LSL Wall Framing + BIG Mistake (This Lost Us $2,000+)! [DAY 4]
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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What’s the biggest mistake you’ve made on a build? This isn’t nearly our biggest, but it is a setback!
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Nail a stud on the otherside of the bigggg old X I marked 5 seconds ago...😉
With the way we layout door openings, “x”’s on our plates would get wicked confusing!
What state do you frame in?
Where is his mistake
I cut tip of my thumb with table saw, luckily it was so "tiny" piece that it healed back to normal but it took few months to heal.
It happens Matt
I once built a house at the wrong address. Shit happens
how does that happen lmfaoooooo
You’re killing me. Now if only that was true! 😂 I had trusses built and delivered for a house that wasn’t even built yet! Wasn’t our fault, but the builders..
MattBangsWood it happened here in Sydney Australia, the bloke demolished the wrong house , no joke
Never saw the wrong house demoed but guys for the roofing company I worked at went to the job from there house guess it was closer then the shop and presented to rip the roof off the wrong building come to think of it I guess they didn’t go to the job lol
Funnier the owner showed up to his business I said what the fuck u doing to my roof they ripped a good amount too that guy got a free back half and crew got another job I don’t think the other 2 were paid for their time there it was that or lose their jobs
i just started framing for the first time today and i had alot of fun learning it but i got alot more to learn 👍🏼 you just got yourself a new subscriber
Stoked to have you here brotha! We've got an awesome community here, lots to learn all around.. As you saw, I learned something new on this day, lost a few grand while learning too! Haha!
Ouch. But the only way mistakes will never happen is if you sit on the couch all day long. Well done as usual and I'm enjoying this series.
Drop the wall and use a 3/8" hole saw bit (with a drill) and drill out around the nails, then cut the nails off and pound in the remaining shank OR just pull the nails out after removing the panels. Check with the manufacturer to see how to properly fill the holes in the panels then flip and reinstall. Bang On Matt!
That could easily work! I wonder if filling holes would work. I've been trying to figure out how to do it. We saw a video a while back with someone dryfiring a nailgun and it pushes the nail through the sheet.. I'm going to try it, and see how it does, if it doesn't work.. It's back to the drawing board! Haha.
Chances are, we'll just replace the sheets so it's good as new. It was our bad!
Regardless, it wont slow us down. It's all just money!
@@MattBangsWood you can patch the panels according to the manufacturer. Use your palm nailer or ratatap to sink nails.
I have learned quite a bit from watching this channel. Thanks Matt!!!
Install your fire block right! 😂 Live and learn. Appreciate the support!
I'm about to sign on the line for an architect to draw up plans for an extension, probably the biggest mistake I'm yet to make :)
Read his spec book carefully. They often hide important details in that book to trip you up.
They know they are going to make mistakes so they want you to make them for trading on later.
An old man told me, "Read that spec book or someone is going to read it to you", not good.
Fair play for uploading a video highlighting a mistake and not acting perfect
That was the plan, showcase something most would hide. It happens! We screwed up.. Let me tell you though, we STOMP the rest of this build!
House flooded from a Hurricane a couple years ago. 3rd day with the company. 3rd day ever doing construction. Boss texted me the address and said cut out the drywall from all the affected rooms. I gutted the living room, hallway and half a bedroom by lunch when he showed up and LOST IT. He only wanted the parts of drywall that got wet to be cut out. About 5 inches.
Dang fox is actually using his hammer holder
I like how your comment is heading to #1 spot. RUclips is so proud of Fox, haha!
😂 Yeah but Matt senior still isn't.
Oh man last week was my first time working with fiber glass sheets almost put the white side facing in good thing I asked before nailing them off
No doubt in my mind those sheets went the way I put them! Turns out I’m not right. 😂
nice to see some wisdom.
Leaving the wood on the lift was a smart idea.
I know it's not always reliable information, but a few minutes on Google I found a video from the company showing the material with the white side facing out. Loving the videos though, keep up the great work. Look forward to watching more!
We weren’t questioning it. Had we wondered, we would have googled it. Just assumed.. Never a good thing!
Get you a little bosch laser for plumbing up those tall walls!👍
Didnt notice that the TJI layout put 14" joists over top the garage (2nd floor) and regular 12" on main house. Built and erected whole garage with overhang (we sheet walls before standing). Had to build a scaffold and saw / sawzall 2" off all studs, reattach top plates, re straighten the walls and R&R the whole overhang
Fire sprinkler guys drained pipes on 2nd floor (commercial-high rise) , thought Maine valve was closed.. shit was not closed haha I had to soak up all the water, it could’ve been worse no one got fired 👌🏽
Hi Matt. Hope you don't have to remove those sheets!! The structure will be amazingly huge!! Enjoy the day. Ray L
Cant wait for those headers, trim etc.... Is all good Matt now I know if I ever help out in a job like that I know how they go. Live an learn WE see an learn.
I went to dig a ditch and it started out right in a row of footings. 6 pads about 8 foot square and 4 foot deep. All poured with column steel poking up, all 4 feet off center. The owner said hell no to re engineering. So order up the biggest crane we could find and spend a Sunday pulling them out and placing them out of the hole.
I'm a commerical carpenter...Great on metal, a hobbyist on wood....I'm into my 36th year on the metal end of it and I'd say the most common product installed improperly is RC channel...unside down. I've seen it left that way and gone unchallened, but there are tons of things I have seen done wrong that have gone unchallenged and covered up. I'd say asbestos abatement is one for sure as I've been direct witness to that being falsified as abated....oh and if you aren't tripping on occasion, you're not walking. Mistakes are a part of work unfortunately, they come along on occasion. I had a wall this year about 100 foot long that I layed out off a control line and someone cut an inch in the middle of it............glad I caught wind of it before it got rocked! S.Happens!
Also make sturdy wall if you staggered the sheets!
Wouldn’t pass with staggered sheets
Unfortunately here in over engineered California, they’re pain in the asses with stuff like this. Down to the nail gets inspected!
Love it here, but hate building here.
We where installing pre built walls for a apartment complex same wall lay out for all 3 story. Well the 2nd and 3 floor walls got picked off the trailer first to find out the 1 floor walls where 9 foot ceiling oops
I tiled an entire bathroom shower and wainscoting back side out. The tiles were designed to set from either side, and the customer did specify the textured side should face out, but the GC never told me... just sent me out to do the job. He did admit his own fault, and agreed that the textured side looked like the back. And yes, I did tear it out and redo it with new tile that took 3 weeks to arrive.
This is my favorite building channel BANG ON!!💥💥
Have you ever watched House Construction ahead, its a great movie, old (90’s) but still good. I loved it as a kid.
Crown it and nail it
Framed did the same on our last job and they decide to densglass it over the plywood
Post the wall assembly detail so we can shame the architect.
Looks like this is the first time you guys do sheeting!
First time we do Flameblock, yes! We use densglass. 😉
Hey Matt, I am late to the party, but according to their product, unless I'm reading it incorrectly, that single sided LP fire block sheath is white face to the interior unless it is double sided. Again, I can be mistaken. The job does looks great man.
Damn sunny every day hey?! We have snow here in canada haha
Same happened to us on a job .. 🤘🏼 keep moving ! Although sucks for whoever has to un nail those sheets !
I cut the porch beams short.. had to buy new ones
They make Fire Guard paint. Maybe they will let you paint them, not cheap but may be cheaper than remove and replace.
Those panels you are using are expensive and if the architect is tough he may not let you reuse them.
Good Luck!
Biggest mistake: flipped a lull, and crushed a wooden training obstacle used by the military. Had a big bag of rubber mulch boomed out, went down a hill a little further to spread the mulch and over she went.
At the end of the day still a dope build
Appreciate that greatly, it's a great build! I couldn't be happier to be here.
MattBangsWood trust me!!! I moved from Cali to Washington just to frame, we are starting an apartment soon and I’m just looking for other methods and what not dope as build!!
Has Q Dog dropped his classes and got a raise yet!?!?! #QDog2020
guess you'll have to chalk line the flameproof side lol
Maybe there is a flame blocking material that you could paint on to the exterior???
Yes its fire retardant paint. Alot of suppliers can order it for you. I used it on a project.
Yes we use it all the time in Commercial Construction
I think you did a good job man!
Hey Matt I moved to California in the Clovis area do you know a good building supply place where I can get LVL studs and for that matter good building supplies you do great work by the way may God bless the labor of your hands
Internet experts and keyboard warriors unite! Someone made a mistake, chaaaaargeeee
There’s nothing sexier than hearing a framing nailer on a jobsite.
12:00 😶😶 I’ve replayed it about a dozen times now lol
What's the oldest person you've seen to begin working as a framer? I'm 32. I did HVAC installation for awhile, but always wanted to get into framing houses, etc. I just got to North Dakota today and I think these guys are going to hire me once they see my application. It says no experience needed.
Worst mistake i ever did went to install a dining room floor and went to the wrong condo. Little old lady let us in we walk into her condo and she points us to the empty master bedroom. Not uncommon for the wrong room to be on the paperwork. My coworker starts cutting the carpet right down the middle of the room. I start looking for the hardwood that should have been delivered to acclimate. I ask the lady wheres the flooring? She says " you mean my new bed" Then it clicks were at the wrong address. I actually held the door open for the guys delivering the bed as we left.
ahoron did you do any damage to the carpet? I always worry about going to the wrong address and just start ripping off shingles haha I’m a roofer though don’t do carpet.
OH WOW!
Mistake , Over cut a swimming pool , had to backfill 20m3 usual back fill is 5m3
I would be tempted to double skin that work, in situ, with the second layer flame block out 🙂
so i guess the flame block should be on the outside is in case of wild fires?
Cool man👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I’m really surprised that little fork lift thing can lift those walls.
We are too! It’s a lot to lift with an 8K. The down riggers and the boom extension help.
MattBangsWood I guess the fire proof side being on outside would give some protection from forest embers settling on the skin. But why doesn’t the manufacturer mark both sides?
That’s a good question, I’m not entirely sure, but I wish it was clear.. “THIS SIDE OUT” like densglass.
It’s unfortunate, but it is what it is!
Can you not angle grind off the nail heads take off the sheet bang down the nails and put the new nails through the old holes once you have turned the sheets????
We attended it to the house with a breezeway fix the problem
Just insluate it, spin it around and re-shealth it *mint*
You should call the manufacturer and ask which way it should go, why would they waste paint on the nail pattern design? Not a framer just a suggestion. Thanks Matt!
A house accrost the street where i am working today, masons had the slab too close to the street, after the house was framed and finished (rough framing and house wrap) they decided to demolish whole house and start all over again lol
WHAT?! Imagine that.. Concrete & Framing is right around 30% of build cost, I couldn't imagine losing that much..
How would a site supervisor/ client contact would know which side of the flame block would be facing for building construction wood part should always be facing out and the fire block should be in the inside of the building
They build a lot of wineries, this is the product they use every time. It’s not a client contact, he’s practically the builder.
Well if the builder didn't know the code says about fire block then he should have read up on it cause the fire block goes on the inside the one mistake I had and fix the same day was to add the window frame when doing the framing of an addition to the home but was fix right there in the same day but to my understanding the fire block is always on the inside not on the outside cause if it rains and the moisture gets behind the siding then the fire block is no good cause it's damp and won't do the job
If you're building by code then your putting the material the right way and the builder says you're doing it wrong and wants it done his way which isn't by code then show him the code where the fire block is used
15:02 That Genie lift has no outriggers? Would hate to be up that high if it was at all windy or if on any ground other than super flat concrete.
That size doesn't have outriggers. It has plates that fold down and make contact with the ground when extended
@@thetonezone8164 Thanks for Info.
Nail 'er Sailor!
I think my next tattoo will be a “BANG ON” somewhere.. 😂
It’s hard explaining to people what’s tattoo’d on my hand though, nobody but framers understand it. 😂
Lost 23k in spray foam this past summer due to miscommunication...
no way....
May I ask how?! That’s a lot!
MattBangsWood Our customer was leaving on vacation, we had just wrapped up 2 post frame buildings and the initial plan was to insulate both for them... Before they flew out we did a walk through with them and the site manager and they only wanted to spray building A to start, so we did, before double checking and re assuring ourselves that it was correct we had sprayed already and the guys manager stopped us too late... the guy had changed his mind without thinking we would spray right away... ended up biting half of the product cost.
So my only question is why is the flame block on an exterior wall? Where I work we use it for the exterior wall of a house that is covered by a garage. Was told it’s not weather proof. Just curious here
Mistakes are "teaching moments", some much more painful than others. On a hospital we laid out the drain, waste and vent plumbing and installed it, and then the change memo we hadn't checked for got to us. the parts, and most of the cut pipe fit where the change went to, but three days for five men had been wasted- I didn't get my chance at a foreman's hard hat till after that- it was one mistake I didn't make again. Unforunately, there are many ways to fail! Suck it up and KOKO!FR
Pouring the slab of a basement floor and then realizing you forgot to install the inslab heating.
Oh bummer on the osb hope you don't have to tare it off
Not only that but didn't look like your osb joints were staggered.
Why are some blocks put in parallel to the top plate (4:00), and some blocks put in perpendicular to the top plate (11:00)?
Cool guitar work
Stuff happens not one got hurt, your out some time and money but atleast you learned something.
3:09 never seen someone wear actual cowboy boots in construction...walkway ...watch out
I told him to get rid of them! Ain’t no framer wearing cowboy boots on site..
Hahaha you know his feet had to have been aching after work.
I've seen someone on RUclips wear slippers on the jobsite, lol Matt.
You should see the stuff we wear here in Hawaii.
Matt, when you see cutting your blocking for the walls, do you cut them a blade short?
14-3/8” for a 16” O.C. Wall. 😊 If you do 14-1/2”, your walls will bow.
Mat but your losing 1/8 every time it will still bow somwhere
I do 14 1/2 then 14 7/16 so it does not bow out
@@MattBangsWood yuppppp
The OOPS - flame block on the inside. Can you do a flame retardant spray on the outside? I would think you can hire some one to spray and have it cure in the open air. It would probably cost more to tear down and order replacement sheets than to find someone to hire. The worst case is to break even on the OOPS. Thoughts?
How the heck does that floppy hat stay on Foxs head?
Fox has a really crazy amount of gravitational pull downward. It doesn’t EVER fly off, unless I blow it with the blower!
at 10:50 when he is nailing in those 2x6 flush with the studs is that only for nailing the plywood into? Does that technique have a name or any other purpose?
What's your thoughts on the cut hub I'm looking into buying one
Site Super should have informed you of that as a minimum or it should have been printed on your plans. The way I see it you did your job and it’s on him.
What’s up with all the blocking?
Hey Matt, I sure would appreciate a constructive explanation about the difference in construction methods between what you do and the construction methods of RR Buildings - please keep doing what you're doing, really enjoying it #FatDad #Brisbane #Australia
That site supervisor is the kind of bloke that sees ya makin a mistake, lets ya finish then says oh shit mate that’s wrong,
Shit communication mate .
Expensive error and it’s not good enough
Why no stagger and why are the sheets installed vertically not horizontally Matt? Have to ask.
Call out on plans. It’s done differently everywhere. We’re in a gnarly seismic zone, so we build a certain way.
@@MattBangsWood I see, shitty deals with those sheets, they need to specify on the sheets saying this side face out. Having the lines on the OSB is incredibly misleading. Definitely an honest mistake, nice job on the build guys!
Sounds like a hitachi they all make a certain bang
Not timber related... But whats the guitar music around 7mins??
Cheers man and keep the vids coming 👍
Ouch. Chips happens.
This is not the series I needed to find at 1am 😣
Oh buddy, you have a long ways to go my friend.
MattBangsWood that’s the issue 😆
looks like you could use a sledge hammer for setting your walls into place
doesn't make any sense when your lines on the osb is useless and cannot see where you are nailing
I agree, it sucks, but it is what it is.
Chalkline no? Friendly comment tho
It does take time, but the builder we’re with is all about his builds being spot on. We snapped all lines on new walls. Siding guys will thank us later! 😊
Definitely chalk line though Giovanni! No hate at all, I wouldn’t have posted this if I didn’t want the discussion! 😉 We snapped 16/32” on all sheets installed after this screw up.
What mess up
What happened to your new hire labour??
notification squad!!!!
Question for you, is it possible to make 2 walls of 2x4's ontop of each other vs. buying extra long 2x6's or would that be too flimsy?
You can’t stack any walls that way. It’s a hinge point.
Think of your knee. Kick the back of your knee and it’ll collapse, as it’s a hinge point. Now kick someone’s back, only way it’s a hinge point is if it physically breaks.
@@MattBangsWood yeah for sure, makes sense, so anytime you need to make a tall wall, then you need to use 2x6's. Correct?
If you have them joining 2x4's, let's say for a half wall of a second floor (loft), would you line up the edges on the inside or outside of the structure? .
do you all square the wall nefore the OSB ?
8:09 I caught Fox without a smoke in his mouth.. lol
Is that off the 101 HWY
Its I stalled correctly. How else do they expect to keep a fire contained inside the building. Plus LP shows it installed in that orentation.
@12:47 "It's so much easier on the ground."-Fox Ummmmm, I've watched episode 5.........never mind. You'll see.
LOL
Who is the guy in the light blue shirt? I've seen him before but don't remember any name or who he is.
I think he is Matt's dad.
There, mat, mattts dad, fox (the guy who is always smoking) and quintin,
It’s my Pops, his names Matt as well. He chimes in a few times in later videos, good dude, just wasn’t brought up in the technology era of vlogging. Lol
Hey is this is san luis Obispo?
It's nearby, about an hour away from SLO.
Nice i live in slo i think i seen one of ur guys today at autozone hahah small world
I forgot to line up the beams ending up with a lot with the wrong length, to short
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I’m sorry but of course the wrap goes on the outside to cover the osb!
It’s obvious, rough out was the first thing I thought of though. Unfortunately, it happened!
When I thought about it from a burning standpoint, it made more sense!!
MattBangsWood just put more over the top of the osb, no need to take the osb off and remove! Much live from Scotland
It all depends where your trying to stop the spread of the fire and what products are used over the OSB.
Check your drawings it should be in the details.
On roofs usually the white side is down and the rough lined side of the OSB is up.
Walls can go either way depending on what Is recommend by the local codes and design.
Biggest mistake was building a great room Wall 2 feet off and owner realized once book shelfs already built and he was about to move in!