I wanna pin this comment ahead of the premiere & address some stuff about GT7 that I didn't really find a way to work into the video. First: No, Gran Turismo 7 is not bad. I'm not saying it's a trash game or unplayable or whatever people on Twitter are calling it this week. I just am personally not enjoying the game all that much. The driving mechanics are solid, it's a very pretty game, and I am of course glad to see a mainline title releasing after so long.... but the issues I outline in the video make the experience feel very hollow to me, as someone who loved the singleplayer aspects of GT1-6. At the same time, the complete backseat Sport mode has taken is really disappointing to see after Polyphony carved out such an incredible foundation with Sport. It feels like they've overcorrected in response to the traditional, singleplayer crowd-- whose opinions are of course valid, but these two sides of the game could coexist much better than they currently do. I also find the handling model to be a bit shit, with ridiculous snap oversteer in even the slowest, weakest RWD vehicles. This is admittedly a mixture of playing on controller & being used to Sport's more forgiving throttle.... but this is, once again, too far in another direction. I've played iRacing on a controller with less frustration than I've experienced here. It feels as if the entire game was built around GT3 cars on racing tires & everything else just.... doesn't grip. I am glad I didn't end up seeing it as important enough to address compared to this video's main points, because literally the day I finalized the video & sent it off for sponsor review, the 1.13 patch adjusted the handling. It is *not* fixed, the RX-8 still snap oversteers as if it doesn't have the torque of a lawnmower, but correcting oversteer is now.... possible, instead of a fool's errand. Anyways, I'm excited to hear about how y'all are feeling about GT7. I know it's been a divisive game among fans-- though it seems nobody is without complaints here or there. edit: comments about driving line & assists are pretty rude, and usually wrong. I do not have brake assist on, as some have insinuated. I had TCS on ONE because of how bad the snap oversteer was. Note that this video came out the same day as the patch where they reduced RWD oversteer. Because it was bad. As for the driving line: I have ADHD & I dissociate/zone out really easily. The driving line stops me from ruining a ~10 minute race by accidentally driving off the track or missing a braking zone. if I know a track really well, I don't need it, but I also have trouble memorizing track layouts due to that same disability.
Hey man I would invite you try the game in those FR and MR platforms again since yesterday’s patch as they addressed this just yesterday and driving these cars now is all the pleasure you would expect. It’s night and day better
1.13 definitely made the Circuit Experiences a LOT easier for me (as well as a generally better driving experience overall). Even as someone who managed to earn gold on the NA version of R-6 on GT3, there are a select few sectors that felt impossible to gold on a controller. GT7 made me realize I no longer like Catalunya after spending well over an hour on sector 3, lol I've been getting away with flooring it out of certain corners that would've punished me for even giving 25% throttle in the past. It might not be as big a challenge as license tests of the past, but I'm no longer pulling my hair out over inconsistent driving mechanics
Is Ride 4 the final pure vehicle collector videogame then? I've been playing it for like 2 weeks now and it's pure as fuck - You can buy whatever whenever, you can hate some type of sportbike or circuit and still be fine... Here is some things I dislike about an otherwise great game: · The lack of European sportbikes between 1985 and 1999 (they skipped some GREAT Ducatis) plus the scarcity of Japanese ones (Suzuki has the most with THREE, Yamaha & Kawasaki have 2 each, Honda has ONE) · The complete lack of pre-sportbike (1985) fast bikes · The complete lack of TTF3 sportbikes (1980s/90s 400cc 4-cylinder sportbikes) · The complete lack of "supertwins" (midsize 2-cylinder sportbikes, very popular nowadays) · The amount of paid DLC (so many fantastic bikes locked behind real cash!) · How the adjustable difficulty works (only affects how the AI accelerates, not how it brakes or corners, which means the AI guys can be really fast around certain circuits even on a very low difficulty setting) · The simplicity of the endurance mode (1st motorbike game to have one so whatever, no multiclass racing!) · How non-dark the darkest of places are (you can run around on a racebike without lights at 3:00 no problem) I hope Ride 5 keeps the core mechanics, readjusts the career mode (it's over 500 races long), expands on the endurance mode and has a better vehicle selection
@@valletas it's good that they're trying to keep the servers alive (especially on older games) with live services but seriously the always online requirements sucks as hell
Complete WHAT later? CP2077? Yes. GT7? No. GT7 is my favorite GT game of all times. I absolutely love it. I still have GT5, 6, Sport and now 7. I Love them all.
Having it billed as a "return to form" and the classic Gran Turismo formula returning, I feel pretty betrayed by it to be honest. Replacing the old formula with the cafe was one of the worst decisions in game design I've seen in a lot time. The cafe itself is actually quite a nice feature. It should've been an optional side thing where you had all menus unlocked from the get go, and as you collected cars naturally yourself, you began to fill in the menus. Having the races be track based and not event based (Sunday cup with 3 races, Clubman Cup with 3, Turbo/NA etc) was also a terrible idea. The way they've constructed the dealerships also feels like it's been intentionally restricted for no reason other than encourage FOMO. Why can't I go into the brand central and look at their legendary cars in the way you could in GT4? I loved seeing all the special cars that were in the game, and wondered how did you win them. Speaking of which, something I've not really seen anyway talk about, but I absolutely hate the fact they showed you the prize car before you even started the race. One of the things I found most exciting in the old GT games was seeing what prize car was awaiting you once you won all the races in the event. I simply cannot fathom the people defending this game who claim to have played the older GT games. GT7 is something that had the potential to be great if their first objective was to make a great game, but it wasn't. It's first objective was to make the game just good enough to get players to tolerate it while tweaking everything to encourage the purchase of microtransactions ever so slightly wherever possible at the expense of the enjoyment of the game. Modern gaming has really left me feeling disillusioned with my lifelong hobby.
Thank you for so much for this comment! I've not played the game yet as I was going to just wait and see if they would patch in a proper "offline" mode down the track. That and I was still trying to get my hands on the ever elusive PS5 to begin with. I'm not even going to bother now as I completely agree with the points you raised in your comment. Things like the prize car no longer being revealed as a surprise at the end, or that races are just categorised by track and not into events. They are such small things but it's what makes me treasure the Classic GT games. I think with the direction the series has headed I'll just be content with having fun playing GT 6 on my PS3 and no longer dwelling on it. If I'm lucky enough to see a future return to form than that will be a bonus.
Nail on the head. They removed the freedom of player choice with cafe garbage. Collect these 3 cars you dont want. Do that again 20 times. Imagine if they didnt waste their development time on this. The campaign could of actually had a decent amount of events and not feel like a rushed afterthought. World circuits is an absolute uncoherent mess. Menu layout makes no sense at all. Secret prize cars were a staple motivator in completing the game. Now you have intentionally rigged daily roulettes with crap prizes. And sport mode filled with bop races. Very sad that more than 50% of the cars is a race variant or some retarded ass vision concept thing. Also i miss the 20 variants of the same cars. I want the s4 rx7 infini without the turbo. Not the s5 rx7 gtx savannah. Alot of things that made GT unique have died over each release.
Can’t stand people defending it either, we had so many great games in gt6. All the bmw’s, audi’s, mercs. Pages full of them in the store. Also the career mode i was playing it all night for days to finish it in cars like the v10 rs6. Way more fun game
GT7…personally felt hollow. It doesn’t feel as charming as the older titles. I miss having the endless amount of cars, even if they were duplicates. I miss the rock vibe that I got from the series. I miss how we could actually see our car being washed and repaired in GT5, etc. It feels…sterile. Too sterile to the point it feels hollow. I hate being forced to collect cars; I don’t care about that, I just want to build my own car, my own race car. I hate how every race is a catch mission, rather than a grid start. It’s so annoying, because by the time I’m 2nd place, 1st had already finished 3 minutes ago. I want to be a race driver. Not a car collector who stores their cars in some warehouse only to never drive them again.
@@left4speed519 It was the first GT that I bought when it launched in 2010. Loved the game very much. It’s easily one of the best games that I’ve played.
If they would make it an actual competition, including a Qualfying (it might be up to the Player If it's Just one flying lap or as much time as the Player want, like it was in GT4) to decide the Grid. I also miss plenty of 80's and 90's Cars.
I honestly can't fathom why they tried to reinvent the wheel here, the campaign system from 4 through 6 worked just fine. But this? No Gr1 and 2 events? A general lack of events? A side system that's forced down your throat as the main objective? It makes the game feel as sparse and barebones as GT Sport.
I was so exited when gt7 came out that I bought it on launch. I didn’t enjoy the cafe it felt like something to get over with to get the full game. But after I completed it the game didn’t have much to offer.
What doesn’t it have that previous GT games have? The old GT mode is just in the World Circuits now reshuffled in structure a bit. All those races still require a certain license and certain class of car to race in. You can either buy the car necessary or tune ones you already have to race in them. You can do all the mission challenges which are unique and challenging and of course the circuit experiences. Just confused as to what this game is missing compared to the old GTs now.
@@niismo. god forbid the game has a vision to introduce car culture and history in a unique way as an added level of content. Don’t worry the races you want to use the cars you like in won’t disappear from existence. They’re still there and newer ones will be added over time.
@@sinan_3384 Well then said vision must have taken the wrong place in the game or may have just been executed incorrectly. Because if introducing me to "car culture" is what this sorry excuse of a racing game is trying to do, then it's doing a terrible job in comparison to how other mediums do it. I don't need a videogame in order to introduce me to "car culture." I have Jalopnik, Doug DeMuro, and the first 3 Fast and Furious films for that. Gran Turismo is a videogame interpreted as a racing simulator, not a documentary or a school textbook. I want to drive and go fast, not read somebody's drivel and opinions about "car culture".
@@mitpoker7319 you’re angry that this game set out to do something you didn’t want it to do. If you’re not interested in being introduced to car culture then why buy this game? Make your own damn game or play another racing sim, there are several out there. Why get mad at a dev for having a vision of what THEY want for THEIR game and delivering on that?
@@sinan_3384 Ok... So it's a pile of dog matter that tries to introduce me to car culture. There... Did I get it right? And as far as introductions to car culture go. (Which I've already been introduced, years before the first PlayStation even came out) My point was that there are other mediums that do better justice to car culture rhetoric. And I say this because the way this game tries to do it is vain, cringy, lame, and pathetic. This game is rather an insult to car culture. Car culture in this game is a vanity, rather than a supplement. And as far as videogame racing sims go, Racing sims are not about car culture, kid. They're about driving and going fast, that's it. Everything else should come second. Otherwise, the consequence is what you get in Gt7, an unfinished pile of matter that lacks content.... and tries to introduce me to car culture. This game is not a vision. It's a blindsight. A laughing-stock to racing sims. And someone's personal vanity project.
Totally agree with you, I feel it so tedious to have to press 20 loading menus to change anything or to go anywhere in the game, so outdated in that respect.
@@brawler5760 I think a great feature would be for an auction house where you can sell your car. Make an awesome livery, and let people fight to get it. Or have a specially tuned car. This would encourage people to use their livery making skills to make money. Or maybe make it able to set this car with its livery as a price of a race. The winner gets it. This would certainly increase the fun of the game. I would go there every day to check out new auctions and look at whats interesting to me. Some people are bad at tuning or making liveries, so if they can win races, they now have another option to get a great car. But right now? You cant even set filters for the used car market. I would like to filter out cars I already have and which are not availlable anymore.
@@danieldorn9989 Basically just take the auction house from the Forza series and put it into GT7… that’d be wonderful for real. Actually I have a much better idea, allow us to sell our cars on the used dealership.
Not being able to sell off cars right off of launch is probably my biggest WTF moment in this game. Especially when the devs are so uptight and prissy about economy. Economy... in a Gran Turismo game? Like, who the hell cares?
Honestly, the biggest shortcoming and what scared me off from buying GT7 was how it felt like it didn't recapture what made past titles like 4 good: making the game a celebration of cars and driving, instead of being an okay online focused racer with mediocre singleplayer content. Also, considering how Polyphony supported online in past titles, I'm scared for when it shuts down.
The game feels so soulless. Any little throwback to past games just feels like it's there to shut the old fans up. Though I like a lot of the customisation for sure, the widebody, the upgrade parts, I also like the car selection. I think PD has this vision for GT to be this grand racing experience with the glamour and class that is portrayed on TV with F1 and Le Mans etc. It's really hard to explain what I mean, but the whole cafe thing, the jingle when winning a prize car, the midi classical-jazz remixes, getting Lewis Hamilton to play the opening theme. There's just this air of pretentiousness that I feel when playing this game. Older GT games just had this amazing playful vibe, they were absolutely full of charm and they seemed to have a rhythm to them. The menus, the music, the noises when selecting or deselecting, the art direction, they just had this amazing flow to them that hasn't been replicated since GT5. I guess I'm really just disappointed about the vibe and feel of the game more than anything, which isn't really fair. I think the correct term for the past 3 releases would be masturbat0ry, and self-absorbed. It's unfortunate.
I got Gran Turismo 7 on launch. So excited to play it. I remember first booting into Simulation Mode as I still call it and was like, wait, "where are the licenses? where is the dealership?" then after I unlocked them I figured out what was going on. I have played every single game of GT and my disappointment was immeasurable when I found out GT Cafe wasn't a side thing, it was the whole game. I played for 2 days and never touched it again. I wanted a traditional GT game on the PS5. Not this linear experience. Don't get me started on the used and historic cars that are limited in stock and update every now and then :/
They are improving the game over time, so I'm confident the game will be in a much better spot some time from now. But I 100% don't blame you for quitting after just a couple of days. As said in the video, the game will be better in the future, but not many will stick around to witness it sadly. The first impression is very important for games. If a game doesn't convince you from the get go, then usually the majority of the player base drops the game and never touches it again, regardless of future updates that are supposed to improve the game. I can kinda live with all the other "bad" things mentioned in the video, but not having the freedom based career mode like in the older games was definitely devastating to see. The linear menu book progression was the single worst thing a GT game has ever done in 25 years, and I really hope that GT8 goes back to the old career mode style. I'm still playing GT7, simply because it's GT, but it definitely has a lot of wasted potential.
I played it twice as well over two weekends. I thought this game was going to be a winner, so much so I bought the Logitech wheel. I haven't touched either in over a month. I felt as if I just paid $60 dollars to give me access to the online game. Should i, for whatever reason, not have internet connection or if I don't also pay for PlayStation plus, I cannot play 99% of the game for which I already paid $60. Doubtful I'll ever buy the next version of this game.
My biggest gaming regret... buying this game! You notice that you do not even need to do licenses? You used to have to do them to enter certain races! Now they are just there "to do if you want"
In my personal opinion, I think the lack of content is what makes the game feel rather shallow, as if after you complete the entire cafe, you only are left with doing races, license test, and missions, which can all be completed in a week or two. Granted, we just got a update that adds 3 new cars, and another event, however I feel like we need more instead of less. GT7 is a great game, and I'm having my fun with it, however it's important to talk about the flaws of the game, instead of trying to go right over them.
Lack of content 427 cars plus more added already 60 plus tracks License tests Online racing lobby Daily races Championships Tuning Scapes And more...seriously
@@nevvanclarke9225 and Gran Turismo 6 had 1200+ cars 86 tracks (it even had the moon) license tests an online lobby tuning championships a camera mode all on the Ps3, Gran turismo 4 had 700+ cars, 51 tracks (technically more because most of the 51 tracks had reverse layouts), championships, one of the earliest forms of photomode and it ran at 1080p on the ps2. If polyphony can do all of that on a ps2 console they could definitely have a 1600+ car list with a 100+ track list with the ps5s capabilities. Gt7 is missing over 854 cars and over 20 tracks and layouts, without the alternate layouts gt7 has only 35 different tracks these numbers should be going up not down, they also didn't have to completely change deep forest and trial mountain and could've at least included the older layouts like how gt4 had the 80s, 90, and 00s layouts of fuji, they completely butchered the ford gt lm race car spec II while forgetting to add other dtm cars for the Alfa Romeo 155 dtm to compete with. so far they have only added 6 cars in 2 months and this trend of incomplete games getting released needs to stopped, nobody wanted the gt cafe to be the career mode of gt7, all we can do really now is to have better hopes for gran turismo 8
Worst part for me is the DRM Man i can ignore the agressive griding and monetization but please just let me play the thing that I OWN I refuse to play any game with DRM because i know that less then 5% games with DRM gets an update that removes it All others die
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN no dude i dont think you know what drm is because EVERY drm is like denuvo What you are thinking about is anti piracy with im ok with but DRM by definition makes the game unplayable without an internet connection regardless if it is denuvo or anything else
Honestly i was very excited when this Game came out, after the State of Play presentation i felt really hyped about this Game and what it could have been, i bought on Day 1 (Actually 2) for my PS4 (Yeah, i don't have a PS5 and for the moment that Console doesn't truly catch my attention), i putted the Disc, i was truly very happy to finally see a Gran Turismo Intro with Moon Over The Castle for the very first time worldwide and after i started playing the Game... It didn't feel right, the "Career Mode" felt kinda empty and extremely short compared to other GT Games (Even GT1 & GT Sport's GT League are even Longer than this attempt of GT Mode), i was just doing races and getting Cars, it took me less than a month to finish this crap, after that the only thing left to do was grinding and get cars, at first with the troublematic economy from versions 1.07 to 1.09 was really a pain in the ass to grind credits just to get the Car you want, also the lack of events make this problem even worse since now you have to grind and grind the same race over and over again just to get like 50k Credits per race, luckily 1.11 came and it pretty much improved the economy and with the addition of endurance events like the 30 Minute Circuit de la Sarthe Gr. 4 Event (Which is my favorite) that gives you 550k Cr or even 800k Cr if you do a clean race and now in 1.13 the 1 Hour Spa Francorchamps Gr. 3 Event that gives you 1M Cr really helped with the in-game economy, because of that i don't see the pay to win thing truly as the biggest problem anymore, now the true big issue is the pretty much Barebones State the Game is at the moment and the lack of stuff to do in the Game and the lack of race events for you to take advantage of your Garage, truly we URGENTLY need Gr. 1 and Gr. 2 Race Events since there are literally NOTHING at the moment, and also more races that involve Normal Cars that have Standing Grids, since at the moment we only have 2 of them that are from the Clubman Cup Plus Race Events, and i truly want to see more of them.
A lot of expensive cars don't have any use, I take the opportunity to buy all the invitation cars in grand central but no one can be used in events unless you detuned
100% agree with you. I always felt the heart of the GT games was how unique each playthrough was. We all had an incentive to talk about our playthrough from each of the games because it was always different. Now, it's barely unique. combined with it's clusterfuck race menu and forcing online only. I was so annoyed I was going to trade it in and get at least some of my money back. Feels like there are no major developers that give a shit about the art form anymore. Just about how the user can be exploited. I was so disappointed with this. Thank fuck Elden Ring was good lol
Damn. I have been following GT7's release out of genuine curiosity, and I was looking for a fan's perspective. This just feels like they missed the mark in meaningful ways. Great video.
I've been playing GT from day one. Still own my original ps1 copy. The game is fine. GT7 is consistent with past entries, if not the best of the bunch. It mostly feels like the character of gamers in general has gotten worse more than anything...
@@ReallyRealColby how exactly is forcing people to do GT cafe better than the open nature of license tests and various championships in the previous games? locking cars behind a realtime timer? I still like this game but you can't ignore the obvious flaws. I really hope they make GT8 a TRUE return to basics. One more thing that's specific to me is that i preferred the music of the previous games, GT3 and GT5 being my favourites. I don't think classical fits very well.
Nail on the head with this one. Campaign is is like a giant tutorial forcing only certain cars to be played👎 and the used car dealership selection is a waste of ram it's useless especially considering that brand central only sells cars made past 2001 the used car dealership was a huge flop this game disappointed on so many levels. Upgrade your car to the max and lose all reasonable control regardless of different tune setups cause uea that's how it is irl why else trick a car out if not to lose all drivability
Making this a live service has ruined the game. I am mad I bought the $90 collectors edition. Make no mistake, I love the actual gameplay, but hate the presentation. The game as a service should have been free to play.
$90 well spent, to my mind. The Cafe is a lot more charming and engaging than the career progression in GT6 or Sport ever was. Remember how they literally tacked that on because there was such an uproar? The Cafe blows that out if the water...
@@VeraTheTabbynx tbf the new in-game economies is already much better than it was before. And with how much money you get from the circuit experience, it's now a lot more rewarding than it uses to be. But yeah they need to up the credit on sport mode and custom races too
@@scuckplexity AND vastly up the amount of money buying the microtransactions gets. I'm surprised nobody talks about this, considering the fact the Mclaren F1 is still $185 IRL USD.
For me the most disappointing part is the Sport mode. I expected to have a wider variety of online races with the road cars, tuning, formula cars, Gr1 cars, whatever... But its still the same Gr3/Gr4 lago maggiore/red bull ring all over again. Also they could at least give use one ot 2 karting tracks if they decide to add karts..
@@icecreampimpdeux it is in fact one of my top 5 fav tracks, but still its only a few cars that are being used. I wish i could use any of my tuned road cars in any ranked online race. And not a private lobby one, im good without Tomahawks in my race
I want more race types in sport mode , especially a few more fun type races , yet if they do that some lobbies will be lacking players. Im not sure how many players play online at any given time , but from what i see on the lobbies most ppl wanna race 800pp and higher or just gr3. When i enter the 'Meeting Place' its the same thing, majority are just testing the fastest cars possible or some gr3 vehicle.
The real shame with modern gaming is that I don’t think the industry as a whole will ever be what our generation wants it to be based on the games we used to love growing up. The entire industry is very different now and I see it all continuing in the same vain from here on. On thing which made games great in years gone by is that companies couldn’t get away with releasing fluffed out or unfinished content like they can now. In the past we got complete, well made, big free games that were entirely on disk because that was the best tech available and if companies wanted us to come back for the next one the whole game had to be spot on from its release. I haven’t yet played GT7 but I adore the previousGT games 1-4 in particular and I’m a stickler for linear games (with enough agency to feel in control) that have proper hard progression systems. I think what we’re (or at least I’m) finding is that games now are either too linear or far too open, lacking balance. My particular gripe if I could narrow it to one point is the abundance of games in this generation which prioritise quantity over quality (I can’t really speak for gt7 as I haven’t played it yet) but your pints seem to make perfect sense. For me the last 2/3 forza titles have been steps backwards, Dying light 2 for me is the worst offender of all (sorry for going off topic a little). Dying light 2 is the complete embodiment of what’s wrong with games today: coma inducing story, massive and pretty but completely copy pasted and lifeless world/ map, rushed physics, buggy as hell, generic badly paced progression which promises agency but is ultimately linear and generic.
Playing GT3 and GT4 just shows how inferior GT7 feels. No manufacturer events, no endurance races. Its all about collecting cars not racing. Not to mention how this game forces gt cafe rather than having a proper career!!
I feel the same about the "collecting cars not racing" statement. Don't get me wrong, the driving model is great, and I'm having quite a lot of fun racing and driving around, but the entire campaign is doing the menu books, which force you to do races just to collect cars. There's also a book of all the cars you collected and you cannot sell cars (you can only delete them, and only when you have more than 1 of the same car)
Then the game gets boring cant start a new game No new events No more Tournaments only online races terrible dealerships hope u have unlimited internet access
I haven't purchased GT7 since I'm currently studying abroad and was planning to buy GT7 when I get home or if I get a playstation if I'm extending my stay here - but given the feedback from the players on discord servers I usually hang out with, I have my reservations on the game itself especially the FOMO elements, roulette tickets, and microtransactions. Almost daily that people complained about the rigged roulette tickets for a while. I appreciate the honesty on this video, and this does add more to my reservations on this game. This is not the GT game I anticipated. Maybe if it were to be improved in the future is when I'd consider purchasing it, but for now, I'll just observe and watch others play.
You should tweet this right at them. I feel exactly like you do, with one additional gripe: I've been playing sport, I thought I was in the loop, but I saw ZERO advertising and so missed the pre order cars without having a chance to even choose.
GT Sport is a way better game than GT7 for me. The fact that GT Sport looks visually better and plays better than GT7 makes zero sense. I did comparisons, and some tracks have more detail on GT Sport on PS4 than GT7 on PS5!!! I actually went back to GT Sport on PS4 and sold my copy of GT7 on PS5. I also hated the new physics in GT7 and in cockpit wobble was super annoying.
This game has honestly been so confusing to me. I genuinely love it, i loved sport, but yet like its put here theres just an overarching feeling of knowing that this isnt the game that i expected. Whether that be despite its claims that its a traditional game, its quite far from it, or things that are just. Shockingly absent. why cant i change a single setting in online lobbies without leaving and making a completely new one?? When we already had theses systems in place in gt sport?? Or things like the performance point system and tuning being unbelievably unbalanced. Stuff like that is what makes me upset about this game.
I always thought the used car dealership should be cars that other players have sold tbh. It would be like a trade system but not and maybe allow you to sell things to players directly. It's also a way players could help their friends as you can sell a car they want and since it's used the price would be lower.
This is the best take I’ve seen on this! As a non competitive player who was mostly here for the fun of offline progression and collecting, nothing they are going to be able to change post launch can save it for me. I’ll still play it because I’m so hungry for GT content and it’s more up my alley than sport (and about equal to 6 with better graphics). But i won’t be returning to it for years as I hoped.
To me the big issue with GT7 is the prize-money-to-car-price ratio. I started the game on the licence tests and won a bunch of cars there, and have almost gone through the entire game with only purchasing a single car at a dealership, yet I never seem to actually be earning money, or at least I'm earning it at a very slow rate. I find myself spending equal-to and sometimes more money on tuning cars for particular events to meet requirements and be competitive than what the payouts offer, and this is even with me being sensible by just using the closest car to the PP target I have instead of wild 'dream builds', and again let me remind you that I've gone through the game with only purchasing a car with my own credits once. It's just a constant grind, and I'm often having to repeat events twice just to be making a profit which gets boring. It's so obvious that they're trying to force players into spending money on microtransactions, and on top of that, the microtransactions are ludicrously expensive in proportion to the price of some of the most expensive cars in the game; the top most expensive cars in the game are worth almost an entire 9-hour's day wages for me, not that pay-2-win should be encouraged anyway. 9 hours of sweat, labour, and exhaustion is apparently worth the same as an imaginary car lmao. It's like their target audience is NFT bros with more money than sense. It's funny and sad. I didn't even have high expectations of GT7 and was almost going to pass on buying it, but brought it under the impression that it was going back to it's roots. Unless Polyphony does a spectacular U-turn, I 100% won't be buying GT8, and I've owned every GT.
I have genuinely loved GT7. It shockingly may be one of my favorite games this year, and that's in spite of the areas where it stumbles. IDK if it's just me, but the amount of content and attention to detail in the racing/weather system is genuinely impressive. I guess it all depends on your thoughts on Cafe; which I absolutely love! Plus it's a much more efficient way to teach newcomers how to race and tune properly (hence the early pacing issues for vets alongside the missions/license objectives taking a lil bit of time to open up).
I actually wondering if Grid Legends finally can get some attention, since people were hyped more into GT7 and leaving Grid Legends into dust. I heard that Grid Legends seems to be an upgrade from Grid 2019 which makes it much better
Sidenote: GT7 has a roughly 1 to 2 frame buffer to create the better visuals and that is what creates the "smooth" gameplay at the cost of... roughly 1 to 2 frames of input delay that you barely notice for the most part.
@@dolbyprologicii Correct, one of the post processing effects that uses buffering is motion blur, and its been quite popular with the controversial slider in horizon 5 and whatnot, however there are also other composting effects that use buffering (its why DLSS has better frame times with more pre-rendered frames, and it's how SLI works in the first place).
I think pretty much everybody misunderstood GT Café would be just side content next to proper GT Mode. The pre-release marketing was very... unclear, to put it mildly.
Online updates/microtransactions have become the ultimate excuse for game developers to release unfinished & uncompleted games every year, & polyphony digital has proven no different. There is no excuse for a game that took nearly a decade to release after 6 to have as little content as it does. Who's to say that the cars we're still waiting on in the legends & used car dealership aren't just unreleased free dlc that they haven't gotten programmed yet?
i agree with this. i loved being able to build up in my own way from nothing. didn't like how in gt6 you had to buy a honda fit at the start though at least you had freedom after that. something else which i would say is a more personal problem, is actually something a lot of people have criticised gran turismo for over the years. if you look at the car list of gt7, there are 4 nissan skylines, that being 1 r32, r33 amd r34, as well as a 1970 skyline. gt6 has 10 r32s alone. each one has a similar body but slightly different stats. you get a lower end model, a facelift, a high end, a touring car even. and theres something about that which adds to the immersion of a used car dealership. maybe its just me but i like seeing lots of variants of the same model. gran turismo has always been a celebration of the auto industry, as opposed to forza horizon which is a celebration of car culture (both are great in their own ways). and so seeing base models and facelifts is a part of that industry i'd like to be able to virtually experience? i dont know. i get that it was kind of filler for the numbers game of car lists but i liked it
We are almost two months into GT7 and truthfully the game feels a little boring now. Once you complete Café all that’s left is to grind money for the used and legendary cars. It’s lacking something, we need things to go back to the way they were as described in this video. We need a proper career mode with race categories ranging from beginner to professional. More cars, tracks etc… I’ve been saying for awhile that GT7 would be an easy game to get right. Take all the best parts of the past games and bring them into the modern era, that’s all, not complicated. The fact that Kaz saw the contestants at Nations Cup playing old games like GT3 should have told him everything he needed to know.
All these games drip-feeding content and demanding full payment from start are simply infuriating. Then devs coming on with their BS about how to game will 'grow' into something they envisioned is just pathetic.
At this point everyone who considers to buy GT7 should wait until its life cycle (content update wise). This dripfeeding of the cars and races drag so much even Sport felt more thought out in its career. Im sure you're able to pick up GT7 for a good price until then.
the most hated things that makes me don't really want to play GT7 is the handling right not, i really loved the balance under and oversteer handling of GT5, GT6 then GT sport changed it up a bit, but still acceptable, but GT7 handling is just pure garbage even after the rear wheel drive car handling patch, they still feels like spinning everytime with no confidence to turn properly
Normally I’m not uptight on graphics and fidelity, but yeah GT Sport and GT7 just look so outdated… and it’s incredibly obvious when you look past the motion blur.
@@brawler5760 yeah defo agree on that. I will give it credit for having amazing car models which are top notch but everything else I'm not impressed. The sunlight just feels like they turned up bloom to 100 percent
@@lordadz1615 Oh certainly, the car models just look amazing. But… Grid Legends has equally amazing looking cars, and better environments. GT7 again just looks insanely flat…
Gran Turismo 6 was "live service" enough for me. I just want it back, with the regular events and content drops. That game felt like a love letter and I might be outspoken but I do feel like it was the pinnacle of the series, despite also being the foot stepping off the edge of the cliff into microtransaction hell.
Honestly, GT7 makes me rethink how is our gaming culture and behaviours changed. Feels like the game did follow its roots but maybe we are the ones who changed, so feeling disatisfied? Nowadays we are so thirsty for content, and want everything at a snap of our fingers, due to social media and technology. True art takes time to polish but we just tend to lose our patients easily. Anyway, looking forward to this.
@@beegdawg i think that's because most of the people demand games in the highest graphical quality as possible, and gt7 + forza horizon 5 are not an exception, because imagine how much of the details would have the devs to fix in the most complex meshes, and how long would these things even take to fix
Truth is, gaming has evolved in a lucrative business, like many entertainment businesses in history, this is nothing new. The graphics are not the problem, the gamers' demands are not the problem either, the real problem is that gaming went from a niche market for enthusiasts to a money machine. It blows my mind that some people actually think gamers can change the state of things. Yes, they might be able to with smaller developers, but triple A games are doomed to go down this path, because no matter how much a small portion of the players complains, the majority will always be buying it. Luckily Gran Turismo might actually have a chance since this portion is way bigger, but games like FIFA are doomed to stay money machines, hyped up before release, announcing features, and bla bla bla. I wouldn't say the gamers are to blame, it's just the business model that evolved and now prevails.
GT7 is the least happy I've been with a game in the greater part of a decade. - Old GT games had a lot of unique and interesting events with all sorts of requirements. Half of GT7 is copy pasted "WTC 700" or "WTC 800" events with no real use. The game has Gr.2 and Gr.1 class cars and you can't use them in any sort of single player content. You spend the equivalent of 10 dollars on an in-game car that you can only use in Time Trials or custom races that aren't rewarding in the slightest. GT4 had all sorts of events where you'd use an extremely specific car you'd never use other wise to win something unique, like the Blue Mica Subaru 360 or the Nike 2022 or that one sport Silverado. - GT7 also has a godawful line up of cars, where you're forced to use the most famous cars in the world, with very few interesting "oddball" choices like the dozens of obscure kei cars in GT4 and GT5 and the lower end cars that you'd use a lot in GT1 and GT2. I've been playing racing games for my entire life, I'm kind of tired of driving Skylines. - The roulette system is a joke. A literal joke. I can almost hear Kaz laughing every time you land on the 5,000cr. That, or you get parts for a car you literally DO NOT OWN, CANNOT OWN, AND WILL PROBABLY NEVER OWN. I would really like for there to be a community crowdsourced effort to find the odds of getting anything other than the worst gift every single time. If GT7 was a person, GT7 would be one of the most punchable people I've ever met. GT7 just feels like Sport again, with no real effort put into the single player content. I regret purchasing the game and I feel utterly insulted. Welcome to the future of gaming, folks. It's only going to get worse from now on. The game isn't going to improve. It's going to remain the same soulless husk it launched as. I wasn't born yesterday.
Forza Motorsport and especially the horizon series are getting better and better with each new entry but horizon 5 is slowly losing players bc it’s getting stale already and forza horizon franchise Will reach its 10th anniversary this year maybe playground games will remaster the first horizon game on Xbox series xs upscale
@@kevingame3198 FH5 was a broken mess at launch and I don't think they ever fixed half of it. That, and they got screwed over by Stellantis and lost a ton of cars they otherwise could've used.
@@brawler5760 Both games are in a bad state imo, and I've dropped them both completely cuz I wasn't enjoying them for a second. I'm harsher toward GT7 cuz I waited a decade for it and that initial reveal trailer turned out to be nothing but nostalgia baiting bullshit.
I don't agree with everything you said but this is a well thought out and objective analysis. I like GT7 but I'm disappointed in what it delivered. My biggest disappointment is the AI. We were promised this amazing learning AI (or that's how they made it sound). In reality the AI is slightly better than GTS but it is still fairly stupid. With the always on DRM I foolishly thought maybe they'd be doing something interesting like AI run in the cloud that would learn from what I did with it. Nope.
@@somat111 It was not promised explicitly but much was implied. All I can see the AI learned in the game now is brake checking, blocking, and dive bombing. Don't get me wrong as I do enjoy the game. I'm just disappointed.
Enjoying your review as usual. I just wanted to say that I’m sorry you have to deal with people saying things are clickbait or insisting you not talk about completely legitimate issues. I’ve been playing GT since 1998 (started with a Japanese import and the license tests were not easy when I couldn’t read the directions) and have since purchased 1-6, Sport and 7 as well as multiple GT branded wheels, but honestly my experience with Sony and PD on 7 was so negative that I stopped buying Sony products entirely for a bit. GT7 was the first game from Sony I ever tried to return - and the first game of any kind I ever tried to return since the early to mid-90s. I know you made the choice to avoid getting mired in microtransaction discussions and I totally respect that, but between their handling of that, the always online requirement and refusual to let players refund the game (I talked to a lot of their people over the phone) over the changes, outages, etc. it just really made it hard to feel good about playing the game. 25 years was a long time to really like a series - I hope they can course correct and make me want to come back again one day. In the meantime, I can still enjoy your review. Your racing games playlist was great for lifting my spirits as a podcast when I listened to it on drives to and from the doctor to follow-up on a recent surgery. Keep up the great stuff and I hope you’re doing great with self-care. :)
if there's anything I noticed from the Gran Turismo series is that they rush a 1st game on a new Playstation console and fix and improve in the second, example: GT1 and GT2 were both on the ps1, GT3 and GT4 were on the ps2, GT5 and GT6 were in the ps3 (correct me if GT6 was on ps4 or not) and maybe GT7 could be improved on GT8 (if they're ever looking on making and sequel to GT7), the big thing I looked forward to in GT7 was different racing type's, when Kaz made the 1st game he wanted to add different racing type's like Rally, Drag racing, even Derby and Banger racing but due to low storage he couldn't, in GT2 they had to rush the game and didn't have enough time to, and GT3 they abandoned that idea. I got really exited and nostalgic while playing the menu books but maybe just MAYBE they'll forget the menu book idea (in my opinion I hope they will).
Oh man that makes me sad knowing the game holds your hand this way. Recently I've been replaying GT2 with the Plus mod as I was in this racing mood, and just experiencing the freedom and dealing with bad car investments is just a core fun thing.
I wasnt happy with games in general. I figured having a nice relaxing racing game would be nice and get me out of this messed up microtransaction gaming nightmare we live in. Boy was I wrong. Seems that greed destroyed racing games too. The current state of gran turismo should be free. Not a 70 dollar game with little to no content. It has content for a mobile game. What a joke.
i hate the ticket system. and im frustrated in how no ones talk about it so they'll probably never fix it for example people keep saying "rewards are shit is only engine swaps and random stuff" but the "random" stuff you get are also exclusive parts you can't buy on the shop that gives you more hp / less weight etc, even for Gr3 cars for Sports. so even if 2 players build the same car buying every part from the tunning shop. if one player got lucky to get titanium / stage 5 / ultra parts, he will be in a unfair advantage. also on the recent update they also added more engine swaps like the RB26 for the 180sx and BRZ FD engine for the Qs S13, yet locked on ticket system. there should've be a special shop exclusive for those parts that change daily at high price (for example 100k for a swap?) or something for example there's Stage 5 weight reduction, Ultra RPM turbo, titanium parts and obviously the swaps all locked on the roulette only..
wait engine swaps are locked behind the fucking roulette system? you've gotta be fucking joking. I assumed the "new engine" things were just replacements instead of having to replace yours to make up for PP loss.
As a longtime (since the beginning) GT fan.. this game did not live up to the hype. This series used to be the undisputed pinnacle of racing games (on console) and did not live up to that this time
Also, there’s a lot of Simracing out there and there’s definitely a market for having an intermediate choice between Simracing and Arcade racing. I think the more choices the better, it’s a shame that money is first priority and not a great product, because usually in any art entertainment, if the quality is good, money usually comes along and there’s different ways to earn than to funnel and manipulate your customer into buying more.
I really don't like the extremely rigid 3rd person camera of gran turismo games. Having the camera sway back and forth with the turning of the car feels so much better to me, and honestly helps me handle the car better as I can more easily see what's going on with the grip.
I don’t understand why people don’t talk about this enough. It’s absolutely dumb in GT7, especially since it follows the orientation of your car, which is evident if you flip your car upside down in the rally races.
Another comment. I spent months playing GT3 and GT4 games from launch as a kid. When I switched from the 360 to the PS3 for the first time and tried GT5, I was impressed. GT6 came out and while not much was new, nothing was hurt and it was still fun and felt somewhat true to the IP. Sport was very much comparable to FM5 to Forza or Horizon games to the Motorsport series. It tried and did cool things, but everything else about the game hurt and felt so wrong. I am seeing this game be like GT6, but hurting from the microtransactions that placed the cherry on top. Shame.
For me its that every race is a rolling start, and the AI is just a roadblock that you overtake. There is no personality to it. Looking back at Racedriver: GRID, it was actually implemented that the AI is not perfect, and it does make mistakes, and you get that info over radio from your team. This gives it a feeling of immersion.
Honestly? I've enjoyed it a lot. I haven't picked up FH5 since I got GT7 and I'm not looking back with much regret. Sure, the push to spend real money is the strongest it's ever been, but all in all, I have no trouble finding an hour long endurance race I can play solo and be challenged. I've never felt frustration on getting less than 1st place on long races, because they're still fun and challenging. Would I love more money in game? Yeah! It sucks that there are a lot of cars that are unattainable currently. Just like all games that come out now, there is a long tail for GT7 in terms of content, race series, and updates. A year from now, all criticism will fall to deaf ears as they dial in the experience and optimize it for everyone. Just a shame my G920 doesn't play nice with Playstation. It'll be my daily go-to until the new Forza Motorsport drops, and I'm not going to be even remotely surprised when Forza has the same teething issues GT has currently.
I thought exactly the same thing as you did about the Café. It knocked me for a loop at first, and to be honest, I really don't like it. I resorted to purchasing another PS 3 (I sold my old one when I bought my ps 4 in 2014) just so I could play GT 6 again, just to experience the old Gran Turismo gameplay flow.
I don’t know. I still think it has the pinnacle of the franchise… …the game is only just over a month old, and we should be expecting a lot of future content… …I really want to see opinions on GT7 in, say… a year. I really think there’s much more to come. All of our opinions so far are based on a proverbial ‘Chapter 1’ of this experience.
People: Games should not be released half-baked and require updates or even DLCs to get to the state it should be in at release! Also people: Give GT7 one more year to improve! Me: ...
the thing is, if we keep letting things like this slide, more unfinished games will appear that will use the same excuse. To be honest, I'd rather have a finished game day one, then they can release the DLCs if they wanted it to...
To be fair I agreed with everything you said. For me the most obnoxious part of GT7 is the way they try to pressurise you into spending money by shafting you on roulette, shafting you on earnings and then giving you invitations to buy multi million dollar cars which are on a timed basis and you cant afford. Although not to worry, you can spend real money on GT coins.....It's so obviously been geared towards getting you to spend more that I find it extremely offensive and obnoxious, I would never have expected that approach from polyphony. It feels like the love for Motorsport has vanished while being replaced by a love for higher profit margins. The soul is definitely missing from GT7. As far as the cafe is concerned, they should have treat it like a literal cafe where you could take a car your passionate about and essentially attend a coffee and cars where you could meet other people in game with their car, speaking over the mic through a proximity based system. Being able to chat or challenge people to races from the cafe would have been fun too but they really didn't think about it it feels like.
always online is the reason I will never buy this game. Cannot believe people are okay with not being able to play a SINGLEPLAYER game when servers are down for maintenance
I was all ready to try and acquire a PS5 so I could play GT7, but now that it's come out and all the negative reception has been there, I think I'll just play something else. Shame, because GT is one of my favorite franchises, to the point where I adamantly defend the PSP version as being better than people think it is, but if this is how they treat their longtime fans, I don't think I'll be playing the newest entry.
I'm absolutely loving the game. I love the idea you actually have to play the game to earn cars etc. I believe gamers have become so lazy that they forgot what it's like to actually play a game to earn progress!
I really appreciate when there’s care put into a progression system, even as clinical as the term can sound. The general streamlining and standardization of progression in games is pretty heartbreaking to me, it’s usually done out of insecurity or fear players will quit, with online & service based games taking a lead, that seems to be more of s threat as time goes on. The fear of players quitting partway through is now influencing design deep into solo aspects of games.
It sucks that a great franchise like this one, but the coffee thing it’s just annoying and you cannot advance in the game , and the worst part is , it’s a live server game, thats why i returned my copy of GT7 and GT sports. :(
The menu was ok, but it shouldn't have been the main focus. Some suggestions for the game: - More tracks (starting with Grand Valley, Seattle and Midfield) - Coop races - Custom races with relevant rewards - User generated content (design races and championships) - More single player championships - Partnership with WEC, DTM and other Japanese series with tracks and cars - More Formule 1 tracks (starting with Imola, Hungaro Ring, and Albert Park) - More Indy Car tracks (starting with Long Beach, Indianapolis, Ohio and Detroit) - More WEC tracks (starting with Sebring, Hockenheim and Zolder) Did I mention more tracks? All jokes aside I really enjoy GT7, but I can't ignore the fact the tracklist is barely expanded from Sport and that's a real shame. GT6 had a massive number of tracks. We need more class gt tracks and real world circuits to be added
FINALLY A REAL REVIEW OF THE SECOND WORST GAME IN THE FRANCHISE. EXTREMELY UNFINISHED. EVERY MAJOR REVIEWER LIED FOR SOME REASON AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MICROTRANSACTIONS. THE AI SUCKS, YOU DONT ACTUALLY RACE AT ALL. THERES NO NEW CONTENT FROM SPORT. NO NEW SPORTS CARS FROM THE PAST 5 YEARS. NO ONLINE LOBBY MANAGMENT, YOU CANT EVEN SCROLL DOWN YOUR TIME TRIAL TIMES. PD IS LAZY
Seriously though, I just wanted a good racing game for my ps5, gt7 just isn’t really good. Its the bare minimum for a “sequel” and they hadn’t fixed a single problem from the past 5 games, they just add around the problems and make new ones. The game feels as if it’s from a much smaller company
"Gran Turismo Café plays more like an overgrown tutorial than a fleshed out mode" I couldn't have expressed my feelings towards the GT7 campaign better than this.
It’s not even a campaign at that point. It’s like The Division 2 where everything from the start of the game to taking over the White House from the True Sons and then D.C gets taken over by the Black Tusk, but in that game at least it’s rewarding and it’s SOME endgame content. There’s none here.
interesting that kaz mentions long term support of a game that requires internet to play its single player content. i wonder how long term those servers will be running for? my copy of gt1 still works just fine, im pretty sure gt7 will be a paperweight in 25 years
it's upsetting that we won't get a game like the ps1, 2, or even ps3 entries with this high of a budget/fidelity in this current extremely profit driven landscape. Hopefully like Sport, 7 would make vast improvements. I don't care for multiplayer, but it was great as a 7: prologue. It slowly got road cars i'm interested in. Also I wanna know your thoughts on the handling. I didn't have a hard enough time in Sport as I did in 7. Maybe it's the braking.
I'm starting to feel like GT2, 3, and 4 could never be replicated again with how game develop is now. The technology obviously is there but no one either has or would devote the necessary resources to make masterful games like the classics. Also, the consumer base would buy anything now regardless of quality. Quite sad but atleast the past titles will always exist.
I don't like compact cars. It's a crazy idea that I'd be getting another Honda Fit like in GT6. Thankfully, there was the Mazda Demio among the three cars available, but I still hold that grudge. And about the penalty line system... I'm not going to cite it, it only makes me hurl by just thinking about it.
I wanna pin this comment ahead of the premiere & address some stuff about GT7 that I didn't really find a way to work into the video. First: No, Gran Turismo 7 is not bad. I'm not saying it's a trash game or unplayable or whatever people on Twitter are calling it this week. I just am personally not enjoying the game all that much. The driving mechanics are solid, it's a very pretty game, and I am of course glad to see a mainline title releasing after so long.... but the issues I outline in the video make the experience feel very hollow to me, as someone who loved the singleplayer aspects of GT1-6.
At the same time, the complete backseat Sport mode has taken is really disappointing to see after Polyphony carved out such an incredible foundation with Sport. It feels like they've overcorrected in response to the traditional, singleplayer crowd-- whose opinions are of course valid, but these two sides of the game could coexist much better than they currently do.
I also find the handling model to be a bit shit, with ridiculous snap oversteer in even the slowest, weakest RWD vehicles. This is admittedly a mixture of playing on controller & being used to Sport's more forgiving throttle.... but this is, once again, too far in another direction. I've played iRacing on a controller with less frustration than I've experienced here. It feels as if the entire game was built around GT3 cars on racing tires & everything else just.... doesn't grip. I am glad I didn't end up seeing it as important enough to address compared to this video's main points, because literally the day I finalized the video & sent it off for sponsor review, the 1.13 patch adjusted the handling. It is *not* fixed, the RX-8 still snap oversteers as if it doesn't have the torque of a lawnmower, but correcting oversteer is now.... possible, instead of a fool's errand.
Anyways, I'm excited to hear about how y'all are feeling about GT7. I know it's been a divisive game among fans-- though it seems nobody is without complaints here or there.
edit: comments about driving line & assists are pretty rude, and usually wrong. I do not have brake assist on, as some have insinuated. I had TCS on ONE because of how bad the snap oversteer was. Note that this video came out the same day as the patch where they reduced RWD oversteer. Because it was bad. As for the driving line: I have ADHD & I dissociate/zone out really easily. The driving line stops me from ruining a ~10 minute race by accidentally driving off the track or missing a braking zone. if I know a track really well, I don't need it, but I also have trouble memorizing track layouts due to that same disability.
You must be playing before 1.13. The snap oversteer simply isn’t there.
Hey man I would invite you try the game in those FR and MR platforms again since yesterday’s patch as they addressed this just yesterday and driving these cars now is all the pleasure you would expect. It’s night and day better
@@UniversalStand yes it is, I tested it again post patch and it is still a problem on the RX-8- albeit much easier to correct.
1.13 definitely made the Circuit Experiences a LOT easier for me (as well as a generally better driving experience overall). Even as someone who managed to earn gold on the NA version of R-6 on GT3, there are a select few sectors that felt impossible to gold on a controller. GT7 made me realize I no longer like Catalunya after spending well over an hour on sector 3, lol
I've been getting away with flooring it out of certain corners that would've punished me for even giving 25% throttle in the past. It might not be as big a challenge as license tests of the past, but I'm no longer pulling my hair out over inconsistent driving mechanics
Is Ride 4 the final pure vehicle collector videogame then?
I've been playing it for like 2 weeks now and it's pure as fuck - You can buy whatever whenever, you can hate some type of sportbike or circuit and still be fine...
Here is some things I dislike about an otherwise great game:
· The lack of European sportbikes between 1985 and 1999 (they skipped some GREAT Ducatis) plus the scarcity of Japanese ones (Suzuki has the most with THREE, Yamaha & Kawasaki have 2 each, Honda has ONE)
· The complete lack of pre-sportbike (1985) fast bikes
· The complete lack of TTF3 sportbikes (1980s/90s 400cc 4-cylinder sportbikes)
· The complete lack of "supertwins" (midsize 2-cylinder sportbikes, very popular nowadays)
· The amount of paid DLC (so many fantastic bikes locked behind real cash!)
· How the adjustable difficulty works (only affects how the AI accelerates, not how it brakes or corners, which means the AI guys can be really fast around certain circuits even on a very low difficulty setting)
· The simplicity of the endurance mode (1st motorbike game to have one so whatever, no multiclass racing!)
· How non-dark the darkest of places are (you can run around on a racebike without lights at 3:00 no problem)
I hope Ride 5 keeps the core mechanics, readjusts the career mode (it's over 500 races long), expands on the endurance mode and has a better vehicle selection
I'm actually starting to agree with my dad when he said "y'know, I actually regret wasting £50 on an incomplete game"
I wasted 100€ on this game 🤦
The issue is that companies took "live service" to mean "release an incomplete game and complete it late"
Live services suck honestely
And now sega is trying to make the "super game"
"No dude its not live service its completely different"
@@valletas it's good that they're trying to keep the servers alive (especially on older games) with live services but seriously the always online requirements sucks as hell
Where is the "service" part in live service
Complete WHAT later?
CP2077? Yes.
GT7? No.
GT7 is my favorite GT game of all times. I absolutely love it. I still have GT5, 6, Sport and now 7. I Love them all.
@@scuckplexity Everything about live service games is not good it's inherently anti consumer all the way.
GT7 honestly just feels like an expansion to GT Sport, the fact that most of the UI are practically the same just adds into that argument
I be telling people this all the time lmao gt7 is not a new game just an updated gt sport lmao
@@lancecardinal5399 ikr lmao it's just gt sport 2.0 lmao it's so hilarious lmao
That's an insult to how good the menu design was in GTS
GT7 feels like the worst of both sides of the franchise
Having it billed as a "return to form" and the classic Gran Turismo formula returning, I feel pretty betrayed by it to be honest.
Replacing the old formula with the cafe was one of the worst decisions in game design I've seen in a lot time. The cafe itself is actually quite a nice feature. It should've been an optional side thing where you had all menus unlocked from the get go, and as you collected cars naturally yourself, you began to fill in the menus.
Having the races be track based and not event based (Sunday cup with 3 races, Clubman Cup with 3, Turbo/NA etc) was also a terrible idea.
The way they've constructed the dealerships also feels like it's been intentionally restricted for no reason other than encourage FOMO. Why can't I go into the brand central and look at their legendary cars in the way you could in GT4? I loved seeing all the special cars that were in the game, and wondered how did you win them.
Speaking of which, something I've not really seen anyway talk about, but I absolutely hate the fact they showed you the prize car before you even started the race. One of the things I found most exciting in the old GT games was seeing what prize car was awaiting you once you won all the races in the event.
I simply cannot fathom the people defending this game who claim to have played the older GT games. GT7 is something that had the potential to be great if their first objective was to make a great game, but it wasn't. It's first objective was to make the game just good enough to get players to tolerate it while tweaking everything to encourage the purchase of microtransactions ever so slightly wherever possible at the expense of the enjoyment of the game.
Modern gaming has really left me feeling disillusioned with my lifelong hobby.
Well don't think about quitting games yet they can still fix it and it's fun for me
Thank you for so much for this comment! I've not played the game yet as I was going to just wait and see if they would patch in a proper "offline" mode down the track. That and I was still trying to get my hands on the ever elusive PS5 to begin with.
I'm not even going to bother now as I completely agree with the points you raised in your comment. Things like the prize car no longer being revealed as a surprise at the end, or that races are just categorised by track and not into events. They are such small things but it's what makes me treasure the Classic GT games.
I think with the direction the series has headed I'll just be content with having fun playing GT 6 on my PS3 and no longer dwelling on it. If I'm lucky enough to see a future return to form than that will be a bonus.
Nail on the head.
They removed the freedom of player choice with cafe garbage. Collect these 3 cars you dont want. Do that again 20 times.
Imagine if they didnt waste their development time on this. The campaign could of actually had a decent amount of events and not feel like a rushed afterthought.
World circuits is an absolute uncoherent mess. Menu layout makes no sense at all.
Secret prize cars were a staple motivator in completing the game.
Now you have intentionally rigged daily roulettes with crap prizes. And sport mode filled with bop races.
Very sad that more than 50% of the cars is a race variant or some retarded ass vision concept thing.
Also i miss the 20 variants of the same cars. I want the s4 rx7 infini without the turbo. Not the s5 rx7 gtx savannah.
Alot of things that made GT unique have died over each release.
Gran turismo 7 disappointed me so much I whipped out my old PS3 and began playing GT6
Can’t stand people defending it either, we had so many great games in gt6. All the bmw’s, audi’s, mercs. Pages full of them in the store. Also the career mode i was playing it all night for days to finish it in cars like the v10 rs6. Way more fun game
GT7…personally felt hollow. It doesn’t feel as charming as the older titles. I miss having the endless amount of cars, even if they were duplicates. I miss the rock vibe that I got from the series. I miss how we could actually see our car being washed and repaired in GT5, etc.
It feels…sterile. Too sterile to the point it feels hollow. I hate being forced to collect cars; I don’t care about that, I just want to build my own car, my own race car.
I hate how every race is a catch mission, rather than a grid start. It’s so annoying, because by the time I’m 2nd place, 1st had already finished 3 minutes ago.
I want to be a race driver. Not a car collector who stores their cars in some warehouse only to never drive them again.
GT5 was the last good Gran Turismo game in the series. PERIOD.
@@left4speed519 It was the first GT that I bought when it launched in 2010. Loved the game very much. It’s easily one of the best games that I’ve played.
If they would make it an actual competition, including a Qualfying (it might be up to the Player If it's Just one flying lap or as much time as the Player want, like it was in GT4) to decide the Grid. I also miss plenty of 80's and 90's Cars.
@@Eden-vt8bx I spent so many hours in that game.
Its because those shitty simracing crybaby gonna complain if the game isnt focus on online only
I honestly can't fathom why they tried to reinvent the wheel here, the campaign system from 4 through 6 worked just fine.
But this? No Gr1 and 2 events? A general lack of events? A side system that's forced down your throat as the main objective? It makes the game feel as sparse and barebones as GT Sport.
They will get added later calm down
@@danielstokker They shouldn't need post-launch DLC to do something that was done just fine on the fucking PS2.
@@danielstokker people like you are why games companies keep pulling this shit!
If they made it like past games you would still be here complaining just like op
There is a Gr.2 Race coming up in the Nations Cup Test Season 3 in just over 1 weeks time.
I was so exited when gt7 came out that I bought it on launch. I didn’t enjoy the cafe it felt like something to get over with to get the full game. But after I completed it the game didn’t have much to offer.
What doesn’t it have that previous GT games have? The old GT mode is just in the World Circuits now reshuffled in structure a bit. All those races still require a certain license and certain class of car to race in. You can either buy the car necessary or tune ones you already have to race in them. You can do all the mission challenges which are unique and challenging and of course the circuit experiences. Just confused as to what this game is missing compared to the old GTs now.
@@niismo. god forbid the game has a vision to introduce car culture and history in a unique way as an added level of content. Don’t worry the races you want to use the cars you like in won’t disappear from existence. They’re still there and newer ones will be added over time.
@@sinan_3384
Well then said vision must have taken the wrong place in the game or may have just been executed incorrectly.
Because if introducing me to "car culture" is what this sorry excuse of a racing game is trying to do, then it's doing a terrible job in comparison to how other mediums do it.
I don't need a videogame in order to introduce me to "car culture." I have Jalopnik, Doug DeMuro, and the first 3 Fast and Furious films for that.
Gran Turismo is a videogame interpreted as a racing simulator, not a documentary or a school textbook. I want to drive and go fast, not read somebody's drivel and opinions about "car culture".
@@mitpoker7319 you’re angry that this game set out to do something you didn’t want it to do. If you’re not interested in being introduced to car culture then why buy this game? Make your own damn game or play another racing sim, there are several out there. Why get mad at a dev for having a vision of what THEY want for THEIR game and delivering on that?
@@sinan_3384
Ok... So it's a pile of dog matter that tries to introduce me to car culture. There... Did I get it right?
And as far as introductions to car culture go. (Which I've already been introduced, years before the first PlayStation even came out)
My point was that there are other mediums that do better justice to car culture rhetoric.
And I say this because the way this game tries to do it is vain, cringy, lame, and pathetic.
This game is rather an insult to car culture.
Car culture in this game is a vanity, rather than a supplement.
And as far as videogame racing sims go, Racing sims are not about car culture, kid. They're about driving and going fast, that's it. Everything else should come second. Otherwise, the consequence is what you get in Gt7, an unfinished pile of matter that lacks content.... and tries to introduce me to car culture.
This game is not a vision. It's a blindsight. A laughing-stock to racing sims. And someone's personal vanity project.
Totally agree with you, I feel it so tedious to have to press 20 loading menus to change anything or to go anywhere in the game, so outdated in that respect.
When you end up redownloading Project Cars 3 because it doesn’t take ages to collect cars and isn’t online service only, you know PD messed up
Its now more than 2 months after release, and we still cant even sell cars...
It’s mystifying how they still haven’t implemented a core feature in 2 months…
@@brawler5760 I think a great feature would be for an auction house where you can sell your car. Make an awesome livery, and let people fight to get it. Or have a specially tuned car. This would encourage people to use their livery making skills to make money. Or maybe make it able to set this car with its livery as a price of a race. The winner gets it.
This would certainly increase the fun of the game. I would go there every day to check out new auctions and look at whats interesting to me. Some people are bad at tuning or making liveries, so if they can win races, they now have another option to get a great car.
But right now? You cant even set filters for the used car market. I would like to filter out cars I already have and which are not availlable anymore.
@@danieldorn9989 Basically just take the auction house from the Forza series and put it into GT7… that’d be wonderful for real. Actually I have a much better idea, allow us to sell our cars on the used dealership.
Not being able to sell off cars right off of launch is probably my biggest WTF moment in this game. Especially when the devs are so uptight and prissy about economy. Economy... in a Gran Turismo game? Like, who the hell cares?
@@midnighttornado22 That’s my biggest WTF moment in any racing game.
Grinding for hours to unlock a car is not my thing tbh. By that point I will already get bored of the game and uninstall.
Honestly, the biggest shortcoming and what scared me off from buying GT7 was how it felt like it didn't recapture what made past titles like 4 good: making the game a celebration of cars and driving, instead of being an okay online focused racer with mediocre singleplayer content.
Also, considering how Polyphony supported online in past titles, I'm scared for when it shuts down.
be scared for gt sport 😂 they are ignoring it more than rockstar does with red dead
The game feels so soulless. Any little throwback to past games just feels like it's there to shut the old fans up. Though I like a lot of the customisation for sure, the widebody, the upgrade parts, I also like the car selection. I think PD has this vision for GT to be this grand racing experience with the glamour and class that is portrayed on TV with F1 and Le Mans etc. It's really hard to explain what I mean, but the whole cafe thing, the jingle when winning a prize car, the midi classical-jazz remixes, getting Lewis Hamilton to play the opening theme. There's just this air of pretentiousness that I feel when playing this game. Older GT games just had this amazing playful vibe, they were absolutely full of charm and they seemed to have a rhythm to them. The menus, the music, the noises when selecting or deselecting, the art direction, they just had this amazing flow to them that hasn't been replicated since GT5. I guess I'm really just disappointed about the vibe and feel of the game more than anything, which isn't really fair. I think the correct term for the past 3 releases would be masturbat0ry, and self-absorbed. It's unfortunate.
takemi
Agreed. The vibes that GT2 and GT3 give are a masterclass in gaming.
@@mikew1277 lmao shut the fuck up, people are allowed to criticize media, especially against earlier works
I honestly miss the 90's industrial aesthetic of the first three games, especially with the PAL soundtracks. It added to the fun factor.
@@mikew1277 so I'm supposed to pretend every game is good because (often times) fraudulent companies spent millions to make them?
I got Gran Turismo 7 on launch. So excited to play it. I remember first booting into Simulation Mode as I still call it and was like, wait, "where are the licenses? where is the dealership?" then after I unlocked them I figured out what was going on. I have played every single game of GT and my disappointment was immeasurable when I found out GT Cafe wasn't a side thing, it was the whole game. I played for 2 days and never touched it again. I wanted a traditional GT game on the PS5. Not this linear experience. Don't get me started on the used and historic cars that are limited in stock and update every now and then :/
They are improving the game over time, so I'm confident the game will be in a much better spot some time from now. But I 100% don't blame you for quitting after just a couple of days. As said in the video, the game will be better in the future, but not many will stick around to witness it sadly. The first impression is very important for games. If a game doesn't convince you from the get go, then usually the majority of the player base drops the game and never touches it again, regardless of future updates that are supposed to improve the game.
I can kinda live with all the other "bad" things mentioned in the video, but not having the freedom based career mode like in the older games was definitely devastating to see. The linear menu book progression was the single worst thing a GT game has ever done in 25 years, and I really hope that GT8 goes back to the old career mode style. I'm still playing GT7, simply because it's GT, but it definitely has a lot of wasted potential.
You stopped playing 2 months ago and are still watching videos about it?
@@dadclips Um, no. It popped up in my recommended lol.
Bro I thought the cafe was a tutorial until the credits rolled….
I played it twice as well over two weekends. I thought this game was going to be a winner, so much so I bought the Logitech wheel. I haven't touched either in over a month.
I felt as if I just paid $60 dollars to give me access to the online game. Should i, for whatever reason, not have internet connection or if I don't also pay for PlayStation plus, I cannot play 99% of the game for which I already paid $60.
Doubtful I'll ever buy the next version of this game.
My biggest gaming regret... buying this game! You notice that you do not even need to do licenses? You used to have to do them to enter certain races! Now they are just there "to do if you want"
In my personal opinion, I think the lack of content is what makes the game feel rather shallow, as if after you complete the entire cafe, you only are left with doing races, license test, and missions, which can all be completed in a week or two. Granted, we just got a update that adds 3 new cars, and another event, however I feel like we need more instead of less. GT7 is a great game, and I'm having my fun with it, however it's important to talk about the flaws of the game, instead of trying to go right over them.
Lack of content
427 cars plus more added already
60 plus tracks
License tests
Online racing lobby
Daily races
Championships
Tuning
Scapes
And more...seriously
@@nevvanclarke9225 and Gran Turismo 6 had
1200+ cars
86 tracks (it even had the moon)
license tests
an online lobby
tuning
championships
a camera mode
all on the Ps3, Gran turismo 4 had 700+ cars, 51 tracks (technically more because most of the 51 tracks had reverse layouts), championships, one of the earliest forms of photomode and it ran at 1080p on the ps2. If polyphony can do all of that on a ps2 console they could definitely have a 1600+ car list with a 100+ track list with the ps5s capabilities.
Gt7 is missing over 854 cars and over 20 tracks and layouts, without the alternate layouts gt7 has only 35 different tracks
these numbers should be going up not down, they also didn't have to completely change deep forest and trial mountain and could've at least included the older layouts like how gt4 had the 80s, 90, and 00s layouts of fuji, they completely butchered the ford gt lm race car spec II while forgetting to add other dtm cars for the Alfa Romeo 155 dtm to compete with. so far they have only added 6 cars in 2 months and this trend of incomplete games getting released needs to stopped, nobody wanted the gt cafe to be the career mode of gt7, all we can do really now is to have better hopes for gran turismo 8
Worst part for me is the DRM
Man i can ignore the agressive griding and monetization but please just let me play the thing that I OWN
I refuse to play any game with DRM because i know that less then 5% games with DRM gets an update that removes it
All others die
Forza horizon 5 can be played both offline and online And also they listen to the community feedback unless your an Xbox user
DRM is not inherently bad. Things like Denuvo are DRM gone wrong, but DRM itself is perfectly fine.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN no dude i dont think you know what drm is because EVERY drm is like denuvo
What you are thinking about is anti piracy with im ok with but DRM by definition makes the game unplayable without an internet connection regardless if it is denuvo or anything else
And people said this was the spiritual successor to GT4...
GT Sport was legit just GT7 prologue
Honestly i was very excited when this Game came out, after the State of Play presentation i felt really hyped about this Game and what it could have been, i bought on Day 1 (Actually 2) for my PS4 (Yeah, i don't have a PS5 and for the moment that Console doesn't truly catch my attention), i putted the Disc, i was truly very happy to finally see a Gran Turismo Intro with Moon Over The Castle for the very first time worldwide and after i started playing the Game... It didn't feel right, the "Career Mode" felt kinda empty and extremely short compared to other GT Games (Even GT1 & GT Sport's GT League are even Longer than this attempt of GT Mode), i was just doing races and getting Cars, it took me less than a month to finish this crap, after that the only thing left to do was grinding and get cars, at first with the troublematic economy from versions 1.07 to 1.09 was really a pain in the ass to grind credits just to get the Car you want, also the lack of events make this problem even worse since now you have to grind and grind the same race over and over again just to get like 50k Credits per race, luckily 1.11 came and it pretty much improved the economy and with the addition of endurance events like the 30 Minute Circuit de la Sarthe Gr. 4 Event (Which is my favorite) that gives you 550k Cr or even 800k Cr if you do a clean race and now in 1.13 the 1 Hour Spa Francorchamps Gr. 3 Event that gives you 1M Cr really helped with the in-game economy, because of that i don't see the pay to win thing truly as the biggest problem anymore, now the true big issue is the pretty much Barebones State the Game is at the moment and the lack of stuff to do in the Game and the lack of race events for you to take advantage of your Garage, truly we URGENTLY need Gr. 1 and Gr. 2 Race Events since there are literally NOTHING at the moment, and also more races that involve Normal Cars that have Standing Grids, since at the moment we only have 2 of them that are from the Clubman Cup Plus Race Events, and i truly want to see more of them.
A lot of expensive cars don't have any use, I take the opportunity to buy all the invitation cars in grand central but no one can be used in events unless you detuned
@@javsRFX Hopefully the Updates can change that, which in a way it sucks
100% agree with you. I always felt the heart of the GT games was how unique each playthrough was. We all had an incentive to talk about our playthrough from each of the games because it was always different. Now, it's barely unique. combined with it's clusterfuck race menu and forcing online only. I was so annoyed I was going to trade it in and get at least some of my money back.
Feels like there are no major developers that give a shit about the art form anymore. Just about how the user can be exploited.
I was so disappointed with this.
Thank fuck Elden Ring was good lol
Damn. I have been following GT7's release out of genuine curiosity, and I was looking for a fan's perspective. This just feels like they missed the mark in meaningful ways. Great video.
I've been playing GT from day one. Still own my original ps1 copy. The game is fine. GT7 is consistent with past entries, if not the best of the bunch. It mostly feels like the character of gamers in general has gotten worse more than anything...
@@ReallyRealColby how exactly is forcing people to do GT cafe better than the open nature of license tests and various championships in the previous games? locking cars behind a realtime timer? I still like this game but you can't ignore the obvious flaws. I really hope they make GT8 a TRUE return to basics. One more thing that's specific to me is that i preferred the music of the previous games, GT3 and GT5 being my favourites. I don't think classical fits very well.
Nail on the head with this one. Campaign is is like a giant tutorial forcing only certain cars to be played👎 and the used car dealership selection is a waste of ram it's useless especially considering that brand central only sells cars made past 2001 the used car dealership was a huge flop this game disappointed on so many levels. Upgrade your car to the max and lose all reasonable control regardless of different tune setups cause uea that's how it is irl why else trick a car out if not to lose all drivability
Making this a live service has ruined the game. I am mad I bought the $90 collectors edition. Make no mistake, I love the actual gameplay, but hate the presentation. The game as a service should have been free to play.
That's how I feel about it, too-- hope that came across. It's like they poured dirt on top of a gourmet meal.
And with the truly disgusting state of the ingame economy, charging anything for the base game is an insult
$90 well spent, to my mind. The Cafe is a lot more charming and engaging than the career progression in GT6 or Sport ever was. Remember how they literally tacked that on because there was such an uproar? The Cafe blows that out if the water...
@@VeraTheTabbynx tbf the new in-game economies is already much better than it was before. And with how much money you get from the circuit experience, it's now a lot more rewarding than it uses to be. But yeah they need to up the credit on sport mode and custom races too
@@scuckplexity AND vastly up the amount of money buying the microtransactions gets.
I'm surprised nobody talks about this, considering the fact the Mclaren F1 is still $185 IRL USD.
For me the most disappointing part is the Sport mode. I expected to have a wider variety of online races with the road cars, tuning, formula cars, Gr1 cars, whatever...
But its still the same Gr3/Gr4 lago maggiore/red bull ring all over again.
Also they could at least give use one ot 2 karting tracks if they decide to add karts..
To be fair Maggiore is fantastic and one of the best circuits of the series. It's so damn good, but I do agree that it sure comes up alot in Sport
@@icecreampimpdeux it is in fact one of my top 5 fav tracks, but still its only a few cars that are being used. I wish i could use any of my tuned road cars in any ranked online race. And not a private lobby one, im good without Tomahawks in my race
@@gudgejm same here Dailies need a tuning race
I want more race types in sport mode , especially a few more fun type races , yet if they do that some lobbies will be lacking players. Im not sure how many players play online at any given time , but from what i see on the lobbies most ppl wanna race 800pp and higher or just gr3. When i enter the 'Meeting Place' its the same thing, majority are just testing the fastest cars possible or some gr3 vehicle.
@@thefourfourfour9512 Meeting Places are the best though, it's fun to cruise and race on the fly with others
The real shame with modern gaming is that I don’t think the industry as a whole will ever be what our generation wants it to be based on the games we used to love growing up.
The entire industry is very different now and I see it all continuing in the same vain from here on.
On thing which made games great in years gone by is that companies couldn’t get away with releasing fluffed out or unfinished content like they can now.
In the past we got complete, well made, big free games that were entirely on disk because that was the best tech available and if companies wanted us to come back for the next one the whole game had to be spot on from its release.
I haven’t yet played GT7 but I adore the previousGT games 1-4 in particular and I’m a stickler for linear games (with enough agency to feel in control) that have proper hard progression systems.
I think what we’re (or at least I’m) finding is that games now are either too linear or far too open, lacking balance.
My particular gripe if I could narrow it to one point is the abundance of games in this generation which prioritise quantity over quality (I can’t really speak for gt7 as I haven’t played it yet) but your pints seem to make perfect sense.
For me the last 2/3 forza titles have been steps backwards, Dying light 2 for me is the worst offender of all (sorry for going off topic a little).
Dying light 2 is the complete embodiment of what’s wrong with games today: coma inducing story, massive and pretty but completely copy pasted and lifeless world/ map, rushed physics, buggy as hell, generic badly paced progression which promises agency but is ultimately linear and generic.
Side note: the reason why Gt7 looks better in motion than Gt Sport, is because Gt7 uses a sort of motion blur that looks very realistic.
even as someone whos never played another gt game, i thought the cafe was a tutorial until it hit me like two hours into the game
Playing GT3 and GT4 just shows how inferior GT7 feels. No manufacturer events, no endurance races. Its all about collecting cars not racing. Not to mention how this game forces gt cafe rather than having a proper career!!
I didn't even click on the GT cafe after I finished all the menu books
I feel the same about the "collecting cars not racing" statement.
Don't get me wrong, the driving model is great, and I'm having quite a lot of fun racing and driving around, but the entire campaign is doing the menu books, which force you to do races just to collect cars.
There's also a book of all the cars you collected and you cannot sell cars (you can only delete them, and only when you have more than 1 of the same car)
Then the game gets boring
cant start a new game
No new events No more Tournaments
only online races terrible dealerships
hope u have unlimited internet access
I haven't purchased GT7 since I'm currently studying abroad and was planning to buy GT7 when I get home or if I get a playstation if I'm extending my stay here - but given the feedback from the players on discord servers I usually hang out with, I have my reservations on the game itself especially the FOMO elements, roulette tickets, and microtransactions. Almost daily that people complained about the rigged roulette tickets for a while.
I appreciate the honesty on this video, and this does add more to my reservations on this game. This is not the GT game I anticipated. Maybe if it were to be improved in the future is when I'd consider purchasing it, but for now, I'll just observe and watch others play.
You should tweet this right at them. I feel exactly like you do, with one additional gripe: I've been playing sport, I thought I was in the loop, but I saw ZERO advertising and so missed the pre order cars without having a chance to even choose.
I hated having to play this game the way the devs wanted me to play it rather than the way *I* wanted to play it
GT Sport is a way better game than GT7 for me.
The fact that GT Sport looks visually better and plays better than GT7 makes zero sense.
I did comparisons, and some tracks have more detail on GT Sport on PS4 than GT7 on PS5!!!
I actually went back to GT Sport on PS4 and sold my copy of GT7 on PS5.
I also hated the new physics in GT7 and in cockpit wobble was super annoying.
This game has honestly been so confusing to me. I genuinely love it, i loved sport, but yet like its put here theres just an overarching feeling of knowing that this isnt the game that i expected. Whether that be despite its claims that its a traditional game, its quite far from it, or things that are just. Shockingly absent. why cant i change a single setting in online lobbies without leaving and making a completely new one?? When we already had theses systems in place in gt sport?? Or things like the performance point system and tuning being unbelievably unbalanced. Stuff like that is what makes me upset about this game.
The cafe that is the main story quest is so boring and repetitive. Can’t believe PD made that the main story quest.
This is what happens when development teams are rushed to push out a product on a tight deadline with never ending media pushing them to go faster
I always thought the used car dealership should be cars that other players have sold tbh. It would be like a trade system but not and maybe allow you to sell things to players directly. It's also a way players could help their friends as you can sell a car they want and since it's used the price would be lower.
This is the best take I’ve seen on this! As a non competitive player who was mostly here for the fun of offline progression and collecting, nothing they are going to be able to change post launch can save it for me.
I’ll still play it because I’m so hungry for GT content and it’s more up my alley than sport (and about equal to 6 with better graphics). But i won’t be returning to it for years as I hoped.
To me the big issue with GT7 is the prize-money-to-car-price ratio. I started the game on the licence tests and won a bunch of cars there, and have almost gone through the entire game with only purchasing a single car at a dealership, yet I never seem to actually be earning money, or at least I'm earning it at a very slow rate. I find myself spending equal-to and sometimes more money on tuning cars for particular events to meet requirements and be competitive than what the payouts offer, and this is even with me being sensible by just using the closest car to the PP target I have instead of wild 'dream builds', and again let me remind you that I've gone through the game with only purchasing a car with my own credits once.
It's just a constant grind, and I'm often having to repeat events twice just to be making a profit which gets boring. It's so obvious that they're trying to force players into spending money on microtransactions, and on top of that, the microtransactions are ludicrously expensive in proportion to the price of some of the most expensive cars in the game; the top most expensive cars in the game are worth almost an entire 9-hour's day wages for me, not that pay-2-win should be encouraged anyway. 9 hours of sweat, labour, and exhaustion is apparently worth the same as an imaginary car lmao. It's like their target audience is NFT bros with more money than sense.
It's funny and sad. I didn't even have high expectations of GT7 and was almost going to pass on buying it, but brought it under the impression that it was going back to it's roots. Unless Polyphony does a spectacular U-turn, I 100% won't be buying GT8, and I've owned every GT.
The biggest problem with the economy is that you can’t sell your cars…
Completely agree. I felt like the cafe was just a tutorial and it was going to end at any time.
I was wrong.
I have genuinely loved GT7. It shockingly may be one of my favorite games this year, and that's in spite of the areas where it stumbles. IDK if it's just me, but the amount of content and attention to detail in the racing/weather system is genuinely impressive. I guess it all depends on your thoughts on Cafe; which I absolutely love! Plus it's a much more efficient way to teach newcomers how to race and tune properly (hence the early pacing issues for vets alongside the missions/license objectives taking a lil bit of time to open up).
I’ve enjoyed it as well, people will whine about any little thing that doesn’t do exactly how a previous game did it.
how much are they paying you?
@@piworower nothing. I genuinely just enjoy the game. I also work remote so it’s perfect when me and a few friends want to get a few races in!
I actually wondering if Grid Legends finally can get some attention, since people were hyped more into GT7 and leaving Grid Legends into dust. I heard that Grid Legends seems to be an upgrade from Grid 2019 which makes it much better
They should have delayed it a month for it to have sold better tbh
Grid legends is pretty fun tbh I just hate that it causes hard crashes to my Xbox series X
@@hawken796 Maybe a couple of months, since people might still stick into GT7 anyway
@@lucarioaustin13 Ow, that's a bit hurt
@@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898 ?
Sidenote: GT7 has a roughly 1 to 2 frame buffer to create the better visuals and that is what creates the "smooth" gameplay at the cost of... roughly 1 to 2 frames of input delay that you barely notice for the most part.
that’s really interesting, explains a lot.
its called motion blur...
@@dolbyprologicii Correct, one of the post processing effects that uses buffering is motion blur, and its been quite popular with the controversial slider in horizon 5 and whatnot, however there are also other composting effects that use buffering (its why DLSS has better frame times with more pre-rendered frames, and it's how SLI works in the first place).
TLDR advanced reflections and fullscreen effects also use buffering.
@@dolbyprologicii framebuffer is not the same as motion blur.
So it's like GT6 forcing you to buy a Honda Fit, but it's the whole single player campaign and not a first car tutorial then?
GT5 still the KING 🤴
I think pretty much everybody misunderstood GT Café would be just side content next to proper GT Mode. The pre-release marketing was very... unclear, to put it mildly.
Online updates/microtransactions have become the ultimate excuse for game developers to release unfinished & uncompleted games every year, & polyphony digital has proven no different.
There is no excuse for a game that took nearly a decade to release after 6 to have as little content as it does.
Who's to say that the cars we're still waiting on in the legends & used car dealership aren't just unreleased free dlc that they haven't gotten programmed yet?
i agree with this. i loved being able to build up in my own way from nothing. didn't like how in gt6 you had to buy a honda fit at the start though at least you had freedom after that.
something else which i would say is a more personal problem, is actually something a lot of people have criticised gran turismo for over the years. if you look at the car list of gt7, there are 4 nissan skylines, that being 1 r32, r33 amd r34, as well as a 1970 skyline. gt6 has 10 r32s alone. each one has a similar body but slightly different stats. you get a lower end model, a facelift, a high end, a touring car even. and theres something about that which adds to the immersion of a used car dealership. maybe its just me but i like seeing lots of variants of the same model.
gran turismo has always been a celebration of the auto industry, as opposed to forza horizon which is a celebration of car culture (both are great in their own ways). and so seeing base models and facelifts is a part of that industry i'd like to be able to virtually experience? i dont know. i get that it was kind of filler for the numbers game of car lists but i liked it
it's a good game with the only catchphrase being "it could've been better"
We are almost two months into GT7 and truthfully the game feels a little boring now. Once you complete Café all that’s left is to grind money for the used and legendary cars. It’s lacking something, we need things to go back to the way they were as described in this video. We need a proper career mode with race categories ranging from beginner to professional. More cars, tracks etc…
I’ve been saying for awhile that GT7 would be an easy game to get right. Take all the best parts of the past games and bring them into the modern era, that’s all, not complicated. The fact that Kaz saw the contestants at Nations Cup playing old games like GT3 should have told him everything he needed to know.
Oh boy. This will be worth the watch (writing before the video drops, will edit after I watch)
I 100% agree with you regarding Menu Books, it felt like I am being forced. I also thought that they were side quests.
GT7 shoves so many prize cars down your throat you barely get any sense of progression or ownership...
While also continuously pushing rarer cars out of your reach and into a rotation because you didn’t get enough money fast enough.
The patches are slowly fixing the game tbh
All these games drip-feeding content and demanding full payment from start are simply infuriating. Then devs coming on with their BS about how to game will 'grow' into something they envisioned is just pathetic.
It's quite sad.
At this point everyone who considers to buy GT7 should wait until its life cycle (content update wise). This dripfeeding of the cars and races drag so much even Sport felt more thought out in its career. Im sure you're able to pick up GT7 for a good price until then.
the most hated things that makes me don't really want to play GT7 is the handling right not, i really loved the balance under and oversteer handling of GT5, GT6 then GT sport changed it up a bit, but still acceptable, but GT7 handling is just pure garbage even after the rear wheel drive car handling patch, they still feels like spinning everytime with no confidence to turn properly
Looks like a upscaled PS3 game
Normally I’m not uptight on graphics and fidelity, but yeah GT Sport and GT7 just look so outdated… and it’s incredibly obvious when you look past the motion blur.
@@brawler5760 yeah defo agree on that. I will give it credit for having amazing car models which are top notch but everything else I'm not impressed. The sunlight just feels like they turned up bloom to 100 percent
@@lordadz1615 Oh certainly, the car models just look amazing. But… Grid Legends has equally amazing looking cars, and better environments. GT7 again just looks insanely flat…
Yeah, it doesn't look like a next gen game. Really disappointing.
Gran Turismo 6 was "live service" enough for me. I just want it back, with the regular events and content drops. That game felt like a love letter and I might be outspoken but I do feel like it was the pinnacle of the series, despite also being the foot stepping off the edge of the cliff into microtransaction hell.
Honestly, GT7 makes me rethink how is our gaming culture and behaviours changed. Feels like the game did follow its roots but maybe we are the ones who changed, so feeling disatisfied? Nowadays we are so thirsty for content, and want everything at a snap of our fingers, due to social media and technology. True art takes time to polish but we just tend to lose our patients easily. Anyway, looking forward to this.
@@beegdawg i think that's because most of the people demand games in the highest graphical quality as possible, and gt7 + forza horizon 5 are not an exception, because imagine how much of the details would have the devs to fix in the most complex meshes, and how long would these things even take to fix
Truth is, gaming has evolved in a lucrative business, like many entertainment businesses in history, this is nothing new. The graphics are not the problem, the gamers' demands are not the problem either, the real problem is that gaming went from a niche market for enthusiasts to a money machine. It blows my mind that some people actually think gamers can change the state of things. Yes, they might be able to with smaller developers, but triple A games are doomed to go down this path, because no matter how much a small portion of the players complains, the majority will always be buying it. Luckily Gran Turismo might actually have a chance since this portion is way bigger, but games like FIFA are doomed to stay money machines, hyped up before release, announcing features, and bla bla bla. I wouldn't say the gamers are to blame, it's just the business model that evolved and now prevails.
GT7 is the least happy I've been with a game in the greater part of a decade.
- Old GT games had a lot of unique and interesting events with all sorts of requirements. Half of GT7 is copy pasted "WTC 700" or "WTC 800" events with no real use.
The game has Gr.2 and Gr.1 class cars and you can't use them in any sort of single player content. You spend the equivalent of 10 dollars on an in-game car that you can only use in Time Trials or custom races that aren't rewarding in the slightest. GT4 had all sorts of events where you'd use an extremely specific car you'd never use other wise to win something unique, like the Blue Mica Subaru 360 or the Nike 2022 or that one sport Silverado.
- GT7 also has a godawful line up of cars, where you're forced to use the most famous cars in the world, with very few interesting "oddball" choices like the dozens of obscure kei cars in GT4 and GT5 and the lower end cars that you'd use a lot in GT1 and GT2. I've been playing racing games for my entire life, I'm kind of tired of driving Skylines.
- The roulette system is a joke. A literal joke. I can almost hear Kaz laughing every time you land on the 5,000cr. That, or you get parts for a car you literally DO NOT OWN, CANNOT OWN, AND WILL PROBABLY NEVER OWN. I would really like for there to be a community crowdsourced effort to find the odds of getting anything other than the worst gift every single time. If GT7 was a person, GT7 would be one of the most punchable people I've ever met.
GT7 just feels like Sport again, with no real effort put into the single player content. I regret purchasing the game and I feel utterly insulted.
Welcome to the future of gaming, folks. It's only going to get worse from now on. The game isn't going to improve. It's going to remain the same soulless husk it launched as. I wasn't born yesterday.
Forza Motorsport and especially the horizon series are getting better and better with each new entry but horizon 5 is slowly losing players bc it’s getting stale already and forza horizon franchise Will reach its 10th anniversary this year maybe playground games will remaster the first horizon game on Xbox series xs upscale
@@kevingame3198 FH5 was a broken mess at launch and I don't think they ever fixed half of it. That, and they got screwed over by Stellantis and lost a ton of cars they otherwise could've used.
@@MarikoRawralton I’d rather play that than this right now. At least engine swaps aren’t locked behind a roulette wheel.
@@brawler5760 Both games are in a bad state imo, and I've dropped them both completely cuz I wasn't enjoying them for a second.
I'm harsher toward GT7 cuz I waited a decade for it and that initial reveal trailer turned out to be nothing but nostalgia baiting bullshit.
I don't agree with everything you said but this is a well thought out and objective analysis. I like GT7 but I'm disappointed in what it delivered. My biggest disappointment is the AI. We were promised this amazing learning AI (or that's how they made it sound). In reality the AI is slightly better than GTS but it is still fairly stupid. With the always on DRM I foolishly thought maybe they'd be doing something interesting like AI run in the cloud that would learn from what I did with it. Nope.
That AI was never promised to be in the game at release, if at all. It's still very much a work in progress.
@@somat111 It was not promised explicitly but much was implied. All I can see the AI learned in the game now is brake checking, blocking, and dive bombing. Don't get me wrong as I do enjoy the game. I'm just disappointed.
@@somat111 A work in progress? They've had AI since GT1, no excuses.
@@DavidRSAT We're talking about the unbeatable SOPHY AI that needs to be trained per track, not the regular AI.
The nemesis system in Grid 2019 and Legends does the AI more justice…
Utter disappointment, no offline enabled unlike GT6. Meaning that Gran Trashismo 7 is just a mere demo racing game when support expired.
Enjoying your review as usual. I just wanted to say that I’m sorry you have to deal with people saying things are clickbait or insisting you not talk about completely legitimate issues. I’ve been playing GT since 1998 (started with a Japanese import and the license tests were not easy when I couldn’t read the directions) and have since purchased 1-6, Sport and 7 as well as multiple GT branded wheels, but honestly my experience with Sony and PD on 7 was so negative that I stopped buying Sony products entirely for a bit.
GT7 was the first game from Sony I ever tried to return - and the first game of any kind I ever tried to return since the early to mid-90s. I know you made the choice to avoid getting mired in microtransaction discussions and I totally respect that, but between their handling of that, the always online requirement and refusual to let players refund the game (I talked to a lot of their people over the phone) over the changes, outages, etc. it just really made it hard to feel good about playing the game.
25 years was a long time to really like a series - I hope they can course correct and make me want to come back again one day. In the meantime, I can still enjoy your review.
Your racing games playlist was great for lifting my spirits as a podcast when I listened to it on drives to and from the doctor to follow-up on a recent surgery. Keep up the great stuff and I hope you’re doing great with self-care. :)
Great editing as always, and loved the use of Ace Combat 3's soundtrack.
Guess I did not hear it.
if there's anything I noticed from the Gran Turismo series is that they rush a 1st game on a new Playstation console and fix and improve in the second,
example: GT1 and GT2 were both on the ps1, GT3 and GT4 were on the ps2, GT5 and GT6 were in the ps3 (correct me if GT6 was on ps4 or not)
and maybe GT7 could be improved on GT8 (if they're ever looking on making and sequel to GT7), the big thing I looked forward to in GT7 was different racing type's, when Kaz made the 1st game
he wanted to add different racing type's like Rally, Drag racing, even Derby and Banger racing but due to low storage he couldn't, in GT2 they had to rush the game and didn't have enough time to, and GT3 they abandoned that idea. I got really exited and nostalgic while playing the menu books but maybe just MAYBE they'll forget the menu book idea (in my opinion I hope they will).
Oh man that makes me sad knowing the game holds your hand this way.
Recently I've been replaying GT2 with the Plus mod as I was in this racing mood, and just experiencing the freedom and dealing with bad car investments is just a core fun thing.
I wasnt happy with games in general. I figured having a nice relaxing racing game would be nice and get me out of this messed up microtransaction gaming nightmare we live in.
Boy was I wrong. Seems that greed destroyed racing games too. The current state of gran turismo should be free. Not a 70 dollar game with little to no content. It has content for a mobile game. What a joke.
Try NFS Unbound on a sale. It’s a little light on content but it’s not full of micro transactions
@Kacey thanks man. Ill definitely try it when i get the money.
Yeah I agree, I'm very disappointed that they decided to make this game pay to win
i hate the ticket system. and im frustrated in how no ones talk about it so they'll probably never fix it for example people keep saying "rewards are shit is only engine swaps and random stuff"
but the "random" stuff you get are also exclusive parts you can't buy on the shop that gives you more hp / less weight etc, even for Gr3 cars for Sports. so even if 2 players build the same car buying every part from the tunning shop. if one player got lucky to get titanium / stage 5 / ultra parts, he will be in a unfair advantage.
also on the recent update they also added more engine swaps like the RB26 for the 180sx and BRZ FD engine for the Qs S13, yet locked on ticket system. there should've be a special shop exclusive for those parts that change daily at high price (for example 100k for a swap?) or something
for example there's Stage 5 weight reduction, Ultra RPM turbo, titanium parts and obviously the swaps all locked on the roulette only..
wait engine swaps are locked behind the fucking roulette system? you've gotta be fucking joking. I assumed the "new engine" things were just replacements instead of having to replace yours to make up for PP loss.
@@Kaceydotme yes, and so are many other special customisation options are locked behind the lootbox/roulette system indeed
This is actually unacceptable. I’ve seen this stuff in CarX Drift Racing 2 and I hate it there too.
As a longtime (since the beginning) GT fan.. this game did not live up to the hype. This series used to be the undisputed pinnacle of racing games (on console) and did not live up to that this time
this game is Literally a polished and finished GT Sport, so slapping the GT7 logo on it makes me feel like I'm paying for GT Sport +
Hear me out, gran turismo peaked at gt4, and not for the obvious reason
As gran turismo gets more realistic. The *game* we play gets worse.
Also, there’s a lot of Simracing out there and there’s definitely a market for having an intermediate choice between Simracing and Arcade racing. I think the more choices the better, it’s a shame that money is first priority and not a great product, because usually in any art entertainment, if the quality is good, money usually comes along and there’s different ways to earn than to funnel and manipulate your customer into buying more.
Facts
I really don't like the extremely rigid 3rd person camera of gran turismo games. Having the camera sway back and forth with the turning of the car feels so much better to me, and honestly helps me handle the car better as I can more easily see what's going on with the grip.
I don’t understand why people don’t talk about this enough. It’s absolutely dumb in GT7, especially since it follows the orientation of your car, which is evident if you flip your car upside down in the rally races.
Another comment. I spent months playing GT3 and GT4 games from launch as a kid. When I switched from the 360 to the PS3 for the first time and tried GT5, I was impressed. GT6 came out and while not much was new, nothing was hurt and it was still fun and felt somewhat true to the IP. Sport was very much comparable to FM5 to Forza or Horizon games to the Motorsport series. It tried and did cool things, but everything else about the game hurt and felt so wrong. I am seeing this game be like GT6, but hurting from the microtransactions that placed the cherry on top. Shame.
For me its that every race is a rolling start, and the AI is just a roadblock that you overtake. There is no personality to it.
Looking back at Racedriver: GRID, it was actually implemented that the AI is not perfect, and it does make mistakes, and you get that info over radio from your team. This gives it a feeling of immersion.
Remember when you could qualify for races? Like in actual real life races, how does GT keep finding ways to have less features
Honestly? I've enjoyed it a lot. I haven't picked up FH5 since I got GT7 and I'm not looking back with much regret.
Sure, the push to spend real money is the strongest it's ever been, but all in all, I have no trouble finding an hour long endurance race I can play solo and be challenged. I've never felt frustration on getting less than 1st place on long races, because they're still fun and challenging.
Would I love more money in game? Yeah! It sucks that there are a lot of cars that are unattainable currently.
Just like all games that come out now, there is a long tail for GT7 in terms of content, race series, and updates.
A year from now, all criticism will fall to deaf ears as they dial in the experience and optimize it for everyone.
Just a shame my G920 doesn't play nice with Playstation.
It'll be my daily go-to until the new Forza Motorsport drops, and I'm not going to be even remotely surprised when Forza has the same teething issues GT has currently.
I thought exactly the same thing as you did about the Café. It knocked me for a loop at first, and to be honest, I really don't like it. I resorted to purchasing another PS 3 (I sold my old one when I bought my ps 4 in 2014) just so I could play GT 6 again, just to experience the old Gran Turismo gameplay flow.
I don’t know.
I still think it has the pinnacle of the franchise…
…the game is only just over a month old, and we should be expecting a lot of future content…
…I really want to see opinions on GT7 in, say… a year. I really think there’s much more to come. All of our opinions so far are based on a proverbial ‘Chapter 1’ of this experience.
People: Games should not be released half-baked and require updates or even DLCs to get to the state it should be in at release!
Also people: Give GT7 one more year to improve!
Me: ...
the thing is, if we keep letting things like this slide, more unfinished games will appear that will use the same excuse. To be honest, I'd rather have a finished game day one, then they can release the DLCs if they wanted it to...
So guys, remember me from the trailers where I said it would all go to shit?
Y'all tried to diss me when I warned ya, but...
I warned ya :)
To be fair I agreed with everything you said. For me the most obnoxious part of GT7 is the way they try to pressurise you into spending money by shafting you on roulette, shafting you on earnings and then giving you invitations to buy multi million dollar cars which are on a timed basis and you cant afford. Although not to worry, you can spend real money on GT coins.....It's so obviously been geared towards getting you to spend more that I find it extremely offensive and obnoxious, I would never have expected that approach from polyphony. It feels like the love for Motorsport has vanished while being replaced by a love for higher profit margins. The soul is definitely missing from GT7. As far as the cafe is concerned, they should have treat it like a literal cafe where you could take a car your passionate about and essentially attend a coffee and cars where you could meet other people in game with their car, speaking over the mic through a proximity based system. Being able to chat or challenge people to races from the cafe would have been fun too but they really didn't think about it it feels like.
always online is the reason I will never buy this game. Cannot believe people are okay with not being able to play a SINGLEPLAYER game when servers are down for maintenance
It's like the designers at Polyphony were playing mmo's and figured they'd just cop their shitty online practices.
It’s funny because Kaz probably conceptualized the idea of these cafe books being the main way to progress, and then Sony greenlit it.
I was all ready to try and acquire a PS5 so I could play GT7, but now that it's come out and all the negative reception has been there, I think I'll just play something else. Shame, because GT is one of my favorite franchises, to the point where I adamantly defend the PSP version as being better than people think it is, but if this is how they treat their longtime fans, I don't think I'll be playing the newest entry.
Negative reception where? Lol this is the only clickbait video
I'm absolutely loving the game. I love the idea you actually have to play the game to earn cars etc. I believe gamers have become so lazy that they forgot what it's like to actually play a game to earn progress!
I really appreciate when there’s care put into a progression system, even as clinical as the term can sound. The general streamlining and standardization of progression in games is pretty heartbreaking to me, it’s usually done out of insecurity or fear players will quit, with online & service based games taking a lead, that seems to be more of s threat as time goes on. The fear of players quitting partway through is now influencing design deep into solo aspects of games.
GT7 could be great, but Polyphony was on EA mode and they greed messed up the game greatly
It was more Sony than Polyphony, I feel.
@@VikingArelius both, both are wrong.
It sucks that a great franchise like this one, but the coffee thing it’s just annoying and you cannot advance in the game , and the worst part is , it’s a live server game, thats why i returned my copy of GT7 and GT sports.
:(
The menu was ok, but it shouldn't have been the main focus. Some suggestions for the game:
- More tracks (starting with Grand Valley, Seattle and Midfield)
- Coop races
- Custom races with relevant rewards
- User generated content (design races and championships)
- More single player championships
- Partnership with WEC, DTM and other Japanese series with tracks and cars
- More Formule 1 tracks (starting with Imola, Hungaro Ring, and Albert Park)
- More Indy Car tracks (starting with Long Beach, Indianapolis, Ohio and Detroit)
- More WEC tracks (starting with Sebring, Hockenheim and Zolder)
Did I mention more tracks? All jokes aside I really enjoy GT7, but I can't ignore the fact the tracklist is barely expanded from Sport and that's a real shame. GT6 had a massive number of tracks. We need more class gt tracks and real world circuits to be added
FINALLY A REAL REVIEW OF THE SECOND WORST GAME IN THE FRANCHISE. EXTREMELY UNFINISHED. EVERY MAJOR REVIEWER LIED FOR SOME REASON AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MICROTRANSACTIONS. THE AI SUCKS, YOU DONT ACTUALLY RACE AT ALL. THERES NO NEW CONTENT FROM SPORT. NO NEW SPORTS CARS FROM THE PAST 5 YEARS. NO ONLINE LOBBY MANAGMENT, YOU CANT EVEN SCROLL DOWN YOUR TIME TRIAL TIMES. PD IS LAZY
Seriously though, I just wanted a good racing game for my ps5, gt7 just isn’t really good. Its the bare minimum for a “sequel” and they hadn’t fixed a single problem from the past 5 games, they just add around the problems and make new ones. The game feels as if it’s from a much smaller company
"Gran Turismo Café plays more like an overgrown tutorial than a fleshed out mode"
I couldn't have expressed my feelings towards the GT7 campaign better than this.
It’s not even a campaign at that point. It’s like The Division 2 where everything from the start of the game to taking over the White House from the True Sons and then D.C gets taken over by the Black Tusk, but in that game at least it’s rewarding and it’s SOME endgame content. There’s none here.
interesting that kaz mentions long term support of a game that requires internet to play its single player content. i wonder how long term those servers will be running for? my copy of gt1 still works just fine, im pretty sure gt7 will be a paperweight in 25 years
I thought evga's xr1 lite was a good deal at $70-80, but that ns120 giving high frame rate capture for 10-20 dollars more is a damn good deal.
No Seasonal nor Special Events from the previous GT games is a very huge disappointment.
As a returning player from GT5, I can confirm my 2 hour experience with the game is already awful
gt5?
people really shit on that one but I found it ok
gt4 is superior though. if you like gt5, 4 just does it all, and more, but better
it's upsetting that we won't get a game like the ps1, 2, or even ps3 entries with this high of a budget/fidelity in this current extremely profit driven landscape.
Hopefully like Sport, 7 would make vast improvements. I don't care for multiplayer, but it was great as a 7: prologue. It slowly got road cars i'm interested in.
Also I wanna know your thoughts on the handling. I didn't have a hard enough time in Sport as I did in 7. Maybe it's the braking.
I'm starting to feel like GT2, 3, and 4 could never be replicated again with how game develop is now. The technology obviously is there but no one either has or would devote the necessary resources to make masterful games like the classics. Also, the consumer base would buy anything now regardless of quality. Quite sad but atleast the past titles will always exist.
I don't like compact cars. It's a crazy idea that I'd be getting another Honda Fit like in GT6. Thankfully, there was the Mazda Demio among the three cars available, but I still hold that grudge. And about the penalty line system... I'm not going to cite it, it only makes me hurl by just thinking about it.
Odd when gaming companies release long extended demo.
This is the perfect example of @Act Man's "MoDeRn GaMiNg" meme....