Fixing Your Renders
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2023
- Improving four artworks sent to me by the community.
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I like the format.
The architecture render is great, but it also feels like a completely different scene compared to the original in my opinion.
the forest scene is a massive improvement which conveys what the original tried to convey.
Changing the room dimensions, floors, and walls to fix an archviz render feels like an interior designer telling you you should move
@@SacredFeline I thought it was really funny how he raised the ceiling then complained that the ceiling felt too empty.
@@tarettime9392 same thing with the floor, changing it from wood to concrete and after saying that floor is cold and should have a rug
very true
I think the second render was nice, and you changed it into a completely different scene, which was also good but had a completely different vibe. I like the lighting in the original more and also the original sofa looked good in my opinion.
same
As he stated, that render was more about interior design, taste differs, and so will the interior design
yeah I agree, instead of changing the entire setting of the scene just because of a window, he should've just changed the window
@@NastyCupid the way he changed the shot also changed the emotion being conveyed by the scene though. the revised piece felt very hollow and empty and not inviting like he was saying at all. even if you're altering something due to interior design opinions, you should also take into account the original mood of the shot and incorporate it into your revisions. Overall he missed a lot of key points that can make or break a professional piece.
Same. If it was for interior design, I guess it's fine but for me it went from 'affordable' to 'I guess I'll keep looking.' Great job regardless.
Hey guys the first image was mine and the camera angle supposed to be a drone shot but he really improved it amazing. Thanks a lot Andrew ❤
well from your camera angle i wouldn't change much like he did. Your render looks great from above and is probably meant to be like it is because you wanted it from a drone perspective. So yeah all he did was just change the angle so he could do "his scene". In my opinion nothing wrong with your render, great work!
I prefer your shot
from your angle, i would only change the sun angle and grass. Yours was good tbh
I liked your camera angle better :)
yours kinda reminded me of a shot from a michael bay movie, it's actually just the poor quality trees that bother me :3
For the second render, you changed it from a warm and welcoming, casual photo of a living room to a cold and detatched, industrial room instead. The first version, with the scattered books and macbook on the coffee table, the deep soft sofa, and occupied shelving unit made it feel real and homely. It felt warm and somewhere where you would feel comfortable collapsing after a long day of work. The second version felt cold and bright, and with the concrete floor and organised table, it felt like somewhere you might host an interview in a shirt and slacks. Instead of feeling like somewhere down to earth and the home of a middle class 20 year old female english teacher, it felt like a brutalistic take on a second house/apartment for a 30 year old male CEO or IT specialist.
I'm personally not a fan, I thought the original version felt far more welcoming than the second. It didn't feel like a fix, but more you took the idea of the apartment-esque window and ran with it.
Instead of changing that, I would've altered the original window to something with fewer, larger panes, with some frosting at the bottom, a dog's water and food bowls with some kibble on the floor, a slight camera rotate to the right like you did, but less so as to not get rid of the bookshelf from the frame. I would've possibly changed the concrete walls to something more inviting like an eggshell paint. Additionally, you could replace the concrete with the eggshell paint and put a green/blue floral wallpaper behind the TV.
So many clashing elements in the original render than just the windows. The industrial vibe of the ceilings just didnt mesh well with the rest of the scene. Only the lighting looked homely, everything else screamed apartment. He took the apartment idea and ran with it and it came out better than the original in my view.
you nailed it bro. this guy made a relatable and comfortable piece into an ad out of a magazine featuring upperclass NYC lofts
stop yappin i agree though
great format! would love to see more
HI TRMIX!
hey trimix! love your videos. can't believe only one person responded to your comment apart from me
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yes excellent insights in these! esp the arch vis one, Andrew thought of things I'd never have thought of. But they were all great.
certainly please do more Guru! Lovely to watch 😍
hey! trimix love your video dude keep grinding :)
I don't agree with all the changes, but I really like hearing about the thought process. Always good to take a photo with a purpose.
open eyes to new visions really
every image literally looked 1000x times better wym
@Pietro Figura Agree, and the main thing that was off for me was the colors looked washed out. At the end of the day everyone's taste is different.
That is because he is thinking out of the (cg) box and making them look more like real life spaces, but one thing I'll agree with you that is real life is messier than CG renders so you're not liking them.
I agree. Not all the changes were quite to my liking but the thought process is the valuable part here. It's about asking yourself the right questions.
I think you are not "fixing" these renders, i think you are changing them based on the concept of the author. It is a great format anyway and changing them so much is useful because you can give us a lot of tips! Please do not stop! I found this as useful as the first blender tutorial i watched, thank you Andrew.
@@almuaz nah i dont think so
i was about to say that too, I think he changed the first two renders way too much. the third and fourth ones were fine tho
Definitely fixing them. Aesthetically and technically they are each vastly improved
@@combusken4043 How is the first one improved? its literally a completely different render... the first one is emulating video games and drones and he just completely takes that aspect away
@@salty3567 The camera angle and settings are just as critical to the story of a piece as any other aspect, and must therefore be very carefully considered. The camera in the first one may have been attempting a drone shot, but there's nothing about the context of the scene that would necessitate a drone shot. Apart from that, it's very weak compositionally when it comes to balance and lack of a focal point. The second isn't perfect, but shows a much better understanding of these principles, and story can much more easily be gleaned.
The moment when he switched lighting in the 3rd render was breathtaking.
the wonders of subsurface scattering.
I feel the original version of the apartment had a lot more warm tones, and the top-view of the abandoned scene had a post-apocalyptic videogame vibe to it that I like. But I do agree with the changes to the car scene.
I really like the idea of this video and there are some great tips and tricks in there. The only thing that botherd me, is that you didn't fix the first two images, but made them entirely your own. Especially the first one is now completly different. I would love to see you fix renders without changing every Model in the scene, but by tricks with ligthing and composition of the image. Things like the "gunk" on the water or the lighting from the back in the third image were the real eye openers for me.
Good feedback! If I do another (pending performance of this vid) I'll try to stay truer to the original vision.
@@blenderguru I actually think you should stay the course, a lot of making a scene is composition, so fixing a scene is going to require recomposing it, I liked what you did, people need to learn about composition, probably the thing is newbies lack most
@Blender Guru if staying truer isn't making the improvements people can learn from then no point in it ! 🙄 love the format and sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind , keep the hatchet out 😁
@@leocadle209 Kind of agree, while I made a similar comment saying that he changed too much, I also feel like I wouldn't have learned as much if he didn't. I kind wish he could do both!
@@blenderguru I think the reason why the last picture kept the same vibe could be linked with the fact that you received a description of the aim of the artist. A description of the artist's main message can always help.
I tend to agree with a lot of the other feedback about sticking to the vision of the original, but otherwise I would absolutely love to see more of these videos. Perhaps you could also do different challenges for yourself (i.e., can't change the POV angle, have to use the original assets in the render, etc.) just to keep it interesting.
I love this format, i definitely want to see more of it!
I feel like the second artist was going for something more homely and warm rather than something wealthy and industrial. I think a series like this should be more about bringing the artist's vision to life rather than forcing your own onto it. That's just my opinion tho!
Hey guys I'm Kade the one that made the 3rd image the forest render. This video concept is awesome and would love to see more. I feel like I'm stumbling through with a lot of uncertainty with what I'm creating and I will hear concepts that I feel i understand and will implement them and go "that looks good" but I feel like I'm missing things but I just can't put my thumb on it. With all these renders I thought they looked good and then your additions took them to the next level that I've been trying to figure out. And seeing what goes in to that process is so helpful. Thank you for the critique Andrew!
I hear it helps a lot to learn about photography and composition!
the best thing you can do is look at lots of references honestly
To be honest, yours was the only one I liked better as the original
Take photography lessons to learn more theory!
i agree with jrcowboy. BlenderGuru was supposed to "fix the renders" and not "change the whole scenery". I'm really pissed that he changed the whole concept of your art and just called it a day. he should make adjustments, not changes.
honestly I like yours better :/
The forest scene fix was the best IMO, it really improved the final image a lot.
I really love the results from images 1-3-4, you really bumped it. The forest lake is just gorgeous. Thanks for the class and also congrats to the original creators, they were not that far off. I'm eager to see what they come up with next.
the change in lighting at 10:36 made me go "wow". Amazing work as usual and thank you for taking the time to make these helpful videos for us!
I actually really liked the camera angle in the first image, I don't really consider changing that fixing it. Though the rest was definitely really good work and the final render looks great!
If he had chosen to keep the camera angle, he would have to put a lot more work on the entire scene, much more complex objects, probably a "mansion" house to show off the diff layers and geometry. With that simple scene that camera angle doesnt work. Maybe making the water tower higher and moving it to the camera position like its a person standing on top of it looking down but thats very tricky to do.
@@lordjaraxxus663 that could be a possible way to fix the piece if what it was trying to achieve was realism above everything but the intention was never made clear. I think the piece wasn't meant as a realistic image but moreso as a diorama, or a miniature maybe, or at least that angle. It gave the piece a little uniqueness over just another hut in a forest
I think you'd have kept the spirit of the first image more if you had made it properly isometric, like I thought the original creator tried to achieve.
In general what would add to these videos imho is more of an explanation from the creator about what they tried to achieve (like the forest render). This way you could help them achieve that goal better instead of just creating what you like yourself more. Just to make it a bit more specific.
Very informative video nonetheless!
Exactly what I thought. He didn´t improve these renders, he just created a different one (that is good)
@@FreshPe yea
Couldn't have said it better myself
This is a really useful format to show how a few simple steps can elevate a render to that next level. My renders often look like the before images that seem to be missing the extra magic. Definitely want to see more of these!
I love this format. It not only helps artists working in 3D but it also can help other artists working on illustrations, photo-compositions etc. It's one thing to know how to make things, it is another to figure out how to present it the best way possible.
Please keep doing these it’s nice to see not only constructive criticism but also you doing the changes to the render. Very helpful work!
I would love to see this series continue, but one thing I would try to do is have the original creator includes notes on why they made certain details the way they were. That way your creative vision is adding, not detracting from theirs. Awesome video though, and I can see this being very useful to more advanced blender users who want to learn more about composition and finishing touches!
That's a really good idea
I hope you do more of these! It’s always very interesting to see an industry experts thought process and feedback.
This is probably THE best format possible to learn from. As a beginner these are mistakes we would probably all make and having specific pointers like this is amazing
This is really great. I struggle with these issues a lot. Specially "what do you want to show in a render" rather than showing off every single object weirdly. Appreciate the hardwork. Hopefully I can become a great artist like you in near future.
The loft interior was mine! Thank you very much for the critique! I’m still learning and your fixes taught me a lot! I hope I can keep growing, thanks again!
Working with blender for 3 years and still find this very helpful. Please continue with this format!
This is pure gold stuff ! Keep them coming , videos like these makes you look at your own creations and tends you to improve it .
as everyone so far has said Love the format! And I can see why this didn't turn out to be a live edit on stage ':) and as for my car render after you mentioned it I have to agree that the speeding cars distract from the main subject and the final render is more eye catching then what I did originally, and I don't know why I didn't do any renders with spinning wheels as the red shine looks great :D and if I have time to re-render this car the shot from 11:55 can definitely be it's own thing as it has some interesting reflections from the street lights that my original image didn't have at all. And I really hope this becomes a series, I learned quite a lot from this video!
Glad you liked the changes! Fantastic model. Easy to make it look great :)
That's an awesome car, dude/person.👍🏻
@@RickHenderson thank you :D
Hey I highly recommend looking into color sponge and ash Thorpe for sick car renders and designs and studying their showcases.
@@tarettime9392 oh will check that out thank you!
Those walls and that floor in that apartment are ANYTHING but wealth my man. Otherwise, really nice video concept, hope you make more!
he said that in one of his earlier videos that lately concrete is like an interior decor trend, the only people that hire interior decorators are wealthy people, so it IS wealth afterall
@@the99999th a decor trend for wannabe casual startups.
I really like this format not gonna lie,
It just always amazes me how watching someone work on something can give sooo much info and help a lot, especially when the tips were explained.
So yeah, I'd love to see more videos like this!
For the 2nd Render (The interior) I liked the vibe of the original one way better. The original one just looked like the kinda place that I would want to live in. Maybe the view out the window drastically changes the appeal of the place. I'd rather change the window than make it an apartment.
Yes. More, please. This absolutely slaps as a concept for us mere mortals who can barely summon a decent rendered donut in the church of blender.
These are some really enlightening tips and changes, but I'd like to see some more restriction on the assets you choose to improve the renders people send in. Sometimes all you have is free assets and paying for better ones isn't an option, so I challenge you to improve the next batch without any paid assets! :D
edit: I really preferred that first light change in the apartment render to the more wiry one, it fit a lot better with the rest of the theme.
The concept is super dope, I'm actually impatient to see more of this
Love this format, basically small bits of insights with real practical applications
Man, I´ve been struggling for the last 2 days with a render and you come like an angel to the rescue xD thank you so much!
Really gotta love Andrew's dedication, it took him 4 months to render all these but that didn't stop him from making this video. 👍
Is this satire?
@@30Salt yep, pretty obvious too
probably my fav video format of yours because i feel like i really learnt a lot and got to see how much of a difference some things make to a scene. amazing video thank you!!
We've been waiting for your comeback and I like this video format, it is very useful!
awesome vid! I'd like to see more of this series, its always interesting how just the little things can change the whole mood of a pic
Awesome video! I think you were the most radical with changes in #2, almost felt like a different tone than what the OG tried to achieve. Overall, this is extremely refreshing to dissect your thought process!!
When I feel very discouraged in blender, to the point I want to give up, I come here to your channel. It always helps me!
I like this format because you are made aware of some aspects and look at certain scenes with a different eye. Sometimes it's just the little things that make a scene much more exciting and interesting
The original version of the render gave me vibes of those old factories remade into appartmets. The window, the rusty pipe and the materials used on the walls. I liked the original background and i felt like it was fitting and after the redesign it had a very different vibe for me but it looked very good too.
I do actually prefer this format of "community submissions" then competition ones. You do actually get to learn how to improve your work. Maybe i'll send one of my one too?? This type of content is really interesting love to see it Andrew.
Slowly but surely, you've just been making really high-tier Poliigon ads and I'm all for it. It's honestly the only product I've seen in a video that doesn't feel crowbarred in and you've really made some great assets. Thanks for all the donuts!
this is AMAZING. i'm a 3D teacher and my students actually sent me this video so that i do the same with their artworks!! thank you so much for this!
This is amazing, I would love if you went into a bit more detail about how you're achieving some of these effects, such as a the darkening of the underside of the trees in the first render.
Finally, a post from Blender Guru. Hope all is well 🙏🏾
That‘s a great format, Andrew! I learned a lot!
What I especially love about your approach of analyzing scenes and how they should be, why the reference photo is like it is: You‘re looking at the „physics“ or „mechanics“ behind it. In this case e. g. the competitive eco system 9:06. Same with your look at „how are donuts made“ in your famous donut tutorial.
I think this is an excellent way of making renders more realistic. But: You have to understand whats happening, why things/scenes are how they are. Great work!
This is by far my favorite format on your channel. Thanks!
Love how you are not afraid to change something dramatically. Confident artist will know how much and when it is better to change an original vision. Many artists tend to try to salvage a vision but sometimes it is better to start over or change something completely.
What a fantastic video Andrew! While I would still like to see these as presented, I do still feel like dramatic changes in positioning of the camera should be better justified. The first and last pictures especially seem to dramatically change the presentation compared to the original. I would like to see more analysis of what the original was going for to justify changing things. Objectively the final renders are better but I do feel the meaning behind them has changed.
This is great, you get so many opportunities to share quality tips with this type of format
The good thing about this type of video format is that it has a wider audience range as it's not only for those who wanna learn, but more to be entertained.
This is really great Andrew! Very valuable for artists looking to improve there work. I think the Blender community could really use more critique videos, so I'd certainly like to see more of these types of videos!
Love your channel Ryan! great seeing you here as well
@@PiginaCage Hello! Thanks 😃
Ryan the GOAT, glad to see ya here bud
@@Jimmith829 Thanks!
Sensei @Ryanking, glad to see you here, with andrew the GOAT, you don't really seem like a guy who is gud with critiques, buh am sure u can come up with a video format that is mind blowing as well, will be waiting.
I feel like the 2nd room turned into a criminal hangout form GTA, still ok tho
We definitely need to se more of this format! It helps us understand how a good render is created, taking notes from it!
Damn! In my opinion, Youve nailed your new format. This is the exact type of thing Id love to know more about! Sure, it's always wonderful to see blender tutorials, but this. This is how you can help us, the artists, to grow their presentation skills 👏
For the 2nd image, I think you made it worse...
At frist I like the redesign!
The new designs are much more appealing without question, but they are very different in feel from the original images - especially the apartment.
So I would be interested to hear what the original artists think.
This is fantastic. Shifting to an asset quality and interior design mindset produces better results
Great hearing your take on assets, textures, camera angles, etc. Def enjoyed this review format
should've kept the angle in the first one, or similar, to maintain it's integrity.
I don't like the changes made to architecture one, just changing the window panes and hdr would have given better results.
There was no reasons to change the bricks design. The first one is a wallpaper that people use in interior, the one you used was litteraly an unplastered wall and the floor also didn't need to be changed
modern homes
@@melsell7910 what was modern about changing a perfect brick wallpaper to an unplastered wall?
Your tutorials are so easy to follow. I've learnt more from you in the last day than ever before. I got to the icing stage of your doughnut tutorials yesterday and continuing today. Thank you 😃
LOVE this new format, please do make more of these types of videos.
you ruined number two so hard lmfao. at some point i thought ure just joking. but my mans over here takin the pizz and completely shredding the render into something so ugly only a mother could love
I mean.. ye i kinda agree with you, the lighting went from A to C, he could've stopped at here 4:06
correction : this isn't 'fixing' renders, this is just ReMaking renders by the Forrest point 😂
xD
This was a fantastic video thankyou! Love your work Andrew! The lake one blew my mind when you changed the lighting.
I love the fact that you're talking about the creative - not technical - side of things. Very useful.
lol you didn't fix these renders, you changed them entirely to your own taste.
Great Format! But I felt like your "fixing" was too invasive to the original. There was some tips like the lake gunk or the moving background car breaking up the silhouette, or golden hour there were really helpful but the apartment for example was like completely different, you didn't fix it, you made ur own...
Mate, Awesome format. I really hope you do more of these!!!
I love this format Andrew. You're always a very welcoming and charming creator.
Since the video is called "Fixing your renders", I'd have expected only fixing the rendering, not changing this many aspects of the shots. If the guy with the flat needs to have a 3d render of a real flat, your changes are completely useless to him...
I feel you are changing waaaaay too much about these sceneries...
cool but i don't like what you did with the first two. specially the first one. it had a pretty unique thing going on and you made it generic and uninteresting. You should have leaned into the concept and made it into a tilt-shift photo. it would've looked much cooler, unique and interesting. the second one you changed so much that it's not even remotely the same scene or even concept. plus i like how the original looked way better, both from visuals and from design.
The new format is awesome. It's so much easier to understand.
Love this format, if you continue doing it it would be awesome to have the artist add a note under their render just so its clear what they were trying to achieve with their render so you can approve it accurately!
Yea bro! Stoked to see you making stuff like this!!
PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE make this a series
Love this format of videos! I can watch these all day.
Keep on this format. It's really fascinating.
Hi Andrew, I've been learning from your tutorials for a couple of yours now and yeah man, love love love this new tutorial format, thanks for all your tips, tricks and pointers, cheers mate.
This is so fantastic... and makes so much sense after the initial training sessions...
I'm currently building my own house and this video taught me as much about 3d design as it did about Interiors. Thanks dude :)
I'd love to see more of this format Andrew!
Yes Please keep doing this. I learned so much and have so many little mental notes from this. Formats perfect.
Love the format! Really interesting seeing the changes being made
Please keep making these! Learned a lot from this. Love a good critique!
Andrew dude I'd absolutely love to see more! This was awesome!
I loved the hell out of this format
You should definetly keep going woth this format as it's both informing and fun to watch. Hope too see more!
I love this new format, really keeps my attention. This video gives me a better idea of blender, photography, and 2D art.
love the format! instructive, entertaining and oddly satisfying lol. keep it up!
Love the format, I feel like I learn a lot in a short time. Keep em comming! :)
This is the Guru we missed🙂Please keep doing these segments often. Thanks mate👌
This new video format is great!! reaally want to see more
Brilliant format! Please continue it.