Road Test the Weigh Safe Weight Distribution Hitch! Part 2 of 2
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I strongly suspect this truck and trailer combination would have performed identically with just about any hitch. The trailer is small enough that it just isn’t stressing the truck at all even with the wind. I do see a negative to the extra length here. Because you haven’t changed the geometry of the connection with this hitch that extra length means that it’s likely to be worse at sway control because you now have a longer moment arm pushing on the truck when the trailer sways.
You hit the nail on the head when talking about the weight of the cargo and people. I hear folks say all the time, why get a 3/4 ton when my 1/2 ton tows 11k or 12 k. Most 1/2 tons are maxed out with a small trailer, a full toolbox and 4 grown adults. I decided a long time ago that a 1/2 ton was worthless for me. Fine for folks that never tow or just use the truck for hauling light stuff but I’d rather have more truck than I need then need more truck than I have.
Your videos should be mandatory to watch when people buy trailers and trucks. You tell it straight. Great review of the hitch. I have their aluminum 2.5” and have been debating upgrading my wdh to this
Learning a lot watching your videos. We are on the verge of buying our first RV Trailer and your videos have really given us a lot to consider and do/not do. Thanks!
Should go watch “keep your daydream” too if you’re looking for camping mark and trish have a awesome channel all on camping!!
@@kevinmoran864 Thanks. I stumbled across them a few weeks back and have been watching their stuff ever since. I have a LOT to learn still.
Stainless on stainless binding is no joke. Glad they put grease fittings on it!
Nice to see this type of testing video. It would've been a great opportunity to highlight setting your trailer brake gain on a new trailer - maybe a future video idea?
Good tip on how to correct sway - thanks for explaining that!
Thanks for taking the time to do the video & info. Your right most dealers won’t explain this very important fact.😎
Great advice. My dad said the same thing, to give gas, and pull the trailer brake. Definitely felt sway on last trip, but it was mostly because we over packed the trailer and was not distributed as well in the camper. After pulling over and checking my wife's work, I just moved everything inside to be better centered. Way better.
I got one of these hitches last week for my 2019 F150 Raptor and a open vehicle trailer. I figured the expense was especially worthwhile for a truck like mine that doesn’t have a huge payload capacity. I was amazed that once set up the truck went back to almost level. I like the peace of mind that comes from knowing everything is within designed parameters
Something to keep in mind on the Weigh Safe, the Heavyweight hitch shows, "Not compatible with Jayco (Underslung) Trailers". Assuming the video is based on the Middleweight.
Watching the emergency breakaway cable flopping on the ground while it’s going down the road is concerning.
I'm glad you made this video. It represents Safety, and is Great. I'm 44(so far), and have seen plenty of unsafe things and even accidents. In my opinion, these Accidents were from Lack of Awareness and Safety. Good job, thanks.
Just bought this for my 27 foot toyhauler. Was suprised to find my tounge weight was 1,600 hundred pounds on an 8,500 trrailer. When I do not have any toys in there. Use this for a lot of regular camping on top of taking the razor out. Realized I cannot have my gray and black water tanks full. Also had 200 pounds stored in the front storage compartment that I have now moved to the back. Loosing that weight and using the weight distribution got me close to level.
Would like to see this with a 25’ to 26’ foot camper.
I agree. Mine is 37 pin to tail
I have this hitch setup. I have a 2011 Silverado 2500HD that's lifted 8" on 37" tires. My toy Hauler is a 2013 Fuzion 300 and weighs just under 9K lbs. dry weight, @ 35 feet in length. This hitch is phenomenal. It makes setting your trailer a breeze and knowing what your actual tongue weight is, is a great bit of information. No sway or front end bounce when towing.
I tow a 2021 palomino Solaire 243bhs and it’s 27” from pin to tail. The weigh safe works great. It’s easy to hook and easy to unhook. I leave the bars attached to the receiver and just fold them towards the truck. Save a lot of back breaking and makes it much faster.
I love this hitch. They did a great job with it. Doubt I will make the investment to upgrade at this point, but I like it a lot. Currently have the Husky set up which is pretty basic, but seems to work ok. I also don’t need the exotic weight distribution with the 2017 f350 and my trailer set up.
Being able to dial in the exact weight needed is a real game changer in WDH choices IMO.
Hello JD. Thank you very much for this great wdh video! One of the other youtube channels, Wandering Weekends, just did a hitch competition and this hitch came in a very close 2nd place. The winner was the Propride, which is way out of my price range. So, I will order one of these!
Safe travels!
Like I said in your video when you received this hitch. I can't wait until you install it. I was so excited to watch these 2 videos. You answered most of my questions about how we installed ours and how we use it. I was very happy to see that we installed ours just like you did. I still have one Big question. What if the app tells you to set the the distribution weight to something higher than the distribution tongue weight on the sticker of the underneath of the hitch on the truck? This was a question I am also planning on taking to Weight Safe about.
You really should have CAT scaled the set up. The setting of the hitch weight to 1300# was very confusing until you pointed out that the weight was being transferred to the front axle of the truck. However, your estimate of 600# on the hitch should have been confirmed with a CAT scale measurement of all axles and all weights. That way the story would have been complete. But thanks for the video. Installing one of these things is NOT simple...BTW - what happens when you load the trailer and the truck to actually go somewhere? It would be interesting to see the adjustments that need to be made to the hitch and then do a complete CAT scale to see what the final numbers are. Just a thought...
I found my 2021 z71 pulling a trailer dry whight 62oo full8200 a5.3 it was sceeming keep it three months traded it for a 250 supper 6.2 im glad I did I toke a 6000 dollar hit but I know I made the right choice now I feel safe as you herd in this picture the half truck is screaming staying sgutin and chowing down ⛽ the prof is in the video
I agree with safety first, please remember not all half ton has the same tow capabilities. This one you guys have is 3 years old. I own a new half a ton with bigger brakes sistem, bigger engine and better transmission 10 speed. This you said is capable of pulling 11,000 lbs, the one I own with the advantage tow package 📦 is ratings for 15,000 lbs and longer wheel bases . I also own 3/4 tons, one ton, Don't matter which equipment you drive always needs the ability and experience and expertise to understand that always safety first. Always make sure you has the right tires. This new half ton they really are 2/4 ton, I respect everyone opinión, Thank you always for your excellent advice. 🙏
1/2 = 2/4 do you mean the new 1/2 tons are like the old 3/4 tons of the past? I would disagree since the payload of the old 3/4 ton trucks are higher than the new 1/2 ton trucks but 1/2 ton trucks have come a long way.
I just mentioned the new specification from the manufacturer, this number are from factory 🏭 .I feel very comfortable pulling safe with a new 2/4 tons they're capable, bigger brakes, more transmission torque, engine horse 🐎 power. I have friends with those all 3/4 tons, and they makes comments that they have to add air suspension because they are weak. They are different new 3/4 tons, not all are the same with differents towing power. I understand is are disagree, this is from factory 🏭
Any concern with the leverage this hitch would put on the receiver with a heavy trailer and tongue weight?
Big safety issue. The way you extended the safety chains and have them hooked risks loading the gates of the hook especially on the driver side. The gate is the weakest point of those hooks and must never be loaded, should the trailer become disconnected for any reason while under way you have set up the hook to be a failure point and this is not safe.
Keep in mind that the loops were also connected at an equal length section of chain, which means that the chain hooks would be at full tension before the gates of the hook would give. There is a greater likelihood of the vehicles chain mounts breaking before the setup we used failing.
Very nice hitch. One concern is the 'L' pins, holding the trunnions in place look a little small, only covering 1/2 the trunnion at times
Thanks for showing me how it goes I like the weigh safe distribution hitch been thinking about getting one for my tt
Thank you! I am beginning to understand the weight info the more i hear it. I think i might be over...now. will check. My ebars fell off this summer 4x and i had sway that i never had before.. after a repair. I also really appreciated your explained corrective braking. I did that when i had trouble . I have it scheduled to be adjusted. I can see now that the hitch has actually moved. Trouble is that i must drive 3 hrs to get it fixed. Cannot prove they screwed it up, so will have to pay for it. Just want to get into a 5th wheel and get rid of this trailer and truck. Big jump between want to and getting to!
I have two questions - newbie here - why didn't you measure the weight with the chains? Those are heavy. And isn't ground clearance with that hitch part with the ball on it a concern? A good pot hole and seems to me the thing would hit the ground. It's one thing to clear your tail gate which isn't absolutely nessessary but hitting that on the ground would jack up the whole system wouldn't it? Oops that's 3 questions - sorry.
The dealer ships, RV and Truck dealers, will tell you anything to move a vehicle. You have to do your own homework. This hitch seems to be the best one in the class and worth the extra ya have to fork out for it over the Curt/Blue OX/Reese/Equalizer version. Nice look at it.. thanks 👍
I would also have appreciated seeing how this performs when backing up. With this hitch do you have to disconnect the sway bars before backing? Or does it back fine into tight spaces with the sway bars still in place?
Too bad you couldn't go on a two lane highway with semi's coming at you in the other lane. Real good test for these systems.
Wow for a small trailer it's got some good weight.
I have to wonder what a tire blow out would feel on a single axle at 60MPH. I really like the little trailer but there's trailers (Winnebago Micro Minnie) that weigh the same but have double torflex axles that give a huge weight CCC to the trailer. I would really consider this hitch for any trailer I bought though. I wonder how having the trailer sitting further back would increase or decrease the trailers leverage in a sway situation. They did bring up a great point about increasing speed "a touch" to get out of a sway. 40 years ago when I was being taught how to drive semi trucks in the winter we were told to "take" control of the trailer when going into a jack knife situation by using the tractors hand brake for the trailer while giving the tractor a little gas to straighten things out. It works, I pulled everything from 28ft to 53 ft trailers......never jack knifed all the way. There were a couple of times I could see the side of the trailer in the mirror but the give fuel and give trailer brake prevented a bad situation.
Can you back up with the WDH attached or do you have to remove the bars before backing up?
I have found out in the past when you unhitch a boat, utility trailer you should undo the chains first before you disconnect the hitch. I've had these items roll on me and undoing the chains can be sometimes a mess.
The second time out the pin that hold the ball on sheared off. Very scary
I wonder if it actually tows better than without the weight distribution hitch? We’ll never know;(
This hitch does NOT work with most Jayco Trailers. In fact the trailer you are showing is one of the trailers it should not be used with. ( I called Weigh Safe when we had lots of sway during a 1500 mile trip, and that is when they informed me that they have had "failures" with Jayco trailers. )
Would like to see how it does backing into a tight camping site.
Thanks for video. Can’t wait for my setup to be done. Quick question, if you are going to backup into a camping spot or park the RV in the back yard. Do you need to take off the sway arms off for better turning radius?
Would love to see something similar with a 3/4 ton or 1 ton and a large TT!
Yea most dealers just want to sell you a camper nice hitch I like the scale in the hitch I looked it up 1000. Dollars
Great video, I have the new Weigh Safe WDH on order. I think it may have been worthwhile to baseline the trailer tongue weight using the eTrailer scale you use in your other videos just for comparison purposes. I have both products now and I am hoping to become much better at setting proper tongue weight on the fly. I have an Equalizer that has served us well but no real on the fly adjustability is a huge deal.
Surprised that trailer isn't a dual axle at that weight
I bought one of these hitches. I have less than 100 miles on it and one side is wearing heavily where the spring bar pivots at the hitch. Did you notice any extreme wear with your setup? The manufacturer told me it's normal, but it's a greased surface and no other friction point has any visible wear, greased or dry. It's just these two greased surfaces that are grinding into each other rapidly wearing away the metal after just one short trip. I put some pictures of the problem on irv2. User name primemover.
I bought one, haven't used it yet, and I'm pretty sure that the WDH is heavier than the tongue weight of that whole single axle trailer. It seems well built but it also seems like it was designed by a solid model designer and not an ME.
What's that supposed to mean? (says the solid model designer)
Yeah I wanted the aluminum hitch they have for weight savings. But thinking it will be smarter to just buy their WDH to further proof
Gonna order 1 shortly thank you
I pull my Keyston, 7600 gross weight capacity, with a 1/2 ton, (9800, tow cap,) use my weight dist. always, at 90% cap. of towing; and about 90% on payload, (hitch, cargo, etc,) but on top of that! I hqve always, installed airbags, to my trucks, that's where the difference is!!! know how to use airbags, that is my opinion,
Airbags?
It seems like an interesting setup but I've heard a lot of problems with the gauge busting often
I love this hitch!! But to find dealers for it seems to be the problem. Even Etrailer doesn't sell the complete WDH. Must be a newer company? This was a good vid about a good product.
There's a link in the description and amazon also carries it. (I just checked for myself lol)
@@danjones0212 Thanks Daniel! :)
Be interesting to see if they come out with a 5th wheel version that shows the weight on your hitch.
I live in Alabama, guess I’ll have to come to Corpus Christie to buy a RV
Will that break away carabiner stay on that part that slid out? Guessing inside diameter or carabiner is smaller than the outside stop.
Oh yeah. It was the hitch pin and the clip wouldn't come off
How would this hitch compared to something like Hensley or Propride in terms of sway control?
I also have several Weigh Safe hitches. They do not stand behind their
products or the engineering of them. Sad, because this could be a great
product. I contacted them in regard to a 3 year old product, and they
told me that they don't support it. WHAT????? Would not recommend to
anyone !!!
I have the same hitch on my rv and I don't think the mechanic has it set up wright and I'm not sure how to check it to see
How about doing a review of a Winnebago Micro Minnie???? Would be VERY appreciated.
Not to bad set-up time.
good 411 , but i have a question have you ever done a review on the bull dog style hitch coupler vs the standard coupler that is found on most r-vs and light duty trailers ?
Two best hitches I have used is for the price the husky centerline HD which is very hard to find now. Also my current hitch which isn’t price effective but a absolute pleasure is the Pro Pride P3
Gas trucks need to rev to pull leave the transmission in a lower gear if it’s a 6 speed probably leave it in 5th don’t let it go into overdrive and shift back-and-forth that’s a really good to kill a transmission
So can you back up with this set up?
With the additional distance added to length of hitch, does that prevent a trucks built in backup assistant pro package from functioning?Does it push the required sticker outside of maximum distance?
Seems much, much quieter than the Equal-i-zer.
Is this a 2022 166FBS? The dial appeared to be above 600 TW in the first video. I’m concerned because I’m an idiot. I just found this video while researching hitches, but I bought this camper yesterday and my 2022 4Runner TR/TW is rated at 5000/500. The listed TW of this vehicle is 445 so I thought I’d be fine if we stayed conservative on loading the trailer, but now I’m very concerned after watching this video.
wonder if this truck is a 5.3 or 6.2 also what difference would that make as far as the feeling in acceleration and uphill towing. just wondering because i have a 2017 with a 6.2 and 8 speed trans with a standard 6.5ft. bed instead of short bed.
The brackets go 27 to 32 inches back from the ball. Right now my Reese Recurve 6 is at 27 inches. This is not a good hitch so I just received the True Tow. I could play with the box I have mounted behind the propane tanks and make the bracket be at 32 inches. Would that be better (as a longer lever)?
What is the brand of that rubber cap for the trailer ball?
At the camp sites, I usually take the hitch off and lock it into a small receiver I mounted on the Rv rear bumper. I will take it apart (draw bar and hitch head). Since it it heavy, I am using a steel rod in the holes on the draw bar. It will hold the hitch head about where I need it and not let it fall down while I get the double pins installed.
Great video, thanks.
Step 4 of the installation in the True Tow owners manual states” securing the trailer brackets at the 32 inch mark will put the least amount of stress on the trailer and hitch providing the safest tow”
You can down load the app which has the install instructions
Just checked out the hitch. 1k for the one I would get but, I can get a 2.5" shank 😀
Would you want to put some kind of lubricant on those bars so they don’t have friction metal against metal ?
100% that break away will fall off lol
What is the purpose of the drawbar being so long?
In the setup shown did you use the 6-in drop or 8-in drop version of the weigh safe? I have an F-150 and I'm looking at getting a trailer pretty much that size and weight. I am doing my homework into weight distribution hitches now, and 6 in or 8 in is one of the factors you have to choose when ordering this hitch. Which one did you use in this video?
I have a 2013 F150 Super Crew 5’-6” Bed (2WD) and just purchased the WSWD6-2 True Tow Weight Distribution Hitch with Tongue Weight Guage & 6” drop length with 2” shank size. I am towing a 16’ tandem enclosed cargo with Gross Trailer Weight of 4,000 lbs. If you have 2 wheel drive pickup the 8” is way too big. I had to install the 6”draw bar in the rise position with the weight distribution head assembly attached all the way down into bottom holes of the 6” draw bar for the trailer to be level (the tail gate still opens with the 6” draw bar inverted upwards on my truck). I will be towing from TX to FL but have not tried it out yet
In the video he uses a 6” draw bar
That is a nice hitch , how do you calculate your hitch weight? Is it 600lbs or 1300lbs?
I was thinking the same. 1300 would put him close to the payload capacity with bodies and gear.
I kept saying to myself shift shift gees is'nt it going to shift.................
Ditch the V8, get and Ecoboost
Please help me understand. I don't see anything about this hitch that controls sway.
Sway control is applied via downward pressure from the spring bars on the L brackets. This creates friction, as well as compression, which helps control the trailers ability to hinge against the truck
SS will gall up the threads if not greased and ruin both parts.
Very informative. Well done
Should you lube the pivot points of the bars?
No sir. Those are friction points by design. Equalizer does it that way as well.
You should do some videos like this with the ProPride hitch
Yeah throw a pro pride on it!!!!
I thought about buying a 1/2 ton and the propride hitch, but can’t commit to spend thousand $$$ on the hitch. So I sent more on the truck and got a 3/4 ton and used a regular WDH.
@@nicolathonathan770 that works also. Really should have a WDH when towing over 5000 lbs with any 1/2 ton truck.
@@highpro1394 I still use a WDH with sway control when towing with the F250. It’s just a cheaper version call Husky centerline. Just a pain in the rear to setup each time.
@@highpro1394 Any time your trailer weighs more than 1/2 your tow capacity is the general rule to use a WDH BUT I would use a WDH/anti sway with everything to be as safe as possible plus just to know I have done everything the right way.
That hitch is WAY overkill for that small camper.
Man, your safety chain setup is totally wrong. The hooks on the new chain are not supposed to be pulled in that direction. You are bulling against the chain retaining flap. LOL! Engineer?
So the truck has a 1600 and change payload and you just put 1300 or so on it. Who’s going to drive and be able to take 2 adults along? Maybe I’m calculating wrong?
1300lbs were distributed. About 400lbs on the hitch when setup properly.
@@BigTruckBigRV so 1300 was distributed from where? Aren’t you still like only 300 short of max payload without a driver and fuel then? I’m with you in all the set up and such. Just confused what the actual payload is being used from the trucks max of 1600
@@wildeman7443 I’m confused as well. Measuring on a CAT scale would answer I think. Isn’t the 1300 distributed over the entire truck/trailer setup?
Seems like a little bit to big of a trailer for that half ton.
How does this compare to the E4?
Similar is design and function in terms of weight distribution and Sway functionality.
@@BigTruckBigRV Thank you sir! We are getting ready for our first tt and I had planned on going with the E4 but after seeing both videos I think I'll be getting this one instead. There's alot to be said about having that scale built in and the assurance of having the right tongue weight and distribution.