In Defense of Star Fox Zero, Why Are Reviewers Scrubs?
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- This is a video I have been wanting to make for a very long time, ever since the game first released actually. Since that time, I have been playing Star Fox Zero on a fairly consistent basis and it is pretty much the only reason I still play my Wii U. Overall, in this video, I break down my thoughts on the control controversy, the game play improvements, and many other aspects of Star Fox Zero that never seemed to have been discussed. I am a huge supporter of the Star Fox series and probably engage with these games and their scoring more than the average fan.
In the three years since this game's release, it doesn't look like it has been given a second chance and has pretty much just been buried along with the Wii U. So it is my hope, slim as it may be, that this video can provide a spark of interest in some of the fan base would have really enjoyed it, if they gave it a chance. I think Star Fox Zero is a sad example of what can happen when a mainstream game actually does try to cater to the hardcore audience, rather than the casual fans.
#starfox, #starfoxzero, #platinumgames
Finally someone to champion this game and to hold it in the high esteem it deserves! I loved the Wii U, because coming from playing Starcraft 2, multitasking is something I grew to enjoy a lot. With the asymmetric gameplay the gamepad offered, we got true unique gameplay experiences, and this was definitely one of them. Along with Pikmin 3 if played with the proper control setup ;)
Oh, yeah. I loved the updated GamePad touchscreen controls for Pikmin 3.
This might make pessimistic Star Fox fans feel better, but I know Star Fox is coming back for sure. Miyamoto claimed Star Fox would continue after Zero didn’t do so well. He wanted it to be more popular. And in the same interview he said he would like Pikmin to be more popular. This interview was back in 2016.
If he says he would like to put more energy into these projects, I think it’s worth taking his word for it. And recently, he did a great job with Pikmin.
Star Fox and Pikmin have shared a similar problem: being too complicated. Pikmin 3 was panned, and Miyamoto claims most gamers play a game once and don’t return. And Pikmin takes 3 play throughs to fully grasp it.
Star Fox could benefit a lot if they took the time to teach the player like they did in Pikmin 4. Too many people don’t understand the gameplay. And despite 64 being popular, most people aren’t good at Star fox 64 either. They’re complicated games.
I think Zero is the best Star Fox, but I disagree with the video that it can work with one screen. There’s too many high scoring techniques that require both screens. I’m not at all surprised it isn’t on switch.
Also, great review. I thought about making my own video, because there’s a lot more to this game. And there’s even more than you mentioned here. But I’m glad to see someone addressing old problems from the beginning.
Star Fox should become an action game. Like Zero. At the end of the day, it’s not really a rail shooter. The gameplay is too involved, maybe too involved for its own good, but it needs to be simplified for normies.
I feel so seen watching this video! I remember loving the game in 2016 despite the negative reviews. Thanks for mentioning it in your podcast roundup!
Yes for sure!! I m a fan of the game and was frustrated by the press it got
Wow Im so glad you defended this game. It really was totally misunderstood.
Don't know what the big deal was. Sure the controls take getting used to, but once you do and it clicks, it's awesome. I like how Nintendo decided to take a chance and do something different. One of the best, if not the best use of the Wii U's gamepad .Also, maybe it's just me, but I loved the look of this game. Sadly, it was a very underappreciated game. It's the kind of game that I can go back to again and again trying to get and do everything.
Yeah me neither, it was a wierd media reaction
people complaining about a WiiU game having those controls are like people complaining that Dark Souls is hard
I know it seems dickish to say "skill issue, get good" but it's pretty much whay you're buying into. To complain is absurd.
the reviews for this game made me realise that a review is just one persons opinion, I thought this was a great game and played before having read any reviews. the only opinion that should matter is your own. People miss out on fantastic games because because they put too much value to another persons opinion.
I picked this game up after watching this review. This is my first Starfox game so I may be more receptive to it but the game is awesome imo. Thanks!
I really enjoyed this game. Took a few levels on the first run to sort of "get them" in all the different vehicles, but ultimately I enjoyed this game quite a lot--and I'm a Star Fox 64 elitist.
As we all should be ;-D I m really glad to hear that! I was just going through some of the articles again and many of them contain blatantly wrong information. Like Kotaku has this whole section explaining that the motion controls are bad because you can't reset them. The reviewer didn t know you can reset the controls by just pressing Y or left stick?! He actually missed that somehow ha. The real story of this game s reviews is that the reviewers only played the game for a few hours and couldn t figure it out. So they looked at what everyone else was saying online and then just dogpiled without further gameplay. How else could all these reviewers (except the completionist) not figure out that the basics. Anyway, I 'll probably do a vid on my thoughts on "game journalism" soon ha. Thanks for watching man! ❤
I will have to agree Star Fox, F-Zero and Metroid don’t feel like Nintendo games. They wouldn’t feel out of place on a Sega console (maybe not Metroid)
Yes they do seem too cool for nintendo ha. They do fit better with sega IPs
Railing on a rail shooter. What next? Jumping on a platformer?
Seriously though, an informative break down that was on point, especially (and sadly) regarding the future of this type of game.
Beating down a beat em up maybe ;-D Thanks for watching! Yeah it is really sad how the rail shooter genre has fallen out of fashion. I sort of see as this game s poor reception as the last chance at mainstream appeal. RIP. :,-(
@@TheElectricUnderground Well the Panzer Dragoon remake is on it's way and perhaps that will spark
some more interest.
When Star Fox Zero is on rails, it's actually really great. It's when it goes to all-range mode that the control scheme completely falls apart. Trying to look at two screens at once while spinning around IRL to shoot enemies is just too much to ask of most casual gamers ("lol git gud scrub").
@@CarlHammarstrom Rez Infinite sold decently IIRC and got pretty good reviews, too.
@@beardalaxy You can use the minus button to swap screens at any time.
Hi Mark, Star Fox Zero big fan here, we’ve talked about on an other topic.
An other denigrate game I highly love is Metroid Other M. Did you play it ?
There’s a hard mode without collecting upgrades, with its fun combat system (Team Ninja) and its dense rythme (for the in game, there are cinematics too) it could appeal to you.
I feel they should have had literally any other human being on the planet other than Team Ninja work on OtherM's plot, and it would have been a classic.
@@Blackgriffonphoenixg I think it's easier to using the cock pit view on Tv screen for most of the game when shooting everything.
Playin It that way reminds of me of Star-glider 2, the game Argonaut Software made before Starfox.
People don't lend any patience to entertainment. If they didn't enjoy it immediately, it sucks. If they don't understand the movie's plot, they won't make an effort to understand it, opting to complain about how confusing it was. If they aren't doing well with the controls, they refuse to learn how to play. There is literally nothing wrong with the controls, it's just that innovation is dismissed as the wrong way to make a game and being different isn't welcome anymore in an industry that has catered to selling the same experiences for 20 years.
Wii U gamepad gyro was excellent because it uses a compass to add to the precision. It's one thing when technology is inaccurate or the game really is designed poorly but Star Fox Zero clearly doesn't fall into this category, especially when you are a person who not only plays the game fine but loves how it feels. Is that not proof enough that it's entirely subjective? But people can't admit that their stance on the controls is an opinion. Of course they don't have to like it, I just wish that's all they said and didn't label it as an Officially Bad Game™.
Having said that, it frustrates me that I can't have a conversation about this game's design beyond the controls, because there's a lot more to pick apart. I actually think they should have focused more on rails levels, I'm not personally a huge fan of the gyrowing and the all-range mode levels. And I thought the andross fight was terrible. And I actually think the game's problems have more to do with platinum than nintendo, I really didn't like pretty much every other platinum game ive played. But I won't get into that. Also side note, star fox guard is an underrated gem.
Thank you for making this video though, it always makes me so happy to see other people who get it. Pretty much agreed with everything you said. 2nd best star fox game and it's a shame they aren't going to make anything like it again, and because of the sales Nintendo likely won't make another star fox game for a long time. There definitely won't be one on Switch and maybe not even its successor, so we gotta strap in to replay 64 and Zero for a while.
great. i loved the all range modes and the dog-fights with star wolfs where some of the best rival fights i ever played in my life, so you have some one to disagree beyond the controls lol. oh and i don't like the gyrowing either, is too slow and doesn't fit the other parts of the game.
Exactly
@@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 Starfox Zero is like a fighting game, you have to use the training mode to get better, otherwise your will get overwhelmed.
Your comment missed The point what he’s making.
1. Star fox zero is intended for a hard-core audience not casuals it’s like a fighting game you can’t just Rush through the campaign without knowing any of the Controls like I tried to Rushing though Street fighter but since I wasn’t getting the hang of the Controls I wasn’t getting it but when I decided to take my time I started to get the Controls.
2. Most of those people’s opinions missed the point it is completely OK to criticize other peoples opinions it’s like saying I like vegetables but I don’t like fruits because they’re not vegetables.
@@orangeslash1667 do you have a counter argument. To your shoots not being as accurate in third person?
Looking at the credits, most if not all Gameplay design elements seem to be done by Nintendo with Platinum's support primarily being art and some tech roles. Their involvement with the gameplay seems minimal outside of assuring performance and responsiveness, which is what I assume what they meant meant when they regarded pursuing that 'Platinum feel' when the game was delayed. That or they engage with the Nintendo staff with tweaking, but no credits suggest that.
Yeah, Star Fox Zero was Miyamotos baby first and foremost. If platinum had full creative control with the only requirement being the use of motion controls, it might have turned out differently. I feel like they would have designed the game to be compatible with motion controls and traditional controls. They would have done a better job communicating how to use the motion controls so people don't get the idea that they HAVE to use both screens.
Also a new story for good measure as it seems 3rd parties are the only ones capable of making sequel starfox games.
I had no idea that aiming shots in this game was done with gyro based on where the controller is pointed, as in Wii lightgun style games. Every single review made a huge issue of having to look down at the view on the controller screen to hit anything, and so you were constantly looking between two screens, and I can understand why that could be a problem. But I'm watching and listening to you play it, and you're just literally using to gyro itself to aim like a lightgun game, while controlling the ship with sticks and buttons like any other Starfox game. I am honestly baffled, that if it is possible to play well the way you are playing it, why on earth did not a single reviewer figure that out, and insisted that the player was forced to look between the screens constantly which distracted from smoothly playing the game. I've seen other great games get bashed and piled on for nonsense reasons before though... this makes me really want to try it for myself now.
I m thinking of doing this video again soon just to polish it up and re present it to the world, yes it s insane how poorly treated the game was by reviewers who apparently thought hand eye coordination was a crime or something, it s by far my fav Wii u game and the only reason I play the system these days
You are not forced to use two screens all the time. It’s the journalist that don’t know how to play the game. Most levels can be played with only the TV screen with a little bit of Gamepad screen in tricky or precise moments.
@@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 The problem is this that peppy is telling you to use the cockpit view for precise shooting, but he didn't mention the minus button that lets your Swap screens. It creates the illusion that players have to use both screens, when they don't.
Good thing Zero's training mode explains how the controls work.
@@orangeslash1667 The only place where you have to actually use both screens the way those game journalists said you do is an optional boss where you're locked into target mode. Considering how much of a pain that was, if it actually was that way all the time they'd definitely have an argument. Fortunately, the rest of the game is a lot more manageable.
@@devonm042690 indeed.
while i plan on doing my own video on the game i am glad to see i am not alone because yeah, when i played the game back when it was new. i thought it was fuckin awesome. i played it for a week and 100% everything. i still boot it up and play it on my wii u.
Here in 2023 and am still hoping they put out another SF game instead of trying to pump out shitty pokemon games or doing another Mario game for the millionth time. Hell everyone shits on Star Fox but if theres any Nintendo franchise that deserves it, its pokemon. Literal carbon copies of the same boring ass game over and over every single time with the only difference being new fuckin pokemon to catch and a higher game price. At least they went back to a different old series with Pikmin 4 which was awesome so hopefully they do a new SF game soon.
"I want to put more energy into Star Fox and Pikmin"
- Miyamoto after Star Fox Zero flopped.
Let's hope that he keeps his words and learned from his mistakes.
I am a huge fan of Star fox, 64, Assault and even command. (Adventures doesn’t really count but it’s ok) and I really don’t like Star fox zero. I was excited to get this one but was let down. I did several play thrus to try to see all the different levels and felt let down by each one of them.
The main issue is that each level just felt too slow in order to compensate for the two screen set up. It’s like your on the Disney jungle cruise.
It also recycles too much from 64. I know it’s a basic criticism but it’s true. Fight androsses armada and Star wolf. Adventures, assault and even command bring in new concepts for you to fight against.
Also star fox 64 has a triple shot. If you hold down the laser button on blue laser you get a three round burst and then it starts the charge.
The walker was neat tho,
Yeah but the levels are in wildly different from 64 and the others.
Star Fox Zero is my favorite Star Fox game with Star Fox Assault being a close second!
I need to play assault again, it s been forever
I had this game for a few months but I lost the disk, kept swapping it around with nintendoland. Still have the box and would love to play it again. People seemed to be out to hate this game before it was ever released.
The wii u got much hate and the narrative that Miyamoto was shoe horning the game pad into the game to justify the gamepad was all over when the first trailer came out (which was also described as ugly which baffles me).
I had someone who never played it preach to me in a forum about how stupid it was to design a control scheme where you are always moving your head between the gamepad and the controller. Sadly the whole thing probably not only taught Nintendo not to make challenging games, but never to make a star fox game. They know full well this was a great star fox game and they now know the public don't really want that.
Would add, not all motion controls are equal as I discovered swapping wii motes for the better when playing skyward sword, I personally I did need to recalibrate a lot in this game. It did irritate me.
The weird thing was Star Fox and Star Fox 64 sold well and was on the up. It was then they handed it to third parties the sales went down. I believe if they had treated it like Mario, Zelda and Mario Kart this predicament would’ve never happened.
I agree! Nintendo never seemed to know what to do with the IP post 64
@@TheElectricUnderground There's a reason for that ruclips.net/video/V0TOGqsj-9A/видео.html.
@@TheElectricUndergroundwell Miyamoto wanted the follow up to 64 to be an adventure game and it was originally being made in house until they saw rare working on something similar DP. So they wanted to try and move it away soon after 64 in house. The idea of fox running around with a gun? Always an idea they had. Even starfox 2 wasn't even an on rail shooter.
Besides at least the 3rd parties actually move the plot and expanded the universe.
I have my Wii U to my sister. Maybe I’ll hack it for her in the future to just include a bunch of emulators and games but it makes me wonder. What if I owned this game when it came out, would I have gotten into rail shooters/ shmups sooner than later? Makes me wonder because it does look fun
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Ha :-D thanks for watching!
damn, you're good at this one. I like it too but haven't gotten too far. Hurts my back. I love the gyro aim though haha. People are funny. I wanted to add gyro aim to Resident Evil Revelations on the wii u.
where you feel on star fox assault? I found it too slow, but maybe I didn't give it a proper chance. I love that N64 one so much tho. This one wasn't too far off gameplay wise imo, it's quick paced and pretty snappy where assault made me not too happy.
Thank you for making this video. It is so on point.
Agreed on Nintendo’s Pixar look, it’s off-putting
absolutely, toys toys toys
People didn't give the game a chance. Sometimes, i get so immersed that i actually feel like im in the Arwing/Grav Master.
I really like those vids with the live cam, it makes it more interactive I feel like, more lively. Quite nice. May you stay warm and keep doing great vids that interest yourself as much as us!!
Thanks man! Yeah I enjoy it as well. Just for context there is a pile of snow outside the door, about 2 feet away from me ha.
@@TheElectricUnderground Oh god, courage !
I just finished watching and that was very instructive. It's terrible how most of us rely on reviews from famous press instead of giving games a good try and missing on something potentially great... Also I'm glad you mentioned Starfox 64 3D! I remember thinking for a while it was just super short but nowadays as I watch more SF64 runs I wanna grab the old 3DS and try to make the game justice... I think it has motion controls too, I'm not sure. Thanks for the vid!
I think this game actually looks quite good, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles unfortunately.
It is! Besides the stupid chopper stages
Extremely late reply, but the game emulates incrediby well on CEMU. The slowdown is also mitigated through emulation and if you turn vsync off, the gyro controls feel a bit more responsive than even on console thanks to lower input lag.
Give it a try! Make sure to use the Arwing training stage (not the tutorial, the one in the wireframe area with the balloons) to score chase until the controls feel natural.
I love that training stage and can say the moment that feels really fun to replay, you're good!
"Star Fox 64" was a remake of the first "Star Fox" and this isn't a one-to-one remake, more a reboot. Would people have felt differently if this was a remake of the cancelled "Star Fox 2"? They may have been more accepting of the controls actually since that's not really an arcade-style game
The only reason why Zero was a reimagining (not a reboot) was because the choices kind of lead there. The gamepad gameplay was found first and then went to implement it into a starfox 64 style game because he felt like the controls would work with the 64 style. Then it's miyamoto so of course he is gonna re use Lylat wars again because simple stories.
i've not been playing since 2016, i had to pause to play a lot of shit that was in my list. but after getting to play it again, i still can't get how someone can have so much difficulty with this game and not with splatoon that got praised. i love both of them because of the precision and star fox a little more because the railshooter style mixed so well with the gyro controlls, and specially the dog-fights with star wolf are both, cinematically cool (every time a friend come here and watch me play those stages, i keep the third person view in tv because they like to watch the cool shit that happens in these frenetic fight) and very fun to play just because of the additions they made to the gameplay. what is even odd is that i'm seeing some people talking about a switch port, something that i can't consive as a good thing, since the game is entirely designed around motion controls and having a second screen for orientation. great analysis though. love to see people getting some praise for such a underrated game (69 in metacritic! what the actual fuck!)
For sure my dude! The critics are just scrubs ha
Hard disagree to be honest. I think it's one of the worst games Miyamoto ever directed and the controls or at least the game design around them are genuinely terrible. Most of the places that gave this terrible reviews would probably give (or indeed gave) incredibly high marks to Sin&Punishment 2: Star Successor for the Wii, a very similar game in the exact same genre only with much more intuitive controls. Seriously, sit down any average gamer with both games and there will probably be a night and day difference with how well they engage with them on a first playthrough.
Even just the way boosting and somersaulting and u-turning is handled in Starfox Zero is a jumbled mess of weird dual stick macros. Barrel rolling is incredibly inconsistent whether it comes out correctly or not. Let alone the disgusting dual screen nonsense and the fact that the on screen cursor is inaccurate to where your shots actually go (this particular decision should never have made it past testing).
Fun little fact is that on Wii u you can mod the motion controls to be turned off and I have tried it that way and I think it s a lot less fun. The controls are solid if you think of them as a combo of lightgun and rail shooter, this game is basically the only reason I ever play my Wii u now ha
It works for Sin and Punishment because you're only shooting at stuff directly in front of you. It's more of a gallery shooter. You can shoot at everything just fine in "Star Fox Zero" and there's only certain instances where you need to switch to first-person.
@@samueleinhorn6713 Sin and Punishment works because you're controlling kids with guns. I don't think Wii remote controls would work for a spaceship. Also you can use the minus button to swap screens at any time.
@10:55 I know someone has to have said it, but the lasers in starfox 64 fire in 3s as well. You gotta time it and shoot a rope, and it matters when the n64 chugs, you have to compensate. But yea, thats not new.
PS, in SF64, you can hold R and Z at the same time and that will stop your bombs from locking on. So you can shoot precisely for bonus points without having to time it perfectly. Just in case ya never knew. You can also hold that on the pause screen and toggle your crosshair on and off.
@29:20 have you ever played vampire night? or Ninja assault? both were lightgun games but a little more obscure. I love vampire night lol, it's so cheesy, but me and my bro played the F out of that game.
i was born in 87 and missed out on alot of the 5th and 6th generation console stuff due to being poor and just generally behind on the times. i''m just hearing about this game now through your video and i have to say it looks FREAKING AWESOME.
Do you like the Panzer Dragoon games? I think they’re awesome. Same with Rez
I actually haven't played them that much yet, I will though!
@@TheElectricUnderground If you love rail shooters like I do, then you owe it to yourself to play Panzer Dragoon, Zwei and Orta. Zwei is clearly better than the first one. Orta looks gorgeous and the main reason I got an OG Xbox back in the day.
@@LittleBigKid707b There's a another rail shooter alternative called Grind Retroenhanced.
wow i thought i was the only one who genuinely liked this game. i play a lot of splatoon so gyro aiming was already familiar for me. i think that made the learning curve of this game easier. i enjoyed the challenge of changing focus between tv view to see around me and cockpit for zoomed in precicion firing, but i imagine lotta people felt like it was taking simple controls of starfox and making it over complicated.
the part i dont like in this game actually is the gyrowing helicopter stages, they became slow and boring to replay for score/optional challenges.
also i didnt play on launch, i got the game from a bargain bin not expecting much and was positively supriced.
I've been playing this using a dualshock 4 controller (for gyro) + DS4 Windows + Cemu 2.0. But I do have a laptop connected to an external monitor, so the gamepad view (enable separate gamepad view in Cemu options) screen is on my laptop screen, and the 3rd person view on my monitor. You'll have to use SDL Controller API in Cemu input settings & enable motion controls (they won't actually preview the input like the sticks but they will work in game). You have to use DS4 mode in DS4Windows, Xinput won't let you enable motion controls in Cemu! You can also experiment with the non-experimental version of Cemu, but 2.0 runs without slowdown for me at 1080p (my monitor is intentionally 1080p and I do have a 6800H + RTX 3070 so I'm assuming mileage may vary)
I always wondered what that arcade game with the huge machine gun controller I played as a kid was called (L.A. Machineguns: Rage Of The Machine). Thanks for mentioning it.
Only issue I actually had is... barrel rolling on the analog sucks. L button + should lean to the side you are steerimg too like in star fox assault. Keep the leaning there too. Its useful for moving but addimg a leaning button.
People got into sfzero like. Its gonna be a l8ece of cake cause it will translate my years of 64... but you cant barrel roll nearly as effectove to negate the damage you WILL take as now you don't know the stages layouts and where the enemies are coming from. Also they remlved the little map. Like WTF that map was wqy too important to be removed. Now we have to guess when its time to somersault or wait till the game tells us to which is lame.
They messed up hard and gave the media club a wimpy kid to pick on. That beimg the motion controls and the screen who were doimg FINE.
Its good people are understanding journalists in general, including, and more specifically in this subject, the "GAMING JOURNOS", are FULL of BS.
Easy barrel rolls: don’t tap twice in the same direction, instead tap twice back and forth and it barrel rolls without fail. Left and right. Or right and left. Never right right, or left left.
The left bumper is for cancel locking. So you can get big combos without locking on.
People complained about having to look at both screens but the thing is can’t you just swap the screens and put what’s on the game pad onto the TV whenever you need to be looking at the game pad?
Use the minus button.
I wonder if in retrospect people will actually consider the WiiU the better console over the Switch. Probably not, but one can dream.
some people do
I mean
they're wrong, but that doesn't mean the WiiU was bad per se!
@@Blackgriffonphoenixg I mean I do think the wii u is better because The Nintendo switch has terrible storage
@@Theagentofchaos-r5qand it has a new Star Fox game so Wii u wins out by default IMO
@@kurokamina8429 also the wii u has zombi u. Which is an underrated gem. And no joy con drift.
Does that mean that this game emulates well with a gyro controller like the Steam Controller or Dualsense, or do I need to have a Wii U with gamepad?
works very well for me with Cemu and a Dualshock 4 on a Windows 10 machine.
Or any controller that has a gyro with betterjoy7.0 or newer
As someone who felt really proud buying Wii U back in 2013 on the precipice that it was probably going to be a niche console I was really into the Wii U Panaroma View and the way the camera item was used in the "Wind Waker" port. It was like practice-run material for the mechanics of "Star Fox Zero" in much the same way "Wii Sports Resort" was a 'practice-run' for "Skyward Sword".
Oh yeah that port is really nice!
@@TheElectricUnderground Thank you for using the black arwing.
My one nitpick with this game is that unless your using the retro arwing or Black arwing, it's so hard to earn gold metals in all rang mode. I feel like a have an easier time using the cockpit view when destroying everything.
Can Falco be my big brother? Please?
Polygon makes me sick!
They are truly awful
I just ran through this once thinking the motion controls were annoying. This makes me feel like I need to give it another crack.
There’s a reason this has so few views. This games controls are a complete failure. If they only work for 5% of players as it seems like they did then the game is a flop
No it was because people completely missed the Point of the game and what it was trying to do. And literally no one played the training mode
I find it really depressing. You have up too 2 likes. On your comment.
I dunno I'm a long time StarFox fan, and Zero made me rethink my hatred toward Command. At least I can use the stylus with some level of uncomfortable precision. I absolutely despised Zero's gamepad and dual screen gizmo and could never do well with it. Much like how the StarWars Sequels had me rethink my hate for the Prequels.
Yeah, I can see people not liking the game if the game pad is the deal breaker, but what I do try to convey that a lot of the criticism towards the controls being "bad" is innacurate. If you learn the gamepad style, it functions very effectively.
Force Awakens and the third one were completely mediocre, but in my opinion The Last Jedi is the only one of the 6 that holds a candle to the originals, that is actually trying to push Star Wars forward. JJ Abrams action fests are boring trash after one viewing, but the story and arc of old Luke was wonderfully executed, and all that got lost in the stupid dogpiling (as this video talks about a lot with regard to Starfox Zero) focused on purple hair or whatever annoyed right wing assholes the most, and people forgot everything great about it.... and then that resulted directly in the third one being a compromised vision that is a complete joke compared to any of the other films. If they had had the balls to finish through with where The Last Jedi was going, who knows what the third film could have been like. But everyone who bandwagoned on TLJ... are you happy with what you got for that? Another JJAbrams "crowd pleaser" that is more of a comedy than anything else as the final film?