Fabulous.. been watching various videos on Darks, Bias and Flat frames.. which i did for the 1st time last week.. Time consuming and then i watch Alyn give us a masterclass on how we dont need them :) After the 1st edit i was like wow, Alyn "i am just going to adjust"... Adjusts and i am wow, Alyn "i am just going to adjust" and so it went for 20 or so minutes, with me saying wow... back to Alyn "Adjust" to wow and so on.
Mind blown! That was an awesome tutorial Alyn! And as I said, perfect timing for me. Will have a go at my images again using your tutorial. Thank you again!
Great tutorial thanks a lot!! Wish I watched this before this morning when I took my nubula photos 😂 also borrowed a canon camera that I'm not used to and accidentally shot in jpeg, 6400iso, 18s shots... Way blown out in the centre. Thanks for the great tips! Next time will be better 🤞😘
thank you so much for great video -sharing your work flow. I like that you don't do bias frames, etc. I like "simple" It makes me less nervous to get out there and try shooting my first nebula. Just waiting on clear skies. In the mean time, I'm enjoying all your tutorials! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
A fantastic walkthrough! I shot horse head the other night but had major star glare. I wonder if it was the new LPF filter i was using or what. Great job mate. I really enjoy your vids.
Aboslutely beautiful - and not overdone in color as some like to do - colourful and vibrant, but not the smack-to-the-face of over-saturation you see so much in various astrophoto groups. This is what great astro is about: capturing the beautiful target in all its subtle, natural glory and then just tweaking here and there to bring out what is already there
I love rewatching these and getting info I need on a totally different target...I just shot some frames of the comet, couldn't figure out why I was getting weird circular patterns after stacking...didn't remove the distortion adjustment when I applied lens correction. (I am actually watching this again because I shot Orion last week in a Bortle 1 area, and am trying different processes!)
Straight forward but very well explained again Alyn, it's just about the same workflow as I have I really love that Gradient Exterminator, it's a very powerful tool
I used to do a lot of work with photoshop but it was so long ago, I'm sure I wouldn't remember how. But I was able to follow almost everything you did and found it very interesting.
Hey this was a great video ALyn. I just bought the Star Adventurer, and will test it this christmas if the weather allows :) Cool to see that you can get this awesome result without all the calibration shots!
Super tutorial.... well done and just on time to edit my Orion photos......Very much appreciated all your tutorials.....:-) BTW, quick tip, when you are doing your youtube stuff, wear your merchandise to show them off.... :-)
It was interesting to see your process Alyn. I just photographed M42 myself last week. I found my image to be more red than yours. Your image seems more magenta/purple. I checked reference images from Hubble and other sources to settle on my final image. Cheers.
Dude, thanks for showing your workflow! I just purchased a Star Adventurer 2i and next month on my skiing trip I will take it along for an Orion session. I have experience on a tripod doing stills, but the tracker seems so much more interesting and challenging. I am repurposing my wildlife lenses Sigma 150-600C or Sigma 70-200S with a 90D or R6. I am not sure if should try 300mm with the crop 90D or try my luck at 500-600mm with the FF R6... I think anything longer than 400mm will be very difficult for that tracker and beyond my experience as of today. Clear skies!
Alyn great advice re the flat, dark and bias frames. I think it is for the most part a lot of extra work for not much benefit. Also modern camera's negate some of the need at least.
Great video and image. Thanks foe sharing. Interesting that you don’t get better results from calibration frames although if you can’t control your cameras temperature they are a massive pain.
The calibration frames do help improve image quality for sure but I just don't see it as a big enough reward for the effort. I like to just keep things simple and spend my time outdoors in the cold capturing light frames. This is a basically a long way of me saying "I'm lazy" 🙃
I was out last week but the temperature was -19 so grabbed the lights then went home, set the camera in the garden and did the darks while I sat inside. A few flats just so that DSS would be happy. Your workflow is very nice to see, you and Nebula Photos have got all this zipped up for me, thank you. Now, why the hell can't I do it?
love your videos mate , and your such a good teacher for us astro enthausiasts !! only thing i cant get my head and wallet around is the that , only tiff files can be opend and editted Ps and Lr. Its already a big gearcost only owning a dslr and some good lenses and tripod. That an subscription of 20 Euro a month is like 5 times to much for mne. i tried a older ripped PS , man i cant get my head arouind that program..watched a tonne of tutorials , tried by doing it like 100 h myselfs and still cab't grasp the logic of it ..? Lightroom is like cake for me use it like 10 years its logic fast and good, but PS and those dredded tiff files i realy start to hate ..lol is there a method to export from stacker to RAW to skip the PS process ? alrtedy thanks for reading ... grtzz Johny Geerts
Fantastic Job. Rare to see people that actually know what they're doing with this stuff. B4 you start editing the stack with levels in photoshop, use a little adjusting of the shadows and highlights first b4 levels. (Will make it easier than photoshops quirky curve adjustments) Theres a lot hidden in the image shadows you could bring out before editing. I SUPER HIGHLY RECCOMMEND Topaz Denoise AI for space images also. That software is magical perfection when you figure it out. Also it's OK to use your 100% clarity once in a while. That's when you can start to see all of em :) Your doing a great job. Keep going.
Your subframes look so clean even before starting. I have to work with 1" exposure lights and I have all the noise problems of this UNIVERSE. I can't figure it out. Your black point is pretty straight since the beginning (assume RGB around 15 for the background). Rarely I obtained that. I play with ***** bells all the time.
Great video! And thank you for showing your process in enough detail to make it possible to translate into the viewer's own toolstack. I use Gimp+G'mic-Qt, PixInsight (and Sequator as well), and this was still very informative and inspiring for my own workflow ^^ - Clear skies, man
Awesome video! I love the output. Quick question - when I export my pictures as .tiff and then try and process them in StarStax my image turns bright magenta. Any idea why that happens?
Hi Alyn i know that this is not relevant to the video but i am just wondering if Comet Leonard is going to have a tail or if it is going to look like comet 46p which was just a green haze. thanks
Interesting to watch, don't know about simple, looked quite involved to me. I was wondering why you went through the process of removing the vignetting, only to crop the final result? Liked to have seen a side by side before and after. An amazing image though, I just need to invest in a tracker.
Nice one alyn👌, you should have posted this video a few hours earlier before i started guess editing my orion nebula then i could have coppied your workflow 😁
Beautiful shot! I’m wanting to try this soon before it disappears in the next couple of weeks. I did have a question, for an HDR image, do you take 3 different sets of shots at 2 stop intervals then blend the 3 different sets together? I would imagine that it be like taking a 3 shot bracket at 2 stop intervals except, say 20 shots per stop totaling 60 images for the Orion Nebula. Correct?
@@AlynWallace BTW, I'm loving my MSM V-mount. I don't own a wedge, but it helps a lot with polar alignment (laser only). I think I need a wedge or practice with the scope. Thanks for the contribution.
I have a basic DSLR and a tripod.. but probably besides this you wont find anymore passionate Astrophotographer than me .... o did the orion .. got a wrong shutter speed light frames .... and my stacked + edited photo was = your one light frame lol
I did just 2 nights Orion Nebula in a row and wasn't able to have pin point sharp pics over 40 Sec (600mm).In summer (#temps?!) the star Adventurer did a perfect job up to 180secs! Is there an issue in harsh winter seasons?? Anybody faces the same prob?
Ive been trying to learn how to edit my astro photos, when i do the levels stretch all the data is all the way to the left and i cant move the black slider in the slightest without clipping the image. why is this?
When you're capturing your RAWs in the field, check the histogram and make sure the data is bumped up from the left edge. Ideally you want it to be about a third of the way up the histogram. If it's not, increase your shutter speed (if you can), open your aperture (if you can) or increase your ISO. If you're camera is iso invariant the last point doesn't matter that much, but I'll talk about iso invariance more in next week's vid
Fabulous.. been watching various videos on Darks, Bias and Flat frames.. which i did for the 1st time last week.. Time consuming and then i watch Alyn give us a masterclass on how we dont need them :) After the 1st edit i was like wow, Alyn "i am just going to adjust"... Adjusts and i am wow, Alyn "i am just going to adjust" and so it went for 20 or so minutes, with me saying wow... back to Alyn "Adjust" to wow and so on.
Perfect timing as I have just captured the Orion Nebula today. Thank you, Alyn!
P.S: "and then you can go 100 on the clarity". I chuckled.
love your sense of humour..."very simple, basic, straight forward ,quick and easy".
Really like how you used the curves to make certain areas bright and dark! Nice technique Alyn!
Mind blown! That was an awesome tutorial Alyn! And as I said, perfect timing for me. Will have a go at my images again using your tutorial. Thank you again!
Glad to hear it dude! My pleasure
Alyn's favorite xD Beautiful nebula
Great tutorial thanks a lot!! Wish I watched this before this morning when I took my nubula photos 😂 also borrowed a canon camera that I'm not used to and accidentally shot in jpeg, 6400iso, 18s shots... Way blown out in the centre. Thanks for the great tips! Next time will be better 🤞😘
Wonderful thanks! Hopefully it’s in the book too...
thank you so much for great video -sharing your work flow. I like that you don't do bias frames, etc. I like "simple" It makes me less nervous to get out there and try shooting my first nebula. Just waiting on clear skies. In the mean time, I'm enjoying all your tutorials! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
A fantastic walkthrough! I shot horse head the other night but had major star glare. I wonder if it was the new LPF filter i was using or what. Great job mate. I really enjoy your vids.
What a stunning image 😮
Aboslutely beautiful - and not overdone in color as some like to do - colourful and vibrant, but not the smack-to-the-face of over-saturation you see so much in various astrophoto groups. This is what great astro is about: capturing the beautiful target in all its subtle, natural glory and then just tweaking here and there to bring out what is already there
master of photoshop for Astrophotography , great jobs, thanks very much!!
Great video Alyn, thanks for sharing your knowledge of post processing!!
I think it will be very helpful to a lot of people!
Excellent tutorial, being very new to Astro Photography I have a lot to learn. This has been a great help. Thanks.
I love rewatching these and getting info I need on a totally different target...I just shot some frames of the comet, couldn't figure out why I was getting weird circular patterns after stacking...didn't remove the distortion adjustment when I applied lens correction. (I am actually watching this again because I shot Orion last week in a Bortle 1 area, and am trying different processes!)
Wow! We met on the path in Kabak Bay in 2013, I was surprised to see it on youtube. Good luck.
This comes at a perfect moment! Just did my first DSLR session ever on one of my favorite objects,M42. Definitly need all the tips and tricks I can.
Sweet!
@@AlynWallace I am stepping into the rabbit hole now :)
Straight forward but very well explained again Alyn, it's just about the same workflow as I have
I really love that Gradient Exterminator, it's a very powerful tool
I used to do a lot of work with photoshop but it was so long ago, I'm sure I wouldn't remember how. But I was able to follow almost everything you did and found it very interesting.
I like the star effect from the sony lens.
Awesome video Alyn! 💫🌌
A nice easy to follow edit Alyn and a very pleasing image in the final result! Cheers
Hey this was a great video ALyn. I just bought the Star Adventurer, and will test it this christmas if the weather allows :)
Cool to see that you can get this awesome result without all the calibration shots!
What a great tutorial. Thanks Alyn - so generous.
Brilliant. Now to try to translate that to Capture One Pro
Thanks for the info on the GradientXTerminator. Nice tutorial.
Super tutorial.... well done and just on time to edit my Orion photos......Very much appreciated all your tutorials.....:-) BTW, quick tip, when you are doing your youtube stuff, wear your merchandise to show them off.... :-)
Great video! I’m a newbie. I have learned lots. It’s nice to know it can be done without calibration frames
Very Cool! So great to see your workflow! I can't wait to get more shots of this nebula myself! Well done Alyn!
Great video 👍👍 love the vacuum cleaner running 🏃 in the background 🤣😂🤣
That'll be a burny hot laptop CPU and fan struggling to keep temps down.
Great tutorial, Alyn!
Another banger, Alyn!!! The vid and the pic. Keep it up!
Beautiful Nebula !!😃🔭🌌🌟
lovely alyn! so beautiful! thanks and stay well🙂
It was interesting to see your process Alyn. I just photographed M42 myself last week. I found my image to be more red than yours. Your image seems more magenta/purple. I checked reference images from Hubble and other sources to settle on my final image. Cheers.
Shooooeeeeee. I have a lot to learn about processing. Thanks for the video.
Amazing final image, bravo 👏👏
Dude, thanks for showing your workflow! I just purchased a Star Adventurer 2i and next month on my skiing trip I will take it along for an Orion session. I have experience on a tripod doing stills, but the tracker seems so much more interesting and challenging. I am repurposing my wildlife lenses Sigma 150-600C or Sigma 70-200S with a 90D or R6. I am not sure if should try 300mm with the crop 90D or try my luck at 500-600mm with the FF R6... I think anything longer than 400mm will be very difficult for that tracker and beyond my experience as of today.
Clear skies!
Brilliant dude 👍 many thanks❤
Alyn great advice re the flat, dark and bias frames. I think it is for the most part a lot of extra work for not much benefit. Also modern camera's negate some of the need at least.
Excellent tutorial on image stacking and processing Alyn!
It's lovely mate, keep it up!
Great video and image. Thanks foe sharing. Interesting that you don’t get better results from calibration frames although if you can’t control your cameras temperature they are a massive pain.
The calibration frames do help improve image quality for sure but I just don't see it as a big enough reward for the effort. I like to just keep things simple and spend my time outdoors in the cold capturing light frames. This is a basically a long way of me saying "I'm lazy" 🙃
@@AlynWallace 😂 fair point.
I was out last week but the temperature was -19 so grabbed the lights then went home, set the camera in the garden and did the darks while I sat inside. A few flats just so that DSS would be happy.
Your workflow is very nice to see, you and Nebula Photos have got all this zipped up for me, thank you. Now, why the hell can't I do it?
Great result with 400mm without a guider :) Good job.
Very good 😌! Luv it!
Great video man!
love your videos mate , and your such a good teacher for us astro enthausiasts !!
only thing i cant get my head and wallet around is the that , only tiff files can be opend and editted Ps and Lr.
Its already a big gearcost only owning a dslr and some good lenses and tripod.
That an subscription of 20 Euro a month is like 5 times to much for mne.
i tried a older ripped PS , man i cant get my head arouind that program..watched a tonne of tutorials , tried by doing it like 100 h myselfs
and still cab't grasp the logic of it ..?
Lightroom is like cake for me use it like 10 years its logic fast and good, but PS and those dredded tiff files i realy start to hate ..lol
is there a method to export from stacker to RAW to skip the PS process ?
alrtedy thanks for reading ...
grtzz Johny Geerts
Fantastic Job. Rare to see people that actually know what they're doing with this stuff. B4 you start editing the stack with levels in photoshop, use a little adjusting of the shadows and highlights first b4 levels. (Will make it easier than photoshops quirky curve adjustments) Theres a lot hidden in the image shadows you could bring out before editing. I SUPER HIGHLY RECCOMMEND Topaz Denoise AI for space images also. That software is magical perfection when you figure it out. Also it's OK to use your 100% clarity once in a while. That's when you can start to see all of em :) Your doing a great job. Keep going.
Realmente hermoso!!!!
Great video I've just shared on the sequator users group page on Facebook
. Cheers Alyn keep up!
Thanks for the video, learnt a lot from it :)
How important are calibration photos when your shooting with a phone?
Your subframes look so clean even before starting. I have to work with 1" exposure lights and I have all the noise problems of this UNIVERSE.
I can't figure it out. Your black point is pretty straight since the beginning (assume RGB around 15 for the background). Rarely I obtained that. I play with ***** bells all the time.
How dark was the sky where you took these? I cannot seem to get anywhere near this in a single frame.
What light pollution class are these photos shot, I tried this in Bortle class 8/9 but got some horrible results tbh.
In bortle 8/9 the only way to go is with a light pollution filter. They offer a great result. But nothing is better then dark skies
Well I hope once my bloody star tracker finally arrives I will get good results from my bortle 8 backyard with the optolong l pro filter
Great video! And now you can go 100 on the clarity made my laugh :) hehe
care to share the sub duration, focal length, location darkness and whether you used a bahtinov mask?
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@@TelfordO saw the beginning of that video, then skipped it coz it wasn't the 100-400mm, but he did use it later on.
Thanks a lot for the reference.
Great video! And thank you for showing your process in enough detail to make it possible to translate into the viewer's own toolstack. I use Gimp+G'mic-Qt, PixInsight (and Sequator as well), and this was still very informative and inspiring for my own workflow ^^ - Clear skies, man
Awesome video! I love the output. Quick question - when I export my pictures as .tiff and then try and process them in StarStax my image turns bright magenta. Any idea why that happens?
Nice work mate, I'd highly recommend keeping the colour noise reduction off too. You will get more nebulosity colour. 👍
Hi Alyn i know that this is not relevant to the video but i am just wondering if Comet Leonard is going to have a tail or if it is going to look like comet 46p which was just a green haze. thanks
Nobody knows dude comets are impossible to predict
Interesting to watch, don't know about simple, looked quite involved to me. I was wondering why you went through the process of removing the vignetting, only to crop the final result? Liked to have seen a side by side before and after. An amazing image though, I just need to invest in a tracker.
Nice one alyn👌, you should have posted this video a few hours earlier before i started guess editing my orion nebula then i could have coppied your workflow 😁
Great work maybe next time work on removing the light pollution from an image I would love to see a tutorial by you on this subject
I'm working on a Photoshop panel which will have an action for this built in. Stay tuned 😁
Why did you export the files from lightroom to a folder to then be edited in photoshop with a colour space if Srgb?
Really good video! What is the name of the track/song you play in the end of your videos btw? I really love it
Beautiful shot! I’m wanting to try this soon before it disappears in the next couple of weeks. I did have a question, for an HDR image, do you take 3 different sets of shots at 2 stop intervals then blend the 3 different sets together? I would imagine that it be like taking a 3 shot bracket at 2 stop intervals except, say 20 shots per stop totaling 60 images for the Orion Nebula. Correct?
orion will always be cool to see
Woohoo, another AW video.
P.S. I seen that Astro Memes folder :p
Haha it's all about the memes 😁
@@AlynWallace BTW, I'm loving my MSM V-mount. I don't own a wedge, but it helps a lot with polar alignment (laser only). I think I need a wedge or practice with the scope. Thanks for the contribution.
@@paulvinova really glad to hear it!
Wich camera sir?
I have a basic DSLR and a tripod.. but probably besides this you wont find anymore passionate Astrophotographer than me .... o did the orion .. got a wrong shutter speed light frames .... and my stacked + edited photo was = your one light frame lol
Could you please post the settings for the light frames? You said 67 images at 60 seconds each at 640 ISO? And NO tracking??
The settings are visible in the top right corner under the histogram. My last video shows how I captured the images using a star adventurer 2
I did just 2 nights Orion Nebula in a row and wasn't able to have pin point sharp pics over 40 Sec (600mm).In summer (#temps?!) the star Adventurer did a perfect job up to 180secs! Is there an issue in harsh winter seasons?? Anybody faces the same prob?
The universe is yours to play with cool.
Ive been trying to learn how to edit my astro photos, when i do the levels stretch all the data is all the way to the left and i cant move the black slider in the slightest without clipping the image. why is this?
When you're capturing your RAWs in the field, check the histogram and make sure the data is bumped up from the left edge. Ideally you want it to be about a third of the way up the histogram. If it's not, increase your shutter speed (if you can), open your aperture (if you can) or increase your ISO. If you're camera is iso invariant the last point doesn't matter that much, but I'll talk about iso invariance more in next week's vid
@@AlynWallace thank you so much Alyn ❤️
Lmao he just do this for fun. Imagine if he took this seriously.
If I got an hour of Orion data with a star adventurer 2i and a 200mm kit lens with waxing gibbous moon in bortle 5 will I get something similar 😂😂😂
bitcoin rig going in the background good lord
Stop wasting your time stareing into a computer screen.Behold the universe in a dew drop
Not a fan of they way you clone-touched-up those stars.
2nd comment? idk
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why would you not watch this? very rude if you ask me
@@AlynWallace 🤣
@@AlynWallace And you annihilated the fella