The problem with game preservation is the reliance on day 1 patches to fix issues in shipped games. 15 Years from now unless you downloaded all the patches and games to some hard disk, it wont matter which ps5 you have, you'll be playing a bugged game. I hope in the future they develop some kind of patch download service for old systems.
Aside from stuff like No Man’s Sky and cyberpunk and stuff this generally isn’t true. Most games are perfectly fine without a day 1 patch. And as of now, you’re still able to download day 1 patches and other free updates for all 3DS and Wii U games even though their stores have been shut down. I assume the same will be true for these other systems when their store gets shut down And realistically, in 15 years when the store shuts down, and even in 30 years or whatever when those free update servers eventually die, the PS5 will for sure be hacked and we’ll be able to load whatever games and updates we want. I wouldn’t worry too much about it
Retro gaming in the future is going to just be modding your old console to download the games you want to play. It's increasingly common for physical releases to be incomplete, or buggy, or for DLC to never get a physical release, etc. Viva la piracy
If you look closely, you can see a number of dots beside the different size screwholes. The number indicates which screw. Its really clever in my opinion.
The biggest question for the detachable disc drive is what many online are already asking. Once the disc drive has already been paired to the console, "is this a one time process for the life of the console, OR will it be required as part of the initial setup every time the console performs a factory reset?" Someone should do a video on this in order to answer this popular question.
@@lachychops2 From what i understand you probably have to un-bound it from one and bound it to the other. You can't have a drive bounded to two consoles at the same time and swap it easily back and forth.,
Nope, the last revision of the normal PS5 already had 6nm APU in it. There is no difference to the insides between this and the last revision. Maybe later down the line they will make a slim revision with a 5nm chip.
Wrong. the die shrink happened on the last version of the original PS5. This new "slim" model has the same CPU/GPU as the last revision of OG PS5. In essence, it is exactly the same hardware as the last revision of "fat" PS5.... but cost reduced and in a smaller case which may cause it to actually run hotter than the last version of PS5. To anyone looking to purchase a PS5 I suggest getting the last revision "fat" console which can be purchased at a good discount presently, or waiting 6 to 12 months until a newer "slim" revision is released with a die shrink.
@@hectortd4 I haven't really looked. My friend has a Foxconn fan and it had a terrible wobble/UFO effect. Luckily it's an easy fix with a couple of orings.
Too true. The PS3 slims were already kinda a sad sack shrink over the PS2 slim; but this is just pathetic given how much of the original was a bunch of empty white plastic cladding. I get diminishing returns given nodes these days; but surely Sony could have done better to shrink the size and thermals if got rid of space waster CURVES modern art aesthetic. No one cares about boxy consoles, good or bad; don't care, exclusives and reliability is all that matters.
Currently you can take 2 different ps5 slims register the drives and swap them and re register the drives and it works fine. That might change with future firmware because sony hates its customers but its where we are.
The only reason drive registration occurs is related to US law. Can't remember exactly which one but it requires certain provisions for the playback of certain media. The OG PS5 has had this done in the factory, this one doesn't since each registration actually costs Sony money. And there's no reason why it would change in future firmware, since the point is to register the drive,.not register the drive to the console.
Those kind of comment must be a Microsoft propaganda. Do you know how Microsoft hate their customer? blocking 3rd party controller and charge you 3 times for extra storage. And you stay silent.
Yes they do hate their customers. I will never buy a new playstation product ever. The old ps4 fat edition will be the last playstation unless I find a used ps5 for cheap. Like doesn't work cheap.
@@DraculVaDomni666 It's actually incredibly similar to what Microsoft did with the original Xbox. It didn't want to tack on the charge for DVD playback to the system price, so a separate dongle was sold that unlocked the ability. It has to do with copyright law and HDCP, etc.
I'm genuinely impressed Sony made the console so user friendly to upgrade and repair. Even compared to my original PS2 I've taken apart a few times, this look much more straight forwards. Props to Sony. The disc drive registration really rubs me the wrong way though. I'm assuming they have to pay to license the disc drive software or something, and its a way to save money? Honestly not sure.
It’s so third party companies can’t make disc drives for the ps5. Everyone could just buy the digital edition then buy a 20 dollar disc drive from china. It’s smart on their part.
@@jaeman8 I presume it's also to inhibit piracy, they probably have some special sauce in the disk drive to decrypt official disk and detect/block copies. Encrypting the communication prevents people from just connecting the official disk drive to a computer and copying disk that way (the interface is almost certainly an existing standard just with a weird shape like the difference between USB-B and USB-Micro and USB-Mini (those are all strictly client side connections, USB-A is strictly a host, and USB-C can be either)). A modified disk drive connected to the PS5 could also, potentially, be a security risk (for them) providing a path for unsigned (or fake signed) code to run (a simple hardware mod to enable advanced software modding).
It just doesn’t look like that much of a difference, the original PlayStation to the PSOne was a huge difference, the PS2 to PS2 Slim looked like it was literally sliced in half and compressed down, the PS3 to PS3 Slim was a great design change and reduced the size of the original behemoth massively. This looks like they literally scaled it down slightly in photoshop and added a racing stripe just to show it’s ‘new’.
@@EdexoteAnd that's totally fine. We all have to make our living. I just wish he'd at least be discreetly pointed out the high telemetry of Opera GX. He doesn't even need to mention that Opera has been managed by a Chinese consortium for several years.
@@j_a_e_r Sponsors tend to frown on content creators saying ANYTHING that can be perceived as even slightly negative about their product or service. I'm sure if he could slip something in there he would have (of course it's also possible he doesn't know the details but considering the quality of his content I'd expect him to have done his research). He's gotta eat somehow and buying multiple PS5's isn't exactly cheap either.
The console could still be a lot smaller if sony would make the slim model completely flat on all sides, the weird shapes still makes it look like there is a lot of the space wasted, but of course if these shapes were gone the whole personality of this console would be gone too.
I am very impressed - Sony managed to make it EVEN UGLIER. I do commend the simple modular design though; they either needed to make it much simpler to manufacture and faster to get out the door, or they expect to be repairing and replacing a lot of them, and needed to make that easier to do.
The PS5 had a die shrink. First Gen had 7ff while later ps5 including the slim has 6ff node. For some reason they startend shipping those already last year.
6nm isn't really a shrink. It's just an optimized 7nm process that probably improves yields. I doubt we'd see any true shrinks on this chip because nowadays shrinking chips makes them more expensive, not less. Nowadays you only want to shrink a chip if you can't achieve the power or performance targets, which is the opposite of a console where the performance needs to be exactly the same.
@@No.1komanga I agree, I was also kind of hoping that they would use a more standard thermal paste. I saw a video recently warning against standing your ps5 on its end for long periods of time because the liquid metal will flow to the bottom causing dry spots
It's pretty amazing to witness such a low component count on modern consoles. We got the SoC, DRAM and their power converters taking up half the space on the board, and the rest spread among flash, network, a few I/O transceivers and that seems about it.. All highly integrated. Also it's funny to me how they will go and use these rounded traces for high-speed signals but do not seem to feature any skew compensation on the exterior layers at least. It's true that getting theoretical perfect timing does not matter this much on these relatively short traces but it's still funny to me to have that aesthetic effort going on. Also, I'm not so sure having this many decoupling capacitors right under the SoC is such a great idea, that must eat into the power plane capacitance.. Definitely interesting to have an outer glimpse at this PCB. Thanks for sharing!
I'm going to argue that you are probably not looking hard enough, I was at Sam's club just yesterday and I saw a bunch of OG PS5 inside of a cage along side Xbox series X and Nintendo Switches where they keep gaming consoles. They're available, just look closer
I'm glad the drive can be swapped out easily, as that's usually the first thing to die on vintage consoles, nice future thinking on Sony's behalf. Would be curious if a third-party option would be possible, and if it'd also require registration. Glad they kept it M.2 easily accessible, and 2280/22110 compatible instead of shrinking it down to a 2230 like the steamdeck/rog ally. Here's hoping Sony rethinks having to register the drive, or if registration can be bypassed in a future cfw/jailbreak, but alas time will tell. Would love to see if performance takes a hit due to overheating during intense gaming sessions
My best guess is the drive registration is to prevent people hacking the drive itself or making some kind of optical drive emulator. I doubt it’s just registration I would bet that it’s also checking drive firmware integrity
insides arent much better, og model already has so cooling issues. Slim has no new soc and still uses lm which is pretty terrible for longevity. Neither was using a soldered ssd ever a good choice in any device.
They used to be good at it too. The PS1 is iconic, the PS2 and PS4 are at least unobjectionable, and the PS3... well, okay, they weren't _always_ good. If the plates didn't stick out so much the PS5 would look mostly fine I think.
@@TheWretchedEgg12 but it looks aesthetic inside compared to other companies, that’s aSony signature, not necessarily meaning it’s actually good hardware or design (whether it is or not), but that it’s well presented on the inside.
Considering that the plastic panel went flying across the room when I opened my original model PS5, having the hard drive more easily accessible is a very good thing.
Honest question: how is having a disk drive any good for game conservation if most games nowadays come with a day 1 almost full game size patch? Or some "absolutely necessary" patch. 15 o 20 years from now those won't be available. That's what I've been afraid of for game conservation since the previous generation of consoles.
You're correct, it's absolutely horrible for game preservation, having a disk drive isn't going to do much for the current gen. If you do proceed without patches then you're left with subpar performance, may be even crashes and losing out on a lot of features. The only Honest answer to your question is piracy...
“…play these games 15-20 years from now on your PS5…” I’m playing 22 year old digital Xbox games, and 18 year old digital Xbox 360 games with online play (any Xbox 360 game that used standard Xbox Live servers still works fine for online play on even a 10 year old Xbox through back-compat). Digital games on PC is even better than that. There’s no reason you should have to go physical to have that experience. And now that back-compat is well established on both Xbox and PS, I don’t think we will have many problems with this in the future. They may eventually turn off support for an old box, but so long as everything runs just great on the new box I think that’s acceptable. Old boxes die eventually anyway, if used regularly. I have a bunch of old consoles that work fine, but I also don’t use them regularly.
100 plus coming out of the chassis is kind of scary. My video card hits 181 Farenheit at the board before the turbo clock evens out. Putting my hand at the fans leaving the chassis I'm guessing it's about 85 degrees. I'd like to see what the board thermals are registering from the BIOS. Also, I'd like to know what the secondary chips on the board are. Specifically the one near the battery with the QR code on it.
100F (38C) isn't too bad. Most chips nowadays start thermal throttling around 80C (176F) and can go beyond 100C (212F) before shutting down for safety. I'd also like to see what the SOC and other chips are actually running at but chances are they're near the same temps as the output (there's likely to be a larger difference with a PC due to having more air space and possibly a larger heat sink inside the case, obviously I don't know you're exact setup).
This model uses a 6nm version of the SoC that was introduced with the PS5 that came in the God of War bundle. The launch models were using the 7nm SoC that had issues with over heating.
@@sammymcfone8281if you mean x86 and for gaming, no. even arm throttles too hard in slim portable devices without proper active cooling. you can get away with it with just a large heatsink, but you won't see that in portable devices.
Despite not being interested in the console itself, pretty interesting they took the approach of allowing users to easily access the internals like that. With this removeable drive, does this mean you can easily buy a used drive down the road and swap it out without the need to switch out the PCB and just register it to your account? Because that is really cool if they did that.
Oh come on man, not you too, you know opera is run by a very shady company, this browser is spyware. Next you’re gonna be telling us how great raid shadow legends is.
@@PaulTheFox1988 or PCIe. Almost certainly an existing standard with a custom connector, can't imagine it's worth the cost to create an entirely new standard.
@@grn1 it's possible but I don't see it being pcie personally, sata is a much better fit for a Bluray drive, it doesn't need ultra high speed like an NVMe drive, and pcie lanes are already in short supply so it would make sense to use the on-die sata from the apu instead of diverting pcie for a low speed device But in any case, you're absolutely right, it'll be a existing standard to save costs
@@PaulTheFox1988 I was thinking it might be PCIe due to the encryption and possibly other non-standard data (protocols that don't boil down to an address and data stream). Not sure how well SATA can be adapted to non-standard data though I suppose they do have the firmware region lock thing (which I just bypass with VLC). My understanding of SATA is that's it's pretty purpose built for things like disk drives but I'm certainly not an expert.
@@grn1 I would think the drive authenticated the disc, and once it passes it just sends the raw encrypted data over for decryption in the apu's psp (or some other means of decryption) rather than decrypting before sending it, in which case sata is absolutely fine for the task, but I'm absolutely not an expert in any of this, so I could be wildly wrong 😅 As for non-standard data, afaik there's nothing preventing a company from implementing their own stuff in addition to standards compliant sata except for inter-compatibility, which Sony aren't going to care about of course I guess the only way we'll ever know is if someone is able to sniff the bus and decode the signals to see what protocol it's using, or Sony straight up tells us
Can someone explain me why the PS5 fat is deemed to be better for physical media than the slim+drive? Im not sure to understand the reason. The fat got its drive registered at the factory and the slim at your home. Once done, what is the difference? I guess im missing something?
The difference is that with the slim when the servers are dead, you are not gonna be able to register a disc drive either because you disc drive got damaged or because you got a ps5 that never got a disc drive register and the worst of all, if you factor reset your ps5 slim the registration between your console and the disc drive gets erased, so you need to register the drive again, so this is gonna be an issue in the future, while with the ps5 you are gonna be able to to play those games without an internet conection.
As far as I understand it only needs an internet connection to register the drive the first time when you install it. Then it's the same as the classic PS5. Why wouldn't you recommend it for physical media?
the only thing that make me skipping ps5 is the ssd it's not detachable if anything happened to it you can't replace it easily especially for a jailbroken ones because the failure rate off ssd is higher
I lost all interest in consoles after the ps3 x360 days, I only game on pc since but I must say this is shocking to see a console that's finally made to be easy to clean, impressive sony well done
To me the Spider man PS5 looked too cool so i bought that even though i knew this slim was coming out. I am happy with it now i'll wait to see if a Pro comes out. If it comes out them maybe in 2-3 years i'll buy the Pro, if not then maybe i'll just buy some special edition slim.
You still need internet to save locally. i have the fat model ps5 and it says it needs internet to save locally. its the disc drive model. i have physical games on disc.
We got the die shrink early (before the slim) this time around, they went from 7nm to 6nm with the CFI-1202+ about a year ago I doubt they'll do another die shrink before a couple of years...
why is it that when I play quality mode, it always overheats, like playing ea fc, and f1 2024, even overheats when ea fc replay, or f1 when in the menu... but performance mode is still safe. PS Slim is only 2 months old
Help an old guy understand why disc in the first version better? Is there still blue Ray in these systems? What about backward compatibility? I have ps3 & 4 then I quit gaming for years.
Honestly, I don't see the one-time online drive verification check as a problem on the preservation front. The majority of users will be buying new units now, and used units when the PS5 is retired. Used dives from one system don't need to be re-verified to be installed on another. And as far as the few new units that may be floating around in the future when the verification servers are gone, by then someone will have come up with a trick to verify the drive without the servers.
None slim PS5 video have answered my question: does factory reset /reinstall system software from safe mode unregister disc drive? If not, I don't see why we should choose the old model.
Honestly it'll be fine during the active lifecycle of the console. During its legacy time, the modding community will figure out how to do Sony's job for them for preservation. And Sony still won't care about what the community does once PS6 comes out. My first Samsung drive which is a 960 M.2 is still fine after 7 years with 20-30 TB written to it. The SSDs are just like hard drives where some thing better and cheaper will be available every 3-5 years.
if you are like me and didn't decide to get a ps5 until now. why not the slim? i got the spiderman 2 edition slim because it was the exact same price as the none slim. what pushed it over the edge for me was the extra internal storage. now add in the advantages, its smaller & lighter, swappable disc drive.
Great video MVG! I am only seeing videos regarding the removable and registration Disc discussion in videos about 5 months ago. Is this something that is a non issue today in May 2024? I have been watching used PS5s and originally liked the idea of an easy replacement of the disc drive so I didn't have to take it to a repair shop. However, the registration part scares me because I do collect many PS4 and PS5 games and want to preserve that. Any new comments on this topic, it appears it is a one time registration for the disc to the console. Should I look for the last version of the OG instead of picking up a slim? Thx
I hope that the Pro model comes with an expansion slot that you could buy and plug in to the ps5 pro to enable ps3 backwards compatibility, it would have to include some additional hardware to handle the CELL processor emulation. Knowing Sony this will never happen.
Having to register the disk drive is ridiculous, I refuse to buy something with these sort of unnecessary strings attached. Interesting vid as always MVG you're the best❤
The disc drive is already registered at the factory. It's something every console does. Sony is just allowing the user to do that step in order to allow for swappable drives.
You do know that every time you stick a New Blu-Ray Movie in a Player it has a New Key. Just like all DMCA HDCP compliant device is Welcome to the Digital Future 2008..
@@j_tylor_captylor3822 no I don't know, I'm happy to admit I got no idea about this crap and it seems like it should be invisible to the end user all I know is I shouldn't have to connect to the internet to use a piece of hardware
Barring the BDXL drive DRM requiring online registration, I love the fact that I can replace the BDXL drive in my PS5 Slim easily if there's something wonky with it. Also, I am kinda not surprised that PS5 Slim still use liquid metal thermal paste, as obviously you're handling what's essentially a rather powerful supercomputer on chip which demand decent cooling - regular thermal pastes won't cut the mustard here. As for the removable panels, I am seriously considering getting black ones.
i have bought my original ps5 for $480 back in my day, i came close to buying the slim digital for $399 and adding my 2 tb sdd from my old ps5 and keeping that one as backup and my slim as my main and travel go ps5… thoughts? please let me know.
I would like to know more about the noise profile of the console. My Launch PS5 has a rattling Nidec fan and a buzzing Power Supply. It never ran "whisper quiet" for me when playing PS5 games. I wonder if that's different with the new model. Or maybe it's still just bad luck.
“PRO” tip for those who don’t remember which is the eject button: Hit the OPTIONS button while hovering above any of the apps in the game line, select EJECT DISC and press X (cross).
Or it could be the metal of those ports is reflecting ambient heat towards the camera which show up as hot spots, and if mvg isn't correcting for this and many other problems inherent to these cameras then thermal imaging is worse than useless. If gamers nexus decide to take a look at the slim then I'd watch their analysis of the design, as they're among the best at this kind of testing, even if it means waiting a while it is still better than trying to infer meaningful info from a thermal camera that's potentially being used improperly.
6:20 its FW 7.40 FW 6.00 was released a year ago with the GoD of War PS5. Its end of 2023 my friend. No chance you will ever find a PS5 slim on 6.00. 😂
I got a slim for my gaming room(fat in living room), my issue is even though heat isnt worse it isnt better. In the FGC we're having issues with ps5s getting destroyed due to the USB ports melting being ripped out. The 2 usb c ports up front are great but no stick manufacturer uses USB c as the default.
But what if I buy a Gonzalo Slim with the Disc Drive? Am I good? Do I still need to connect one time? I am specifically an offline gamer (a one time connection now isn't bad, but what about 20 years from now?).
Can you replace the original drive in the “fat” model? I thought it was also hardware locked to the main board? IF that’s accurate than effectively there is no difference between models when it comes to drive failure. Might even be the opposite of what you suggest and getting the slim model with an extra drive and registering both is really the best option for game preservation. Oh and you can’t learn anything the temperature of a heat sink. A hotter heat sink can be because it’s more efficient at pulling heat out of the die and into itself or it could mean it’s completely saturated and not large enough. Regardless without die temp the heat sink temp is completely meaningless, just one part of an incomplete equation.
Yeah you can't swap the drive on the OG model, so I don't see why anyone would care the slim takes a 1 time registration unless the plan was to keep it in a box and never open it.
About the disc drive, the problem with the slim is that it needs an Internet connection to register the drive, this is not an issue now, but when the servers dies, then is gonna be an issue, because when you format your console, it unregister the drive, so with no server conection how are you gonna register the disc drive?, see the problem, the og so far is the best option for game preservation because the disc drive is gonna be always register to thr console no matter what, and that's how the slim should have been.
whats the point of youtube premium if theres in-video ads?! and not only that, i think it sullies any finished product. there really has to be a better way because youtube is losing out on customers with this
@MVG are you sure that's not firmware 7.4 and not 6.0? I've got a PS5 with firmware 3.10 which appears on the left hand side with the area where yours says 6.0 mine has zeros.
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How is the fan noise on the slim? I seen some videos of the slim where the fan runs really high speed and is loud.
@@TheDeeplyCynicali dont trust a guy who tells us that the PS5 Slim FW is 6.00 😂
6.00 is impossible
Its on 7.40
The problem with game preservation is the reliance on day 1 patches to fix issues in shipped games. 15 Years from now unless you downloaded all the patches and games to some hard disk, it wont matter which ps5 you have, you'll be playing a bugged game. I hope in the future they develop some kind of patch download service for old systems.
Most games actually aren't that glitchy at launch. It's just you only hear about the ones that are because that's all that's ever reported on.
Aside from stuff like No Man’s Sky and cyberpunk and stuff this generally isn’t true. Most games are perfectly fine without a day 1 patch. And as of now, you’re still able to download day 1 patches and other free updates for all 3DS and Wii U games even though their stores have been shut down. I assume the same will be true for these other systems when their store gets shut down
And realistically, in 15 years when the store shuts down, and even in 30 years or whatever when those free update servers eventually die, the PS5 will for sure be hacked and we’ll be able to load whatever games and updates we want. I wouldn’t worry too much about it
Retro gaming in the future is going to just be modding your old console to download the games you want to play. It's increasingly common for physical releases to be incomplete, or buggy, or for DLC to never get a physical release, etc. Viva la piracy
Releasing working games would help
@@thefool3424most triple A games these days are buggy messes. Stop denying it
If you look closely, you can see a number of dots beside the different size screwholes. The number indicates which screw. Its really clever in my opinion.
The biggest question for the detachable disc drive is what many online are already asking. Once the disc drive has already been paired to the console, "is this a one time process for the life of the console, OR will it be required as part of the initial setup every time the console performs a factory reset?" Someone should do a video on this in order to answer this popular question.
also, is a drive bonded to a console?
The key questions, can you:
- swap many drives to one console
- swap many consoles to one drive
They've already answer that question a weeks ago, every time you reset the console you have to pair the drive again
@@lachychops2 Yes the drive is bounded to the console, but if you have 2 drives bounded to a console you can swap them freely
@@christopherbolis2048 can you swap a drive between consoles?
@@lachychops2 From what i understand you probably have to un-bound it from one and bound it to the other. You can't have a drive bounded to two consoles at the same time and swap it easily back and forth.,
There was a die shrink. They went from 7nm to 6nm I believe. The die is in fact smaller, it's been measured.
You are absolutely correct Sir. I'm surprised MVG didn't know about that.
The shrink isn't new to slim, Sony already shifted to 6nm on the most recent ps5 revision
Nope, the last revision of the normal PS5 already had 6nm APU in it.
There is no difference to the insides between this and the last revision.
Maybe later down the line they will make a slim revision with a 5nm chip.
Wrong. the die shrink happened on the last version of the original PS5. This new "slim" model has the same CPU/GPU as the last revision of OG PS5. In essence, it is exactly the same hardware as the last revision of "fat" PS5.... but cost reduced and in a smaller case which may cause it to actually run hotter than the last version of PS5.
To anyone looking to purchase a PS5 I suggest getting the last revision "fat" console which can be purchased at a good discount presently, or waiting 6 to 12 months until a newer "slim" revision is released with a die shrink.
The fan is actually slightly different when you put them side by side with the first revision.
There're 4 different fan variants used in PS5. Nidec, Delta, NMB and Foxconn.
@@greggski3710Charlie Delta Echo Geronimo
@@greggski3710 Yep
This one is Foxconn if I'm not mistaken
@@hectortd4 I haven't really looked. My friend has a Foxconn fan and it had a terrible wobble/UFO effect.
Luckily it's an easy fix with a couple of orings.
@@greggski3710 I initially read that as onions. I did a double take. :D
The modularity of the design seems to make it very user friendly and servicable
I took apart my PS5 here is what I found............*5 minutes later*...Yeah...that's ehhh?...that's a PS5 alright...
It's definitely has technology in there
One of the consoles of all time
Ah yes. The PS5 is made out of PS5.
Damn, man. Why did you spoil the ending!
Too true. The PS3 slims were already kinda a sad sack shrink over the PS2 slim; but this is just pathetic given how much of the original was a bunch of empty white plastic cladding. I get diminishing returns given nodes these days; but surely Sony could have done better to shrink the size and thermals if got rid of space waster CURVES modern art aesthetic. No one cares about boxy consoles, good or bad; don't care, exclusives and reliability is all that matters.
Currently you can take 2 different ps5 slims register the drives and swap them and re register the drives and it works fine.
That might change with future firmware because sony hates its customers but its where we are.
Seems more like DRM for blurays and to avoid an exploit of the ps5 via the disc drive.
The only reason drive registration occurs is related to US law. Can't remember exactly which one but it requires certain provisions for the playback of certain media. The OG PS5 has had this done in the factory, this one doesn't since each registration actually costs Sony money.
And there's no reason why it would change in future firmware, since the point is to register the drive,.not register the drive to the console.
Those kind of comment must be a Microsoft propaganda. Do you know how Microsoft hate their customer? blocking 3rd party controller and charge you 3 times for extra storage. And you stay silent.
Yes they do hate their customers. I will never buy a new playstation product ever. The old ps4 fat edition will be the last playstation unless I find a used ps5 for cheap. Like doesn't work cheap.
@@DraculVaDomni666 It's actually incredibly similar to what Microsoft did with the original Xbox. It didn't want to tack on the charge for DVD playback to the system price, so a separate dongle was sold that unlocked the ability. It has to do with copyright law and HDCP, etc.
I'm genuinely impressed Sony made the console so user friendly to upgrade and repair. Even compared to my original PS2 I've taken apart a few times, this look much more straight forwards. Props to Sony. The disc drive registration really rubs me the wrong way though. I'm assuming they have to pay to license the disc drive software or something, and its a way to save money? Honestly not sure.
It’s so third party companies can’t make disc drives for the ps5. Everyone could just buy the digital edition then buy a 20 dollar disc drive from china. It’s smart on their part.
@@jaeman8 I presume it's also to inhibit piracy, they probably have some special sauce in the disk drive to decrypt official disk and detect/block copies. Encrypting the communication prevents people from just connecting the official disk drive to a computer and copying disk that way (the interface is almost certainly an existing standard just with a weird shape like the difference between USB-B and USB-Micro and USB-Mini (those are all strictly client side connections, USB-A is strictly a host, and USB-C can be either)). A modified disk drive connected to the PS5 could also, potentially, be a security risk (for them) providing a path for unsigned (or fake signed) code to run (a simple hardware mod to enable advanced software modding).
It just doesn’t look like that much of a difference, the original PlayStation to the PSOne was a huge difference, the PS2 to PS2 Slim looked like it was literally sliced in half and compressed down, the PS3 to PS3 Slim was a great design change and reduced the size of the original behemoth massively.
This looks like they literally scaled it down slightly in photoshop and added a racing stripe just to show it’s ‘new’.
racing stripes makes it faster as we all know
Even the ps1 they didn´t made much, if you watch closely they "just" toke of the power supply from the console to a power brick.
thats why its not called the slim, its officially a model revision
The ps3 slimdown also removed hardware for ps2 compatibility didn't it? Or did that happen before the slim revision?
@@user-yr1uq1qe6y it did remove ps2 compatibility yeah
The most shocking thing about this video is that Opera is still a thing 😮
It's actually damn good now
While the import feature doesn't work for passwords, it uses ublock Origin like a champ to keep ads off of YT.
In name only. In spirit, it lives on in the Vivaldi browser under one of Opera's former founders.
@@ClockworkBard It does, Opera GX is based on Chromium.
@@HyperMario64like they said, in name only
Opera GX comes also with a massive amount of tracking 🙃
Somehow I doubt that's important to him 😛 All he wants is that sweet money.
@@EdexoteAnd that's totally fine. We all have to make our living. I just wish he'd at least be discreetly pointed out the high telemetry of Opera GX. He doesn't even need to mention that Opera has been managed by a Chinese consortium for several years.
@@j_a_e_ri like blaine and all but 💸💸💸💸
No wonder tbh, since Opera has been sold to some Chinese company, which means it likely has been turned into CCP-spyware
@@j_a_e_r Sponsors tend to frown on content creators saying ANYTHING that can be perceived as even slightly negative about their product or service. I'm sure if he could slip something in there he would have (of course it's also possible he doesn't know the details but considering the quality of his content I'd expect him to have done his research). He's gotta eat somehow and buying multiple PS5's isn't exactly cheap either.
The console could still be a lot smaller if sony would make the slim model completely flat on all sides, the weird shapes still makes it look like there is a lot of the space wasted, but of course if these shapes were gone the whole personality of this console would be gone too.
God forbid it not look like a bad dragon tie in product for the movie iRobot
A MVG video perfect way to relax after a morning walk
I am very impressed - Sony managed to make it EVEN UGLIER. I do commend the simple modular design though; they either needed to make it much simpler to manufacture and faster to get out the door, or they expect to be repairing and replacing a lot of them, and needed to make that easier to do.
1:30 Interstellar Soundtrack gives me allways vibes ⭐️⭐️⭐️
I have no plans to buy any modern game consoles, but its still neat to see what's inside them.
The PS5 already had a die shrink from 7nm to 6nm not that long ago in the original model. That's why they didn't change it again for the Slim.
Yes this is basically the case catching up with the previous die shrink.
With the housing being so easily removed, I guess it won't be long before we see new housing with artwork.
Fantastic music choice for the later half of the video, you can never go wrong with an Ace Combat soundtrack
The PS5 had a die shrink. First Gen had 7ff while later ps5 including the slim has 6ff node. For some reason they startend shipping those already last year.
6nm isn't really a shrink. It's just an optimized 7nm process that probably improves yields. I doubt we'd see any true shrinks on this chip because nowadays shrinking chips makes them more expensive, not less. Nowadays you only want to shrink a chip if you can't achieve the power or performance targets, which is the opposite of a console where the performance needs to be exactly the same.
I'm aware that nm values are marketing. But the chip die was reported to be reduced from 300mm² to 260mm² which is significant
You are not running 6.00, you are at 07.40, 6:22
The most interesting thing inside for me is that they're still using liquid metal on the SOC
I was hoping they would use regular thermal paste with the new PS5. Sony really didn't change much. It's kind of disappointing.
@@No.1komanga I agree, I was also kind of hoping that they would use a more standard thermal paste. I saw a video recently warning against standing your ps5 on its end for long periods of time because the liquid metal will flow to the bottom causing dry spots
It's pretty amazing to witness such a low component count on modern consoles. We got the SoC, DRAM and their power converters taking up half the space on the board, and the rest spread among flash, network, a few I/O transceivers and that seems about it.. All highly integrated. Also it's funny to me how they will go and use these rounded traces for high-speed signals but do not seem to feature any skew compensation on the exterior layers at least. It's true that getting theoretical perfect timing does not matter this much on these relatively short traces but it's still funny to me to have that aesthetic effort going on. Also, I'm not so sure having this many decoupling capacitors right under the SoC is such a great idea, that must eat into the power plane capacitance.. Definitely interesting to have an outer glimpse at this PCB. Thanks for sharing!
Its amazing how iv still not seen a PS5 readily available for sale at any store yet theres already a slim version.
They have been readily available in the UK for the last 18 months
Sounds like a skill issue, they are showing up at pawn shops its been so long, thats how i got mine for 150 bucks off.
I'm going to argue that you are probably not looking hard enough, I was at Sam's club just yesterday and I saw a bunch of OG PS5 inside of a cage along side Xbox series X and Nintendo Switches where they keep gaming consoles. They're available, just look closer
Because most of them are ordered online
Do you live in Antarctica? I got mine day 1 no issues, been enjoying it since
Ok, Lets wait the slim slim version.
for the ps3, they called it the super slim
I'm glad the drive can be swapped out easily, as that's usually the first thing to die on vintage consoles, nice future thinking on Sony's behalf. Would be curious if a third-party option would be possible, and if it'd also require registration.
Glad they kept it M.2 easily accessible, and 2280/22110 compatible instead of shrinking it down to a 2230 like the steamdeck/rog ally.
Here's hoping Sony rethinks having to register the drive, or if registration can be bypassed in a future cfw/jailbreak, but alas time will tell.
Would love to see if performance takes a hit due to overheating during intense gaming sessions
My best guess is the drive registration is to prevent people hacking the drive itself or making some kind of optical drive emulator. I doubt it’s just registration I would bet that it’s also checking drive firmware integrity
@@Maximus20778xbox wanted to forbid game disk sharing my friend. 😂
@@Maximus20778 dont buy it if you don't like it. 👍
@@Maximus20778 me neither. But if, dont buy it!
I think it's to prevent hacked disc drives from playing burnt discs.
Gotta give it to Sony for making the most attractive hardware guts! Now they just need to work on making the outside look better! 😂
it really is astonishing how dedicated they are to arguably the worst console case design in gaming history lmao
insides arent much better, og model already has so cooling issues. Slim has no new soc and still uses lm which is pretty terrible for longevity. Neither was using a soldered ssd ever a good choice in any device.
And still its better than anything MS ever made ;)
They used to be good at it too. The PS1 is iconic, the PS2 and PS4 are at least unobjectionable, and the PS3... well, okay, they weren't _always_ good.
If the plates didn't stick out so much the PS5 would look mostly fine I think.
@@TheWretchedEgg12 but it looks aesthetic inside compared to other companies, that’s aSony signature, not necessarily meaning it’s actually good hardware or design (whether it is or not), but that it’s well presented on the inside.
Considering that the plastic panel went flying across the room when I opened my original model PS5, having the hard drive more easily accessible is a very good thing.
Got a Australian accent but talks in inches and fahrenheit Love your videos by the way
Still waiting for the UK release like it's 1999
a 2min sponsor is brutal.... i hope sponsors realize this.... But anyway, thank you for your channel!
I love how replaceable the disc drive is. I hate that it needs registering
Every drive in a console is auto registered to that console at the factory. This is just the user manually doing it to swap drives seamlessly.
I can understand why it would need registering. If not the console would be open to piracy.
There already was a die shrink with last, 1200 series of PS5, down to 6nm with Oberon+ revision of SoC.
Is the 1200 series better than the older ones in terms of cooling?
Honest question: how is having a disk drive any good for game conservation if most games nowadays come with a day 1 almost full game size patch? Or some "absolutely necessary" patch.
15 o 20 years from now those won't be available.
That's what I've been afraid of for game conservation since the previous generation of consoles.
You're correct, it's absolutely horrible for game preservation, having a disk drive isn't going to do much for the current gen. If you do proceed without patches then you're left with subpar performance, may be even crashes and losing out on a lot of features.
The only Honest answer to your question is piracy...
1. Complete Editions exist for many games
2. Update servers dont go offline with the store
3. There will be other ways to patch a game
“…play these games 15-20 years from now on your PS5…”
I’m playing 22 year old digital Xbox games, and 18 year old digital Xbox 360 games with online play (any Xbox 360 game that used standard Xbox Live servers still works fine for online play on even a 10 year old Xbox through back-compat). Digital games on PC is even better than that.
There’s no reason you should have to go physical to have that experience. And now that back-compat is well established on both Xbox and PS, I don’t think we will have many problems with this in the future. They may eventually turn off support for an old box, but so long as everything runs just great on the new box I think that’s acceptable.
Old boxes die eventually anyway, if used regularly. I have a bunch of old consoles that work fine, but I also don’t use them regularly.
Despite it being feint, the BGM was unmistakably from Keiki Kobayashi. I fully support MVG using Ace Combat music in his videos!
Have you tried to remove and install the clock battery?
100 plus coming out of the chassis is kind of scary. My video card hits 181 Farenheit at the board before the turbo clock evens out. Putting my hand at the fans leaving the chassis I'm guessing it's about 85 degrees. I'd like to see what the board thermals are registering from the BIOS. Also, I'd like to know what the secondary chips on the board are. Specifically the one near the battery with the QR code on it.
100F (38C) isn't too bad. Most chips nowadays start thermal throttling around 80C (176F) and can go beyond 100C (212F) before shutting down for safety. I'd also like to see what the SOC and other chips are actually running at but chances are they're near the same temps as the output (there's likely to be a larger difference with a PC due to having more air space and possibly a larger heat sink inside the case, obviously I don't know you're exact setup).
with the panels off, the gap next to the fan makes the ps5 slim look like a giant keychain! 😄
This model uses a 6nm version of the SoC that was introduced with the PS5 that came in the God of War bundle. The launch models were using the 7nm SoC that had issues with over heating.
At 9:15 if you look closely, you can see beside each screw hole are dots which tell you the screw size.
I usually use my controller to eject disc still doesn't make sense why the original had chameleon buttons
I don't get the confusion the outer button has always been power while inside is eject
I actually like the minimalist design for a change
Man, the PS2 Slim throws so much mad shade at this by just existing...
There has been a die shrink already for the PS5. The original console is 7nm, while a newer revision and this one are 6nm.
Do you think x64 portable chips are viable yet or only with a huge fan?
"shrink"
@@sammymcfone8281if you mean x86 and for gaming, no. even arm throttles too hard in slim portable devices without proper active cooling. you can get away with it with just a large heatsink, but you won't see that in portable devices.
@mikev190 its 10% smaller die size and power reduction so yeah
@@Maximus20778It is when you're talking about processors
Despite not being interested in the console itself, pretty interesting they took the approach of allowing users to easily access the internals like that. With this removeable drive, does this mean you can easily buy a used drive down the road and swap it out without the need to switch out the PCB and just register it to your account? Because that is really cool if they did that.
Yup you can swap it for a different one, tronicsfix did a test on it. Just needs an update and reboot
@@Angultra That's really cool. Kudos to Sony on this one.
Oh come on man, not you too, you know opera is run by a very shady company, this browser is spyware. Next you’re gonna be telling us how great raid shadow legends is.
We live in a world where you sadly have to sell your soul to get by.. Especially in this whole influencer space.
@@PinePizza We don’t have to, but I get you.
I wonder what is the connector/protocol used for the drive. Seems to have too many connectors for simple usb3
Could just be sata with combined data and power and is just a custom connector.
@@PaulTheFox1988 or PCIe. Almost certainly an existing standard with a custom connector, can't imagine it's worth the cost to create an entirely new standard.
@@grn1 it's possible but I don't see it being pcie personally, sata is a much better fit for a Bluray drive, it doesn't need ultra high speed like an NVMe drive, and pcie lanes are already in short supply so it would make sense to use the on-die sata from the apu instead of diverting pcie for a low speed device
But in any case, you're absolutely right, it'll be a existing standard to save costs
@@PaulTheFox1988 I was thinking it might be PCIe due to the encryption and possibly other non-standard data (protocols that don't boil down to an address and data stream). Not sure how well SATA can be adapted to non-standard data though I suppose they do have the firmware region lock thing (which I just bypass with VLC). My understanding of SATA is that's it's pretty purpose built for things like disk drives but I'm certainly not an expert.
@@grn1 I would think the drive authenticated the disc, and once it passes it just sends the raw encrypted data over for decryption in the apu's psp (or some other means of decryption) rather than decrypting before sending it, in which case sata is absolutely fine for the task, but I'm absolutely not an expert in any of this, so I could be wildly wrong 😅
As for non-standard data, afaik there's nothing preventing a company from implementing their own stuff in addition to standards compliant sata except for inter-compatibility, which Sony aren't going to care about of course
I guess the only way we'll ever know is if someone is able to sniff the bus and decode the signals to see what protocol it's using, or Sony straight up tells us
Why on earth do you need to register the disc drive!?
Honestly miss the boxy look like the PS2.
yep, the ps5 must be the ugliest ever and the slim is not much better. Ps4 was the best imho.
@@grproteus PS4 is a freaking jet engine lol. I did not enjoy playing it much because of the heat and noise it produced.
@@grproteus much agreed, ps4 indeed was the best, at least in terms of looks
Can someone explain me why the PS5 fat is deemed to be better for physical media than the slim+drive? Im not sure to understand the reason.
The fat got its drive registered at the factory and the slim at your home.
Once done, what is the difference?
I guess im missing something?
The difference is that with the slim when the servers are dead, you are not gonna be able to register a disc drive either because you disc drive got damaged or because you got a ps5 that never got a disc drive register and the worst of all, if you factor reset your ps5 slim the registration between your console and the disc drive gets erased, so you need to register the drive again, so this is gonna be an issue in the future, while with the ps5 you are gonna be able to to play those games without an internet conection.
@@checob224 Ok. Got it. So the reset on the PS5 Slimwill erase the registration?
Thanks!
As far as I understand it only needs an internet connection to register the drive the first time when you install it. Then it's the same as the classic PS5. Why wouldn't you recommend it for physical media?
This uses the 6nm die from late 2022 as opposed to the original 2020 7nm?
Yes, same as Fat 1216a
the only thing that make me skipping ps5 is the ssd it's not detachable if anything happened to it you can't replace it easily especially for a jailbroken ones because the failure rate off ssd is higher
I lost all interest in consoles after the ps3 x360 days, I only game on pc since but I must say this is shocking to see a console that's finally made to be easy to clean, impressive sony well done
Massively better design IMO, purely speaking about the looks. Just looks much more finished, the release model never stopped looking odd to me.
To me the Spider man PS5 looked too cool so i bought that even though i knew this slim was coming out.
I am happy with it now i'll wait to see if a Pro comes out. If it comes out them maybe in 2-3 years i'll buy the Pro, if not then maybe i'll just buy some special edition slim.
Digging the Ace Combat 7 Fort Grays music throughout the vid MVG ;)
so slim is just a ps5 in a smaller case and a better cooling, that will be much easier for universal mods in 2035-2040, when ps5 becomes retro!
We may see a super slim like the ps3 on 5 or 4nm when it becomes cheaper in 2027 or something
You still need internet to save locally. i have the fat model ps5 and it says it needs internet to save locally. its the disc drive model. i have physical games on disc.
We got the die shrink early (before the slim) this time around, they went from 7nm to 6nm with the CFI-1202+ about a year ago
I doubt they'll do another die shrink before a couple of years...
So until the PS6 comes out.
why is it that when I play quality mode, it always overheats, like playing ea fc, and f1 2024, even overheats when ea fc replay, or f1 when in the menu... but performance mode is still safe. PS Slim is only 2 months old
Help an old guy understand why disc in the first version better? Is there still blue Ray in these systems? What about backward compatibility? I have ps3 & 4 then I quit gaming for years.
Honestly, I don't see the one-time online drive verification check as a problem on the preservation front. The majority of users will be buying new units now, and used units when the PS5 is retired. Used dives from one system don't need to be re-verified to be installed on another. And as far as the few new units that may be floating around in the future when the verification servers are gone, by then someone will have come up with a trick to verify the drive without the servers.
I knew you were using music from Ace Combat 7 before I looked. Nice.
Sony already had a die shrink with 7nm to 6nm which you'd expect MVG to know
happy thanksgiving MVG
My question is can you re-register the disk drive, if say you sell your disk drive to someone, or is that drive forever married to the original PS5?
None slim PS5 video have answered my question: does factory reset /reinstall system software from safe mode unregister disc drive? If not, I don't see why we should choose the old model.
Yes
That's a nice board layout and it appears that we can still solder stuff to it for repair and other mods. Thanks for the disassembly and overview MVG!
I am really worried about this soldered SSDs this new consoles have. They are a lifespan limit on this consoles.
Honestly it'll be fine during the active lifecycle of the console. During its legacy time, the modding community will figure out how to do Sony's job for them for preservation. And Sony still won't care about what the community does once PS6 comes out.
My first Samsung drive which is a 960 M.2 is still fine after 7 years with 20-30 TB written to it. The SSDs are just like hard drives where some thing better and cheaper will be available every 3-5 years.
Disk drive button is a big upgrade 👍
Everytime I eject a disk it’s like playing russian roulette with the power button …which button is it again?! 😂
if you are like me and didn't decide to get a ps5 until now. why not the slim? i got the spiderman 2 edition slim because it was the exact same price as the none slim. what pushed it over the edge for me was the extra internal storage. now add in the advantages, its smaller & lighter, swappable disc drive.
Great video MVG! I am only seeing videos regarding the removable and registration Disc discussion in videos about 5 months ago. Is this something that is a non issue today in May 2024? I have been watching used PS5s and originally liked the idea of an easy replacement of the disc drive so I didn't have to take it to a repair shop. However, the registration part scares me because I do collect many PS4 and PS5 games and want to preserve that. Any new comments on this topic, it appears it is a one time registration for the disc to the console. Should I look for the last version of the OG instead of picking up a slim? Thx
@7:00 the registration is required by law to supposedly help prevent piracy. Sony doesn't have a choice on the registration.
I hope that the Pro model comes with an expansion slot that you could buy and plug in to the ps5 pro to enable ps3 backwards compatibility, it would have to include some additional hardware to handle the CELL processor emulation.
Knowing Sony this will never happen.
It's a shame they didn't get rid of the liquid metal...
PS5 heatsinks have ALWAYS been on top along with the power supply (when it's laid horizontally).
Having to register the disk drive is ridiculous, I refuse to buy something with these sort of unnecessary strings attached. Interesting vid as always MVG you're the best❤
The disc drive is already registered at the factory. It's something every console does. Sony is just allowing the user to do that step in order to allow for swappable drives.
You do know that every time you stick a New Blu-Ray Movie in a Player it has a New Key. Just like all DMCA HDCP compliant device is Welcome to the Digital Future 2008..
@@j_tylor_captylor3822 no I don't know, I'm happy to admit I got no idea about this crap and it seems like it should be invisible to the end user all I know is I shouldn't have to connect to the internet to use a piece of hardware
Loving the Ace Combat background music!
Barring the BDXL drive DRM requiring online registration, I love the fact that I can replace the BDXL drive in my PS5 Slim easily if there's something wonky with it.
Also, I am kinda not surprised that PS5 Slim still use liquid metal thermal paste, as obviously you're handling what's essentially a rather powerful supercomputer on chip which demand decent cooling - regular thermal pastes won't cut the mustard here. As for the removable panels, I am seriously considering getting black ones.
i have bought my original ps5 for $480 back in my day, i came close to buying the slim digital for $399 and adding my 2 tb sdd from my old ps5 and keeping that one as backup and my slim as my main and travel go ps5… thoughts? please let me know.
Ace Combat BGM for the outro
*Chef's Kiss*
I would like to know more about the noise profile of the console.
My Launch PS5 has a rattling Nidec fan and a buzzing Power Supply.
It never ran "whisper quiet" for me when playing PS5 games. I wonder if that's different with the new model.
Or maybe it's still just bad luck.
The way he rubbed that eject button 😏@3:46
“PRO” tip for those who don’t remember which is the eject button:
Hit the OPTIONS button while hovering above any of the apps in the game line, select EJECT DISC and press X (cross).
Nothing better than an mvg upload I swear 🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🔥
The thermal image seems to show there's still too much heat radiating into the HDMI and USB ports on the back...
Or it could be the metal of those ports is reflecting ambient heat towards the camera which show up as hot spots, and if mvg isn't correcting for this and many other problems inherent to these cameras then thermal imaging is worse than useless.
If gamers nexus decide to take a look at the slim then I'd watch their analysis of the design, as they're among the best at this kind of testing, even if it means waiting a while it is still better than trying to infer meaningful info from a thermal camera that's potentially being used improperly.
You said there hasn’t been a die shrink, but I’m pretty sure there has been. 7nm -> 6nm
6:20 its FW 7.40
FW 6.00 was released a year ago with the GoD of War PS5.
Its end of 2023 my friend. No chance you will ever find a PS5 slim on 6.00. 😂
@ModernVintageGamer - will there ever be a MVG channel focused on good old PC games and good old PC hardware? Because that would be AMAZING!
I got a slim for my gaming room(fat in living room), my issue is even though heat isnt worse it isnt better. In the FGC we're having issues with ps5s getting destroyed due to the USB ports melting being ripped out.
The 2 usb c ports up front are great but no stick manufacturer uses USB c as the default.
But what if I buy a Gonzalo Slim with the Disc Drive? Am I good? Do I still need to connect one time? I am specifically an offline gamer (a one time connection now isn't bad, but what about 20 years from now?).
While Sony does actual engineering to design their cases, Apple just uses superglue nowadays.
that horizontal stand looks kinds flimsy?
6:20 it's not on version 6.00 but on version 7.40
Can you replace the original drive in the “fat” model? I thought it was also hardware locked to the main board? IF that’s accurate than effectively there is no difference between models when it comes to drive failure. Might even be the opposite of what you suggest and getting the slim model with an extra drive and registering both is really the best option for game preservation.
Oh and you can’t learn anything the temperature of a heat sink. A hotter heat sink can be because it’s more efficient at pulling heat out of the die and into itself or it could mean it’s completely saturated and not large enough. Regardless without die temp the heat sink temp is completely meaningless, just one part of an incomplete equation.
Yeah you can't swap the drive on the OG model, so I don't see why anyone would care the slim takes a 1 time registration unless the plan was to keep it in a box and never open it.
About the disc drive, the problem with the slim is that it needs an Internet connection to register the drive, this is not an issue now, but when the servers dies, then is gonna be an issue, because when you format your console, it unregister the drive, so with no server conection how are you gonna register the disc drive?, see the problem, the og so far is the best option for game preservation because the disc drive is gonna be always register to thr console no matter what, and that's how the slim should have been.
As long as you can boot into the gui hackers will be able to get these drives working someway somehow without the official servers.
@@thefool3424 pretty much
whats the point of youtube premium if theres in-video ads?! and not only that, i think it sullies any finished product. there really has to be a better way because youtube is losing out on customers with this
6:30 Firmware is actually 7.40
There's hope coz the Fl0w himself had said do Not update coz his Bd-Jb also works on 7.61
The Ace Combat music is amazing
@MVG are you sure that's not firmware 7.4 and not 6.0? I've got a PS5 with firmware 3.10 which appears on the left hand side with the area where yours says 6.0 mine has zeros.
Please add metric as well for us outside of US! Cheers! 😁