Lookit that! A vintage Nortron thermostat. Haven't seen one of those in ages. Don't think they make them anymore but they sure were the best back in the day. Their smoke alarms were quite good too.
@@nics-systems-electric I know I said this before about your generator and stuff I know I said wrote this comment many times before and you said that you don’t have propane you have gas instead of gas when your generator off of a 100 pound steel propane tank
I would consider getting another one in the house but I like having this one here so there’s no interruption to some of the cameras to at least keep a couple going having it in the house would be nice for the Wi-Fi but the cameras that get power from generator will still record everything you just won’t be able to view it until after the Wi-Fi comes back that is one of the advantages of not using cloud storage
i'd say the reason for the flicker is because the lights are intended to run on exactly 60 hz because the ballast works to fix the flicker of a 60 hz sine wave and the generator might be putting out around 63 hz and might be a square wave
Thought so at first too but I now don’t think Frequency is the problem as I adjusted the throttle on the generator to get to sit right around 60 Hz with a lot of load on it it’ll drop to about 59 but it’s still very close to 60 and the problem is still there
@@nics-systems-electric true. if it was at 59 hz then the light would turn on and off every second. half second on and half second off. it could be that the generator is not putting out a sine wave
@@nics-systems-electric that's what i was saying. if you had it running on 59 hz, it would literaly turn on and off on and off if frequency was the problem, it might be that the power is "dirty" [not putting out a pure sine wave]. things can have problems even if they running at the proper frequency if the wave is not pure
In the generator area you could put a CO and a smoke, when one of then is activated put a strobe on the outside with a relay that activates the strobe if an alarm was detected in the tiny shed! Little over doing it but it would be totally possible and makes sense!
@@nics-systems-electric ok, but also when those are detected make a dedicated amber strobe outside of that tiny shed so you know immediately it is a problem indicated specifically in the shed! There would be relays and zones involved but it would be kick ass!
@@auggatronicRoblox_official yes haha it would. My idea was just because i like making overboard ideas. Just adds more things to the system wich in return makes it more intresting.
HI Nic can you make or point me to an easy to understand video how a sprinkler water flow alarm warns occupants to evacuate the building? Thoughts please thank you
There is a paddle inside the pipe that gets pushed once the water moves through it once a sprinkler head activates that paddle is just a switch that will close the circuit and it will set off the fire alarm system that is monitoring it
This is so cool! Great job. Does the generators power affect your fire alarm control panel in any way? Would it be okay to feed a fire alarm control panel off of generator power?
yes and no yes, as in the channel name is not pickle700 anymore no, as he is still alive and well. and i don't think the channel is going anywhere anytime soon
Yes I don’t intend on using the pickle 700 name anymore I would rather go with something a little more professional that makes more sense I did a vote on it and most wanted it to be nic’s systems and electric
Yes as it’s not a standby generator so somebody has to start it it’s helpful to have emergency lighting to go out there and started anyways so you’re not trying to start it in complete darkness
Doesn’t matter if your power source is a AC adaptor or batteries put together as long as it’s somewhere in between 12 and 24 VDC take your positive from your power source to the positive terminal on the Notification device and connect the negative from your power source to the negative terminal on the smoke detector and connect the positive of the smoke detector to the negative of your notification Device
@@nics-systems-electric It seems difficult because 2-wires dont have a normally open connection separate if the device uses a different VDC rating. I'm not sure how to have the smoke detector power a relay though. Mine blinks occasionally as a two-wire so I'm not sure if adding a transistor at the end of the circuit to power other notification alarms may be triggered even though the unit is not activated.
@@user-hc5sd8sn9y 2 wire smokes usually are for current limited circuits since it shorts itself when it activates. I don't think I would waste a good smoke detector to test that though.
I don't think you would necessarily need a pull station in the generator building either. I guess if code requires it then yes but it's not necessary. A carbon monoxide detector will nuisance trip with the generator exhaust. I really don't think you need anything in your generator building but I guess a smoke detector or heat. In regards to your dirty power problem, I am pretty sure that you can buy a device that will clean the power up. And, that device should be fine in the generator building. Tie it into the generator cord. Look around.
Yes I have looked around for something with no luck yet I only plan on adding a smoke and heat detector in the generator building as I don’t care about CO as no one‘s going to be occupying the building it has co shut down built into it anyways
@@nics-systems-electric True that. And, if the generator shut down unexpectedly and unexplained, and you know that it's not fuel or oil, then you know that it has to be CO. Generators are required to have built in CO shutdown detection. That being said, putting a CO detector in the generator building is silly and pointless. You might be able to tie a shut off switch into your fire alarm system to shutdown the generator in the event of a CO leak. But I am not sure how you would do that. If you ask around, you might find an AC line cleaner or something. But, dirty power can damage computers and computerized equipment like alarms, access control systems, TV's, and other computerized equipment over time...I am pretty sure.
@@chadrowland5234 Yeah that’s what I’m worried about I’ve done a lot of looking around and haven’t found anything so I’m thinking about selling the generator and buying a different one
@@nics-systems-electric I would recommend using an RV generator. They're known as inverter generator. They are much quieter and more reliable than the open frame generator. And, the RV generators just barely sip gasoline so you'll get like a couple of days of run time as apposed to 16 hours so, it'll pay for itself in the first or second, maybe third outage. But, I may be wrong. And, RV generators are much quieter so your neighbors will thank you for that. I once worked somewhere that had travel trailers in the parking lot for a ball game and they were using a contractor generator and I swear that you could hear it from Arkansas. It was ridiculous. They truly are obnoxious. Using an RV generator will be much quieter and your generator building will do an even better job with sound reduction. I once stood by an RV generator and was actually able to have a conversation without yelling. So, using an RV generator will be able to be used for more situations than just emergencies. And, most important, RV generator will put out clean power. Which will prove beneficial for computers and computerized equipment like alarms and access control. Something to think about. I use an RV generator for emergency usage to back feed my house for those very reasons.
@@chadrowland5234 Yeah they’re definitely quieter and will put out cleaner power I’m just having a hard time finding one that’s going to be large enough as I want to be able to have something that will be able to keep everything going including heat the biggest one I’ve been able to find was an 8000 w 6500 running w it’s just that it’s energizer brand which I don’t know how good they are as it’s hard to find reviews
Do you have a circuit analyzer? You could check the voltage and hertz the generator is putting out. The generator running confined in the shed could be running differently as would be in the open. With load at around 3600rpm you want to be at or as close to 60hz
Everything seems good with voltage around 124 is where it likes to hold and frequency is around 60 and with heavy load will drop down to 59 which seems reasonable I don’t see any reason why the shed would affect anything and I have checked Frequency with it outside of the shed when I took it out to make adjustments with no differences
My thoughts the machine isn’t designed to run in a confined space with a fan pulling air out. The machine is designed to run in the open with minimum restrictions.
@@dennywires I don’t see any reason the confined space would affect it especially when there is airflow it’s no different then standby generators that are inside of a enclosure of some type I have tried it outside and it has not made a difference
Because the exhaust is very hot and needs It’s dedicated pipe right in line with where it comes out of the generator otherwise it would completely melt the insulation possibly starting a fire it creates a ton of heat so exhaust fan is only intended to pull cool air through the building for whatever heat is generated from the generator engine and generating motor which is a much less than the exhaust
Lookit that! A vintage Nortron thermostat. Haven't seen one of those in ages. Don't think they make them anymore but they sure were the best back in the day. Their smoke alarms were quite good too.
You got mad skills man.
Thank you
@@nics-systems-electric I know I said this before about your generator and stuff I know I said wrote this comment many times before and you said that you don’t have propane you have gas instead of gas when your generator off of a 100 pound steel propane tank
Nice video and generator
Thanks
I have a question? Why didn't you just permanently wired up the generator to the building? Why used the removable cord?
Because I want to be able to remove the generator from the building and use it other places when I want to
Just an idea since you don’t need that ups for the garage door you should move it to the house for the wifi so that your wifi and camera stay up
I would consider getting another one in the house but I like having this one here so there’s no interruption to some of the cameras to at least keep a couple going having it in the house would be nice for the Wi-Fi but the cameras that get power from generator will still record everything you just won’t be able to view it until after the Wi-Fi comes back that is one of the advantages of not using cloud storage
Love the new title of the channel
How does the load balancing get handled in a building where the generator automatically starts when the power goes out.
There isn’t any balancing that the generator Hass to do it’s already done from how the panels are wired and what breakers are on what phase
Great Video Nic! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks
I've been waiting for this video for a while. Nice video!
Thanks
Looks good. That plastic on the exhaust should be replaced with metal.
It was
i'd say the reason for the flicker is because the lights are intended to run on exactly 60 hz because the ballast works to fix the flicker of a 60 hz sine wave and the generator might be putting out around 63 hz and might be a square wave
Thought so at first too but I now don’t think Frequency is the problem as I adjusted the throttle on the generator to get to sit right around 60 Hz with a lot of load on it it’ll drop to about 59 but it’s still very close to 60 and the problem is still there
@@nics-systems-electric true. if it was at 59 hz then the light would turn on and off every second. half second on and half second off. it could be that the generator is not putting out a sine wave
@@J19_vlogger74 I really don’t think frequency is the problem as I’ve seen light run perfectly fine off 54 hz
@@nics-systems-electric that's what i was saying. if you had it running on 59 hz, it would literaly turn on and off on and off if frequency was the problem, it might be that the power is "dirty" [not putting out a pure sine wave]. things can have problems even if they running at the proper frequency if the wave is not pure
In the generator area you could put a CO and a smoke, when one of then is activated put a strobe on the outside with a relay that activates the strobe if an alarm was detected in the tiny shed! Little over doing it but it would be totally possible and makes sense!
Yes I plan on putting a smoke and a heat in there The generator already has CO shut down
@@nics-systems-electric ok, but also when those are detected make a dedicated amber strobe outside of that tiny shed so you know immediately it is a problem indicated specifically in the shed! There would be relays and zones involved but it would be kick ass!
@@firealarmdiscovery creative, but for the fire portion, I think the smoke exiting the shed would be a decent indicator
@@auggatronicRoblox_official yes haha it would. My idea was just because i like making overboard ideas. Just adds more things to the system wich in return makes it more intresting.
@@firealarmdiscovery same
HI Nic can you make or point me to an easy to understand video how a sprinkler water flow alarm warns occupants to evacuate the building? Thoughts please thank you
There is a paddle inside the pipe that gets pushed once the water moves through it once a sprinkler head activates that paddle is just a switch that will close the circuit and it will set off the fire alarm system that is monitoring it
@@nics-systems-electric thank you
Nice setup!
Thanks
This is so cool! Great job. Does the generators power affect your fire alarm control panel in any way? Would it be okay to feed a fire alarm control panel off of generator power?
Yeah the fire alarm is fine
is this the end of pickle 700
yes and no
yes, as in the channel name is not pickle700 anymore
no, as he is still alive and well. and i don't think the channel is going anywhere anytime soon
Yes I don’t intend on using the pickle 700 name anymore I would rather go with something a little more professional that makes more sense I did a vote on it and most wanted it to be nic’s systems and electric
Is June test on next Sat? Nice!
I don’t think so I’m not sure when I’m going to do it
7:52 whats in the top left folder.
Where Did Pickle Go?
Next to my mustard and ketchup
@@SDPP992 LMAO
Lol yeah I did a vote and most people agreed with me and I figured I would go with something a little more professional that makes more sense
@@SDPP992 😆😆😆
What makes the generator power so dirty?
Sign wave with high total harmonic distortion
I just have one question. Are you still going to be needing your emergency lights since you have a generator now?
Yes as it’s not a standby generator so somebody has to start it it’s helpful to have emergency lighting to go out there and started anyways so you’re not trying to start it in complete darkness
Alright thanks
Like one 2 out of 50 emergency light work at my apartment complex should I tell maintenance or fix them myself I have extra new ones
tell them, you have to be qualified to do that
You could tell them no sense spending your own money for something that they should be doing
Do you have any recommendations wiring a 2-wire smoke detector without a panel?
Doesn’t matter if your power source is a AC adaptor or batteries put together as long as it’s somewhere in between 12 and 24 VDC take your positive from your power source to the positive terminal on the Notification device and connect the negative from your power source to the negative terminal on the smoke detector and connect the positive of the smoke detector to the negative of your notification Device
@@nics-systems-electric It seems difficult because 2-wires dont have a normally open connection separate if the device uses a different VDC rating. I'm not sure how to have the smoke detector power a relay though. Mine blinks occasionally as a two-wire so I'm not sure if adding a transistor at the end of the circuit to power other notification alarms may be triggered even though the unit is not activated.
@@user-hc5sd8sn9y 2 wire smokes usually are for current limited circuits since it shorts itself when it activates. I don't think I would waste a good smoke detector to test that though.
Nice! How much amps does the generator give?
41 in rush/Start up 33 continuous
@@nics-systems-electric wow, so it can power your whole shed/garage while still being stable
@@NyxKemo Yeah since the whole garage is only getting 30 A from the main building which is the house the generator is more than enough
I don't think you would necessarily need a pull station in the generator building either. I guess if code requires it then yes but it's not necessary. A carbon monoxide detector will nuisance trip with the generator exhaust. I really don't think you need anything in your generator building but I guess a smoke detector or heat. In regards to your dirty power problem, I am pretty sure that you can buy a device that will clean the power up. And, that device should be fine in the generator building. Tie it into the generator cord. Look around.
Yes I have looked around for something with no luck yet I only plan on adding a smoke and heat detector in the generator building as I don’t care about CO as no one‘s going to be occupying the building it has co shut down built into it anyways
@@nics-systems-electric True that. And, if the generator shut down unexpectedly and unexplained, and you know that it's not fuel or oil, then you know that it has to be CO. Generators are required to have built in CO shutdown detection. That being said, putting a CO detector in the generator building is silly and pointless. You might be able to tie a shut off switch into your fire alarm system to shutdown the generator in the event of a CO leak. But I am not sure how you would do that. If you ask around, you might find an AC line cleaner or something. But, dirty power can damage computers and computerized equipment like alarms, access control systems, TV's, and other computerized equipment over time...I am pretty sure.
@@chadrowland5234 Yeah that’s what I’m worried about I’ve done a lot of looking around and haven’t found anything so I’m thinking about selling the generator and buying a different one
@@nics-systems-electric I would recommend using an RV generator. They're known as inverter generator. They are much quieter and more reliable than the open frame generator. And, the RV generators just barely sip gasoline so you'll get like a couple of days of run time as apposed to 16 hours so, it'll pay for itself in the first or second, maybe third outage. But, I may be wrong. And, RV generators are much quieter so your neighbors will thank you for that. I once worked somewhere that had travel trailers in the parking lot for a ball game and they were using a contractor generator and I swear that you could hear it from Arkansas. It was ridiculous. They truly are obnoxious. Using an RV generator will be much quieter and your generator building will do an even better job with sound reduction. I once stood by an RV generator and was actually able to have a conversation without yelling. So, using an RV generator will be able to be used for more situations than just emergencies. And, most important, RV generator will put out clean power. Which will prove beneficial for computers and computerized equipment like alarms and access control. Something to think about. I use an RV generator for emergency usage to back feed my house for those very reasons.
@@chadrowland5234 Yeah they’re definitely quieter and will put out cleaner power I’m just having a hard time finding one that’s going to be large enough as I want to be able to have something that will be able to keep everything going including heat the biggest one I’ve been able to find was an 8000 w 6500 running w it’s just that it’s energizer brand which I don’t know how good they are as it’s hard to find reviews
Do you have a circuit analyzer? You could check the voltage and hertz the generator is putting out. The generator running confined in the shed could be running differently as would be in the open. With load at around 3600rpm you want to be at or as close to 60hz
Everything seems good with voltage around 124 is where it likes to hold and frequency is around 60 and with heavy load will drop down to 59 which seems reasonable I don’t see any reason why the shed would affect anything and I have checked Frequency with it outside of the shed when I took it out to make adjustments with no differences
My thoughts the machine isn’t designed to run in a confined space with a fan pulling air out. The machine is designed to run in the open with minimum restrictions.
@@dennywires I don’t see any reason the confined space would affect it especially when there is airflow it’s no different then standby generators that are inside of a enclosure of some type I have tried it outside and it has not made a difference
Is that generator bonded or floating neutral?
@@dennywires I checked but I can’t 100% remember I think it was bonded
It might be unfiltered AC not filtered AC
The problem is a high-level of total harmonic distortion
Did you change your channel name?
Yes I did a vote and most voted for a different name
Bro why don’t you use the 50 amp outlet and only the 30 amp outlet on the generator
Because then I would have to pay more money for breakers inlet box cord wire for absolutely no reason
7:52 "Sh1t stuff"
Yessir
12:33 why do you need an exhaust outlet when you have the fan
Because the exhaust is very hot and needs It’s dedicated pipe right in line with where it comes out of the generator otherwise it would completely melt the insulation possibly starting a fire it creates a ton of heat so exhaust fan is only intended to pull cool air through the building for whatever heat is generated from the generator engine and generating motor which is a much less than the exhaust
@@nics-systems-electric oh, that makes sense
why a high pressure sodium wallpaper lol
I had to change it and it was the only thing in my camera roll that was not completely weird or random lol
The Last Time I Tested My Exit Sign It Blew Up When I Turned It On
Seems good to me
It Looked Like A Nuke Went Off
You change your name
Yes I did a vote and wanted to go with something more professional and that makes more sense
He change his name
Yes I wanted to go with something that was more professional so I figured I would do a vote and most agreed
It’s actually pretty cool