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One of favorite heroes for all time and really really hope that one day the Man Of Steel gets the real treatment he deserves. It is an injustice but in the end there will be justice. great video
@@ottosantiagolassus Because unlike your avatar Dr Manhattan, Superman is not invincible. It may seem that way from a human perspective but when you introduce threats like Darkseid, Doomsday, Brainiac, Zod and Mr Mxlsptlyx then Superman can be hurt and even killed. Actually Mr Mx might even provide a challenge to Manhattan and before anyone says anything I know I’ve probably spelt the mischievous imps name wrong
Here are a few ideas I've been suggesting for several years now... *▪Don't reduce his power; replicate his responsibility of controlling his superpowers so that he doesn't overdo it.* If you pour it on too much, you create collateral damage in the environment through the reckless use of your superpowers *▪Game play mechanics should be based in having to hone his powers by hitting a 'sweet spot'.* Superman's perpetual challenge is to use Kryptonian superpowers to save the world when they could just as easily be used to break it. Simulate this challenge that he's always had to navigate in the comics *▪Put a timer/destruction meter on each task.* Superman's job isn't to just beat up the bad guys. It's to save lives and property. Stop the redundant NPC enemies you have to wade through in level play before too much damage is done, otherwise Superman's not really saving the day now is he? *•Remove these barriers in the boss fights.* Crank it up and cut loose with his powers when fighting supervillains in the boss fights *▪Explore all 3 aspects of him -- Superman (hero); Clark Kent (investigative reporter); Kal El of Krypton (alien).* Have levels that require him to sneak around and uncover evidence as Clark Kent, the investigative reporter; levels where he can't use his superpowers. This incorporates the same fun of Batman and Spiderman games by using Clark as the detective *▪Use corresponding villains for his three identities.* The Kal El/alien missions should see him facing General Zod, Brainiac, and Doomsday. Superman/hero gets Darkseid, Mongul, Bizarro, Cyborg Superman, Metallo, etc. The Clark Kent/investigator missions should put him on the trail of uncovering Lex Luthor *▪Take him everywhere he has connections.* Don't just keep him in Metropolis the whole time. Take him to Smallville, the Fortress of Solitude, the Hall of Justice, even to outer space (to assist the Green Lantern Corps on a galactic mission or two!) *▪Increase XP with heroic last second rescues that amazes everyone.* Get bonuses whenever you stop bullets, bombs, and trainwrecks at the last possible moment. Ya know, like a superhero! *▪Use Superman to inspire hope.* That's why he's here in the first place, is it not? Make gameplay affect public opinion of you in Metropolis, and have the choices you make when stopping other supervillains earlier in the story determine the ending. If Superman has to always make the correct decisions every time, so should you *▪Lex Luthor should be responsible for the most wretched things imaginable, but will get away with it no matter what.* Superman should personally know all the top secret science projects & classified military operations Lex is involved in, but Superman can never gain the indisputable evidence he'll need that'll stand up in court to legally bring down Lex. Have the people of Metropolis continue blindly adoring Lex as a genius & philanthropist. Since the point of Superman is to inspire hope, the point of Lex Luthor is to frustrate Superman so much that even he starts to question if it's hopeless in a world where men like Lex Luthor can rig the system and get away with their crimes *▪The overall experience should not only be fun, but to emphasize the immense responsibility Superman has.* Storytelling in gaming has advanced enough by now that gamers could handle such a meta message. Who says a video game can't also have artistic merit? *▪And for Chrissakes, no Batman appearances!* He's had enough movies, games, TV shows, and animated movies by now. The objective here is to establish Superman as a viable franchise character. If it's a hit, you can bring in Supergirl and Superboy into the fold for the sequels, but the focus must always remain on Superman That's it, guys. That's your recipe for a good Superman video game. It can absolutely be achieved as long as you approach it with creativity, and honor the most storied source material in comic book history. It won't be easy, but a great Superman game never should be. Making good games for Superman is supposed to be difficult, otherwise the character would never evolve to overcome contemporary challenges
Really like this but I do admit that in order to not bombard the player with too many tasks have there be a button where Superman uses his super hearing in order to identify things in Metropolis, Smallville and even space. Have there also be many side quests. Also make thug missions be more about trying to keep innocents health bars alive instead of your own.
3:24 that’s what I’ve been thinking for a while. The Spider-Man games have laid a solid groundwork for potential Superman games. As much as I love the Arkham games and for Rocksteady to live out their dreams of finally making a Superman game, I don’t want the same gameplay setting as Arkham. I want Metropolis to be a living and breathing city like NY in Spider-Man. Superman as a character thrives in helping out citizens during their day to day lives. If we put him in an empty Metropolis with only criminals to fight, I’d say that effectively takes away a key aspect of what makes him Superman. He fights criminals, sure, but his purpose is to mostly save and help citizens. And in an empty Metropolis, I doubt he’d be doing much of that.
Oh yeah Spider-Man games def for the style of the world… gameplay of Spider-Man style I agree. Some Arkham Easter eggs and fighting attacks imo. I think of putting out fires, stopping robbery’s, saving cats from trees etc for Superman! 🔥🔥
@@AListProductions absolutely agree. Hell, I’d even want a mission of saving someone from jumping off a building like what we see in Superman Grounded or All Star Superman. :)
That why hes saying there should be no health bar! Super man is invincible, we already no that but that's not his purpose, his purpose is to save the citizens around him, the people he love the most! So a game could work without health bars and whatnot, it could be timed, like if you don't save enough citizens while fighting off the bad guy you fail the mission!
Yes I agree 👍💯👏🙌👌😊....but a superman games 🎮needs to have building destruction people deaths or at least like arkham knockouts and we are talking super man laser eyes like in superman vs. Batman movie where you see the fight of zod and superman inside a building blasting laser eye blast through it cutting it like fruit ninja to a building and watching it collapse would be one of the best displays ever in a game building destruction and flying speed brings a pull behind it dragging everything not nailed down lol and best way I can explain is comparisons of Magneto in that Nemesis game where he can drag it all of the scenery items cars and debris around in a circle and you can control and throw it but imagine this with Superman flying really fast dragging a pool of objects behind him and then turning left really fast while you're flying forward and just throwing all those objects past you at an enemy this game I wish I could work on it I really do
I'd love for a game like this to come out and I've been wanting this type of Superman game since I played the Nintendo version of Superman. There's soo much content and possibilities here. Great video man 👍
It's crazy that it's 2022 and we don't have a modern Superman game, it seems like developers avoid it like the plague because they see it as too big a risk. Would also be great to play as Clark anytime we like, in Metropolis or even just on the farm and in Smallville. It's something that i really thought Arkham Knight would have, the freedom to play as Bruce. With the character of Superman it would be essenital i think, Bruce becomes Batman and it's his life, Clark is tring to juggle being Superman while also a job and a love life. We need that Clark gameplay!
It’s a risk when done wrong for sure. Movies, TV and comics over the years prove their is profit to be made. I hope someone does it sooner rather than later! And I agree Clark would be great! Even better because while Superman people on the streets could be high fiving and cheering… then as clark “hey watch where you’re walking” etc
@@AListProductions it's WAAAY lesser risk than what WB is doing right now with Suicide Squad game that nobody wanted, game that doesn't even look interesting, just ordinary shooter with little bit of super powers on long cooldowns. But at least they had enough brains to do Wonder Woman reskin for Shadow of Mordor I mean, they literally won first ever fan nomination Oscars award for a scene they told to remove and refused to restore for 3 years.
In addition; start off as superboy who doesn't just fly yet but jumps higher than the average human being; iconic blue jeans & black "s" t-shirt.. .get a job at the daily planet which in turn Clark has assignments/pictures to turn in, regardless how he gets them. In fact the daily planet would be good for putting Clark on mission where superman's interference isn't need, neither should Clark be discovered as Superman, vice versa. Definitely add Bizarro whether it be boss fight, skin, or multiplayer. Then there's a variety of superman stories that could be infused with time travel or dlc; red son, kingdom come, all star etc. I'm all for this game & it's collectives edition."🦸👍
Well, there is a Suicide Squad game coming out from Rocksteady. Superman is in that one. Should the response to him in that game be great, maybe Rocksteady will be allowed to do a full-on Superman game. Only time will tell though.
You pretty much summed up everything I’d like to see in a Superman game, I’m sure one day a studio will come along and finally get it right. Also, I recently saw the interview you did on kashchei2003’s channel and as a fan editor myself it was really enlightening to listen to and hear about the creative process that others go through. Keep up the good work.
Oh duuuude. Hell yes! I’d totally be down for a Superman game like this. Damn this sounds so fun 😭 I especially love the speed of Superman. Running as the flash has always been my favorite thing to do with the LEGO games. So having that much speed with Superman would be hella fun
@@AListProductions It'll happen, I would put it towards the end of THIS gen, but probably into next, maybe even a launch game. I say this because they know it will be popular, and they are right - if they think that - but past failures make them careful to fail again. They have the tech to do it now, as YOU just showed. Do not fret it will come, and I will definitely be buying it - ALSO agree I find it funny that you used the exact example of one way to have a fully powered supes against regular humans that I used. A bullet time idea, Xray heatvision punching through walls.. All of it. they would do a button combination if they wanted something to make it feel like you were moving in and making his do the move, etc. It is fully possible with current tech I feel like suicide squad kill the justice leagues SUCCESS is paramount to us getting a game like this though, so hopefully they knock it out of the park, AND it sells well, and its loved by us all
A story driven open world game will be perfect. Switch between Clark and Superman to develop an engaging story. Combat and fights could be be pulled of if enough effort is being put in and it has the potential to be one of the best. I hope some studio come forward to make an ambitious Superman game.
Seeing the "extra" concepts at the end gave me goosebumps... just imagining selecting a suit and loading into a world where I can have my dream of being Superman... *sniffle*
I think instead of the city health bar, there should be a reputation meter, similar to Infamous 2. If you stop crimes and save people, your reputation goes up and civilians applaud and cheer when they see you. If you choose to just destroy buildings and set places on fire, your reputation goes down and people actively run away from you, and maybe if it goes down low enough, police and military would act hostile to you, like the star system in GTA.
Extremely well done. Just one more thing, it would be great to have the main characters playable through the game. Like you did with Christopher Reeve. Dean Cain, Tom Welling, Brandon Routh, Henry Cavill etc.
YOU ARE SAYING EVERYTHING WARNER BROTHERS AND DC'S NEED TO HEAR!!! Also, don't you think guys that it is about time we have a great Justice League game? Cus I think we Do!
Great video and really nice to see more people making videos on how a Superman game can definitely work and that he isn’t really that hard to do. Too many people or should I say “casuals” always complain that he is too OP and that there is no challenge which is complete stupidity. It’s not that hard to realize to just give him enemies on his level and it should be fine without leaning on crutches like Kryptonite or Red Sun.
Exactly! Misc missions around the map for side quests can be “save cats from trees”, “stop bank robbers” “stop car theif” “put out fire” etc. fun stuff you can fully use his abilities… and the main story incorporate kryptonite, Zod , doomsday, or brainiac. - thanks for watching!
When he's not in physical danger himself from supervillains or weaknesses, the emphasis should be on the people and the city being in danger. When too many people die and there's too much damage, game over.
@@axebomber2108 Exactly right, quick time events should definitely be incorporated mid battle to save someone trapped in a car or under some rubble. Like an enemy jumps on you, tap X button to get them off, quickly survey the civilian for a quick time event, save them or others and get back into the action. It shouldn’t feel repetitive but something of a balance, something natural to Superman and what he does. It just can’t be repetitive to the player like Superman Returns was.
@@AListProductions Yes! It’s all but outright confirmed the game is in Themyscira. The teaser description says Wonder Woman will be “Open-world action game” that uses Monolith’s Nemesis System that started with their Middle-Earth games Shadow of Mordor/War. So we also can assume that the combat will be like Arkham since those games had essentially the same style.
I think that it just comes down to the amount of effort it would take, perhaps when we have self-generating technology kind of like what they use in elite dangerous, maybe then once we master something like that but more in a more detailed level then we can have something like this. The problem is is you need everything to be destructible cities would have to be destructible, you would have to fly through a building. To punch through people through buildings. But more than any of this you would have to capture the emotion of Superman It would have to be a game about being a good person That's the other problem. People like violent games are Superman game really has to be rewarding for not being violent. Meaning that as Superman you are rewarded for saving people's lives, you feel the thrill of catching somebody before they hit the ground, you go up against these insanely violent and evil opponents and you know that you're the good guy it feels like you're the good guy You're saving people. The NPCs would have to react to you, they would have to show emotion, show that they need you and you would have to be willing and able to reciprocate that love. A Superman game would have to be a very real game and I think that's what it comes down to. Superman is a very multi-dimensional character I think Batman is as well but I think Superman is like the most multi-dimensional superhero amongst the major superheroes. He loves people he truly does his heart is made of gold, the best Superman comics are not the most violent despite what some people may think it's the ones we're Superman shows that despite the fact he is hard to hurt he's constantly in a state of near panic to save those around him so the game would have to fill you of adrenaline because you were literally chasing against time to save people. Lois Lane would also have to be a big part of that so you would have to have these NPCs that are very multi-dimensional, but they would have to react to things that you do if it is open world and you decide to become an evil Superman you need to feel the emotional crush of lois lane despising you. To know that she'll never love you again because you've done evil things. They're also has to be other superheroes that can rise up against you or help you depending on how you behave in the game. And vice versa super villains that help you or rise up against you depending on how you behave. If you choose to remain a good guy throughout the game and you truly live out the game to the best of your ability to be as Superman as you can be then there has to be super villains that can alter their behavior and calculate differently and try to outmaneuver you because that's the only way Superman game will be good. It has to be truly open world those super villains are always up to things, their behaving and hiding in the darkness, you might see signs of their behavior you might see civilians getting kidnapped or hurt or dying and you have to inspect that area you have to use your X-ray vision to try to figure out what's going on Where's the chaos, do you understand what I'm saying? This game would have to be like unlike any game that ever existed.
Excellent video bro! There are so many people that need to see this and be taught some basic common sense! It’s criminal that we don’t have this type of Superman game yet! All I can hope is that when it finally does arrive it will be well worth the wait!
I feel like a good health system for a Superman game wouldn't be Superman's actual HP, but Metropolis' HP. Like, if too many people are killed or something along the lines of that, then you would fail the level/mission. Kind of like Megaton Rainfall, a VR game I personally love mostly because It's the closest thing to being Superman in a video game that I've ever seen.
4:47 the theme in the background would be perfect in this game. It’s different from the movies etc. it’s like Spider-Man PS4 and how that theme is catchy but also different from everything else I personally love it and also love this concept.
@@AListProductions OH NO WAY! That’s so epic good job on that. You captured the delicacy and hopeful vibe of Superman in this theme. It differentiates itself from all other Superman themes and it’s an amazing thing. Personally I think it’s kinda hard to step out of John Williams shadow but for me you accomplished that. If it’s not a hassle is there anyway I could have a link or something to listen to it?
This is really great video. I love your ideas for the game and all the concept art you created. Love that you have a Christopher Reeve likeness head. Would be great to get some audio clips from him in there as well. Again really well done. Would love to see this as a real game!
I recall that Superman is vulnerable to magic as well as kryptonite. I think that would be a worthy avenue to explore. A villain could gain control of Zatanna and John Constantine and set up the kind of challenge we’ve never seen before. I like the concept video, but think it needs more rings to fly through. Note to any prospective developers, that was entirely sarcastic.
As a fan of Superman and videogames, I gotta say that your concept is... Amazing! We need this to really happen, gotta love to play that game as much times as I can. :'D
Omg how do we build this game, this was the best video I have seen on RUclips for years. I see your vision. Partitions need to be signed to approach companies with the back to create this. I have lived and adored the icon for years. What a powerful idea. You have my full support.
Glad you brought up powering down Superman I have noticed this argument constantly yet no one powers down some other godlike characters in gaming. Dante and Kratos come to mind but also Batman and Spider-Man aren't powered down either and are experienced. Everytime people bring up a Superman game also they always want to do another origin crap and it's like wth? Spider-Man nor Batman had any of that but for some reason folks think Superman needs a origin tale for a game. People aren't thinking outside the box here when it comes to the character or Tell Tale nonsense I have seen folks pitch and I'm like " I don't care I want to be Superman "
I agree! I think it's just people can't think of a way to do the game with him at full power, but its really not that hard. Loads of franchises like you mentioned have people full powered. No one wants to play a game or series based on (insert any character) and they are powered down, they are playing them because they LOVE that character not a weaker version of that. Yes! I think start with him having been superman already for like 4 years, and if you want fun flash backs that can be part of the storyline.
@@AListProductions Excatly do the Spider Man PS4 approach , where he's been Superman for 5 years, 6 or 4 like you said and let's say he has fought a good chunk of his rouges gallery but not everyone like in Spider Man. He fought Metallo, Parasite , Toyman, Atomic Skull , Livewire and Lex Luthor and the Intergang and Bruno Manheim but hasn't encountered like General Zod, Mongul , Darkseid or Brainaic yet nor has he encountered Phantom Zone Criminals yet or Cadmus and like Kara Zor El just arrived on earth . Just has Spider Man and Batman had villains not part of their rouges gallery fight them ( Deathstroke and Taskmaster) have Superman fight the same , have a fight where Superman is battling Major Force etc or Captain Atom ( before he becomes your ally )
A open world justice league game would be cool. Single player has pick a Hero and each hero has their own storyline or play online for the justice league storyline. I think something along this line would be sick.
The open world concept is on point ! Really got me thinking about the endless possibilities, like taking superman not only into space , but to other planets even! Make it open universe!
This video is right on point. It's EXACTLY how this "future" game should be and it's about time they start working on it - with the mentality, references, and nuance you're suggesting. Rocksteady should definitely be the ones to make this video game. They've done such a great job with the Batman series that they should invest more in making superhero games, with as much time that's needed and attention to detail, as they've done with the Batman series, with a series of Superman games. Best of luck!
I completely agree with you. We do need a good Superman video game. I like the concept of the the game but when you change skins It would be better if you have it in the fortress of solitude background. Just a thought
i love the idea of flying into the sky and it opening up a map of the world. metropolis / smallville / fortress of solitude / watchtower having a metropolis that is insanely huge bigger than gta5 then fly up and it open up a map to travel then cutscene is him flying into space slowly and into orbin then flying down showing him flying down and it loading you into the sky. smallville would be awesome having you fly through seemingly endless corn fields and the small city to see your parents. fortress would be super training for superman and upgrades. watchtower would be superman interacting with others and finding missions on earth to stop with ar training like batman arkham knight where its all simulated fights to learn just like fortress. but one thing i'd love is switching between clark and superman. you walk around metropolis like gta and can take pictures and write reports from events happening in the city. like random things. like a robbery going on and you change into superman and get clark to show up after and interview people from it and it goes into the daily planet. switching back and forth. and you switch to clark in smallville to go into the school and businesses. if they add superboy and others it would be cool but superman alone would be great. superman returns was a great game.
awesome video you sum it up. I really love to see a Superman open world game come to life!! we all been waiting so long, hopefully a gaming studio can make it happen :)
The game would need to revolve around who Superman is as a character; a beacon of hope and justice. Too many people focus on the POWER of Superman instead of the Kansas farmboy he really is. To that end, I'd want a mixture of dialog options and writing that would be a mixture of Fallout: New Vegas, Telltale's The Walking Dead, KOTOR 1 and 2, and Detroit: Become Human. Have Superman's missions actually become moral conundrums, with some sort of morality system where you can make tough choices as Superman, for better or worse. For example, someone's about to kill themselves because of a terminal illness. Do you, as Superman, save their life, or do you allow them to kill themselves? Or do you HELP them do it? And all of your choices would influence the NPCs in the game and lead to multiple endings based on your choices. And depending on how you play, you can open new dialog options in other missions. Maybe you did the "Halls of Evil" sidequest before this one, so now you know there's a cure for the terminal illness, BUT it turns out that the person didn't have the best life anyway and WANTS to die regardless, but their family wants them alive. Do you force the cure on them anyway? And then these choices reflect the combat missions you'd have in the game. Maybe the family of the suicidal person tries to help you in a battle against Metallo, or they've actually funded a taskforce to try and take you down. Your decisions as Earth's Guardian would make the game easier or harder, and even the CORRECT choice could make the game harder as well. Even sidequests would have importance, like helping a local recreation center curb rising crime rates in the inner city. Your actions would either make things worse, better, or somehow there would be no change whatsoever. But the environment would change permanently, and you'd either have more random enemies to fight or less. I agree with everything else in this video, but that's the kind of Superman game I'd want to see. You're Earth's defender. Now you have to live up to the name of Superman and actually make extremely tough decisions with almost every mission you have. Simple "punch the bad guy" missions would actually be the easiest part of the game in comparison, and even then you'd have to try minimizing collateral damage.
Great video! I always thought one way to do a franchise of games is to start him off in Smallville, learn his powers and face more earth bound villains like Lex Luthor, Metallo, Parasite, Livewire, even some classics like Toyman or Prankster. He takes down Lex Luthor and the end has a tease for Zod and the Phantom Zone. The second game he takes on Kryptonians as well as Brainiac. The third he takes on Darkseid and Doomsday. As each game progresses he goes from Earth, to space, to the afterlife, to Apocalypse
Came from Twitter and I'm really glad I clicked the link, its lit! This vid is so on point its kinda ridiculous you even had to make it at this point. With all the gigntic open world games we have now I cant believe we're still waiting on a good Superman game, hell we're even getting a Wonder Woman game which is dope but getting a Gotham Knights game before a Superman one when we've already had 4 Arkham games and a Suicide Squad Vs The Justice League on the horizon too is more of the same. Don't get me wrong I'm so down for the new games it's just frustrating they haven't capitalized on a Superman game yet. Thanks for the vid bro!
Great video. I've wondered about every point you raised here, and I totally agree that it's such a missed opportunity. The mock-footage at the end is fantastic.
Fantastic Post, AListProduction!!! As a Superman Fan for 5 decades, I think what they need is have places all over Earth in NODES, like Paris (and the nuclear bomb in the elevator as a nod to Superman II), and perhaps some other French cities and landscapes. When finished, the man of steel has a cut scene of flying over the planet like when Christopher Reeve flies into space, orbiting Earth, where he'll go to the next "Hot Spot". Once complete in any mission, he will be able to fly around in any of the previously visited nodes and have random events happen, though no more "Main Campaign" level missions there. Off to Afghanistan, to stop a "rogue nation" from unleashing nerve toxin on the populace, while battling mechs that have superspeed and Red Radiation lasers, temporarily weakening Supes if hit. What's next? How about a trip into space to CAREFULLY repair the International Space Station, which has a ruptured fuel line, and therefore a decaying orbit. Kal must repair the busted out fuel lines, and gently give nudges to the platform, or it could break up all over Earth orbit, and thereby not only put the astronauts in mortal danger, but also make it hazardous for future launches due to the immense debris field and falling larger pieces of the station. What's that you say? The Mariana Trench is experiencing tectonic activity? Who's this a job for? SUPERMAN!! Someone said they saw Metallo attacking Metropolis? Who ya gonna call? SUPERMAN!! What's different this time? You've got superspeed, super breath, freeze breath, heat vision, powerful punches, and flight to show this goon what it's REALLY like to go up against the Man of Steel! Along the way, there are a vast array of mutants, aliens, and techno villains that can give our hero some irritation, and because he's so powerful, he has to gauge his strength so as not to put them out of commission permanently. Need a world-ending scenario? Mongul, Darkseid, Luthor, Parasite, Brainiac, General Zod, Hank Henshaw, even Mr. Mxyzptlk for just plain silliness to mix things up a bit (perhaps literally). The list goes on and on. The whole thing here is NOT about meeting Lois for a date, or to arrive to work in time without Perry White chewing out Clark Kent. This is about Superman at his most awesome! A crowbar to the head? "What was that? Did something throw popcorn at me". Try a 10-kiloton bomb, and he just may take notice. How fast is he? Love the Bullet-Time reference so much!!! Use that X-Ray vision, punch through walls and pull those bad guys right out of the room they were in. Fantastic idea! The ideas are only limited by the development team. But if they're smart, they'll listen to the fans. "Let's run over Superman with a steamroller! That will flatten him"!!! Superman sneezes and launches it 2 miles down range, and into a lake. "Let's shoot him with our guns that go PEW PEW". DUDE, he can withstand a NUKE!!! If they make this game right, "You'll Believe a Man Can Fly"!!! Open up forums for ideas, and of include things NOT to include in the game. My #1 bad ideas by developers for all of his games? Stop depowering him and then have him earn power-ups!!! Bring him home, and don't look back! He's a SUPER MAN; keep it that way! RIBBIT!!!
Great video. I love the Tim Daly voice over during the hypothetical gameplay footage. I like George Newbern and the rest of them, but Tim Daly was always my favorite.
Great job man! we definitely deserve a Superman game. I owned the Superman Return game. after completing the game, I was pleased and truly hoped that they would continue. so I hope they're watching this! your idea and mix-match of games are spots on.👌
for a few years now ive had this crazy idea for a cool superman game which basically includes all the points you bring up and more. One thing though is it would depower superman, however not for the whole game. you would start out fully powered for like an opening tutorial bit, then story reasons get you depowered some, and then over the course of the game you get stronger and stronger to when you would be at your full strength so people get time to learn and focus on his different strengths. the main story would also be more RPG like in progression and events where you have multiple ways to handle them leading to some different outcomes. (this way you can't have people complaining about superman not being superman because its literally up to you to figure out). building on that, instead of a metropolis health bar, its more of a metropolis popularity thing, with there being a sort of contest between you and lex trying to win over the people of metropolis. if you are more aggressive with situations, your vote will go down which could affect direction or interactions in metropolis, such as people running away in fear rather than running up to you in excitement. I think it would be an interesting take on the superhero game with the push being that its really *your* superman story and not just you playing a superman story hopefully one day we get something. would love any dc game really thats just outside of batman related stuff
I would love an epically made Superman game. I mean we’re talking once you complete all the main Earth missions you unlock other planets. Which unlocks open galaxy and then to open universe. Superman has helped many aliens on their home planet before. And had many space fights. Throw in some Warworld with Mongul. Hell add a storyline where you have to battle an entire armada. Which then can eventually lead to an epic story arc to Darkseid and Apokolips. Then finish off with Allstar Superman.
@@AListProductions exactly what I was thinking. DLC’s will make it last forever. I really do want everything you mentioned though. His powers, good fighting mechanics, no nerfing unless part of a storyline. A decent amount of classic Superman type of missions like carrying buildings around, catching airplanes, super speed around the earth. The fans are starving for someone to do it proper!!
@@HausOfMontague exactly! Imagine a mission where to have to stop a plane from crashing, smaller missions like putting out building fires, fun ones like stopping robbers, then the story could have doomsday or brainiac? Or even Zod. Someone who’s a real threat
@@AListProductions Yes!! Those villains would be awesome to fight in a well done Superman game. Speaking of Doomsday would be interesting to see them do Death of Superman DLC. Heck they could even thrown in Superboy Prime, maybe some Lantern action. The list can go forever 😂😂 it’s so fun though.
Awesome video btw!! Really hope we get a top tier superman game soon. I always thought it'd be kinda cool to play with a type of morality/popularity system for a Superman game rather than have a city health bar. That way it's not game over if you damage the city too much but there's an incentive to try not to. Maybe if you do cause absolute mayhem by accident, then grinding a few side missions like rescuing cats etc could help balance things back out. If there's a both a good and a bad ending to the story I think that would also add a ton of replayability 0_0.
Really good video! We can only hope that somewhere someone is actively working on a Superman game with these ideas. I’d literally just toss money at it.
Man you hit the nail on the head and even thought of some things that I did not with regard to an open world Superman game! It is completely doable, it is just that the right software development company needs to get behind it!! Another thing that I will add is it would really need to include a formidable rouges gallery for Superman to combat. Villains like Lex Luthor, Braniac, Metallo, Mr. Mxytzptlk, Doomsday need to be included!!
Thank you for this video, Don't judge but I got a bit emo watching this with some of the clips and original soundtrack as The original Superman Movies helped me through a very dark time in my youth and it has been a dream of mine to finally have a really epic amazing Superman game. I truly hope a game like this will be made.
Been wishing for this for years! Exactly the things on this list! Playing Spider-Man made me more excited for all this to be possible. My ideas, freely given so some dev out there can take'em if they like'em: Have him fight more space armadas and big Brainiac, Apokolips machines. Different animations for putting away human enemies. Come up with some original Kryptonian tech to make the gamey stuff or the lore protecting stuff more feasible; like putting parachutes on people. See Spidey's automatic wall-webbing falling enemies, Batman's "non-lethal" electric Batmobile. "Combo" counters for intentionally Taking hits; like purposely flying into missiles and non-kryptonite projectiles. Actually Use this character's near-invulnerability for creative gameplay.
Sorry late to the party. I love your video and I loved all your points and ideas. I'll add that they should display every power that he has. Super hearing was one I forgot about until you showed it at the end. Also you could have him fly and save people all over the world. He doesn't just save US citizens. Also you can have challenges like saving Lois of Jimmy in time, and monumental disasters like stopping a volcano or tornadoes. Last if they did depower him show him as a young Clark learning how to develop and use his powers. Challenges on not letting people catch him using them like Lana.
I'd like to see a Superman game, but the hard part about it is that him, being the good guy he is, always trying his best to pull back and not kill and avoid destroying everything around him, would need to be put under a lot of limitations. Batman games have almost no civilians around so the players wouldn't be able to hurt them, otherwise it'd be against his core, in Spidey's game, when you press to attack innocent ppl, the game makes you greet them, but the thing is, neither Batman nor Spidey have the same level of destruction power as Superman, they can get destructive, but not on planetary level like Superman. It would either need to set big battles on desert planets, or they would need to do some kind of punishment for each act of villainess the player does, like destroying things for fun. Superman is the kind of super powered human that could go through a mountain like it's nothing, so it really needs to be taken into consideration. Whenever there's some type of destruction around the city, it should never be Superman doing it, not on purpose at leat, he should be trying to stop the villains from doing so. For common thugs to be taken as some kind of threat, they must be using kryptonite bullets or weapons, and power armors that can take a Superman punch, or a laser beam, or anything he can do, otherwise it would just not be fun at all, 'cuz even though he's not immortal nor invincible, he is reeeeally close to that, so either the AI of the enemies is super well made and they're really clever when facing him, or they would need to be super ultra strong. Another problem with leaving Superman with no consequences and limitations to villanous acts the players would for sure make him do, is that we would not have a SUPERMAN game, we would have a Homelander game, or a Omni-Man game. So yeah, it would be great to have a game with him that works well, but he's a really hard character to adapt to things where there's interactivity and an open world (like I said, if the player can destroy cars, buildings, and kill civilians, good or bad, human or not, it's not Superman, if there's something like that in the game, it would be a scripted moment where he would feel the weight of being reckless).
Wow amazing love all the points you’ve made exactly what had to be said , could really do with a game like that , just to get lost in and forget for a couple hours a day , hoping this will get put into development 🤛🏽
Add that you can play as a member of the Superman Family too. There are multiple Superboys, and Supergirls. You can have Steel, Eradicator, Guardian, Gangbuster, and Thorn. There could be missions that can only be completed by certain characters.
Actual Game Developer Here... Let's see if I can answer some of these points. First off, yes 100% Superman needs a game like this. It would be amazing. But... 1) open world. Open worlds are all over the place in games. But the way they work is the area you are in is loaded, and everything else is removed. Most well known version of this is Minecraft's chunk system. Superman and Flash are just way too fast for this system. Modern computers can't handle it. Plus Superman can see through walls over any distance. We cannot render all of that. 2) destruction. Video game destruction can be very hard. Any game with fully destructible environment have fairly small maps. Usually not much more than one house, or one block. Superman needs at LEAST a whole city. Even Just Cause only has the red stuff blow up. It's just too much. 3) challenges. Superman is invincible. So what is the fail state? Any gamer can tell you that once invincibility cheat is turned on, the game get very boring, pretty quickly. We need challenges for fun, and Superman doesn't have any physical challenges. That's why most games power him down. Every goon can't be doomsday or darkseid, and anything less would get boring. 4) other games.. lots of bad Superman games are out there already. Publishers don't want to risk it. They think a Superman game is doomed to fail just in name alone. I don't agree, but it is on their minds. So yes, 100% Superman needs a game like this. But it's not within our current technology to do so. Personally, I think Superman needs a Telltale style game instead. It's well within our technology, and would suit the character perfectly. The physical challenges are largely meaningless to Superman so let's make it meaningless to the players too. Give us the choices, the moral dilemmas, and the relationships to juggle. A Telltale Superman game would be a better Superman game, than us trying to push computing power beyond it's current limits for a game that could still be less fun than spiderman or batman. Feel free to ask any game dev questions, and I will do my best to answer. Because I also really want to see an amazing Superman game.
I appreciate the reply but 2 notes on your point 1) fallout 76 and gtav mods have proven it can be functional without issues.and your point 2) fortnite is an open world br on a huge island where literally everything from trees to buildings to cars can be destroyed. So none are too far out of reach :) 3) I explain that In the video. You can have storylines with kryptonite involved, side quests that are time based, need to be accomplished in a certain speed or you fail, etc. easily solves this :)
@@AListProductions Amazing video btw! I'm keeping it short this time. Open world games are all over the place, and are not an issue for developers. The main issues for Superman is that a large open world is required for the flight & speed to feel fun and useful (as you mentioned in your video). Within that very large world there needs to be destructible environment, which if you want it to look good, is very difficult to combine with large scales. Games like Fortnite have "destructible" environments, but the objects just disappear and do not interact beyond that. Which is pure functional, and doesn't look great. Superman would need a more dynamic system. His super-senses also would need to be either not an active tool for the player to control, or severely limited. (Example: x-ray vision having a limited range) otherwise the open world would be rendering too much at a time. Games have draw distances because we can't render everything at once. Superman is also very powerful. To fulfill on that power fantasy we need to answer a few questions. 1) what is the gameplay loop? Gameplay needs to be fun, and at least a little challenging. As One Punch Man said: overwhelming strength is actually pretty boring. So we need to balance fun combat, and still feeling like Superman. I don't think powering him down with kryptonite, or just having him off-world, or only fighting aliens or robots is the right decision. As you said in the video: let us save cats, and stop bank robbers. It's a hard problem to balance. I also don't think time trials as a mechanic is a good idea, a few times in the story, sure, but not as a main mechanic. 2) how to make flying fun Flight is amazing, but hard to gamify. Pushing "forward" isn't very engaging. Spiderman and Batman are so fun because you need to work to stay going fast, gliding or swinging is way more fun than basic flying. Some serious rethinking needs to be done on how flying can be fun. This mechanic should be the building blocks of the entire gameplay, imo. The technology is almost to the point we need for the Superman game of our dreams. But, we need to solve some of these problems before it gets there. Superman needs unique gameplay. We need to find what that is. I don't think we will find what we need in existing games. Even if there are parts of other games that do what we want, that doesn't mean that is compatible with the rest of it. We do need to keep telling the studios that we want a Superman game! But we should also try to answer some gameplay question. They know the open world stuff, but they need to know it will be fun, and more importantly that it will sell. So even if it isn't perfect, we should support any promising Superman game. Thanks for continuing this discussion and bringing more attention to the hopes of a Superman game!
As a huge superman fan I would do whatever I needed to get a legitimate Superman game. This needs to happen and I hope this video finds it's way to someone that will use unreal engine 5. Not to mention the amount of money this game would create for whoever makes it.
Great video! I agree that we are long overdue for a good Superman game. Probably the closest one to decent game was Superman: Shadow of Apokolips; great voice cast from the animated series and decent gameplay. It was far from perfect though. However, the biggest issue about making a Superman game is making it challenging. We all want to feel like Supes while playing it, but it will get boring after awhile. I think we finally have the technology to make a massively huge map to explore and a game engine powerful enough to process his abilities. I like the idea of flying into space to quickly go to other locations like Smallville, the Fortress or even other places for special missions. The story will really have to sell this thing, though.
Great video! I’ve spent my whole life itching for a good Superman game. Superman returns broke my heart - best we’ve had imo but still nowhere close to as good as it could be. Video game development companies are missing out on a fortune. I don’t know any gamer, even casual gamers, who wouldn’t kill to see this.
I would like to see someday in an videogame style Animation the first Superman/Spider-Man Crossover, with the Injustice Superman and the PS4 Spider-Man.
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Great job again boss
The best!
One of favorite heroes for all time and really really hope that one day the Man Of Steel gets the real treatment he deserves. It is an injustice but in the end there will be justice. great video
You should get Angry Joe to watch this.
Really love this video here. The whole video carefully breaks down how well a Superman game truly can be. loved the concept video at the end!
Thank you bro! :D
@@ottosantiagolassus Because unlike your avatar Dr Manhattan, Superman is not invincible. It may seem that way from a human perspective but when you introduce threats like Darkseid, Doomsday, Brainiac, Zod and Mr Mxlsptlyx then Superman can be hurt and even killed. Actually Mr Mx might even provide a challenge to Manhattan and before anyone says anything I know I’ve probably spelt the mischievous imps name wrong
@@AListProductions We do have a great superman game. Just download superman mod and boom you have it.
Here are a few ideas I've been suggesting for several years now...
*▪Don't reduce his power; replicate his responsibility of controlling his superpowers so that he doesn't overdo it.* If you pour it on too much, you create collateral damage in the environment through the reckless use of your superpowers
*▪Game play mechanics should be based in having to hone his powers by hitting a 'sweet spot'.* Superman's perpetual challenge is to use Kryptonian superpowers to save the world when they could just as easily be used to break it. Simulate this challenge that he's always had to navigate in the comics
*▪Put a timer/destruction meter on each task.* Superman's job isn't to just beat up the bad guys. It's to save lives and property. Stop the redundant NPC enemies you have to wade through in level play before too much damage is done, otherwise Superman's not really saving the day now is he?
*•Remove these barriers in the boss fights.* Crank it up and cut loose with his powers when fighting supervillains in the boss fights
*▪Explore all 3 aspects of him -- Superman (hero); Clark Kent (investigative reporter); Kal El of Krypton (alien).* Have levels that require him to sneak around and uncover evidence as Clark Kent, the investigative reporter; levels where he can't use his superpowers. This incorporates the same fun of Batman and Spiderman games by using Clark as the detective
*▪Use corresponding villains for his three identities.* The Kal El/alien missions should see him facing General Zod, Brainiac, and Doomsday. Superman/hero gets Darkseid, Mongul, Bizarro, Cyborg Superman, Metallo, etc. The Clark Kent/investigator missions should put him on the trail of uncovering Lex Luthor
*▪Take him everywhere he has connections.* Don't just keep him in Metropolis the whole time. Take him to Smallville, the Fortress of Solitude, the Hall of Justice, even to outer space (to assist the Green Lantern Corps on a galactic mission or two!)
*▪Increase XP with heroic last second rescues that amazes everyone.* Get bonuses whenever you stop bullets, bombs, and trainwrecks at the last possible moment. Ya know, like a superhero!
*▪Use Superman to inspire hope.* That's why he's here in the first place, is it not? Make gameplay affect public opinion of you in Metropolis, and have the choices you make when stopping other supervillains earlier in the story determine the ending. If Superman has to always make the correct decisions every time, so should you
*▪Lex Luthor should be responsible for the most wretched things imaginable, but will get away with it no matter what.* Superman should personally know all the top secret science projects & classified military operations Lex is involved in, but Superman can never gain the indisputable evidence he'll need that'll stand up in court to legally bring down Lex. Have the people of Metropolis continue blindly adoring Lex as a genius & philanthropist. Since the point of Superman is to inspire hope, the point of Lex Luthor is to frustrate Superman so much that even he starts to question if it's hopeless in a world where men like Lex Luthor can rig the system and get away with their crimes
*▪The overall experience should not only be fun, but to emphasize the immense responsibility Superman has.* Storytelling in gaming has advanced enough by now that gamers could handle such a meta message. Who says a video game can't also have artistic merit?
*▪And for Chrissakes, no Batman appearances!* He's had enough movies, games, TV shows, and animated movies by now. The objective here is to establish Superman as a viable franchise character. If it's a hit, you can bring in Supergirl and Superboy into the fold for the sequels, but the focus must always remain on Superman
That's it, guys. That's your recipe for a good Superman video game. It can absolutely be achieved as long as you approach it with creativity, and honor the most storied source material in comic book history. It won't be easy, but a great Superman game never should be. Making good games for Superman is supposed to be difficult, otherwise the character would never evolve to overcome contemporary challenges
This is sick! I love the idea of the three identities style of missions!
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Really like this but I do admit that in order to not bombard the player with too many tasks have there be a button where Superman uses his super hearing in order to identify things in Metropolis, Smallville and even space. Have there also be many side quests.
Also make thug missions be more about trying to keep innocents health bars alive instead of your own.
Your mock-up was pretty dope and realistic. Looked crazy dope. Let’s just 🤞🏾they finally make this happen.
3:24 that’s what I’ve been thinking for a while. The Spider-Man games have laid a solid groundwork for potential Superman games. As much as I love the Arkham games and for Rocksteady to live out their dreams of finally making a Superman game, I don’t want the same gameplay setting as Arkham. I want Metropolis to be a living and breathing city like NY in Spider-Man. Superman as a character thrives in helping out citizens during their day to day lives. If we put him in an empty Metropolis with only criminals to fight, I’d say that effectively takes away a key aspect of what makes him Superman. He fights criminals, sure, but his purpose is to mostly save and help citizens. And in an empty Metropolis, I doubt he’d be doing much of that.
Oh yeah Spider-Man games def for the style of the world… gameplay of Spider-Man style I agree. Some Arkham Easter eggs and fighting attacks imo. I think of putting out fires, stopping robbery’s, saving cats from trees etc for Superman! 🔥🔥
@@AListProductions absolutely agree. Hell, I’d even want a mission of saving someone from jumping off a building like what we see in Superman Grounded or All Star Superman. :)
That why hes saying there should be no health bar! Super man is invincible, we already no that but that's not his purpose, his purpose is to save the citizens around him, the people he love the most! So a game could work without health bars and whatnot, it could be timed, like if you don't save enough citizens while fighting off the bad guy you fail the mission!
Those spiderman games should have other playable heroes!
Yes I agree 👍💯👏🙌👌😊....but a superman games 🎮needs to have building destruction people deaths or at least like arkham knockouts and we are talking super man laser eyes like in superman vs. Batman movie where you see the fight of zod and superman inside a building blasting laser eye blast through it cutting it like fruit ninja to a building and watching it collapse would be one of the best displays ever in a game building destruction and flying speed brings a pull behind it dragging everything not nailed down lol and best way I can explain is comparisons of Magneto in that Nemesis game where he can drag it all of the scenery items cars and debris around in a circle and you can control and throw it but imagine this with Superman flying really fast dragging a pool of objects behind him and then turning left really fast while you're flying forward and just throwing all those objects past you at an enemy this game I wish I could work on it I really do
I'd love for a game like this to come out and I've been wanting this type of Superman game since I played the Nintendo version of Superman. There's soo much content and possibilities here. Great video man 👍
Thanks bro! Same!!
Love your deepfake videos man
It's crazy that it's 2022 and we don't have a modern Superman game, it seems like developers avoid it like the plague because they see it as too big a risk.
Would also be great to play as Clark anytime we like, in Metropolis or even just on the farm and in Smallville. It's something that i really thought Arkham Knight would have, the freedom to play as Bruce. With the character of Superman it would be essenital i think, Bruce becomes Batman and it's his life, Clark is tring to juggle being Superman while also a job and a love life. We need that Clark gameplay!
It’s a risk when done wrong for sure. Movies, TV and comics over the years prove their is profit to be made. I hope someone does it sooner rather than later!
And I agree Clark would be great! Even better because while Superman people on the streets could be high fiving and cheering… then as clark “hey watch where you’re walking” etc
@@AListProductions it's WAAAY lesser risk than what WB is doing right now with Suicide Squad game that nobody wanted, game that doesn't even look interesting, just ordinary shooter with little bit of super powers on long cooldowns.
But at least they had enough brains to do Wonder Woman reskin for Shadow of Mordor
I mean, they literally won first ever fan nomination Oscars award for a scene they told to remove and refused to restore for 3 years.
In addition; start off as superboy who doesn't just fly yet but jumps higher than the average human being; iconic blue jeans & black "s" t-shirt.. .get a job at the daily planet which in turn Clark has assignments/pictures to turn in, regardless how he gets them. In fact the daily planet would be good for putting Clark on mission where superman's interference isn't need, neither should Clark be discovered as Superman, vice versa.
Definitely add Bizarro whether it be boss fight, skin, or multiplayer.
Then there's a variety of superman stories that could be infused with time travel or dlc; red son, kingdom come, all star etc.
I'm all for this game & it's collectives edition."🦸👍
@@fryyking2958 along with skins that can be used
Well, there is a Suicide Squad game coming out from Rocksteady. Superman is in that one. Should the response to him in that game be great, maybe Rocksteady will be allowed to do a full-on Superman game. Only time will tell though.
You pretty much summed up everything I’d like to see in a Superman game, I’m sure one day a studio will come along and finally get it right.
Also, I recently saw the interview you did on kashchei2003’s channel and as a fan editor myself it was really enlightening to listen to and hear about the creative process that others go through. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the kind words and awesome support my friend!
Superman deserves a good game
yes!
Oh duuuude. Hell yes! I’d totally be down for a Superman game like this. Damn this sounds so fun 😭 I especially love the speed of Superman. Running as the flash has always been my favorite thing to do with the LEGO games. So having that much speed with Superman would be hella fun
Right! It would be a huge selling game! Thanks for watching bro!
This was a good video with a surprising ending. Would love to see a real attempt at a Superman game like that.
Thanks For watching and for the kind words!
@@AListProductions It'll happen, I would put it towards the end of THIS gen, but probably into next, maybe even a launch game. I say this because they know it will be popular, and they are right - if they think that - but past failures make them careful to fail again. They have the tech to do it now, as YOU just showed. Do not fret it will come, and I will definitely be buying it - ALSO agree I find it funny that you used the exact example of one way to have a fully powered supes against regular humans that I used. A bullet time idea, Xray heatvision punching through walls.. All of it. they would do a button combination if they wanted something to make it feel like you were moving in and making his do the move, etc. It is fully possible with current tech
I feel like suicide squad kill the justice leagues SUCCESS is paramount to us getting a game like this though, so hopefully they knock it out of the park, AND it sells well, and its loved by us all
A story driven open world game will be perfect. Switch between Clark and Superman to develop an engaging story. Combat and fights could be be pulled of if enough effort is being put in and it has the potential to be one of the best. I hope some studio come forward to make an ambitious Superman game.
Seeing the "extra" concepts at the end gave me goosebumps... just imagining selecting a suit and loading into a world where I can have my dream of being Superman... *sniffle*
Thank you!
I think instead of the city health bar, there should be a reputation meter, similar to Infamous 2. If you stop crimes and save people, your reputation goes up and civilians applaud and cheer when they see you. If you choose to just destroy buildings and set places on fire, your reputation goes down and people actively run away from you, and maybe if it goes down low enough, police and military would act hostile to you, like the star system in GTA.
I like it
@@AListProductions Thanks!
Extremely well done. Just one more thing, it would be great to have the main characters playable through the game. Like you did with Christopher Reeve. Dean Cain, Tom Welling, Brandon Routh, Henry Cavill etc.
YOU ARE SAYING EVERYTHING WARNER BROTHERS AND DC'S NEED TO HEAR!!!
Also, don't you think guys that it is about time we have a great Justice League game?
Cus I think we Do!
This would be such a dope game that mod and edditing of yours at the end looks amazing!
Great video and really nice to see more people making videos on how a Superman game can definitely work and that he isn’t really that hard to do. Too many people or should I say “casuals” always complain that he is too OP and that there is no challenge which is complete stupidity. It’s not that hard to realize to just give him enemies on his level and it should be fine without leaning on crutches like Kryptonite or Red Sun.
Exactly! Misc missions around the map for side quests can be “save cats from trees”, “stop bank robbers” “stop car theif” “put out fire” etc. fun stuff you can fully use his abilities… and the main story incorporate kryptonite, Zod , doomsday, or brainiac. - thanks for watching!
When he's not in physical danger himself from supervillains or weaknesses, the emphasis should be on the people and the city being in danger. When too many people die and there's too much damage, game over.
@@axebomber2108 Exactly right, quick time events should definitely be incorporated mid battle to save someone trapped in a car or under some rubble. Like an enemy jumps on you, tap X button to get them off, quickly survey the civilian for a quick time event, save them or others and get back into the action. It shouldn’t feel repetitive but something of a balance, something natural to Superman and what he does.
It just can’t be repetitive to the player like Superman Returns was.
Excellent video, bud! Really hoping they develop a Superman video game soon, especially after the Wonder Woman announcement.
Thanks and Agreed! Is her game open world? Or do we know anything?
@@AListProductions Yes! It’s all but outright confirmed the game is in Themyscira. The teaser description says Wonder Woman will be “Open-world action game” that uses Monolith’s Nemesis System that started with their Middle-Earth games Shadow of Mordor/War. So we also can assume that the combat will be like Arkham since those games had essentially the same style.
I think that it just comes down to the amount of effort it would take, perhaps when we have self-generating technology kind of like what they use in elite dangerous, maybe then once we master something like that but more in a more detailed level then we can have something like this.
The problem is is you need everything to be destructible cities would have to be destructible, you would have to fly through a building. To punch through people through buildings. But more than any of this you would have to capture the emotion of Superman
It would have to be a game about being a good person That's the other problem. People like violent games are Superman game really has to be rewarding for not being violent. Meaning that as Superman you are rewarded for saving people's lives, you feel the thrill of catching somebody before they hit the ground, you go up against these insanely violent and evil opponents and you know that you're the good guy it feels like you're the good guy You're saving people. The NPCs would have to react to you, they would have to show emotion, show that they need you and you would have to be willing and able to reciprocate that love. A Superman game would have to be a very real game and I think that's what it comes down to.
Superman is a very multi-dimensional character I think Batman is as well but I think Superman is like the most multi-dimensional superhero amongst the major superheroes. He loves people he truly does his heart is made of gold, the best Superman comics are not the most violent despite what some people may think it's the ones we're Superman shows that despite the fact he is hard to hurt he's constantly in a state of near panic to save those around him so the game would have to fill you of adrenaline because you were literally chasing against time to save people.
Lois Lane would also have to be a big part of that so you would have to have these NPCs that are very multi-dimensional, but they would have to react to things that you do if it is open world and you decide to become an evil Superman you need to feel the emotional crush of lois lane despising you.
To know that she'll never love you again because you've done evil things. They're also has to be other superheroes that can rise up against you or help you depending on how you behave in the game. And vice versa super villains that help you or rise up against you depending on how you behave. If you choose to remain a good guy throughout the game and you truly live out the game to the best of your ability to be as Superman as you can be then there has to be super villains that can alter their behavior and calculate differently and try to outmaneuver you because that's the only way Superman game will be good. It has to be truly open world those super villains are always up to things, their behaving and hiding in the darkness, you might see signs of their behavior you might see civilians getting kidnapped or hurt or dying and you have to inspect that area you have to use your X-ray vision to try to figure out what's going on Where's the chaos, do you understand what I'm saying? This game would have to be like unlike any game that ever existed.
Totally agree on "a game about being a good person" part
Excellent video bro! There are so many people that need to see this and be taught some basic common sense! It’s criminal that we don’t have this type of Superman game yet! All I can hope is that when it finally does arrive it will be well worth the wait!
I agree! We need it. I would dedicate so much time to the game lol!
I really loved this concept, I'm not into playing games, but I would definitely give this game a chance 😻👏🏻
You’re missing out on some classics!
Yes,We all deserve a Good Superman
And the gameplay you showed at the end
That was good
nicely put together and i like that u added in the very recent sandbox at 4:17 that i saw in another video a few days ago
Really nice work at the end. It looked like a genuine game. Clearly, you are being modest, but your passion shows.
I love every idea you had about this Superman concept 💪💪
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
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I feel like a good health system for a Superman game wouldn't be Superman's actual HP, but Metropolis' HP. Like, if too many people are killed or something along the lines of that, then you would fail the level/mission. Kind of like Megaton Rainfall, a VR game I personally love mostly because It's the closest thing to being Superman in a video game that I've ever seen.
4:47 the theme in the background would be perfect in this game. It’s different from the movies etc. it’s like Spider-Man PS4 and how that theme is catchy but also different from everything else I personally love it and also love this concept.
This was custom score from one of my films :)
@@AListProductions OH NO WAY! That’s so epic good job on that. You captured the delicacy and hopeful vibe of Superman in this theme. It differentiates itself from all other Superman themes and it’s an amazing thing. Personally I think it’s kinda hard to step out of John Williams shadow but for me you accomplished that. If it’s not a hassle is there anyway I could have a link or something to listen to it?
@@CaramelloGuy sadly it’s not online anymore! Shoot me an email and I can send you it :)
@@AListProductions What is your email fellow sir? I would love to listen to it.
This is really great video. I love your ideas for the game and all the concept art you created. Love that you have a Christopher Reeve likeness head. Would be great to get some audio clips from him in there as well. Again really well done. Would love to see this as a real game!
Your mock-up was absolutely incredible awesome job I’d love to see a game like this
Love to see videos like this, i have a feeling 2022 is gonna be great!
Thanks me too!
I recall that Superman is vulnerable to magic as well as kryptonite. I think that would be a worthy avenue to explore. A villain could gain control of Zatanna and John Constantine and set up the kind of challenge we’ve never seen before.
I like the concept video, but think it needs more rings to fly through. Note to any prospective developers, that was entirely sarcastic.
Dude legit. That would be an awesome game your video mock-up was amazing. I don't know how a company wouldn't make that game if it was pitched to them
Thanks very much! I wish / hope someone in that position sees this and decides to make it. I don’t even need credit I just want it made!
As a fan of Superman and videogames, I gotta say that your concept is... Amazing! We need this to really happen, gotta love to play that game as much times as I can. :'D
This is something a true superman fan would say. 100% agree with this
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That concept of the game was really awesome! Great job!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
This was a great video! Good job man!
Thanks!
Chainsaw!!! I’m super surprised you haven’t watched and shared your thoughts on our Star Wars Film. I hope one day you get the time to check it out.
The king has returned.
No you!
Omg how do we build this game, this was the best video I have seen on RUclips for years. I see your vision. Partitions need to be signed to approach companies with the back to create this.
I have lived and adored the icon for years. What a powerful idea. You have my full support.
Glad you brought up powering down Superman I have noticed this argument constantly yet no one powers down some other godlike characters in gaming. Dante and Kratos come to mind but also Batman and Spider-Man aren't powered down either and are experienced.
Everytime people bring up a Superman game also they always want to do another origin crap and it's like wth? Spider-Man nor Batman had any of that but for some reason folks think Superman needs a origin tale for a game. People aren't thinking outside the box here when it comes to the character or Tell Tale nonsense I have seen folks pitch and I'm like " I don't care I want to be Superman "
I agree! I think it's just people can't think of a way to do the game with him at full power, but its really not that hard. Loads of franchises like you mentioned have people full powered. No one wants to play a game or series based on (insert any character) and they are powered down, they are playing them because they LOVE that character not a weaker version of that.
Yes! I think start with him having been superman already for like 4 years, and if you want fun flash backs that can be part of the storyline.
@@AListProductions Excatly do the Spider Man PS4 approach , where he's been Superman for 5 years, 6 or 4 like you said and let's say he has fought a good chunk of his rouges gallery but not everyone like in Spider Man.
He fought Metallo, Parasite , Toyman, Atomic Skull , Livewire and Lex Luthor and the Intergang and Bruno Manheim but hasn't encountered like General Zod, Mongul , Darkseid or Brainaic yet nor has he encountered Phantom Zone Criminals yet or Cadmus and like Kara Zor El just arrived on earth . Just has Spider Man and Batman had villains not part of their rouges gallery fight them ( Deathstroke and Taskmaster) have Superman fight the same , have a fight where Superman is battling Major Force etc or Captain Atom ( before he becomes your ally )
@@kingcyrusthegreat3887 yep! I hope a studio takes it on and makes it! Endless possibilities!!
Im glad this video was recommended to be. So well made. Great work man
A open world justice league game would be cool.
Single player has pick a Hero and each hero has their own storyline or play online for the justice league storyline.
I think something along this line would be sick.
that would've be nice
You guys have a great concept at the end. I love that concept. I would buy it.
The open world concept is on point ! Really got me thinking about the endless possibilities, like taking superman not only into space , but to other planets even! Make it open universe!
Oh yeah for sure! I think that's where the concept of "leaving" areas for seperate loading screens. Imagine going to the moon, sun, mars, etc!
Melts an entire restaurant of innocent people. "I help wherever I'm needed"
This video is right on point. It's EXACTLY how this "future" game should be and it's about time they start working on it - with the mentality, references, and nuance you're suggesting. Rocksteady should definitely be the ones to make this video game. They've done such a great job with the Batman series that they should invest more in making superhero games, with as much time that's needed and attention to detail, as they've done with the Batman series, with a series of Superman games. Best of luck!
I am all for this idea, and at the end with Tim Daly as the voice of Superman? Perfection.
I completely agree with you. We do need a good Superman video game. I like the concept of the the game but when you change skins It would be better if you have it in the fortress of solitude background. Just a thought
Dude that ending was so cool
Thank you very much!
Nice game concept the breaking of sound barriers and open world feeling
i love the idea of flying into the sky and it opening up a map of the world.
metropolis / smallville / fortress of solitude / watchtower
having a metropolis that is insanely huge bigger than gta5 then fly up and it open up a map to travel then cutscene is him flying into space slowly and into orbin then flying down showing him flying down and it loading you into the sky.
smallville would be awesome having you fly through seemingly endless corn fields and the small city to see your parents.
fortress would be super training for superman and upgrades.
watchtower would be superman interacting with others and finding missions on earth to stop with ar training like batman arkham knight where its all simulated fights to learn just like fortress.
but one thing i'd love is switching between clark and superman. you walk around metropolis like gta and can take pictures and write reports from events happening in the city. like random things. like a robbery going on and you change into superman and get clark to show up after and interview people from it and it goes into the daily planet.
switching back and forth. and you switch to clark in smallville to go into the school and businesses.
if they add superboy and others it would be cool but superman alone would be great. superman returns was a great game.
100% ! You walk around as clark you could have people be like “watch where you’re going” etc since he’s just a guy, could be cool!
Yes, yes, yes. 100% As a superman fan, this is the game I want and the game so many comic fans want. Excellent video.
I'm really crying right now seeing this video, Superman needs to be on top again!
awesome video you sum it up. I really love to see a Superman open world game come to life!! we all been waiting so long, hopefully a gaming studio can make it happen :)
Fingers crossed! Thanks for watching!
The legend is back. What I like to see!
Thank you!
im glad youre still making youtube videos. i remeber that video "batman vs superman" from 2011. loved that video so much as a kid.
Thanks! Might have slowed over the years but always appreciate comments like these
@@AListProductions little did we know that in 5 years it would happen
@@dontwatchanime8063 damn right!!
The game would need to revolve around who Superman is as a character; a beacon of hope and justice. Too many people focus on the POWER of Superman instead of the Kansas farmboy he really is. To that end, I'd want a mixture of dialog options and writing that would be a mixture of Fallout: New Vegas, Telltale's The Walking Dead, KOTOR 1 and 2, and Detroit: Become Human.
Have Superman's missions actually become moral conundrums, with some sort of morality system where you can make tough choices as Superman, for better or worse. For example, someone's about to kill themselves because of a terminal illness. Do you, as Superman, save their life, or do you allow them to kill themselves? Or do you HELP them do it? And all of your choices would influence the NPCs in the game and lead to multiple endings based on your choices.
And depending on how you play, you can open new dialog options in other missions. Maybe you did the "Halls of Evil" sidequest before this one, so now you know there's a cure for the terminal illness, BUT it turns out that the person didn't have the best life anyway and WANTS to die regardless, but their family wants them alive. Do you force the cure on them anyway?
And then these choices reflect the combat missions you'd have in the game. Maybe the family of the suicidal person tries to help you in a battle against Metallo, or they've actually funded a taskforce to try and take you down. Your decisions as Earth's Guardian would make the game easier or harder, and even the CORRECT choice could make the game harder as well.
Even sidequests would have importance, like helping a local recreation center curb rising crime rates in the inner city. Your actions would either make things worse, better, or somehow there would be no change whatsoever. But the environment would change permanently, and you'd either have more random enemies to fight or less.
I agree with everything else in this video, but that's the kind of Superman game I'd want to see. You're Earth's defender. Now you have to live up to the name of Superman and actually make extremely tough decisions with almost every mission you have. Simple "punch the bad guy" missions would actually be the easiest part of the game in comparison, and even then you'd have to try minimizing collateral damage.
Cool concept dude 👍🏾 Would be great to see this come to life.
Thank you! I agree
Great video!
I always thought one way to do a franchise of games is to start him off in Smallville, learn his powers and face more earth bound villains like Lex Luthor, Metallo, Parasite, Livewire, even some classics like Toyman or Prankster. He takes down Lex Luthor and the end has a tease for Zod and the Phantom Zone.
The second game he takes on Kryptonians as well as Brainiac.
The third he takes on Darkseid and Doomsday. As each game progresses he goes from Earth, to space, to the afterlife, to Apocalypse
Awesome
Came from Twitter and I'm really glad I clicked the link, its lit!
This vid is so on point its kinda ridiculous you even had to make it at this point.
With all the gigntic open world games we have now I cant believe we're still waiting on a good Superman game, hell we're even getting a Wonder Woman game which is dope but getting a Gotham Knights game before a Superman one when we've already had 4 Arkham games and a Suicide Squad Vs The Justice League on the horizon too is more of the same.
Don't get me wrong I'm so down for the new games it's just frustrating they haven't capitalized on a Superman game yet.
Thanks for the vid bro!
I agree so much! Thanks for watching and for the long comment and feedback! Fingers crossed we get this one day!
@@AListProductions No problem buddy, sorry for the essay tho lol
@@ItsRichyMo no! I love reading longer comments the most!!
Great video. I've wondered about every point you raised here, and I totally agree that it's such a missed opportunity. The mock-footage at the end is fantastic.
Thank you so much my friend!
Beautiful idea man
Fantastic Post, AListProduction!!!
As a Superman Fan for 5 decades, I think what they need is have places all over Earth in NODES, like Paris (and the nuclear bomb in the elevator as a nod to Superman II), and perhaps some other French cities and landscapes. When finished, the man of steel has a cut scene of flying over the planet like when Christopher Reeve flies into space, orbiting Earth, where he'll go to the next "Hot Spot". Once complete in any mission, he will be able to fly around in any of the previously visited nodes and have random events happen, though no more "Main Campaign" level missions there. Off to Afghanistan, to stop a "rogue nation" from unleashing nerve toxin on the populace, while battling mechs that have superspeed and Red Radiation lasers, temporarily weakening Supes if hit. What's next? How about a trip into space to CAREFULLY repair the International Space Station, which has a ruptured fuel line, and therefore a decaying orbit. Kal must repair the busted out fuel lines, and gently give nudges to the platform, or it could break up all over Earth orbit, and thereby not only put the astronauts in mortal danger, but also make it hazardous for future launches due to the immense debris field and falling larger pieces of the station.
What's that you say? The Mariana Trench is experiencing tectonic activity? Who's this a job for? SUPERMAN!! Someone said they saw Metallo attacking Metropolis? Who ya gonna call? SUPERMAN!! What's different this time? You've got superspeed, super breath, freeze breath, heat vision, powerful punches, and flight to show this goon what it's REALLY like to go up against the Man of Steel! Along the way, there are a vast array of mutants, aliens, and techno villains that can give our hero some irritation, and because he's so powerful, he has to gauge his strength so as not to put them out of commission permanently. Need a world-ending scenario? Mongul, Darkseid, Luthor, Parasite, Brainiac, General Zod, Hank Henshaw, even Mr. Mxyzptlk for just plain silliness to mix things up a bit (perhaps literally). The list goes on and on.
The whole thing here is NOT about meeting Lois for a date, or to arrive to work in time without Perry White chewing out Clark Kent. This is about Superman at his most awesome! A crowbar to the head? "What was that? Did something throw popcorn at me". Try a 10-kiloton bomb, and he just may take notice. How fast is he? Love the Bullet-Time reference so much!!! Use that X-Ray vision, punch through walls and pull those bad guys right out of the room they were in. Fantastic idea! The ideas are only limited by the development team. But if they're smart, they'll listen to the fans. "Let's run over Superman with a steamroller! That will flatten him"!!! Superman sneezes and launches it 2 miles down range, and into a lake. "Let's shoot him with our guns that go PEW PEW". DUDE, he can withstand a NUKE!!! If they make this game right, "You'll Believe a Man Can Fly"!!!
Open up forums for ideas, and of include things NOT to include in the game. My #1 bad ideas by developers for all of his games? Stop depowering him and then have him earn power-ups!!! Bring him home, and don't look back! He's a SUPER MAN; keep it that way! RIBBIT!!!
Wow. Looks so good.
Excellent video! Been wanting a good Superman game since I’ve been a gamer
Great video. I love the Tim Daly voice over during the hypothetical gameplay footage. I like George Newbern and the rest of them, but Tim Daly was always my favorite.
Yeah I had to come up with something in the mock up haha
very very good man! congratulations for the video, who knows we will be close to a superman game.
Great job man! we definitely deserve a Superman game. I owned the Superman Return game. after completing the game, I was pleased and truly hoped that they would continue. so I hope they're watching this! your idea and mix-match of games are spots on.👌
Thank you!
for a few years now ive had this crazy idea for a cool superman game which basically includes all the points you bring up and more. One thing though is it would depower superman, however not for the whole game. you would start out fully powered for like an opening tutorial bit, then story reasons get you depowered some, and then over the course of the game you get stronger and stronger to when you would be at your full strength so people get time to learn and focus on his different strengths. the main story would also be more RPG like in progression and events where you have multiple ways to handle them leading to some different outcomes. (this way you can't have people complaining about superman not being superman because its literally up to you to figure out). building on that, instead of a metropolis health bar, its more of a metropolis popularity thing, with there being a sort of contest between you and lex trying to win over the people of metropolis. if you are more aggressive with situations, your vote will go down which could affect direction or interactions in metropolis, such as people running away in fear rather than running up to you in excitement. I think it would be an interesting take on the superhero game with the push being that its really *your* superman story and not just you playing a superman story
hopefully one day we get something. would love any dc game really thats just outside of batman related stuff
I would love an epically made Superman game.
I mean we’re talking once you complete all the main Earth missions you unlock other planets. Which unlocks open galaxy and then to open universe. Superman has helped many aliens on their home planet before. And had many space fights. Throw in some Warworld with Mongul. Hell add a storyline where you have to battle an entire armada. Which then can eventually lead to an epic story arc to Darkseid and Apokolips. Then finish off with Allstar Superman.
100%, that stuff could even be expansive DLCs after the game has been out for 6 months.
@@AListProductions exactly what I was thinking. DLC’s will make it last forever. I really do want everything you mentioned though. His powers, good fighting mechanics, no nerfing unless part of a storyline. A decent amount of classic Superman type of missions like carrying buildings around, catching airplanes, super speed around the earth. The fans are starving for someone to do it proper!!
@@HausOfMontague exactly! Imagine a mission where to have to stop a plane from crashing, smaller missions like putting out building fires, fun ones like stopping robbers, then the story could have doomsday or brainiac? Or even Zod. Someone who’s a real threat
@@AListProductions Yes!! Those villains would be awesome to fight in a well done Superman game. Speaking of Doomsday would be interesting to see them do Death of Superman DLC. Heck they could even thrown in Superboy Prime, maybe some Lantern action. The list can go forever 😂😂 it’s so fun though.
@@HausOfMontague they are missing out on literally free money!
It would also be awesome to tie it in to the Arkham series somehow
Awesome video btw!! Really hope we get a top tier superman game soon. I always thought it'd be kinda cool to play with a type of morality/popularity system for a Superman game rather than have a city health bar. That way it's not game over if you damage the city too much but there's an incentive to try not to. Maybe if you do cause absolute mayhem by accident, then grinding a few side missions like rescuing cats etc could help balance things back out. If there's a both a good and a bad ending to the story I think that would also add a ton of replayability 0_0.
You have my support brother
Great video man, you touched all the aspects of a great superman game. Thanks a lot
Thank you for watching!
Awesome! Would love to play this kind of game. Hopefully some developers see this.
I’d love for it to be made!
Really good video! We can only hope that somewhere someone is actively working on a Superman game with these ideas. I’d literally just toss money at it.
Would make loads!!
Man you hit the nail on the head and even thought of some things that I did not with regard to an open world Superman game! It is completely doable, it is just that the right software development company needs to get behind it!!
Another thing that I will add is it would really need to include a formidable rouges gallery for Superman to combat. Villains like Lex Luthor, Braniac, Metallo, Mr. Mxytzptlk, Doomsday need to be included!!
Very true!!
Thank you for this video, Don't judge but I got a bit emo watching this with some of the clips and original soundtrack as The original Superman Movies helped me through a very dark time in my youth and it has been a dream of mine to finally have a really epic amazing Superman game.
I truly hope a game like this will be made.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Been craving an arkham/spiderman style game for so long.
Superman is my second favorite superhero next Spiderman and yes the possibilities are endless so I hope they make this happen. It would be epic
Damn man that Superman game look really great! WB should listen to your ideas.
Been wishing for this for years! Exactly the things on this list! Playing Spider-Man made me more excited for all this to be possible.
My ideas, freely given so some dev out there can take'em if they like'em: Have him fight more space armadas and big Brainiac, Apokolips machines. Different animations for putting away human enemies.
Come up with some original Kryptonian tech to make the gamey stuff or the lore protecting stuff more feasible; like putting parachutes on people. See Spidey's automatic wall-webbing falling enemies, Batman's "non-lethal" electric Batmobile.
"Combo" counters for intentionally Taking hits; like purposely flying into missiles and non-kryptonite projectiles. Actually Use this character's near-invulnerability for creative gameplay.
Sorry late to the party. I love your video and I loved all your points and ideas. I'll add that they should display every power that he has. Super hearing was one I forgot about until you showed it at the end. Also you could have him fly and save people all over the world. He doesn't just save US citizens. Also you can have challenges like saving Lois of Jimmy in time, and monumental disasters like stopping a volcano or tornadoes. Last if they did depower him show him as a young Clark learning how to develop and use his powers. Challenges on not letting people catch him using them like Lana.
Oh guau 🤩, you were talking about it and I was like, “where’s that game? Me want a game with all that he’s saying.”
I'd like to see a Superman game, but the hard part about it is that him, being the good guy he is, always trying his best to pull back and not kill and avoid destroying everything around him, would need to be put under a lot of limitations. Batman games have almost no civilians around so the players wouldn't be able to hurt them, otherwise it'd be against his core, in Spidey's game, when you press to attack innocent ppl, the game makes you greet them, but the thing is, neither Batman nor Spidey have the same level of destruction power as Superman, they can get destructive, but not on planetary level like Superman. It would either need to set big battles on desert planets, or they would need to do some kind of punishment for each act of villainess the player does, like destroying things for fun. Superman is the kind of super powered human that could go through a mountain like it's nothing, so it really needs to be taken into consideration. Whenever there's some type of destruction around the city, it should never be Superman doing it, not on purpose at leat, he should be trying to stop the villains from doing so.
For common thugs to be taken as some kind of threat, they must be using kryptonite bullets or weapons, and power armors that can take a Superman punch, or a laser beam, or anything he can do, otherwise it would just not be fun at all, 'cuz even though he's not immortal nor invincible, he is reeeeally close to that, so either the AI of the enemies is super well made and they're really clever when facing him, or they would need to be super ultra strong.
Another problem with leaving Superman with no consequences and limitations to villanous acts the players would for sure make him do, is that we would not have a SUPERMAN game, we would have a Homelander game, or a Omni-Man game.
So yeah, it would be great to have a game with him that works well, but he's a really hard character to adapt to things where there's interactivity and an open world (like I said, if the player can destroy cars, buildings, and kill civilians, good or bad, human or not, it's not Superman, if there's something like that in the game, it would be a scripted moment where he would feel the weight of being reckless).
I see your vision it's beautiful
Im all for this..it looks fantastic!
Wow amazing love all the points you’ve made exactly what had to be said , could really do with a game like that , just to get lost in and forget for a couple hours a day , hoping this will get put into development 🤛🏽
Thank you! I hope they do it!
Add that you can play as a member of the Superman Family too. There are multiple Superboys, and Supergirls. You can have Steel, Eradicator, Guardian, Gangbuster, and Thorn. There could be missions that can only be completed by certain characters.
Dude!!!!! This would be badass, especially as evil super man
This was SO well done!
I would love for a flash version of this video awesome stuff dude completely agree ❤
Actual Game Developer Here... Let's see if I can answer some of these points.
First off, yes 100% Superman needs a game like this. It would be amazing. But...
1) open world. Open worlds are all over the place in games. But the way they work is the area you are in is loaded, and everything else is removed. Most well known version of this is Minecraft's chunk system.
Superman and Flash are just way too fast for this system. Modern computers can't handle it. Plus Superman can see through walls over any distance. We cannot render all of that.
2) destruction. Video game destruction can be very hard. Any game with fully destructible environment have fairly small maps. Usually not much more than one house, or one block. Superman needs at LEAST a whole city. Even Just Cause only has the red stuff blow up. It's just too much.
3) challenges. Superman is invincible. So what is the fail state? Any gamer can tell you that once invincibility cheat is turned on, the game get very boring, pretty quickly. We need challenges for fun, and Superman doesn't have any physical challenges. That's why most games power him down. Every goon can't be doomsday or darkseid, and anything less would get boring.
4) other games.. lots of bad Superman games are out there already. Publishers don't want to risk it. They think a Superman game is doomed to fail just in name alone. I don't agree, but it is on their minds.
So yes, 100% Superman needs a game like this. But it's not within our current technology to do so.
Personally, I think Superman needs a Telltale style game instead. It's well within our technology, and would suit the character perfectly. The physical challenges are largely meaningless to Superman so let's make it meaningless to the players too. Give us the choices, the moral dilemmas, and the relationships to juggle. A Telltale Superman game would be a better Superman game, than us trying to push computing power beyond it's current limits for a game that could still be less fun than spiderman or batman.
Feel free to ask any game dev questions, and I will do my best to answer. Because I also really want to see an amazing Superman game.
I appreciate the reply but 2 notes on your point 1) fallout 76 and gtav mods have proven it can be functional without issues.and your point 2) fortnite is an open world br on a huge island where literally everything from trees to buildings to cars can be destroyed. So none are too far out of reach :)
3) I explain that In the video. You can have storylines with kryptonite involved, side quests that are time based, need to be accomplished in a certain speed or you fail, etc. easily solves this :)
@@AListProductions Amazing video btw!
I'm keeping it short this time.
Open world games are all over the place, and are not an issue for developers. The main issues for Superman is that a large open world is required for the flight & speed to feel fun and useful (as you mentioned in your video).
Within that very large world there needs to be destructible environment, which if you want it to look good, is very difficult to combine with large scales. Games like Fortnite have "destructible" environments, but the objects just disappear and do not interact beyond that. Which is pure functional, and doesn't look great. Superman would need a more dynamic system.
His super-senses also would need to be either not an active tool for the player to control, or severely limited. (Example: x-ray vision having a limited range) otherwise the open world would be rendering too much at a time. Games have draw distances because we can't render everything at once.
Superman is also very powerful. To fulfill on that power fantasy we need to answer a few questions.
1) what is the gameplay loop?
Gameplay needs to be fun, and at least a little challenging. As One Punch Man said: overwhelming strength is actually pretty boring. So we need to balance fun combat, and still feeling like Superman. I don't think powering him down with kryptonite, or just having him off-world, or only fighting aliens or robots is the right decision. As you said in the video: let us save cats, and stop bank robbers. It's a hard problem to balance. I also don't think time trials as a mechanic is a good idea, a few times in the story, sure, but not as a main mechanic.
2) how to make flying fun
Flight is amazing, but hard to gamify. Pushing "forward" isn't very engaging. Spiderman and Batman are so fun because you need to work to stay going fast, gliding or swinging is way more fun than basic flying. Some serious rethinking needs to be done on how flying can be fun. This mechanic should be the building blocks of the entire gameplay, imo.
The technology is almost to the point we need for the Superman game of our dreams. But, we need to solve some of these problems before it gets there. Superman needs unique gameplay. We need to find what that is. I don't think we will find what we need in existing games. Even if there are parts of other games that do what we want, that doesn't mean that is compatible with the rest of it.
We do need to keep telling the studios that we want a Superman game! But we should also try to answer some gameplay question. They know the open world stuff, but they need to know it will be fun, and more importantly that it will sell. So even if it isn't perfect, we should support any promising Superman game.
Thanks for continuing this discussion and bringing more attention to the hopes of a Superman game!
Definitely need a Superman game. I was saying this to myself. Good video
As a huge superman fan I would do whatever I needed to get a legitimate Superman game. This needs to happen and I hope this video finds it's way to someone that will use unreal engine 5. Not to mention the amount of money this game would create for whoever makes it.
Great video! I agree that we are long overdue for a good Superman game. Probably the closest one to decent game was Superman: Shadow of Apokolips; great voice cast from the animated series and decent gameplay. It was far from perfect though.
However, the biggest issue about making a Superman game is making it challenging. We all want to feel like Supes while playing it, but it will get boring after awhile. I think we finally have the technology to make a massively huge map to explore and a game engine powerful enough to process his abilities.
I like the idea of flying into space to quickly go to other locations like Smallville, the Fortress or even other places for special missions. The story will really have to sell this thing, though.
This was EPIC!!
Thanks so much!
Great video! I’ve spent my whole life itching for a good Superman game. Superman returns broke my heart - best we’ve had imo but still nowhere close to as good as it could be. Video game development companies are missing out on a fortune. I don’t know any gamer, even casual gamers, who wouldn’t kill to see this.
Couldn’t agree more! I hope it happens
I would like to see someday in an videogame style Animation the first Superman/Spider-Man Crossover, with the Injustice Superman and the PS4 Spider-Man.
Would be cool!
I don't.
Injustice sucks.