I don’t blame the doctor, you cannot blame the doctor because Lori refuses to co-operate so how can they do a proper assessment? This is for Lori’s benefit, she needs to grow up and get it over with, she is delaying her own case, she knows she is guilty. Thank God she is already charged with the other 3 murders, let’s hope Charles can get his justice swiftly 🙏 justice for Charles Vallow. The police failed him, he begged them for protection, he told them how crazy she had become but no one listened, 💙
Yes, and to your point I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if she was diagnosed with an antisocial personality disorder (psychopathy, narcissism). And I could see her not wanting that made public.
I go back and forth because anytime she is talking about anything other than the murders she is 100% lucid .When she spoke to Colby she could recall events and people places ect .Being super religious doesn’t make you not competent!!! Either way there is no god waiting for Lori just the depths of hell
Agree with the judge. I can see her wanting to come back after found guilty and say it wasn't fair because she didn't know (fill in the blank) and want another trial. She definitely is manipulative, but this court must have confidence in her competency.
@@Harlem55 Imagine if a lawyer had raised the issue in the Darrell Brooks case. Had the judge not done the whole competency process, she would've then practically been forced to halt the trial the minute Brooks went crazy during the trial. People are presumed competent but if there are questions raised about competency, the court then has to hand it over to mental health professionals to diagnose what's actually going on in her brain. It doesn't mean the court believes she's incompetent, it simply means there is a question that needs to be solved properly before the time comes for the defendant to think of every possible excuse to get a second shot at a trial.
Even at normal speed, the attorney needs vocal coaching. She needs to breathe deeply into belly and allow calm, more professionally effective voice. She comes off as hysterical, in trying to be persuasive, perhaps.
Proceed with caution is always good. Let her be evaluated for competency; if she's competent we move forward and if not, she goes back into care until she is deemed competent. Thank you Peter for the breakdowns.
Lori has nothing to look forward to for the rest of her life other than this trial. She's trying to milk it for her own entertainment and to feel like she has a little bit of power by acting out.
When Lori Vallow was found incompetent to stand trial in Idaho, she was transferred from the jail to a mental hospital for 10 months of competency restoration treatment. In Arizona, inmates remain in jail while they receive competency restoration treatment. I wonder if Lori pretended to be incompetent in hopes of getting transferred out of the jail to a mental hospital again but then when she discovered that Arizona doesn't work that way, she told her attorneys "Never mind."
Not a chance I don’t think. She will never give the slightest indication she is incompetent. She wants control over her narrative and wants to tell her rubbish story, she wants to be seen as a prophet so to speak who does what Jesus tells her. She is delusional but in her mind she isn’t and everyone else is. It’s not lost on me that her lawyer filed the Rule 11 right after her new story to Colby about what happened to the children was made public. The lawyer then deemed her possibly incompetent as it was utter nonsense. After that she wants to represent herself as she knows lawyers will likely not go with her stories as they just don’t add up to evidence.
How much more time are they going to waste on, making sure she gets a fair trial? It’s a shame we can’t ask her children! Quit wasting time, and money put her in prison for the rest of her rotten life!!!!
I have that video saved and still haven’t carved out the time to listen. Maybe I will over this holiday week. Maybe I’ve been subconsciously putting it off because I know it’s gonna be rough. And by that I mean rough listening to Colby and seeing his reactions. 😢 That poor man has been through absolute hell. I can’t even comprehend how he feels.
@@susanschroeder8021 Yeah, God knows with all the cases Peter keeps track of he does an impressive analysis and I wasn't finding fault. If only Charles had gotten away safely to divorce and get custody of JJ. The Chandler PD, among others have a lot to answer for.
She knows exactly what she is doing. If she stops “believing” all this crazy, then she has to come to terms with what she did to her own children (and others). She will never admit her beliefs are false because then she will also have to admit she’s guilty.
Is she competent???? That question has been answered 1000 times, and she clarified it…and her “competency “ when she she let us know that JJ and Tylee are “ happy..and BUSY.”
It hasn't been determined by this court that there is a delusional disorder. If there is one, it should come out in the evaluation by the next interview with the doctor. Then perhaps she would be found incompetent. Personally, I think she will be found competent. LV knows what to say to present herself as competent because she IS competent, previous delusions aside.
@@tmhamer3086 Malingering is the intentional act of faking or exaggerating physical or psychological symptoms to achieve a desired outcome. A desired outcome/ whatever she says is a lie!!!!
So are saying- if she says she is competent she is lying and if she says she is incompetent she is lying? Sorry, I’m trying to understand your view point but confused. Do you believe she is competent or incompetent?
Is it just me, or was that one of the most chaotic hearings I've ever seen? And, of course Lori is competent. She's an intelligent narcissist. Manipulation takes a sound mind.
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Remember all the delays due to her incompetence during her last trial?!?!? She certainly was deemed incompetent - full stop. That was her manipulation tactic at the time!! Delay, delay, delay. Shes full of herself, for sure
Like Jodie Arias who tried to represent herself. Seriously do they honestly think they can come up against lawyers who have studied hard for years and who work daily on cases and constantly updating themselves with the law. Do they think they can do a better job than these lawyers. Another Darryl Brooks in the form of Lori Daybell. I would rather give her that surname than that of sweet handsome Charles Vallow
I wonder if the judge heard the defense lawyer turn to Lori and say, "This is crazy. I've never seen anything like this." It was during the part when judge was reading that Pete fast forwarded through.
Virtually all pro se defendants I've watched appear to have chosen to represent themselves for exactly that reason: they want a platform for their strange beliefs. 😮
IMO: The State isn’t doing its job very well if they didn’t know she was found incompetent in Idaho; it was all over the news and part of the official record of proceedings. I hope they step up their game for the trial! Justice for Charles and Brandon! 🙏
Hey Peter, this discussion around competency motions prompted me to ask this. International Day of People with Disability (IDPwD) is coming up on December 3. Could you maybe do a video about the laws and limits for people with intellectual disability, brain injuries or speech disabilities, how they’re assisted to testify or otherwise give evidence? To my understanding, just having an intellectual disability doesn’t preclude a person from standing trial, testifying or being a witness. But I’m curious how their rights vs risks are weighed up. Not that Vallow has an intellectual disability! But the same laws are applied to psychological capacity as to intellectual/cognitive, yes?
@@SerJorahBorealis I figured that he would have had clients who acquire brain injuries or other kinds of cognitive difficulties, so he might know the ins and outs of an often forgotten part of law. 😊
I think Judge just wanted defense to allow the rule 11 process play out and let the rule 11 judge rule on it. Defense didn’t like what rule 11 judge did so they ran to this judge.
Would you please explain the two Billy Wagner pre-trials? I have never seen an attorney speak that way to a judge. I do not understand the judge’s rulings. Thanks Peter! I am a long time listener. You are the best!
Even though I think it’s completely dumb that Lori wants to represent herself, I would love to watch that! Lori’s cross examination of Kay Woodcook, Both Melanie’s. Wow!! 🤯 Poor Colby I feel for him!
Most Prosecutors/Attorneys weaponize the Competency process as a delay tactic or as a defamatory/ inflammatory dog and pony show hoping to get a rise out of the defendant or cast a subconscious bias to the Judge in an effort to help either sides case. They have absolute immunity so they always get away with it and don't care about any damage mentally, reputation wise to the defendant because they like to use Competency as a Lawfare tactic against you to get the plea deal they want (especially for people already in jail it adds extra time for them to use as credit served as part of a downward departure when the state knows they have a weak case) . They only have to file a "Suggestion" as " Good faith" (which is of course extremely vague and hard to prove bad faith).
My comment is not on Vallow, but on the video you did on Kori Richard's. Her attorney used the word " Um" until I couldn't stand to hear her talk anymore!!!
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Having a delusional idea, in my understanding, does not indicate lack of competence, by default. The centrality of the thought disorder to contribute to incapacity of purpose must be determined.
Gee, maybe she told her previous attys that the kids were healthy, busy, and happy; and that Chas was a zombie? THAT would probably make them question competence, for sure. I wonder if she realized that she shouldn't share this onfo with her present atty.
UGH! I hate it when I miss your lives Peter. I like chatting real time with the gallery and being able to ask questions if I have them. Anywho, another great one. Thanks for the explanations. Some of the questions asked I knew answers to and some I didn't. I have a degree in criminal justice and I was a Corrections Officer for a number of years so I always like to try and answer the questions to myself before you get to them just to see how much I still remember 😂😂😂😂 Happy Thanksgiving if I don't get to check out a live before then!
It won’t come out in the trial. I don’t even think they will be able to say she’s a convicted person spending life in prison unless she opens the door to that fact. The conversation with Colby I think resulted in her lawyer filing rule 11 but it won’t come in to her trial
Because it's her right to defend and represent herself legally. And, they probably don/t want to do it. Who would, as an appointed attorney, with a nut bag like her?
i don't understand why they don't just let her rep herself. what is the problem? especially in this case... like what does it even matter? she's never getting out of prison no matter what happens in this case and if she wants to rep herself... why not just let her? who even cares if she's competent at this point?
I remember hearing about this case locally . Our news reported the killing of Charles as a self-defense shooting. The reporting seemed fine with the self-defense claim. As a gun owner, I would never shoot a person over an argument. I would leave. How many cases have we heard recently where self-defense is claimed and the the defendant is found guilty?
Honestly, Peter, after watching some trials and listening to you, explain legal issues that come up in trials. I don’t know why any late person would want to represent themselves. There are so many big things you have to know in order to competently be represented. I seriously doubt that anyone, who is not an actual trial attorney could safely and confidently way through the waters and get to the other side in one piece. I know I wouldn’t want to try it. Although I am well educated, with a masters degree, I would never ever dare to represent myself in any legal proceeding. No telling how much trouble I would create for myself.
she's in jail for life anyway she knows that imo i think she wants to represent herself to use it as a platform for her creepy beliefs and shes a narcissist so i think she wants to be able to spin the narrative and be able to question witnesses at her own discretion
While I agree with this, not everyone can afford representation when it comes to legal matters unfortunately. But if given the option of free counsel most people with an iota of intelligence would take it before attempting to represent themselves.
Peter, you WILL be covering this case, won't you? I have been following this case/story since watching Netflix's docuseries "Sins of our Mother". So I have seen both Lori's first trial as co-conspirator and murderer of Tami (sp?) Daybell, Tylee and JJ, as well as Chad's trial for the same crimes, and now I am glad that the other victim(s)are having justice sought on their behalf. I do feel like of course her choice to represent herself falls into the whole "He who acts as his own lawyer has a fool for a client" category...her statement at sentencing for the Idaho trial is an example of how she could well use this opportunity to get up in court and say whatever she wants put out there. Also....it's interesting to me that she's finally gone back to Vallow after quite loyally (and for awhile, according to family members) clinging to her husband and at least his last name long after he threw her under the bus at his trial. At which he was sentenced to death. I predict she seeks to marry yet again! Just a crazy, crazy story and set of circumstances. Thanks Peter for all your astute, unbiased and intelligent breakdown and coverage of these cases! You da man! lol
The judge made the right call! If this question is not answered properly by a mental health professional who has spoken with her, there will forever be this juicy ripe apple, ready to be plucked the second she gets convicted. All it takes is one very good appeal attorney to make the right arguments and the whole thing needs to start over. I don't think this judge actually believes she's incompetent, he knows very well what manipulative games she's playing, but that belief needs to be solidified by an expert, especially because she has not made many statements in court. It's not like there is an overflow of evidence from her to justify a lay human to legally opine as to her mental state. If she wants to represent herself, she needs to cooperate. Nobody is asking her to tell her life story in court, nobody needs to know the details of her crimes, but she needs to talk. If she's purposely being vague, then the doctor should be able to recognize that and then that'll mean she's competent to understand the situation enough to be vague about it. She could actually say that literally and it would help her achieve what she wants: getting to represent herself. But what we cannot have is a judge filling in the meaning of her silence without an expert basis. If she truly wants to get a speedy, pro se trial, she needs to be willing to answer the judge's questions. She will be her own lawyer. We cannot have a lawyer who does not speak, it simply does not work. If she wants to shut up, then she can have a lawyer to speak in her place. If she thinks she can do better, she actually needs to try. Better to take just a little bit more time to have a clear record than to ask an appellate court after the fact to determine what the words typed in a transcript mean. This circus needs to effectively end when the jury delivers its verdict so that the families can have some peace.
Thank you Peter. You had mentioned this judge not liking the defense. I think it stems from the last hearing and possibly before. They can be very rude to the judge. Especially the male attorney. I also don’t think the judge appreciates Lori Vallow not wanting to show up to hearings because he wouldn’t let her wear street clothes. I’m wondering though… isn’t make up considered contraband? She sure has a lot on.
Lawyers don't have fancy hairdos like they used to. I don't think this lady has been a lawyer very long. Wouldn't you know Lori would want to defend herself.? That imo would be disasterous.She has done nothing but manipulate her whole life.I guess that judge is tired of her. He's probably got no respect and i don't blame him.
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I don’t blame the doctor, you cannot blame the doctor because Lori refuses to co-operate so how can they do a proper assessment? This is for Lori’s benefit, she needs to grow up and get it over with, she is delaying her own case, she knows she is guilty. Thank God she is already charged with the other 3 murders, let’s hope Charles can get his justice swiftly 🙏 justice for Charles Vallow. The police failed him, he begged them for protection, he told them how crazy she had become but no one listened, 💙
Yikes, whats up with the lawyer? She sounds like shes about to burst into tears😬
My initial thoughts too! Her voice sounds so shakey, like she’s super nervous!
Maybe she's new and in the beginning of her career and still has stage fright🤷♂️
I guess I'd be at my wits end too with LV as a client.
I was thinking maybe she's got a cold, and stuffy nose, Lol. Sounds like that a little bit. But her voice is definitely shaking also..
I think the playback of the court video has been speed up to 1.5x speed and that makes everyone sound kinda manic or nervous.
This attorney sounds completely frantic.
I think Lori is completely competent and extremely manipulative..IMO she is a psychopath
Yes, and to your point I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if she was diagnosed with an antisocial personality disorder (psychopathy, narcissism). And I could see her not wanting that made public.
Oh she’s competent alright. She’s evil and manipulative. She know exactly what she’s doing
April - she’s crazy like a Fox.
I go back and forth because anytime she is talking about anything other than the murders she is 100% lucid .When she spoke to Colby she could recall events and people places ect .Being super religious doesn’t make you not competent!!! Either way there is no god waiting for Lori just the depths of hell
Agree with the judge. I can see her wanting to come back after found guilty and say it wasn't fair because she didn't know (fill in the blank) and want another trial. She definitely is manipulative, but this court must have confidence in her competency.
Except you cant do that as a matter of precedent - Strickland v. Washington.
@@Harlem55 Imagine if a lawyer had raised the issue in the Darrell Brooks case. Had the judge not done the whole competency process, she would've then practically been forced to halt the trial the minute Brooks went crazy during the trial. People are presumed competent but if there are questions raised about competency, the court then has to hand it over to mental health professionals to diagnose what's actually going on in her brain. It doesn't mean the court believes she's incompetent, it simply means there is a question that needs to be solved properly before the time comes for the defendant to think of every possible excuse to get a second shot at a trial.
Even at normal speed, the attorney needs vocal coaching. She needs to breathe deeply into belly and allow calm, more professionally effective voice. She comes off as hysterical, in trying to be persuasive, perhaps.
Proceed with caution is always good. Let her be evaluated for competency; if she's competent we move forward and if not, she goes back into care until she is deemed competent. Thank you Peter for the breakdowns.
I got a kick out of the judge when he said that the doctor should have been sure or not make a report. I laughed out loud the first time I heard it.
Lori has nothing to look forward to for the rest of her life other than this trial. She's trying to milk it for her own entertainment and to feel like she has a little bit of power by acting out.
When Lori Vallow was found incompetent to stand trial in Idaho, she was transferred from the jail to a mental hospital for 10 months of competency restoration treatment. In Arizona, inmates remain in jail while they receive competency restoration treatment. I wonder if Lori pretended to be incompetent in hopes of getting transferred out of the jail to a mental hospital again but then when she discovered that Arizona doesn't work that way, she told her attorneys "Never mind."
maybe!!!!
Not a chance I don’t think. She will never give the slightest indication she is incompetent. She wants control over her narrative and wants to tell her rubbish story, she wants to be seen as a prophet so to speak who does what Jesus tells her. She is delusional but in her mind she isn’t and everyone else is. It’s not lost on me that her lawyer filed the Rule 11 right after her new story to Colby about what happened to the children was made public. The lawyer then deemed her possibly incompetent as it was utter nonsense. After that she wants to represent herself as she knows lawyers will likely not go with her stories as they just don’t add up to evidence.
How much more time are they going to waste on, making sure she gets a fair trial? It’s a shame we can’t ask her children! Quit wasting time, and money put her in prison for the rest of her rotten life!!!!
Her attorney is not anxious at all. That’s just her voice. She’s combative and disrespectful and even cuts people off when they are talking.
I thought at first she was green then I heard the rest and agree with you
This female defense attorney reminds me so much of Shannon, Jennifer Crumbly's attorney. 🤯
@jennipeach2565 yes she does appear to be on that route
I listened to her talking to her son, Colby Ryan. Lori sounded absolutely nuts
I have that video saved and still haven’t carved out the time to listen. Maybe I will over this holiday week. Maybe I’ve been subconsciously putting it off because I know it’s gonna be rough. And by that I mean rough listening to Colby and seeing his reactions. 😢 That poor man has been through absolute hell. I can’t even comprehend how he feels.
Just one thing Peter, Charles Vallow was never her exhusband. He was shot before that could happen. RIP
lol maybe he is her latex husband? (Wendi Adelson joke).
I posted the same thing. Charles was never her “ex” husband. I think Peter had a little Freudian slip. 😊
@@susanschroeder8021 Yeah, God knows with all the cases Peter keeps track of he does an impressive analysis and I wasn't finding fault. If only Charles had gotten away safely to divorce and get custody of JJ. The Chandler PD, among others have a lot to answer for.
She knows exactly what she is doing. If she stops “believing” all this crazy, then she has to come to terms with what she did to her own children (and others). She will never admit her beliefs are false because then she will also have to admit she’s guilty.
Yes! 100%
Is she competent???? That question has been answered 1000 times, and she clarified it…and her “competency “ when she she let us know that JJ and Tylee are “ happy..and BUSY.”
I don’t understand why a person with a delusional disorder would be assumed to be competent.
It hasn't been determined by this court that there is a delusional disorder. If there is one, it should come out in the evaluation by the next interview with the doctor. Then perhaps she would be found incompetent. Personally, I think she will be found competent. LV knows what to say to present herself as competent because she IS competent, previous delusions aside.
Wow 😮 28K in chat!! Thank you, Peter, for your commentary. Blessings to you and your family this Thanksgiving!!
Short answer no
I’m just being dumb, I think your videos are good man. thanks for your perspective
@@ColbyJRy She is malingering. You know it, Colby.
@@MistymeQueenwhat do you mean she is malingering?? She and her current counsel are saying she is competent- so she is malingering to be competent??
@@tmhamer3086 Malingering is the intentional act of faking or exaggerating physical or psychological symptoms to achieve a desired outcome. A desired outcome/ whatever she says is a lie!!!!
So are saying- if she says she is competent she is lying and if she says she is incompetent she is lying? Sorry, I’m trying to understand your view point but confused. Do you believe she is competent or incompetent?
Is it just me, or was that one of the most chaotic hearings I've ever seen? And, of course Lori is competent. She's an intelligent narcissist. Manipulation takes a sound mind.
That's easy for u 2 say 😢
@@jonathangeddes9786 what does that mean?
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LORI Thinks she's God She needs attention this is all she wants.
Remember all the delays due to her incompetence during her last trial?!?!? She certainly was deemed incompetent - full stop. That was her manipulation tactic at the time!! Delay, delay, delay. Shes full of herself, for sure
Like Jodie Arias who tried to represent herself. Seriously do they honestly think they can come up against lawyers who have studied hard for years and who work daily on cases and constantly updating themselves with the law. Do they think they can do a better job than these lawyers. Another Darryl Brooks in the form of Lori Daybell. I would rather give her that surname than that of sweet handsome Charles Vallow
Sorry missed the live. Replay crew is awesome though. Thanks Peter
I wonder if the judge heard the defense lawyer turn to Lori and say, "This is crazy. I've never seen anything like this." It was during the part when judge was reading that Pete fast forwarded through.
This attorney seems anxious
I would certainly be nervous if I had to represent LV!
We don't need the comments about the attorneys voice, lets accept it and move on.
She has been faking it since the beginning. She knows what is right and wrong.
Gosh I hope this lawyer gets better. It's like she's gasping for breath while she's talking
I think Peter has it on 1.25x speed which maybe makes it sound worse?
Wonder how Kay and Larry will feel if Lori represents herself? Lori just wants center stage.
Virtually all pro se defendants I've watched appear to have chosen to represent themselves for exactly that reason: they want a platform for their strange beliefs. 😮
I think it gives a lot more insight if the defendent talks herself during her own trial.
IMO: The State isn’t doing its job very well if they didn’t know she was found incompetent in Idaho; it was all over the news and part of the official record of proceedings. I hope they step up their game for the trial! Justice for Charles and Brandon! 🙏
Hey Peter, this discussion around competency motions prompted me to ask this. International Day of People with Disability (IDPwD) is coming up on December 3. Could you maybe do a video about the laws and limits for people with intellectual disability, brain injuries or speech disabilities, how they’re assisted to testify or otherwise give evidence? To my understanding, just having an intellectual disability doesn’t preclude a person from standing trial, testifying or being a witness. But I’m curious how their rights vs risks are weighed up.
Not that Vallow has an intellectual disability! But the same laws are applied to psychological capacity as to intellectual/cognitive, yes?
This is an excellent idea
@@SerJorahBorealis I figured that he would have had clients who acquire brain injuries or other kinds of cognitive difficulties, so he might know the ins and outs of an often forgotten part of law. 😊
I believe Lori is stalling as much as possible. Lori wants to be in Arizona vs Idaho. Her family is there, she prefers the warm climate, etc.
I think Judge just wanted defense to allow the rule 11 process play out and let the rule 11 judge rule on it. Defense didn’t like what rule 11 judge did so they ran to this judge.
Happy thanksgiving everyone! Thanks for another great breakdown Peter!
Happy thanksgiving to you as well. Hope you enjoy your thanksgiving and can get to relax a little. 😊
Why does this female lawyer sound like she is nervous or in the verge of tears, so weird
Her voice is annoying.
Because Lori Vallow is within arm’s reach and probably has a pen or other sharp object nearby.
Fast talker on 1.5 speed
sounds exactly same on normal speed tho
@@margaretallen6351extremely
Bless you my man great coverage
That giggle alone proves she competent as it was manipulative and she thinks she is running the show.
The lawyer - “She hasn’t display irrational behavior” 🤔 You sure about that??? Have you hear her talk?
Would you please explain the two Billy Wagner pre-trials? I have never seen an attorney speak that way to a judge. I do not understand the judge’s rulings. Thanks Peter! I am a long time listener. You are the best!
Even though I think it’s completely dumb that Lori wants to represent herself, I would love to watch that! Lori’s cross examination of Kay Woodcook, Both Melanie’s. Wow!! 🤯 Poor Colby I feel for him!
Of course she is, I can't believe they are letting them play them.
Shocking how this judges asked for a report , got it, didn't read it and gets away with it.
The rule 11 judge read them and ruled. (Different from this judge)
On rewatch crew. Ty for covering it
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Let's ask Colby if she's competent. I'm quite sure he will say that she's not
It feels like this defense attorney is becoming combative as it continues on…not really at first.
Most Prosecutors/Attorneys weaponize the Competency process as a delay tactic or as a defamatory/ inflammatory dog and pony show hoping to get a rise out of the defendant or cast a subconscious bias to the Judge in an effort to help either sides case. They have absolute immunity so they always get away with it and don't care about any damage mentally, reputation wise to the defendant because they like to use Competency as a Lawfare tactic against you to get the plea deal they want (especially for people already in jail it adds extra time for them to use as credit served as part of a downward departure when the state knows they have a weak case) . They only have to file a "Suggestion" as " Good faith" (which is of course extremely vague and hard to prove bad faith).
My comment is not on Vallow, but on the video you did on Kori Richard's. Her attorney used the word " Um" until I couldn't stand to hear her talk anymore!!!
How fascinating thank you so much for all your information throughout 🌹
I’m curious how this would go if she did defend herself!
She won’t assist the competence Dr. she refuses to answer any questions.
The hot mic is going to get cameras kicked out of the courtroom.
Why does any of this even matter. She has already been sentenced to life w/o parole.
Happy Thanksgiving Peter and family ❤
Lori is probably not really competent and may never be. Her behavior speaks loudly.
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Peter got us in LYK TC class mode. I can’t go back now, listen to most things accelerated! 😁
It’s because the Dr M did not formally interview LV, he spoke to her briefly so his report wasn’t detailed. LV refused the interview.
Having a delusional idea, in my understanding, does not indicate lack of competence, by default. The centrality of the thought disorder to contribute to incapacity of purpose must be determined.
I’m always so distracted by Peter’s good looks I have to watch again to understand what was said.
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Gee, maybe she told her previous attys that the kids were healthy, busy, and happy; and that Chas was a zombie? THAT would probably make them question competence, for sure. I wonder if she realized that she shouldn't share this onfo with her present atty.
UGH! I hate it when I miss your lives Peter. I like chatting real time with the gallery and being able to ask questions if I have them. Anywho, another great one. Thanks for the explanations. Some of the questions asked I knew answers to and some I didn't. I have a degree in criminal justice and I was a Corrections Officer for a number of years so I always like to try and answer the questions to myself before you get to them just to see how much I still remember 😂😂😂😂 Happy Thanksgiving if I don't get to check out a live before then!
I wonder if her conversation with her son where she claimed that Tylee killed JJ can be used in this trial?
I'm hoping so
Doubtful. It is not relevant (legally) to the Charles and Brandon shootings.
yea it won't be able to come up in this trial
For what reason? Saying Tylee killed JJ has nothing to do with Charles being shot or how the circumstances surrounding it occurred.
It won’t come out in the trial. I don’t even think they will be able to say she’s a convicted person spending life in prison unless she opens the door to that fact. The conversation with Colby I think resulted in her lawyer filing rule 11 but it won’t come in to her trial
Why does the female defense attorney sound like she is on the verge of crying? It's very distracting and honestly it is irritating.😊
Cool shirt, Atty. Tragos!
PETER your definition of competent in this video makes me feel incompetent lol
Why are her lawyers fighting so hard for Lourie to defend herself?
Because it's her right to defend and represent herself legally. And, they probably don/t want to do it. Who would, as an appointed attorney, with a nut bag like her?
Because Lori wants to represent herself; it’s there job to fight for what she desires.
Let her defend herself and let Sara Boone be her co counsal. It would make for a interesting trial!
And let letecia stauch be her competency psychologist 💁🏼♀️😂
And toss in Laurie Shaver as character witness.
The anti justice league.
Add in good old Darrell B. Just for good measure
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@@elfevilkitty and Chris watts’ crazy mother as a character witness 💁🏼♀️😂
i don't understand why they don't just let her rep herself. what is the problem? especially in this case... like what does it even matter? she's never getting out of prison no matter what happens in this case and if she wants to rep herself... why not just let her? who even cares if she's competent at this point?
As an asthmatic, her breathing patterns are stressful.
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This defense attorney has one voice setting…shrill panic…her anxiety and hope to get rid of LVD as a client is palpable. Breathing is underrated.
Why does she want to represent herself?
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I remember hearing about this case locally . Our news reported the killing of Charles as a self-defense shooting. The reporting seemed fine with the self-defense claim. As a gun owner, I would never shoot a person over an argument. I would leave. How many cases have we heard recently where self-defense is claimed and the the defendant is found guilty?
The thought of her representing herself is horrifying. On brand for her, though.
I think it sounds … intriguing.
Honestly, Peter, after watching some trials and listening to you, explain legal issues that come up in trials. I don’t know why any late person would want to represent themselves. There are so many big things you have to know in order to competently be represented. I seriously doubt that anyone, who is not an actual trial attorney could safely and confidently way through the waters and get to the other side in one piece. I know I wouldn’t want to try it. Although I am well educated, with a masters degree, I would never ever dare to represent myself in any legal proceeding. No telling how much trouble I would create for myself.
she's in jail for life anyway she knows that imo i think she wants to represent herself to use it as a platform for her creepy beliefs and shes a narcissist so i think she wants to be able to spin the narrative and be able to question witnesses at her own discretion
While I agree with this, not everyone can afford representation when it comes to legal matters unfortunately. But if given the option of free counsel most people with an iota of intelligence would take it before attempting to represent themselves.
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man her lawyer sounds frazzled and not competent herself
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Peter, you WILL be covering this case, won't you? I have been following this case/story since watching Netflix's docuseries "Sins of our Mother". So I have seen both Lori's first trial as co-conspirator and murderer of Tami (sp?) Daybell, Tylee and JJ, as well as Chad's trial for the same crimes, and now I am glad that the other victim(s)are having justice sought on their behalf. I do feel like of course her choice to represent herself falls into the whole "He who acts as his own lawyer has a fool for a client" category...her statement at sentencing for the Idaho trial is an example of how she could well use this opportunity to get up in court and say whatever she wants put out there. Also....it's interesting to me that she's finally gone back to Vallow after quite loyally (and for awhile, according to family members) clinging to her husband and at least his last name long after he threw her under the bus at his trial. At which he was sentenced to death. I predict she seeks to marry yet again! Just a crazy, crazy story and set of circumstances. Thanks Peter for all your astute, unbiased and intelligent breakdown and coverage of these cases! You da man! lol
The Darryl Brooks trial was absolutely wild…….that poor Judge went through hell….i hope she took a vacay after that trial……Whew!!!!
What is with her attorney she speaks like shes anxious and nervous?
I really like Judge Beresky. He used to be on the family bench. I cannot wait to go to this trial when it happens
I think the judge should look to the Sarah Boone trial as to how to treat this defendant.
sarah didn't state she believed in zombies and an invisible numerical system count down to their demise lol
How to tell he judge your client is nuts and you want to withdraw without telling him..
She’s not legally competent but it doesn’t matter in this generation.
And it really doesn’t matter in her world. She will remain incarcerated for the rest of her natural life.
I think this defense team is way over their heads and are pushing for Lori ,the serial killer, to represent herself,
We all know her prior diagnosis anyway; it was made public during the ID trial. This should be a moot point.
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The judge made the right call! If this question is not answered properly by a mental health professional who has spoken with her, there will forever be this juicy ripe apple, ready to be plucked the second she gets convicted. All it takes is one very good appeal attorney to make the right arguments and the whole thing needs to start over.
I don't think this judge actually believes she's incompetent, he knows very well what manipulative games she's playing, but that belief needs to be solidified by an expert, especially because she has not made many statements in court. It's not like there is an overflow of evidence from her to justify a lay human to legally opine as to her mental state.
If she wants to represent herself, she needs to cooperate. Nobody is asking her to tell her life story in court, nobody needs to know the details of her crimes, but she needs to talk. If she's purposely being vague, then the doctor should be able to recognize that and then that'll mean she's competent to understand the situation enough to be vague about it. She could actually say that literally and it would help her achieve what she wants: getting to represent herself. But what we cannot have is a judge filling in the meaning of her silence without an expert basis.
If she truly wants to get a speedy, pro se trial, she needs to be willing to answer the judge's questions. She will be her own lawyer. We cannot have a lawyer who does not speak, it simply does not work. If she wants to shut up, then she can have a lawyer to speak in her place. If she thinks she can do better, she actually needs to try.
Better to take just a little bit more time to have a clear record than to ask an appellate court after the fact to determine what the words typed in a transcript mean. This circus needs to effectively end when the jury delivers its verdict so that the families can have some peace.
Whats the point in her having a speedy trial?
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I didn't think she was competent for her first trial.
I hope she’s not allowed to represent herself. Although we haven’t heard much from her, whatever we’ve heard, it’s more than enough.
Thank you Peter. You had mentioned this judge not liking the defense. I think it stems from the last hearing and possibly before. They can be very rude to the judge. Especially the male attorney. I also don’t think the judge appreciates Lori Vallow not wanting to show up to hearings because he wouldn’t let her wear street clothes. I’m wondering though… isn’t make up considered contraband? She sure has a lot on.
They can buy basic makeup items on commissary in many States.
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She had her own children murdered, her husband, and very likely her brother. Why waste more money on her?
Lawyers don't have fancy hairdos like they used to. I don't think this lady has been a lawyer very long. Wouldn't you know Lori would want to defend herself.? That imo would be disasterous.She has done nothing but manipulate her whole life.I guess that judge is tired of her. He's probably got no respect and i don't blame him.