Interesting. StoreDot came onto the scene some time ago and it all seemed very still in the lab like technology. Impressive. EV is the present and future. No going back from here.
Where will this Massive energy flow come from on a large scale demand? The electric grid of now is taxed to limit. The Dream can become true , then there is reality of electric grid power capacity.
@@mikewallace8087local production from the nearby roofs covered in solar panels. The grid has to evolve from a one source of energy for the entire country to a "many sources of energy distributed across the country".
@@mikewallace8087 The grid is capable in most areas and in fact has an excess of capacity, some areas will need upgrades and or use of on sight storage capacity.
@@mikewallace8087there is enough capacity, off peak hours. If you want to charge at 380 kW, there will be a premium price to be paid. That is OK, if you can afford an expensive car, you do not mind paying USD 100 for USD 10 worth of energy
It's amazing to read the UK Daily Telegraph newspaper. They seem to assume the rate of progress of ICE cars and EVs is identical. They refuse to look at battery technology. And not just the energy density....LOOK AT THE PRICE of the battery. The progress is AMAZING
The whole Ionity network will be able to give 350kW. So that would be pretty ok for a P5. Also beginning to seen 400kW-chargers in Sweden. Also new Tesla chargers are at lest +300kW. (V4) Andnthe V3 is 250kW and will probably giv3 a good chargingsession as well. And even if you use a charger that only can gove 150kW the charging time will be pretty low since of the totally flat charging curve it would give. 😀
This keeps getting better, but also makes buyers reluctant to jump in and purchase now, as they can see what is just down the road in 6-12mths.... It is a range equation, you need OVER 350 miles to make life simple and 'road trip' charging only needed for long trips....
@barygol i know right! I guess I will jump in when I can negate the deprecation as that's my biggest fear, by registering as company car and claim tax on deprecation
@@i6power30 in my country incentives have been gone for a while. But some power companies give 3 hours a night free power so only power then so free travel. NZ also has introduced a road tax higher than diesel and petrol for EVs but with free power up still cheapest form of transport
EV battery maker StoreDot says its silicon-dominant battery cells are the world’s first to achieve more than 2,000 consecutive extreme fast charging (XFC) cycles. StoreDot says its battery cells maintained over 80% of their initial capacity, meaning EV drivers can fast charge their cars in minutes daily without worrying about battery health. The Israeli company says that “these results, showing high energy density, are from cells achieving at least 330Wh/kg and 860Wh/L at stack level. The cells were charged consecutively from 10% to 80% in 10 minutes, demonstrating a charge rate of 4.2C, while discharged at a rate of 1C.”
Prototype battery in a prototype car! Polestar said it may use these batteries not that it will use them. Plus in 12 years storedot has not released 1 commercial product from all the things they said they would.
Is this the same store-dot that was founded in 2012 and never brought any commercial products to market as of 2022. 10 mins for a 70% charge seems a good performance but let’s think of 3 of these polestar 5’s on charge at the same time at this rate that’s a massive amount of energy. Equivalent in my calculations to 100 houses running fat out to charge 3 cars? I’m not sure our grids are going to get to this level any time soon.
Yes, there is problem between math and Aussies: charging 10 minutes (from 10to 80%) with average 320 KW gives only 53,3 KWh of energy and means that battery overall capasity is only 76 KWh. Way to go in 2024.
Another major win for EV's, but charging networks must be upgradeable to accommodate super fast charging batteries. There's no question that its game over already for battery tech ending hydrogen and ICE, and yet, battery tech has breakthrough news coming every month. The game now is really about quality for a price. In order to just survive, legacy auto makers must make major EV production efficiency upgrades, and very soon or face doom.
The secret is that the anode has a certain percentage of silicon replacing graphite. The problem with this anode is that the silicon volume varies with a factor of 3 (or 300%) while the graphite volume is changing by a factor of 10%. This is why mitigation methods have to be used in order to maintain the battery lenght of life at its best.
Still need a power grid and charging stations that can handle the demand if the batteries are as good as they claim need them in rural areas that have nowhere near the power available for charging
There's an interesting, oft forgotten, secondary effect of ultra-fast charging [in the 250-300kW zone+] for smaller short range cars with say 40-50kWh of batteries. Imagine being able to put in 30-35kWh into the battery in 6minutes then this makes much cheaper small EVs usable on the occasional longer journey if not exactly highly convenient. This would bring more users into possibly considering an EV or at least having one as a second car. I don't see private car EV charging going above the 400-500kW level, trucks of course will need to see megawatt charging.
Battery tech is making huge strides. Though right now the limiting factor is back to charging stations. Many of the Tesla charging stations outside of metropolitan areas are at 75kw when busy. Getting a fast charging battery today isn't that exciting. Maybe 5 years later when they're all upgraded.
Sam: can’t say how important this is in Australia but in the Northeast US? Not so much. The physical charging infrastructure is still far too limited. Using Boston as an example, it is extremely difficult to charge one’s battery once you get 50+ miles outside Boston. Was at a party last weekend and charging was the focus of a significant conversation…and the consensus was people won’t buy full EV cars until the charges are built (past tense) Try driving into frigid ski country with a 300-400 mile round trip every weekend. EVs are not an option.
"driving into frigid ski country with a 300-400 mile round trip every weekend" Why not every day? I mean if you're going to confabulate a BS story go to the max.
@@hwirtwirt4500 Sorry you don’t like a genuine comment…we drive up to Northern NH approx. 40 weekends a year. I am excited as one can be to buy a new EV, but can’t do it without better charging infrastructure. THAT is what I was sharing with SAM…not some troll.
EV battery maker StoreDot says its silicon-dominant battery cells are the world’s first to achieve more than 2,000 consecutive extreme fast charging (XFC) cycles. StoreDot says its battery cells maintained over 80% of their initial capacity, meaning EV drivers can fast charge their cars in minutes daily without worrying about battery health.
Can this chemistry charge to 100% or discharge down zero with no energy loss, like LiFePo4? (Granted, number of cycles/ longevity still unstated, if I heard correctly.). IMHO, this ability is a key factor affecting not only practical usable range (if you carefully go from 20% to 80%, you immediately give up 40% of potential range) but also affects resale value, since the variable of the previous owner's care in charging patterns gets eliminated by a chemistry that can stand up to any levels.
@@alexandruilea915 Yes, Storedot. Look at their history since they started in 2016. Nothing commercial yet...they teamed up with Polestar but I doubt that anything will come of it. Of course, there is always the first time.
@@briancaos Very true but you really have to wonder what is going on at Tesla...fire 14K people ...sales down...fire entire charging division...release a rather toxic statement from Elon himself. Interesting times for sure.
Isn't energy density in Wh/kg and power density in W/kg? Which figures were compared in the video? (Actually these would be per litre otherwise should be specific energy or specific power but hey!)
10 minutes to full--Don't think so. More like 70% charge from a 10% start point to 80%. I can't wait for the 1mW charger! Noone seems to discuss power distribution to feed chargers. Thats your problem.
Like I predicted, 3 new batteries per year for the next decade. It's going to blow your mind. I can't wait to laugh about how lame my old Tesla is. Like I did about my 90s PC.
stordot .... the company that is owned by a mobile phone supplier Simon Litsyn .... and has share holders in the form of BP, Daimler, Samsung, TDK, Vingroup, Ola Electric, Samsung, TDK, EVE Energy, Volvo, Polestar.... well considering BP are dropping out of the EV charging market and the renewables after loosing billions ....will this battery ever exist?
The major problem is grid infrastructure being able to handle peak demand. Not just daily average. But during peak travel season such as holidays and sporting events and concerts.
Storage on the spot for main chargers to have an energy buffer. That being said, when everyone is on the road they don't need AC at home so it compensates.
@@lesnypatrol7292 That will greatly increaase the cost of charging stations and that cost passed on to consumers, negates one of the chief advantage of EVs which is cheaper charging cost compared to filling up gasoline. If charging costs similar or more to refuelling, then what do you think will do to EV demand?
Viking: What's great about the present situation is the whole world is working on better batteries for evs....The ice people know it's their dawn of death.....
Pity for anyone who doesn't even own a car, let alone an ev who picks up the tab to pay for the infrastructure to provide all that juice. Lets not even go there with the green credentials
..... If you had a charging infrastructure to actually charged with maybe.... There be no range anxiety...... Nobody but Tesla has put any money into any infrastructure... There's no 1,000 kilowwatt fast chargers out there.....
@@jhunt5578 If It's the name of a person, place or thing it should be capitalized. The meaning of philistine and Philistine are different. One is a citizen (the latter) the other a fool.
I just need enough range for 3 hours of road trip driving, so 200-250 miles, but I do need a lot of charging station options and fast charging, such as replenishing those 200-250 miles in 10 minutes such as this battery
@@GraysonAmine does it in 30 min. Takes over 3h to drive for batteri to reach 5-10% then go fast charge it for 30min and eat and chill and then go on and drive another 3h. Its great! But in Sweden and Moreau where i drive Also there is chargers all over
@@andreasl4507 My Genesis GV60 can charge 10%-80% in 18 minutes, but that 70% is only 140 miles in the winter and at highway speed. I would definitely want 200-250 miles in 10 minutes for my next car.
This company has announced several “breakthrough” products in the past 12 years, none of them resulted in a marketable product. All Lithium batteries are constrained by the Laws of Physics and tinkering with the chemistry can only produce marginal improvements.
Ok, You’re not filling an EV in 10 minutes to 100 percent though…. Try that in under an hour with any EV. It still has a ways to go to beat petrol filling
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Excellent contribution
Interesting. StoreDot came onto the scene some time ago and it all seemed very still in the lab like technology. Impressive. EV is the present and future. No going back from here.
Where will this Massive energy flow come from on a large scale demand? The electric grid of now is taxed to limit. The Dream can become true , then there is reality of electric grid power capacity.
@@mikewallace8087local production from the nearby roofs covered in solar panels. The grid has to evolve from a one source of energy for the entire country to a "many sources of energy distributed across the country".
@@mikewallace8087 The grid is capable in most areas and in fact has an excess of capacity, some areas will need upgrades and or use of on sight storage capacity.
@@mikewallace8087there is enough capacity, off peak hours. If you want to charge at 380 kW, there will be a premium price to be paid. That is OK, if you can afford an expensive car, you do not mind paying USD 100 for USD 10 worth of energy
It's amazing to read the UK Daily Telegraph newspaper. They seem to assume the rate of progress of ICE cars and EVs is identical. They refuse to look at battery technology. And not just the energy density....LOOK AT THE PRICE of the battery. The progress is AMAZING
yes. ICE is mature technology whilst EV storage technology is just at the start of the curve.
The whole Ionity network will be able to give 350kW. So that would be pretty ok for a P5. Also beginning to seen 400kW-chargers in Sweden.
Also new Tesla chargers are at lest +300kW. (V4)
Andnthe V3 is 250kW and will probably giv3 a good chargingsession as well.
And even if you use a charger that only can gove 150kW the charging time will be pretty low since of the totally flat charging curve it would give. 😀
This keeps getting better, but also makes buyers reluctant to jump in and purchase now, as they can see what is just down the road in 6-12mths.... It is a range equation, you need OVER 350 miles to make life simple and 'road trip' charging only needed for long trips....
So true, I’ve nearly jumped into EVs 3 times now and each time was happy I didn’t - they just kept getting better and better
@@lifeliver9000problem is, you'll never have one of you keep waiting for the next evolution
@barygol i know right! I guess I will jump in when I can negate the deprecation as that's my biggest fear, by registering as company car and claim tax on deprecation
By the time you jump in the EV incentives will be gone and charging cost will be more than gas
@@i6power30 in my country incentives have been gone for a while. But some power companies give 3 hours a night free power so only power then so free travel. NZ also has introduced a road tax higher than diesel and petrol for EVs but with free power up still cheapest form of transport
EV battery maker StoreDot says its silicon-dominant battery cells are the world’s first to achieve more than 2,000 consecutive extreme fast charging (XFC) cycles.
StoreDot says its battery cells maintained over 80% of their initial capacity, meaning EV drivers can fast charge their cars in minutes daily without worrying about battery health.
The Israeli company says that “these results, showing high energy density, are from cells achieving at least 330Wh/kg and 860Wh/L at stack level. The cells were charged consecutively from 10% to 80% in 10 minutes, demonstrating a charge rate of 4.2C, while discharged at a rate of 1C.”
Impressive battery technology and it's almost here now. Great report Viking.
Not so great, with faulty timelines!
Game stopper
@@dk5746 Do you have some details that you can share, you comment is cryptic. What's not great and faulty with the timeline.
Prototype battery in a prototype car! Polestar said it may use these batteries not that it will use them. Plus in 12 years storedot has not released 1 commercial product from all the things they said they would.
This amazing! No matter how you look at it
Is this the same store-dot that was founded in 2012 and never brought any commercial products to market as of 2022. 10 mins for a 70% charge seems a good performance but let’s think of 3 of these polestar 5’s on charge at the same time at this rate that’s a massive amount of energy. Equivalent in my calculations to 100 houses running fat out to charge 3 cars? I’m not sure our grids are going to get to this level any time soon.
Yes, there is problem between math and Aussies: charging 10 minutes (from 10to 80%) with average 320 KW gives only 53,3 KWh of energy and means that battery overall capasity is only 76 KWh. Way to go in 2024.
10 minute stop every 200 miles? I'd take that.
Another major win for EV's, but charging networks must be upgradeable to accommodate super fast charging batteries. There's no question that its game over already for battery tech ending hydrogen and ICE, and yet, battery tech has breakthrough news coming every month. The game now is really about quality for a price. In order to just survive, legacy auto makers must make major EV production efficiency upgrades, and very soon or face doom.
The secret is that the anode has a certain percentage of silicon replacing graphite. The problem with this anode is that the silicon volume varies with a factor of 3 (or 300%) while the graphite volume is changing by a factor of 10%. This is why mitigation methods have to be used in order to maintain the battery lenght of life at its best.
Bloomberg reports that Musk has fired the entire Supercharger team. What's up with that? 😮
It's called having a mentally unstable CEO.
That tkme stopping to charge was used to toilet, eat and stretch. This battery means I don't have time for that?
Hilarious comment. You have to prioritize pee, poop or your stomach fill it up. Choose delegate and prioritize.
Still need a power grid and charging stations that can handle the demand if the batteries are as good as they claim need them in rural areas that have nowhere near the power available for charging
There's an interesting, oft forgotten, secondary effect of ultra-fast charging [in the 250-300kW zone+] for smaller short range cars with say 40-50kWh of batteries. Imagine being able to put in 30-35kWh into the battery in 6minutes then this makes much cheaper small EVs usable on the occasional longer journey if not exactly highly convenient. This would bring more users into possibly considering an EV or at least having one as a second car. I don't see private car EV charging going above the 400-500kW level, trucks of course will need to see megawatt charging.
02:20 - "the experimental batteries".
What happends with the battery if you use 320 kw over and over again?
Battery tech is making huge strides. Though right now the limiting factor is back to charging stations. Many of the Tesla charging stations outside of metropolitan areas are at 75kw when busy. Getting a fast charging battery today isn't that exciting. Maybe 5 years later when they're all upgraded.
300 Wh/kg is impressive and industry leading.
Hopefully they license the tech to big manufacturers able to scale it, and not get sucked into manufacturing themselves.
Ask an eBiker: speed kills range. Want to go 400 mi between recharges? *Drive sane.*
Any time a EV battery related topic is reported on it triggers both the Range trolls and Grid trolls.
Bored car dealers mostly.👍🏽
Ionity is big in Europe and charges at 350kW
Ten minutes its fast enough to make you wait near the car but slow enough to make it boring
And how about pre-conditioning and charging speed at low temperatures?
Sam: can’t say how important this is in Australia but in the Northeast US? Not so much. The physical charging infrastructure is still far too limited. Using Boston as an example, it is extremely difficult to charge one’s battery once you get 50+ miles outside Boston. Was at a party last weekend and charging was the focus of a significant conversation…and the consensus was people won’t buy full EV cars until the charges are built (past tense) Try driving into frigid ski country with a 300-400 mile round trip every weekend. EVs are not an option.
"driving into frigid ski country with a 300-400 mile round trip every weekend" Why not every day? I mean if you're going to confabulate a BS story go to the max.
@@hwirtwirt4500 Sorry you don’t like a genuine comment…we drive up to Northern NH approx. 40 weekends a year. I am excited as one can be to buy a new EV, but can’t do it without better charging infrastructure. THAT is what I was sharing with SAM…not some troll.
@@johnchicago1 You're a typical range troll, same BS different day.
The faster you charge a battery the quicker it deteriorates. That's just chemistry.
Best let them know your findings as they seem to have missed that test.
EV battery maker StoreDot says its silicon-dominant battery cells are the world’s first to achieve more than 2,000 consecutive extreme fast charging (XFC) cycles.
StoreDot says its battery cells maintained over 80% of their initial capacity, meaning EV drivers can fast charge their cars in minutes daily without worrying about battery health.
That's wrong.
Nope! LFP
Every charge station will need a nuclear reactor.
Can this chemistry charge to 100% or discharge down zero with no energy loss, like LiFePo4? (Granted, number of cycles/ longevity still unstated, if I heard correctly.). IMHO, this ability is a key factor affecting not only practical usable range (if you carefully go from 20% to 80%, you immediately give up 40% of potential range) but also affects resale value, since the variable of the previous owner's care in charging patterns gets eliminated by a chemistry that can stand up to any levels.
Question is can this battery can be produced at scale for a reasonable cost?
Cost and reliability are unknown but what a cool future. That's a 10 min charge
It takes ten seconds to plug in at home 🤷♂️😊
How many charging cycles will it have...they must have some idea?
Polestar 5 Gotta get starten 2024 or start of 2025. This car gonna change the car. Polestar 4 is Also Beutiful!!
There you go, mate
This company has never made a commercial product. Joke of a company.
Which company? Storedot? They seem to make it for Polstar now.
@@alexandruilea915 Yes, Storedot. Look at their history since they started in 2016. Nothing commercial yet...they teamed up with Polestar but I doubt that anything will come of it. Of course, there is always the first time.
It's possible they could license the technology to a manufacturer it it really works as claimed.
That's what we all said about Tesla 10 years ago.
@@briancaos Very true but you really have to wonder what is going on at Tesla...fire 14K people ...sales down...fire entire charging division...release a rather toxic statement from Elon himself. Interesting times for sure.
Isn't energy density in Wh/kg and power density in W/kg? Which figures were compared in the video? (Actually these would be per litre otherwise should be specific energy or specific power but hey!)
10 min to 80% is not fully charged, plus the Israeli battery company has yet to put a working battery in the wild.
70% isn’t it? 10-80%
@@cnewto12 correct
I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m surprised you didn’t claim 1000 miles on a signal 10 min charge….
Great news
Stress testing Tesla FSD V12 is getting difficult...
AI DRIVR
10 minutes to full--Don't think so. More like 70% charge from a 10% start point to 80%. I can't wait for the 1mW charger! Noone seems to discuss power distribution to feed chargers. Thats your problem.
Polestar 5 “out at the end of this year” (2024)? Everything I’ve seen indicates a late 2026 release.
This is just a trial. Nothing to indicate readiness for mass production yet.
Like I predicted, 3 new batteries per year for the next decade. It's going to blow your mind. I can't wait to laugh about how lame my old Tesla is. Like I did about my 90s PC.
stordot .... the company that is owned by a mobile phone supplier Simon Litsyn .... and has share holders in the form of BP, Daimler, Samsung, TDK, Vingroup, Ola Electric, Samsung, TDK, EVE Energy, Volvo, Polestar....
well considering BP are dropping out of the EV charging market and the renewables after loosing billions ....will this battery ever exist?
More lithium batteries. My Pilbara shares are safe.
EV battery chargers are sprouting like weeds.
The major problem is grid infrastructure being able to handle peak demand. Not just daily average. But during peak travel season such as holidays and sporting events and concerts.
Storage on the spot for main chargers to have an energy buffer. That being said, when everyone is on the road they don't need AC at home so it compensates.
Gravity energy storage at every fast charging station this is future :)
It's ok, we don't have spotting events here in Australia.
@@lesnypatrol7292 That will greatly increaase the cost of charging stations and that cost passed on to consumers, negates one of the chief advantage of EVs which is cheaper charging cost compared to filling up gasoline. If charging costs similar or more to refuelling, then what do you think will do to EV demand?
@@i6power30 How do you know cost of average gravity storage unit :)
I want a 200kWh battery so I never have to a charging station. Also V2G so can run my house at night.
I want Jessica Alba 💋
@larryc1616 20 yrs ago perhaps, but surely not now?
@@larryc1616Get in line
Then stay off the naughty list 🎅
V2H you mean.
Game changer 😂😂
Viking: What's great about the present situation is the whole world is working on better batteries for evs....The ice people know it's their dawn of death.....
Cost of safety?
Pity for anyone who doesn't even own a car, let alone an ev who picks up the tab to pay for the infrastructure to provide all that juice. Lets not even go there with the green credentials
..... If you had a charging infrastructure to actually charged with maybe.... There be no range anxiety...... Nobody but Tesla has put any money into any infrastructure... There's no 1,000 kilowwatt fast chargers out there.....
Almost as good as Nio’s 3m swap with 650 mile range
Haha, and how much is this car costing that charges from 10% to 80% in 10 minutes? All talk no battery!!
Wonder what contributions philastine will be giving to the world.
The word philistine is a person who is hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts, or who has no understanding of them.
@@hwirtwirt4500 It's also the way the Arab people pronounce the land next to Israel because their is no P sound in Arabic.
@@jhunt5578 If It's the name of a person, place or thing it should be capitalized. The meaning of philistine and Philistine are different. One is a citizen (the latter) the other a fool.
Geely are good
What, high density battery in road ready EVs by non-Tesla is not a game changer but better plastic window frames on Teslas is a game changer !!?!?
Range anxiety is real.
Looking forward to EVs with over 500 miles of range.
I just need enough range for 3 hours of road trip driving, so 200-250 miles, but I do need a lot of charging station options and fast charging, such as replenishing those 200-250 miles in 10 minutes such as this battery
@@GraysonAmine does it in 30 min. Takes over 3h to drive for batteri to reach 5-10% then go fast charge it for 30min and eat and chill and then go on and drive another 3h. Its great! But in Sweden and Moreau where i drive Also there is chargers all over
@@andreasl4507 My Genesis GV60 can charge 10%-80% in 18 minutes, but that 70% is only 140 miles in the winter and at highway speed. I would definitely want 200-250 miles in 10 minutes for my next car.
Then when they do you'll be looking for a six hundred mile range then when that's a thing you'll want a 700 mile range etc etc etc.
@@metricstormtrooper I want what I want. Not what you tell me I want.
This company has announced several “breakthrough” products in the past 12 years, none of them resulted in a marketable product. All Lithium batteries are constrained by the Laws of Physics and tinkering with the chemistry can only produce marginal improvements.
Stordot can go jump, the polestar needs to learn how to design rear windows first.
Nah, rear windows is not needed...
Hello mate
So what has quantum scape have? They seem like a turtle
10 minutes? That means when my friend driving in front of me gets there i'll still be 11 miles away. No thanks!
Just wonder what the life of these batteries will be??
Fast charging kills the batteries.....
Is this true?!?
Faster than filling a tank of petrol and then having to go pay for it I wonder what Volvo is thinking about Polestar ?
Volvo is dumping Polestar. I just sold my Volvo to Polestar shares.
Aren't Volvo and Polestar both owned by Geeley
@@chriswhiteman5817 yes. Volvo is trying to get rid of both and be Swedish again.
Ok, You’re not filling an EV in 10 minutes to 100 percent though…. Try that in under an hour with any EV. It still has a ways to go to beat petrol filling
Come on 1000km range on a 100 kwh battery. Not trustworthy in such a large car.
USELESS again stating power as energy density. Sam does not understand what he is talking about.
Energy density is what you need to focus on.
@larryc1616 that's what he said😊
I can refuel my car from 10-80% in 1 minute.
Getting a battery from a genocidal state, boycott them
F-Israel
Boycott Israel
You are so wrong.
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Your wrong.
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Should we buy our batteries from Hamas???
@@nickv8816 better
I farted
Bulls Shit! 10 minutes to 80% then another 45 minutes to 100%!
Tesla Viking, your ignorance is infectious 😂
No one wants an electric car.
No one wants a 60 IQ but you're stuck with one.
Hahahaha, ridiculous...........
BDS
It's an Israeli company? That's too bad. I would've liked a fast charging EV.
Wrong country of origin...NEVER!
Should we buy one from Hamas scientists?
@@Cyrus1985 that is called _false alternative_