Wales and wallonnia have the same roots as "Welsch" in german, meaning a latin culture such as the french or italians. A few centuries ago, it meant "foreign" in germanic languages. Think of the anglo saxons, that called welsh people welsh because they were celtic, or foreign. This is also the reason for why it's called wallonia, because it is what the dutch called the french people there. I don't know about wallachia however.
@@chillig771 Same goes with Wallachia, derived from vlach meaning foreigner, it's an exonym and not what the inhabitants called it, which would be literally translated as "The Romanian Land".
@@t.w.a.i.n. except that Vlach is a Dacian tribe and Dacians are the native inhabitants pre-dating Celtic migration into the region but I suppose the Greeks who'd been interacting with them for thousands of years must be liars
Or Galatia, in Anatolia. Some scholars hypothesize that all three have some sort of Celtic origin, although I haven't been convinced yet in the case of Halychyna
Also Ruthenia, which in the 19th century was used to describe Ukraine, was in medieval times divided into Red, black and white Ruthenias. Volhynia, Western Belarus and Ukraine, Eastern Belarus respectively.
The thing with Galicia in Poland and Ukraine comes from the times of partisions. The Austians named their gain as "Galicia and Lodomeria", which was kind of a reference to a historic dutchy of Halicz (Halych) and Włodzimierz (Vladimir), centered around those cities. The population of native german speakers didn't knew how to properly pronounce it, so they changed few letters and the never heard before name has been created, and it bacame a base for some jokes. The change from Halych to Galicia may be also influenced by confusion caused by some slavic languages switching "h" with "g".
@@maslanyowca8279 Very true, although the reason the Austrians used that name was because it was part of the Hungarian royal title. I do not recall which, but one Hungarian king came and conquered Halychyna and Volhynia. The Rus' drove them back to Hungary, yet the Hungarian Kings maintained a claim to the throne. It was their Latinization that produced the term "Galicia and Lodomeria"
@Cghcf I thought Wales derived from what the Germanic peoples called non-Germanic peoples. The reconstructed proto-Germanic word was *Walhaz, and is where words like Wallonia and Vlach came from
Migration period obviously caused a lot of this as well. If you asked a Roman to point to Lombardia, Burgundia, Francia or Anglia they'd all be in very different places to today. The Roman would also likely be quite concerned by their modern locations.
@@eironn__ While playing as Albania: "All provinces in the Iberia and Caucasia regions are owned by the player's country or its non-tributary subjects."
@@don_p7546 Depends on what you really want to play really. EU4 is more complex than HoI4 and has a longer timeline (1444-1822) that said HoI4 isn't a short game either. Also EU4 has a lot of what I consider "vital DLCs", as in the game should've had these for free and isn't the same without them. In HoI4, yes there's also this problem but not on the same level as EU4. Plus on HoI4 you also have acces to some full conversion mods like Kaiserreich, Modern Day, WW1. Haven't played either game in a while so don't know how the newer updates are but in the end it's your choice on what timeline interests you more: a larger one going from the late middle ages to modern times or a shorter WW2 one.
@@don_p7546 Just chipping in here... EU4 IMO is the better game, much more replay value! HOI4 does play out a lot quicker so its much better for actually reaching the end of the game, bc most EU4 saves wont make it to 1800 :P
alemanni was an old german state in the time of the romans, and now thats what us latin speakers call it, me an hispanic, calls germany "Alemania" after the state
Misconceptions about kyrgyzs: 1)"Kyrgyz" referred to the nation living in sourthwest Siberia in ancient and early medieval times. The part of Siberian Kyrgyzs assimilated with other nations; others moved southward. 2) Then, Russian colonists called kazakhs as "kyrgyzs". This fact confused me when I read 19th century sources about kazakhs Only after USSR was established, the misconception between kazakhs and kyrgyzs was clarified
Who else watches Drew Durnil, ISP, and Alex the Rambler? also here's a quote "No no no no not this Albania, This Albania." only true fans will get it..
It's a UN regions map I think. It doesn't split up nations into more than one region so all of Russia gets lumped together. European Turkey gets stuck in the West Asia region as well.
That map makes zero sense. How are baltic countries northern european? They have nothing to do with denmark, sweden or norway. Are they just so insecure about being called eastern european?
"Alba" just mean "white" in latin. One of the well known french bad name for Great Britain is "perfide albion" that means "the perfidious white", "white" is there for the white cliff of Dover that you can see from France. You can ear "Alba" in albino, albaster, albatros, etc... always things related to the white colour.
Another one: Modern Benin was once called Dahomey, and the neighboring kingdom in modern day Nigeria was called Benin. On independence Dahomey decided it was going to start calling itself Benin, while actual Benin had been subsumed into Nigeria.
Benin did call itself Dahomey when it became independent from France until 1975, when Communist rule took over and they renamed it Benin. Even after Communism fell in Benin in 1990, the name stayed.
I have a good one: back in the Antiquity, Cartago had colonies in the Iberian Peninsula, and one of them was called "Cartago Nova" (New Cartago). Even when the Roman Empire exterminated Cartago, that city in the Iberian Peninsula kept it's name, and eventually, it changed to "Cartagena". Later, when Castille was colonizing America, they named a city "Cartagena de Indias", which in our days is in Colombia, and doesn't has any relation with the original Cartago!
For New Zealand Māori, the name of the ancestral homeland is actually "Hawaiki" or "Rangiātea". "Havai'i" is an archaic name for "Ra'iātea" in the Tahitian language. Fun fact: it is not an uncommon place name across Polynesia, for example; Samoa's largest island is named Savai'i, and an archaic name for the island of Rarotonga in the Cook Islands is 'Avaiki.
In Argentina we have a region that it's calling Mesopotamia and (fun fact) in this region there is a province calling Entre rios (literally ''between rivers'').
@@tomatensoup190 not really and yes kind of, mesopotamia literally means between rivers and the area in argentina is between 2 rivers just like the area in the middle east so they settled for that name
Because the Bulgar Khaganate collapsed under the pressure of the Khazars, Bulgar tribes moved in all directions but only two founded new Kingdoms, one in the Volga (known as Volga-Bulgaria) and another in the Danube, known as Danube-Bulgaria or first Bulgarian Empire. The Slavs who occupied the land below Danube-Bulgaria were subjected to the new Khaganate and adopted the name of their conquerors.
@@julianfejzo4829 that is not how an ethic identity works though. Modern Bulgarians and chuvash people are the only ethic groups who have the right to claim a Bulgar ancestry. Be it cultural or historical. Genetics play a smaller role in the formation of one's cultural and ethnic identity. All of us balkaners care mostly genetic material from the Anatolian farmers who migrated , populated and introduced agriculture in europe in the early Neolithic period 7000-6000 years ago. We also have a considerable amount of genetic similarity to the first homo sapiens who populated the region- the western hunter-gathrers aka chader men. And only after those two come the indoeuropeans( slavs , daco-thracians , ilirians, ancient greeks etc. ) from whom we ve inherited between 25 to 35 percents genetic material. And yet we usually claim only their ancestry, and are not completely wrong to do so. Bulgaria was and still is the successor of Great old Bulgaria and the 2 Bulgarian empires.
@@historyrhymes1701 actually sometimes it kinda does, Palestinians for example are named after the Philistines who dwelled in modern day gaza, because Greeks decided to not call the land Canaan or Israel which was the dominant kingdom at the time and instead called it palestina, the Romans later adopted the name to humiliate the Jews and because they had a thing for emulating greeks. Modern palestinians however have no direct descent from Philistines but are rather a mixture of the lands various inhabitants and conquerors, mainly the Jews, Greeks, Arabs and Turks, ain't that ironic, named after the jews sworn enemies while being related genetically to the Jews instead of Philistines
@Tee Wew28 No, the Bulgars originated in what is now Southern Ukraine and when their first Khanate collapsed, the various princes moved across Europe, two of them founded two kingdoms, one in the Danube and another one in the Volga.
you won't believe that in 8th century chinese people met with bulgarian in middle aisa. but middle aisa isn't their homeland neither. both of european bulgaria and middle asian bulgaria were from siberia
@@scottbellhouse As Uncle Radko said - not exactly. Bulgaria (or what the Byzantines called "Old Great Bulgaria") "started off" immediately to the north of the Caucasus mountains, between the Black and Caspian seas. Then it broke off into several groups, one of which moved north to the Volga (whose name sounds similar, but is probably unrelated to the Bulgars), another moved to the Danube, some moved to Pannonia (modern Hungary), to Macedonia and to Italy (and earlier on one group had moved to Armenia). One group also stayed behind in the Caucasian area and it might be related to modern Kabardino-Balkaria there. Anyway, for about half a millennium there were at least two countries with the Bulgarian name - one on the Danube, in the Balkans (which still exists) and another on the Volga (which got destroyed by the Mongols and is today the Russian federal republic of Tatarstan). Interestingly enough, the Danubian Bulgarians became Christians, the Volga Bulgars became Muslims and the Black Bulgars who stayed in the Caucasian area under the Khazars probably converted to Judaism, i.e. those three Bulgar branches converted to the three Abrahamic religion. There's also another interesting parallel where Hungary got established next to the Danubian Bulgaria, whereas Volga Bulgaria got established next to the Hungarian homeland, Great Hungary (both Hungaries also existed in parallel for a few centuries - the western ones became Catholics, while the eastern ones remained Pagan). TL;DR: There were several places and countries carrying the Bulgar name, sometimes at the same time. Likewise, there's the Ethiopia in Africa, but at the same time the ancient and medieval writers also spoke of an Ethiopia in the Indo-Iranian area (I kind of expected this double-Ethiopia to be mentioned in the video, but sadly it was not).
There are a few other interesting examples of this: Peru is likely named after Biru, a native leader who lived in southern Panama. The Spanish adopted his name to first refer to southern Panama, then extended it to everything south of Panama, and the name eventually came to refer to the former Inca Empire. Madagascar derives from a misplacing and misspelling of Mogadishu in Somalia on European maps. California originally only referred to the Baja Peninsula. Azerbaijan originally only referred to what is now Iranian Azerbaijan and not the current country. The Kingdom of Congo was mostly located in Angola, and Bhutan was originally an alternative name for Tibet.
I'm Peruvian. This is wrong. The origin is disputed but it certainly is unrelated to Panamá. Panamá was Panamá and it was explored relatively early. Peru was explored long after Panamá. Not just that, the expedition to explore Peru sailed FROM Panamá, in ships assembled in Panamá itself all the way until it landed around the area of modern Piura, Perú. The expedition ventured inland towards Cajamarca to meet the Emperor. The Conquest took OVER 10 YEARS and all the while there was no Peru, just Inca Empire, then for even more decades an Inca Empire with an Emperor that swore fealty to Spain (the dead emperor's younger brother). Panama continued developing while Spain negotiated with Peruvian native nobles to join and this went on for decades on end. Most likely, the name is after a river near the landing site that in Quechua is called Piruw. The Viceroyalty of Peru was born in Lima, right in the middle of modern Peru, and it was given authority over the rest of the western half of the continent only because of the few hundred Spaniards living south of Panama, most of them happened to be in Peru. And of those capable to be administrators, ALL were in Peru. After population grew to more real levels it was split. But it's not because Peru started as a thing in Panama and then expanded to modern Peru, not at all. It started in Lima.
That is completely false. I study this for my spanish Independant Research Project and Peru comes from the kingdom of Piru, the nation in the Andes from where started the Incan Empire.
This is so incredibly important. When we read old texts or hear old stories, it's important for historians to consider things like "maybe that place wasn't where it is today" or "maybe that word didn't mean the same thing for them at that time that we thought it did" or "maybe their concept of time and/or place was simply I correct".
There was a Del Taco by my place and they built a new one right next door to it. When they completed building the new one, they tore down the old one. Thus the Del Taco effectively moved.
There are many examples of this migration of peoples in Europe, one of the most famous being Bulgaria. The Bulgars used to live along the Volga, but today Bulgaria is located in the Balkans. Turkey is another famous one. There were essentially no Turks living there until the Seljuks invaded the Byzantines, this led to the Turkification of Anatolia which led to the rise of the Ottomans, who completed this Turkification.
The bulgars began in ukraine, then they got forced out and two groups became a thing: thr volga bulgars, who went to the volga river and danubian bulgars
Croatia too. Before the Slavic migration, there was an area in what is now the Southern Poland, that was called White Croatia. Croats eventually moved south into Dalmatia and Pannonia
I was always really confused about where saxony was- as an Englishman, I have seen it in east Germany despite my assumption before that it would be where it originally was so migration to England would be possible. Thanks for explaining that.
Dutch province of Groningen also identifies as saxon (saksisch) but is closed in between two frysian provinces (one in NL to the west and one in DE to east).
It was mainly the Angles of modern Schleswig who came to England and settled. Hence the name of Old English - Anglisc. Anglo-Saxon the word came about since it was a Saxon kingdom which made England.
Another interesting example we have in Italy: "Calabria" was in Roman times the name of the south-eastern peninsula that is now called "Salento"; today Calabria is the name of another region in the south-western tip of Italy.
Correction: The Māori word for the homeland where they started from is Hawaiki, not Havai'i, although Havai'i may be from a similar Polynesian language. The point still stands, it bears striking resemblance
@@KauriTearaura I was going to make zp3413's point, but you've added to it. Interestingly, Hawaiki renders to Savai'i in Samoan, which is the name of the big island in the Samoan archipelago
@@fitmotheyap what?we even created them the alphabet and gave them literacy and spread religion to them,also influenced their language,it would of been smarter if u said that Russia is big Bulgaria,but still thats not true.
Portugal did not transfer to Brazil, only the capital of Portugal, besides Brazil becoming a united kingdom with Portugal, but everything lasted only for a few years ~ sorry for the bad english
The transference of the Portuguese Capital to Rio de Janeiro is an overrated meme. It was a pointless symbolic gesture by a petty king to pretend Napoleon didn't take the Portuguese Capital when he absolutely did, without any resistance. Also, it was in 1808. By 1815 the Portuguese, alongside the Spaniards and the British, had already driven the French from Iberia, and the France had collapsed
Ninad Kashyap correct. However I was expecting a large noticeable movement over the scale of human civilization , in a very noticeable way. That is what I was referring to
Interesting anomaly: Ancient DNA has established a curious link between the ancient Illyrians (i.e. inhabitants of Croatia, Albania, et al) and a significant number of contemporary Iberians and Southern French.
I've heard a theory that the most "pure" Illyrians are Albanians, but that Illyrians could be the ancestors of really important ethnicities in Europe- most especially the latins, and perhaps the germans. Some include celts too. Although it would be a real game changer to know one culture split into three significant but different cultures that kept overlaping on each other and evolving; there is not enough evidence to conclude anything with the current research, so it is best to not attempt to debate this until more has been found. And to be fair, I have huge doubts on this theory myself, I just find it interesting to visualise.
pink doe *politically* Russia is an Eastern European country. Geographically though Siberia is Asia. But Siberia doesn’t have access to the Pacific Ocean like many foreigners think. Russia’s Far East does.
Fun little example in regards to albania: When the romans discovered britain they named the island Albion. Britannia was only established as a term when they conquered whats now England and Wales. But collectively, a grammatically correct way to refer to the inhabitants of a place known as Albion would be, in latin, to call them Albanians.
@@tomatensoup190 The word Albion is derived from albus meaning white because when the romans reached whats Calais today they saw what we call the cliffs of Dover, and theyre white.
@@tomatensoup190 Thats... an interesting leap of logic to think i was talking about Albinos when i was talking about why the romans called britain albion. But well, i guess albinism is named after the fact that people who have it usually appear to have a very light, almost white skin.
Another interesting example is Congo. The name comes from the medieval Kingdom of Kongo of the Bakongo people, which occupied only the western most regions of the modern Congo countries and the northern provinces of Angola. Now, the name of this kingdom has been extended all the way to parts of the Great Lakes Region, to regions next to South Sudan, and grassland Luba regions in the southeast. Completely different from the original name.
Sorry for necro, but if you go even deeper, Spain didn't even exist at the time, it was the "Spanish monarchy", because the kingdoms of Iberia were called collectively the "Spains", with the Spanish Netherlands being by themselves a series of titles and not a united "Kingdom/Duchy of Belgium/the Netherlands"
@macaco860 It was territory of the kingdom of Spain, but as @Mellamo Mellamo said Spain didn't exist at the time. It was a sort of union between the existing Spanish kingdoms. Castille Aragon and Navarre. Also, Spain at the time was called Habsburg Spain because it was ruled by Habsburg kings. It only got the Spanish Netherlands because it was in a personal union with the states that were in said Spanish Netherlands, and also because the Spanish Monarchy was ruled by a Habsburg king. Simply put, Belgium belonged to Spain that one time because Spain was ruled by a Habsburg king and was also in a personal union with the states that were in Belgium.
The name Wyoming has also moved over time. Originally used for the Connecticut settlement now located in Northeast Pennsylvania (modern day Wilkes-Barre), it would serve as namesake for the state of Wyoming; this being, perhaps, due in part to the poem "Gertrude of Wyoming".
Asia is another example of this as it was originally a name for Anatolia (modern day Turkey) and the Persian Empire (which controlled most of that region).
*Armenia, Bulgaria, Kyrgyzstan, and Vietnam* are also *further examples of countries* which have *moved* over *vast distances* from their ancestral or historic homeland.
3 cases like that with Anatolia: 1. Anatolia was the "Asia", ancient Greeks used the name Asia to refer to Anatolia and not the huge continent. This is why Anatolia is also referred to as Asia Minor sometimes. 2. Before Turks migrated to Anatolia, Turkey was Central Asia (or Türkistan by Turks themselves) which is why place Uyghurs live is called East Turkestan today. 3. Anatolia was called Rûm, which literally meant Rome.
I live in a Dutch province called Gelderland, which started out as a duchy about 100 km to the south. It lost its ancestral homelands over time and now it's only the northern part still bearing this name, so effectively it has moved to the north by a significant margin.
The whole thing with Henry the lion and his rebellion against the emperor leading to the red part in 1:40 being all whats left of the red in 1:36 would probably have been an important point to bring up.
*Another example of which would be the name "palestine."* Palestine is originally a Hebrew and ancient Egyptian word known as "Plishtim" (invaders/thieves) which was labeled to the Greek Aegean sea people that invaded both Egypt and Israel in antiquity. The term was later translated back to Greek as the infamous "Philistines" who occupied an area of land slightly larger than the Gaza strip today. The term died after the Babylonian occupation of Israel, and with it the subsequent extinction of the Philistine people. Records of these people were ironically sourced from the Torah until the modern era with archeological excavations and finds to prove extra-biblically. The term was rebranded by the Romans after the Bar Kockba Revolts after Emperor Hadrian smashed the Jewish uprising and renamed the province from "Iudea" to "Syria-Palestina." He purposely chose this name knowing that the Jews and Philistines were arch ancient enemies. *This meant that these originally foreign people from the Greek islands that managed to occupy a strip of coast land in Israel in antiquity, now represent a totally different people and a region that isn't exactly near the original site of the term and people.*
I like when the Roman's lost a territory and changed names. Like when aurelian abandoned Dacia, but part of moesia's name changed to Dacia to make it seem the prince didnt really disappear but simply moved. Another interesting case was the late roman province of Europas was the area in south east thrace including constantinople. Despite the fact that for some time the entire continent was referred to as europe.
Nestor Original By That Logic Bulgaria is Greek land. Even during Byzantine Times Slavs populated what is today the Republic Of North Macedonia since the 600s. And Greece doesn’t inherit Byzantine claims this isn’t no Eu4. Why not complain about Northern Epirus which actually has Greeks in it.
The v>w change in Hawaiian is not conjecture, it's really clearly fact. You're right that there's some question about why they picked that name. (And the actual homeland of Polynesian peoples is - well, the huge expansion and exploration that spread Polynesian culture to its full modern extent came from Tonga about seven hundred years ago, the Austronesian peoples of whom Polynesians are a subgroup came from Taiwan, and exactly where the specifically Polynesian part of the expansion started isn't entirely clear.)
Honestly, having two regions bear the same name is too confusing and weird. Plus, I think the “migration” of Saxony was more of an expansion in a way. Just not the traditional kind. So if we unite Saxony in eastern Germany with Lower Saxony and Saxony-Anhalt, we would have a larger region of Saxony. So, in my case, what was once Saxony has now, in modern times, become three states that have consequently divided it.
It was not a division, though, it was territories expanding into one direction while losing their possessions in the other one, i.e. very close to actual shifting. The Duchy of Saxony (in Lower Saxony) was a very prestigious title in the early HRE. The ruling family holding that title lost most of their possessions in actual (Lower) Saxony but still held on to the title when their territory was mostly in modern Saxony-Anhalt. After that, the family of Wettin, ruling a larger territory to the southeast, the Margraves of Meissen, i.e. modern-day Saxony, inherited these lands and the title, calling themselves Dukes (and Electors) of Saxony from now on because that was the more prestigious title - despite having absolutely no possessions in former (Lower) Saxony. Lower Saxony was split between various states of the HRE, with Lower Saxony being used as an overarching regional name for administrative purposes of the HRE. None of these states was actually called Saxony-anything at that point. (Instead, large parts of modern Thuringia were split between various principalities with "Saxony" in their name because they were ruled by a branch of the Wettin family. That's why there is the family Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, with Coburg and Gotha being Thuringian cities at the time. In the early 19th century, the Electors (now Kings) of Saxony lost their possessions in Saxony-Anhalt to Prussia which called their new territory "Provinz Sachsen", i.e. the Province of Saxony. At this point, Saxony became what it is today. After WW2, when Prussia was split up, various smaller provinces and states were united in the northwest, taking the collective name of "Lower Saxony". At the same time, the former Prussian Province of Saxony united with the smaller principalities of Anhalt to form the state of Saxony-Anhalt. Saxony remained Saxony. So at no point in time did all three parts called "Saxony" today belong to a single state. Instead, the title was passed on from one dynasty to another over time, being used for its prestige, even though they ruled over wildly different regions.
OK, but what about places that have actually _moved._ As in, physically changed location, usually due to geological activity. This is suspected to have happened to some particularly ancient locations.
History can be so confusing sometimes. Especially when studying about the Caucasus, Anatolia, and the Armenian highlands. The Turks call the Armenian highland as Eastern Anatolia... even though the word Anatolia means "East". So how can a region be called "Eastern East"? The Caucasus is another interesting one. Almost every old map I've seen in the Caucasus the regions have always been labeled as "Georgia, Armenia, Iberia, or Caucasian Albania". But then you wonder, where did Iberia and Caucasian Albania go to? Well, it seems like countless amount of occupation from different empires, such as Mongols, Arabs, Russians, Ottomans, Persians, etc have changed the demographics and people there. Old countries and people dissolve, new states and new settlements emerge. I believe that the only two ethnicities from the original inhibitors of the Caucasus that still exist today are Georgians and Armenians. Azerbaijan, while it's an independent state, was not the original inhibitors of the territory. I'm not trying to insult anyone with Azerbaijani decent, but I've never seen an old map that had the name "Azerbaijan" on it.
The augustan region of Apulia et Calabria in the "heel" of Italy today is the region of Puglia while the name Calabria switched to the "tip of the boot"; the region now known as Calabria in ancient times was known as Bruttium and even earlier as Italia
3:55 "The V to W was a language change over time." Actually the name of Hawaii is still pronounced "Havai'ee" by natives. The W was a change made by Anglos. So it's literally the same word.
@emperortigerstar this video brought up a memory from high school. Our Spanish teacher was from the Basque country area of Spain. He told us that the Basque language was unconnected to any other European language except some in Eastern Europe. In trying to link to something to show this to you I learned that this theory is mostly discredited now. (Search for Basque-Georgian hypothesis)
Makes me think of how my CK3-EU4 mega campaign yielded a bunch of successful crusader states which reformed empires. It made me panic when I got the notification for the War of the Roses while playing the UK. Then I found out that some territories with English culture seceded from Persia and was led by the Tutors and was named England despite being in the middle of Iraq. That was something.
Hawaii is an interesting place name. It has appeared as Savaii, Havaiki, Hawai'i, Owyhee, and so on and so forth, and may have first applied to ancient Taiwan or even China, and spread as far as a river in Oregon, in mainland North America.
Richard Rabinowitz I think it’s pretty clear that the name points to the big island of Savai’i in Samoa. Anciently, it would have been called Savaiki. I’ve never heard about it being traced back to Taiwan. I know the Austronesians were traced back to Taiwan, but I didn’t know about the name Hawaii being traced back like that.
2:24 the current country has called itself Ethiopia for about 2 thousand years, but originally the named actually referred to what is now Sudan. Sudan itself was actually originally a name for the entire Sahel region across Central and West Africa, and the current name for what has historically been named Nubia originated from what I can tell in the British colonial period (they controlled part of the Sudan, so they called it "Anglo-Egyptian Sudan"
It's worth noticing that many African countries have names that mean just "Land of the Black" in different languages: Niger, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Soudan, maybe also Guinea...
The Iberian Peninsula's name isn't just a modern designation. In Classical Antiquity, the Ancient Greeks called it Ἰβηρία (Ibería), and they called its people Iberians. The Iberian Peninsula received its Greek name several centuries before Caucasian Iberia did. So Iberia never "moved", there was just a time when a nation in the Caucasus received the same exonym.
@@mackycabangon8945 that's another example of this sort of thing. "Gujarat" was originally the Rajasthan-malwa area, the Homeland of the Gurjara-Pratihara people, it shifted to the saurashtra region after the Rajputs expanded there and moved to the surat-broach area in the Islamic consists when the sultanate of Gujarat conquered it, are conquered by the Mughals and the region was made the main port of the empire
James A Clouder Punjab just means land of five rivers, and is used to refer to the Indus basin, whose tributaries like the Kabul River, etc come from there. Also the Panjab empire ruled those lands for a while
There's any state who has literally moved over time? Like, change their borders so much that the territory the state ocuppies after a while is in a complete different position than it was in the beginning? Almost as if crawled to another place? If there is, you could make a video about it
One I like, and I thought you'd mention, is Andalusia. At first 'Andalusia' seems pretty clearly connected to that region roughly in southern Spain. However, when you put a 'V' before the first 'A' you see where the name comes from. 'Vandalucia' was actually only very briefly controlled by the Vandals during the migration period, as they were pushed by the Visigoths (maybe the Alans? I don't remember...) into their most well-known home abode: Northern Africa, around Carthage. Another fun coincidence you could have put in is the mythical island of 'Hy-Brezil' to the west of Ireland and the later discovered Brazil.
That mythical island actually can just be called Brasil, which exacly the name Brazil has in it's native language. This makes me wonder why there are places which considentaly have the exact same names yet others are named with the criativity of a toddler, E.g. nEwFOundLaND.
It's also funny how the Fatimid Empire also kinda just slided from northwestern Africa into the Middle East. The way it moved is kinda unique in world history.
And Australia is oceania, Portugal at the most western tip of europe, yet it isn't western europe, Iran isn't with the other middle eastern countries, eastern europe goes all the way to the pacific, this map isn't perfect, nor does it look like it was made to look perfect
@@clairfayne True, but what Luke didn't say was that Maori say their ancestral land was called Hawaiki, not Havai'i. And in that case, they would probably say it was Hawhai'i, and it makes sense that at some point maybe Hawaiki was shortened to Hawai'i and then Hawaii.
In Indonesia, Riau was a sultanate in islands located between the Strait of Malacca and South China Sea, east of Sumatra island. The capital was Tanjung Pinang City in Bintan Island. But now, Riau is always referred to a province in mainland Sumatra island with Pekanbaru as the capital city (due to the moving of the capital). The then-called-Riau Sultanate now is the province of "Riau Archipelago".
Prussia is kinda similar to the Saxony example. It started in the Baltic region, gained a bunch of land in northern Germany, then lost the original Prussia but still kept the name
If he turned his nation into a giant spacecraft to travel the galaxy, we'd be left with South Korea turning into Korea and the region which is known as the Korean Peninsula turning into the Korean Island.
I think they call themselves just "Korea" to legitimize their own existence and delegitimize South Korea's. Maybe they even call South Korea "Worst Korea" do denigrate their neighbors, who knows.
I'm surprised you didnt mention Bulgaria. They literally shifted from around Crimea and the Caucasus down to what we have today after hundreds of years
There is also the Bretagne region in France (in English Britain or Little Britain) that used to be called Armorica until the Britons moved from what is now England when the Anglo-Saxons invaded their island to Armorica, the peninsula changing its name according to the new population.
One of my favorites is probably Armenia. In the 1000s, the Kingdom of Armenia was taken over by the Byzantines and soon after by the Seljuk Turks. During this time, the Byzantines allowed former king of Armenia was allowed to rule a province of theirs called Cilicia, which is kind of in the northeast corner of the Mediterranean. Due to the danger of the Seljuk Turks in Armenia, a lot of Armenians went to live in Cilicia, as did others escaping Seljuk rule. Well, after some... stuff, the Armenian king was killed by the Byzantines and the Armenians declared independence. This would eventually stick, and a new Kingdom of Armenia was made in Cilicia, whose independence from Byzantines, Seljuks, and anyone else was ensured by the crusades that would soon occur. This didn't last and Armenia eventually went back to being in the Caucuses where it started. History is an odd one.
Things are a whole lot complicated than that. E.g. the Armenian nation had been expansive into Anatolia for centuries before the creation of the Armenian realm in Cilicia (Lesser Armenia: Principality: 1080-1198, Kingdom: 1198-1375). During the fight for the survival of the #EasternRomanEmpire against the threat of the Ummayad and the Abbasid Caliphates, the Armenian language and culture became welcome and popular in various regions of Anatolia, e.g Cappadocia, a historic region within the "theme of Armeniakon [Host]". An other region that got rapidly armenized, especially during the era that you are mentioning (~1000 CE), is the Tao Kuropalatat, the Tao-Klarjeti [home of the ancient tribe of the #Taochians] of #Zan/#Zanuri/#Tzanni/#Tzan natives who shifted their national allegiance to #Armenian. E.g both the #Mamikonian and the #Bagratid houses, used to be #Zannian, but gradually shifted to Armenian, although the #Bagrationi also united and refounded the Kingdom of #Sakartvelo / Iberia: 1008-1490. Modern Georgia, actually
Not sure if it really counts, but it blew my mind when I learned that Galatia (an area of Asia Minor that lent its name to Paul's Epistle to the Galatians) is name after the same Gauls that Caesar was conquering in Gaul (modern day France).
Two more: Liechtenstein was the name of a castle in Germany where the Liechtenstein family originated. Today it is the name of a country between Switzerland and Austria, that the Liechtenstein family used to own as personal property. Armenia used to be a Kingdom in what is today southeast Turkey. Today it is a country in the Caucasus.
The armenian part doesn't fit, because the people there just vanished without a trace, while in the other cases they either migrated or were different people
Here's a good one. Liguria was the homeland of the ancient Ligurian people on the Tyrrhenian coast of the Italian Riviera. Durring the Roman Period, Liguria had moved north of the Apennines into modern day Piedmont. And many centuries later, Liguria shifted back southward to the coast. History just loves hitting repeat sometimes.
Not in Iraq, I suppose. But elsewhere, it's still sometimes used. Jon Stewart's Daily Show had a segment called "Mess'o'Potamia" covering the Iraq War, for instance.
Florida was so poorly mapped for so long that place names kept moving around. For example, Boca Raton(es) originally referred to a place near Miami - about 30 miles south of the modern town and inlet of Boca Raton. Mayami (Miami) originally referred to what is now Lake Okeechobee, not the Miami area. The people in the Miami area called themselves Tekesta/Tequesta, which is the name of a modern municipality almost a hundred miles to the north, named after the long-gone natives because a developer was mistaken about where the tribe had actually lived. During the time the British owned Florida (1763-1783) they renamed a bunch of stuff after themselves, resulting in multiple Greenville Rivers (none of which stuck) and at least three separate and unrelated bodies of water in different parts of the peninsula named Hillsboro/Hillsborough which all surprisingly stuck as names (Hillsboro Inlet and River near Pompano Beach, Hillsborough River near Tampa, and Hillsboro River near Daytona Beach; the latter was finally renamed in the mid-20th century).
Funny how Mexico is always separated from NA because it's "not good enough" Although it's clearly in NA And Guatemala is more central Well this comment is gonna be ignored because I pointed out your arrogance (I'm not referring to the youtuber)
One more exemple : Armenia. In the XIth century, the Seldjuk turks came into Anatolia. They won the battle of Manzikert, and pushed westward. The small kingdom of Armenia, which was one of the first countries in the world which have been christianised, fall down. The population moved to the south west, and founded the kingdom of "little Armenia", in the Taurus mountains and in Cilicia. They were beaten by the Mamluks in the XIVth century.
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galicia - galicia - galatia - gallia - gaelige - wales - wallachia - wallonia
damn celts couldn't stay put
Also “Gaul”
We can thank the germans for the last three, along with wendland (in eastern germany), the windish march (slovenia) and cornwall.
Wales and wallonnia have the same roots as "Welsch" in german, meaning a latin culture such as the french or italians. A few centuries ago, it meant "foreign" in germanic languages. Think of the anglo saxons, that called welsh people welsh because they were celtic, or foreign. This is also the reason for why it's called wallonia, because it is what the dutch called the french people there. I don't know about wallachia however.
@@chillig771 Same goes with Wallachia, derived from vlach meaning foreigner, it's an exonym and not what the inhabitants called it, which would be literally translated as "The Romanian Land".
@@t.w.a.i.n. except that Vlach is a Dacian tribe and Dacians are the native inhabitants pre-dating Celtic migration into the region but I suppose the Greeks who'd been interacting with them for thousands of years must be liars
The Last example is like Galicia, in Spain, and Galicia-Volynia arround Poland and Ukraine
Or Galatia, in Anatolia. Some scholars hypothesize that all three have some sort of Celtic origin, although I haven't been convinced yet in the case of Halychyna
Also Ruthenia, which in the 19th century was used to describe Ukraine, was in medieval times divided into Red, black and white Ruthenias. Volhynia, Western Belarus and Ukraine, Eastern Belarus respectively.
The thing with Galicia in Poland and Ukraine comes from the times of partisions. The Austians named their gain as "Galicia and Lodomeria", which was kind of a reference to a historic dutchy of Halicz (Halych) and Włodzimierz (Vladimir), centered around those cities. The population of native german speakers didn't knew how to properly pronounce it, so they changed few letters and the never heard before name has been created, and it bacame a base for some jokes. The change from Halych to Galicia may be also influenced by confusion caused by some slavic languages switching "h" with "g".
@@maslanyowca8279 Very true, although the reason the Austrians used that name was because it was part of the Hungarian royal title. I do not recall which, but one Hungarian king came and conquered Halychyna and Volhynia. The Rus' drove them back to Hungary, yet the Hungarian Kings maintained a claim to the throne. It was their Latinization that produced the term "Galicia and Lodomeria"
@Cghcf I thought Wales derived from what the Germanic peoples called non-Germanic peoples. The reconstructed proto-Germanic word was *Walhaz, and is where words like Wallonia and Vlach came from
Migration period obviously caused a lot of this as well.
If you asked a Roman to point to Lombardia, Burgundia, Francia or Anglia they'd all be in very different places to today.
The Roman would also likely be quite concerned by their modern locations.
Old Roman looking at modern map and realizing that “Romania” (land of Romans) is now in Dacia would cause them to go mind blown
@@SomewhereInSerbia It should still be Dacia
"Romania" more properly would be North and Central Italy
@@SomewhereInSerbia A Roman from after the Aurelian retreat must be like 'Huh, so I guess Dacia would've actually been easy to defend"
@Constantinople they mean the same thing
Balsiefen well, except Anglia they didn’t exist in Roman times.
A suggestion for the next video: places that are in two places at once, like Georgia or Galicia.
Georgia is at three places at once. Georgia the country, Georgia in USA and South Georgia the Island next to the Falklands.
and Austria the Empire and Austria the Continent
Or in a million places at once, like half of the USA's cities
@@firstconsul7286 I swear, there are like 2000 Berlins on the map 👁️
@@mario7049 www.geodatos.net/en/homonymous-cities/berlin
i found 9 Berlins, from which 6 are in the US ;)
Now I finally understand the "Albania or Iberia" EU4 achievement.
And what is it
@@eironn__ While playing as Albania: "All provinces in the Iberia and Caucasia regions are owned by the player's country or its non-tributary subjects."
Alin Alexandru mate can you help me? Which game should I buy, hearts of iron 4 or europa universalis 4? I really can’t decide
@@don_p7546 Depends on what you really want to play really. EU4 is more complex than HoI4 and has a longer timeline (1444-1822) that said HoI4 isn't a short game either. Also EU4 has a lot of what I consider "vital DLCs", as in the game should've had these for free and isn't the same without them. In HoI4, yes there's also this problem but not on the same level as EU4. Plus on HoI4 you also have acces to some full conversion mods like Kaiserreich, Modern Day, WW1. Haven't played either game in a while so don't know how the newer updates are but in the end it's your choice on what timeline interests you more: a larger one going from the late middle ages to modern times or a shorter WW2 one.
@@don_p7546 Just chipping in here... EU4 IMO is the better game, much more replay value! HOI4 does play out a lot quicker so its much better for actually reaching the end of the game, bc most EU4 saves wont make it to 1800 :P
Fun fact: the Irish name for England is Sasana. Which means (you guessed it) Saxony
Much as how the Finnish word for Germans is "saksa".
alemanni was an old german state in the time of the romans, and now thats what us latin speakers call it, me an hispanic, calls germany "Alemania" after the state
@@Nebulae-KUN Hey Arabs call Germans that too, written ألمانيا
@@abbanf i mean a ton of words in spanish come from arabic so i would imagine its similar lol
@@Nebulae-KUN "Almanya" we call them in Turkey
Misconceptions about kyrgyzs:
1)"Kyrgyz" referred to the nation living in sourthwest Siberia in ancient and early medieval times. The part of Siberian Kyrgyzs assimilated with other nations; others moved southward.
2) Then, Russian colonists called kazakhs as "kyrgyzs". This fact confused me when I read 19th century sources about kazakhs
Only after USSR was established, the misconception between kazakhs and kyrgyzs was clarified
Yerassyl Mukhamediyar Жили в юртах с голой жопой - стали продвинутой страной.
«Российские колониалисты»
@@Restrocket полезный идиот
@BZQF0987654321 Qwertyuiop "useful idiot" in Russian, regarding to the Commie above
@@SerpMolot Бля, вроде коммунист, а то что Царская Россия была колониальной державой не знаешь, как так-то.
Слава Киргизий!
**Looks at the thumbnail**
*Drew Durnil would like to know your location.*
What does Drew have to do with Iberia, European or Caucasian?
@@perfectlyfine1675
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Switching Albania with... ALBANIA!
h1mb that’s why he is great
Who else watches Drew Durnil, ISP, and Alex the Rambler?
also here's a quote "No no no no not this Albania, This Albania."
only true fans will get it..
The only thing I'm wondering about is why Siberia is considered Eastern Europe on that map
The Great CooLite,
Same for me. It looks weird.
It's a UN regions map I think. It doesn't split up nations into more than one region so all of Russia gets lumped together. European Turkey gets stuck in the West Asia region as well.
That map makes zero sense. How are baltic countries northern european? They have nothing to do with denmark, sweden or norway. Are they just so insecure about being called eastern european?
I think Iran is the most egregious issue
@@aabbccdd4710"nothing to do with Scandinavia." *Cries in Estonian
In Irish, Scotland is knows as “albain” and Albania is knows as “albáin”
The Gaelic for "Scotland" is "Alba"
Scotland is supposedly named after an Egyptian Princess named Scotta who fled to Ireland and married a Chieftain.
That's fascinating.
@@Bluesonofman wrong, the scoti tribe of ulster landed in the North West
"Alba" just mean "white" in latin. One of the well known french bad name for Great Britain is "perfide albion" that means "the perfidious white", "white" is there for the white cliff of Dover that you can see from France. You can ear "Alba" in albino, albaster, albatros, etc... always things related to the white colour.
Another one:
Modern Benin was once called Dahomey, and the neighboring kingdom in modern day Nigeria was called Benin. On independence Dahomey decided it was going to start calling itself Benin, while actual Benin had been subsumed into Nigeria.
And thus we have Benin City, which is in Nigeria, not Benin
Benin did call itself Dahomey when it became independent from France until 1975, when Communist rule took over and they renamed it Benin. Even after Communism fell in Benin in 1990, the name stayed.
Thanks for the correction, thisissparta!
thanks dahomey
@@lucashfaria98 now that France has decided to return the Benin Bronzes, are they going to the country or the city?
I have a good one: back in the Antiquity, Cartago had colonies in the Iberian Peninsula, and one of them was called "Cartago Nova" (New Cartago). Even when the Roman Empire exterminated Cartago, that city in the Iberian Peninsula kept it's name, and eventually, it changed to "Cartagena". Later, when Castille was colonizing America, they named a city "Cartagena de Indias", which in our days is in Colombia, and doesn't has any relation with the original Cartago!
Note: For those confused I believe "Cartago" is Carthage.
And Carthage/Cartago comes from a Phoenician word meaning "new city."
There's also a Cartago in Costa Rica
@@auroraourania7161 Kinda like how Istanbul comes from Turkish "The City"
is not castille is spain
2:25 Talks about the continent of Africa
5:25 Still waiting for Tigerstar to mention the province of Africa
And the province of Asia.
Technically "Africa" and "Asia" didn't move, they just expanded.
Africa originally properly meant the land of the Afri people (singular Afer).
@محمد رائد
Don't pretend they came up with the word.
@@TheRenegade... do you have a source to prove or disprove that?
For New Zealand Māori, the name of the ancestral homeland is actually "Hawaiki" or "Rangiātea". "Havai'i" is an archaic name for "Ra'iātea" in the Tahitian language. Fun fact: it is not an uncommon place name across Polynesia, for example; Samoa's largest island is named Savai'i, and an archaic name for the island of Rarotonga in the Cook Islands is 'Avaiki.
yup! i had a week long section on the different iterations of the homeland, both in linguistics and in creation stories. it's all super interesting
No v's in Māori. Thats how you know it's wrong for definite.
Hawaii is also properly pronounced with a V
If we start doing this , every country on earth has to change its name
@@st3019 I can get behind that
Everybody gangsta till the places start moving
In Argentina we have a region that it's calling Mesopotamia and (fun fact) in this region there is a province calling Entre rios (literally ''between rivers'').
probably because it reminded the settlers of euphtat and tigris. Or what they have heard of it in the bible.
Mesopotamia(Gr.) translates into „In between rivers“. Also another fun fact is that rios in Greek is the word for flow.:))
@@tomatensoup190 no it was because we (entrerrianos) literally live between two rivers
@@tomatensoup190 not really and yes kind of, mesopotamia literally means between rivers and the area in argentina is between 2 rivers just like the area in the middle east so they settled for that name
How about Bulgaria moving from Crimea(around 700 AD) to actual Bulgaria?
Because the Bulgar Khaganate collapsed under the pressure of the Khazars, Bulgar tribes moved in all directions but only two founded new Kingdoms, one in the Volga (known as Volga-Bulgaria) and another in the Danube, known as Danube-Bulgaria or first Bulgarian Empire.
The Slavs who occupied the land below Danube-Bulgaria were subjected to the new Khaganate and adopted the name of their conquerors.
@@julianfejzo4829 that is not how an ethic identity works though. Modern Bulgarians and chuvash people are the only ethic groups who have the right to claim a Bulgar ancestry. Be it cultural or historical. Genetics play a smaller role in the formation of one's cultural and ethnic identity. All of us balkaners care mostly genetic material from the Anatolian farmers who migrated , populated and introduced agriculture in europe in the early Neolithic period 7000-6000 years ago. We also have a considerable amount of genetic similarity to the first homo sapiens who populated the region- the western hunter-gathrers aka chader men. And only after those two come the indoeuropeans( slavs , daco-thracians , ilirians, ancient greeks etc. ) from whom we ve inherited between 25 to 35 percents genetic material. And yet we usually claim only their ancestry, and are not completely wrong to do so. Bulgaria was and still is the successor of Great old Bulgaria and the 2 Bulgarian empires.
@@historyrhymes1701 I am not saying you shouldn't claim the Bulgars, I just wanted to specify to not bring confusion that's it.
@@historyrhymes1701 actually sometimes it kinda does, Palestinians for example are named after the Philistines who dwelled in modern day gaza, because Greeks decided to not call the land Canaan or Israel which was the dominant kingdom at the time and instead called it palestina, the Romans later adopted the name to humiliate the Jews and because they had a thing for emulating greeks. Modern palestinians however have no direct descent from Philistines but are rather a mixture of the lands various inhabitants and conquerors, mainly the Jews, Greeks, Arabs and Turks,
ain't that ironic, named after the jews sworn enemies while being related genetically to the Jews instead of Philistines
@Tee Wew28 No, the Bulgars originated in what is now Southern Ukraine and when their first Khanate collapsed, the various princes moved across Europe, two of them founded two kingdoms, one in the Danube and another one in the Volga.
“We should take Bikini Bottom, and PUSH it somewhere else!”
soooo we not gonna talk about bulgaria, i guess its more people then names but still
Metallic Twister didn’t Bulgaria move from the Volga into Ukraine and then into the balkans?
It's not like there's the Russian city literally still called "Bolghar"...
Don't forget Turkey
you won't believe that in 8th century chinese people met with bulgarian in middle aisa. but middle aisa isn't their homeland neither. both of european bulgaria and middle asian bulgaria were from siberia
@@scottbellhouse As Uncle Radko said - not exactly. Bulgaria (or what the Byzantines called "Old Great Bulgaria") "started off" immediately to the north of the Caucasus mountains, between the Black and Caspian seas. Then it broke off into several groups, one of which moved north to the Volga (whose name sounds similar, but is probably unrelated to the Bulgars), another moved to the Danube, some moved to Pannonia (modern Hungary), to Macedonia and to Italy (and earlier on one group had moved to Armenia). One group also stayed behind in the Caucasian area and it might be related to modern Kabardino-Balkaria there. Anyway, for about half a millennium there were at least two countries with the Bulgarian name - one on the Danube, in the Balkans (which still exists) and another on the Volga (which got destroyed by the Mongols and is today the Russian federal republic of Tatarstan). Interestingly enough, the Danubian Bulgarians became Christians, the Volga Bulgars became Muslims and the Black Bulgars who stayed in the Caucasian area under the Khazars probably converted to Judaism, i.e. those three Bulgar branches converted to the three Abrahamic religion. There's also another interesting parallel where Hungary got established next to the Danubian Bulgaria, whereas Volga Bulgaria got established next to the Hungarian homeland, Great Hungary (both Hungaries also existed in parallel for a few centuries - the western ones became Catholics, while the eastern ones remained Pagan).
TL;DR: There were several places and countries carrying the Bulgar name, sometimes at the same time. Likewise, there's the Ethiopia in Africa, but at the same time the ancient and medieval writers also spoke of an Ethiopia in the Indo-Iranian area (I kind of expected this double-Ethiopia to be mentioned in the video, but sadly it was not).
There are a few other interesting examples of this: Peru is likely named after Biru, a native leader who lived in southern Panama. The Spanish adopted his name to first refer to southern Panama, then extended it to everything south of Panama, and the name eventually came to refer to the former Inca Empire. Madagascar derives from a misplacing and misspelling of Mogadishu in Somalia on European maps. California originally only referred to the Baja Peninsula. Azerbaijan originally only referred to what is now Iranian Azerbaijan and not the current country. The Kingdom of Congo was mostly located in Angola, and Bhutan was originally an alternative name for Tibet.
Mmm as a peruvian I thought 'Biru' was the name of a kingdom in the south of Panama, not the name of a native leader. But interesting story!
I'm Peruvian. This is wrong. The origin is disputed but it certainly is unrelated to Panamá.
Panamá was Panamá and it was explored relatively early. Peru was explored long after Panamá. Not just that, the expedition to explore Peru sailed FROM Panamá, in ships assembled in Panamá itself all the way until it landed around the area of modern Piura, Perú. The expedition ventured inland towards Cajamarca to meet the Emperor. The Conquest took OVER 10 YEARS and all the while there was no Peru, just Inca Empire, then for even more decades an Inca Empire with an Emperor that swore fealty to Spain (the dead emperor's younger brother). Panama continued developing while Spain negotiated with Peruvian native nobles to join and this went on for decades on end.
Most likely, the name is after a river near the landing site that in Quechua is called Piruw.
The Viceroyalty of Peru was born in Lima, right in the middle of modern Peru, and it was given authority over the rest of the western half of the continent only because of the few hundred Spaniards living south of Panama, most of them happened to be in Peru. And of those capable to be administrators, ALL were in Peru. After population grew to more real levels it was split.
But it's not because Peru started as a thing in Panama and then expanded to modern Peru, not at all. It started in Lima.
That is completely false. I study this for my spanish Independant Research Project and Peru comes from the kingdom of Piru, the nation in the Andes from where started the Incan Empire.
Autocaptions be like: Hawaii sounds similar to Hawaii
HUAWEI also sounds similar.
Yes I see the floor hear is made out of floor
It's Haweewee!
random pokeguy 2957 it’s pronounced ha-vai-e
I've usually encountered Hawaiki being spelled this way in most Maori text books, I've heard is only really pronounced as Ha-Why-key in New Zealand.
Serbs be like: THAT'S THE TRUTH. THE ALBANIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCAUS, JAJAJAJAJA, BALKAN IS OURS NOW
Me an Armenian:
No Azeris moved from albania
@@suggestiveguy That's big brain
@The Nova renaissance i know
It's a joke.
Well they are turks and come from that direction...
FortuneZero no
This is so incredibly important. When we read old texts or hear old stories, it's important for historians to consider things like "maybe that place wasn't where it is today" or "maybe that word didn't mean the same thing for them at that time that we thought it did" or "maybe their concept of time and/or place was simply I correct".
Misunderstandings of this fact also often lead to hilarious conspiracy theories like Tartaria
@@mrperson2102 lol.
There was a Del Taco by my place and they built a new one right next door to it. When they completed building the new one, they tore down the old one. Thus the Del Taco effectively moved.
There are many examples of this migration of peoples in Europe, one of the most famous being Bulgaria. The Bulgars used to live along the Volga, but today Bulgaria is located in the Balkans.
Turkey is another famous one. There were essentially no Turks living there until the Seljuks invaded the Byzantines, this led to the Turkification of Anatolia which led to the rise of the Ottomans, who completed this Turkification.
This makes sense. "Volga," "Bulgar," and "Balkan" are all only slight phonemic shifts from each other
The bulgars began in ukraine, then they got forced out and two groups became a thing: thr volga bulgars, who went to the volga river and danubian bulgars
I love saying Volga Bulgar.
Croatia too. Before the Slavic migration, there was an area in what is now the Southern Poland, that was called White Croatia. Croats eventually moved south into Dalmatia and Pannonia
@@saptaccrvima3563 true
I was always really confused about where saxony was- as an Englishman, I have seen it in east Germany despite my assumption before that it would be where it originally was so migration to England would be possible. Thanks for explaining that.
Dutch province of Groningen also identifies as saxon (saksisch) but is closed in between two frysian provinces (one in NL to the west and one in DE to east).
Saxony
Saxony
Lower saxony
Saxony
Electorate of saxony
*saxony*
It confuses us Germans too.
It was mainly the Angles of modern Schleswig who came to England and settled. Hence the name of Old English - Anglisc.
Anglo-Saxon the word came about since it was a Saxon kingdom which made England.
Sexy Lauenburg ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Daniel Saukel haha
Yes that’s haha funny
Ima make someone draw a female nude counteyhuman saxe laurenburg :)
@Johia Mapping 2 Please, please don’t.
@@jakethegreatestofalltime i drew it >:)
Another interesting example we have in Italy: "Calabria" was in Roman times the name of the south-eastern peninsula that is now called "Salento"; today Calabria is the name of another region in the south-western tip of Italy.
Correction: The Māori word for the homeland where they started from is Hawaiki, not Havai'i, although Havai'i may be from a similar Polynesian language. The point still stands, it bears striking resemblance
Correct - "Havai'i" is the archaic Tahitian name for Ra'iātea
@@KauriTearaura I was going to make zp3413's point, but you've added to it. Interestingly, Hawaiki renders to Savai'i in Samoan, which is the name of the big island in the Samoan archipelago
@@stephenlitten1789 Yep! As to "Hawai'i" in Hawaiian.
That moment when everyone forgets Bulgaria
Bulgaria is more russian than any other country when not counting belarus so i couldn't care less
@@fitmotheyap its not Russian but it has many russophiles
@@fitmotheyap what?we even created them the alphabet and gave them literacy and spread religion to them,also influenced their language,it would of been smarter if u said that Russia is big Bulgaria,but still thats not true.
The bulgars come from river wolga
@@fitmotheyap you what mate
"Places that have moved over time"
How about Portugal transfering itself to Brazil in 1815 due the Napoleonic Invasion?
Portugal did not transfer to Brazil, only the capital of Portugal, besides Brazil becoming a united kingdom with Portugal, but everything lasted only for a few years
~ sorry for the bad english
The transference of the Portuguese Capital to Rio de Janeiro is an overrated meme.
It was a pointless symbolic gesture by a petty king to pretend Napoleon didn't take the Portuguese Capital when he absolutely did, without any resistance.
Also, it was in 1808. By 1815 the Portuguese, alongside the Spaniards and the British, had already driven the French from Iberia, and the France had collapsed
@@anghoulrak806 I agree.
~sorry for bad english
@@heiko5129 ok.
~sorry for bad spanish
@@Miguel-bs6kh oh
~sorry for bad italian
From the title i was thinking of areas of land physically moving . Hmmmm
Well technically continents move so places have moved regardless what we think .
Ninad Kashyap correct. However I was expecting a large noticeable movement over the scale of human civilization , in a very noticeable way. That is what I was referring to
Fortunately they don't actually move that much, because you know, earthquakes.
Merritt Animation agreed
Me too
Interesting anomaly: Ancient DNA has established a curious link between the ancient Illyrians (i.e. inhabitants of Croatia, Albania, et al) and a significant number of contemporary Iberians and Southern French.
@Rowen Rivahein Roman empire, perhaps?
I've heard a theory that the most "pure" Illyrians are Albanians, but that Illyrians could be the ancestors of really important ethnicities in Europe- most especially the latins, and perhaps the germans. Some include celts too.
Although it would be a real game changer to know one culture split into three significant but different cultures that kept overlaping on each other and evolving; there is not enough evidence to conclude anything with the current research, so it is best to not attempt to debate this until more has been found.
And to be fair, I have huge doubts on this theory myself, I just find it interesting to visualise.
Huh, I never realized that Eastern Europe bordered the Pacific Ocean.
Politically, Siberia is considered "European" because it is part of Russia.
Nintendo Video Gamer russia is Eurasian so no, Siberia is Asian.
yeah apparently there's also several thousands of nautical miles between eastern europe and alaska
pink doe *politically* Russia is an Eastern European country.
Geographically though Siberia is Asia. But Siberia doesn’t have access to the Pacific Ocean like many foreigners think. Russia’s Far East does.
Красная Армия - Вперёд! No you say that russia is in both continents with the urals separating the European and asian part
People from the north shore of Oahu still pronounce it "Havaii."
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Also, as a kiwi, I'm pretty sure Maori say their ancestral land was called Hawaiki, not Havai'i.
This video would last ages if you included every country that moved because of continental drift
Luke Detering,
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It would be literally every country on earth... moving very small increments
As you can see gradually over time China moved south to where it is now
Fun little example in regards to albania: When the romans discovered britain they named the island Albion. Britannia was only established as a term when they conquered whats now England and Wales. But collectively, a grammatically correct way to refer to the inhabitants of a place known as Albion would be, in latin, to call them Albanians.
what does albion mean?
@@tomatensoup190 The word Albion is derived from albus meaning white because when the romans reached whats Calais today they saw what we call the cliffs of Dover, and theyre white.
@@Chrischi3TutorialLPs ah so like albinos who have pigmentation default and are totally white?
@@tomatensoup190 Thats... an interesting leap of logic to think i was talking about Albinos when i was talking about why the romans called britain albion. But well, i guess albinism is named after the fact that people who have it usually appear to have a very light, almost white skin.
@@tomatensoup190 And Albumen is egg white.
Another interesting example is Congo. The name comes from the medieval Kingdom of Kongo of the Bakongo people, which occupied only the western most regions of the modern Congo countries and the northern provinces of Angola. Now, the name of this kingdom has been extended all the way to parts of the Great Lakes Region, to regions next to South Sudan, and grassland Luba regions in the southeast. Completely different from the original name.
As a belgian it's really wierd that we Where spain at one time and austria at another time.
You were never "Spain", but holdings of the king of Spain.
Nobody called those lands Spain, just because they were rulled by the Spanish.
At that time, the correct pronunciation was Tintín.
@macaco860
Spanish Territories Yes.
Spain? No
Sorry for necro, but if you go even deeper, Spain didn't even exist at the time, it was the "Spanish monarchy", because the kingdoms of Iberia were called collectively the "Spains", with the Spanish Netherlands being by themselves a series of titles and not a united "Kingdom/Duchy of Belgium/the Netherlands"
@macaco860 It was territory of the kingdom of Spain, but as @Mellamo Mellamo said Spain didn't exist at the time. It was a sort of union between the existing Spanish kingdoms. Castille Aragon and Navarre. Also, Spain at the time was called Habsburg Spain because it was ruled by Habsburg kings. It only got the Spanish Netherlands because it was in a personal union with the states that were in said Spanish Netherlands, and also because the Spanish Monarchy was ruled by a Habsburg king. Simply put, Belgium belonged to Spain that one time because Spain was ruled by a Habsburg king and was also in a personal union with the states that were in Belgium.
The name Wyoming has also moved over time. Originally used for the Connecticut settlement now located in Northeast Pennsylvania (modern day Wilkes-Barre), it would serve as namesake for the state of Wyoming; this being, perhaps, due in part to the poem "Gertrude of Wyoming".
Asia is another example of this as it was originally a name for Anatolia (modern day Turkey) and the Persian Empire (which controlled most of that region).
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*Armenia, Bulgaria, Kyrgyzstan, and Vietnam* are also *further examples of countries* which have *moved* over *vast distances* from their ancestral or historic homeland.
3 cases like that with Anatolia:
1. Anatolia was the "Asia", ancient Greeks used the name Asia to refer to Anatolia and not the huge continent. This is why Anatolia is also referred to as Asia Minor sometimes.
2. Before Turks migrated to Anatolia, Turkey was Central Asia (or Türkistan by Turks themselves) which is why place Uyghurs live is called East Turkestan today.
3. Anatolia was called Rûm, which literally meant Rome.
I live in a Dutch province called Gelderland, which started out as a duchy about 100 km to the south. It lost its ancestral homelands over time and now it's only the northern part still bearing this name, so effectively it has moved to the north by a significant margin.
Georgia: *starts mitosis*
The map in 0:00 is the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen
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The whole thing with Henry the lion and his rebellion against the emperor leading to the red part in 1:40 being all whats left of the red in 1:36 would probably have been an important point to bring up.
*Another example of which would be the name "palestine."* Palestine is originally a Hebrew and ancient Egyptian word known as "Plishtim" (invaders/thieves) which was labeled to the Greek Aegean sea people that invaded both Egypt and Israel in antiquity. The term was later translated back to Greek as the infamous "Philistines" who occupied an area of land slightly larger than the Gaza strip today.
The term died after the Babylonian occupation of Israel, and with it the subsequent extinction of the Philistine people. Records of these people were ironically sourced from the Torah until the modern era with archeological excavations and finds to prove extra-biblically.
The term was rebranded by the Romans after the Bar Kockba Revolts after Emperor Hadrian smashed the Jewish uprising and renamed the province from "Iudea" to "Syria-Palestina." He purposely chose this name knowing that the Jews and Philistines were arch ancient enemies.
*This meant that these originally foreign people from the Greek islands that managed to occupy a strip of coast land in Israel in antiquity, now represent a totally different people and a region that isn't exactly near the original site of the term and people.*
I only know about Albania/Iberia because of the EU4 steam achievement.
I like when the Roman's lost a territory and changed names. Like when aurelian abandoned Dacia, but part of moesia's name changed to Dacia to make it seem the prince didnt really disappear but simply moved. Another interesting case was the late roman province of Europas was the area in south east thrace including constantinople. Despite the fact that for some time the entire continent was referred to as europe.
Nobody:
Volga Bulgaria: I exist
Thicc Bulgaria: Have you seen Macedonia I don't know where it is
Makedonia is a Greek province and a Greek tribe. It has nothing to do with bulgars or slavs
@@nestororiginal3053 Makedonia is Bulgaria. They speak Bulgarian but they deny being bulgar
@@robertadamson860 Makedonia was for 1000 years part of Byzantium which means that it is greek only and not slavic
@UCh_yuecN_VO25hSLBnrevzQ did you know that Danish is modern German?
Nestor Original By That Logic Bulgaria is Greek land. Even during Byzantine Times Slavs populated what is today the Republic Of North Macedonia since the 600s. And Greece doesn’t inherit Byzantine claims this isn’t no Eu4. Why not complain about Northern Epirus which actually has Greeks in it.
The v>w change in Hawaiian is not conjecture, it's really clearly fact. You're right that there's some question about why they picked that name. (And the actual homeland of Polynesian peoples is - well, the huge expansion and exploration that spread Polynesian culture to its full modern extent came from Tonga about seven hundred years ago, the Austronesian peoples of whom Polynesians are a subgroup came from Taiwan, and exactly where the specifically Polynesian part of the expansion started isn't entirely clear.)
Thank you for the info on saxony, that had bugged me for a while, and I could not find all the info that you so neatly pakaged.
Kudos!
Can't forget Khorosan, which once meant a lot of modern day afghanistan, tajikistan and turkmenistan.
Honestly, having two regions bear the same name is too confusing and weird. Plus, I think the “migration” of Saxony was more of an expansion in a way. Just not the traditional kind. So if we unite Saxony in eastern Germany with Lower Saxony and Saxony-Anhalt, we would have a larger region of Saxony. So, in my case, what was once Saxony has now, in modern times, become three states that have consequently divided it.
It was not a division, though, it was territories expanding into one direction while losing their possessions in the other one, i.e. very close to actual shifting.
The Duchy of Saxony (in Lower Saxony) was a very prestigious title in the early HRE. The ruling family holding that title lost most of their possessions in actual (Lower) Saxony but still held on to the title when their territory was mostly in modern Saxony-Anhalt.
After that, the family of Wettin, ruling a larger territory to the southeast, the Margraves of Meissen, i.e. modern-day Saxony, inherited these lands and the title, calling themselves Dukes (and Electors) of Saxony from now on because that was the more prestigious title - despite having absolutely no possessions in former (Lower) Saxony.
Lower Saxony was split between various states of the HRE, with Lower Saxony being used as an overarching regional name for administrative purposes of the HRE. None of these states was actually called Saxony-anything at that point. (Instead, large parts of modern Thuringia were split between various principalities with "Saxony" in their name because they were ruled by a branch of the Wettin family. That's why there is the family Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, with Coburg and Gotha being Thuringian cities at the time.
In the early 19th century, the Electors (now Kings) of Saxony lost their possessions in Saxony-Anhalt to Prussia which called their new territory "Provinz Sachsen", i.e. the Province of Saxony. At this point, Saxony became what it is today.
After WW2, when Prussia was split up, various smaller provinces and states were united in the northwest, taking the collective name of "Lower Saxony". At the same time, the former Prussian Province of Saxony united with the smaller principalities of Anhalt to form the state of Saxony-Anhalt. Saxony remained Saxony.
So at no point in time did all three parts called "Saxony" today belong to a single state. Instead, the title was passed on from one dynasty to another over time, being used for its prestige, even though they ruled over wildly different regions.
@@varana Nice explanation, thanks dude.
@@varana Very interesting - Thank you!
The region in the german federal state of Saxony is called Meißen
OK, but what about places that have actually _moved._ As in, physically changed location, usually due to geological activity. This is suspected to have happened to some particularly ancient locations.
Alternate title: Drunk Nations in History
Dude, where's my country?
I have never seen a map with Mexico as part of "Central America"
i have many times
@@deactivated5931 Totally wrong representations. As a geographer, kinda ofends me. Hahaha.
History can be so confusing sometimes. Especially when studying about the Caucasus, Anatolia, and the Armenian highlands. The Turks call the Armenian highland as Eastern Anatolia... even though the word Anatolia means "East". So how can a region be called "Eastern East"? The Caucasus is another interesting one. Almost every old map I've seen in the Caucasus the regions have always been labeled as "Georgia, Armenia, Iberia, or Caucasian Albania". But then you wonder, where did Iberia and Caucasian Albania go to? Well, it seems like countless amount of occupation from different empires, such as Mongols, Arabs, Russians, Ottomans, Persians, etc have changed the demographics and people there. Old countries and people dissolve, new states and new settlements emerge. I believe that the only two ethnicities from the original inhibitors of the Caucasus that still exist today are Georgians and Armenians. Azerbaijan, while it's an independent state, was not the original inhibitors of the territory. I'm not trying to insult anyone with Azerbaijani decent, but I've never seen an old map that had the name "Azerbaijan" on it.
Southern #Illyria = modern #Albania ≠ Caucasian Albania = #Aluank ≠ #Azerbaijan = #Atropatene [Media]
The augustan region of Apulia et Calabria in the "heel" of Italy today is the region of Puglia while the name Calabria switched to the "tip of the boot"; the region now known as Calabria in ancient times was known as Bruttium and even earlier as Italia
Also, it is believed that the origin of the Polyneaseans and other Austronesians is actually the island of Formosa, aka, Taiwan.
Im using this as a justification to form Byzantium as Venice you cant stop me reeeeeee
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3:55 "The V to W was a language change over time." Actually the name of Hawaii is still pronounced "Havai'ee" by natives. The W was a change made by Anglos. So it's literally the same word.
@emperortigerstar this video brought up a memory from high school. Our Spanish teacher was from the Basque country area of Spain. He told us that the Basque language was unconnected to any other European language except some in Eastern Europe. In trying to link to something to show this to you I learned that this theory is mostly discredited now. (Search for Basque-Georgian hypothesis)
Bulgaria was formed on the eastern Black Sea and literally traveled to a completely different area over the sea when its early kingdom crumbled.
Makes me think of how my CK3-EU4 mega campaign yielded a bunch of successful crusader states which reformed empires. It made me panic when I got the notification for the War of the Roses while playing the UK. Then I found out that some territories with English culture seceded from Persia and was led by the Tutors and was named England despite being in the middle of Iraq. That was something.
Burgundy is another one that has moved around a great deal.
From Scandinavia to Gallia
Hawaii is an interesting place name. It has appeared as Savaii, Havaiki, Hawai'i, Owyhee, and so on and so forth, and may have first applied to ancient Taiwan or even China, and spread as far as a river in Oregon, in mainland North America.
Richard Rabinowitz I think it’s pretty clear that the name points to the big island of Savai’i in Samoa. Anciently, it would have been called Savaiki. I’ve never heard about it being traced back to Taiwan. I know the Austronesians were traced back to Taiwan, but I didn’t know about the name Hawaii being traced back like that.
2:24 the current country has called itself Ethiopia for about 2 thousand years, but originally the named actually referred to what is now Sudan. Sudan itself was actually originally a name for the entire Sahel region across Central and West Africa, and the current name for what has historically been named Nubia originated from what I can tell in the British colonial period (they controlled part of the Sudan, so they called it "Anglo-Egyptian Sudan"
It's worth noticing that many African countries have names that mean just "Land of the Black" in different languages: Niger, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Soudan, maybe also Guinea...
The Iberian Peninsula's name isn't just a modern designation. In Classical Antiquity, the Ancient Greeks called it Ἰβηρία (Ibería), and they called its people Iberians. The Iberian Peninsula received its Greek name several centuries before Caucasian Iberia did. So Iberia never "moved", there was just a time when a nation in the Caucasus received the same exonym.
1:00 Sir, what is Punjab doing in Afghanistan and Tajikistan?
James A Clouder Also why is Gujarat just Saurashtra they should have the cities of Ahmadabad and Surat :/
@@mackycabangon8945 that's another example of this sort of thing. "Gujarat" was originally the Rajasthan-malwa area, the Homeland of the Gurjara-Pratihara people, it shifted to the saurashtra region after the Rajputs expanded there and moved to the surat-broach area in the Islamic consists when the sultanate of Gujarat conquered it, are conquered by the Mughals and the region was made the main port of the empire
James A Clouder Punjab just means land of five rivers, and is used to refer to the Indus basin, whose tributaries like the Kabul River, etc come from there. Also the Panjab empire ruled those lands for a while
Tenta the Sane oh hahah 😐
There's any state who has literally moved over time? Like, change their borders so much that the territory the state ocuppies after a while is in a complete different position than it was in the beginning? Almost as if crawled to another place? If there is, you could make a video about it
One I like, and I thought you'd mention, is Andalusia. At first 'Andalusia' seems pretty clearly connected to that region roughly in southern Spain.
However, when you put a 'V' before the first 'A' you see where the name comes from.
'Vandalucia' was actually only very briefly controlled by the Vandals during the migration period, as they were pushed by the Visigoths (maybe the Alans? I don't remember...) into their most well-known home abode: Northern Africa, around Carthage.
Another fun coincidence you could have put in is the mythical island of 'Hy-Brezil' to the west of Ireland and the later discovered Brazil.
That mythical island actually can just be called Brasil, which exacly the name Brazil has in it's native language. This makes me wonder why there are places which considentaly have the exact same names yet others are named with the criativity of a toddler, E.g. nEwFOundLaND.
It's also funny how the Fatimid Empire also kinda just slided from northwestern Africa into the Middle East. The way it moved is kinda unique in world history.
0:01, That map is wrong, Mexico is officially part of North America
And Australia is oceania, Portugal at the most western tip of europe, yet it isn't western europe, Iran isn't with the other middle eastern countries, eastern europe goes all the way to the pacific, this map isn't perfect, nor does it look like it was made to look perfect
Yeah as central american, i agree.
It's the United Nations map for sorting representatives.
"Officially"? What does that mean? Who made it official?
@@respublica4373, Well, for all that i know, the countries that make North America are: Canada, USA and Mexico
So happy to see RUclips's history channels gain more prominence and popularity.
*Hawaiki, there's no v sound in the Māori Language
Similar to "Ra'iātea" as well, which is the Tahitian name. The Māori name is "Rangiātea".
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@@clairfayne True, but what Luke didn't say was that Maori say their ancestral land was called Hawaiki, not Havai'i. And in that case, they would probably say it was Hawhai'i, and it makes sense that at some point maybe Hawaiki was shortened to Hawai'i and then Hawaii.
In Indonesia, Riau was a sultanate in islands located between the Strait of Malacca and South China Sea, east of Sumatra island. The capital was Tanjung Pinang City in Bintan Island. But now, Riau is always referred to a province in mainland Sumatra island with Pekanbaru as the capital city (due to the moving of the capital). The then-called-Riau Sultanate now is the province of "Riau Archipelago".
Hungary too, the were originally in the urals
Prussia is kinda similar to the Saxony example. It started in the Baltic region, gained a bunch of land in northern Germany, then lost the original Prussia but still kept the name
If Kim Jong Un decide to move his country to South Pole will we still called his country as "North Korea" or will we called them as "Southest Korea"?
If he turned his nation into a giant spacecraft to travel the galaxy, we'd be left with South Korea turning into Korea and the region which is known as the Korean Peninsula turning into the Korean Island.
I think they call themselves just "Korea" to legitimize their own existence and delegitimize South Korea's. Maybe they even call South Korea "Worst Korea" do denigrate their neighbors, who knows.
@@xyAKMxy Awesome. From now on, I'll call "Austria" "Habsburgdeutschland"!
It would be called Frost Korea
I'm surprised you didnt mention Bulgaria. They literally shifted from around Crimea and the Caucasus down to what we have today after hundreds of years
French revolution and napoleonic wars?
He's still working on it.
There is also the Bretagne region in France (in English Britain or Little Britain) that used to be called Armorica until the Britons moved from what is now England when the Anglo-Saxons invaded their island to Armorica, the peninsula changing its name according to the new population.
One of my favorites is probably Armenia. In the 1000s, the Kingdom of Armenia was taken over by the Byzantines and soon after by the Seljuk Turks. During this time, the Byzantines allowed former king of Armenia was allowed to rule a province of theirs called Cilicia, which is kind of in the northeast corner of the Mediterranean. Due to the danger of the Seljuk Turks in Armenia, a lot of Armenians went to live in Cilicia, as did others escaping Seljuk rule. Well, after some... stuff, the Armenian king was killed by the Byzantines and the Armenians declared independence. This would eventually stick, and a new Kingdom of Armenia was made in Cilicia, whose independence from Byzantines, Seljuks, and anyone else was ensured by the crusades that would soon occur. This didn't last and Armenia eventually went back to being in the Caucuses where it started. History is an odd one.
Things are a whole lot complicated than that. E.g. the Armenian nation had been expansive into Anatolia for centuries before the creation of the Armenian realm in Cilicia (Lesser Armenia: Principality: 1080-1198, Kingdom: 1198-1375). During the fight for the survival of the #EasternRomanEmpire against the threat of the Ummayad and the Abbasid Caliphates, the Armenian language and culture became welcome and popular in various regions of Anatolia, e.g Cappadocia, a historic region within the "theme of Armeniakon [Host]". An other region that got rapidly armenized, especially during the era that you are mentioning (~1000 CE), is the Tao Kuropalatat, the Tao-Klarjeti [home of the ancient tribe of the #Taochians] of #Zan/#Zanuri/#Tzanni/#Tzan natives who shifted their national allegiance to #Armenian. E.g both the #Mamikonian and the #Bagratid houses, used to be #Zannian, but gradually shifted to Armenian, although the #Bagrationi also united and refounded the Kingdom of #Sakartvelo / Iberia: 1008-1490. Modern Georgia, actually
@@SMK-SAS , cool. It can be hard to get Armenian history in English, so I appreciate it when I can get it. Thanks!
Make a video about where Germanic tribes like Burgundians, Angles, Lombardis, Rugiis Franks etc. ended up after migrations
czechia - eastern Europe
south of that
Austria - western Europe
compass: hold my beer
Not sure if it really counts, but it blew my mind when I learned that Galatia (an area of Asia Minor that lent its name to Paul's Epistle to the Galatians) is name after the same Gauls that Caesar was conquering in Gaul (modern day France).
Two more:
Liechtenstein was the name of a castle in Germany where the Liechtenstein family originated. Today it is the name of a country between Switzerland and Austria, that the Liechtenstein family used to own as personal property.
Armenia used to be a Kingdom in what is today southeast Turkey. Today it is a country in the Caucasus.
Armenia only losed lands. They still own a part of the old empire. Its like talking about Lithuania
The armenian part doesn't fit, because the people there just vanished without a trace, while in the other cases they either migrated or were different people
Mr. Karl McYoda bruh they got genocided EZ Clap
yeah Bulgaria just went from Crimea to modern areas. unrelated kinda but yeah
Mesopotamia is "meso potamoi" which literally means "between rivers".
and?
i was taught this in 3rd grade
Here's a good one. Liguria was the homeland of the ancient Ligurian people on the Tyrrhenian coast of the Italian Riviera. Durring the Roman Period, Liguria had moved north of the Apennines into modern day Piedmont. And many centuries later, Liguria shifted back southward to the coast. History just loves hitting repeat sometimes.
I lived 45-months in Iraq, I never once heard it referred to as Mesopotamia.
i would add that mesopotamia is way bigger than Iraq
Сергей Одинцов I will note your comment has nothing to do with the fact that no one in Iraq refers it to Mesopotamia.
@@MightyTiki i just saying that
1) it can be one of the reasons
2) in reality "mesopotamia" is not a semitic word and never was used by locals
Not in Iraq, I suppose.
But elsewhere, it's still sometimes used. Jon Stewart's Daily Show had a segment called "Mess'o'Potamia" covering the Iraq War, for instance.
Сергей Одинцов your logic sucks guy, recommend using your flawed logic somewhere else.
Florida was so poorly mapped for so long that place names kept moving around. For example, Boca Raton(es) originally referred to a place near Miami - about 30 miles south of the modern town and inlet of Boca Raton. Mayami (Miami) originally referred to what is now Lake Okeechobee, not the Miami area. The people in the Miami area called themselves Tekesta/Tequesta, which is the name of a modern municipality almost a hundred miles to the north, named after the long-gone natives because a developer was mistaken about where the tribe had actually lived.
During the time the British owned Florida (1763-1783) they renamed a bunch of stuff after themselves, resulting in multiple Greenville Rivers (none of which stuck) and at least three separate and unrelated bodies of water in different parts of the peninsula named Hillsboro/Hillsborough which all surprisingly stuck as names (Hillsboro Inlet and River near Pompano Beach, Hillsborough River near Tampa, and Hillsboro River near Daytona Beach; the latter was finally renamed in the mid-20th century).
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Another place that moved, in a more literal sense, was the town of Hibbing, Minnesota. Think you might do a short video about that?
Funny how Mexico is always separated from NA because it's "not good enough"
Although it's clearly in NA
And Guatemala is more central
Well this comment is gonna be ignored because I pointed out your arrogance (I'm not referring to the youtuber)
Mexico is trash. It wasn't in the 1800's ... I mean technically
It is a UN division of the world.
One more exemple : Armenia.
In the XIth century, the Seldjuk turks came into Anatolia. They won the battle of Manzikert, and pushed westward. The small kingdom of Armenia, which was one of the first countries in the world which have been christianised, fall down. The population moved to the south west, and founded the kingdom of "little Armenia", in the Taurus mountains and in Cilicia. They were beaten by the Mamluks in the XIVth century.