Should The UK Follow Germany To Legalise Cannabis?
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2024
- TalkToday debates whether the UK should legalise weed after Germany have introduced new laws on personal possession.
As of 1 April, adults are allowed to carry up to 25g of dried cannabis on them and cultivate up to three marijuana plants at home with Cannabis consumption by anyone under 18 will continuing to be illegal.
Dr David Bull says: "It has some really good properties!"
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At midnight I would rather bump into a group of lads that has been smoking weed than a group of lads that are drunk
Spot on regarding anti social behaviour mate if i was drunk in past and some1 made a comment or move i was unhappy with im more likely too open the fridge than avenues of my own self destruction contemplating revenge in a drunken rage.
does not make you less violent
If its so harmful why is Britain the biggest so say medical cannabis, no difference, in the world, we should also free up farmers to grow hemp as well, hemp is fantastic at soaking up carbon dioxide, trouble is it all controlled by big pharmaceutical companies thats why government wont legalise it, follow the money.
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this is what weed haters dont understand. alcoholics can be dangerous and a stoner isnt gonna smash you in the face
If the concern is negative reactions then surely alcohol should have been banned years ago
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Freedom to choose is better than banning anything. Education is key. It’s possible to use cannabis properly and without getting negative effects if you limit the time and frequency you use it. CBD balances it out too. Andrew Huberman’s podcast on cannabis is a must watch for anyone who wants to or already does use.
Exactly - this is 100% the argument I go by. If we are to have any consistency whatsoever in drug legislation we really need to either:
A) outright ban alcohol and tobacco which are objectively more harmful than cannabis
B) Legalise cannabis considering it's less harmful than the above
C) Stop legislation on what people can or can't put in their bodies
These are the three clear path avenues and if people don't begin to act fairly and consider what others like to do to relax alongside what they use themselves then you'll find people who are pro alcohol yet anti cannabis will eventually lose the right to drink alcohol as simply out of spite many people will push to ban alcohol to prove a point eventually and there will be heavy support from the Islamic communities as it's already against their religion to drink alcohol period.
@@mkaykaykayyI agree with this, honestly no government should be banning substances - people should instead be educated very early on surrounding substance abuse and side effects.
At the end of the day if people want to do a drug they will find a way to do it and while it's illegal it's much lower quality than a well regulated drug market. Where the argument of cost comes up from those who do abuse - that's what the taxation should cover if done correctly.
Alcohol for example in the current system costs the UK more than it makes the UK (EST. £12.6bn into the UK in 2023, while the cost for NHS + social schemes is EST £3.5bn for the NHS and £21BN for social schemes) - this isn't to say the tax isn't enough, the problem is the UK is poor at optimising spending. Considering rehab is covered within the realm of the NHS here - it's baffling to consider why over 5* the funds is going to social schemes as opposed to actual treatment for those seriously suffering as the cost for prevention and lesser rehab social clubs should be considerably less - particularly considering group settings.
So the main challenge here is mismanagement of public funds as opposed to should the drug be legal or not be legal as in any consistent world - yes it should be legal or if not both alcohol and tobacco should be illegal also. People simply want the government out of their lives as they can manage their own lives and finances much better than the government can it appears
@james970027 Precisely this!
It’s embarrassing that an adult can tell another adult you can’t smoke but, go load up on caffeine, nicotine and alcohol….
Not to mention the prescription pills and even the over the counter nasties.
And sugar.
I'm german and for the first time of my life I'm proud of it!
Have you even voted for one of these three parties in the latest federal elections?
@@untergehermuc yes I did! 💚
Im Dutch and wanna tell you this, if you are German you have all right to be proud! Look at your rich history and forget ww2 really. Germany is a great country much love from the Netherlands 😊
It's beyond embarrassing that cannabis is illegal in the UK.
damn infuriating so it is
Especially when British sugar is up there with the biggest producers on the planet
Teresa May’s husband would like it legalizing and i quote!
Philip May’s company, Capital Group, owns a significant share in GW, which is one of the biggest cultivators of cannabis in the world.
The funniest thing is the amount that’s being imported from the USA and tax being payed to the US government but completely missing our tax system 😂
@@Cal-CFC export not import!
46 tons of medicinal marijuana was exported from the UK last year. 46 fucking tons. Yet my man with the scooter doing deliveries is breaking the law? Get royally fucked.
Brilliant... pretty sure they grow it all at a fake sugar factory
😂 I have a man on a scooter too lol
Here here!
3rd largest producer lol..yet illegal.
Thank u for the cheer
Yes it should be 100% legalised without a shadow of a doubt alcohol causes a lot more problems!!!
I’m honestly baffled how alcohol is still legal ?
Look at all the deaths and crimes caused because of alcohol
Uk wont ever legalise it, theyd rather you take 50 different tablets.
Don't say that. 3 years ago i NEVER in my dreams would have believed germany would do it 😅😊. After the anouncement i still thought they wouldn't be able to pass this law 😅😊
All legal for medical use I get 30 grams a month of flower and 30mg of THC oil stopped all pain meds from NHS doctor
@SmokeDogArma yes and how hard was it to get medical license? I smoke recreationally mate, I just wanna be able to sit down and chill with a joint without being locked up🤣
Under medical supervision There is a difference
@@Lucas24379 Lets see how calm you are in a few years.
It’s actually a disgrace that the government hasn’t legalised it for personal use yet. People are losing their jobs in drug tests for this, for fuck sake!
There's the irony, we could choose to drink liquid heroin every single night (and maybe even in the daytime too) and nobody bats an eye. It is a disgrace. No reason for alcohol to be legal when given the biological science.
I got serious bother from the social services for this, despite me saying it was for my seizures and I was using a 50/50 CBD/THC plant but still got called an addict.
@@andrewbeckley728 Yeah there's a lack of education, even amongst police forces too. I think part of the problem is the strict marketing rules on scheduled medicines. It's hard to make awareness the change in the law since 2018 due to it.
Yep been unemployed for a long time, but got a job offer last year for a desk job, but failed on my induction for testing positive on a drugs test!
Absolute disgrace, as it really helps me anxiety of an evening.
Now say if I drank a bottle of vodka and beat up my family I would've been good to go!
I worked for network rail. Lost my job Because of dirty test. Boss still calls me asks if I’m “ clean “ tell him yip smoking more than ever ….
Imagine the most stiff country when it comes to drugs and general public usage of drugs legalized weed before England.....the UK economy would be bouncin' with weed legal everywhere
Youve been able to get medical cannabis in the uk for over 5 years now. Over 50,000 uk residents have a medical cannabis license
Alcohol is trash I get stoned the only thing at risk of a beating is the fridge
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Ha true dat
So true my boy 😂😂😂
I love it and you are totally right, imagine the profits cadburys would make and the rest, Haribo, Mars, take away sales lol
I wish uk a lot of success for cannabis legalization. Greetings from Germany, we've made it🎉
fuking jellous
@@Fxd_beanhehehe ha
UK only good at making people unhappy and stressed . They dont want you to be relaxed that's why the airports are full of people trying to get away from this hell
@darrencollings1042you lads are always invited 🤗
Jealous over here 2 haha
I don't even smoke weed, but seeing the amount of shops that are closed in areas, I promise this would open up alot of those closed shops we are currently seeing, which then brings other people to open different types of shops around the busy areas
Half of the people in the UK smoke weed already, the risks would have shown by now. Just get it legalised
"You cannot tell a plant not to grow" - Bob Marley.
Didn't he die of Cancer? I thought weed was a miracle
@@thatsideofyoutube4933 it's just a plant with some medicinal and recreational uses.
@@tr3vk4m just a plant?? I thought it was the second coming of Christ the way people rave about it lol
Yes you can.
@@thatsideofyoutube4933 No miracle exists, but cannabis has existed for 28 million years, no lawman is going to stop it.
I'm no user or ultra-liberal. But, legalising it will A) free up prison spots for more deserving criminals, B ) generate a lot of tax revenue, C) take away the criminal gangs' ability to profit from the drug, and D) offer pain relief for those that need it. Really seems like a no-brainer at this point. The feckless wasters that sit around getting wasted, already know where to obtain it anyway. So, society won't get any worse if it's made legal.
Yeah right, as a smoker I would still grow my own. And I will sell my excess tax free. I WILL NEVER PAY TAX ON WEED.........
@@danielturner9027 Yeah right. Do you get this animated with VAT on carrots or potatoes? So quit the indignant freedom-herb cliches. No reason weed should be exempt, unless you're a tax dodger.
Easiest way is to regulate the sale and decriminalize crop growing, that kills the illegal drug business model and allows the sale for medical reasons and also should prevent unnecessary spots being taken in prisons
Regulation will also stop any additives being put in - things that many users right now are unaware are there at the present time! It will also alert users to the dosage that they take as regulation will mean that users will be aware of the amount of active ingredients that is in each dose and they can educate themselves to which dose they are most comfortable taking.
@@danielturner9027 The German law is good in that people can grow their own cannabis. No need to pay tax if you are consuming your own plants.
The whole world should just legalize it for personal use. The only crime surrounding weed is the fact that its illegal.
I was taking CBD oil in capsule form and found it brilliant for getting rid of anxiety.
Most people smoke up anyway there's honestly zero reason why its illegal
of course there is, we would all be peaceful and protest thier illegal wars, they dont want that now do they?
They don't mind selling alcohol and cigarettes, and the government love the tax profits, and these tow alone causes more problems for the NHS, than weed does
The tax they put on cigarettes is literally also like 200% the actual cost of the product - i.e in Barcelona a pack is still €5-6 while in the UK it's close to £15-16 so considering the number of people who actually get lung cancer and who smoke this tax across smokers should more than cover treatment costs - yet they claim it doesn't similarly to alcohol which is another odd one:
Alcohol for example is estimated to cost the NHS £3.5bn per year (and it's the NHS who can also be used to freely access rehab for it), while "social schemes" get £20bn a year for alcohol related purposes, over 5* what the NHS get.
I fear the main problem we have in the UK in the area of addiction isn't the massive costs caused by addicts but more so the abdominal management of taxpayer funds - if you're spending 20bn a year in "social schemes" I'm extremely eager to see the finer details of where all these funds are going and why more isn't allocated to the NHS instead who would be assumedly better versed and skilled to educate people on substance abuse.
I’ve literally never met a single person in my entire life having to go to hospital for weed use.
Minor but how is porn free and legal but weed isn’t that’s the real question
@@jacobcumberbatch1774 Why aren't oranges apples?
@@edmundblackadder2741 Have you not? I have.
Yes they should.This law is so backdated it's embarrassing
If alcohol is legal then so should weed !
legalise it now . Should have never been illegal
Legalising weed can only lead to less gangs ruling our streets
They’ll just move to something harder, and it all begins again 🤦🏻♂️
Looking at the states in the USA that legalised weed your statement is patently untrue.
Baltimore legalised marijuana use, crime has continued to sky rocket.
In general crime remains “high”... I’ll get my coat.
YOU'LL HAVE A BIGGER GANG DEALING IT !!! GOVERNMENT!!!😏🙂
Do you feel the gangs rule our streets ?
Would love to hear your description of why
Organised crime groups and gangs will always operate in society. The issue is how we police them. Doesn't matter if cannabis is legal or not they will still do their dirty work and be a tumor on society who feed off the poor and vulnerable. Cannabis is just one of their vehicles. Criminal gangs made the most of prohibition of alcohol.....
Since the UK is one of the world's largest cannabis exporters......
Much love from Germany, you got this lads!
Been smoking it daily for fifty years. Should never have been criminalised
Same
Ditto im 66 smoked since 15 its fine ,drink killed my sister and many friends
Studies from the Netherlands show generational lowering of IQ.
Over 25 only, anything less is asking for a dumbed down country.
Feel the same way about alcohol.
This coming from someone that smoked for 20 years.
Yes I've got friends that have smoked it everyday since they were young and it's fucked then all up in one way or another. I'm not saying it's completely bad but people are too naive saying it's harmless especially the skunk that gets smoked these days
Saddo !!!
The UK is one of the largest producers of legal cannabis in the world. The government was very quick to start selling it to the countries that have legalised it but don’t have the courage to legalise it in the UK.
Theresa May's husband big chief at the company exporting most of it
Yes but we as medical patients get nothing from the uk
Isnt it hemp tho ? Non thc For creams oils etc
@@samsmith8982 no it's actually proper cannabis he's exporting it's only news about him
Yep therasa mays husband and his associates turned the British sugar factory in Norfolk England into a cannabis factory the residents were complaining about the pungent cannabis smell but couldn't do anything the place was covered in cameras and security with dogs and this is all real facts it even made the bbc news residents were saying same how can they be growing cannabis in the factory legal but the police are arresting people for possession for personal use
It's great to see this topic getting the respect it deserves. A decade ago this would have been heavily frowned upon.
100% and it already has for many thousands of medical users.
Smoking Herb is safer than Alcohol 😂
Is it? Which herb are you talking about mint, sage or rosemary?
Pretty obvious isnt it
It’s as bad as alcohol.
@zubeidaaniz6689 how so? It's never killed a single user?
@@zubeidaaniz6689your liver disagrees
Thirty five years of daily use has made me passed caring whether it's legal or not.
Incredibly based
Me too ,been growing indoor & out for 30 years
im lucky i live in the sticks so i can go in the marshes chuck a few cutting come back in high summer & boom ,some years it gets eaten some its been pollenated & some years the scousers had it ( you know its scousers cos the bins are empty & your dog is pregnant)
Keep alcohol legal and legalise cannabis and treat them the exact same way
I have a UK 🇬🇧 Medical cannabis prescription, I've never looked back 👀 I have it for my ADHD and insomnia it helps soo Much!! ❤😊
How did u apply?
@@sadboy90sbub5Cancard
@@sadboy90sbub5 curaleaf
@@sadboy90sbub5 u need to be diagnosed but u go thru cancard
How did you get it? I think this is BS
I got hurt at work on two separate occasions and ended up addicted both times to opioid based pain killers and it was cannabis that helped me off them.
That’s the very reason big pharma want it kept illegal. Number 1 they can’t patent it, it’s a plant and 2 they lose revenue of sales of their opioid based pain killers they do hold the patents for.
We are British, and everything is completely illegal. Except alcoholism of course, crack on with that.
Which kills more people than all drugs combined.
The reason alcohol is not illegal is because of the prohibition that if all the people in the country got up tomorrow and went to the government and said to them that the act called the drugs act is causing us harm which it is because it stopping us from doing smoking weed it will be called a statue at large. Another word is an act is causing more danger than Good
@@funnyman9616 Prohibition caused more harm that good,but the Drug is doing the same.
@@funnyman9616 are you able to recompile your words so they make more sense
England could increase the CBD oil from 5% to 15% that would be a start in the right direction,
My opinion absolutely not.
Yes weed should be decriminalised.. alcohol is the real danger
Alchol ruins life's causes deaths ruins relationships causes fights leads to burglary shoplifting etc always leads to class a drug use and all sorts of other fukery but they make huge profits in tax so the government don't care
I worked at a dispensary in the wealthy part of my city. Customers rolled up in Range Rovers, Mercedes, BMWs. Healthy, successful people that have smoked for years.
the most popular car on council estates are BMWs. you know most people pay a few hundred quid a month to drive a nice car and pretend they are millionaires
I know doctors and teachers that smoke it and thrive in their professions.
@@letsgotoe2toe He's talking about wealth people, not people pretending to be wealthy.
@@letsgotoe2toe The store was near the CEO of Lululemon's house here in Vancouver. It's worth $50 million dude. Rich, successful people here smoke weed. We have more education and more experience than the UK.
@@hearmenow909 Yup. UK is behind socially. They're still learning.
legalize now!
Long term weed smoker here having smoked for over 15 years. I can honestly say having quit for over 2 months I notice huge benefits to quitting weed. I can breathe a little better now, my dreams are more vivid, not coughing up brown gack well very little brown stuff in phlegm compared to when I first quit, energy levels are coming back and I am motivated to actually do stuff now. I can see why people enjoy weed but for me personally having smoked it every day for years it does catch up to you and affects the lungs quite badly. Also addiction is very much real for weed and at numerous times I had cravings, felt cold turkey and it affected my mood without having any too.
Tolerance breaks are important my brudda
Moderation in everything. If you eat cake everyday I’m sure that would have negative consequences too! Jeez
I live in Vancouver. Nobody uses the word 'skunk' to describe 'dangerous' weed. The UK invented this word and now people use it to make weed sound 'dangerous.'
Behave yourself, skunk is a strain like northern lights or purple haze, have a little guess why it’s called skunk, and it’s not because it’s “dangerous”…🤣
Haze skunk cheese kush...first are thc dominant...later are cbd dominant. Thc give the mental high...cbd body relaxation
My dad was a stoner all his life and in the 70s he would have blunts of just the herb and pass them around his friends. Then when skunk came he would put a few crumbs in his normal ciggies. Big difference in potency, its not your grandpappys weed on the streets these days.
@@canonicalgio7837 Skunk is just another word invented to make weed sound dangerous. I work in the industry in Canada. No such thing as 'skunk' as a classification. We have strains from 15% to 35% THC. People choose strength based on their tolerance. Titration - which most of the anti-cannabis people are struggling to grasp.
It’s generally because the UK variety was bread into existence by Vietnamese gangs so it’s hard for the police and news to dissociate it from crime
I've worked with drug and alcohol rehabilitation services.
Alcohol is responsible for more harm to society than all the other drugs put together.
This fact is rarely discussed.
You make it sound like a revelation.
The drug that is widely consumed by a vast proportion on a regular basis….
Shock!!!!!
@@Jafmanz Drugs are demonised by the media whilst alcohol is widely accepted dispite the damage caused, it's obviously not a "revelation". I'm mearly pointing out that our culture is lying to us about something that causes a great deal of harm to us collectively.
Most people will list this that and the other as first drug tried then reveal they tried the first drug while on Alcohol-what a time to be alive 😂😂😂
PLS LEGALIZE WORLDWIDE !!!! greetings from germany ...
Greetings from Cincinnati, OH, USA. We just got legalized with Issue 2 in December. Hopefully the UK can follow Germany's footsteps
Cannabis is the only drug that makes me feel more human and helps my autism. There's no cure for autism yet cannabis helps me so much. It's unreal. It should be legal for people like me and others who benefit from it medically.
Do you not feel it increases your anxiety levels? I smoke regularly and see many benefits but I do seem to have increased anxiety from it and possibly low levels of schizophrenia but fortunately I’m in control of it
@@Mrfeast-AD As one ex-cannabis addict put it "Paranoia, depression, panic attacks - This is how my life ended up. Most disturbingly was the way my mind began to lose touch with reality. I began to suffer from delusional ideas and would hear voices in my head." So lets all take it and feel "human"
@@user-qo8ci2ye6v No one said about "everyone taking it". If it helps people, why should they prosecute them for using it?
@user-qo8ci2ye6v if you don't have autism. Then you have no idea how it helps me. It affects people differently. And just because it does that to you doesn't mean it does that to me. I never smoked that much but sounds like you smoke way to much
@@Mrfeast-AD Everyone is effected differently
A gift from Nature that teaches people empathy and understanding, it should never have been outlawed. Let sanity prevail.
The more these people opposed legalisation the more they help the cause. The guy literally said it may reduce the illegal market by half or 2/3s, how is that not a positive thing
Half of all weed would be safe and regulated? Sign me up
I live in Japan which has very strict drug laws and a very low rate of drug use. Go figure.
they better allow us to grow atleast 1 fucking plant.
Hey if you in the uk try to find the professor green programme in the uk they were allowed to grow it as I trial so tbh mate just grow it do 5 plants they won’t even catch you they struggle to find the houses which have every room full of
Lad, get 25 on the go, they haven't got a clue, say its personal use and when distribution is involved, obviously taking your weed from up stairs to down stairs...make sure you do frequent trips with little weight so the fall won't be as bad if ye get us
@@cupra2Jock. 25 is a bit far mate chill out😂😂🤣
I would say, at least 2 to 3 plants per person, but it's only a dream. The UK will never legalise it because unfortunately if they do the aristocrats can't make money from their underground weed dens
5 here, The Netherlands
Government is fast becoming a redundant institution. Thats the conversation we need to have.
Nope, Swings and Roundabouts. Natural selection is a bitch etc, since it doesn't exist. There are many reasons.
Absolutely 100% . And once we get to that point of reasoning , we can then begin a conversation about the entire system.
I am stunned how hypocritical the UK government is about cannabis. It is simultaneously available on prescription from yr GP as medicine yet in a class of drugs that deem it has no medicinal value. What a joke. England grows and exports MMJ but refuses to let its own people use it. The UK government is a god damned embarrassment.
It's safer than alcohol
Going into deprived communities..... you'll see deprivation, weed isn't the cause, the system is.
If anything weed is the only thing keeping some people alive in this fucked up places.
well said mate
I know this is anecdotal to me, but I've suffered from depression all my life and have been on medication and couldn't keep a job down. Since I started to smoke ganja everyday (for the past 30 years) I've not only kept my job but tripled my wages (I am now a manager). We hear a lot about the side effects and they have to be taken into account, but there are people like me too.
👍 it’s amazing for depression and having tried other pharmaceutical products I can say cannabis is for me is the best antidepressant I’ve ever taken. They don’t ever give this side of cannabis any credit as they are too busy setting the narrative that cannabis has negative side effects when it comes to mental health and it’s simply not true for many people that suffer with depression.
The thing about cannabis is it’s almost instant in it’s effectiveness to relieve depression but those so called anti depressants make you feel worse ( they say to begin with but get better after a while) and the side effects are awful!
Yep, in all honesty you find a large portion of the top earners in this country are quietly drug addicts.
Cocaine for example is massive in multiple industries - I'm not saying it's healthy in all cases, but what I am saying is that it really does show there is a difference between people who handle drugs in moderation and those who don't have the same level of control and let the drugs run their life.
The answer has always been to educate people as opposed to banning items but the UK has a bad habit of choosing the easy option every time which has led to people on average in society becoming fundamentally less and less capable at doing anything.
My partner and I are similar to you - he's in the top 1% of earners and smokes on a daily basis while struggled before it.
Im the same, ive got adhd and bi polar and smoking weed kept me in work for 30 years. I recently stopped because i was made redundant and cant afford it now, My mental health is the worse its ever been without weed
Similar situation, I was going through depression for a few years but generally try to sort through things myself, it all came to a head when I was riding my motorcycle, one of the few things in life keeping me sane...got crashed into and wrecked, left with a permanent leg injury. I hit rock bottom at this point, lost all motivation in life because it had just been years of nothing but bad luck and bad things happening in life...long story short, started smoking weed, it helped with the pain, kept my mind off it and allowed me to actually move around with less issue, it helped out majorly with the negative thoughts, and it kept me relaxed whilst I spent a year rebuilding the bike, it has helped me regain my sanity so to speak.
It should be legal, I'm fed up with being told how evil weed is by people who are likely hooked on painkillers/nicotine/vaping/caffiene etc.
I'm in a much better place nowadays, all thanks to weed, the only changes I've had have been for the better.
It has helped me with my ptsd a lot and made me a nicer human being.
On prescription only
As a British citizen who has been smoking cannabis for 11 years now i believe we need to legalize it
Alcohol ruined my life and I've never been in trouble for smoking
We should've followed suit after Canada did, and the same goes for psilocybin based fungi. Cannabis stops me from having seizures and helps with my pain and chronic insomnia. Psilocybin is also known to help brain plasticity, and has been shown to help people with depression and addiction. We desperately need to grow up regarding a lot of banned substances.
Medical cannabis is already legal...
As a user this should be not promoted but surely shouldn't be jailed either.
The uk needs to sort itself out
Why do they never bring up how bad alcohol is compared to weed but we all can go grab an alcoholic beverage at almost any time a day every day of the week.
But thing with alcohol most people have alcohol few times a week when u smoke it’s multiple times a day
@@Josh-bs3ey tell that to the people that go to the pub daily! I worked in a pub and you see the same faces all day everyday, then you have the after work regulars. Then you got those people (like my brother) who needs a beer or 2 everyday to relax. So a lot more people than you think do actually drink every day but what’s worse is binge drinkers who save all their alcohol abuse for the weekend and drink in excess, which causes extreme amounts of issues
@@brumtownmiller6130 Yh but no one has alcohol at work like people would start smoking weed at smoking shelters no one can convince me they work better high
@@Josh-bs3ey lmfao what are you talking about! My college teachers used to go to the pub at lunch, I’ve literally seen people who worked next door to the pub I worked at come in for a pint on their break and I seen people in the pub I work at, go to the pub around the corner and have quick drinks on break. Also you do know there’s levels to being high! There’s 100% where you cont even move and then there slight buzz where your more calm and relaxed but still able to function as you would if you want high. When I used to smoke I would work slightly high, no one knew. All it did was make dealing with angry, rude customers more tolerable. You’re talking from a point of ignorance.
@@brumtownmiller6130 my point is and your missing it when u legalise something it’s almost promoting it and we have proof of this bc as soon as they started selling those stupid vapes they spreaded around the country kids and everyone was using them at school at work literally all day everyday. Vapes have been around ages they only started becoming that popular when they started becoming easily available. If weed become easily available in shops the same will happen and the whole country will be lazy weed smokers
Why not treat it like booze? Over 18s, taxed, licensed outlets, illegal to smoke and drive etc
Exactly
my exact point, it doesnt make sense. let people do what they want. Plus weed isnt as bad as people make it out to be, it helps people with pain, some mental illnesses etc
Well that would involve common sense witch a lot of our politicians seems to be deficient in
They haven’t figured out how to make the most tax profit from it yet because the illegal market is so massive over here so they’ll keep it illegal until they cut everyone else out the game and they can control it and ramp up the price.
Illegal to drive would be impossible because it shows up in your system long after you're sober and will show up much higher results for frequent users like medical users (I'm a medical user already, it's legal to drive if you are not impaired when you are a medical user for this very reason).
This is like having a dilemma whether or not we should legalise guns whilst bazookas are legal since forever ... alcohol vs weed debate
yes every country should follow and legalize it.)
A basic human right, free to choose, free to drink, free to smoke, free to abstain, it is about choice.
Everything in moderation. Alcohol creates more problems for society than anything else, yet it is legal! No one talks about making alcohol illegal.
If legalised, revenue could assist with the economy, nhs, etc...
It's ridiculous that we're still fighting against it. It's practically legal now, so just make it official.
Why not make it compulsory for all those who support it. With the proviso that they must just stay on cannabis and not progress onto harder drugs like heroin ?
Its not practically legal tho at all i have friends who have been charged with possession for having 1 joint even another friend who had police turn up at his house for unrelated matter and saw a joint in ashtray and he was done for it and put in court absolute joke
I can go online and get it delivered to my door by Royal Mail within 24hours. I would tell you all the website but it’s way too valuable to me.
@@marcust123yet I’ve had police at my door for bullshit and smoked my joint infront of them :) even asked if they mind and the guy said nothing we can do your in your home.
@@ShaneLee-lu8ur thats odd becauee anyone else would be searched, fined or arrested and sent to court
2018 cannabis became legal on prescription in the UK, 6 years later 95% still can't work out how easy it is to access.
Also, those council estates are full of much more alcohol, a legal drug and a DEPRESSANT.
Plus, 1 in 30 adults are alcohol DEPENDENT while a whopping 44% of adults in the UK consume alcohol EVERY SINGLE DAY; which to me sound like ALMOST HALF of the British population are alcoholics.
Now remind me, how many smoke weed every single day in legal countries; oh yeah, one in ten.
Also, alcohol being legal has wiped out the illegal market hasn’t it. Maybe if actually give weed the amount of time alcohol has had to develop brands, price brackets, product divergence and proper commerce; then you would wipe it out. Drawing conclusions from other countries where it’s only been legal a decade or two is nonsense. Plus, while not the black market hasn’t gone for weed in those countries, it has seen a significant reduction.
They should legalise it and make it a very serious offence to supply it to children.
Basically, treat it the same as alcohol sales.
@@mijimonmaster im not sure if the sale of alcohol to people below alcohol purchase age is harshly punishable, but it cant be that bad, ive never been asked for id at a corner shop
@@Scathe So why should cannabis which is far less harmful than alcohol be treated more harshly?
@@mijimonmaster where did i argue that it should be harsher, im all about legalising cannabis but i was just stating a fact about my experiences buying alcohol
i think it would be safe to assume that in the uk, if/when cannabis is legalised, it will start in pharmacies as an over the counter thing, followed by larger shops reluctantly because of the smell, as well as because larger chain supermarkets always ask for id without fail, it would be a very long time until youd see cannabis sold in a corner shop i feel like
@@Scathe Oh aye. This corrupt, greedy government will try everything to milk as much profit out of it as they can. Wouldn't surprise me that if/when it is legalised, they wont allow home grown straight away.
Cant have the peasants having to much choice and freedom now, can they
The fact people still go to prison over a plant is baffling...
They go to prison for saying norty words on Scotland now
They don't though, no one is locked up for possession, possession isn't illegal, its the supplying and trade which illegal, which even includes sharing a joint with a mate.
Guess heroine and cocaine should be legal too 😂
@jamesl5203 if people only tried to consume the plant then that would be fine, but they don't, they fuck with it
@@jamesl5203 a more correct analogy would be alcohol given that it is objectively far more dangerous and the most easy to access drug
You can get medicinal cannabis in UK on prescription and is fairly easy all thats needed is to be prescribed by your doctor for an issue you have that isn’t suitable for
I smoke weed every day. I work out every morning at 4:30 to workout for an hour then go to work Monday to Friday. Weed makes my anxiety go away to be able to push on every day. It's idiots that don't understand that call it a drug but will let you have alcohol which destroys lives daily.
Big pharmaceutical companies won't allow it.
The NHS needs it, tax it and give some of the profits to the NHS.
Yet our pharma comps are allowed to grow and export tons of it.
Who's the dealer? The lad in a flat or the gov sponsored pharma comps making millions? 🤔
Silly argument, who do you think is patenting the new strains lol.
Unless they can make profits in Canada or the US where it has helped millions come of the criminally pushed Oxycontin peddled by the Sacker family of doctors
@@random_acuity9203 the NHS gets enough money.
It's badly spent just like with everything in this country.
Britain is the second biggest producer of medical cannabis and the biggest exporter of medical cannabis.
The criminalisation of cannabis only exasperates the problems of poverty.
Think of all the tax and the decrease in public order incidents. Of course.
Portugal decriminalised over 20 years ago. They do not jail people for drugs, they give them counselling. They have the lowest re-offence rate in the world.
But they dont give a legal way to buy it
I work in a poor area, crack and spice is cheap and harmful, that’s the go to drug in poor areas, not weed. Legalise it and regulate it
I think it's more for Canadians and others. Definitely not The UK
I suffer with adhd and dyslexia and I've been on medication since I was 11 I'm 40 this year and I've been smoking cannabis since I was 15 going on 16 and it's helped me the whole time helped me sleep at night and helped with My appetite when i'm on the medication As well as slowed my brain down so I could concentrate and think
I know people who have Smoked Cannabis for Decades, They work normal jobs during the day and Relax on an evening with A Joint, They enjoy Food and Drink, Watch Movies and Roll another Joint, A Lovely way to end the Day!
How do you know it doesn't affect them in anyway shape or form or not dependant on it. Do you live in their body !? Also judging by your name smoking illegal drugs I'm sure would not be allowed in your religion !?
i find the whole dependant topic hilarious yes getting dependant on something that fixes your brain is so bad right? :')@@winbig1
Id much rather need a joint after work than a bottle of wine, alcohol is the real problem in this country
@@winbig1 It probably does affect them, but surely we now have enough evidence to say Alcohol is much worse for health and Social issues! Yes Cannabis is illegal but has been around forever, available everywhere and Millions of people using it! Cannabis can be used for Medicinal uses and has done in Asia and Middle East for Millennia, the pharmaceutical industry would hate for Cannabis to be legal because they are the ones who would suffer financially! One last thing if Alcohol was illegal and there was a debate about it, it would Never be
legalised knowing what we know about it Now!
@@winbig1 And how do you know it does affect them or they are dependent? Do YOU live in their body? I'm a medical user, I have been prescribed it for over a year and take it every single day, from morning until I go to sleep. I vape it 5 times a day, 7 days a week. It has changed my life and helped me like no medication or therapy ever did. I am able to live my life now after almost 30 years of suffering and trying to fight with medication that was not only useless, but has left me with permanent side effects that haven't left me even years after stopping the medication. Not one person who doesn't know I'm a medical user is able to tell I have vaped cannabis even immediately after I've done it. It is what lets me function as a healthy part of the society.
People are addicted to caffeine, shopping, gambling, sex, gaming. But cannabis is being singled out 😂😂😂😂. At this point you can only laugh at these experts
'experts' that have probably never smoked a joint in their life
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As an alcoholic. I’d rather a world with cannabis legal and alcohol face more regulation
Yes it should be legalised in some form. People that want to grow their own plants for their own consumption in/on their own property should definately be allowed to do so!
This whole conversation is just nonsense, there is no category of cannabis called 'skunk', there was a popular strain in the 80s and 90s called 'skunk #1' and the UK tabloids decided that this one random strain of cannabis was deadly and somehow different from 'normal cannabis'.
I actually thought about growing Skunk #11(Dutch Passion) for my first legal run... but then I settled for Purple Cookie Kush :D
The reason the UK media chose 'Skunk' is simply because the animals are smelly pests.
It's a good scary catchword.
Amen! I’ve been saying this for years when the topic arises and they always just act like they know better .
Correct. Also most uk medical weed is stronger than skunk#1
It's a god-given plant and has been used since the start of time on this planet, i always thought it was disgusting for a government to overrule god!!
Like coca leaf and poppies? Both natural, but really rather harmful actually. Bad argument I postulate.
@@ftw1540 and tobacco.
I'm a fan of cannabis but the "its just a plant, it grows naturally argument" is ridiculous.
Toxic mold also grows naturally but you wouldn't smoke it would you lol
I dont know a lot about poppies, but the traditional use of coca leaves isnt really dangerous. Can help with high altitude sickness etc. The dosage is what makes it dangerous, like a lot of other things in life. A glass of wine/ beer or a joint on the weekend? Not really dangerous. But everyday? Not so good imo.
@@ftw1540 Difference is, were smart enough to know which is good and bad, so you just making a counter argument for the sake of arguing, makes you invalid.
Like comparing alcohol to petrol - both drinkable, but we wont drink both will we?
@@ftw1540 yes like coca leaf and poppies. they can be harmful, sure, but their full harm potential only got unlocked when they got illegalised. literal criminal enterprises, rivaling governments in power, were built on this prohibition. additionally it gave way for more harmful substitutes, especially opiates like heroin and fentanyl.
I smoked it for thirty years …..never legalise it ……my life was sedated and wasted ! Choose Life
I'm sorry you had a bad personal experience with weed. A lot of people have bad relationships with alcohol too, would you be in favour of criminalising that as well? Just because something becomes legal, doesn't mean there won't be health campaigns discouraging heavy use.
@@whirlwhind666hmmm…. guess millions of people have this “personal” experience huh? i know like 7 people who’s life is in the gutter right now, i bet if i called them they’re high rn, anyways, weed is no good, keep it out, already ruining lives while it’s illegal.
@@kaper-wz3wv your argument for weed being illegal is based on fear and ignorance. the evidence suggests legalisation will make weed safer for people that do smoke it, reduce contact with criminal gangs, and collect tax to put back into anti-drug schemes or health organisations 👍
When you compare to Alcohol, it’s far far less damaging. So the question should be, why is alcohol legal?
Easy to tax, that the simple answer
Interesting fact - UK is the biggest legal exporter of cannabis in the WORLD. If you don't believe me do some research. Not only in recent times either, this has been the case for years. It has always seem very hypocritical to me of the government to not make it legal when they are the worlds biggest dealer themselves.
''The UK dominated cannabis exports, contributing 43% of all global production. It was reported by the International Narcotics Council Board that the United Kingdom produced a total of 329 tonnes of cannabis intended for medicinal or scientific purposes in 2021 alone.''
Just to add to the joke MP Victoria Atkins is married to the managing director of that company and is strongly against legalisation... For health and social reasons of course!
She assures us all that it isn't a conflict of interest so no need to worry.
preach
look into the story of a girl called Ava Twomey - she's the reason for the sudden surge in medical study over the years
Theresa May and her husband own most of it.
British Sugar Greenhouse in Southery, Norfolk is the biggest grower in the UK.
It’s illegal because there’s no money for big pharma.I’ve used all my life and I visit the doctors never and at 54 I’m a proud user
Next Ibu 600
54 and still smoking weed. Grow up mate
@@labos7250 surely you have a better idea than some subjective idea of childishness
@@labos7250 what's wrong with smoking it in your 50's
Where do they find these so called experts from?
You can't judge the effects of something you've never used. If they were in as much pain as me and millions of other people are they would do anything to help alleviate the suffering. They talk about the so called negative effects but ignore the fact that they prescribe powerful opiates for minor conditions. The private prescription shambles they set up in the UK isn't patient orientated and all they're interesting in doing is grabbing as much money as they possibly can from desperate people trying not to step outside the law.
We need patient led support for people suffering from conditions that have not responded to conventual medicine and the government needs to ensure that the current system is brought to heel so it's not just available to those that can afford the rip off prices the private clinics are charging. Legalizing it would do away with the need for private clinics monopoly and ensure everyone had access to what has become the norm in many other countries.
It also has some negative side effects if used daily and for years , much better than alcohol still
People against it just keep banging the same drum.
The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome!!!.
It being illegal HAS NOT WORKED AT ALL!. we must change our approach.
The most baffling argument against it in my eyes I've seen is "but it smells bad" - really shows the lack of understanding towards the entirety of cannabis based products out there (including their profitability) on top of neglecting to bear in mind the fact that.... What people cook smells, some people in public smell... Farmers spreading manure smells...Effectively a smell isn't an argument against doing something.
@@james970027fair enough but it still stinks
@@james970027the worse one is when they say the smell makes them feel dizzy lol
@@james970027 its a pungent headache inducing smell that contains most of the same chemicals as 2nd hand smoke, its wild to me that people are so against tobacco which is getting closer and closer to becoming illegal but will drop everything to support cannabis and its actual brain damaging effects, clearly I'm the minority and it will become legal someday... then in about 30-50 years the results will be clear as day when the youth are more brain damaged than ever and its conclusively found to be the same as if not worse than smoking tobacco.
Beer smells,cider smells,some people's perfume gives me asthma and the government stinks but I don't see those getting banned
The fact that A PLANT is ‘illegal’ is utterly ridiculous!!!! I was arrested twice as a teenager for having weed on me and guess what…those incidents are STILL on my record at 43 years old!!!!
54 years old and I still have possession of a controlled substance on my record from the 1980's.
@@DjNikGnashers Crazy world!!!
1 g in black market is around 6-10 € , and 1 g of legal bud cost 3-6€ with better quality what is he talkin about?
I can't believe how behind the UK is with all this.. if people want to use it recreationally they will regardless? So why not tax it, make money on it and get rid of dodgy dealing on the street and up the quality. And the comment about young people having it and that age range.. they can get it anyway, just off dodgy dealers and get ripped off.