The 2024 PRS S2 Satin Custom 24 Guitar Deep Dive Series
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It's crazy how much these have crept in price over the years. I remember the original launch of the S2 was marketed as a "USA made workhorse guitar for under $1000". I understand everything is expensive nowadays, just kind of a bummer to see.
Heck, most of the Asian SE models are hovering just under $1000 these days.
Yea, old S2s were the price of a Fender American Special and Standard. Now they're the price of American Professionals, Ultras, and Vintages. Before they were the cheapest American guitars you can get.
Jackson USA models are inbetween $4-$5,000. so it could be worse. lOL~
This is your friendly reminder that inflation is open class warfare.
PRS S2 upgraded and in cocaine white! Its a winner.
I just ordered mine. This video really helped me decide. I’m looking for a workhorse prs. It’s the necks I love. This is my first time with a pattern thin but I’m excited to try it first hand.
My S2 Standard 22 satin is a real workhorse of a guitar, and not one im as concerned about playing live. It's the real deal without the maple cap.
Man this is amazing. I love the stripped down look and all the specs. If only I could get one with a 20" radius...
I agree totally! They really need more options for neck radius. At least a 10-16 compound or even a few 14+ radiused necks.
You can't fool us, this thing looks hideous ergonomically I know you won't use it.
@@bassyey It just looks hideous, period. I still don't understand how anyone thinks these guitars look good, apart from the bird inlays.
The only model I like is the Mark Holcomb, because it leans into the dark gaudiness.
@@arunkarthikma3121subjective
@@arunkarthikma3121 What guitars do you think look beautiful? The Stranberg ones? I think those look hideous. People like different guitars it is ok. You are not the arbiter of taste.
I have the 2021 version of this model...and replaced the wiring harness and installed SD Pearly Gates pickups. And I absolutely love it for all the reasons mentioned. Great video as always
You did the smart thing.
I loved the banjo sound effect.
Me too. I do a warm up exercise that I got from Steve Vai’s column in a guitar magazine about 30 years ago where you run every note up and down the neck and back - increasing speed as possible while still picking clearly.
I figure he’s using that - it looks like it.
Omg s2 line is back. This is incredible. PRS is doing a fantastic job!
Very happy with my SE CE 24 Satin Standard....Thank you PRS for finally making a truly affordable model for the many. For those who could never afford a PRS before. A guitar not at all to be under estimated. I would put this $500 guitar next to guitars double in price in terms of quality. Pick ups, like everything about a guitar is quite subjective. I really like the PRS 85/15 PUs. I really do not care where a guitar is made, or the type of wood used, or even the electronics as much as I care how it feels, how it sounds and how it plays.
I played the SE flame top CE. Very nice guitar for the $. While it felt a bit different than my Core CE, it really did do a good job capturing the basic vibe of the core line. Played real nice too. Congrats on your new guitar. 😁
@@shawnmcginnis2508 Thanks !
Me, my SE Custom 24 and , my SE Hollowbody II Piezo agree with you.
PRS needs to offer more options on the neck fretboard radius. Love the quality, fit, finish and sound of their guitars but 10” necks are too round for me. Make this same guitar with a hardtail bridge and 12 to 14 radius neck and I’m buying. Yes I agree that the pickups should have been USA all along.
I really appreciate the lengths you go to in your reviews. Plus your playing has improved (not that it was bad, but it has levelled up alot). I have a PRS core SC 594 Semi-Hollow and a US Silver Sky, and I was thinking of a Paul's guitar next, but after seeing this, and PRS' video, I'm going to buy an S2 Custom 24-08 this year.
Great review!
Got to love PRS... sounds meaty with the overdrive
Phillip, they put the 58/15 because it does have a better marketing effect to say "hey, we are giving you our top pickups!". Then, a couple of years later they'll come out with some new Core exclusive pickups and caught everybody with that strategy. There's no way they are going to maintain the same pickups on the S2 and the Core lineups forever.
great guitar i like it . amazing review much appreciated
Nice presentation!
Fantastic sound
Well done PRS!
man, that was some nice playing
Wow that sounds really good
Excellent !!
I currently own 4 PRS guitars and none of them have shielding paint in the cavity. On my S2 Vela I went ahead and shielded the cavity because it had a single-coil neck pickup, but I did not notice any difference at all. They simply don't need it.
I did the same thing with my guitars. Sheilded and there was no difference
Shielding the cavity is really only necessary if the wiring is not adequately shielded. Most guitars should be fine.
Hey. Will you address Hardluck kings demise in a future program?
Houmbuckers (any humbucker) don't need shielding paint.
But, but… money!you need to buy more products you need to spend more money!
this is my next guitar
Aloha Phill! Upgraded S2? Nice
It looks like the S2 Standard 22 still has the Pattern Regular neck profile. Great decision! Good stuff PRS
I like PRS but I don’t love the way many of them look. This one, looks cool. I could see The Ramones using this thing. That’s cool.
Pretty cool, I must say!
I dig the non fancy tops, much more my style!!
for players not posers ! 😅
From the thumbnail I thought it had white EMG 57/66s in it and I thought "Hey cool!....Ooh..." 😅 Really dig the satin finish on it with the wood grain showing through though!
I have an S2 custom I put a \m/ in the bridge and a 57/08 in the neck I love it. Then I have a core 594 has the 58/15 LT pickups best pickups PRS offers. I am very excited the S2s have the USA pickups.
Nice playing!
Lovely! I have the S2 Vela Hollowbody and it's so light and sounds so good. The S2 line is really cool, even more now. Actually it attracts me a lot more than the Core models. Would be cool if PRS could offer the USA pickups at a reduced price for previous S2 owners.
Yeah but they won't
I think this is a right step for the S2 line will definitely be checking the 2024 models
I wish they would still make the S2 Mira. Would be nice with a satin finish!
I wish they would also bring back the Starla.
Groovy
I have a semi-hollow Vela that looks just like that. It is awesome.
33 dead frets! LOL 😆Too funny... I dig the guitar!
Yes the satin S2 Standards are such a great deal and even better with the Core pups. I'd still probably go for the "Core" CEs though if I was looking at US made 'budget' models. But SE pickups have improved a lot last few years compared to older versions, I'm really satisfied with my SE Swamp Ash 85/15S / AS-01 tones. And I'd given up on SEs for awhile till I played one.
I love my Core CE24. Even had it modded to have the 24-08 switching. Anyway, the price of a CE24 in 2024 has gotten ridiculous. My 2021 wasn't cheap, but 2024 idk of I could justify it anymore if I had to purchase again.
Not a follower of PRS guitars so didn't realise the S2 line didn't have US pickups. That seems so weird now as it seems obvious that they should have had that from the start.
Why would you assume that?
@@jasonmizuno6117 Are you seriously questioning why someone would assume that a US made guitar would have US pickups? lol Ok, I'll play... why wouldn't it? Doesn't PRS make their own pickups?
@@Darth.Shredder those are the core pickups. Assuming they would have already came with a base model is kinda weird. They had their own S2 Pickups previously, one reason why they were half the price of their core brothers. The fact they are offering them now in the lesser model is completely insane and a big upgrade.
@@jasonmizuno6117 By that logic, you're suggesting that Gibson shouldn't have put their own USA made pickups in their $1299 Tribute models or the current $1599 Les Paul Studios. Sorry, but it's not "insane" for a US made guitar to have US made pickups and not much of an "upgrade' when they raised prices on all their S2's by hundreds of dollars.
@jasonmizuno6117 Considering Fender uses their own pickups on USA models and Gibson uses their own pickups on USA models it should be obvious to you why someone might assume that.
I love my S2.
Sounds really good. Sometimes I don't know if it's the guitar or your playing. Thanks again.
Great vid Phil! I become a bigger PRS fan every year.
I LOVE the S2 line. So much value for the money, especially new. I really wish they would bring back the Mira S2…!
I have an older Mira...pre S2. It is awesome. Beautifully made. Swapped out the pickups...found them a bit thin sounding. My go to guitar. I have a S2 Vela semi hollow satin on order.
Sure do wish they had these available before I had spent my cash on a Fender USA Strat
Nice!
I bet that satin nitro is going to look amazing when it gets some wear on it. Very nice
Great review. Nice guitar. Didn't find that guitar linked. Definitely like the tremolo on it more than without. Link it please.
I’m more of a Fender guy but alll the PRS I have were flawless in every way from the box. I never liked the pickups so they were swapped out but everything else is incredible.
At least Fender American Professional II comes with a hard case with TSA locks. It's a decent case too, I've tried flying it from Japan. Works fine. At the same price, this doesn't even come with one.
Yes…all it comes with is…*checks notes* a much better guitar.
HAHAHAHA the banjo audio made me LOL 4 real ! Just bought one of these in black
I got my s2 standard new in 2019 for $850. love the guitar. the new pricepoint for it is a bit steep tho.
Inflation is a pain
Well I guess it's next on my list for guitar purchases.
The tenth anniversary s2 models use usa pickups and pots I believe ,sounds fantastic as well .
Pattern thin - the best neck
i prefer pattern regular
There is nothing specific about PRS's that make me desire one except for the aesthetics. When playing one, I'm always just 'Fine' with the shape, neck carve etc, but never a GAS-like need for one like I do Jackson/Charvels, Ibanez's, or Parkers.
That's why there are hundreds of flavors of soda. Everyone has different tastes.
I have an S2, a 2016 model I think. I also have a CE24 and a core Custom 22 and honestly, the S2 sounds as good as either of them. Glad I got it while they were still relatively cheap.
I love my s2 satin, The only thing I didn't like about it is the dot inlays, glad they "fixed" that.
Hey Phil! Awesome review and I'm so happy to see the changes coming into the s2! One minor thing I wanted to clarify: isn't the Lovepedal OD11 a Timmy clone? I always thought it was based on the Timmy and not the ZenDrive becuase Lovepdal make a full-blown ZenDrive as it is.
Nice guitar! I’d prefer this model over a fancy finish model PRS .
I own the 2018 model and I changed everything on it in terms of electronics including the wires! Check it out on my channel with before and after! The short story is: The pickups (now they don't need changing anymore, nice!), the capacitor as it comes with .33nF which is darker ( I changed to .22nF for brightness), and the saddles (changed to titanium or steel) are the biggest improvements you can make in terms of affecting tone and feel. I would say that the saddles are number one actually....it makes it sound plinky and eats sustain. So many ppl over YT are changing the entire bridge to MANN made steel and brass equivalent, but I couldn't afford that.
As always, great job.
As always my ask to Paul:
When do we get a regular guitar with proper-sized (jumbo or narrow-tall) frets?
Pattern regular neck shape is the best neck shape for me :).. and the Luke III neck.
I know! Really disappointed because the rest of the changes are great
Pickups are important.
PRS should already have known this from the outset.
That is why they worked to have the overseas pickups designed to their specs. The S2 line is all about having a USA built guitar at a more easily attainable price point. They also have been leveling up this pickups and maybe decided now they could integrate the USA pickups into the S2 line and not bump the price up a ton so lets not pretend they don't understand the importance of pickups.
@@seanccayeah I have the pre-update s2 standard, there's nothing wrong with the pickups at all. Implying they were unusable before this is disingenuous
@@Hobinator17i think the newer SE pickups sound much much better than the older SE pickups too, they sound so clean, almost cleaner than my lollar imperials. My favourite is the Paul's guitar tcis pickups
The goal of the S2 line was affordability. The earlier version of that guitar was $1000 when it came out. The new one is $1730. They were one of the cheapest American guitars you can get and the quality was what you would find in guitars that cost much more. That was the appeal. You could buy one and put whatever pickups you want in it. I don't think PRS pickups are great so any S2 I would get would get a pickup change. My Vela has a Filtertron and Firebird pickup. I would still make those changes if I bought one today. I considered buying a 594 Thinline and putting PAFs in it. But at the current prices, I would just go with an SG.
And pair of very good Aliexpress paf style pickup cost 50$
We have 33 dead notes 😂
This is such a no-brainer move for PRS. I've been interested in the Vela Semihollow for a while but couldn't mentally get past the import pickups. Gibson and Fender put American pickups in their American guitars after all. The playing demo for the Satin Vela Semihollow they posted was fantastic and I want to try one out as soon as I can.
I tried the previous version Vela Semi-hollow Satin, and they feel and sound great. I imagine the new version will sound amazing!
The pickups weren't great but the S2 line was about having great bones. I paid about $1200 for my Vela and added a Filtertron and Firebird pickup. If I bought a Vela today, I would still make those changes. The S2 line offered guitars that felt like it was way above its price range. My Vela compares favorably to guitars that cost 2-3x as much. The Standards were a very stripped down PRS. It made sense when they were at the old price range. You could buy the guitar and make it your own for not that much money.
Not a big S2 fan, but I like that one.
I have a '22 S2 satin standard 22. The pickups are great. The only thing I don't like about the guitar is the floating bridge. I need to find the best way to make it dive only. Apparently they shouldn't be decked. I also prefer the push-pull for splitting pickups.
I remember buying an S2 with duncans in it for like 650$ used a few years ago. That was an obvious deal but I would never pay pretty much 3x that for one of these. You can even find used old cores for a little under 2k. Great video Phil
Excellent tone and diversity. Well worth the money.
no. it is to expensive
At Christmas i got an SE SAS. The fourth SE ive owned. 1st made in Indonesia and the first one i liked the pickups. In fact other than putting locking tuners on it theres nothing i wouls change on it.
Agree, the Indonesian made SE SAS 85/15S/AS-01 pickups are good enough to keep stock, I put locking tuners on mine as well. My Korean SE is an amazing quality build but the pups needed replacing. Had an old 1990s PRS EG-2 HSH that was stolen and waited long time for an affordable PRS with HSH. And Iri Blue is gorgeous too.
Yeah they seem to have been slowly upgrading the overseas pickups. I am sure some of the change is related to that to differentiate the lines.
Greetings Phillip from Indy. I need an expert’s opinion. I have a Latitude Cardinal Headless w/ a Swamp Ash body in semi gloss natural. I really want to add a coil split for the two humbuckers and the big question, I want to have a black binding installed where there isn’t one already. In your opinion, is that doable or wise at all. Thanks for all the work and effort for educating us. 😮 Peace!
Reminds me of the 2013 lpj.
While I much prefer the traditional type of PRS burst, quilts and flames, this guitar really looks great in an almost art deco as-applied in a Fenderish kind of way. Sounds great too. Thanks for the deep dive on this one.
Hey Phillip thanks for all your videos!! I'd like to ask you; how can I change the wraparound bridge on my gretsch g2210 for a tremolo and a roller bridge? I mean, since is wraparound it only comes with those 2 holes... easy to replace that wraparound with the roller bridge but i'd still need to drill at least a couple holes if i want to add say the duesenberg. Any tips on the way a should measure the distance between the roller bridge and the two new holes for the duesenberg? Thanks in advance brother.
Bought an se custom 24 really liked it but didn't like the tremolo because I don't ever have a use for it and tune around too much. Bought and s2 594 and actually preferred the se custom 24. Great quality guitars no doubt they just do not feel special or inspire me when playing so I sold both.
Nice guitar and demo! Sadly this one does make it on my list. I don't like the bird inlays and prefer dots. After owning the S2 Vela semi hollow it's a far more versatile guitar for the money imho...
The new velas have narrowfields in the neck
Yeah I am guessing that was a licensed type pickup and they don't really make that one in the factory.
I bought my first PRS, the 594 McCarty SE and I LOVE it!! The neck profile is identical to my 2016 Gibson Flying V. Two things about PRS...the birds, and they all look the same but you never know if it costs $800 or $6500?
I admire a man who hasb love and respect for his mother, but to put bird inlays on 99% of your guitars? Thats just bad for business. Inlays are an important design element and you can change the look but varying the inlays. My inexpensive Schecter has the coolest inlays, the design is great and they've got different color inlays, and they do one on the first fret. Give us some variety Mr. Smith:)
Hi Phil I am going to to buy this guitar right now I had the old version without the American pick ups the one I’m getting is red . I noticed you comment on the set up of their tremolo .Do you have a specific video showing the set up for this tremolo system? This is a great model I love the way the 5 way switch works the guitar is ultra comfortable easy to play it is light for me it is a win win win . I also mention I bought the Laney cub combo tube amp you reviewed as well it goes great with this guitar. 🎸
I love that body design. Not a fan of the headstock or birds...but we all have different tastes.
I'm guilty. When the 58/15 LT pups were made available, they said they were a 1 time deal only. I always liked them a lot, and I bought a set. I got 10% off, and paid the $450. They are still on my pup shelf not installed in anything yet. I also have a set I bought from Joe Bonamasa, spares for '59 "Burst"s, not installed in anything yet either. (They are Bonamasa/Duncan, not real 59's by any means. They are the 'spares' Joe takes on the road). I have a bunch of other pups also, not as many as Phil I don't think, but my fair share. LOL. I'm only going to loose money on them, but they make me happy. 8) Peace 8) --gary
All I see is the Birds! Have had two of these and can’t believe they cut the birds like a cost effective problem. I do think this is the Most beautiful guitar I have ever seen, it’s only as good as a set up SE if Your lucky. These were 999 4 years ago. 800$ price jump? No I bought a Carvin CT3 and makes this sound like a toy compared. Thought this is My favorite guitar model everything, ot falls so short for the price
Throw in Your favorite buckers and new nut and I’m sold. I always wanted to modify an SE with this Pickguard
They are finally making 499 same satin body’s but bolt on neck. Ergh this just pisses Me off because I LOVE this guitar
I have the PRS S2 dot in antique white from 2021would love a set of these pickups and I also like the bridge
You get the bird inlays on the standard now. Interesting.
I wonder how the 5815 pick ups would sound......on my 2008 PRS Mira that I purchased at McKnight guitars from Phil? Mine has the solid bird, neck inlays.....great for slide tuning...
Wow - I have the previous version of that guitar - already amazing - these would be a great buy...just sayin'...
Did they also add the birds to that guitar? I seem to remember those having dots, which I kinda liked. I dig it, though. That's always been my favorite PRS.
That's a really nice looking guitar. Those USA pups are gonna get a lot of proverbial triggers pulled, me thinks.
Man the PRS fanclub is unwavering in their support. I own a few and don't see what the big deal is at all.
yet you own a few, bro you're in the club
I am more excited that we get the birds. But damn the good pickups. Now I have to get this.
And they went up on the price to cover for it. The smart man will buy an old S2 & throw his own Duncan's or DiMarzios in it, & pots & caps if necessary. But I can do that myself.
Kinda at that point you will be close to or at the same price point.
I'd rather the PRS pickups, but I get your point and if you don't care for the prs tone, than yeah , that's a great idea !
I like the sound of those pickups . The neck could be wider for me and the way it is finished is a bit too cheap for my liking . Overall though , I see a PRS S2 in my collection someday! It’s those birds on the dark fretboard I love. And 6.8 pounds is a perfect weight. Fix the finish and I think it’s a hit!
Interested to see if used S2 prices dip. I don’t mind the import electronics.
Right? Part of me wonders if maybe I’m just some uncouth hearing impaired nitwit. Another part of me just thinks that other people are just cork sniffing and pretentious.
@@Newnodrogbob having an SE and CE I would personally say the American 85/15 sound fuller and more balanced, but maybe a bit more compressed. Asked which one I like better sound wise, well 90% of the time I'd choose the CE but there are times the SE fits to moment better.
If you think it's so great, why don't you buy one, Phillip? You're a fine guitarist; you can make it sing. 👍👍👍
I'd really love to know your thoughts on the S2 Custom 24 10th anniversary with the US electronics.
Philstradamus. You called it - S2 is the new core, SE is the new S2
Great, now ANOTHER PRS I have to justify.
Wonder if it comes with a case? At that price it should do it and not give a gig bag like the PRS Silver Sky.
They S2 line has always had a gig bag. A well made one at that.
It’s a great move for PRS, but as someone with 2 pre-2024 S2’s, I’m a bit bummed.😢
How does the next compare to a 60's Les Paul or a V2 neck of a LP?
I like to see the back of the neck painted. Like the old Ibanez Roadstars! I wish Fender would paint the backs of some of there necks for the love of god man!
If they did, people be screaming about how the painted necks don't sound 'Stratty' enough or some other goofy BS. But, I agree with you about it.
I had no idea those pickups were $500, but I guess that's not really out of line in 2024...
@@clintwilson6380 It definitely affects feel though. There's reason most players like satin finishes more. And it's not really about bitching. It's reasonable to like neck satin finishes.
@@bassyey what's your view on reverse headstocks?