@@balazsfenyes3880 One mine won't kill one DT with full HP, since DTs are small units and take only 50% of explosive damage (shields take full damage, though).
Over a year old game, that makes sense. Cause Artosis figured out a unit called science vessel in the last year or so to detect invis and save on turret costs. If only his opponents played like he wants them to play...
"42% of all players are protoss" - wait, where did RT even get that info? I had no idea blizzard even made their telemetry publicly available. Does anyone have the link to his sources?
My theory is that he watched to many pro games where he sees pros use minimum amount of resources to solve a problem and he wants to be like that. Like you really only need one turret to stop the dt's at the ramp so thats what he wants to do. Meanwhile an average player would've overreacted, blown all that bank and immidietly put up 4 turrets around his base. But in the end that would've worked out better because it would've saved so many scv's. Its the see the same stuff when he get busted by lings, like he could make a bunker but flash could hold the lings of with marines and some marines and scv's so thats whats he is going to do. But he isn't flash so his marines just gets surrounded and dies and then he lose 5 times more then the price of a bunker.
@@Lappmogel I don't think so. It's not that pro players get more value from their units it's that they can accurately decide what they need and how they need it. The pros have better micro argument I feel is invalid because it's from both sides. Sure flash has better micro than arty, but jaedong has better micro than the opponent's arty faces. They are mainly technical errors from rt, poor decision making. For example, the other day I was watching his stream and he went for an attack against sunkens. Meanwhile he had an army the exact same size as the one he tried to attack with sitting in his own base. Any pro Terran would have waited for their reinforcements and had x2 as many units for the bust, needless to say he lost his army on that bust attempt. Other examples that happen every game; poor expanding, slow tech to science vessel or Valkyrie vs Mutas, not floating buildings for vision over ridges, etc.
@@Lappmogel rereading ur comment I guess we are on the same page. The Marines vs Ling's comment seemed like u were talking about micro but I get what ur saying. Flash would hold it off because he would be aware of the threat and build a wall off at his nat and have his units positioned safely. Arty would have his units out of position with no buildings to provide a choke point and get owned, root cause is poor decision making.
Ok imagine this scenario. You're have 2 factories, one with addon. You have mines, you almost have both scan and turret. You're getting pushed by goons and dt. What do you do? Do you do a) build a tank and make another addon so you can make another tank. Or do you do b) make more vultures so you can protect the turrets you have to build.
I found it super weird when vultures got popular, and I still find it weird that they are still popular 20 years later, and I still find it weird and ackward to watch vultures right and move across the battlefield. They still look ineffective to me because they are so clumsy and there shots have such piddly sounds effects.
Not sure I get the whine about the mines. If they were even better, what's stopping the Terran from with just a few clicks walling the toss in very quickly?
Here is what goes through my head as I walk DTs through mines into RT's base; "Hahahahahahaha, if this DT makes it, Artys gonna RAGE. HAHAHAHAHA hes raging in all chat, GOTTEM. I hope he stays in the game so I can toy with him in front of his stream, Im only B+ Protoss LOL. S rank Terrans lose to proxy DT strats??? LOL, he scouted it too??! LOL X2 S rank Terrans lose to B rank toss strategy??? LOL X3 The key is to laugh like Snow when sniping Artosis. If you laugh like Snow, itll work out in your favor.
didnt we just have an ASL where ine one of the rounds the protoss players did nothing but go DT and the other pro players where like surprize pikachu face lost?
I dont think zergs skill is far lower than the other races in sc2 xD they are just really strong and have extremely powerful "war" mechanics, ie, speed and vision.. that makes for easier decision making and engagements. But they are still hard to play, and its easy to see the difference between Rogue Dark and like.. Armani . let me be clear that i also understand that they also have lots of tech options and ways to win a game, and they have explosive economy if not handled properly. But its really the speed / vision that allows them to abuse the other tools. But yeah they have a pretty insane kit, but i dont think the imbalance is that bad.
I find it hilarious these guys are castors for the game and he hates the balance this much haha. yes terran is a harder race, but when you play it perfectly the game is balanced :P and thats why the terran players all get more praise and respect. I guarantee you none of the pro protoss would disagree w/ you, they probably agree and dont really care, they are the best at the easier race and they are still immensely skilled.
Well of course Protoss is more powerful, they have advanced technology. If they weren't OP there would be something wrong with the game. People who play Terran just like to play the victim and complain.
I like to think that this is how in-universe Terran reacts to fighting Protoss.
I mean in-universe Terran could just shot at where the dt is
@@T2000-f3j Not if DTs are supposed to move anything like the way Zealots move in the FMVs.
I love it when the invisible men show up and RT's turret doesn't make
lmao same ii know its the scv that was building it died or something so crazy
His turret didn't make like how StarCraft 3 didn't make.
Some say that that one marine is still attacking the third nexus to this day
Protoss attacking at the front base, what do we do?
Artosis: fuck this one probe at the top corner in particular.
Right clicking with vultures ! He is SO fucking talanted !
Btw mines 1hit DT-s without detection and 1 vulture can make 3 mines. Just a fun fact.
@@balazsfenyes3880 One mine won't kill one DT with full HP, since DTs are small units and take only 50% of explosive damage (shields take full damage, though).
@@balazsfenyes3880 nah I've had my DTs survive maybe depends how mine hits
Artosis is the pinnacle of entertainment, nothing comes close.
"I busted his base, and then failed to properly anticipate one of the most commonly used attacks in a 20 year old video game. He's so bad."
Mines work against dts without other detection.
@@135791max yes but if there's too much shit to soak mines,
@@135791max Which is why the Protoss player sent the Dragoons.
(Plus DTs can survive one mine)
Protoss gets so much shit for free
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75 mineral vultures get 3 free invisible mines
Bstreak's back alright! The best content has always been Artosis getting murked by B protoss players who play once every blue moon.
Artosis should make a wheel to spin. Spin a wheel to pick your next excuse
That's mean, man !
Wow, this protoss invented a new strategy -using invisible men !! Never done before.No wonder arty darty is pissed.
Good old 3 base vs 1 base
I love the resourse tab every time he looses and says how bad clown his opponent is, then comes the resourse tab and always 2x than him.
Artosis , just play as protoss.
You know he's secretly protoss-curious.
Over a year old game, that makes sense. Cause Artosis figured out a unit called science vessel in the last year or so to detect invis and save on turret costs. If only his opponents played like he wants them to play...
"42% of all players are protoss" - wait, where did RT even get that info? I had no idea blizzard even made their telemetry publicly available. Does anyone have the link to his sources?
Omg what the hell on earth is that behavior?Its a diagnose
Arty is actually so bad at decision making. Takes him 1 minute to start building that turret in his mineral line after he sees DTs forever.
My theory is that he watched to many pro games where he sees pros use minimum amount of resources to solve a problem and he wants to be like that. Like you really only need one turret to stop the dt's at the ramp so thats what he wants to do. Meanwhile an average player would've overreacted, blown all that bank and immidietly put up 4 turrets around his base. But in the end that would've worked out better because it would've saved so many scv's.
Its the see the same stuff when he get busted by lings, like he could make a bunker but flash could hold the lings of with marines and some marines and scv's so thats whats he is going to do. But he isn't flash so his marines just gets surrounded and dies and then he lose 5 times more then the price of a bunker.
@@Lappmogel I don't think so. It's not that pro players get more value from their units it's that they can accurately decide what they need and how they need it. The pros have better micro argument I feel is invalid because it's from both sides. Sure flash has better micro than arty, but jaedong has better micro than the opponent's arty faces. They are mainly technical errors from rt, poor decision making.
For example, the other day I was watching his stream and he went for an attack against sunkens. Meanwhile he had an army the exact same size as the one he tried to attack with sitting in his own base. Any pro Terran would have waited for their reinforcements and had x2 as many units for the bust, needless to say he lost his army on that bust attempt. Other examples that happen every game; poor expanding, slow tech to science vessel or Valkyrie vs Mutas, not floating buildings for vision over ridges, etc.
@@Lappmogel rereading ur comment I guess we are on the same page. The Marines vs Ling's comment seemed like u were talking about micro but I get what ur saying. Flash would hold it off because he would be aware of the threat and build a wall off at his nat and have his units positioned safely. Arty would have his units out of position with no buildings to provide a choke point and get owned, root cause is poor decision making.
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Ok imagine this scenario. You're have 2 factories, one with addon. You have mines, you almost have both scan and turret. You're getting pushed by goons and dt. What do you do? Do you do a) build a tank and make another addon so you can make another tank. Or do you do b) make more vultures so you can protect the turrets you have to build.
Hey hey hey lets not pretend that Artosis is actually an S rank Terran now that would be too difficult.
I give up dts for reavers with range of siege tanks
Any race other than Terran is OP in Arty's opinion... Actually, no Terran is also OP, just anyone who isn't Arty is unfairly OP. 😂😂😂
He's bonkers. Terran is op a f. Protoss sucks and that player was amazing fort wining like that.
Terrans only make vulture and tanks and wonder why they lose lol
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I found it super weird when vultures got popular, and I still find it weird that they are still popular 20 years later, and I still find it weird and ackward to watch vultures right and move across the battlefield. They still look ineffective to me because they are so clumsy and there shots have such piddly sounds effects.
Not sure I get the whine about the mines. If they were even better, what's stopping the Terran from with just a few clicks walling the toss in very quickly?
Here is what goes through my head as I walk DTs through mines into RT's base;
"Hahahahahahaha, if this DT makes it, Artys gonna RAGE. HAHAHAHAHA hes raging in all chat, GOTTEM. I hope he stays in the game so I can toy with him in front of his stream, Im only B+ Protoss LOL. S rank Terrans lose to proxy DT strats??? LOL, he scouted it too??! LOL X2 S rank Terrans lose to B rank toss strategy??? LOL X3
The key is to laugh like Snow when sniping Artosis. If you laugh like Snow, itll work out in your favor.
That was you?
Mini literally almost beat Light after light scouted the DT
I love it when it's not always fair when he loses the game 🤣
How can someone who puts so much time in something be so bad at it
It's like people who stay in an abusive relationship. After a while it becomes comfortable. He's in hell. But he can't leave.
Turrets and mines didn't make.
Oh. My. God. I’m about to kruuub. Person in steamy room.
How tf you got SIX workers just sitting there, not idle from building things, just never tasked to work?
fuack! THIS! lol
Artosis is so fucking greedy hahaha
didnt we just have an ASL where ine one of the rounds the protoss players did nothing but go DT and the other pro players where like surprize pikachu face lost?
Why does he play bw instead of sC2?
I'd like to see artosis switch to zerg and beat flash 😎
I wish Arty was this passionate about shitting on Zerg in Sc2
I dont think zergs skill is far lower than the other races in sc2 xD they are just really strong and have extremely powerful "war" mechanics, ie, speed and vision.. that makes for easier decision making and engagements.
But they are still hard to play, and its easy to see the difference between Rogue Dark and like.. Armani .
let me be clear that i also understand that they also have lots of tech options and ways to win a game, and they have explosive economy if not handled properly.
But its really the speed / vision that allows them to abuse the other tools.
But yeah they have a pretty insane kit, but i dont think the imbalance is that bad.
I find it hilarious these guys are castors for the game and he hates the balance this much haha.
yes terran is a harder race, but when you play it perfectly the game is balanced :P and thats why the terran players all get more praise and respect.
I guarantee you none of the pro protoss would disagree w/ you, they probably agree and dont really care, they are the best at the easier race and they are still immensely skilled.
Zerg is harder, much harder both in SC1 and SC2. Controlling zerglings in SC1 is a nightmare.
Well of course Protoss is more powerful, they have advanced technology. If they weren't OP there would be something wrong with the game. People who play Terran just like to play the victim and complain.
I used to think Artosis was a pro. Later on I found out he is a commentator and sucks at playing.
Protoss players are terrible!