I came across him with a high bounty once. After having the conversation with him a big group of bounty hunters came after me and the old soldier promptly got in a shootout with them. He went down but took a few of them with him. I picked off the stragglers. He got his anticipated battle at last. And then he respawned right back the next time I came through, still oblivious as to what year it was.
The final confrontation is strange because it seems like it should set up a resolution where you track down Muriel and bring her to this man to get him to come home.
@@tyr573 Apparently a lot of people didn't find him, so maybe it was cut when playtesting ? I know they removed an easter egg from Portal 2 because nobody found it (which became the ending)
It baffles me how neither Arthur nor John have tried to get through to him properly They could’ve said “sir, the war is over.. Union won, we’ve met multiple times and you’re out here stuck living the same day over and over, no one’s sending any message, it’s the year 1899 (1907 if you’re playing as John)” He’d probably be like “that’s ridiculous” “Look I can prove it, I’ve got a newspaper right here with the current date clearly stated” To which he’d probably either break down because he’s been out there so long or be ecstatic that the Union won and run home Or I guess more likely think it’s a trick and attempt to shoot you calling you a confederate spy or something
I'm thinking this guy has some form of long-term anterograde amnesia, he can't form new memories and reverts back to the same time after a day or so. So, even if you managed to convince him of his situation, in another day or two you'd find him back at the shack, standing guard, with no memory of the conversation you'd shared. It's downright terrifying if you think about it.
@@cheesydanishgaming3333 he has been at that post for 40 years and believes it has been a few weeks at most. what help is there? where would he go? what would he do? wake up in unfamiliar places repeatedly and wonder why he isnt at his post every time? the messed up truth is that the best thing you can do to help him at this point is make sure he has enough food (he might have had a huge stockpile that is now down to like 20 cans after 40 years of eating), bring him some supplies he might have been missing, and quietly pray that he never pays attention to his aging body. here he feels like he has a purpose and here he is as satisfied/happy as someone whose mind is stuck in april 14th 1862 can be. people similar to this exist irl and it is as heartbreaking as you might imagine.
and then you're in a time loop trying to convince him that the war is over and you've met before, and eventually you forget when you met, maybe you think you knew him, maybe he dies one day, ,and arthur grabs his clothes, and sits, waiting for dismissal polishing his shoes and rifle.@@cheesydanishgaming3333
People say theres no resolution, but there is a body at a burned out military camp with a wedding ring on it. No other encounter attached. I wonder if this is Muriel and he lost his mind when he found out. Thats why he cant move past April 14th, because after that he went home and Muriel died.
My guess is he has anterograde amnesia. It’s where your brain is unable to process new information, so his mind is permanently stuck on the day of April 14th 1862.
@@michaelmyers9825 Ain't snow supposed to be rare-non existent in a subtropical region like Luisiana? Even if there is snow, the guy would probs still rationalise it as "Well I've seen winters lasting until april so whatever"
Maybe for the same reason I did. The first time I came across the place it was locked up tight and no one outside. It was raining, so I assume this is why. 2nd time visiting was clear weather and he was outside.
This is historically accurate. This has happened to many soldiers on the frontier West in the Civil War. In fact, this has happened in most wars, WW2 even up to Vietnam.
@@calumzmemez5075 indeed. I read about a war veteran who had the same. He had to live in a mental hospital, and his doctor writes about how everyday, the veteran would greet him cheerfully like it's the first time they ever met. He strongly believed he was a young soldier, and when he saw his old self in the mirror he would freak out in horror. Every single day, same thing over and over.
Do you mean the amnesia part that most people seem to be assuming or thinking the war is still ongoing long after it's over? There is a crazy story about a Japanese guy who still thought they were fighting the US decades after it ended because he had just lived in the jungle as a hermit waiting for action.
If I was in Arthur’s position I would’ve come back and said general scollick has given word that the war is over, you can return home now, especially since he doesn’t remember who you are or telling you that general scollick exists
"Sir, the war is over, go home. Here's some proofs" "Oh dang, I better go back to my betrothed" **runs off** 1 day later, same place: "ARE YOU FROM THE UNION????" you know, I think killing him is the better ending for him.
I wish you could recruit him to fight the Lemoyne raiders. At least then he'd die knowing that he did his duty to take back the territory from johnny reb.
I always felt like it would fit with the tone of the game and the themes in most of the shacks and cabins if you went back there as John in the Epilogue and found a skellyton still sitting in his uniform and holding his rifle
Damn. I was lowkey getting into this like a TV show. I was hoping for a better/happier ending, and thought that Arthur was going to either finish the old man's repeated sentences to show him that they've met before, or show him a newspaper with the current date on it to prove that it isn't the year he thinks it is. It's sad to see the poor man imprisoned in his own mind, and wants to be free with his wife, but won't because he's too loyal and proud, and can't because he's just too lost, and unfortunately his wife may be too. Yet another insane detail by this masterpiece of a game. It really does hit different. ❤️🔥
@@urbansk8r231 You can improve a masterpiece with a larger company, more money and access to technological improvements that will be available in the next 10 years. I'm not saying rdr2 isn't a 10/10 game, I love it. But, it's foolish to look at Rockstar's trajectory and expect less out of the next one.
Did it, he just beat the hell out of me after I untied him and after I ran away he just started walking out of Saint Denis. I also looted him after and all he had was about 50 some cents 🤷
@@MrTruehoustonian Alright, did he lasso the guy on the 9 minute mark or did he actually do it in the first 2 minutes and found something else to draw out the video for 8 more minutes?
The most famous Japanese hold out was named Hiroo Onoda who maintained his post in the Philippines until 1972, almost 30 years after the war ended. He was found with a well maintained rilfe and several hand grenades. He had killed about a dozen Philippinos during his time in the jungle. Eventually a Japanese college student found him and spoke with him. The Japanese government had to fly in his old commanding officer who ordered him to stand down before Hiroo would abandon his post. There were a dozen or so other Japanese soldiers that surrendered in the late 60's and early 70's. In the 40's, 50's and 60's there were many thousands of soldiers that never surrendered until a ranking officer came to relieve them. Onoda wrote a book which is worth reading. It is this mindset, which only the Japanese possessed, that is part of the justification for using the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Those bombs saved lives, despite revisionist historians who want to apply a peace time morality to a total war scenario. Look no further than the losses at Okinawa and it's easy to see that the bombs saved American as well as Japanese lives. An invasion of mainland Japan would have cost several million Japanese civilian lives as well as 1 to 2 million Japanese military deaths. The absolute lowest estimate for the American deaths was 250k with some military estimates being over one million allied dead.
Always felt sorry for this guy. Clearly, some PTSD issues keep him there. There is so much trauma in war, and this game doesn't sugarcoat anything. Always hoped he'd run into some Lemoyne raiders and have one last good fight. I only had one encounter with him while I was out riding at night. Didn't know you could or should return. I did find a cigarette card somewhere in the outpost. Maybe it would be fitting to have him slowly dying when John visited, and he gave him two letters to mail. One to his bride and one to the general. This game is done so well. I hope they learn these lessons and apply them to GTA #6.
Reminds me of the Japanese soldier they discovered in 1974 on an island in the Pacific who thought the war was still on. He wouldn't surrender until they located his superior officer and brought him to confront the soldier.
sometimes I wish there was an ability to bring Captain Monroe to try and get this guy to go home. perhaps Monroe can try to get him to head home or see a doctor
this seems less like a man that could never accept the war was over, and more an old timer with dementia slipping back to his most prominent memory. it would explain why he never recognizes arthur
There was already an irl instance of a soldier like that and when he's seen the news of the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the empire surrendering and all that shit. The dude chalked it up to being bs/ Us propaganda to get him and his crew to surrender and kept fighting until the 70's
@@nctsgrass Not if he kept the newspaper. Then every time he laid eyes on on the front page again, he'd see the top story celebrating the Union's victory in big ol' print again...
Who in his own mind would want to kill that poor soul ??? The guy lost 37 years of this life by thinking he was doing his duty while NOBODY remembered him or having given an order to him. He lost his life, his mind, any chance of future... Why kill him ?
Been playing this game since 2018 yet I have NEVER seen this NPC before and I’ve found most of the obscure ones too. I always learn something new about this game.
Well I never even thought of harming him, killing is too far! Honestly I feel pity for guys like that. 😢 Good thing John can interact with him as well.
I remember that there's a cabin between grizzlies east and Annesburg. There i found corpse of woman(bones in costume), some letter about man who left her because of war and ring. I'm not sure exactly why man left her but i think there was something about war.
Since there was a lot of cut content, I'm sure there was a quest where you do find and bring a Union officer to tell him the war is long since over and that the Union won! Then you discover the man has mental issues and have him taken away to receive help.
I am guessing you didn’t fully explore the map because he isn’t hidden away, unlike the statues in a cave with their arms broken off. That one is one of the hardest locations to find. I can’t remember which play through I was on when I discovered that.
What do you do for hundreds of hours if you aren't exploring new stuff? I mean I get it, you can hunt a lot or something, but I've played maybe 50 hours and I haven't been surprised by any RUclips video or Reddit post about anything, I believe the only things I haven't personally seen in the game are the vampire and the UFO. The UFO is time sensitive so that's probably why, and I'm just putting off going after the vampire.
Reminds me of that Adam Sandler movie "50 first dates" where the girl he likes has some form of memory loss where she only remembers everything up until 1 specific day. But that begs the question... If the guy refuses to leave his post, how does he get food and water? There are no rations left most likely. Maybe his memory loss started on a day where he resupplies or something along those lines, if that's how the illness works., Regardless, it's the "open to interpretation" stuff that makes games like this shine just a little bit more. I just wish more stuff had closure.
There has been. Look up Hiroo Onada, a Japanese officer who didn't realise WW2 was over for 29 years. He was stationed in the Philippines with some other soldiers and they tried several things to get them to surrender, including dropping leaflets letting them know the war was over. They ended up having to send in his former commanding officer to give him official orders. He surrendered in 1974. It's an interesting story and well worth looking into.
I wonder if Captain Russell has dimensia or Alzheimers. His extremely wrong estimate of the year, as well as his inability to remember Arthur and John, make me think he isn't alright in the head. His dedication to duty has kept him in the same area all this time, yet he has no idea how long it's been.
Just fyi, he's wearing the wrong uniform for his rank, i believe he's wearing a union colonel uniform, so either he's crazy or stole a uniform (he did mention being a volunteer)
Sad there's no conclusion for him, though I feel he'd likely shoot himself over how his entire life was wasted due to his condition if he accepted the truth.
The level of detail that was put into this game never ceases to amaze me. All of this, for a random encounter that myself and no doubt a number of other players never came across!
I kind of wanted them both to finally get to him. Like, I know that with that sort of condition, it may not be worth it to try and explain to him the truth, but still. I would’ve liked for two extra encounters. One where the first guy says something like “Well, indeed I am! And it’s your lucky day soldier, we’re moving down and taking that town for ourselves!” Mission Started: Something worth remembering And then he’d lead him to the town, being very careful about it and showing him that none of the people there are from the other side of the war while explaining how the war went down. I also wish the other guy had a cutscene play where he slowly got off the horse and told the man to look at his hands and to look at his face. “You see that? That’s you, getting older!” The two would then argue back and forth before, finally, he shakes his head and heads back to his horse while the old man shouts for him to leave. “Guess some people will always be stuck in the past. Whether dead or alive. A shame, really.”
Damn it got different dialogue. That last convo got pop me in head. I encounter a cabin with a dead lady, ring and a letter. Never thought it has connection with that lone soldeir. Great detail their Rockstar.
You make me want to play this all over again. I missed out on a lot of NPC encounters because I was blowing them all away, some of them never had time to speak before I shot them dead. Serial killer Arthur.
I met him first as John and unfortunatelly killed him because I needed a weapon. (It was in the farm days when you don't have access to your equipment and I wanted to go exploring so I needed a rifle).
I’ve seen this man once as Arthur, another as John to see if he was still alive. He is. The crazy thing is, is how he didn’t notice any change in age, or how he didn’t at least have an idea of how long has passed. 1:19 ok, he probably just has dementia.
@@VL1975 I meant I’ve done all missions, side and main and seen the story out. I thought I’d seen all random encounters but apparently not. Granted I have never finished all quests (hunting etc). I’m on my 6th playthrough now, I’d rather replay it than continue way after the epilogue.
It’s odd how this guy constantly forgets what day it is or the last time you met him but he will always remember the exact army division he is and what his task was. Ironic.
It's a condition called anterograde amnesia - you remember everything up to a certain point, but lose the ability to form long term memories of anything later.
He's suffering from anterograde amnesia. He literally cannot form new memories, stuck reliving the same day over and over again. It's a terrifying condition since there's technically nothing wrong with him physically, he's just as capable as anyone else his age, heck, maybe even more capable since he's trying to maintain the same daily routine despite being advanced in age. Once his body starts to fail him it turns into a nightmare for him though... Constantly waking up in a body that won't work, still believing he's a young man with an important duty to fulfill, until eventually his body just fails completely.
His wife is dead. He's actually demented. If people took the time to understand time progress in this game and how these encounters evolve over encounters/chapters. I did own the RDR2 guide (physical book), sold it for a crazy price, but that book literally explained all these encounters. There's depth to these strangers. Showing different stages of the game. I have all this stuff recorded on my PS4. Like when the game is over for instance, you can go back to all the original camp locations and hear "voices" of the past. You'll hear memories of your time with the gang. Not once, no. Multiple times you can go back and hear different things. The amount of detail they have put in is absurd. There's a lot of these things. I'm just writing out of the top of my head and it's been a while since I touched story mode since I 100%'d it and left it. There wasn't anything to encounter. The guide even describes "more mysteries" while f.i. the Ghost train is a thing. I've never read about it but in my playthrough I suddenly encountered it.
I came across this guy while chasing the Silver Dapple Pinto Missouri Fox Trotter after doing the Arcadia for Amateurs III mission, what a coincidence lmao
That NPC character reminds me of the Japanese or Vietnamese character from the Archer tv show. The guy who was stuck in the jungle since the 1940s and Archer meets him in the jungle in the 1980s.
Put about 300 hours into this game and have been from one corner of the map to the other; and have never had this encounter. What a great game.
I underestimated cuz I didn’t want to sound pretentious.
I have nearly 1,000 hours on both PC & Xbox. Never encountered him before.
This guy was one of my first encounters because i always check the game map early when i play any game.
@@kaycred3361Even though the map is practically blank when you start?
@@michaelmyers9825 You're cringe.
There is a civil war hat in RDR2, but I wish you could find a general's outfit to put on and go back to this guy and mess around with him.
Or to dismiss him
It did seem like this could’ve been an actual side quest but got cut due to time constraints.
@@kaj7135After what I remember over 2-4 Hours of content got cut before the Game came out.
@@akiluro2981probably far more. Entire portions of the map are left unfinished.
Exactly!!
I came across him with a high bounty once. After having the conversation with him a big group of bounty hunters came after me and the old soldier promptly got in a shootout with them. He went down but took a few of them with him. I picked off the stragglers. He got his anticipated battle at last.
And then he respawned right back the next time I came through, still oblivious as to what year it was.
This rabbit hole just got a whole lot deeper...
He forgot he had died
he got shot dead, give him a damn break.
Probably because he died. 😂
Bros stuck in groundhog day lmao
The final confrontation is strange because it seems like it should set up a resolution where you track down Muriel and bring her to this man to get him to come home.
Probably cut content
@@tyr573 Apparently a lot of people didn't find him, so maybe it was cut when playtesting ? I know they removed an easter egg from Portal 2 because nobody found it (which became the ending)
@@Hiro_Trevelyan Really???
My guess is the guy went back home after the war, and then cracked and came back out here later on after his wife passed.
Isn’t there a cabin with a dead lady a ring and a letter from a solder?
It baffles me how neither Arthur nor John have tried to get through to him properly
They could’ve said “sir, the war is over.. Union won, we’ve met multiple times and you’re out here stuck living the same day over and over, no one’s sending any message, it’s the year 1899 (1907 if you’re playing as John)”
He’d probably be like “that’s ridiculous”
“Look I can prove it, I’ve got a newspaper right here with the current date clearly stated”
To which he’d probably either break down because he’s been out there so long or be ecstatic that the Union won and run home
Or I guess more likely think it’s a trick and attempt to shoot you calling you a confederate spy or something
I'm thinking this guy has some form of long-term anterograde amnesia, he can't form new memories and reverts back to the same time after a day or so. So, even if you managed to convince him of his situation, in another day or two you'd find him back at the shack, standing guard, with no memory of the conversation you'd shared.
It's downright terrifying if you think about it.
@@dajolaw you’re probably right, but attempting to help him would’ve been a nice thought
@@cheesydanishgaming3333 he has been at that post for 40 years and believes it has been a few weeks at most. what help is there? where would he go? what would he do? wake up in unfamiliar places repeatedly and wonder why he isnt at his post every time?
the messed up truth is that the best thing you can do to help him at this point is make sure he has enough food (he might have had a huge stockpile that is now down to like 20 cans after 40 years of eating), bring him some supplies he might have been missing, and quietly pray that he never pays attention to his aging body. here he feels like he has a purpose and here he is as satisfied/happy as someone whose mind is stuck in april 14th 1862 can be.
people similar to this exist irl and it is as heartbreaking as you might imagine.
and then you're in a time loop trying to convince him that the war is over and you've met before, and eventually you forget when you met, maybe you think you knew him, maybe he dies one day, ,and arthur grabs his clothes, and sits, waiting for dismissal polishing his shoes and rifle.@@cheesydanishgaming3333
That would be the best.
People say theres no resolution, but there is a body at a burned out military camp with a wedding ring on it. No other encounter attached. I wonder if this is Muriel and he lost his mind when he found out. Thats why he cant move past April 14th, because after that he went home and Muriel died.
Interesting theory, i definitely agree
There’s also a house with the body of an old woman that’s been dead for a while and a letter from her husband who is off fighting the war
@@alexridyard7336 Good point.
@@alexridyard7336 but they didn't marry
Shit that's cold and accurate.
My guess is he has anterograde amnesia. It’s where your brain is unable to process new information, so his mind is permanently stuck on the day of April 14th 1862.
Correct. Like 50 First Dates.
Blud thinks he is in a adam sandler movie
@@VinEllis Or Memento.
@@Literallyryangosling777 truly, a fate worse than death.
@@michaelmyers9825 Ain't snow supposed to be rare-non existent in a subtropical region like Luisiana? Even if there is snow, the guy would probs still rationalise it as "Well I've seen winters lasting until april so whatever"
How in the world have I never encountered this in all my runs 😂
Stg I’m thinking the same thing
Same
You've already met him. You just don't remember it just like he is
I did, I got a little to close and he one shooted me lmao
Maybe for the same reason I did. The first time I came across the place it was locked up tight and no one outside. It was raining, so I assume this is why. 2nd time visiting was clear weather and he was outside.
This is historically accurate. This has happened to many soldiers on the frontier West in the Civil War. In fact, this has happened in most wars, WW2 even up to Vietnam.
yup permanent anterograde amnesia. Eternally stuck living the same day because the brain can't form new memories
@@nctsgrassman thats fucked up
@@calumzmemez5075 indeed. I read about a war veteran who had the same. He had to live in a mental hospital, and his doctor writes about how everyday, the veteran would greet him cheerfully like it's the first time they ever met. He strongly believed he was a young soldier, and when he saw his old self in the mirror he would freak out in horror. Every single day, same thing over and over.
@@nctsgrass Jesus. War is and always has been terrifying
Do you mean the amnesia part that most people seem to be assuming or thinking the war is still ongoing long after it's over? There is a crazy story about a Japanese guy who still thought they were fighting the US decades after it ended because he had just lived in the jungle as a hermit waiting for action.
If I was in Arthur’s position I would’ve come back and said general scollick has given word that the war is over, you can return home now, especially since he doesn’t remember who you are or telling you that general scollick exists
*a day later*
*same spot*
ARE YOU WITH THE UNION?
@@Model3140digitalalarmclock lol or he packs up and wakes up the next day at a campsite with no idea how he got there and dies in the woods alone
"It's been a hard war and a long war"...."very long in your case" hahaha Arthur , what a reply.
“Don’t tell me you’re a Delaware boy.” Is gonna be my go to now.
"Sir, the war is over, go home. Here's some proofs"
"Oh dang, I better go back to my betrothed" **runs off**
1 day later, same place:
"ARE YOU FROM THE UNION????"
you know, I think killing him is the better ending for him.
I wish you could recruit him to fight the Lemoyne raiders. At least then he'd die knowing that he did his duty to take back the territory from johnny reb.
Poor guy I feel bad for him
Think he ever ran into Gavin’s friend?
I don't think so cz if he did he'd probably shoot
More than 900 hours played, platinum trophy included... And I've never seen this encounter... This game amazes me more and more
I always felt like it would fit with the tone of the game and the themes in most of the shacks and cabins if you went back there as John in the Epilogue and found a skellyton still sitting in his uniform and holding his rifle
skellyton? lol
Skellyton
@@justinschraeder8924 way better than skeleton
"skellyton" is adorable for some reason
How much does a pile of bones weight?
A skelly-tonne!
Damn. I was lowkey getting into this like a TV show. I was hoping for a better/happier ending, and thought that Arthur was going to either finish the old man's repeated sentences to show him that they've met before, or show him a newspaper with the current date on it to prove that it isn't the year he thinks it is. It's sad to see the poor man imprisoned in his own mind, and wants to be free with his wife, but won't because he's too loyal and proud, and can't because he's just too lost, and unfortunately his wife may be too. Yet another insane detail by this masterpiece of a game. It really does hit different. ❤️🔥
Neither Arthur or John thought to say, “it’s 1899”?
1907 for John
Just another example of why there will never, ever be another game like this one.
Crazy thing to say. You think the next installment of GTA or RDR won't be better?
@@soob5856 honestly? no.
i can’t see it happening
@@soob5856Of cause gta will be better than the previous. with rdr2 how can you improve a master piece.
My prediction is gta6 will be better than gta5 but not as good as RDR2, we’ll see about RDR3 in about 5 years maybe.
@@urbansk8r231 You can improve a masterpiece with a larger company, more money and access to technological improvements that will be available in the next 10 years. I'm not saying rdr2 isn't a 10/10 game, I love it. But, it's foolish to look at Rockstar's trajectory and expect less out of the next one.
I actually never met this guy, it’s crazy that rdr have so many surprises for player
I never thought about it until now but what if you lasso him and carry him to Saint Denis or one of the Civil War veterans
Nothing probably, I wouldn't Imagine rock star thought that far.
@@raptorboi5355 in their defense who the hell would?
A channel called FTW did it and like yous guys said nothing happened
Did it, he just beat the hell out of me after I untied him and after I ran away he just started walking out of Saint Denis. I also looted him after and all he had was about 50 some cents 🤷
@@MrTruehoustonian Alright, did he lasso the guy on the 9 minute mark or did he actually do it in the first 2 minutes and found something else to draw out the video for 8 more minutes?
Real case : Japanese soldiers who didn't know the war was over. He kept stay in small village and steal chicken, crops. Just waiting for support team.
Want help with your English?
@@twinzzlerswant help with you ass syndrome?
@@twinzzlers You gonna be OK snowflake?
They also shot at Filipino civilians. Though at least they actually accepted the concept the war was over when their officers told them so.
The most famous Japanese hold out was named Hiroo Onoda who maintained his post in the Philippines until 1972, almost 30 years after the war ended.
He was found with a well maintained rilfe and several hand grenades.
He had killed about a dozen Philippinos during his time in the jungle. Eventually a Japanese college student found him and spoke with him. The Japanese government had to fly in his old commanding officer who ordered him to stand down before Hiroo would abandon his post.
There were a dozen or so other Japanese soldiers that surrendered in the late 60's and early 70's.
In the 40's, 50's and 60's there were many thousands of soldiers that never surrendered until a ranking officer came to relieve them.
Onoda wrote a book which is worth reading.
It is this mindset, which only the Japanese possessed, that is part of the justification for using the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Those bombs saved lives, despite revisionist historians who want to apply a peace time morality to a total war scenario.
Look no further than the losses at Okinawa and it's easy to see that the bombs saved American as well as Japanese lives.
An invasion of mainland Japan would have cost several million Japanese civilian lives as well as 1 to 2 million Japanese military deaths.
The absolute lowest estimate for the American deaths was 250k with some military estimates being over one million allied dead.
Always felt sorry for this guy. Clearly, some PTSD issues keep him there. There is so much trauma in war, and this game doesn't sugarcoat anything. Always hoped he'd run into some Lemoyne raiders and have one last good fight. I only had one encounter with him while I was out riding at night. Didn't know you could or should return. I did find a cigarette card somewhere in the outpost. Maybe it would be fitting to have him slowly dying when John visited, and he gave him two letters to mail. One to his bride and one to the general. This game is done so well. I hope they learn these lessons and apply them to GTA #6.
More like alzheimer’s
I wish gta would fcking die. That game is the exact reason Rockstar let red dead die.
@@MontaneroIt will probably be anterograde amnesia
Legend has it he’s still right there in 2023 waiting on those orders to move to leymoyne
Just holding on to life for like 200 years
orders anytime now
Wow, finally out of all the videos with these "hidden npcs" I can say I never met this dude.
weird, he's not that hidden
Yeah I am just blind lol, gonna have to visit him next time I play tho.@@rohan1864
Nobody is really *hidden* the game just has a lot of NPCS and encounters it’s hard to get them all
@@EmperorFreezaSama hence why I did it in quotes mate.
Reminds me of the Japanese soldier they discovered in 1974 on an island in the Pacific who thought the war was still on. He wouldn't surrender until they located his superior officer and brought him to confront the soldier.
Yeah, Hiroo Onoda. I was going to write the same thing until I saw your comment. 😂
sometimes I wish there was an ability to bring Captain Monroe to try and get this guy to go home. perhaps Monroe can try to get him to head home or see a doctor
this seems less like a man that could never accept the war was over, and more an old timer with dementia slipping back to his most prominent memory. it would explain why he never recognizes arthur
Sometimes, I wish the game was an RPG so you could do things like that
I mean, Captain Monroe _would_ outrank him in Russell's still-civil-war mind, so it'd be worth a shot I guess
Should have been able to help him. Give him several news papers or find someone he served with. Something positive.
That'd be nice but it'd be quite sad as he wouldve forgotten of every attempt to help by the next time you meet him
There was already an irl instance of a soldier like that and when he's seen the news of the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the empire surrendering and all that shit. The dude chalked it up to being bs/ Us propaganda to get him and his crew to surrender and kept fighting until the 70's
@@nctsgrass Not if he kept the newspaper. Then every time he laid eyes on on the front page again, he'd see the top story celebrating the Union's victory in big ol' print again...
It's sad to think that his love is probably either thinking he died in war or is dead herself.
Would’ve been cool if Arthur did take him to a city and get the guys reaction. Then find him somewhere in the epilogue out west
I’m on my 2nd play through and still didn’t know about this and this man’s existence! Clearly didn’t explore enough 😅
Yup this is so funny, I've never come across this NPC!!
I'm on my 6th, never seen this dude before. This game is wild.
Who in his own mind would want to kill that poor soul ??? The guy lost 37 years of this life by thinking he was doing his duty while NOBODY remembered him or having given an order to him. He lost his life, his mind, any chance of future... Why kill him ?
Because for the rest of his life, he's only stuck on one day. Sounds like a fate worse then death.
To put him out of his misery so he can reconnect with his loved ones in death
@@lucasmartinez5703not if it’s a good day. he seems to be okay to have a purpose & it’s not like he knows he’s reliving the same day everytime
Probably becuase he pulls out and aims a gun at you
Me I live in the south 😂
Been playing this game since 2018 yet I have NEVER seen this NPC before and I’ve found most of the obscure ones too. I always learn something new about this game.
Well I never even thought of harming him, killing is too far! Honestly I feel pity for guys like that. 😢 Good thing John can interact with him as well.
I lasso'd this guy, looted him, then left him on his front porch. What do y'all think, does that ruin the next encounters?
No. Encounters are only ruined if you kill the npc.
he probably wouldn't remember
Was there anything special on him, like a letter or anything?
He don't remember You after first time, second time, he dont know which year is, war is over, and You still asking if it will ruin?:DD
@@hellcat1401 I think there is a treasure map in his house.
I remember that there's a cabin between grizzlies east and Annesburg. There i found corpse of woman(bones in costume), some letter about man who left her because of war and ring. I'm not sure exactly why man left her but i think there was something about war.
My favorite line is "oh, God, don't tell me you're a Delaware boy!"
imagine you could go to his commander and be like "yo your soldier still out here you wana call him back?"
Since there was a lot of cut content, I'm sure there was a quest where you do find and bring a Union officer to tell him the war is long since over and that the Union won! Then you discover the man has mental issues and have him taken away to receive help.
@@dragondude9637help would probably just be a lobotomy or something "helpful" like that back in those days anyway
i just realized that april 14th 1962 is exactly 3 years before abraham lincoln was murdered
I can’t believe in the three times I’ve played and fully explored the map I have never ran into this guy
Same lol
SAME
I am guessing you didn’t fully explore the map because he isn’t hidden away, unlike the statues in a cave with their arms broken off. That one is one of the hardest locations to find. I can’t remember which play through I was on when I discovered that.
Even after hundreds of gameplay hours, I've never seen this!
Same
What do you do for hundreds of hours if you aren't exploring new stuff? I mean I get it, you can hunt a lot or something, but I've played maybe 50 hours and I haven't been surprised by any RUclips video or Reddit post about anything, I believe the only things I haven't personally seen in the game are the vampire and the UFO. The UFO is time sensitive so that's probably why, and I'm just putting off going after the vampire.
Later, he finds a Japanese soldier hiding in a cave who is absolutely convinced that WW2 has already started ;)
always amazed from discover new things like that in this game.
The third time i really thought Arthur would cut him off and just say, orders from Scollick, the rebels have surrendered Lemoyne, return home
*the next day*
GREY OR BLUE???
@@Model3140digitalalarmclockreply "White! I'm from Saint Gabriel's mental asylum. You need to come and be examined."
Of all the times I've played through this game I don't think I've killed this guy even once.
Many don’t know this but you can find this very guy in RDR1 as well at the same post lol he’s older though
Reminds me of that Adam Sandler movie "50 first dates" where the girl he likes has some form of memory loss where she only remembers everything up until 1 specific day.
But that begs the question... If the guy refuses to leave his post, how does he get food and water? There are no rations left most likely. Maybe his memory loss started on a day where he resupplies or something along those lines, if that's how the illness works.,
Regardless, it's the "open to interpretation" stuff that makes games like this shine just a little bit more. I just wish more stuff had closure.
I have HOURS in this game, many in that area - never even seen this guy! Always learn something new from your posts. Noyce.
im always amazed at how they put so much content into this game
Everytime he goes back inside that lil fort and naps he hits his head and forgets the whole day I bet
That's some cartoon shit l
Been playing since 2020 and never came across this. Every play through has something new …. Fking love this game. My forever favourite
I wonder if there's been any real-life instances of wars coming to an end and the odd soldier didn't hear about it.
There has been. Look up Hiroo Onada, a Japanese officer who didn't realise WW2 was over for 29 years. He was stationed in the Philippines with some other soldiers and they tried several things to get them to surrender, including dropping leaflets letting them know the war was over. They ended up having to send in his former commanding officer to give him official orders. He surrendered in 1974.
It's an interesting story and well worth looking into.
I wonder if Captain Russell has dimensia or Alzheimers. His extremely wrong estimate of the year, as well as his inability to remember Arthur and John, make me think he isn't alright in the head. His dedication to duty has kept him in the same area all this time, yet he has no idea how long it's been.
He has anterograde amnesia. The inability to keep memories made AFTER whatever caused it
Ive watched so many rdr2 videos and this is the first time I've seen a horse take a shit.
Oh my goodness. I’ve seen the cabin of Muriel’s where she has a letter from him and is dead waiting for his return!
Just fyi, he's wearing the wrong uniform for his rank, i believe he's wearing a union colonel uniform, so either he's crazy or stole a uniform (he did mention being a volunteer)
Sad there's no conclusion for him, though I feel he'd likely shoot himself over how his entire life was wasted due to his condition if he accepted the truth.
The level of detail that was put into this game never ceases to amaze me. All of this, for a random encounter that myself and no doubt a number of other players never came across!
Legend says that even today he's still manning his post
I kind of wanted them both to finally get to him. Like, I know that with that sort of condition, it may not be worth it to try and explain to him the truth, but still.
I would’ve liked for two extra encounters.
One where the first guy says something like “Well, indeed I am! And it’s your lucky day soldier, we’re moving down and taking that town for ourselves!”
Mission Started: Something worth remembering
And then he’d lead him to the town, being very careful about it and showing him that none of the people there are from the other side of the war while explaining how the war went down.
I also wish the other guy had a cutscene play where he slowly got off the horse and told the man to look at his hands and to look at his face. “You see that? That’s you, getting older!” The two would then argue back and forth before, finally, he shakes his head and heads back to his horse while the old man shouts for him to leave.
“Guess some people will always be stuck in the past. Whether dead or alive. A shame, really.”
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Why not a 3rd option, riding out to the cavalry fort or something to send out a ridder to the man.
Man, I’ve had this game since it came out and even finished it again a few months ago and never ran into him!
Damn it got different dialogue. That last convo got pop me in head. I encounter a cabin with a dead lady, ring and a letter. Never thought it has connection with that lone soldeir. Great detail their Rockstar.
You make me want to play this all over again. I missed out on a lot of NPC encounters because I was blowing them all away, some of them never had time to speak before I shot them dead. Serial killer Arthur.
ur a psycopath definitely hahahha
I met him first as John and unfortunatelly killed him because I needed a weapon. (It was in the farm days when you don't have access to your equipment and I wanted to go exploring so I needed a rifle).
I’ve seen this man once as Arthur, another as John to see if he was still alive. He is. The crazy thing is, is how he didn’t notice any change in age, or how he didn’t at least have an idea of how long has passed. 1:19 ok, he probably just has dementia.
I love that the horse is just nonchalantly taking a sh*t lol
Year 2077
“10 new details found in rdr2”
I wonder if you can take a newspaper or something like that out to him?
I never knew this existed Wow this game came out 5 years ago and I'm still discovering things in it
Word is, he’s still guarding that post to this day.
Can you lasso him and take him into town, let him go there and see how he behaves?
Alzheimer’s is awful
this wouldnt be alzheimers
he might have hit his head too hard
Anterograde amnesia, very different
@@nctsgrass I didn’t expect such a serious response to my throw-away comment
@@heinkle1 I wrote 4 words
That is one patient soldier waiting there all that time
In his mind he's probably only been waiting a few days
I bet those weapons are cleaner than the day they were made. 40 years of constant cleaning
I’m so surprised so many people haven’t ran across him. He’s got a whole tower and everything. I never kill him. He’s too sad to kill really.
One must imagine the Captain, Russell, is happy
forever expecting a day of glory and a woman awaiting his return
Awesome my friend. I have only seen the first two encounters. Thanks again and....... KEEP THEM COMING!!!!!!!!
Of all the videos on hidden secrets in rdr2 , you are 1st to show this
I've never seen this guy in a thousand hours. Wow
I’ve finished this about 5 times on console and I’ve never found him! Is this extra PC content ?
Nope he's just on top of that hill that people don't usually go to. That's prime currant country around there so I found it in my searches for that.
You've never finished this game. No one ever finishes...
@@VL1975 I meant I’ve done all missions, side and main and seen the story out. I thought I’d seen all random encounters but apparently not. Granted I have never finished all quests (hunting etc). I’m on my 6th playthrough now, I’d rather replay it than continue way after the epilogue.
I’ve just been to see him. I can’t believe I’ve never found this before
It’s odd how this guy constantly forgets what day it is or the last time you met him but he will always remember the exact army division he is and what his task was. Ironic.
It's a condition called anterograde amnesia - you remember everything up to a certain point, but lose the ability to form long term memories of anything later.
@@TrimeshSZ Oh. Huh. Didn’t know that.
He's suffering from anterograde amnesia.
He literally cannot form new memories, stuck reliving the same day over and over again. It's a terrifying condition since there's technically nothing wrong with him physically, he's just as capable as anyone else his age, heck, maybe even more capable since he's trying to maintain the same daily routine despite being advanced in age.
Once his body starts to fail him it turns into a nightmare for him though... Constantly waking up in a body that won't work, still believing he's a young man with an important duty to fulfill, until eventually his body just fails completely.
Has anyone else watched the movie '50 first dates'? Seems like that to me, his memory resets every night. That must suck
The type of amnesia where you don’t remember after a certain point
This guy doesn't love his wife. But chose to follow the stupid orders of his own boss.
His wife is dead. He's actually demented. If people took the time to understand time progress in this game and how these encounters evolve over encounters/chapters. I did own the RDR2 guide (physical book), sold it for a crazy price, but that book literally explained all these encounters. There's depth to these strangers. Showing different stages of the game.
I have all this stuff recorded on my PS4. Like when the game is over for instance, you can go back to all the original camp locations and hear "voices" of the past. You'll hear memories of your time with the gang. Not once, no. Multiple times you can go back and hear different things.
The amount of detail they have put in is absurd. There's a lot of these things. I'm just writing out of the top of my head and it's been a while since I touched story mode since I 100%'d it and left it. There wasn't anything to encounter.
The guide even describes "more mysteries" while f.i. the Ghost train is a thing. I've never read about it but in my playthrough I suddenly encountered it.
@@likeicare1234 there is a guide book?
@@likeicare1234 I haven't encountered the ghost train. But I tried at 3:00 a.m. as people said, and the train didn't spawn.🥹
I killed him my second playthrough, put him out of his misery lol he died as a soldier in battle for all he knows.
I came across this guy while chasing the Silver Dapple Pinto Missouri Fox Trotter after doing the Arcadia for Amateurs III mission, what a coincidence lmao
War is hell. Guy's living in one fixed time forever. It happens.
4:40
I feel bad for this guy, I feel like he has short-term memory and only remembers the war
I took him to Saint Denis and he just still tries to fight and say he needs to get back to his post on the way there.
That was a fun damn match to watch
This is like the "Sweet Johnny" story in My Name is Earl
Captain is waiting for his next war.
Bruh the horse just casually shits
Wow! This has so much parallelism with the guy depicted in the Japanese film Onoda 10000 nights in the jungle.
Having family that has suffered from dementia, these interactions are spot on.
I imagine Hayden is living the life of Phil Conners from Groundhog Day. For him, it will be April 14, 1862 forever.
So this is the connection to Miriams shack with the skeleton and war letters
god damn, and I missed this after 120ish hours
That NPC character reminds me of the Japanese or Vietnamese character from the Archer tv show. The guy who was stuck in the jungle since the 1940s and Archer meets him in the jungle in the 1980s.