Great video, just great! Bringing back the memories from Amithlon era, almost 20 years ago. Mr Chris, you have just made me smile while watching this and remembering those days. Those were the days "when computing was fun". I am kind of nostalgic at the moment. Btw I am the one behind kernel 4 :-), even that was, uhh 12 years ago. Great videos you did Mr Chris, just keep it up! Best regards.
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Thank you Mr Chris for bringing it up. There are lots of people knowing and using it. Many of them who never heard about it will explore this great system by watching your videos. I was watching some amiga related videos and your amithlon series popped up. I am impressed. You said it right, that fire, it should be lit for sure. Every now and then, especially around new years, i have the wish to start it up and just spend some time in the workbench. Never used it for years, for many years. When I first got in touch with mini-itx boards, and ever since each of my boards were in small factor form, it was Via Epia. I still have two of them :-) and one is brand new, never used. They come with 1Ghz or 1.3, not sure at the moment, but that's plenty for amithlon. Downside is the gfx is unsupported by the kernels and it's limited to vesa mode. I am sure i can do some coding and rebuild the kernel with 2d hardware acceleration for Via graphic chips. Cpu speed is not high but it is mini itx and it wouldn't require any additional cards, video, sound or network. All in one and all supported. I would like to see that.
@@milanca_m I have tried to reach out to Bernd several times, but hes in hiding or no longer cares. You are like our obiwan. even if you gave a small look into the kernel again, maybe , just maybe a more modern video card solution or even SATA bus could be sniffed. wow how that would open doors of newer builds, machines etc... i know nothing of kernel development. so my apollogies if i jump the gun. but to have the creator of the Kernel update. the LAST kernel update come along is a real treat. and I thank you so much. Snkbitten and I have been keeping the match flame going. hoping someone comes along again. and look who shows up. cheers!
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Of course I know Mr Snkbitten, a man who deserves a big thank you for his great contribution to the amithlon community, lots of help, guides and howtos that he did over the years. I contacted him recently as i am a bit rusty with setting things up. Unfortunately Mr Chris all that could be possibly done regarding the kernel is already done. It is limited to kernel 2.4, moved to the latest release (actually not, but regarding the hardware there is no difference) to support a bit newer hardware, sata controllers and such. It was running on p35/45 chipsets, ich controllers and so on. Still those are the motherboards ten or more years old. We can't expect it to work on the latest hardware but still it is possible to build a pretty decent machine with c2d cpu, higher the clock the better as its using only one processor, and video card as geforce 5500 (5700 maybe). We are absolutely limited, nothing more can be done. The system itself was built with absolutely amazing ideas, thanks to Bernie, but it was 20 years ago with hardware from its time. Even now, if we had the sources, they will be pretty much useless as it would require rewriting the whole thing from grounds up. It will be useful for some highly skilled people as a good starting point, to learn and to get the ideas. So we definitely need to stick to what we already have. A beautiful machine can be built from the hardware available now.
supernice video and really helpful, love it. Can't remember when I last had Amithlon up and running, must be 20 years or so.. Just installed pimiga (Based on your video) and I think I'll start my 4000 tower with 060 and Mediator this Christmas :D
This is something I never did get around to doing! I remember snagging the very last Amithlon and then just everything got in the way. Thank you for putting this video up :)
Fairly sure I have my first build mobo+cpu (Duron IIRC) from when I stopped using my Amiga 1200T (Eyetech Z4) as my daily driver in 2000/2001... would be sorta quirky to use that as an Amiga 😁 (Yes I do have a hoarding problem... 3x A1200, A600, A500+ (Dead ATM), A500 & 3xCD32 (1 with TF328) + crap loads of old PC parts & laptops) I can also install my Arexx script that was included in one of the Boing Bags... if I can remember how to Amiga...
I used an athlonXP 2800+ with a geforce 3 and sound blaster live. The 2 problems that i was unable to resolve were the E-UAE with whdload. I am certain I screwed up the configuration file. The second was the boing bag 2 that kept asking me for the original cd and/or installation and would not install! I can see that you are usind burned cd's have came across this problem?
Hello Chris. Good stuff. You know i love amithlon. Don't you think its time to explain what its posdible to do after. E-load, scummVM, dosbox, etc... perhaps os 3.2 🤔 it could be fantastic.
I'm getting to the workbench screen at first boot of XL disk but it just seems to freeze at that point, keyboard & mouse are non-responsive. However, CD drive is still usable and registers when I eject and re-insert the disk(Icon on workbench reflects this).
If there is a SPDIF or TOSLINK port on the motherboard then you can use a optical cable to take the signal from the Motherboard to the Soundbar and then you have sound.
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration I had an ASUS P2B-B Motherboard and red light was coming out of one of the jack sockets which means that it also had TOSLINK on board but I also noticed the SPDIF on the motherboard that would connect to the soundcard and actually my board was a Slot board and I had an INTEL Celeron in a Slotkit adapter and I ran Windows XP Pro which was not legit so I had to get a legit copy after that I gave it away to a woman friend I knew for her son and also it had a ATI RADEON AIO Graphics card which was brilliant but I will leave you alone till the new year and have a great Christmas.
I recently acquired a Pentium III based Compaq, just for the 19" CRT monitor that it came with so I can use it with my AA3000+. Works like a charm, but I've been wondering what to do with the Compaq, and have even contemplated getting rid of it... until watching this!
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration That will be awesome. I thought Amithlon had died years ago after Bernie Meyer who did live in Australia got into a bit of a legal battle with someone who stole his code and then he left it I thought. I did hear somewhere that someone else was working on it but it seemed to disappear from the mainstream Amiga alternatives. I always thought it would be really good if he would come back and finish it or update it. Is it under development today or is it just in the public domain? I did watch you previous review and am now looking forward to this next one you mention. Running on a PC with greaseweazle or Drawbridge would allow floppy use as they both can be used now but I guess to work Amithlon would need the drivers.
Amithlon Can use floppies but it does not sense the diskchange so a stupid reboot every eject. I was going to try Diskchange from1.3 and see if that would work. But its limited to pc0: Better than nothing i guess. But once you get usb going i rarely use a floppy
its a divoom tivoo, i have several now, you can get them from divoom.com just choose the shipping country closest to you. i chose usa, got it in 4 days!
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration isnt amithlon only for "very old" hardware? I search for a system that can be used with a more modern (not brand new) i3 or i5. Maybe like 7-8 years old. (2nd or 3rd generation core processors). a system like Pimiga only for a PC and based on linux... ;-)
@@000jimbojones000 Tom, aka snkbitten got it running on a i series pentium. i have done a Q9550 core 2quad. but im old so there is no such thing as old hardware.
Hey Chris, what version of FreeDos are you using? I have tried version 1.0, 1.2 and 1.3 I can not get any to run xfdisk. When I try to run xfdisk it can't find it or when I run fdisk it just freezes and give me a flashing cursor. Any Ideas??
@@repooh699 look in the odin dir on your cdrom. its there. I strugled also, but i used 1.3 freedos, that did not work. Now I have 1.0 just as chris has, and works fine. take time for the whole thing, dont rush. Kind regards, TravellerMusic
Sorry, replying to an old comment, but just wanted to note for someone looking at this in the future. The same thing you do with "xfdisk" in FreeDOS 1.0 can be done with standard "fdisk" in FD 1.3. Make sure to run it as "fdisk /xo", which will enable "advanced mode" and provide options to modify the partition types. Otherwise, the menu options are pretty descriptive, and it should be quite straightforward.
after 17:33 when i reboot from the AmigaOSXL cd it starts...loads to .GZ files and goes black screen ?? EDIT : ok so the black screen was because i had more then 1GB of memory installed. bumped it down to 512MB in one dimm and now i get the boing ball....but it says phase 5 emulator crash and goes into endlees reboot loop?? Playing around with the "small" file i can get the purple distorted kickstart screen but never beyond with kern310 or kern4...kern4 sata and scsi gives black screen again Anything with "amithlon/bigird.gz" just gives black screen. i can't get pass this point
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration I am trying to get it on an old EeeTop ET1602 and up to this point everything went great. Had to use FD1.3 because i use a USB CD drive but then everything with creating the "FD" and "76" partitions goes smooth. The graphics is integrated "intel GMA950". When it tries to boot it goes boing ball....then 68040 soft reset....gfx reset...and then it says phase 5 emulator crash and then it kinda tries it again in an endless loop. tried disabling everything possible in bios just to test if it was something there. I understand that when the distorted boot screen comes on this is because i haven't set the amiga partitions up for amiga and made bootable. as this is the next step in your video....but booting from the AmigaOS cd just gives a black screen like if i try loadlin @amithlon. loadlin @small gives the distorted bootscreen.
Isnt that a pentium “M” imac clone? Prob needs a compatible video card which is why it craps out. But idk if that has one , And did it ever boot to the Amithlon desktop at all? or you only got the freedos stuff done.
Could you please make the 40 Flappies public? I imagine there are some people out there who may have partials that experience a bad disc here or there. I would also like it personally because I do not have a CD ROM on my thousand
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration yes there is that but that the iso doesn't contain 40 adfs.. it's all the files already uncompressed.. I currently don't have a way to move any mass files easily from anything to it.. i have a gotek and patience =D
@@8bitwidgets understood. sure since they are giving away the cd for free now, i can archive these disks (i hope they are good) i will setup a archive.org site with them if they all work. might take me a few days to pack them up
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration i could reach out to the toaster facebook user group and maybe once you do yours if any of them came up sketchy we could find someone else that might have those disks still and compile a complete set. :)
Tried to download big files multiple times FULL ONE AND FINAL Gets to 640 645 mb and fails COMMENTED already but put file names didn't seem to appear maybe blocked
Also have you tried 86BOX or PCEM ( Emulators ) Will emulate the stuff I think BUT from my memory of amiga supported PC hardware 20 years ago ( Voodoo, S3 Graphics, SoundBlasters, Pentium 3 Era Chipsets, but not sure if network is the one BUT there is a Realtek one )
Great video, just great! Bringing back the memories from Amithlon era, almost 20 years ago. Mr Chris, you have just made me smile while watching this and remembering those days. Those were the days "when computing was fun". I am kind of nostalgic at the moment. Btw I am the one behind kernel 4 :-), even that was, uhh 12 years ago. Great videos you did Mr Chris, just keep it up! Best regards.
Maybe we can light that fire again!!! Thank you for making the kernel!!! Woohoo!
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Thank you Mr Chris for bringing it up. There are lots of people knowing and using it. Many of them who never heard about it will explore this great system by watching your videos. I was watching some amiga related videos and your amithlon series popped up. I am impressed. You said it right, that fire, it should be lit for sure. Every now and then, especially around new years, i have the wish to start it up and just spend some time in the workbench. Never used it for years, for many years. When I first got in touch with mini-itx boards, and ever since each of my boards were in small factor form, it was Via Epia. I still have two of them :-) and one is brand new, never used. They come with 1Ghz or 1.3, not sure at the moment, but that's plenty for amithlon. Downside is the gfx is unsupported by the kernels and it's limited to vesa mode. I am sure i can do some coding and rebuild the kernel with 2d hardware acceleration for Via graphic chips. Cpu speed is not high but it is mini itx and it wouldn't require any additional cards, video, sound or network. All in one and all supported. I would like to see that.
@@milanca_m I have tried to reach out to Bernd several times, but hes in hiding or no longer cares. You are like our obiwan. even if you gave a small look into the kernel again, maybe , just maybe a more modern video card solution or even SATA bus could be sniffed. wow how that would open doors of newer builds, machines etc... i know nothing of kernel development. so my apollogies if i jump the gun. but to have the creator of the Kernel update. the LAST kernel update come along is a real treat. and I thank you so much. Snkbitten and I have been keeping the match flame going. hoping someone comes along again. and look who shows up. cheers!
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Of course I know Mr Snkbitten, a man who deserves a big thank you for his great contribution to the amithlon community, lots of help, guides and howtos that he did over the years. I contacted him recently as i am a bit rusty with setting things up. Unfortunately Mr Chris all that could be possibly done regarding the kernel is already done. It is limited to kernel 2.4, moved to the latest release (actually not, but regarding the hardware there is no difference) to support a bit newer hardware, sata controllers and such. It was running on p35/45 chipsets, ich controllers and so on. Still those are the motherboards ten or more years old. We can't expect it to work on the latest hardware but still it is possible to build a pretty decent machine with c2d cpu, higher the clock the better as its using only one processor, and video card as geforce 5500 (5700 maybe). We are absolutely limited, nothing more can be done. The system itself was built with absolutely amazing ideas, thanks to Bernie, but it was 20 years ago with hardware from its time. Even now, if we had the sources, they will be pretty much useless as it would require rewriting the whole thing from grounds up. It will be useful for some highly skilled people as a good starting point, to learn and to get the ideas. So we definitely need to stick to what we already have. A beautiful machine can be built from the hardware available now.
supernice video and really helpful, love it. Can't remember when I last had Amithlon up and running, must be 20 years or so.. Just installed pimiga (Based on your video) and I think I'll start my 4000 tower with 060 and Mediator this Christmas :D
Thanks Mr Chris for saving my day. :) thanks a lot. :) great video like always . :)
This is something I never did get around to doing! I remember snagging the very last Amithlon and then just everything got in the way. Thank you for putting this video up :)
Always love seeing Amithlon builds.
Thanks to you!
Awesome work Chris! Makes me want to get out some old hardware and give it a crack!
Thats what i do all the time. Ebooger, its cheap
Fairly sure I have my first build mobo+cpu (Duron IIRC) from when I stopped using my Amiga 1200T (Eyetech Z4) as my daily driver in 2000/2001... would be sorta quirky to use that as an Amiga 😁 (Yes I do have a hoarding problem... 3x A1200, A600, A500+ (Dead ATM), A500 & 3xCD32 (1 with TF328) + crap loads of old PC parts & laptops)
I can also install my Arexx script that was included in one of the Boing Bags... if I can remember how to Amiga...
Hello Chris..great video. I will definitely give it go.
Thanks man, great stuff. I have 2 2000 odd era machines that I know still work. Will give it a go one day :)
Happy Christmas Chris
Mine is in original A4000T (the MB was dead for 20 years) and it's surely the speedest Amiga I had in all my life (pimiga is great too !)
I have an old amd athlon.. I am going to try this haha love it
Watch my how to videos to set it up
Hmmm, I’ve an old Pentium XP era dell in the corner of the lab at work. I might give that a go.
Love it Chris 🙂
Brilliant video, got me set up in no time! Any chance for a video about E-UAE and whdload?
i will do one.
I used an athlonXP 2800+ with a geforce 3 and sound blaster live. The 2 problems that i was unable to resolve were the E-UAE with whdload. I am certain I screwed up the configuration file. The second was the boing bag 2 that kept asking me for the original cd and/or installation and would not install! I can see that you are usind burned cd's have came across this problem?
Just put in the xl cd. Theres a hidden file on it that the boingbags read
Hello Chris. Good stuff. You know i love amithlon. Don't you think its time to explain what its posdible to do after. E-load, scummVM, dosbox, etc... perhaps os 3.2 🤔 it could be fantastic.
It can do all sorts of things. Maybe i do advanced amithlon videos show it all pimped up w e uae and custom chip emulation. Whdload. Scumm. Etc
I'm getting to the workbench screen at first boot of XL disk but it just seems to freeze at that point, keyboard & mouse are non-responsive. However, CD drive is still usable and registers when I eject and re-insert the disk(Icon on workbench reflects this).
ps2 mouse and keyboard?
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Yes
What motherboard is this and what video card
If there is a SPDIF or TOSLINK port on the motherboard then you can use a optical cable to take the signal from the Motherboard to the Soundbar and then you have sound.
These boards are too old and do not. Some may i will have to test that. Thank you!
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration I had an ASUS P2B-B Motherboard and red light was coming out of one of the jack sockets which means that it also had TOSLINK on board but I also noticed the SPDIF on the motherboard that would connect to the soundcard and actually my board was a Slot board and I had an INTEL Celeron in a Slotkit adapter and I ran Windows XP Pro which was not legit so I had to get a legit copy after that I gave it away to a woman friend I knew for her son and also it had a ATI RADEON AIO Graphics card which was brilliant but I will leave you alone till the new year and have a great Christmas.
Hey Chris, did as you toled, duck out some Old hardware. A old IBM thinkpad R40. Amiga laptop
I recently acquired a Pentium III based Compaq, just for the 19" CRT monitor that it came with so I can use it with my AA3000+. Works like a charm, but I've been wondering what to do with the Compaq, and have even contemplated getting rid of it... until watching this!
Works for AMD cpus, tip is called amithlon amiga+athlon
Works on intel too
4:58 - Gateway? good luck!
I just thought it ironic with the Amiga/Gateway history...
worked fine 100% compatibility.
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Yes, hoping for something like this… I have an old Gateway PC downstairs that might work; trying to resurrect it now…
Chris, What speed does Sysinfo show it running at?
Love your videos as always
Merry Christmas to you and your Family
Ill do a performance review soon and advanced amithlon with e uae , whdload and other stuff soon
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration That will be awesome.
I thought Amithlon had died years ago after Bernie Meyer who did live in Australia got into a bit of a legal battle with someone who stole his code and then he left it I thought. I did hear somewhere that someone else was working on it but it seemed to disappear from the mainstream Amiga alternatives. I always thought it would be really good if he would come back and finish it or update it.
Is it under development today or is it just in the public domain?
I did watch you previous review and am now looking forward to this next one you mention. Running on a PC with greaseweazle or Drawbridge would allow floppy use as they both can be used now but I guess to work Amithlon would need the drivers.
Amithlon Can use floppies but it does not sense the diskchange so a stupid reboot every eject. I was going to try Diskchange from1.3 and see if that would work. But its limited to pc0: Better than nothing i guess. But once you get usb going i rarely use a floppy
Hi Chris, I have a silly question, what is that tiny CRT like thing you’ve got there?
Any links to where it can be purchased?
its a divoom tivoo, i have several now, you can get them from divoom.com just choose the shipping country closest to you. i chose usa, got it in 4 days!
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Thanks for your reply and your efforts to make Amiga great again ;)
Love your work mate
I have both Amiga Forever and C64 Forever. I wanted to do something like this on my old laptop.
We need a Linux Image to install to a HDD in an old pc. Something like Amilator but with pimiga on it and installable as a "Main oS"...
why not use the amithlon jit core boot/kick and load it on the virtual hd.
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration isnt amithlon only for "very old" hardware? I search for a system that can be used with a more modern (not brand new) i3 or i5. Maybe like 7-8 years old. (2nd or 3rd generation core processors). a system like Pimiga only for a PC and based on linux... ;-)
@@000jimbojones000 Tom, aka snkbitten got it running on a i series pentium. i have done a Q9550 core 2quad. but im old so there is no such thing as old hardware.
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration ;-) okay i take a look....
Morderen computer that was a good one :D.
Hey Chris, what version of FreeDos are you using? I have tried version 1.0, 1.2 and 1.3 I can not
get any to run xfdisk. When I try to run xfdisk it can't find it or when I run fdisk it just freezes and give
me a flashing cursor. Any Ideas??
1.0. You can use newer ones i just used the original
Thanks for the quick response, I am using version 1.0 but xfdisk will not run.
@@repooh699 look in the odin dir on your cdrom. its there. I strugled also, but i used 1.3 freedos, that did not work. Now I have 1.0 just as chris has, and works fine. take time for the whole thing, dont rush. Kind regards, TravellerMusic
Sorry, replying to an old comment, but just wanted to note for someone looking at this in the future. The same thing you do with "xfdisk" in FreeDOS 1.0 can be done with standard "fdisk" in FD 1.3. Make sure to run it as "fdisk /xo", which will enable "advanced mode" and provide options to modify the partition types. Otherwise, the menu options are pretty descriptive, and it should be quite straightforward.
after 17:33 when i reboot from the AmigaOSXL cd it starts...loads to .GZ files and goes black screen ??
EDIT :
ok so the black screen was because i had more then 1GB of memory installed. bumped it down to 512MB in one dimm and now i get the boing ball....but it says phase 5 emulator crash and goes into endlees reboot loop??
Playing around with the "small" file i can get the purple distorted kickstart screen but never beyond with kern310 or kern4...kern4 sata and scsi gives black screen again
Anything with "amithlon/bigird.gz" just gives black screen.
i can't get pass this point
what system is this on, like what is your board/cpu video card etc..
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration I am trying to get it on an old EeeTop ET1602 and up to this point everything went great.
Had to use FD1.3 because i use a USB CD drive but then everything with creating the "FD" and "76" partitions goes smooth.
The graphics is integrated "intel GMA950".
When it tries to boot it goes boing ball....then 68040 soft reset....gfx reset...and then it says phase 5 emulator crash and then it kinda tries it again in an endless loop.
tried disabling everything possible in bios just to test if it was something there.
I understand that when the distorted boot screen comes on this is because i haven't set the amiga partitions up for amiga and made bootable. as this is the next step in your video....but booting from the AmigaOS cd just gives a black screen like if i try loadlin @amithlon.
loadlin @small gives the distorted bootscreen.
Isnt that a pentium “M” imac clone? Prob needs a compatible video card which is why it craps out. But idk if that has one , And did it ever boot to the Amithlon desktop at all? or you only got the freedos stuff done.
More native Amithlon Games/Demos please.
I will do a advanced video on it
you do it so fast! A little hard to follow a long LOL
Watch it again lol
Does this whole installation require CDs or can it be done using flash drives instead?
since there is no usb boot usually on these old boards the os would not see it, you will need a cd drive. remember this is 2001 tech
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration I have an athlon XP 3000+ which will usb boot which is why I asked.
So I guess 4.0/1 is PPC/PISA exclusive?
correct.
.... Good knife. ;)
Could you please make the 40 Flappies public? I imagine there are some people out there who may have partials that experience a bad disc here or there. I would also like it personally because I do not have a CD ROM on my thousand
all the floppies are in the iso that you can download from here: just make the disks the old fashon way. : www.discreetfx.com/DownloadToaster.html
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration yes there is that but that the iso doesn't contain 40 adfs.. it's all the files already uncompressed.. I currently don't have a way to move any mass files easily from anything to it.. i have a gotek and patience =D
@@8bitwidgets understood. sure since they are giving away the cd for free now, i can archive these disks (i hope they are good) i will setup a archive.org site with them if they all work. might take me a few days to pack them up
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration i could reach out to the toaster facebook user group and maybe once you do yours if any of them came up sketchy we could find someone else that might have those disks still and compile a complete set. :)
Tried to download big files multiple times
FULL ONE AND FINAL
Gets to 640 645 mb and fails
COMMENTED already but put file names didn't seem to appear maybe blocked
Also have you tried 86BOX or PCEM ( Emulators )
Will emulate the stuff I think BUT from my memory of amiga supported PC hardware 20 years ago
( Voodoo, S3 Graphics, SoundBlasters, Pentium 3 Era Chipsets, but not sure if network is the one BUT there is a Realtek one )