This guy is totally on point. I painted my vinyl siding and I am always smiling from ear to ear when i pull in my driveway. It has been 3 years and it never gets old!! Love it!! Yes it is a reminder in fall and winter season the little hints of the old yellow. It is still a great looking home! My neighbors are shocked about the transformation of the look. The updated satellite pics has the new look. I am bragging about it because it was scary but by far the best thing i ever done. 😊
Do mind if I ask where you live? I’m on Kentucky and I’m curious to know how much shift to expect. Recently, it hasn’t gotten really cold for extended periods of time, even in the winter.
Hi Todd! Just watched your video and it was EXTREMELY helpful!! We're going to be painting the home we just purchased and never dealt with vinyl siding, so this was very informative!
You are very excellent at explaining this process and thorough. I really appreciate your expertise thank you. I am staring at my green vinyl house and was wondering all of those things you described. I wish you were down here in New Orleans.
Easy to paint under and into the seams beforehand and let dry. Keep seam open to allow to dry. once dry, remove whatever small item keeping seam open (small stick) then paint rest of house. At least that is how i took care of that issue.Not hard to paint an inch or even more into seam with brush or sprayer...
I think I'll end up saving a load of money and purchasing new siding with a color I prefer. I understand painting can be done, but can't accept potential issues with the finished product. My home is a decent size and I'll notice those flaws then be agitated 😆.
Can the vinyl siding overlaps be spaced apart just enough to have the overspray cover the overlapping places on the vinyl? Maybe use some small pieces of wood behind the overlapping piece and remove the small blocks of wood after the paint is totally dry.
This is a great teaching video. Thank you! So, would it be wiser to paint the siding when it is cooler weather or hotter weather, concerning the expansion?
When painting vinyl siding, is there a additive such as Emulsa-bond, to ad to paint? like used in aluminum siding painting to help promote paint to bond and not peel later. Bonding to vinyl after a thorough cleaning
So I would think that it is always best to wait to paint Vinyl siding late into the season when it starts to get cold? I live in Florida, so I would attempt this during the 1st three months of the year.
Thanks for watching! The cold temperatures causing the vinyl to contract typical make it too cold for the paint as well. Down in Florida, you may not have as much expansion and contraction that we have here in the north.
Super well done video. I’m about to paint my 1978 tri level from egg shell yellow to white. I’d love to get on a phone call to #1 thank you for this video and #2 ask a couple more questions.
Really good information. We do live in a cold winter climate. How can we help prevent the contraction gaps? Paint on a warm day in the beginning or late fall?
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately, the cold weather that causes the contraction makes it too cold to paint outside adn by the time it's warm enough to paint, the siding has expanded again.
I usually have to power wash my house during the summer because I have a lot of trees in my property. I’m afraid the paint would peel off. My siding is in good condition I just wanted to change the color. Not sure if I should paint
Hi Sigman, theoretically yes, but in our northern climate the temperatures that cause the contraction also keep us from painting outside at that time of year. Here is a link to on of our blogs that covers the best time to paint an exterior: tribblepainting.com/best-time-to-paint-house-exterior/
My house is brick with vinyl siding under the front porch ,the Eve and Pillars....typical early 1970s brick ranch. .what vinyl or aluminum siding they did use is still in great shape....but what's the best vinyl safe paint you would reccomend?
I happen to have one of these sprayer; bought it to do vinyl shutters and it worked very well. Considering doing the house. Ours is also this beige/yellow and we just hate it. Would be much cheaper than redoing all the siding. Can you go back in the winter with any sort of brush and touch up the expansion marks? Or does that end up looking worse?
Hi Bela, theoretically yes, but in our northern climate the temperatures that cause the contraction also keep us from painting outside at that time of year.
It also depends on how the siding was installed. If nailed loose there shouldn't be too much expansion and contraction during the seasons. Its actually the wood frame that expands and contracts. Would never paint vinyl or aluminum siding without using a high bond primer first though.
Hello Sir, I hope you’re doing well. I have a question, I have a project to start in May to paint few apartments building’s exterior (vinyl siding) the existing color is light brown and light blue and the customer wants to paint them pure white. I am using Behr ultra paint prime&paint in one. I am afraid that just spraying won’t cover well, should I back roll will that help to cover better?
Hi Melanie, yes, you just want to make sure there is no black in the tint. We recommend going to your local paint store, telling them what you are wanting to paint and that you are wanting to go for a darker blue color.
Nice and informative video. Near the end of video you talked about lines possibly showing up. Do I have to worry about that on my vertical siding? Will their be any issues cause it was made to imitate woodgrain? Thanks
Bruce all vinyl siding will expand and contract with temperature change, even vertical. Vertical siding, unlike horizontal siding, usually doesn't overlap other pieces of siding where we tend to see the lines. The vertical siding is tucked behind a j channel which may or may not hide the line depending on how big the j channel is and how much contraction occurs.
Hi Miles, you will need to give the siding a good cleaning before you paint. Otherwise the paint will not be able to bond well. Todd talks about oxidization in this video about aluminum siding: ruclips.net/video/TJRz3Y9-Pnc/видео.html
I am just watching your video and it’s very informative I have a vinyl siding home and I live on the mountain where we get a lot more snow than the folks 10 minutes down the mountain from us our house sits right in front of the sign and the right side of the house gets a lot more sun the left side of our house has a lot more shade because the direction of the house is built I would like to paint my own home how would you go about picking a good color for the temperature we get long winter’s, What month would be a good time to start painting right now it’s July 18, 2022 thank you for your video
Now is a great time for painting. Assuming the temp is above 60-ish degrees, and no rain is in the forecast for the next day or two. If you are looking for a new and fresh color, I would be very careful about going darker than what you already have.
Can we get a more specific example of vynal specific/safe paint? Are most exterior paints vynal ready to spray? What paint did yall use for the job in the video? What common retailers sell vynal safe paint?
The final safe almost always comes down to the color tone. Some colors are way too dark for most types of vinyl, and the paint will absorb so much heat that the siding will warp very quickly. Vinyl safe means the homeowner can change to that color without having to worry about warping
Thanks for that information I was thinking about painting vinyl garage a different color... But that's kind of amazing 🤔... I don't know what to do now.
vinyl can be tricky, but not impossible. Vinyl siding doesn't expand or contract too much, and you could easily touch up spots that may shift with the seasons. I wouldn't expect the siding to shift more than a few inches
I have white vinyl siding on my house that was installed back in 1978. It is still in good shape though, a little worried about painting something so old. As long as I buy the vinyl safe paint, would you think it's not a problem? I'd like to go to a light gray color
Do you get any call-backs to make touchups on the exposed areas that are a different color? In the winter would be a good time to paint those newly exposed areas of siding.
very rarely to be honest, but it has happened before. Our painters are very careful in situations like this and we usually take care of issues like this before the end of the project, but sometimes it's hard to tell the extent of the movement during colder Michigan months. I wouldn't be too quick to touch up these spots in cold temps because of possible drying/bonding issues. Once the temps get up to around 55-60 degrees I would paint the spots needed, but take my time making sure proper drying time happens and the vinyl siding parts don't stick together.
@@TribblePaintingCompany Hello Todd, thanks for your videos, they are greatly appreciated! I saw where toward the end of your video you showed the joints that will expand and contract. You leveraged up one seam, got me to thinking that if you were to do that to all the seams and wash and paint through that opening might be a possiblilty, thoughts?
Almost all kinds of paint will fail if applied according to their recommendations. However, there are some designed for just that. I'll also assume those types of paint will have a higher chance of looking different in sheens and maybe even final color, but those stripes on the siding are so small that I can't see them being that big of an eye sore. If I had to cover up the lines, I'd do it in the warmer weather and either pop out some of the siding (it can be a serious pain to get back in sometimes) or have some sort of support to gently pull back the edge. This would give you space to paint and, more importantly, room for the paint to dry properly before you stack the siding back on top of each other.
hey great question. All paint should come with application recommendations and guidelines on how to best use the product. Oil based paint usually does better in cooler temps as acrylic usually needs temps around 50+ degrees. I believe that there is paint designed winter/artic conditions but I haven't come across such a thing yet. If you have a local paint store I bet they might know of a product line if you need to get some winter painting done.
The cold weather that causes the contraction of the vinyl siding typically prohibits painting outside. By the time the weather has warmed up enough, the vinyl has expended again. Here is a link to one of our blogs that goes over the best conditions to paint in: tribblepainting.com/best-time-to-paint-house-exterior/
In our northern climate the temperatures that cause the contraction also keep us from painting outside at that time of year. By the time the weather warms up, the vinyl has expanded again.
The better you prepare the surface, the longer the paint will last. Also, it's very important to use a good quality paint. But yes, sooner or later, it will need painted again.
Thank you for providing this info. I am guessing it would be best to paint during the hotter months, Also, how would vinyl paint hold up with pressure washing or do you recommend soft bristle brush cleaning?
we always power wash our vinyl projects. We've only brought out a scrub brush or some solution when we needed to get bigger chunks of mildew or creeper vines off before we started painting.
@@christopherwaldon8382 You can pressure wash just don't use super high pressure or a small tip. If the paint is properly applied then it won't come off. Just like with any other siding be sure you aren't too close or using to much pressure. It won't be strong like a car but you can use more pressure than a typical garden hose.
Hello, You will want to make sure you are using a vinyl safe paint. If there is black pigment in the Dark Blue paint, it can cause warping. Talk to your local paint store to create the dark blue you want without black pigment.
Theoretically yes. You would have to go over the whole house once to pop all of the vinyl seams out, then paint, and then after the paint has dried go back over the house and pop the vinyl back into place. I have a feeling that this process might make the painting of the vinyl cost prohibitive.
I wouldn't suggest it because the way it is designed is to ensure durability and elastic and contract for material long gevity. I tell you it doesn't matter especially when you see the great outcome of having it done. And of course it is not for everyone.
when we paint vinyl we make sure to paint the gaps. We try to be careful to make sure the paint makes the vinyl stick together, but we try to plan for movement in the vinyl the best we can. It make take a little bit longer, but our clients shouldn't have anything to worry about in the colder winter months of Michigan.
My house is 21 years old and was told this particular siding could not be painted like the newer siding. Would that be true still or have they come out with better quality paint that will work??
@@TribblePaintingCompany I was thinking why not separate the siding at the overlaps and paint the bottom piece and then paint the entire surface? I see a house a couple doors down from me that painted their siding a dark gray over a light gray and each winter the light gray seems appear and it looks bad!
I notice it during the colder season but it is not even as bad ad the sound of it. Trust me if you get the perfect color, it will be worth every penny spent. I am a proud guy pulling into my yard. 3 years and looking great!
Pedro we usually try to match the sheen of the original vinyl siding as close as possible so something with a little shine to it. Depending on the paint manufacturer this is usually an eggshell finish. Something with a little sheen makes it easier to clean/rinse off in the future. You could go with a higher sheen than eggshell it's all personal preference.
we always pressure wash exteriors! if you have the chalky film on your vinyl, power washing will help a bunch to ensure the new coat has a surface to bond to
If you could paint in cooler temps when the contraction had occurred, and the paint you were using could handle the temps and was safe for vinyl, this could eliminate much if not all of the visible lines.
With the amazing paint technologies that can cover and keep the greatest looks for 20 plus years, I would pick a time to do it and give it time to cure before the hottest days hit and you should be good. I would definitely visit a paint store with knowledgeable folks like Sherwin Williams. I tell you they have paints that will stand up to the toughest environments! Paints are that good nowadays. Good luck with your research.
exterior painting has loads of issues, mainly in drying and proper bonding environments needed for a great paint job. Are you looking to do some exterior painting this winter?
Great video and very informative. My question is, is there a way to fix that expansion issue that will occur during the winter months? How could you prepare for it?
We have not found a fix that would work in all situations. If you could go out once the contraction has occurred with a small brush and touch up all the areas, that might work. But the temperatures would have to be right for the paint that you would be using and this won't always line up. If you have other thoughts please share them.
@@jakemiller7400 this is a great idea. just be careful about dry times or having the paint dry together and make the vinyl stick. Have you done this Jake? how did it go?
great question. In our area we have many more wanting to change color on their vinyl siding rather than needing a new paint job. We expect a top of the line vinyl paint should give the homeowner at least 10+ years before oxidation starts to take over. This is just a rough estimate as it's highly dependent on things like average temp and exposure to the elements. Are you looking to paint some vinyl siding?
Thank you for this video! My house is obnoxiously white to me and I really want to paint it. I have one question, still. I have plastic vinyl, does the paint hold up to pressure washing? Or does the paint cut down on the green stuff that likes to grow on vinyl? Sorry for lack of a technical term there, I really don't know what it is mildew? 🤷♀️ Just being honest lol.
painted vinyl siding should hold up to a power washing or cleaning of mold/mildew just fine. There is always a chance of getting to close with certain types of power washers, but a good cleaning or scrubbing of the siding shouldn't damage the paint or the siding.
Kevin if it's chalky it can still be painted. Make sure to clean thoroughly and use a 100% acrylic paint. Acrylic paints do a good job of biting into chalky surfaces. How old is your vinyl?
@@toddtribble2251 so....what if I lifted the seams of the vinyl and painted under them prior to painting the whole wall? Would this work to prevent them showing in the winter? I'm thinking there has to be a solution to this problem 🤔
You probably will not get much contraction in certain parts of FL because the temperature doesn't drop enough to cause it. But yes, your thinking is correct, if you can paint at the coolest point then you should be covering any contraction that occurred.
washing is very important. Especially with vinyl that can get quite the chalky residue on it if the paint has been given enough time. A power wash with a gentle bleach solution usually works for us, but if your house exterior is already looking good and doesn't have much mildew or mold spots, you could probably skip the bleach. A quick wipe down of spots is also a good indicator if the siding is clean before or even after a good power wash.
Yes, you can paint vinyl siding but why would you ?? If you paint it in the summer, all of the overlap joints will show in the winter. This is a really stupid idea. The reason for vinyl siding is you'll never have to paint it. Did you pick the wrong color??
at 1:33 says not to go darker, at 1:44 says okay to go darker color... what gives! not trying to be snarkey, but lookin to paint my vinyl siding, and don't want to destroy it...
This guy is totally on point. I painted my vinyl siding and I am always smiling from ear to ear when i pull in my driveway. It has been 3 years and it never gets old!! Love it!! Yes it is a reminder in fall and winter season the little hints of the old yellow. It is still a great looking home! My neighbors are shocked about the transformation of the look. The updated satellite pics has the new look. I am bragging about it because it was scary but by far the best thing i ever done. 😊
That is awesome!
Do mind if I ask where you live? I’m on Kentucky and I’m curious to know how much shift to expect. Recently, it hasn’t gotten really cold for extended periods of time, even in the winter.
What type of paint did you use?
@yova2002 there is a special paint I got from Sherwin Williams it is for Vinyl siding!!
That is a good and honest and useful review
Hi Todd! Just watched your video and it was EXTREMELY helpful!! We're going to be painting the home we just purchased and never dealt with vinyl siding, so this was very informative!
There is no way I'm going to paint siding only to have it contract and show the old color like that. Thank you for saving me the trouble.
I'm glad I saw this I'm just going to repaint it the same color white and problem solved
Once it contracted couldn’t you just paint the exposed spot??
@@LoganSMO paint doesn't work well in freezing temperatures, or even under 50 degrees F
You are very excellent at explaining this process and thorough. I really appreciate your expertise thank you. I am staring at my green vinyl house and was wondering all of those things you described. I wish you were down here in New Orleans.
Great video. I thought about painting. Never thought about the expansion marks.
Easy to paint under and into the seams beforehand and let dry. Keep seam open to allow to dry. once dry, remove whatever small item keeping seam open (small stick) then paint rest of house. At least that is how i took care of that issue.Not hard to paint an inch or even more into seam with brush or sprayer...
I was thinking the exact same thing! Good to know I'm not off base.
I think I'll end up saving a load of money and purchasing new siding with a color I prefer. I understand painting can be done, but can't accept potential issues with the finished product. My home is a decent size and I'll notice those flaws then be agitated 😆.
Hi Darnell, Thank you for watching! Each homeowner has to make the best decision for what they are looking for.
Great video, very helpful! Im planning to paint my house with blue dark colour.
Thanks.
Can the vinyl siding overlaps be spaced apart just enough to have the overspray cover the overlapping places on the vinyl? Maybe use some small pieces of wood behind the overlapping piece and remove the small blocks of wood after the paint is totally dry.
This is a great teaching video. Thank you! So, would it be wiser to paint the siding when it is cooler weather or hotter weather, concerning the expansion?
Thank you for this video !
When painting vinyl siding, is there a additive such as Emulsa-bond, to ad to paint? like used in aluminum siding painting to help promote paint to bond and not peel later.
Bonding to vinyl after a thorough cleaning
great voice n tone
thanks Viper!
Good information! Please make more videos...
Thank you, I will
You make that Look easy
So I would think that it is always best to wait to paint Vinyl siding late into the season when it starts to get cold? I live in Florida, so I would attempt this during the 1st three months of the year.
Thanks for watching! The cold temperatures causing the vinyl to contract typical make it too cold for the paint as well. Down in Florida, you may not have as much expansion and contraction that we have here in the north.
Did my house 3 years ago 3 times I washed it from a old barn brown red watever to a cream metal siding came out mint sooo much oxidation ha good job
Great video!
you need to pop the lengths of vinyl where they overlap horizontally and spray behind those.
At what point do you snap it back down?
@@fastlanetechnologies2512 Wedge it open until it dries....
Thank you so much
Super well done video. I’m about to paint my 1978 tri level from egg shell yellow to white. I’d love to get on a phone call to #1 thank you for this video and #2 ask a couple more questions.
So would you say it's best to paint in mid - late Fall .... Depending on the state temp you live in ?
That way you paint while it's expanded
Really good information. We do live in a cold winter climate. How can we help prevent the contraction gaps? Paint on a warm day in the beginning or late fall?
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately, the cold weather that causes the contraction makes it too cold to paint outside adn by the time it's warm enough to paint, the siding has expanded again.
I usually have to power wash my house during the summer because I have a lot of trees in my property. I’m afraid the paint would peel off. My siding is in good condition I just wanted to change the color. Not sure if I should paint
Do a small section first and try it out
Thank you!
~ Can I do touch up in the winter after it expands? 🇨🇦
Hi Sigman, theoretically yes, but in our northern climate the temperatures that cause the contraction also keep us from painting outside at that time of year. Here is a link to on of our blogs that covers the best time to paint an exterior: tribblepainting.com/best-time-to-paint-house-exterior/
My house is brick with vinyl siding under the front porch ,the Eve and Pillars....typical early 1970s brick ranch. .what vinyl or aluminum siding they did use is still in great shape....but what's the best vinyl safe paint you would reccomend?
Vinyl comes in different colors.
100% Acrylic works great as long as a compatible primer is used before painting
What about using Beyond Paint?
I happen to have one of these sprayer; bought it to do vinyl shutters and it worked very well. Considering doing the house. Ours is also this beige/yellow and we just hate it. Would be much cheaper than redoing all the siding. Can you go back in the winter with any sort of brush and touch up the expansion marks? Or does that end up looking worse?
Hi Bela, theoretically yes, but in our northern climate the temperatures that cause the contraction also keep us from painting outside at that time of year.
The house I recently bought has that ugly yellow paint in the vinyl as well. Going to make it look good this summer with a much better looking color.
It also depends on how the siding was installed. If nailed loose there shouldn't be too much expansion and contraction during the seasons. Its actually the wood frame that expands and contracts. Would never paint vinyl or aluminum siding without using a high bond primer first though.
Hello Sir, I hope you’re doing well. I have a question, I have a project to start in May to paint few apartments building’s exterior (vinyl siding) the existing color is light brown and light blue and the customer wants to paint them pure white. I am using Behr ultra paint prime&paint in one. I am afraid that just spraying won’t cover well, should I back roll will that help to cover better?
Hi After a good cleaning can you get away with one coat if it covers the siding will that be enough?
Yes you can! It's all about coverage and protection. If it looks even and unified on the surface, then you should be good to go
If my houses vinyl siding is aluminum vinyl would I be able to paint it black?
So is it okay to go with a darker color as long as it is vinyl safe? Say we are going from a light brown/ beige to a darker blue?
Hi Melanie, yes, you just want to make sure there is no black in the tint. We recommend going to your local paint store, telling them what you are wanting to paint and that you are wanting to go for a darker blue color.
Nice and informative video. Near the end of video you talked about lines possibly showing up. Do I have to worry about that on my vertical siding? Will their be any issues cause it was made to imitate woodgrain? Thanks
Bruce all vinyl siding will expand and contract with temperature change, even vertical. Vertical siding, unlike horizontal siding, usually doesn't overlap other pieces of siding where we tend to see the lines. The vertical siding is tucked behind a j channel which may or may not hide the line depending on how big the j channel is and how much contraction occurs.
@@toddtribble2251 thanks Todd I appreciate the quick response
Fantastic video! I’m in Philadelphia, does it make sense to paint the house when it’s colder before it expands??
in theory, it could work; just make sure you have plenty of dry/cure time before the expansion hits
if you try it, let us know how it goes!
Mine is a little oxidized, what kind of prep do you recommend for that for good adhesion?
clean very well with lacquer thinner
Hi Miles, you will need to give the siding a good cleaning before you paint. Otherwise the paint will not be able to bond well. Todd talks about oxidization in this video about aluminum siding: ruclips.net/video/TJRz3Y9-Pnc/видео.html
I am just watching your video and it’s very informative I have a vinyl siding home and I live on the mountain where we get a lot more snow than the folks 10 minutes down the mountain from us our house sits right in front of the sign and the right side of the house gets a lot more sun the left side of our house has a lot more shade because the direction of the house is built I would like to paint my own home how would you go about picking a good color for the temperature we get long winter’s, What month would be a good time to start painting right now it’s July 18, 2022 thank you for your video
Now is a great time for painting. Assuming the temp is above 60-ish degrees, and no rain is in the forecast for the next day or two. If you are looking for a new and fresh color, I would be very careful about going darker than what you already have.
Can u paint under the seams?
Would you paint the expansion line when they show?
Hi Amber! Unfortunately, in our northern climate the temperatures that cause the contraction also keep us from painting outside at that time of year.
Thank you for your video
glad you liked it, Sam!
So a vinyl safe paint means i can go darker without warping? 1st you said you cant go darker then ya can? 😅
Sherwin Williams has a color palette for you to choose from for vinyl safe paint w/ no black tint.
Can we get a more specific example of vynal specific/safe paint? Are most exterior paints vynal ready to spray? What paint did yall use for the job in the video? What common retailers sell vynal safe paint?
The final safe almost always comes down to the color tone. Some colors are way too dark for most types of vinyl, and the paint will absorb so much heat that the siding will warp very quickly. Vinyl safe means the homeowner can change to that color without having to worry about warping
Thanks for that information I was thinking about painting vinyl garage a different color... But that's kind of amazing 🤔... I don't know what to do now.
vinyl can be tricky, but not impossible. Vinyl siding doesn't expand or contract too much, and you could easily touch up spots that may shift with the seasons. I wouldn't expect the siding to shift more than a few inches
I have white vinyl siding on my house that was installed back in 1978. It is still in good shape though, a little worried about painting something so old. As long as I buy the vinyl safe paint, would you think it's not a problem? I'd like to go to a light gray color
Bob as long as the vinyl is sound and not breaking down then painting over it should be fine if you use the vinyl safe paint.
Do you get any call-backs to make touchups on the exposed areas that are a different color? In the winter would be a good time to paint those newly exposed areas of siding.
very rarely to be honest, but it has happened before. Our painters are very careful in situations like this and we usually take care of issues like this before the end of the project, but sometimes it's hard to tell the extent of the movement during colder Michigan months. I wouldn't be too quick to touch up these spots in cold temps because of possible drying/bonding issues. Once the temps get up to around 55-60 degrees I would paint the spots needed, but take my time making sure proper drying time happens and the vinyl siding parts don't stick together.
@@TribblePaintingCompany Hello Todd, thanks for your videos, they are greatly appreciated! I saw where toward the end of your video you showed the joints that will expand and contract. You leveraged up one seam, got me to thinking that if you were to do that to all the seams and wash and paint through that opening might be a possiblilty, thoughts?
How does painted vinyl hold up to power washing?
vinyl is safe for power washing and should hold up well.
Would you recommend using beyond paint to paint siding and brick?
Gus, unfortunately we don't have first hand experience with Beyond Paint to be able to guide one direction or another.
@@TribblePaintingCompany what kind of paint would you recommend? Which brand would you recommend?
Can we hit the differential lines with sime paint when they show up? Can we paint in the winter?.
Almost all kinds of paint will fail if applied according to their recommendations. However, there are some designed for just that. I'll also assume those types of paint will have a higher chance of looking different in sheens and maybe even final color, but those stripes on the siding are so small that I can't see them being that big of an eye sore.
If I had to cover up the lines, I'd do it in the warmer weather and either pop out some of the siding (it can be a serious pain to get back in sometimes) or have some sort of support to gently pull back the edge. This would give you space to paint and, more importantly, room for the paint to dry properly before you stack the siding back on top of each other.
My house is 20 years old. The vinyl is peeling. Can I paint right over it or do I need to do some prep work in the areas that are peeling?
Hi Olivia, when you say it's peeling, is this paint that is peeling because the vinyl was painted previously?
Could you just paint in cooler weather so the vinyl would be contracted when you paint?
hey great question. All paint should come with application recommendations and guidelines on how to best use the product. Oil based paint usually does better in cooler temps as acrylic usually needs temps around 50+ degrees. I believe that there is paint designed winter/artic conditions but I haven't come across such a thing yet. If you have a local paint store I bet they might know of a product line if you need to get some winter painting done.
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Hi, thanks for the video! So bonding primer is not necessary before finish coats?
Amanda a primer can't hurt but isn't always needed. The acrylic paints if applied over thoroughly cleaned vinyl will bond just fine.
so if in the winter it expands, should i wait untill winter to paint? thanks
The cold weather that causes the contraction of the vinyl siding typically prohibits painting outside. By the time the weather has warmed up enough, the vinyl has expended again. Here is a link to one of our blogs that goes over the best conditions to paint in: tribblepainting.com/best-time-to-paint-house-exterior/
@@TribblePaintingCompany hey thank you very much for the info. I really appreciate it.
I appreciate you letting us know that this could happen with hot and cold seasons, but is there a solution?
In our northern climate the temperatures that cause the contraction also keep us from painting outside at that time of year. By the time the weather warms up, the vinyl has expanded again.
I assume once you paint vinyl siding, it's not maintenence free anymore, and it will need to be repainted every so often?
The better you prepare the surface, the longer the paint will last. Also, it's very important to use a good quality paint. But yes, sooner or later, it will need painted again.
Thank you for providing this info. I am guessing it would be best to paint during the hotter months, Also, how would vinyl paint hold up with pressure washing or do you recommend soft bristle brush cleaning?
we always power wash our vinyl projects. We've only brought out a scrub brush or some solution when we needed to get bigger chunks of mildew or creeper vines off before we started painting.
@@TribblePaintingCompany Maybe I should have been more clear, I meant pressure washing after painting the vinyl?
@@christopherwaldon8382 You can pressure wash just don't use super high pressure or a small tip. If the paint is properly applied then it won't come off. Just like with any other siding be sure you aren't too close or using to much pressure. It won't be strong like a car but you can use more pressure than a typical garden hose.
Wouldn't you want to paint in the winter months so that when it expands in the heat it would slide over the painted area?
So I just wanted to make sure. It’s ok to go darker on factory “light color” vinyl as long as you use vinyl safe paint?
that's what he said.
Would going from a light blue to a dark blue on vinyl be too much of a jump and cause warpage?
Hello, You will want to make sure you are using a vinyl safe paint. If there is black pigment in the Dark Blue paint, it can cause warping. Talk to your local paint store to create the dark blue you want without black pigment.
How easy does the paint lift up?
good quality paint with proper application and dry/cure time should be rather resilient
@@TribblePaintingCompany Thanks for the info. Didn't really think i could paint ir without problems.
Would opening the gaps and spraying paint between the layers eliminate most of the shrinkage lines?
Theoretically yes. You would have to go over the whole house once to pop all of the vinyl seams out, then paint, and then after the paint has dried go back over the house and pop the vinyl back into place. I have a feeling that this process might make the painting of the vinyl cost prohibitive.
I wouldn't suggest it because the way it is designed is to ensure durability and elastic and contract for material long gevity. I tell you it doesn't matter especially when you see the great outcome of having it done. And of course it is not for everyone.
so is there anyway to avoid the old paint from showing when the vinyl contracts and expands or it just is what it is?...
when we paint vinyl we make sure to paint the gaps. We try to be careful to make sure the paint makes the vinyl stick together, but we try to plan for movement in the vinyl the best we can. It make take a little bit longer, but our clients shouldn't have anything to worry about in the colder winter months of Michigan.
Would it make sense to remove them, and redo the exterior with something else instead? How expensive would a project like that be?
Remove the vinyl siding?
My house is 21 years old and was told this particular siding could not be painted like the newer siding. Would that be true still or have they come out with better quality paint that will work??
I'm curious who gave you the advice not to paint you 21 year old siding?
Couldn’t you pre-paint the seems to eliminate the shrinkage exposing the original color?
Hello, could you elaborate on what you mean by pre-painting the seams?
@@TribblePaintingCompany I was thinking why not separate the siding at the overlaps and paint the bottom piece and then paint the entire surface? I see a house a couple doors down from me that painted their siding a dark gray over a light gray and each winter the light gray seems appear and it looks bad!
Half inch contraction 😮 that’s a lot, was looking to paint my vinyl from white ish ti a dark blue, but if I get that much exposure 😂
Hello, thank you for watching. We hope this video has helped you make the best decision for you and your home.
I notice it during the colder season but it is not even as bad ad the sound of it. Trust me if you get the perfect color, it will be worth every penny spent. I am a proud guy pulling into my yard. 3 years and looking great!
I never thought I would like a video about painting vinyl siding but I was wrong ....
What's the best paint to apply on vinyl what product? Flat or satin or another one
Pedro we usually try to match the sheen of the original vinyl siding as close as possible so something with a little shine to it. Depending on the paint manufacturer this is usually an eggshell finish. Something with a little sheen makes it easier to clean/rinse off in the future. You could go with a higher sheen than eggshell it's all personal preference.
can i paint it by hand using a brush ?
absolutely! if you're going DIY, we always recommend to go at your own pace, and don't rush it!
Do u need to put a primer coat on ?
Thanks for watching! We use a paint and primer in one.
Do you add water in your paint sprayer?
Gus no need to add water to the paint if you are using a pro style airless paint sprayer.
Thanks for responding I really appreciate it.
Before you start painting do you need to pressure wash first?
we always pressure wash exteriors! if you have the chalky film on your vinyl, power washing will help a bunch to ensure the new coat has a surface to bond to
Is one coat enough or is two better?
always planning for 2 coats is usually best
So paint in the winter is best?
If you could paint in cooler temps when the contraction had occurred, and the paint you were using could handle the temps and was safe for vinyl, this could eliminate much if not all of the visible lines.
Does the painted vinyl hold up to Texas heat? 115•?
With the amazing paint technologies that can cover and keep the greatest looks for 20 plus years, I would pick a time to do it and give it time to cure before the hottest days hit and you should be good. I would definitely visit a paint store with knowledgeable folks like Sherwin Williams. I tell you they have paints that will stand up to the toughest environments! Paints are that good nowadays. Good luck with your research.
So.....if one paints their house in the winter they shouldn't have the problem of the joints showing. Right??
exterior painting has loads of issues, mainly in drying and proper bonding environments needed for a great paint job. Are you looking to do some exterior painting this winter?
4:28 if I paint the house at the hottest temperature would I see the line?
Great video and very informative. My question is, is there a way to fix that expansion issue that will occur during the winter months? How could you prepare for it?
We have not found a fix that would work in all situations. If you could go out once the contraction has occurred with a small brush and touch up all the areas, that might work. But the temperatures would have to be right for the paint that you would be using and this won't always line up. If you have other thoughts please share them.
Why not pull the expansion out just like he did in the video and paint those areas with a touch up brush before painting the whole house?
@@jakemiller7400 this is a great idea. just be careful about dry times or having the paint dry together and make the vinyl stick. Have you done this Jake? how did it go?
How long would that last before it needs to be repainted?
great question. In our area we have many more wanting to change color on their vinyl siding rather than needing a new paint job. We expect a top of the line vinyl paint should give the homeowner at least 10+ years before oxidation starts to take over. This is just a rough estimate as it's highly dependent on things like average temp and exposure to the elements. Are you looking to paint some vinyl siding?
@@TribblePaintingCompany Yes I am.
@@jonnyerts3997 good luck!!!
I hate siding that shows where it has joined. Mine is like that it and it drives me crazy
It depends on the installation, if they put the joints away from the home. It’s caused by the overlapping of the siding
So why not just use your hand to pull the siding up like you just did and spray under it?
Can’t they just lift each panel and paint underneath???
Slapping the siding back down on wet spots is the challenge here. I do believe they make slit expanders to help in these situations.
Thank you for this video! My house is obnoxiously white to me and I really want to paint it. I have one question, still. I have plastic vinyl, does the paint hold up to pressure washing? Or does the paint cut down on the green stuff that likes to grow on vinyl? Sorry for lack of a technical term there, I really don't know what it is mildew? 🤷♀️ Just being honest lol.
painted vinyl siding should hold up to a power washing or cleaning of mold/mildew just fine. There is always a chance of getting to close with certain types of power washers, but a good cleaning or scrubbing of the siding shouldn't damage the paint or the siding.
What if your vinyl siding is chalky now?
Kevin if it's chalky it can still be painted. Make sure to clean thoroughly and use a 100% acrylic paint. Acrylic paints do a good job of biting into chalky surfaces. How old is your vinyl?
would painting in the winter when the vinyl siding is expanded solve that last issue ? Thanks for the vid
Theoretically yes, but in our northern climate the cold temperatures that cause the vinyl to contract also inhibit exterior painting.
@@toddtribble2251 so....what if I lifted the seams of the vinyl and painted under them prior to painting the whole wall? Would this work to prevent them showing in the winter? I'm thinking there has to be a solution to this problem 🤔
So in Florida paint in January
You probably will not get much contraction in certain parts of FL because the temperature doesn't drop enough to cause it. But yes, your thinking is correct, if you can paint at the coolest point then you should be covering any contraction that occurred.
Do you need to wash a new vinyl siding before painting it?
washing is very important. Especially with vinyl that can get quite the chalky residue on it if the paint has been given enough time. A power wash with a gentle bleach solution usually works for us, but if your house exterior is already looking good and doesn't have much mildew or mold spots, you could probably skip the bleach. A quick wipe down of spots is also a good indicator if the siding is clean before or even after a good power wash.
Yes, you can paint vinyl siding but why would you ?? If you paint it in the summer, all of the overlap joints will show in the winter. This is a really stupid idea. The reason for vinyl siding is you'll never have to paint it. Did you pick the wrong color??
I’m here because I bought a house with a color I want to change without installing new vinyl… if you’re actually curious
Ditch the music so you viewer can hear you.
Hi Larry, which part of the video could you not hear?
Also - if you weren't aware, you can enable Closed Captions if you have trouble with the sound.
at 1:33 says not to go darker, at 1:44 says okay to go darker color... what gives! not trying to be snarkey, but lookin to paint my vinyl siding, and don't want to destroy it...
Hi Spark - as long as you're using a vinyl safe paint, you should be just fine.
@@TribblePaintingCompany sounds good! thank you for the reply
The background music was very distracting and unnecessary while the host is talking.
No it wasn't
It would be better if there was no annoying music in thje background.
Hi Myrle and Kaye Dietzenbach! you can watch this video with closed captions if that better suits your needs. Hope you have a wonderful day
You never tell us what kind of paint. Oil or latex paint, would you need to prime first ?
No primer? Paint will peel sooner
use Anchor paint