Hey dog, you were wrong about the native name of Taiwan. Taiwan was a name given to the island by the Dutch long after the name Formosa after a tribe of people living on the coast. The name Taiwan only caught on among South Chinese people later. Up until the later 1600s the island had more direct historical relation to the Spanish and Dutch than mainland China as the people living there were basal Austronesians and not Chinese people. IE: The Chinese were colonizers and settlers, not locals. They also got their word for the island from the Dutch.
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If memory serves me right there is a Taiwanese hentai with Douglas MacArthur. So there is your answer. (The only reason I even know about it is because it became a meme on r/kaiserreich awhile back)
Wouldn't it be useful to make a distinction between bad history and Fake history? Like this work is different from poorly researched or poorly written history, in that it's just made up fiction used by a conman. Most bad history can contain some truth that you can dig deeper into and see how the author got them wrong. But when it's just written by someone who's making it all up out of thin air, the value in that seems like it would fall into a different field of study.
It's usually impossible to distinguish between well-meaning incompetence and malicious deceit. Sometimes the deceiver will admit it, but that's pretty uncommon.
I feel like Psalmanazar most probably got all his info from what little rumors he heard from Spanish and Portuguese colonial endevours in the Philippines, Taiwan, and Macau. Pacando might've just been his botched attempt at writing what he heard from Portuguese descriptions of the Pescadores Islands. Gad Avia is clearly just some catholic latin name he messed up. Bagalo might perhaps be from rumors of Magalo sea raiders in Spanish colonial Philippines which he assumed might be raiders from the Taiwanese aboriginals. Tano is probably from Taino, the former natives of the Carribean in the West Indies that the Spanish first found, but his topic is clearly about the East Indies. Emperor of Tartary is probably Spanish catholic descriptions from the Spanish colonial Philippines who regard the manchurian Qing dynasty as tartars or from descriptions like the Boxer Codex "Tartaro". Then of course all his adapted descriptions are all tailored to the English audience. his mention of Europeans coming "the Dutch and English", most probably he decided to replace Spanish with English to hide his sources and market to his Protestant English audience. Tyowan is of course from Taiwan which the Dutch were calling and spelling it at that time and they indeed had a fort at Fort Zeelandia. The events he describes with the Siege of Zeelandia and the establishment of the Kingdom of Tungning do have a shred of truth but he got the dates wrong. Meryaandanoo is probably a reference to Koxinga, who was a chinese man born in Japan and eventually became a high ranking general of the Ming dynasty who laid siege to Fort Zeelandia and established the Kingdom of Tungning as its king. The language of Taiwan at that time was also same with China, not Japan, in that Taiwan mostly spoke its own dialect and accent of Hokkien which is also present over the straits at China. Eventually taiwan, did makes its own alphabet lol Zhuyin/Bopomofo, but that was centuries later.
Very interesting, but a big correction, Saying that that Taiwan spoke Hokkien at that time is a bit inaccurate by the early XVIII Formosan language would still be probably the language of a big chunk of the population, the mass immigration to Formosa happened mostly during that century under Qing rule.
Zhuyin/Bopomofo wasn't made by the Taiwanese it was made by the ROC central government during the Beyiang period when Taiwan was still Japanese, it remained popular in Taiwan alongside Wade Giles and other older romanizations as a means of transcribing Chinese were as Hanyu Pinyin replaced them both in the mainland
Dang so I wasn’t the only one who thought of the Boxer Codex and a variant of “Tartary” being used to describe Mongol/Central Asian immigrants in Philippines
@The Nova renaissance Poles aren't just plumbers like Japanese-Italian videogame characters. Winged Hussars didn't exist during the time Lechina Empire is said to exist. They existed during the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth much later.
0:28 Oh, watch yourself there. There is a series of "history" textbooks known as the New Chronology, by Anatoly Fomenko, which has sold over a million copies in Russia. I do recommend Fomenko's New Chronology for a future episode of Bad History, because it's one of the most hilarious things you'll ever read.
As someone who is learning Japanese, I can assure you that the name “Chazadjin” goes against Japanese phonology. I am guessing the average Japanese would have pronounced it as “Chazadojin”, and written it as “チャザドギン”. And yeah as Tigerstar said it doesn’t even sound Japanese. That name gives me more of an Ancient Middle Eastern vibe.
Even then, I'd assume it'd be the Japanese equivalent of "Bobson Dugnutt" or "Sleve McDichael" where it almost sounds like an actual name but is also still completely wrong.
I studied Japanese and I originally claimed the exact opposite, but that is probably because my romanisation renders ぢ as 'dji'. Though I bet the じ-ぢ merger would have already been so common that there would be no reason for the 'd'.
For any of you wondering, of course virtually nobody knows about this in Taiwan… because the whole thing is just plain made up. Speaking of, can I add Chinese subtitles to this so Taiwanese viewers can laugh at how absurd this all is?
Plot twist: Everyone knew he was lying and just went along with it for the lulz. That is the reason why no one really went to debunk him and why no one cared when he revealed it was fake. The people making the textbooks with the Formosan alphabet were just really gullible, and were the only people that were really fooled.
"[...]but if I were to make a book that completely made up a history of a place, it would be easily torn apart and wouldn't sell millions of copies." J.R.R. Tolkien, George R.R. Martin and a gazillion other fantasy writers would disagree.
@@samohtt r/woooosh much? EDIT: On a more serious note, ever heard 'bout Atlantis? Or Lemuria? Mu? Kumari Kandam? These are all "fictional places" that had their own "bad history" created in various points in time. And all of them were on Earth. Or "What Scientologists Actually Believe" section from one of the episodes of South Park. "Bad history" in space. (Although they are a quasi-religion of sorts.)
@@tereziamarkova2822 That's not the point. I was making a joke about, how writing fantasy amounts in big part to making up a history of some place. Hell there are fantasy stories that take place in our world, and have made up bad, stupid even lies in place of normal history.
Well Tolkien and George weren’t claiming any of there stories were from the real world and real life. It was clear they were just writing fictional stories and made up fictional cultures. With the Hobbit in particular made intentional as simple bedtime story. Unlike this French guy who claimed all that he said was to true and real culture and history and published his stuff as real legit history material even though he himself knew it was bull crap.
@@brandonlyon730 MOTHER OF GNNNNNNAAAAH! I'm going to say this ONCE more, an God help you if you can't understand after THREE repetitions! IT IS A FOOKIN' JOKE! Why are y'all quasi-intellectuals looking for a deeper meaning and argue logically over a JOKE!? Of COURSE that it's a completely different situation, and comparing fantasy writers with THIS is pointless, but the joke used the fact, that in both situations stories were made up. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT! GAAAAH! GOD!
"Tartar" has been in use for a very long time, including (for instance) by the 20th century poet Hilaire Belloc, and sometimes in relation to Russian history, still is!
actually the possibility that he modeled the pseudo-history of japan on england can be traced to a literary practice, that we know of as a roman a clef (french) in which real historical events are fictionalized, mostly for the sake of satire, but sonmetimes as propaganda and flattery. a famous example which is a bit of both is the lettres persiennes.
English adventurer in the 18th century: I must save the Formosans from the Japanese *Goes to Formosa* The natives on Formosa/Taiwan: Wait what?? *Qing Dynasty arrests the adventurer for being "mad"*
4:00 "The actual name for Formosa in the native language is, well, Taiwan." This wording makes it sound like the name of Taiwan is (or was) "Taiwan" in the (Austronesian) languages of the Taiwanese aborigines. Is that actually the case? I tried to google what Taiwan is called in these languages but couldn't find anything.
I think Taiwan arrive from the name the Dutch call the area (Tayuan or smth) and eventually means the whole island I don't really think natives do know they live on a whole island though since there's like 18 different groups out there living mainly in the mountainous area(more if you included those tribes that lives in plains area like the Siraya,which perished overtime under Qing rule or being converted into Han Chinese culture)and Taiwan got several high af mountain lines splitting the country
Good vid, but please bear in mind that just cos Taiwan was coloured in by the Qing on the map does not mean it is that clear cut in reality. For a long time, many Chinese from the mainland in Fujian would come over for seasonal work collecting resources along the coast, while the Dutch still maintained a coastal outposts that also employed them. As far as I know the Dutch did not have any agreement with the Chinese regime, it was just so Wild West-like at the time. Barely a handul went into the Heart of Darkness of the aboriginal interior save for some truly badass Christian missionaries for a while.
You mean the Qing period? dutch basically give up after being defeated by Koxinga(A Chinese pirate trying to continue Ming dynasty on the island).In the Qing period they only maintain real control over the western region at the start (There was a Dadu kingdom established by the aboriginals in central western Taiwan,and you got a high af mountain cutting through Taiwan blocking the road to east),but overtime they explored into the northern region and the east.From what I read tho I saw no record about the dutch coming back.
The funny thing is, his story was inspired by European and Near East history so he couldn't conceive how different name and language were in the actual East. If you were to tell most European back then actual Chinese, Japanese and Korean names they woudn't believe you because it sounds too different
I'm not sure anyone cares, but in the first reading assignment of the week in history, my professor cited Gavin Menzies not once, but twice and acted like the idea that the Minoans (yes the bronze age ones) and the Chinese both had colonies in the Americas (and the Minoans in the great lakes region) was just as likely as Vikings coming over
Of course he probably wouldn’t, there’s already a musical about it made by the same guys who made South Park, I’m sure they did an amazing job with lampooning that book about Jesus and the Holy Land being in America
In the word "chazadijn", as a native japanese speaker, I can confidently say that at least one of the syllables actually exists in the japanese language
Can't wait for this series to cover The History Channel and even other HistoryTubers, but it's thoroughly entertaining to learn about these now-unknown weirdos
Fun fact: During the 1600s, England also knew Formosa as "Tywan", which is pronounced just like "Taiwan", and is a 17th century Anglicisation of the Chinese name.
He makes Marco Polo look like an angel. I think at least Polo tried to get it right not making it up out of whole cloth like this guy. Perhaps you could to a critique of The Travels of Marco Polo aka Book of the Marvels of the World aka Il Milione.
I'm french, Southern French there is a whole clique of weird funny and absurd characters like a Guy who was a merchant and did ... some weird things ? .... 😂😂
Wait,so by lieing that he is Taiwanese(Formosan) he could wright a book about Formosa that is Fictional/Alternate History,but when tried to do it normaly he couldn't do it. And everybody forgot abput him lieing,so....he could have pretended that he was native american and then he could wright Fic/Alt history. (Sorry for my english)
I like that guy. It's just a conman, but instead of modern day, it's 1700. Also taking a name from sth diffrent and changing it a bit to make it less obvious, just like me when writing RPG stuff.
Could the the invasion by tartary by based off of the failed mongol invasion of Japan? Tartar was also the generic name for steppe people for western europeans.
Somehow out of all of this the most ridiculous part to me is that he claims that Taiwan was conquered by Japan even though by 1600 the emperor was a complete figurehead under the Tokugawa shogunate all the way until the Meiji restoration in the 19th century
Well, to be fair he tried with Chazadijin. Just remove the "di" to turn it into Chazajin. Jin even means person in Japanese so that's kind of funny. The whole creating his own language thing was also kind of impressive in a way. Might as well go all out, huh?
"A Historical and Geographical description of Formosa an island subjected to the emperor of Japan" Me: Oh cool so it's written in the late 19th century? Very interesting Author: *Is born around 1690* Me: o h
I have seen a historical/archaeological theory on the internet about Polynesians arriving in South America before Columbus. Do you consider that ok or bad history/archaeology?
So he got the years for both the Qing and the Japanese conquest wrong, the former would be fairly doable for him to find out and the latter wouldn't happen for a long time after his death. I think this is pretty clear evidence he was a time traveller - getting the dates of bronze age conflicts wrong by 200 years is pretty bad, but can happen of the cuff, so I propose Psalmanazar must have been born around the 5000s. Him keeping his real name and origin a secret is just further evidence of this since that is *exactly* what a time traveller would do
This sounds like Mormon “”””””””history”””””” Oh the Mormon books would fit this series well, if you’re not afraid of offending a cult offshoot the Christian cult
By the way I hope the audio sounds better this video. Apparently people thought my audio in previous videos had been too quiet.
Audio was just fine, man. Still, it's ironic that a guy who fictionalized a real place sucked at writing fiction later on in his life.
Hey dog, you were wrong about the native name of Taiwan. Taiwan was a name given to the island by the Dutch long after the name Formosa after a tribe of people living on the coast. The name Taiwan only caught on among South Chinese people later. Up until the later 1600s the island had more direct historical relation to the Spanish and Dutch than mainland China as the people living there were basal Austronesians and not Chinese people.
IE: The Chinese were colonizers and settlers, not locals. They also got their word for the island from the Dutch.
Why do I have a gut feeling that this guy just wanted to make a fictional story based on a geographic area, basically the star trek of the 1600s?
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Creates misinformation just so he can dismiss misinformation and get paid for it.
STONKS
Andrew LaChapelle that’s actually some next level stuff tbh.
Sounds like sumthing Bugder would say
A Historical and Geographical Description of Formosa, an Island Subject to the Emperor of Japan.
Well, they were 200 years off.
Getting in those Taiwan deep cuts
well he did predict it
This was the Time, where The Togukawa Family don't want Outsides in Japan.
You’re About... 2 Centuries, Too Early
He was foreshadowing the Japanese conquest, I'll give him that.
He did predict the Japanese invasion of the island, though.
Not only that, he predicted the Imperial Restoration as well
@@d.pollett1812 Meiji never gets old, *never will*
This is true. Taiwan declared Independence after the Sino-Japanese War. Then Japan reconquered the island after an invasion.
Nobody predicts ANYTHING! It was an unfortunate coincidence and nothing more. Quit trying to make Psalmanazar a prophet!
Jesuists were like:
Wait, I went to Formosa and it's not like that
Psalamazar: Shut up papist!
Imagine thinking the nobility of Formosa looked like anything other than a Frenchman-This is your mind on Papistery
Jackson Almodobar Turning Point Anti-Popery
Based
"Sometimes people will cite as little as possible to make a theory of theirs seem plausible or true."
-Me in my schoolwork
Quoting yourself has to be the most pretentious thing ever
@@hormpir3648 I'm not trying to quote myself, I'm saying I do that in school.
@@hormpir3648 he wasn't quoting himself
i just had an idea, we should quote ourselves but with our middle name or something
The real strat is adding so many sources that your teacher won't check any of them
Your chillin’ out and some white dude with a French accent starts telling you how emperor clargondavadoogu invaded Taiwan. What do you do?
Believe him
Pee on him to show dominance.
William the Wizard Offer him a job at the most prestigious college promptly and without question.
T-Pose to express dominance and assert my Christian faith.
his Taiwan now
Jonathan Swift cited Psalmanazar as a source in "A Modest Proposal" even after he was revealed to be fake, just to make it obvious that it was satire.
Well, if Formosan priests can eat 18,000 boys every year ...
Sounds like what Gulliver's Travels was parodying.
Imagine what the Hentai would be like in formosa
Oh my how lewd~
*LETS GET A THREESOME WITH QUIN AND ANIME LAND WEEEEEE*
i bet you, the weebs in taiwan probably do have hentai hahahaha
Saucy, if Pixiv is anything to go by
If memory serves me right there is a Taiwanese hentai with Douglas MacArthur. So there is your answer.
(The only reason I even know about it is because it became a meme on r/kaiserreich awhile back)
Wouldn't it be useful to make a distinction between bad history and Fake history? Like this work is different from poorly researched or poorly written history, in that it's just made up fiction used by a conman. Most bad history can contain some truth that you can dig deeper into and see how the author got them wrong. But when it's just written by someone who's making it all up out of thin air, the value in that seems like it would fall into a different field of study.
I'd say its the same thing. He's being just as dishonest as Dinesh D' Souza.
It's usually impossible to distinguish between well-meaning incompetence and malicious deceit. Sometimes the deceiver will admit it, but that's pretty uncommon.
I feel like Psalmanazar most probably got all his info from what little rumors he heard from Spanish and Portuguese colonial endevours in the Philippines, Taiwan, and Macau. Pacando might've just been his botched attempt at writing what he heard from Portuguese descriptions of the Pescadores Islands. Gad Avia is clearly just some catholic latin name he messed up. Bagalo might perhaps be from rumors of Magalo sea raiders in Spanish colonial Philippines which he assumed might be raiders from the Taiwanese aboriginals. Tano is probably from Taino, the former natives of the Carribean in the West Indies that the Spanish first found, but his topic is clearly about the East Indies. Emperor of Tartary is probably Spanish catholic descriptions from the Spanish colonial Philippines who regard the manchurian Qing dynasty as tartars or from descriptions like the Boxer Codex "Tartaro". Then of course all his adapted descriptions are all tailored to the English audience. his mention of Europeans coming "the Dutch and English", most probably he decided to replace Spanish with English to hide his sources and market to his Protestant English audience. Tyowan is of course from Taiwan which the Dutch were calling and spelling it at that time and they indeed had a fort at Fort Zeelandia. The events he describes with the Siege of Zeelandia and the establishment of the Kingdom of Tungning do have a shred of truth but he got the dates wrong. Meryaandanoo is probably a reference to Koxinga, who was a chinese man born in Japan and eventually became a high ranking general of the Ming dynasty who laid siege to Fort Zeelandia and established the Kingdom of Tungning as its king. The language of Taiwan at that time was also same with China, not Japan, in that Taiwan mostly spoke its own dialect and accent of Hokkien which is also present over the straits at China. Eventually taiwan, did makes its own alphabet lol Zhuyin/Bopomofo, but that was centuries later.
Very interesting, but a big correction, Saying that that Taiwan spoke Hokkien at that time is a bit inaccurate by the early XVIII Formosan language would still be probably the language of a big chunk of the population, the mass immigration to Formosa happened mostly during that century under Qing rule.
Zhuyin/Bopomofo wasn't made by the Taiwanese it was made by the ROC central government during the Beyiang period when Taiwan was still Japanese, it remained popular in Taiwan alongside Wade Giles and other older romanizations as a means of transcribing Chinese were as Hanyu Pinyin replaced them both in the mainland
I can't tell if the post is bs or not lol well played
Dang so I wasn’t the only one who thought of the Boxer Codex and a variant of “Tartary” being used to describe Mongol/Central Asian immigrants in Philippines
Can I put this reply here so this comment floats to the top of the page whenever I watch this video?
Say what you will about Psalmanazar, but the guy made a conlang in the 1700's. 8:42
Everyone spam Conlang Critic for season 4
You NEED to do a video on some of the insane "alternative chronology" theories like Phantom Time or Anatoly Fomenko's New Chronology.
Make a video on Lechina Empire. I am a Pole and I think it is funny but untrue.
What is a lechina
@The Nova renaissance Poles aren't just plumbers like Japanese-Italian videogame characters. Winged Hussars didn't exist during the time Lechina Empire is said to exist. They existed during the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth much later.
It seems deeply untrue and for the most part propagandistic.
@@caiawlodarski5339 So basically the PLC on steroids?
@@caiawlodarski5339 And King Arthur conquered Western Europe and thus started the Great European Civil War.
0:28 Oh, watch yourself there. There is a series of "history" textbooks known as the New Chronology, by Anatoly Fomenko, which has sold over a million copies in Russia. I do recommend Fomenko's New Chronology for a future episode of Bad History, because it's one of the most hilarious things you'll ever read.
@@macanaeh Is Prokopenko the crazy Naz-bol guy who wants to nuke every country that isn't Russia?
Macanada I looked up who I was thinking of. It was Alexander Dugin.
I’m not exactly well versed in modern Russian culture :P
As someone who is learning Japanese, I can assure you that the name “Chazadjin” goes against Japanese phonology. I am guessing the average Japanese would have pronounced it as “Chazadojin”, and written it as “チャザドギン”.
And yeah as Tigerstar said it doesn’t even sound Japanese. That name gives me more of an Ancient Middle Eastern vibe.
Chazadijn
Wouldn’t it be チャザドジン？
Even then, I'd assume it'd be the Japanese equivalent of "Bobson Dugnutt" or "Sleve McDichael" where it almost sounds like an actual name but is also still completely wrong.
@@masterspark9880 you are correct that's actually what i meant, i most likely made a typo on my japanese keyboard 😅
I studied Japanese and I originally claimed the exact opposite, but that is probably because my romanisation renders ぢ as 'dji'. Though I bet the じ-ぢ merger would have already been so common that there would be no reason for the 'd'.
I think George himself was the “lord of tartary”.
not mine atleast...
Hahaha nice
2:03 Ha! If there's one thing we have in Ireland it's local knowlege (by local I mean the whole island).
Even in the 18th century people deny Taiwan’s situation.
The Dislike is George Psalmanazar
And the other ones are his fake accounts
the other ones are people who learned his work in school who are only now finding out Taiwan isn’t just Formosa’s neighbor island
For any of you wondering, of course virtually nobody knows about this in Taiwan… because the whole thing is just plain made up. Speaking of, can I add Chinese subtitles to this so Taiwanese viewers can laugh at how absurd this all is?
Wow, he didn't even claim that he was descended from the Dutch whom he claimed colonized the island?! 🤦♂️
Plot twist: Everyone knew he was lying and just went along with it for the lulz. That is the reason why no one really went to debunk him and why no one cared when he revealed it was fake.
The people making the textbooks with the Formosan alphabet were just really gullible, and were the only people that were really fooled.
EmperorTigerstar trying to dethrone Anthony Fantano as the world's best minimalist wallet seller.
"[...]but if I were to make a book that completely made up a history of a place, it would be easily torn apart and wouldn't sell millions of copies."
J.R.R. Tolkien, George R.R. Martin and a gazillion other fantasy writers would disagree.
@@samohtt r/woooosh much?
EDIT: On a more serious note, ever heard 'bout Atlantis? Or Lemuria? Mu? Kumari Kandam? These are all "fictional places" that had their own "bad history" created in various points in time. And all of them were on Earth. Or "What Scientologists Actually Believe" section from one of the episodes of South Park. "Bad history" in space. (Although they are a quasi-religion of sorts.)
The thing with those guys is that they were able to tell engaging stories within those worlds.
@@tereziamarkova2822 That's not the point. I was making a joke about, how writing fantasy amounts in big part to making up a history of some place. Hell there are fantasy stories that take place in our world, and have made up bad, stupid even lies in place of normal history.
Well Tolkien and George weren’t claiming any of there stories were from the real world and real life. It was clear they were just writing fictional stories and made up fictional cultures. With the Hobbit in particular made intentional as simple bedtime story. Unlike this French guy who claimed all that he said was to true and real culture and history and published his stuff as real legit history material even though he himself knew it was bull crap.
@@brandonlyon730 MOTHER OF GNNNNNNAAAAH! I'm going to say this ONCE more, an God help you if you can't understand after THREE repetitions!
IT IS A FOOKIN' JOKE!
Why are y'all quasi-intellectuals looking for a deeper meaning and argue logically over a JOKE!?
Of COURSE that it's a completely different situation, and comparing fantasy writers with THIS is pointless, but the joke used the fact, that in both situations stories were made up. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT! GAAAAH! GOD!
"Tartar" has been in use for a very long time, including (for instance) by the 20th century poet Hilaire Belloc, and sometimes in relation to Russian history, still is!
actually the possibility that he modeled the pseudo-history of japan on england can be traced to a literary practice, that we know of as a roman a clef (french) in which real historical events are fictionalized, mostly for the sake of satire, but sonmetimes as propaganda and flattery. a famous example which is a bit of both is the lettres persiennes.
English adventurer in the 18th century: I must save the Formosans from the Japanese
*Goes to Formosa*
The natives on Formosa/Taiwan: Wait what??
*Qing Dynasty arrests the adventurer for being "mad"*
This is actually spectacular honestly. Mightve been a con artist, but he was a spectacular one.
4:00 "The actual name for Formosa in the native language is, well, Taiwan."
This wording makes it sound like the name of Taiwan is (or was) "Taiwan" in the (Austronesian) languages of the Taiwanese aborigines. Is that actually the case? I tried to google what Taiwan is called in these languages but couldn't find anything.
Aren't you virtuous for thinking of the abos.
@@RJStockton: Thank you for your praise but I must admit that it was mostly my love of nitpicking.
@@seneca983 Good man. Carry on.
I think Taiwan arrive from the name the Dutch call the area (Tayuan or smth) and eventually means the whole island
I don't really think natives do know they live on a whole island though since there's like 18 different groups out there living mainly in the mountainous area(more if you included those tribes that lives in plains area like the Siraya,which perished overtime under Qing rule or being converted into Han Chinese culture)and Taiwan got several high af mountain lines splitting the country
There's a theory that the "tai" in Taiwan could have been derived from "tao", meaning people in various Austronesian languages.
6:30 Even the name of the fort is wrong. The dutch fort was Zeelandia.
0:53 I already know this is wrong by looking at the book cover.
Good vid, but please bear in mind that just cos Taiwan was coloured in by the Qing on the map does not mean it is that clear cut in reality. For a long time, many Chinese from the mainland in Fujian would come over for seasonal work collecting resources along the coast, while the Dutch still maintained a coastal outposts that also employed them. As far as I know the Dutch did not have any agreement with the Chinese regime, it was just so Wild West-like at the time. Barely a handul went into the Heart of Darkness of the aboriginal interior save for some truly badass Christian missionaries for a while.
You mean the Qing period? dutch basically give up after being defeated by Koxinga(A Chinese pirate trying to continue Ming dynasty on the island).In the Qing period they only maintain real control over the western region at the start (There was a Dadu kingdom established by the aboriginals in central western Taiwan,and you got a high af mountain cutting through Taiwan blocking the road to east),but overtime they explored into the northern region and the east.From what I read tho I saw no record about the dutch coming back.
Wow...
So maybe this is where all those conspiracy loons come up with their tartaria civilization bunko...
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The funny thing is, his story was inspired by European and Near East history so he couldn't conceive how different name and language were in the actual East. If you were to tell most European back then actual Chinese, Japanese and Korean names they woudn't believe you because it sounds too different
I'm not sure anyone cares, but in the first reading assignment of the week in history, my professor cited Gavin Menzies not once, but twice and acted like the idea that the Minoans (yes the bronze age ones) and the Chinese both had colonies in the Americas (and the Minoans in the great lakes region) was just as likely as Vikings coming over
WHAT? 👀👀👀👀
Yikes
As a Taiwanese, I don't know anything about this. It's so intriguing.
Man, people several hundred years ago sure did love their run-on sentences.
This dude was a grade A troll and got really committed to the bit
If I buy a ridge wallet will you release my children? I miss them so much...
Everyone is missing the point. He clearly comes from an alternate timeline.
when i heard "and then the chinese left and preserved the independent government." I couldn't help but break into laughter
the fact that japan technically had an emperor but was ruled by the shogunate makes this even sadder.
So this guy's excuse for not looking Taiwanese at all was that the upperclass were basically just Dwarves?
> 1704
> Formosa, Subject of the Emperor of Japan
Well we're off to a good start.
I love these vids!
Excellent video. Happy to see this series back
Joseph Smith gave this dude a run for his money. How about a bad history of the Book of Mormon?
Joseph Smith was called a prophet, dumdumdumdumdum
Of course he probably wouldn’t, there’s already a musical about it made by the same guys who made South Park, I’m sure they did an amazing job with lampooning that book about Jesus and the Holy Land being in America
In that sense every religious scripture is bad history.
I do believe Joseph Smith is a prophet of God and that Jesus is the Christ
In the word "chazadijn", as a native japanese speaker, I can confidently say that at least one of the syllables actually exists in the japanese language
His books could make great alternate history books
Cat-Man, you are wrong.
Ever hear of The Divinci Code?
Can't wait for this series to cover The History Channel and even other HistoryTubers, but it's thoroughly entertaining to learn about these now-unknown weirdos
I have decided to forgive you for not fanatically loving the warhammer map like I do
Seriously though great vid man, love everything you do
Bro I love your bad history videos
Fun fact: During the 1600s, England also knew Formosa as "Tywan", which is pronounced just like "Taiwan", and is a 17th century Anglicisation of the Chinese name.
Thanks for reading us the Wiki on Psalmanazar.
Bold of you to assume that Georgie didn’t know something we don’t.
What if he was a time traveler?
This actually sounds like what a time traveler would do if they were stranded in the 17th century.
He makes Marco Polo look like an angel. I think at least Polo tried to get it right not making it up out of whole cloth like this guy. Perhaps you could to a critique of The Travels of Marco Polo aka Book of the Marvels of the World aka Il Milione.
Seems like an interesting practice in world-building
I'm french, Southern French there is a whole clique of weird funny and absurd characters like a Guy who was a merchant and did ... some weird things ? .... 😂😂
Explain
Don't expect him to mention the Spanish. This was England. If they hated someone more than the catholics then, it was the Spanish.
Which coincidentaly where catholics, so they double hated them.
Compulsive lying is a hell of a drug.
This guy should have his own movie.
It almost seems like he was trying to write something like Utopia or Gulliver's Travels as a comment on society. Almost.
Wait,so by lieing that he is Taiwanese(Formosan) he could wright a book about Formosa that is Fictional/Alternate History,but when tried to do it normaly he couldn't do it. And everybody forgot abput him lieing,so....he could have pretended that he was native american and then he could wright Fic/Alt history.
(Sorry for my english)
I wanna do this if I had a time machine.
Weird. Robinson Crusoe (Daniel Dafoe) seemed to have a decent understanding of Asia and he never went there.
I like that guy. It's just a conman, but instead of modern day, it's 1700.
Also taking a name from sth diffrent and changing it a bit to make it less obvious, just like me when writing RPG stuff.
They need to make this a film
The music reminds me of someone ending watermelon rightly.
Could the the invasion by tartary by based off of the failed mongol invasion of Japan? Tartar was also the generic name for steppe people for western europeans.
Somehow out of all of this the most ridiculous part to me is that he claims that Taiwan was conquered by Japan even though by 1600 the emperor was a complete figurehead under the Tokugawa shogunate all the way until the Meiji restoration in the 19th century
Hey, my family is from Formosa (now called Taiwan), GET THIS IMPOSTER!
I can't go to the video without laughing 😂😂😂.
He was the biggest troll of the 18th century
This is beautiful. We need this man as our President. George Psalmanazar 2020.
Well, to be fair he tried with Chazadijin. Just remove the "di" to turn it into Chazajin. Jin even means person in Japanese so that's kind of funny.
The whole creating his own language thing was also kind of impressive in a way. Might as well go all out, huh?
"A Historical and Geographical description of Formosa an island subjected to the emperor of Japan"
Me: Oh cool so it's written in the late 19th century? Very interesting
Author: *Is born around 1690*
Me: o h
Ironically really good history
Fascinating.
George was quite the character
Sounds like a previous version of "Dr Yosef Ben-Jochannan"
I have seen a historical/archaeological theory on the internet about Polynesians arriving in South America before Columbus.
Do you consider that ok or bad history/archaeology?
What was the book called?
I'd class it under ongoing debate. Last I heard there wasn't really enough evidence to prove or disprove it.
I love these
Low laying fruit man, low laying fruit.
Lets Just apriciate he read IT all
A quick read?
You...
Ah jevermind.
At least a preety good fanfic by my standars.
Pls Melon, give me back my child, I bought 20 of those wallets. Oh wait wrong channel
good video but you forgot some A's in "Psalmanaazaar"
6:06 I'm sure Arya Stark/No One will find that suspicious.
So he got the years for both the Qing and the Japanese conquest wrong, the former would be fairly doable for him to find out and the latter wouldn't happen for a long time after his death. I think this is pretty clear evidence he was a time traveller - getting the dates of bronze age conflicts wrong by 200 years is pretty bad, but can happen of the cuff, so I propose Psalmanazar must have been born around the 5000s. Him keeping his real name and origin a secret is just further evidence of this since that is *exactly* what a time traveller would do
So... he was the master troll of the XVIII Century?
7:40
Emperor Chazadjin? More like Emperor Higashiyama.
This sounds like Mormon “”””””””history””””””
Oh the Mormon books would fit this series well, if you’re not afraid of offending a cult offshoot the Christian cult
Still more historically accurate than Ancient Aliens.
Hahaha, thinking that writing books that make up country's history won't sell a lot of copies... sweet summer child.
That guy actually kinda rocks