Groupe Bull KBU-1971 review (Alps SKCM Cream)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Skip to 8:24 for a typing demonstration.
Today we finally take a look at an Alps SKCM Cream keyboard, specifically the KBU-1971 by Groupe Bull, a French multinational defence company. It's not as clean as I'd hoped, but it'll have to do for the moment xD .
Intro by Kyle Carter
Outro by Facundo Cabanne
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I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and donnez-moi ton argent, donnez-moi ton fromage, je donne tu mon amour et j'allume ton chauffage." 
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Honestly loving the french trolling going on. How many takes did it take? XD
Not many, I do it a lot IRL as well xD .
@@Chyrosran22 Alors, allez ! encore ! MOAR french claviers ! :-D
@@Chyrosran22 Ah, so you're a natural born troll I see.
"COTE DE BOEUF." But seriously, I use the french layout (Actually the Belgian variant, with a few differences that don't make much sense either.) everyday, and it's miserable to type french. We can't even type all the french letters with it.
@@Hrog_Eupb_Stkwepb no, I learned it in the UK, where I had about a dozen French colleagues :p .
Omelette du fromage :D
My favorite is always the omelet du fromage key.
'Then he brought me a shoe with cheese on it and forced it down my throat'
That's aaaall you can say, that's aaaaallll you can say!
@@thesledgehammerblog man i feel sorry for some of the people that dont understand this reference. One of my favorite shows growing up.
Wow this is one of the best sounding ALPS to my ears. They are somewhat close to Salmon in terms of tone which I like.
Not surprising since they're basically clickless blues.
Always loved how you made fun of Germans, but you making fun of the French is even better...
Needs to make fun of Italians (he did it once, but i need more), Spanish and Japanese too
BoyBalastog thats what you get for beign from the netherlands or Belguim xp
@@DVRC I could do a pretty decent Italian one, as I know several Italians. They didn't make too many keyboards, unfortunately. Moreso for the Spanish xD .
I fear a Japanese one could be considered offensive xD .
@Lassi Kinnunen I could do a decent Finnish one I reckon xD . One of my friends is Finnish, and I play a lot of Noita :p .
I'm japanese and I'll forgive you if you continue the keyboard reviews. Other might not be so forgiving though. I feel like others would get offended for us before we would though. What a world.
As an American, it's great to finally see somebody else get meme'd on.
As a german, I agree.
As a fellow Freedomlander I agree 100%. The French keyboard layout is just batshit bonkers!!!
As an American software developer living in France I am often subjected to using this layout. Thank you for sharing my pain with the world.
Man, these switches are SKCM AF!
I thought the same exact thing!
AZERTY layout is completely bonkers, I'm french from Canada and we use QWERTY layout!
So, il n'y a pas une omelette du fromage keycap sur ton keyboard? :P
The Canadian layout is even weirder, it's got É where ? goes xD .
Chyrosran22 and then you have the Belgian AZERTY layout
I had to suffer with that bs for 6 years until i got a decent gmmk keycapset
_uses Canadian bilingual keyboard_
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@@Chyrosran22 dunno about other French Canadian layouts, but mine has é right to the left of right shift
GREAT! AL LEAST RUclips WORKS ON GIVING ME NOTIFICATIONS! Ready to see this video, as always. Thanks a lot.
I see the Entrée key... but which one you you press for desserts? 😂
Also, those dashes are just that. The shorter one is an en dash, and the longer one is called an em dash.
The Entrée key is to summon the main course of the meal. Easy mistake.
First time seeing alps switches, I realized I used one when I was 6 at my uncles house. My father had an old model M with the shiny coiled cable.
Now I’m a 22 year old with a keyboard hobby, god I wish I remember how they felt.
@Zane Rickert He said he was at his uncles house when he used the alps, but his FATHER owned a model m
Wow that sounds glorious... That's the sound of regret for me throwing out my childhood Alps board before I got into keyboards.
I'm in love with the color of the keycaps!!!
clean asf review as always
Underrated channel.
Yes it is. I've tried to get friends to have a look, but they think I'm crazy. (Well crazier than they already did)
As a french speaking Canadian, I can assure you his french translations are spot on. Too good man
Hahaha LOL the French names of the keys at 1:38 :D
The french layout has a lot of similarities with the old italian layout, but unlike the french the italian one luckily never came to computers, it has been used just on typewriters and up until the late 90s on apple computers. As an Italian I don't know if I have to thank someone!
Wow Marco. Everything is clear to me now. That's why I have some remembrances of when I was a kid typing on first Mac 128k of middle '80s with the numbers to be shifted. Until now, before your clear reconstruction, I thought that numbers not enabled by default was a weird thing typical of the first apple Macintoshes, but reserved to Italian versions only, though.
Me: *trying to sleep*
My brain:
~ how you gonna do it?~
YOURE GONNA PS2 IT!
(WITH THE IBM PS2!)
(WITH THE IBM PS2!)
(NOW AVAILABLE AT IBM!)
Oh shit, I had that exact same situation some night about last fall and I ended up buying a vintage IBM ThinkPad at 4 in the morning xD
@@GenophefeElisabeth we all make mistakes in the heat of passion, jimbo
@@musicboi5271 Yeah, but why did they have to make this jingle so catchy?
Are you ever going to take a look at Zealios v2? The force curves show that they are about twice as tactile as the v1's, though I can't comment on this myself as I never tried the v1's or ergo clears.
Sacre Bleau! What a wonderfuuul review :-)
hey chryro been watching your stuff for awhile now but ive never seen that tree logo at all till i found this 1996 zenith datasystems Z-note-GT its lid has that exact bull logo on it while the zenith data systems logo is on the side i pulled a keycap off the keyboard itself and it seems to have white sliders over rubber domes very odd seeing that on a laptop.
(this was typed on my 1995 AEKII white dampened alps (clicky modded) keyboard
The logo is a fusion of both Bull logo and Zenith Data Systems logo. I think this keyboard was produced after the acquisition of Zenith Electronics by the Groupe Bull.
very fantastique essai as usual.
Hon hon hon! C'est magnifique!
hoooo i had one of these at school when i was a kid
good times.
and yea in french layout for number we use a lot the numpad
this is why they are not enabled in the main area.
Even though I am French, I use a qwerty keyboard, because as you say the azerty layout is full of nonsense
Where can I get the keyboard from ur intro
can you review a GameMax Strike Mechanical RGB keyboard
its one of those pretty cheap gaming keyboards (50 euro)
and i have one so i wanna see it bullied
I LOVE IT
It's the same Bull Group that bought out Zenith, right?
Yes, correct. The same logo is present on the later Zenith keyboards.
how do you store your extra keyboard switches and keycaps?
In big divider boxes!
Big Bernard Renault energy on display
The board looks pretty gnarly. I must ask though, did you type on this one for a full week? :P Oh and do you have any grey poupon?
No, I didn't; quite a few keys don't work.
EDIT: also don't have any poupon :p .
hon hon hon
nice vid, Thomas
edit: keyboard color theme reminds me of a frog. go figure, huh?
to fix the fulty find ones with compatible switch plates out of orange or something cheap and not rare and use it to fix them
AZERTY OUAI OUAI MON CHOU. LMFAO (you Laughed My French Ass Off)
don't you feel icky touching something so yellowed?
I like the yellow keycaps but that case color is "slightly" too off-white :)
Well, the keyboard has the colour of an omelette ;)
This man is the Gordon Ramsay of keyboards
The AZERTY layout shares a lot of similarities with the old QZERTY italian layout (same M key on the right of the middle row for example)... still quite a bit more convoluted.
Tree or green mushroom cloud?
Q. If you just plug that keyboard into windows and press the W key. Do you get a W or a Z?
If a W, What do the keyboard language settings in windows actually do?
I have my keyboard language set to UK so it outputs a W.
@@Chyrosran22 So presumably the keyboard moved the scan codes around.
@@lucidmoses Not exactly. The keyboard just passes the same scancodes regardless of what layout is on the keycaps. The computer interprets which scancodes correspond to what characters in the selected language. The keyboard itself has no idea what's on it.
@@Chyrosran22 A quick google shows UK keyboards still have the Z key where that W is. So if the scan codes are for the English Z and windows is set to UK, then I wounder how is it coming up with W?
@@lucidmoses I'm not sure what you mean, but UK boards are QWERTY.
The position of the M key originates from the _earliest_ earliest QWERTY typewriter layout, before the manufacturer Remington back in 1882 decided to swap a few keys to avoid having to pay royalties to the inventors of the typewriter
Well, AZERTY is not the only weird layout.
I have an Apple AEKII with the old italian layout taken from typewriters (QZERTY)
The random French got me xD
hmm, was there any evidence of dry lube on these switches?
Yes, there was.
The french accent creeps me out lol.
Or "makes me sad", in imperial.
i love your french man say magnew feak
I totally agree - modern keyboards need more *" Omelet du fromage"* keys.
I'd be very surprised if anyone laughed at Chyrosran saying that the French num lock key was short for cheese omelette
Long ago I had a keyboard made by Bull that had the clicky mechanical switches and was very well made & heavy. Standard US layout; not French. All I can find are foreign or with mushy Alps switches.
The French; pointlessly changing things just so they are 'french' for 300 years and still going strong.
Really, your French is excellent.
If you are interested in new, more logical layouts, you may want to take a look at Neo, Bone, KOY and AdNW, of which I personally prefer Bone. The biggest advantage of these is not the layout itself, as QUERTY is also available, but the higher layers bring the most benefit. The regularly used symbols become available in the three main rows with Caps Lock and # used as mods, while with \ and AltGr as mods you get a full navblock as well as a numpad in the main field. It also gets much easier to type things like ë in Dutch, with only 3 keystrokes instead of an arbitrary unicode on the numpad.
I kinda like the _μ_ key.
Often lazily, though understandably mistyped as "u"
He should do the NeXT Non-ADB (AAE) keeb next! :)
Thats a T H I C C B O I right there
You can barely see the cheese omelette light with that amount of yellowing!
Je suis français et je regarde tes vidéos :)
Wait...there's an undampened Cream Alps switch?!
Yes, and it makes the dampened one look like crap! ;) There's even a linear Cream switch!
You should fly to Tokyo and pick up a ton of old Japanese keyboards in the used electronics stores in Akihabara. Japanese still sell a lot of 70s and 80s used computers (one store owner told me a lot of legacy factory and medical systems are still in use...why change what works).
Since Australia uses QWERTY can we get an Aussie accent next review?
"And this key is A DINGO ATE MY BABY"
Gargantuan-Posterior Insert
I smelt omelette du fromage from the moment i read the vid title..... and I am far from disappointed
1:51 was literally "chocolate bar" and "omelette with cheese"
I've always thought the French where a bit strange, and this keyboard just proves it even further. 😵
Should have taken French in school. What exactly did he say in French?? I’d love to know. xD
give me your money, give me your cheese, I give you my love and I turn on your heating.
when you are early
we say chocolatine, not pain au chocolat !
Hey, it would be cool if you could do a review on the Geek gk64. If not, thats fine, just a recommendation :)
This layout. What. And somehow there are French coders?
French coder here - i use a QWERTY layout (ISO UK).
Glad to see the French aren't safe from Thomas' ridicule, either.
5/10 not enough hon hon hon, tabarnac
Omelette *au* fromage
Nope, we all know it's actually omelette du fromage ;p ruclips.net/video/2kArCRjT29w/видео.html
I'll say it's skcm AF!
God. I'm one of your french fan, and I finally found a video of you talking about our trash azerty layout.
Who the fuck designed this garbage ? And who the hell aproved it ?
We don't know how much we suffer each day until we try a logical layout like ANSI.
I have to wonder if you could make a ghetto version of these using the regular cream leaf in another Alps switch like blacks
I didn’t FUCKING realize the layout until he pointed it and im so uncomfortable
when you are early and people say first but when u think "WaTcH tHe ViDeO fIrSt"
qwerty is really as arbitrary as azerty is
So it looks like Groupe Bull was nationalized in 1982. Probably explains why they're not a major player in the tech world anymore. They seem to be like a Hollywood star who's more famous for dating or marrying A-listers than anything else. They've had relationships with Siemens, GE, Alcatel, Muammar Gaddaffi lol ...
Lol you tricked us into thinking it was a Razer Huntsman Mini review 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How could I review something I unboxed only days ago? :p
Chyrosran22 one thing that would make a very interesting video would be a video dedicated on talking about keyboard keycaps fonts through the history of the peripheral. Never seen one about that.
Who needs a Mu on a keyboard or a § ?
The people who shitted this layout were the AFNOR, they are the French standards organization. As such, they do make a lot of legal and scientific documents, both of which make a lot of use of these 2 characters. Of course they never considered these would be useless for anyone else.
4th
iirc the AZERTY layout was optimized to type French text (with its specific typography, which is quite different from English typography) on typewriters.
It's still an very good layout for typing text. Programming, not so much. A lot of french programmers switch to US-related layouts to type code on a daily basis.
I don't think there'parents
FiRsT!!!!111!!!1!1
Premier Is more appropriate
first
Did you say "one point eighty two"???
Do you realise the 8 is tenths, and the 2 is hundredths? If anything it's "one point two hundred and eighty". But that's still wrong.
It's "one point eight two".
i'm sorry but YOU HAVE TO PRESS SHIFT TO DO A FULL STOP? thats mad, literally who presses semicolon more then period
People who write legal papers. These are the same who made this layout.
french keyboard
Just name one thing the French did well... you can't
Discovering oxygen. Popularizing Newtonian physics. Describing the "rules" of animal anatomy. Sophie Marceau. That's like four.
FAKE FRENCH KEYBOARD ALERT! The number keys in the top row are not shifted. (:
Actually no one likes AZERTY or thinks it makes any sense, including the French.
"France's 100 year-old AZERTY keyboard - the equivalent of the English-language QWERTY - is to be reconfigured after the government ruled that it encourages bad writing.
"The AZERTY set-up has infuriated generations of writers, because of labour-creating peculiarities like the need for two strokes to make full-stops and numerals.
"But official ire is directed less at such inconveniences, and more at certain quirks and oversights which, it says, make it hard to construct proper French.
"Today it is practically impossible to write French correctly using a keyboard that has been bought in France," the culture ministry intones.
"More surprisingly, certain European countries like Germany and Spain respect French writing better than the French are able to - because their keyboards permit it!"
that french accent is raunchy as hell. stop it.
You mean "don't stop."
That layout is a damn embarrassment to keyboards, WTF are you French people doing!?