What is this new method of producing solar electricity?
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- This is one of my solar heaters. We can see that it looks like this my solar station which turns solar energy into heat for space heating this house in the winter and for heating the water of this pool in the summer. In addition, we might think that it is similar to this type of solar power plants. I remind you that these mirrors focus solar radiation into this receiver, where the radiation is converted into thermal energy at nearly 400 ºC, which produces steam to generate electricity.
My mirror also focuses the solar radiation that forms this spot, and now I temporarily set a white screen here so that the spot can be seen better.
More than a hundred of these solar power plants have already been built, and for example, this power plant cost about $ 2,000,000,000. But these power plants use very expensive solar heaters with a total construction cost of several hundred dollars per square meter. At the same time our solar heaters should be 10…15 times cheaper, and therefore they can give us very cheap thermal energy, the cost of which we can calculate very approximately by this formula. Here we see that this formula requires a reduction in the cost of our solar heat to a level of 0.5 cent / kWh, and it is approximately 10 times cheaper than the cost of heat from natural gas.
This cheap heat can be used to generate electricity at this cost, 5 cent / kWh, and this formula was explained in this my recent video. The conversion of our cheap heat into electricity is done by steam turbines and heat storages which provide the production of solar electricity not only when the sun is shining, but also at night and on non-solar days.
So, each of us will come to a similar design of a solar heater if you persistently and fanatically implement the idea of maximum simplicity and a minimum of elements. This simplicity causes our solar heater to become very cheap and provide cheap thermal energy which can be converted into electricity that is cheaper than electricity from thermal and nuclear power plants
Now I remind you that those expensive solar heaters must constantly turn according to the movement of the sun across the sky, and usually they are placed perpendicular to this East-West line. Unlike them, the solar heaters of my solar station are parallel to the East-West line. That is why their mirrors may not turn during the day because solar radiation from my motionless mirrors enters this receiver for most of the day, except perhaps in the morning and evening.
But a slight adjustment to the receiver location can be helpful, and therefore my new solar heater has this simple and cheap system for changing the position of the receiver. In addition, several times a year we have to change the vertical angle of the mirrors, and now I show how I do it at my solar station. We see that this is a simple and quick operation, although the salaries of workers will slightly increase the operating costs of our solar power plants.
In addition, let's pay attention to this shadow from this receiver, and we see that the shadow is located between the upper and lower mirrors. The shadow of the receiver of these expensive solar heaters is also located here, in the middle of the mirrors.
At the same time, the shadow in the case of this new solar heater should be located here, below the mirrors. This is the shadow of this receiver, and we can see that the shadow moves when we change the position of the receiver. I plan to make a separate video describing this type of solar heater and its differences from these types with the location of the shadow in the middle of their mirror surface.
In addition, I am planning to make another video where I will analyze the perspectives of this type of mirror which is a sheet of cheap stainless steel of this mark.
Perhaps also I will make other videos that will analyze other types of cheap mirrors, for example, such a mirror which is a reflective polymer film on a sheet of expanded polystyrene.
Thank googlegod for the subtitles... This guy has a potato in his mouth or something.
Regardless, this is a very clever use of engineering.
The most impressive solar energy solution I ever saw was an old man boiling water for tea in an kettle in front of a parabolic mirror that had been hand-pounded out of scrap metal. I'm sure the efficiency was terrible, but the simplicity, availability and cost was kind of mind-blowing.
Здравствуйте, сергей , у нас есть поддерживаемый государством проект по получению соли из озера в Турции. мы хотим использовать параболические тепловые котлы. Можете ли вы поделиться контактным адресом, необходимым для связи с вами. спасибо.
I think trying to turn this energy into electricity might be the wrong step. Thermal solar struggles because converting heat to electricity is a very lossy process especially below 300c which is really hard to hit at cost.
This is a mistake because electricity is a compromise energy that is just ok at cheap generation, just ok at transmission, and just ok at converting into any other form of energy that you actually WANT.
I think this tech works extremely well in synergy with green electricity because half of all energy use is creating heat at temperatures that simple mirrors already naturally produce, so its best use case it for extremely cheap production of heat directly at the source for, and it can be extremely cheap to store if you're doing it at even small scales.
These can be rolled out EXTREMELY quickly, eliminating the majority of green house gas emissions almost overnight. If heat can be taken care of by these, than green electricity generation, storage, and transmission becomes VASTLY easier, and can be done over time, as technology matures better.
I would Run a liquid of your choosing, through the system with a DC pump and run the lines under or around a building or greenhouse to keep it warmer
your posts are amazing!
I'm just a hobbiest in Australia who likes to stumble around with whatever... i'm F@#$+NG glad I stumbled over you.🤯😁
This absolutely bypasses the need for toxic metals like gallium and germanium and the mining of them by unprotected children. Current solar panels used in the USA are brittle, easily broken by hail and storms. Also they are plugged into grids which still charge the homeowner both to BE plugged in and for electricity. The heated water and steam can be used directly in the home. So some panels can be used solely for that purpose then other panels for making electricity using stem and magnets. Turbines.
Do you have any equipment that generates electricity from your csp? This seems to be the major stumbling block for people.
В чем прикол одно и то же рассказывать и показывать?
It will keep it current. Ho ho.
Это будет поддерживать актуальность. Хо хо.
Another great idea. Do you have any recommendations or links to an affordable steam generator that turns the heated steam into electricity?
It’s not quite on the market yet but we’ve gotten 4.25 kW continuous just from compressed air with a Tesla Turbine: www.TesTurEnergy.com
Stay tuned to our RUclips channel for more updates as we test future prototypes made from higher quality materials, stress/endurance test, remove inefficiencies and admit steam to the system.
ruclips.net/user/CharlieSolis
Stirling engines are used in industrial power production as a highly robust and relatively efficient bang for the buck. I think you can justify an inefficient generator with such cheap reflector and tracking
I just subscribed to your channel. I look forward to your future detailed instructions on how we can build a setup like the one you have with the total cost savings. Please kindly list all the materials etc that one needs to buy to try to duplicate what you are doing.🙏
Idk, is it a great idea, what with all these mirrors pointing at the sun, let's hope we don't frazzle our atmosphere and cause a mega-drought, like prize jerks?
What you need to do.is urn the steam to mechanical energy, usually rotational.
You could useceither a steam engine, or turbine.
You'll also need a condenser system to quickly return the steam to condensate to cycle back through the steam generator.
This is not a small project - for a home system it would not be cost effective
Also, working with steam under pressure is far more dangerous than solar panels.
This is not a new idea, and pilot plants have operated for years.
Why isn't this more common that solar panels?
Did you test the mirrorsystem with evacuated solar tubes? I live in Norway and I wonder how much heat this would generate during winter. My plan is to install 90 evacuated tubes(2 meters) on my south facing wall at an angle of 70 degrees, connected to a 500 liter insulated water tank inside my house. This should partly heat my house and give me hot water all year.
I suspect many of us want to see how it works with commercial evacuated tubes
Maybe we should chip in and get Sergiy some :)
In combination with Sand as thermal battery a very interesting idea
My thoughts exactly.. you can just store heat during the day and use when needed.
Will that work in the winter?
Thank God we don't have winters like yours here in Brasil. 🙏
Here in Ceará - Brasil always 32°C , sumer or winter always 24 to 32°C.
I tried one of ur ideas once but it melted my pan, aluminum pan 😡
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If you melted your pan it mean it work bro
great work as always Sergiy.
I have some similar home built collectors as well, go check them out on my channel if you can, Stainless steel is my favourite reflector type, cheap, strong, long lasting and fully recyclable, my Stainless steel reflectors are still perfect after nearly 6 years of outdoor use.
Subbed and will check it out. Thanks Bob.
A fantastic solution. What about a cheap bicycle dynamo being turned by the steam charging a capacitor in line with a voltage regulator and a rechargeable battery? Thanks.
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Sergiy, these videos are amazing. I've been pondering building a miniaturized version of some of your examples and I'm getting close. Thank you I hope to see some more new videos. I'd be curious to see what you are doing for cheap evacuated tubes manufacture. Maybe repurpose tubes from an amplifier or something. That won't work but. I'm always flipping back to this channel. Great resource.
This is the reason why WEF wants every1 on the grid.
Brilliant! Thank you and may you be blessed for sharing your engenious and industrious work with the people who need it most. You may be interested in the work of Robert Murray-Smith (The World of TnT on RUclips) who is currently exploring the ability of fluorescent and prismatic modifications to solar panels to increase their efficiency by allowing maximum absorbing of light regardless of their physical angle to the sun. I hope you find this interesting and perhaps helpful...
"Cheer mate" ^^
Robert Murray-Smith - 1643 How To Make A Parabolic Mirror. ruclips.net/video/xs2zNqKtIbs/видео.html
I appreciate the idea and would like to try this idea, but .50 - which is 50 cents isn't the same as .05 - which is 5 cents. Maximum cost per KW/h in homes in the USA currently from the grid is about is about 14 cents - which is 0.14 per KW/h... That's for sharing, just wanted folks to take a moment first.
There must be something wrong with this method - otherwise many other people would be using it. But I can see nothing wrong with this idea.
Sergiy,
This video made my day. Thank you for posting. Now time to watch it. 🙏
Now link it to a underground line and let the water condense and close the loop.
Love your videos 👌👌 could you explain a bit more about how to connect the hot water container to the turbine? I have a some questions about it. For example, I imagine that in order for the turbine to work there must be some kind of minimum pressure. How can this pressure be built up with an open valve? Or is there a special valve that only opens up at a minimum pressure? And do you need to put new water into the system after some time? Kind regards
I think you make the concentration to a smaller beam and use vacuum tubes because they are cheap and efficient. Then you use oil instead of water, use the oil to heat water into steam in a steam engine.
Your channel is another channel that can save the EU (and the world) this winter. Maybe not “save”, maybe more like “soften” the winter energy shock.
Your videos are interesting as always.
You mentioned at the end that the impressive blasts of steam aren't representative of what the heaters generate under normal operation. What temperatures do they normally get up to when you're running water through them?
My measurements were talking about 180-200 degrees Celsius. No a selective coating, without that transparent covering (unfortunately, it didn't add that temperature, and I plan to investigate why my monolithic polycarbonate gave this unexpectedly unpleasant result). The height of the absorber was about 12 cm, the height of the mirrors = 170 cm
@@sergiyyurko8668 Thanks!
I'm not in a position to right now, but I look forward to experimenting with this in a few years. I particularly like the experiments you've been doing with the mylar-concrete mirrors.
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The electric bill will go down while the water bill will go up...
Now, here is the question.
Practically, can you use your system at this size 24/7 with everything you need to operate in the house without failing? You know, refrigerator, air conditioner both on heating or cooling, electric blanket and this kind of things that are power hungry?
Polycarbonate will melt or yellow from such amount of light.
@@smarthalayla6397 Well, you can convert heat to electricity with a stirling generator so "yes". But only if you have enough collectors to generate enough heat.
Nikola Tesla said electricity is everywhere and free. So why are we paying for it?
It's a nice idea but I think that making it robust enough to cope with storms would add significantly to the cost of construction.
Great video as usual.
I wonder, could you aim the heat at a closed loop pipeline filled with CO² and then run that loop through a heat exchanger to store that heat in sand as they're starting to do in Finland now?
The sand is insulated in a silo and retains the heat for a very long time. This can then be 'harvested' at a point when it's required to heat homes/municipal buildings or to provide hot water.
that's what I'm planning to do for my tiny house for next winter. I got an old 500 gallon waste oil tank that I'm going to cut the top off and then put a bunch of pipes or maybe some cheap finned tube if I can find it in the tank and then fill with sand. If I keep the 'heating loop' separate from the 'recovery loop', then I can run hot air or steam through the heating loop, as well as hot gasses from our incinerator, and then use the recovery loop for fresh air only
Maybe having a huge water tank that acts as the thermal battery would be best. Take the hot water and use it during the night when it gets cold.
@@kevindouglas8768 it's about storing it for a long time...also water goes through a transition phase above 100°C which prevents it becoming hotter and retaining more and more heat as sand is able to continue to do up until some crazy hot temperatures
@@weedfreer True enough, but all I was getting at is that every time energy is transformed, it looses energy. I've seen the sand heat batteries. Incredible works.
I'm trying different reflective materials like open aluminum cans but they need some polishing. It is better to just use Mylar? My goal is to store the heat on sand or melted salt, to use it on metals and maybe casting. If I make pipes from the same material of a crucible it's possible to circulate the heat from the solar source to a sand/salt bank? Cheers from Brazil
Please share your results on youtube bro
@@civismesecret yes when i have something simplified and safe enough to share I certainly will.
It is better to make the crucible directly in the focus of the mirror.
Awesome 👍 subbed. Cheers J
Slight modification, and that can be a feed material sterilizer to use with a composting pile. It would allow you to heat wetted down weedy soils and plant material, without weeds being in the resulting mulch. It's as simple as heating that stuff up to boiling temps for a day. Given that it kills off organics by denaturing, the caveat is you need an already active compost pile to feed the cooked dirt or plant material into.
Very impressive. I look forward to the polystyrene video. I seek to use cheap reflective mylar held by spray adhesive to hot wire cut foam with computer drawn/designed parabola.
thank you
Ce n'est pas la meilleure manière pour produire de l'énergie.
You are doing great 😊
Прикольно) Англійська з українським акцентом))
2:32 can it be placed closer together? And maybe a different Design not just straight lines but more like a leaf 🌿
Hey Sergiy possible to use this on a sand battery? ie use to store the heat storage with sand?
He already has the space.. I was thinking the same. And is also (pretty) cheap to maintain and build. I'm sure that the electronic part is more difficult. Since the sand battery has some sensors and automation
What about high winds, is your solar collector protected from that, they look fragile.
I (central Ukraine) have not had a strong storm over the past 8 years (maybe there were wind gusts up to 40 m per second). I think that's the limit for the polystyrene plates of my solar station. But I think that stainless plates are able to withstand more.
Hahaha
Reminds me of
"The Space Race"
USA paid $10,000 to invent an ink pen that would write in zero-gravity
Russia - used pencils
♡ GENIOUS !
Thanks for bringing good ideas that almost anyone can access.
Bless you
This seems genius... only point - better on a flat roof, as land/soil is needet for growing food ?
Have you heard of agrivoltaics? It's basically planting crops below/adjacent to solar collectors; the crops are happier with less intense peak sunlight too.
@@jamesbrown99991 oh, jes, if not completely blocking - saw this a few days ago... in europe, in the last 3 month there have been nearly no rain - thought about growing lines of trees in the fields the way sun is reaching plantation in the morning OR the afternoon - solar collectors would be a solution as well...
your close to the pole so I'm curious as to how it would go close to the equator. like Lat 19S... Australia. any thoughts?
it gets heatier.
At the equator, it is better to use large lenses.
For me the solution is just static. Form the relatively big black metal recipient so that it would receive the most of the reflected radiation without having to move. As passive as possible. Isolate it thermally from the non-recipient size. Or even put the whole thing into a big greenhouse. Inside the recipient, create the cooling system that would bring the heat into central isolated container for the energy storage/production. For example by circulation of heat resistant mineral oil you could heat up giant heat storage unit filled with sand to several hundred degrees of Celsius. The paraboles/recipients might be on the roof of it.
When in need of electricity, you just run the water through the pipes inside the heat storage unit and make it boil and run the generators.
I find it quite ironic that we could use falling water to power everything yet we expedite our water to the oceans and burn unfathomable amounts of matter to make the water rise so we can farm the same energy much less efficiently.
The water rise is a myth..
Take a glass of water with ice cubes.
Wait the ice cubes melt.
Does the water level rised?
No because the total volume of water didn't change.
@@civismesecret wow. A level of stupid I didn't know existed.
@@civismesecret I genuinely hope your joking.
Great video, thank you for sharing!
You may want to have a look at ultra-thin tempered glass, which is bendable. It merely needs a coating on the back, and viola! You have a flexible glass mirror that won't easily oxidise in the sun.
That sounds expensive solar panel glass can be 5-10$ sqm then heat bend that, abd heat treat it. Still expensive than other options but stiff. Stainless steel sheet would just be cheaper and reflective. Even cheaper mylar glued to some bended plastic sheet.
Foil face Poly Styrene by R-TECH leaks light through my 1 1/2 inch or 2 inch sheet Bruce in Phoenix Arizona
You should look into thermal acoustic engines and refrigeration. Blade Atilla's Chanel has alot of cool little builds of sterling and thermo acoustic engines and such. You could potentially have the cheapest cogeneration solar plant out there.
Its so nice and always funny to find peoples from this channels in others i like !
Your videos are very complicated, normal person can't do it at home
You focus on the mirrors. Which of ur videos show the receptor in detail, the part that produced steam and convertsnthe steam into electricity?
I live in the UK, so this is no good and too complicated for the average man to make it all, and you need a steam turbine and generator, then a regulator, then batteries to end up with usable electricity
Could you connect the steam to a water type generator. Have a very small output for Steam concentrated on water generator teeth that will spin very fast.
Mr. Yurko, how do I store heated water in some tank for few hours?
I want to use that heated water at night for my underfloor heating.
Когда уже будет электричество? Жду самодельную паровую турбину, зима близко.
New subscriber, GREAT channel!
The Carrington Event is due to appear again and all metal wire, so all circuitry, all solar panels, will try. Your panels would not be affected, particularly the stainless steel mirror.
I have not yet viewed your videos which explain the transition from steam to power but, again, * anything * that avoids metal or circuits will be very valuable after the fact.
fry not try
how much pwer is being generated based on the mirror's surface area?
I think trying to harness enough energy from a collector that size, to power a generator would be futile. Maybe enough to power a few LED lights, but nothing of significance imho. However, I believe using that heat to make supplemental hot water for domestic use could be feasible. Or even for supplemental heat for living space might work. After all it’s kinda like peeing in the ocean... every little bit helps!
Greetings from the Philippines. Do you offer lessons on this system?
Hi, Sergiy where can I contact you? BR Bernd
Sehr gut 👍
The future of renewable energy
Thanks!
I believe they are doing east-west tracking, because they need the power-output to be as constant as possible... The true cost in this kind of system is the turbine. To keep this cost low, they make sure, to have as constant power as possible. Thus, they can optimize the turbine capacity for this amount of power.
you need solar vacuum tubes and some ac copper pipes
I was going to do was take really bright lights face them at the solar panels I know they'll charge them because my headlights my car would charge them but these are charged them at full power and use it at night or when the lights are low and it's cloudy out the charge might have my solar panels charging all night long and all day long 24 hours a day 365 days a year that's what I'm going to do where to buy facial solar panels I'm going to put mirrors in the back side of them and let the sun go through them and around them and face up at the back side of them too and charge them that way as well cuz I'm going to get bisexual solar panels too. That is my plan not the same plan you have but now you got my plan now you better do my plan as well just need really bright lights and a few of your solar panels will be able to run nails lights and your 2 million would turn into 4 million.
This is very similar to systems published in Mother Earth News a few decades ago. Glad to see they're still around.
Did you test the transparent materials opacity to light? I've seen tools that measure the opacity of safety glasses for UV and IR spectra
What about a short distance focused fresnel prism that can be used on top and sealed with high temp sealant.
Glad you’re still posting. I hope you are staying safe during the war. Did you need anything?
Great idea! The solar station for Mars!
What's your opinion on the ongoing war
DONT WORRY THE POWERS THAT BE WILL STOP YOU
Steam could be passed through a heat exchanger. Water in the secondary loop could be used to heat the home by radiators. The water temperature could be controlled by a simple electrical solenoid valve that either routes the steam through the water heat exchanger or to an out side heat sync to dump excess energy. If you wanted to add cost and complexity then instead of dumping the energy then it could be used to generate electricity. The simple version just to generate heat alone would be very useful.
LOL 🤣 watch till the end...
Great , have you calculated the mount of steam or the water consumption?
he have warm at 2 floor home.. what for you need math??
@@nin1ten1do i want to know the water evaporation amount , or water consumption.
Instead of one mirror, with one focus, how about several mirrors, each with a different focus, so as the sun moves, one focus passes and the next one takes over?
Interesting !! I guess it uses more material ..
This would take more space and material, and only a fraction of the mirror would be getting utilised, with the rest being wasted
After, in some ways it could be interesting it depends of what you heat for what needs..
For instance, if solar rays hits solar thermal battery like sodium acetate/zeolite/or sodium packs (the right size to be not too heavy to be transported in a shed for cold days/winter..) then you can turn it into an advantage....
Do you know how much eletric kw can be powered in your prototype? Thank you for the video?
Thank you for uploading your videos. Collecting the solar thermal is one thing, but have you perfected the generation of electricity? One thought is that the storage of electricity is more difficult than the storage of heat. One concept that looks interesting is the sand battery, a simple auger could be used to raise sand to a thermal head (where the sun is focus) and then gravity could let if fall back into insulated storage vessel. Since sand can be heated to 1700'c this is ample to flash water into steam for electricity generation.
Stirling engines look very interesting, but there aren't any 'solutions' for around the 500W mark.
@@mungewell because they are stupid, just use a steam engine of some sort, even a tesla engine will work, vacuum tesla engine even better
Sorry but I can't understand what you are saying. I did try hard though!
Stephen... Click on settings icon and turn on captions ... USA English. You can easily deactivate with CC button if gets annoying. Obviously he is in the Ukraine and English is not his first language.
I wonder if he knows about DIY project using the Fresnel lens from an abandoned projection color television. Mounted on a tilting wood frame you could heat water hotter than a MMW LASER.
Brilliant
Look into just buying some curved glass from a company, then maybe using it as mold for multipul mirrors.. copper pipe big enough to catch the rays painted black, turbine, retrofitted engine, with 3dprinted plastic grear assisted servos, aurduino board, camera on goldfish eye pointing upmost, Woula..
Why mirror, it is expensive, cheaper with thin sheet stainless steel held tight by a cheap wooden frame
Отличное видео.
Но английский сворачивает уши в трубочку.
Юрько Як с тобой связаться?
Do you need an endless supply of water?
In theory we can condensate it and make an almost perfect cycle but there is always some loss
Great idea. You just have to create a small power unit which produces electricity with the steam.
myth busters need to look into this.
If myth busters looked into SpaceX reusable rockets they would probably "deboonk" it too... F**K thoses guys
How Will you contact
Nice informative video
Finalmente una soluzione senza il silicio. 👍
I am very much impressed!
Did you use Asbestos as insulation?
looks like rock-wool
@@jamesbrown99991 The ROCKWOOL Technical Insulation products are based on stone wool, which cannot burn and which can stand temperatures up to 1000 degrees C without melting. So yeah, that`s it.
Rockwool can't withstand that high it burns gray then yellowish at below 650c though maybe it still works up to 1000, there will be a lot of fumes though getting rid of the chemicals it's treated with
@@leonordin3052 So what is it?
How much power did you produce with this unit? That’s the most important question to answer
No the most important question is the ratio between investment and benefits
Good video! Just one question: will water freeze in the cold winter night, for say, -30 degree C?
Probably yes
@@civismesecret Thanks for reply. Then how to avoid that or any other solutions?
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Maybe use something other than water.. Maybe oil or something
Oil is most commonly used with these systems, maybe it doesn't expand if it freezes?
We need to be careful about generating more heat and trapping it.
Iam curious How polished bronze or brass reflect compared to stainless steel?
The question is great, but I believe those are much more expensive, therefor won't make sense. If you follow Sergiy for a while you'll see his goal is to cost optimize, not space optimize.
@@Sekir80 what do you mean with space optimised? Or is it mor refered to my other comment?
@@CUBETechie Space optimization in the case means you want the highest possible efficiency, meaning you will need less space to install your system. If space is not the problem, you can opt for a less efficient but cheaper system.
@@Sekir80 what would be sweet Spot?
@@Sekir80 if optimise for Cost effective and cheap as possible maybe you should also watch the presentation from Michael Pawlyn 😉
Твой английский очень сильно режет слух. Попробуй послушать индусов на английском. У тебя почти похожий акцент.
Can we get a translation into understandable English
Sergiy, when will you introduce a Fresnel lens into your design. It magnifies the sun by orders of magnitude to get extremely high output. I have seen stone melted on a cloudy day in front of a fresnel lens.
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