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I'm an atheist, and I think this is one of the best religious movies ever. The way faith is explained, the use of actual religious scripture, ideas v belief, sacrifice and love. I wish religious people give this movie a chance. It does a better job of showing their religion as potentially awesome than they do.
What you describe is pretty much how I feel about a movie called the rapture, with Mimi Rogers and David duchovney. Don't wanna spoil it, if you haven't seen it, (it's not a comedy, though) but based on your comment, it might be right up your alley.
Kevin Smith grew up catholic and hated it. That's why it's so well researched. It perfectly displays how nonsensical the churches Interpretation of the scripture is. Wether you're religious or not, the catholics make the least sense.
I managed to call into a radio show and ask Kevin Smith what his Magnum Opus, his greatest work, was. He said Dogma. It's one of my all time favorite films. Thank you for the reaction!
This was filmed in Pittsburgh and the Nun at the Airport was Lady Aberlin from Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. She formed a friendship with Kevin Smith and has appeared in a few of his films since meaning that most of her acting credits are Kevin Smith Movies and Mr. Rogers. I don't know why but that makes me smile.
Since you've noted that you find it interesting when people working on a movie didn't get along, it is pretty well-known that Smith found working with Linda Fiorentino extremely difficult. There were some days where it was a struggle to get her to come to the set. He later said he regretted not casting Janeane Garofalo, who plays Bethany's friend at the clinic, in the role; she was his second choice but he went with Fiorentino, who was a bigger name. More recently, however, he said that she reached out to him after he had his heart attack and he found her effort to make amends so unexpected and moving that he apologized to her for making those comments. Many have noted that Jason Mewes memorized the script when he was warned that Rickman wasn't likely to stand for him being unprofessional. That said, Jason was also closing in on the low point in his battle with addiction, and there are times in the movie outside of his scenes with Rickman where he is nodding off because he was using heroin at the time. The scene at Mooby's with Chris Rock was apparently one of his worst days, and Smith chewed him out after he nodded off during a take. I might have mentioned it before, but somewhere online there is a really lengthy piece (that was later a chapter in one of Smith's books) about how he helped Mewes finally defeat his demons and become sober. I highly recommend reading it (although it might be best to try and figure out when it was published -- I think after Jersey Girl -- to know when there's no chance there's going to be any minor discussion of the movies they'd made together up until that point). Guinevere Turner, the writer/actor who would later write American Psycho, and who met Smith at Sundance 1994, has another cameo following the one she made in Chasing Amy, this time as the train ticket counter clerk who advises Loki and Bartleby not to "underestimate the drawing power of the Garden State." Also, you don't see much of him, but Dwight Ewell, aka Hooper from Chasing Amy, plays the leader of the gang that Jay and Bob have a showdown with and then become members of in the strip club. Smith also wrote a supplementary comic book for this movie called "Chasing Dogma," which outlines Jay and Silent Bob's journey from the end of Chasing Amy to the beginning of Dogma.
One of my favorite anecdotes about this film is related to the protests when it opened in theaters by religious groups. Kevin Smith made a protest sign and joined one of the groups at a theater. They were interviewed by TV reporters and Smith appeared on TV holding a "Dogma is dog shit" sign. The reporter didn't know who he was and asked him his opinion on what the movie stands for - Smith replied, “I don’t know, but I’ve been told, ‘not good'.”
The golf club explanation is the best explanation of complicated movies. They bet that a Bishop would bless his golf-clubs to play better and they killed a demon because of it?! Well-blessed clubs. Just awesome.
RIP to Alan Rickman and George Carlin. Dogma is my favorite ViewAskewniverse film. I enjoy a good religious satire and Dogma is one of the best out there. Making Jay & Bob prophets is so funny, the whole Golden calf thing, and of course Alan Rickman's dulcet tones as the voice of god 😇 There's a bit of muddling of religious mythology (Muses are from Greek mythos, the name Loki doesn't appear in Abrahamic religions😅), but otherwise it's good fun.
This is a top 3 film, for me. View Askew aside, it is such a great movie. It was pretty controversial when it came out. There is a great video on RUclips that is a news story about the Catholic Church protesting the film. The reporter noticed a familiar face amongst the protesters. It was Kevin Smith protesting against his own movie. 😂
As a pretty lifelong atheist, I found it entertaining, and one of the more self-critical and introspective movies on the subject, whereas most works on the subject tend to be very one-sided or the other, and very culturally accessible (if not, well, very actually accessible, at least as much as it used to be before-still have it on dvd somewhere in storage).
This was some of the best writing Kevin Smith did. This movie was VERY controversial when it came out. It asked a lot of good questions about organized religion and belief. Kevin never said there was no god, only that the politics of organized religions skews the message.
It's funny you say that Jay seems to have upped his game - Kevin Smith tells a great story about how he told Jason Mewes he would have to be on point because (paraphrasing) 'Alan Rickman is a real actor and he won't put up with your shit like Ben does', and then Mewes went away and learned the whole script by heart. As in, not just his own lines - everyone's lines. Just in case Alan Rickman got annoyed. Also Bud Cort, the guy playing John Doe/God at the beginning, is in a brilliant off-kilter romcom called Harold and Maude from the 70s, which I keep trying to convince people would make a good Valentine's Day reaction
39:24 Although Daft Punk did use those words in their music, it's really a reference to the 70's TV show "The Six Million Dollar Man" about a pilot who the government turns into a cyborg after an air crash
For some reason, the scene between Alan Rickman and Linda Fiorentino at the lake always brings a tear to my eye. He explaining that he had to tell a child that it's his destiny to shoulder all this responsibility and sacrifice is rather heartbreaking. To me, it's the pivotal scene of the movie. It begs questions of faith.
This is my favorite Kevin Smith movie, by far, and I'm so happy you enjoyed it. No worries about the editing, you nailed it. As always, love your videos, take care, be well!
Seeing Bud Cort in this (even in the teeny tiny part of John Doe Jersey) begs the question of whether you've ever seen "Harold & Maude". If not... there's another worthy addition to your ever-lengthening list of Movies To See/React To.
This was one of those pivotal movies for me growing up. It just spoke so truly to all the questions and feelings I had had about religion but could never put into words. To this day Alanis Morissette remains my favorite onscreen depiction of God. And Linda Fiorentino?! Her performance is so, so good and the glue that holds everything together.
Dogma has been one of my favorite movies since the first time I saw it. As someone whose faith is personal and not embodied by any religion, I feel a deep kinship with this movie. Like you, I cannot pick out any favorite actors, scenes or quotes; almost every moment is so wonderful. I wish more people could see it but, as you found out, that's not possible at this time.
Regarding your comments about Jason Mews, you're right. Kevin Smith has said that before filming started he went to Mews and told him "Look, you've got to be professional. This is a *real* film with *real* actors. You can't just be your normal self and goof off all the time." Then Mews showed up to set and worked hard and was professional. One day Smith asked him why he didn't have his copy of the script with him, and Mews told him that he didn't need it because he had memorized it. Smith was shocked but Mews mentioned multiple lines, showing that he had memorized the entire script. When Smith asked him why he did that, Mews replied "Dude, *Alan Rickman* is in this film!"
One of the reasons why Jason Mewes was so much better in this movie than previous ones is because after going through rehab, he felt Kevin Smith casting him again was a "second chance", and when he heard they were casting a "real actor" (Alan Rickman), he felt the need to step up his game. So much so, that he shows up on his first day with the entire script completely memorized.
The edit is great (even tho you did miss out my favourite line) lol - When Salma Hayek says 'Elvis was an artist, but that didn't stop him from joining the service in time of war. Thats why he's the King and your a shmuck'. I love her delivery of that line.
The "golden calf" thing is lifted right out of the Old Testament, one of the idols being worshiped in lieu of God. That line about it being so much easier to change an idea than a belief really hit home for me then & still does. As somebody known for their great dialogues, that conversation has always struck me as the best thing Smith has ever written. And casting George Carlin as a Catholic Cardinal was just brilliant!
My favorite line got trimmed from your reaction. When Silent Bob throws the angels off the train, he gestures toward the door and tells the guy "no ticket". This is a direct reference to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Because Kevin Smith is a huge nerd. And since I am also a huge nerd, I love that kind of stuff. :)
Kevin Smith has a hilarious story about Jason Mewes knowing the ENTIRE script of this film. At the time they had filmed it, Carlin had become a widower, and he wasn't ready to remove his wedding ring. So... Kevin worked around it, by having the Cardinal wear a bandage on that finger, hiding George's ring.
Love this movie! Funny and clever. I probably saw this way too young but I just always enjoyed it, some stuff went right over my head but I always had a blast. Ben and Matt are iconic in this, love their signature outfits they wear
Smith actually joined the protests against this movie. Greatest response, ever. He attended the premiere dressed in a sparkly red tux, complete with devil horns. His infant daughter, Harley, was dressed in an angel costume.
I’ve been waiting for this one since you started your View Askew journey; the way it combines such an original plot w pre-existing Askewniverse elements is a blast.
I met Kevin Smith/Silent Bob and Jason Mewes/Jay last year. They are the most amazing people to meet in person. Kevin takes his time to listen to his fans and talks to them. It’s not like I’m signing and bye but he will take minutes to talk to his fans. Amazing dude. Jason is also a cool dude. He had no one at his line and we talked a bit. Later that day he was racing a woman on a motorized wheel chair and he was one a motorized thing. She was yelling I’m letting him win. I caught that on camera and was lucky to see that. If you have a chance to meet them it is worth it
I saw this in theaters with my mom not long after she completed her master's degree in theology (she went on to teach in the religion department of a Catholic school) She loved the movie, it's her favorite Kevin Smith film.
A fantastic film on multiple levels. This is peak Kevin Smith , it’s a shame the film is now so difficult to get a hold of. In the slim chance nobody else posted, the three children are in fact three of the horsemen of the apocalypse. The buzzing sound is meant to be flies for Pestilence. Another fantastic reaction and looking forward to seeing the next one.
@@deepermind4884 I could have sworn this was explained in the director’s commentary or something but I’ve not watched it in years. I’m probably just wrong on this one though 😳 now that I’ve checked the cast list
I remember renting this at Blockbuster when I was 10?ish and being SO confused but SO enthralled. It holds its age well and definitely awesome at every single rewatch. Love Alanis’ BOOP and Alan Rickman’s everything.
I saw you were watching this and immediately subscribed. Once you said you were going through the whole catalog I stopped and started with clerks. Kevin Smith gets an idea and makes a movie about it. He has an interesting mind and I’m excited to see how you react to the upcoming films. You look like you’re enjoying them as much as I did when I first watched.
Is it all connected? In Dogma,Matt Damon portrays a “Loki” that could bring about the apocalypse. In Thor: Ragnarok, Matt Damon portrays a “Loki” that does bring about the apocalypse. In Loki season one we find a Loki learning the dogma of the T.V.A. and how to stop an apocalypse.
Oh yea the Matt Damon cameo was definitely done on purpose for dogma fans idk about the other one tho. Edit: I’m glad people recognize the cameo I told my partner and others about this when we watched it together and they thought I was crazy because they had never seen dogma lol
Kevin smith did a Q&A in Milwaukee for a tour for Clerks III not too long ago, and at it he said that the reason he had "hell on earth" be wisconsin in Dogma was purely cuz he needed a place the angels would need to be from in order to cross paths with bethany during the journey, and she needed to be from illinois so having them be from the state to the north made sense. He was worried some Wisconsionites would be upset about it, but apparently over the years when people came to him saying "You said Wisconsin was hell on earth," they'd follow it with "and you're GODDAMN RIGHT!" as a lifelong Wisconsin resident myself, I can confirm he was indeed correct.
This came out when I was in late 20's and I became obsessed with it. I had the movie and the script in paperback. Which was cool because there was 2 missing scenes, one of which had Bethany counseling a young girl at the clinic. Alan Rickman stole the show for me and it was a massive loss when he passed. Being a huge cinephile I have this movie as my #6 favorite flick. And you hit on all the reasons why with your excellent review. Thank you so much for your hard work on this video. It rocked.
Jason made sure he knew his lines for this one, (and was reportedly clean and sober throughout production) because he did not want to screw up in front of such prominant and great actor(s) like rickman and florientino. He was big fans of both.
While I haven't seen all of Kevin Smith's films, this is possibly my favorite one, as the religious aspect took it to the next level and why I enjoyed it so much. Everybody played their roles so well, as this is one of those movies that was way better than it had any right to be, absolutely loved everything about it.
Absolutely my favorite film in the View-Askew verse. And as for background, I'm an atheist who was raised as a Pentecostal Christian, and I definitely have some religious trauma from that upbringing. Fantastic story, fantastic cast, and a fantastic way to get some gears a grinding in the noggin when it comes to matters of faith and belief. Great reaction yet again!
I've seen a clip online of Smith talking about when she first played it for him and he started to cry, because she had so perfectly captured what he wanted to say with the movie.
42:30 the edit was great, you did a great job and it was still very cohesive. It was actually a fun watch and we can tell you enjoyed it. Awesome sauce!
Girl, I was trying to figure out where I recognized you from and it finally clicked...you collaborated with EOM on the Dazed and Confused reaction! Loved that reaction and this one was just as fun. Definite new subscriber here. Not much more to say about thus movie beyond all the comments below. It is certainly a shame that HW's name is tied up with the movie and it makes it so hard to find. Glad I've got my copy on DVD.😁 Great reaction! Keep being honest and keep being you!!!❤
My favourite scene is Bartleby's rant to Loki. About how angels love for God isn't a choice for them, and probably the jealousy he has of humans that they have a free choice to love God or not, and to choose to believein God or not. Bartleby's love for God won't go away and he simultaneously hates God for that. And Loki's recognition that Lucifer was similarly angry before he was cast out of Heaven. And I love the Alanis Morissette song, Still, at the end. It's my favourite of hers.
I don't rewatch Dogma often, but I love getting first-time perspectives on it. It was one of my first 3 DVDs when I bought into the "new" media format, so I watched it frequently as my movie collection slowly grew. The movie met some newsworthy protests when it came out... one of which Kevin Smith showed up to and blended in with, just for fun.
I (52M) was raised Catholic and went to Catholic schools for most of my schooling (by choice). By High school I was (and am to this day) an Agnostic. This movie expressed exactly what my mindset was/is. Serendipity and Rufus both make perfect examples. When Serendipity (Muse) talks about how man basically misinterpreted everything. (I have always said "Imagine running the most pure and clean water through a screen filter filled with grime, rust, and garbage. What does that water look like after? God's pure and divine word, filtered through mankind, a deeply flawed, egotistic, self-important, prideful and hate-filled mess, and then expect any religious text to be anything close to divine is a fallacy.) When Rufus talks about the difference between a belief and an idea is also spot on. You can still have faith in an idea but for mankind to believe we have the capacity to truly knownor understand God, is blasphemy innthenhighest order. As it is, we only use 10% of our far less intelligent brain, but we totaly understand God. Give me a break.
As long as you realize that you've chosen an outlook that makes you feel good & you think it's the right one. Pretty much the same reasons other people have for believing what they believe. Just because you think you've come upon the right attitude about these things is not proof of being correct.
A friend of mine wanted to be a priest and went to seminary school for four years. I saw his wheels gradually turning that whole time, and by the end, he was a devout atheist. He still went on to get his PhD in the subject, though. 😂😂 I introduced him to this movie the week after he got his first degree, and it was instantly his favorite movie.
@@kattahj You're not wrong. Honestly, I often asked him why we were friends since I've been an atheist since my teenage years. He always said it was because I was the only person he could speak Greek with in middle school. lol
I quite literally think that Dogma is one of the best movies ever made. And I understand not being able to pick a favourite performance, there are so many to choose from, but for me it's Rickman by a mile. This was also one of my favourite movies to watch on DVD with the audio commentary, back when that was a thing I did often. One of my favourite anecdotes is that Kevin Smith basically told Jason Mewes that he'd need to be as professional as possible because, among others, Alan Rickman was going to be part of this project. The first time Jay showed up to do one of his scenes, he did great. When Kevin talked to him between scenes, it turns out that he not only memorized his own parts, but he memorized everyone else's parts in his scenes so he'd always know where he was, "coz I didn't wanna piss off that Rickman guy". I think the only other thing I have to say is that I grew up watching Smurfs cartoons in the early 80s, so to me the name Azrael has always been Gargamel's cat.
I thought the edit was fine (although, to be fair, I pretty much have the movie memorized at this point 🙂 ) One of my favorite things about the movie is how it's tightly written but doesn't seem to be. Bethany's complaints about god are all answered at the end of the movie, for example. Does god have a plan more important than Bethany's plan, in terms of her possible pregnancy? Actually, yes.
I have always been a fan of Kevin Smiths work especially growing up 20 miles from where he lived and filmed everything. But this movie was above and beyond in every aspect. I really feel that he had almost a “divine purpose” with this movie everyone gave there best and it shows. BTW every time I go into Long Branch NJ I show everyone the church lol. Did it to my wife two weeks ago and got “Yeah Dogma you have told me a million times” Hey it’s iconic!!
Mostly everything outside of the golgothan holds up really well. The narrative structure with regards to religion is actually really well done. It's hilarious that the movie was picketed by Catholics when, at the core, Kevin Smith really holds to true religious tenets for his story.
The VAST majority of the people who picketed the movie han not seen it or new much about it other than a writer/director known for social commentary humor made a movie that had a focus on Christianity.
First time viewer of yours, and an enormous fan of this movie. I must say your editing was great. It would be impossible to get all of the good lines, but you got the Boop! at the end so you are all good!
"The one who speaks--and he will. At great length, whether you want him to or not--will make mention of himself as a prophet." 🤣 The best description of Jay ever. Other favorite lines: Rufus: "And if you clean up your language, I _might_ just put in a good word for you too." Jay: 🤨 Bob: "Thanks." "Mwurp." - God
Easily my favorite of the View Askew movies, but like, also, just in general. It is an interesting script that raises interesting questions about religion. That script is brought to like by Smith and the actors EXPERTLY. I could watch this movie on repeat for the rest of my life.
Best reaction yet superb film and edit 😊 bigger, faster, stronger reference is Six million dollar man😎in case u don’t know 😊I do cause I’m old 🤣🤣thx again 😎🇬🇧👍
When this one came out, I was instantly obsessed. Growing up like Bethany, going to church as a kid but then not going as you get older. Being surrounded by a family that was always using God or Jesus (whoever's on the Clock) or some sort of religious doctrine as emotional manipulation. No way No thanks. I'm Good 👍. Also it truly demonstrated the Amazingness and Importance of The Garden State (my home state ) The line that sticks with me to this day is Rufus' line about Believing vs Having an Idea. That's engrained into my way of approaching many many situations and life in general.
Oh KL, I hope you like this. My alltime favourite KS movie. Laughed so hard in the theatre they almost kicked me out. KS finally lets go here with non stop criticism. And of course, there's George Carlin. Utter magic.
I was the person who recommended this movie for my high school age church group, on our sleepover *at* the church. They loved it, the grown ups.... not so much. They all had some meetings about that.
Noice! You are a Rock Star, Kaiielle!🤩😍 My favourite Kevin Smith movie and in my Top 5 (possibly Top 3) films of all-time. Nice long reaction, too. 🥃☮❤ Kev took a lot of crap for this one. He even bagged on the whiny Christians complaining about it by literally joining in on one of their protests (and since, of course, none of them had ever seen a Kevin Smith movie, nobody really recognized him). Hilarious, thought-provoking, and an absolutely stacked cast (I'm not a believer, buy I'm cool with Alanis Morissette being God).
My first current reaction of yours! I must say, I've been doing some catching up and you are a thoroughly enjoyable hostess, young lady. (Sorry, didn't mean to make you sound like food there.) Delightful content and I look forward to more! Thank you.
The movie that made me believe in God... for 2 weeks. I wasn't raised atheist (or really 'anything') and God was always fantasy like Superman, or Star Wars or other movies/books. This film made me really think about it... eventually I went back to thinking it was nonsense. BUT I did finally understand why people believe, even if I don't.
I grew up semi religious and now am similar to Rufus ideas over belief. Love this movie as it feels like it was made for people with questions like me that happens to be smart & funny to get points across. Watched it alot and is my favorite KS movie.
I think the only line I was surprised was left out the edit was Bob's "No ticket." after he .. assists .. Loki and Bartleby off the train - but definitely understand editing to fit YT's limitations is, at best, a nightmare. Loved the reaction :D
Yeah I haven't seen the Indiana Jones franchise so I didn't know that line was a direct reference to something. And I just chuckled at the line and felt like I already had enough of my chuckles in the reaction. 😅 Had I known that it was so popular I would have left it in lol.
When they show George Carlin he has a bandaid on his ring finger, his wife passed away shortly before and he didn’t feel comfortable taking it off so he offered to put a bandaid over it. 😢
Bethany as the 'audience surrogate' as it were, was written with so much humanity that I sometimes forget she's a woman with a rather female-specific tragic past. Even though her crisis stems from an inability to bear a child, I can still connect with the root of her emotions viscerally through the grounded portrayal in the acting. We might not all have some familial ties with Jesus Christ himself forced upon us, but that scene in the lake where she is pleading 'why me?' will no doubt hit anyone on some specific nerve. And, just like Bethany, we all feel some amount of catharsis in Alan Rickman's beautifully empathic reply, he was just too bloody perfect a choice to be the bureaucratic voice of God; delivering a poignant, hilarious message with just enough gravitas to make it feel honest.
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I'm an atheist, and I think this is one of the best religious movies ever. The way faith is explained, the use of actual religious scripture, ideas v belief, sacrifice and love. I wish religious people give this movie a chance. It does a better job of showing their religion as potentially awesome than they do.
What you describe is pretty much how I feel about a movie called the rapture, with Mimi Rogers and David duchovney. Don't wanna spoil it, if you haven't seen it, (it's not a comedy, though) but based on your comment, it might be right up your alley.
I'm a Christian and I think that this is one of the best religious movies too. Lmao.
@@rexmundi2986 Thanks!! I'll give it a try!
@@toddpatrick8254 Right!?! I'm glad you gave it a chance!
Kevin Smith grew up catholic and hated it. That's why it's so well researched. It perfectly displays how nonsensical the churches Interpretation of the scripture is. Wether you're religious or not, the catholics make the least sense.
I managed to call into a radio show and ask Kevin Smith what his Magnum Opus, his greatest work, was. He said Dogma. It's one of my all time favorite films. Thank you for the reaction!
RIP Alan Rickman and George Carlin.
One of the things I kinda love about this movie is it doesn't attack religion per se but instead attacks the Dogma that has become attached to it.
This was filmed in Pittsburgh and the Nun at the Airport was Lady Aberlin from Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. She formed a friendship with Kevin Smith and has appeared in a few of his films since meaning that most of her acting credits are Kevin Smith Movies and Mr. Rogers. I don't know why but that makes me smile.
Since you've noted that you find it interesting when people working on a movie didn't get along, it is pretty well-known that Smith found working with Linda Fiorentino extremely difficult. There were some days where it was a struggle to get her to come to the set. He later said he regretted not casting Janeane Garofalo, who plays Bethany's friend at the clinic, in the role; she was his second choice but he went with Fiorentino, who was a bigger name. More recently, however, he said that she reached out to him after he had his heart attack and he found her effort to make amends so unexpected and moving that he apologized to her for making those comments.
Many have noted that Jason Mewes memorized the script when he was warned that Rickman wasn't likely to stand for him being unprofessional. That said, Jason was also closing in on the low point in his battle with addiction, and there are times in the movie outside of his scenes with Rickman where he is nodding off because he was using heroin at the time. The scene at Mooby's with Chris Rock was apparently one of his worst days, and Smith chewed him out after he nodded off during a take. I might have mentioned it before, but somewhere online there is a really lengthy piece (that was later a chapter in one of Smith's books) about how he helped Mewes finally defeat his demons and become sober. I highly recommend reading it (although it might be best to try and figure out when it was published -- I think after Jersey Girl -- to know when there's no chance there's going to be any minor discussion of the movies they'd made together up until that point).
Guinevere Turner, the writer/actor who would later write American Psycho, and who met Smith at Sundance 1994, has another cameo following the one she made in Chasing Amy, this time as the train ticket counter clerk who advises Loki and Bartleby not to "underestimate the drawing power of the Garden State." Also, you don't see much of him, but Dwight Ewell, aka Hooper from Chasing Amy, plays the leader of the gang that Jay and Bob have a showdown with and then become members of in the strip club.
Smith also wrote a supplementary comic book for this movie called "Chasing Dogma," which outlines Jay and Silent Bob's journey from the end of Chasing Amy to the beginning of Dogma.
For all the alleged grief, Linda did play the part well though. Garofalo is excellent in Mystery Men.
One of my favorite anecdotes about this film is related to the protests when it opened in theaters by religious groups. Kevin Smith made a protest sign and joined one of the groups at a theater. They were interviewed by TV reporters and Smith appeared on TV holding a "Dogma is dog shit" sign. The reporter didn't know who he was and asked him his opinion on what the movie stands for - Smith replied, “I don’t know, but I’ve been told, ‘not good'.”
The golf club explanation is the best explanation of complicated movies. They bet that a Bishop would bless his golf-clubs to play better and they killed a demon because of it?! Well-blessed clubs. Just awesome.
RIP to Alan Rickman and George Carlin.
Dogma is my favorite ViewAskewniverse film. I enjoy a good religious satire and Dogma is one of the best out there.
Making Jay & Bob prophets is so funny, the whole Golden calf thing, and of course Alan Rickman's dulcet tones as the voice of god 😇
There's a bit of muddling of religious mythology (Muses are from Greek mythos, the name Loki doesn't appear in Abrahamic religions😅), but otherwise it's good fun.
I am not Catholic but have studied religion. This movie gets things right. My Catholic sister first recommended this movie to me. It is brilliant!
This is a top 3 film, for me. View Askew aside, it is such a great movie. It was pretty controversial when it came out. There is a great video on RUclips that is a news story about the Catholic Church protesting the film. The reporter noticed a familiar face amongst the protesters. It was Kevin Smith protesting against his own movie. 😂
"Dogma is dogshit" printed on that sweet and sugary sign.
I love that story of his.
Kevin is a great storyteller.
As a pretty lifelong atheist, I found it entertaining, and one of the more self-critical and introspective movies on the subject, whereas most works on the subject tend to be very one-sided or the other, and very culturally accessible (if not, well, very actually accessible, at least as much as it used to be before-still have it on dvd somewhere in storage).
This was some of the best writing Kevin Smith did. This movie was VERY controversial when it came out. It asked a lot of good questions about organized religion and belief. Kevin never said there was no god, only that the politics of organized religions skews the message.
So, it makes the view...askew? 😁
It's funny you say that Jay seems to have upped his game - Kevin Smith tells a great story about how he told Jason Mewes he would have to be on point because (paraphrasing) 'Alan Rickman is a real actor and he won't put up with your shit like Ben does', and then Mewes went away and learned the whole script by heart. As in, not just his own lines - everyone's lines. Just in case Alan Rickman got annoyed.
Also Bud Cort, the guy playing John Doe/God at the beginning, is in a brilliant off-kilter romcom called Harold and Maude from the 70s, which I keep trying to convince people would make a good Valentine's Day reaction
Oh wow, that's awesome of Jason to do! No wonder his lines had some more oomph to them.
I loved how they had George Carlin as the cardinal. His veiw on religion was always humorous. R.I.P. ...
39:24 Although Daft Punk did use those words in their music, it's really a reference to the 70's TV show "The Six Million Dollar Man" about a pilot who the government turns into a cyborg after an air crash
Wasn't that Kanye?
Thank you so i didnt had to explain that 🎉
Those words just made me think of that song, that's all!
@@kaiielle Oh no, it's totally fine. I just wanted to show where Kevin (a child of the 70's as myself) was coming from with it
Also the Daft Punk song came out in 2001.
For some reason, the scene between Alan Rickman and Linda Fiorentino at the lake always brings a tear to my eye. He explaining that he had to tell a child that it's his destiny to shoulder all this responsibility and sacrifice is rather heartbreaking. To me, it's the pivotal scene of the movie. It begs questions of faith.
"Is that Salma Hayek? I can never seem to remember what her face looks like for some reason." :D
This is my favorite Kevin Smith movie, by far, and I'm so happy you enjoyed it. No worries about the editing, you nailed it. As always, love your videos, take care, be well!
My Catholic sister recommended this to me. It is WONDERFUL. And reasonably accurate in terms of dogma.
Seeing Bud Cort in this (even in the teeny tiny part of John Doe Jersey) begs the question of whether you've ever seen "Harold & Maude". If not... there's another worthy addition to your ever-lengthening list of Movies To See/React To.
This was one of those pivotal movies for me growing up. It just spoke so truly to all the questions and feelings I had had about religion but could never put into words. To this day Alanis Morissette remains my favorite onscreen depiction of God. And Linda Fiorentino?! Her performance is so, so good and the glue that holds everything together.
I still wish that Kevin got his wish for his first pick for Bethany -- Gillian Anderson.
Agreed this and Saved.
I am person of faith and absolutely love this film.
Dogma has been one of my favorite movies since the first time I saw it. As someone whose faith is personal and not embodied by any religion, I feel a deep kinship with this movie. Like you, I cannot pick out any favorite actors, scenes or quotes; almost every moment is so wonderful. I wish more people could see it but, as you found out, that's not possible at this time.
Regarding your comments about Jason Mews, you're right. Kevin Smith has said that before filming started he went to Mews and told him "Look, you've got to be professional. This is a *real* film with *real* actors. You can't just be your normal self and goof off all the time."
Then Mews showed up to set and worked hard and was professional. One day Smith asked him why he didn't have his copy of the script with him, and Mews told him that he didn't need it because he had memorized it. Smith was shocked but Mews mentioned multiple lines, showing that he had memorized the entire script. When Smith asked him why he did that, Mews replied "Dude, *Alan Rickman* is in this film!"
I forgot all about my favorite joke in this movie, right up until it happened. Not an “elemental” but an “excremental.”
One of the reasons why Jason Mewes was so much better in this movie than previous ones is because after going through rehab, he felt Kevin Smith casting him again was a "second chance", and when he heard they were casting a "real actor" (Alan Rickman), he felt the need to step up his game. So much so, that he shows up on his first day with the entire script completely memorized.
The edit is great (even tho you did miss out my favourite line) lol - When Salma Hayek says 'Elvis was an artist, but that didn't stop him from joining the service in time of war. Thats why he's the King and your a shmuck'. I love her delivery of that line.
It's a good one!
The "golden calf" thing is lifted right out of the Old Testament, one of the idols being worshiped in lieu of God.
That line about it being so much easier to change an idea than a belief really hit home for me then & still does. As somebody known for their great dialogues, that conversation has always struck me as the best thing Smith has ever written. And casting George Carlin as a Catholic Cardinal was just brilliant!
The edit was perfect. I'm glad you enjoyed. Dogma is one of my favourite Askewniverse movies. Love that you are watching these.
I love how Dante from clerks, plays different characters throughout the series, and they all have the last name of hicks.
And they're Dante's cousins
Excellent catholic satire. I was shocked you didn't guess Jay and silent Bob from the metatron's description
Me too, to be honest. 😂
My favorite line got trimmed from your reaction. When Silent Bob throws the angels off the train, he gestures toward the door and tells the guy "no ticket". This is a direct reference to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Because Kevin Smith is a huge nerd. And since I am also a huge nerd, I love that kind of stuff. :)
Kevin Smith has a hilarious story about Jason Mewes knowing the ENTIRE script of this film.
At the time they had filmed it, Carlin had become a widower, and he wasn't ready to remove his wedding ring. So... Kevin worked around it, by having the Cardinal wear a bandage on that finger, hiding George's ring.
Love this movie! Funny and clever. I probably saw this way too young but I just always enjoyed it, some stuff went right over my head but I always had a blast. Ben and Matt are iconic in this, love their signature outfits they wear
Smith actually joined the protests against this movie. Greatest response, ever. He attended the premiere dressed in a sparkly red tux, complete with devil horns. His infant daughter, Harley, was dressed in an angel costume.
I’ve been waiting for this one since you started your View Askew journey; the way it combines such an original plot w pre-existing Askewniverse elements is a blast.
Jay is my inner monologue...
I met Kevin Smith/Silent Bob and Jason Mewes/Jay last year. They are the most amazing people to meet in person. Kevin takes his time to listen to his fans and talks to them. It’s not like I’m signing and bye but he will take minutes to talk to his fans. Amazing dude. Jason is also a cool dude. He had no one at his line and we talked a bit. Later that day he was racing a woman on a motorized wheel chair and he was one a motorized thing. She was yelling I’m letting him win. I caught that on camera and was lucky to see that. If you have a chance to meet them it is worth it
I saw this in theaters with my mom not long after she completed her master's degree in theology (she went on to teach in the religion department of a Catholic school) She loved the movie, it's her favorite Kevin Smith film.
"She can rebuild her, she has the technology" is from "The 6 Milllion Dollar Man"
"I can never remember what her face looks like for some reason."
A fantastic film on multiple levels. This is peak Kevin Smith , it’s a shame the film is now so difficult to get a hold of.
In the slim chance nobody else posted, the three children are in fact three of the horsemen of the apocalypse. The buzzing sound is meant to be flies for Pestilence.
Another fantastic reaction and looking forward to seeing the next one.
Why would they be 3 of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse? What happened to the 4th one?
@@deepermind4884 I could have sworn this was explained in the director’s commentary or something but I’ve not watched it in years. I’m probably just wrong on this one though 😳 now that I’ve checked the cast list
I remember renting this at Blockbuster when I was 10?ish and being SO confused but SO enthralled. It holds its age well and definitely awesome at every single rewatch. Love Alanis’ BOOP and Alan Rickman’s everything.
I saw you were watching this and immediately subscribed. Once you said you were going through the whole catalog I stopped and started with clerks. Kevin Smith gets an idea and makes a movie about it. He has an interesting mind and I’m excited to see how you react to the upcoming films. You look like you’re enjoying them as much as I did when I first watched.
Is it all connected?
In Dogma,Matt Damon portrays a “Loki” that could bring about the apocalypse.
In Thor: Ragnarok, Matt Damon portrays a “Loki” that does bring about the apocalypse.
In Loki season one we find a Loki learning the dogma of the T.V.A. and how to stop an apocalypse.
Oh yea the Matt Damon cameo was definitely done on purpose for dogma fans idk about the other one tho.
Edit: I’m glad people recognize the cameo I told my partner and others about this when we watched it together and they thought I was crazy because they had never seen dogma lol
You need to watch Jason Lee in his old sitcom "My Name Is Earl"!
Gonna get to that soon!
Kevin smith did a Q&A in Milwaukee for a tour for Clerks III not too long ago, and at it he said that the reason he had "hell on earth" be wisconsin in Dogma was purely cuz he needed a place the angels would need to be from in order to cross paths with bethany during the journey, and she needed to be from illinois so having them be from the state to the north made sense. He was worried some Wisconsionites would be upset about it, but apparently over the years when people came to him saying "You said Wisconsin was hell on earth," they'd follow it with "and you're GODDAMN RIGHT!"
as a lifelong Wisconsin resident myself, I can confirm he was indeed correct.
This came out when I was in late 20's and I became obsessed with it. I had the movie and the script in paperback. Which was cool because there was 2 missing scenes, one of which had Bethany counseling a young girl at the clinic. Alan Rickman stole the show for me and it was a massive loss when he passed.
Being a huge cinephile I have this movie as my #6 favorite flick. And you hit on all the reasons why with your excellent review.
Thank you so much for your hard work on this video.
It rocked.
Jason made sure he knew his lines for this one, (and was reportedly clean and sober throughout production) because he did not want to screw up in front of such prominant and great actor(s) like rickman and florientino. He was big fans of both.
You did a great job with the edit. You hit almost all of the great moments. Cheers!
While I haven't seen all of Kevin Smith's films, this is possibly my favorite one, as the religious aspect took it to the next level and why I enjoyed it so much. Everybody played their roles so well, as this is one of those movies that was way better than it had any right to be, absolutely loved everything about it.
Absolutely my favorite film in the View-Askew verse. And as for background, I'm an atheist who was raised as a Pentecostal Christian, and I definitely have some religious trauma from that upbringing. Fantastic story, fantastic cast, and a fantastic way to get some gears a grinding in the noggin when it comes to matters of faith and belief. Great reaction yet again!
Alanis' song during the end credits kills me
I thought it was a good edit of a difficult film, kudos!
I've seen a clip online of Smith talking about when she first played it for him and he started to cry, because she had so perfectly captured what he wanted to say with the movie.
42:30 the edit was great, you did a great job and it was still very cohesive. It was actually a fun watch and we can tell you enjoyed it. Awesome sauce!
Girl, I was trying to figure out where I recognized you from and it finally clicked...you collaborated with EOM on the Dazed and Confused reaction! Loved that reaction and this one was just as fun. Definite new subscriber here. Not much more to say about thus movie beyond all the comments below. It is certainly a shame that HW's name is tied up with the movie and it makes it so hard to find. Glad I've got my copy on DVD.😁 Great reaction! Keep being honest and keep being you!!!❤
Hi! Thanks so much. 😊
My favourite scene is Bartleby's rant to Loki. About how angels love for God isn't a choice for them, and probably the jealousy he has of humans that they have a free choice to love God or not, and to choose to believein God or not. Bartleby's love for God won't go away and he simultaneously hates God for that. And Loki's recognition that Lucifer was similarly angry before he was cast out of Heaven.
And I love the Alanis Morissette song, Still, at the end. It's my favourite of hers.
Loved the edit. Excellent job, I think you captured the movie perfectly, best reaction edit of this movie I’ve seen on here
Saw this for the first time a few weeks ago and wow! So fun. So freaking smart. Loved it.
Now onto Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back sometime in the future
I don't rewatch Dogma often, but I love getting first-time perspectives on it. It was one of my first 3 DVDs when I bought into the "new" media format, so I watched it frequently as my movie collection slowly grew. The movie met some newsworthy protests when it came out... one of which Kevin Smith showed up to and blended in with, just for fun.
I think it's Alan Rickman's performance that makes this my favorite Kevin Smith movie
I (52M) was raised Catholic and went to Catholic schools for most of my schooling (by choice). By High school I was (and am to this day) an Agnostic. This movie expressed exactly what my mindset was/is. Serendipity and Rufus both make perfect examples. When Serendipity (Muse) talks about how man basically misinterpreted everything. (I have always said "Imagine running the most pure and clean water through a screen filter filled with grime, rust, and garbage. What does that water look like after? God's pure and divine word, filtered through mankind, a deeply flawed, egotistic, self-important, prideful and hate-filled mess, and then expect any religious text to be anything close to divine is a fallacy.) When Rufus talks about the difference between a belief and an idea is also spot on. You can still have faith in an idea but for mankind to believe we have the capacity to truly knownor understand God, is blasphemy innthenhighest order. As it is, we only use 10% of our far less intelligent brain, but we totaly understand God. Give me a break.
As long as you realize that you've chosen an outlook that makes you feel good & you think it's the right one. Pretty much the same reasons other people have for believing what they believe. Just because you think you've come upon the right attitude about these things is not proof of being correct.
A friend of mine wanted to be a priest and went to seminary school for four years. I saw his wheels gradually turning that whole time, and by the end, he was a devout atheist. He still went on to get his PhD in the subject, though. 😂😂 I introduced him to this movie the week after he got his first degree, and it was instantly his favorite movie.
Yes, many theology students do end up as atheists!
@@kattahj You're not wrong. Honestly, I often asked him why we were friends since I've been an atheist since my teenage years. He always said it was because I was the only person he could speak Greek with in middle school. lol
I quite literally think that Dogma is one of the best movies ever made. And I understand not being able to pick a favourite performance, there are so many to choose from, but for me it's Rickman by a mile.
This was also one of my favourite movies to watch on DVD with the audio commentary, back when that was a thing I did often. One of my favourite anecdotes is that Kevin Smith basically told Jason Mewes that he'd need to be as professional as possible because, among others, Alan Rickman was going to be part of this project. The first time Jay showed up to do one of his scenes, he did great. When Kevin talked to him between scenes, it turns out that he not only memorized his own parts, but he memorized everyone else's parts in his scenes so he'd always know where he was, "coz I didn't wanna piss off that Rickman guy".
I think the only other thing I have to say is that I grew up watching Smurfs cartoons in the early 80s, so to me the name Azrael has always been Gargamel's cat.
You did a great job with the edit!
I thought the edit was fine (although, to be fair, I pretty much have the movie memorized at this point 🙂 )
One of my favorite things about the movie is how it's tightly written but doesn't seem to be. Bethany's complaints about god are all answered at the end of the movie, for example. Does god have a plan more important than Bethany's plan, in terms of her possible pregnancy? Actually, yes.
I have always been a fan of Kevin Smiths work especially growing up 20 miles from where he lived and filmed everything. But this movie was above and beyond in every aspect. I really feel that he had almost a “divine purpose” with this movie everyone gave there best and it shows.
BTW every time I go into Long Branch NJ I show everyone the church lol. Did it to my wife two weeks ago and got “Yeah Dogma you have told me a million times” Hey it’s iconic!!
Don't worry, you did great with the edit. Thank you for the reaction!
Great reaction! And yes, your edit was fine considering how dialogue heavy this movie is, you did pretty good 👍.
Mostly everything outside of the golgothan holds up really well. The narrative structure with regards to religion is actually really well done. It's hilarious that the movie was picketed by Catholics when, at the core, Kevin Smith really holds to true religious tenets for his story.
The VAST majority of the people who picketed the movie han not seen it or new much about it other than a writer/director known for social commentary humor made a movie that had a focus on Christianity.
First time viewer of yours, and an enormous fan of this movie. I must say your editing was great. It would be impossible to get all of the good lines, but you got the Boop! at the end so you are all good!
One of my favourite things about the pronoun switching was when Metatron was snotty about it but didn't push back.
"The one who speaks--and he will. At great length, whether you want him to or not--will make mention of himself as a prophet." 🤣 The best description of Jay ever.
Other favorite lines:
Rufus: "And if you clean up your language, I _might_ just put in a good word for you too."
Jay: 🤨
Bob: "Thanks."
"Mwurp." - God
Easily my favorite of the View Askew movies, but like, also, just in general. It is an interesting script that raises interesting questions about religion. That script is brought to like by Smith and the actors EXPERTLY. I could watch this movie on repeat for the rest of my life.
Your edit was perfectly fine...
Ben Affleck is indeed really good in this one and he seems to have a blast with his role. (But we all know he was the bomb in Phantoms).
Check out the Degrassi episodes with Kevin Smith and Alanis
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is my favourite Kevin Smith movie
Thanks for the awesome edit😁. Have ideas, not beliefs 🤗
As always, great reaction. It's always a pleasure to get your take on these films.
Best reaction yet superb film and edit 😊 bigger, faster, stronger reference is Six million dollar man😎in case u don’t know 😊I do cause I’m old 🤣🤣thx again 😎🇬🇧👍
When this one came out, I was instantly obsessed. Growing up like Bethany, going to church as a kid but then not going as you get older. Being surrounded by a family that was always using God or Jesus (whoever's on the Clock) or some sort of religious doctrine as emotional manipulation. No way No thanks. I'm Good 👍.
Also it truly demonstrated the Amazingness and Importance of The Garden State (my home state )
The line that sticks with me to this day is Rufus' line about Believing vs Having an Idea. That's engrained into my way of approaching many many situations and life in general.
Oh KL, I hope you like this. My alltime favourite KS movie. Laughed so hard in the theatre they almost kicked me out. KS finally lets go here with non stop criticism. And of course, there's George Carlin. Utter magic.
AWESOME!! I think its one of his best
The nun at the beginning is played by Betty Aberlin, who was in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood.p on public tv from the 60s to the 90s.
Kevin Smith used Alanis' "Everything" at the end of Clerks II and it stuck with me so much for some reason, I really love that song
I was the person who recommended this movie for my high school age church group, on our sleepover *at* the church. They loved it, the grown ups.... not so much. They all had some meetings about that.
Noice! You are a Rock Star, Kaiielle!🤩😍 My favourite Kevin Smith movie and in my Top 5 (possibly Top 3) films of all-time. Nice long reaction, too. 🥃☮❤
Kev took a lot of crap for this one. He even bagged on the whiny Christians complaining about it by literally joining in on one of their protests (and since, of course, none of them had ever seen a Kevin Smith movie, nobody really recognized him). Hilarious, thought-provoking, and an absolutely stacked cast (I'm not a believer, buy I'm cool with Alanis Morissette being God).
You cut my two favorite parts 😭 When Silent Bob says "No ticket" and when Alan Rickman says "You missed a bit" and holds out his sweater 😂
Its possible she missed those due to talking over dialogue.
My first current reaction of yours! I must say, I've been doing some catching up and you are a thoroughly enjoyable hostess, young lady. (Sorry, didn't mean to make you sound like food there.) Delightful content and I look forward to more! Thank you.
The movie that made me believe in God... for 2 weeks. I wasn't raised atheist (or really 'anything') and God was always fantasy like Superman, or Star Wars or other movies/books. This film made me really think about it... eventually I went back to thinking it was nonsense. BUT I did finally understand why people believe, even if I don't.
I love it. "No ticket!" Nice reference to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
I grew up semi religious and now am similar to Rufus ideas over belief. Love this movie as it feels like it was made for people with questions like me that happens to be smart & funny to get points across. Watched it alot and is my favorite KS movie.
Love the Court Of Thrones And Roses reference! Sarah J. Maas is awesome!
I think the only line I was surprised was left out the edit was Bob's "No ticket." after he .. assists .. Loki and Bartleby off the train - but definitely understand editing to fit YT's limitations is, at best, a nightmare. Loved the reaction :D
Yeah I haven't seen the Indiana Jones franchise so I didn't know that line was a direct reference to something. And I just chuckled at the line and felt like I already had enough of my chuckles in the reaction. 😅 Had I known that it was so popular I would have left it in lol.
So many great performances in this movie, but it always makes me miss Alan Rickman so much... he was just such a brilliant actor.
When they show George Carlin he has a bandaid on his ring finger, his wife passed away shortly before and he didn’t feel comfortable taking it off so he offered to put a bandaid over it. 😢
Bethany as the 'audience surrogate' as it were, was written with so much humanity that I sometimes forget she's a woman with a rather female-specific tragic past. Even though her crisis stems from an inability to bear a child, I can still connect with the root of her emotions viscerally through the grounded portrayal in the acting. We might not all have some familial ties with Jesus Christ himself forced upon us, but that scene in the lake where she is pleading 'why me?' will no doubt hit anyone on some specific nerve. And, just like Bethany, we all feel some amount of catharsis in Alan Rickman's beautifully empathic reply, he was just too bloody perfect a choice to be the bureaucratic voice of God; delivering a poignant, hilarious message with just enough gravitas to make it feel honest.