $500 a month to work 4 hours a day, because they (correctly) assume anyone seriously interested in this kind of thing won’t have the basic concept of understanding basic things like math to figure out how insanely little pay that is… that’s like $4 an hour…
an old fb game i used to play (monster galaxy, awesome theme, awesome concept, kinda like pokemon) basically daily pre 2016ish and the servers were up for a tiny bit more after that, got bought by this shitty nft company and the same "mogas" (captured creatures) got turned into P2E :(( obviously not gonna give it attention since it's the worst type of game now lol
every time I see a story about Earth 2, I think about that part at the end of Dan Olson's "Line Goes Up" video where the twitch streamer says "we have bought arctic laaaaaand"
The state of the gaming industry is a reminder that gamers need to touch grass to remind them to stop being simps.
Funny you mention SoCal land being better value than Nebraska- with Lake Mead and the Colorado River drying up the west coast is in deep troubles for farmers and infrastructure. Lot of the northern Midwest land is gonna be valuable for farmers who need to move