This BRONZE player says they deserve a higher rank... so we made them prove it in a GOLD lobby...
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his main issue (aside from aim) is cooldown management, he doesnt manage his rein shield, any of his winston cooldowns, bubbles or matrix at all. his aggression on rein is good for the most part though
Also he only targets the tank unless he's on reinhardt
He's placed correctly, imho. I can't tell you much of what they did right. They took decent positions as a rein. If you have played for a few weeks, then u probably know where to place your shield. Some of his firestrikes were decent. His teammates were good enough to carry on damage. Otherwise, he'd be getting wrecked. I do just about everything better than him. I'm gold, so I know he's nowhere near that. He's bad enough at every tank hero that he should just focus on getting one tank hero better. FYI it did take me a long time to get out of bronze so he should just grind like I had to instead of the entitled route.
@@FindMe04 nah there’s so much wrong i mean he’s bronze but his shield management and his ability to take and keep space without dying is next to nothing again i get he’s bronze but there’s so much wrong with his gameplay
he uses rein charge like a winston leap and uses winston bubble like a rein shield
this guy is like max silver rn but he definitely has potential
This player is doing 1 thing correct, they are being aggro, thats how you learn and eventually climb.
I see the vision.
yes its far easier to get to the limit via overestimated then underestimating
I really enjoy these videos. What ALWAYS surprises me is how good the bronze players are (even in bronze vs. masters, etc). I'm gold/plat and don't see a WHOLE lot of difference from bronze to gold in aim, working together, etc.. In some cases they work together even better and that may be that their skill is lower but they WANT to be better, whereas you get to gold/plat and folks feel they are better than they are, so there is a lot more venturing out on your own and not working with the team. Keep up the great vids!
I mean, the biggest difference is usually consistency too. But aim is generally not that great and game sense is not that great either. But you also have to understand that the game evolved a lot since the earlier days, meaning that a bronze now, would've been like a plat-diamond in the first few seasons of overwatch 1. If you see a master player now, he would be one of the top tier guys in early overwatch. Generally, bronze players lack the basic knowledge of many aspects of the game. I've seen people who didn't even know what certain heroes did, like Mercy having a pistol for example, and Zarya having her beam charged by the bubbles taking damage etc. It might seem stupid but I've seen people getting surprised saying "ooooh that's what it is then"
thats because in gold you still get matched with bronze players
Some quick thoughts on the 1st Reinhardt game:
*The player has bad shield management* He consistently deploys his shield when it is
My thoughts exactly. I'd also add that melee decision making isn't that great. That goes hand in hand with shield management. Too many times on Kings Row where their Zarya was in between him and his supports. The shield had 0 value while his melee would've had much much more.
@@BeakerSteve Agree. He deploys shield pointlessly most of time and spending charging just for the sake of it. His agressiveness seems so "YOLO" rather strategic one.
here are my quick thoughts:
dont play reinhardt
I'm a gold ana and it's so easy to punish reins who over pin with a sleepdart and nade.
We know
For now, he stays bronze..... He know to be aggressive, but not know HOW to be aggressive.
For me he can stay in Silver 2
He is better than bronze
With the Sigma he destroy the enemy team but his damage players does not kill any body
He has *potential* which is more than most players under gold can say. 😉
That sigma play was really good, only thing I’d say is that if he worked on that shield management and tried not to let it sit with no use he could live longer
Okay if he isn't gold potential, then that enemy Zarya isn't either because they instantly swapped from the mirror match up lol
About breaking lamp: it doesn't actually last that long. I don't think the tank should break the lamp. The tank should be pressuring the people inside the lamp to keep their hp low so they can be finished off when either the lamp goes down or literally anyone else shoots it. If you're playing Winston you can easily do both. I find if I stop attacking the people inside the lamp in order to kill the lamp, that is enough for the people inside to get back to like half or even full hp.
For sure he watches a lot of Flats but his bronze shines thru with the shield management and the charges
I think his main issue is shield management, eg he can just round the corner and use natural cover instead of his shield. I think this may come from the bronze misconception that the tank's job is to just hold up shield. (And many will flame you if you don't, but they don't know what they're talking about, half the time they don't even use it and die because of terrible positioning.)
I want to do this but there are a things I suffer with - call outs, absolutely suck with those. And other things that just left my mind lol
Got me at “ they’re a small studio..running out of money. I’m dead
Plat Widow: Walks with Rien
*Gets Charged*
In the OT he needed to ult earlier to avoid the touch and play the cart to avoid ana. Usually DPS isn't the issue it's cc for sig ult
He says if you pin anywhere above this Elo you get punished, I was plat 2 a few days ago and now I’m plat 4 because of teammates not punishing enemy tanks for overextending as in DVA doom fist rein pin, they just don’t exist until you’re in diamond and even then I assume you’ll still run across games that are absolute misery
As a masters rein 1 trick (i play almost exclusively rein), this is actually painful to watch. King's Row is undoubtedly rein's strongest map and there is a LOT of obvious and not obvious mistakes in his gameplay. I personally have a very high win rate on the map in masters and have diffed quite a few gm/top 500's before due to rein's inherit strengths on this map. Literally some mistake can be fixed instantly as a lot of rein's strength comes from in game decision making. If he knew what to do, even with really poor mechanics (bad shatters/fire strikes etc.) he would've easily hard carried this game. Watching him play makes soul leave my body.
I would love to see top 500 console vs masters or diamond players on pc in a Mach competitive match and see how the skill gap looks
top 500 console prob have better game sense/comms and PC would def have better aim and mechanics it’d be fun
if console players are not used to play with mouse and keyboard that would be rough for the T500 players. Unless they all play with controller. then again maybe the pc players have no idea how to play with a controller. so it would be a 50/50 i think
@@metalvideos1961 i think they mean pc players play with mouse and keyboard and t500 play with controllers
? top 500 clears
The Guan Yu skin is fantastic
Jay3…..$2000 a month…..bro I’m crying for whomever falls into that catagory
He reminds me of when I first played Reinhard on Pc in some regards, but that was ov one XD
I apparently play a different OW2 than most pros because they always assume bronze and silver players should be higher ranked because they're capable of the simplest things, they'll say stuff like "Yeah you won't get punished for x thing in this rank" "I wouldn't expect to see someone below plat do this thing" and it's always stuff that I do or if I was even half as careless as them I die twice as fast. I'll see people do things that I'm like "how, HOW could they possibly survive there?" and I just wish I could be in those games
Red Ana was ruthless on that first game lol, he was purple on cooldown
I want to get back to playing ranked, but it’s in such a poor state, and has been since the later years of OW1. I’m being matched with top 500 players in QP, but I’m stuck in Diamond. I’ve quit after having 3 leavers in a row. Terrible match making and teammates have really pushed me away from comp.
Yea expecting teammates to break lamp when you get kitsune and knocked forward around a corner and you go into their back line and enemy has amp matrix behind you so your teammates can’t peek that well to follow up is definitely the highest example of lack of game awareness not just being aware of his own team but enemy team as well.
man i wanna do this but as a dps not tank in gold also looks fun
video name: this bronze player thinks they deserve a higher rank
first 30 seconds of the game:
Jay - do you think you deserve a higher rank?
player - honestly i'm not sure...
Day #5 of asking to make one mega buffed bronze player vs. 5 top 500 players
12:41 this is a random topic but I agree
As a diamond rein main… this hurt
what I noticed is that his sensitivity is just way to high. If he spent some time getting it right he'd climb to gold easily IMO
so wait do you need to be pc to be in these and how would you go about that ?
In this economy where I live you can actually buy a decent house for $100k and less depending on where in the area.
That was quite exciting to watch. These are the videos I subscribed for :D He is not ready for gold tho. Somone needs to sort his mouse sensitivity out first, even for a bloody winston, his sensitivity is sooo high. For zarya it`s miles high. Once he got that sorted he will immediately enter silver.
Fun fact: i dont know how to play tank I lose game after game after game, people complain that Im worst tank ever, finished 7 wins after week or so of trying... placed into gold 5. I mean if that isn't absolutely broken league system I don't know what is.
bro i placed bronze at start of the season... im already in plat 1. the ranked system is a fucking joke rn, i was stuck in elo hell until 2 days ago bc of being placed in bronze of all places
I don't know what kind of gold games these guys have but 99% of bronze-plat games I have are without any comms
his bronze is showing in his rein whenever he charges into enemy flank. as a gold support i would be so annoyed if i saw that in my game
I think a cool reind buff would be to if you cancel your charge early it lets you get to use the rest of your charge distance afterwards for a short time
Better rein buff would be to make the pin consistent
The deepfry edit is kinda a hindrance but I like the video ❤
Is this over 1 or 2? Is overwatch 2 worth the play since it is free for me? (I am on xbox)
Would probably fit in bronze 1 - Silver 4 mmr. Tho honestly, if he just keeps playing, he will eventually climb.
It’s weird he knows he can cancel his fly with dva but doesn’t do it
I think if he turned down his sensitivity a bit it would help him a ton
He needs to spam his alt fire more to charge ult
I'm freaking out maaaan. I feel like a fraud who hardly deserves to be bronze with a possibility of being silver one day but I just got gold. I've won 21 out of my 33 comp games!? I really need to work on my long range game because 9 out of those 12 losses were me panicking, thinking I couldn't possibly keep up playing the long game or we weren't making enough progress. 3 of those games we straight up got boxed out of the capture point a lot and I can't figure out how to be the change we need in those scenarios.
"I don't understand Reinhard pin btw."
-none does
Hi. I’m a Gold 1 Mercy main. I’m currently stuck in Gold 1 as my team seems to struggle against the opposing team. I’m fairly new to the game with around 15 hour. I was wondering how I could get into these things and see if I could play on a higher rank.
15hr is nothing, just play. Some stuff comes with experience
15 hrs? lets get those numbers higher before you jump in competitive :D
The other comments are right, but with mercy prioritize movement and always staying alive, the best mercy’s in the game barely have any deaths. Always have to try to damage boost a lot of the time as well, just some tips for ya
I would be down to duo up with you if you’d like (: I’m a plat 4 mercy/Moria/Kiriko main and I’ve been looking for a support duo. Lmk if you’d be down
Gold 1 with 15 hrs play seems a bit suspect. If its right, then 10/10 but I am suspicious
How do you play in these? Cause I swear I deserve higher mmr. I’m silver rn and have been the entire season. My winrate has gone up since I started playing zen and started doing a lot of the dps but I feel like I’d put in more value as a support on bap
discord
I was silver 2 in dos at the end of last season which isn't great I know, but then since I got put in bronze 1 I've been hard stuck
zen is hard to climb with in low ranks if you arent calling out discords and coordinating. if you want an easy solo dps support pick go moira, u can climb to plat easily if u learn cooldown management. even bap is harder since he requires good aim and dps/healing at the same time to get max value.
@@benbasterfield6240 I feel bro, I got put down from gold 3 to silver 3 and was stuck in silver for so long after the reset
@@jeremypcleung yah, maybe zen isn’t the pick, and funnily enough Moira is an occasional swap I have a high winrate with, the only one that matches my zen
He doesn't fire strike nearly enough, and while the commentary was off saying that pinning is a bad thing to do, decent rein play besides the pack of fire strikes and a tad over commitment
How do you participate in these
My alt ac was gold on ow 1 but main ac was bronze I hated going against smurfs and my team thinking I was a smurf
Is there a way i can compete? I feel my tank is at least plat
I play Reinhardt and sigma like that but I’m trying to get out of bronze 5. I’m in bronze 3 but that’s the highest I’ve been in open role queue since OW2. I used to be silver and gold in OW1. I need to watch the live streams and get put into one of these challenges, I think I deserve low gold and to not be in bronze. Also play Kiriko and hanzo
Can I join these events? I never had communication with my team, bronze is tough
Maybe if we all protest and stop buying skins they'll drop the prices
I made with within 15 points of being plat and then had a 17 game loss streak, at least 9 of those games I lost had leavers. I quit playing ranked after that but am considering getting back to it.
I'm stuck in rank hell. I'm stuck in bronse with tank but can easily be high silver low gold
I didn't know that when you play monkey you have to call your jumps coz when I play monkey I AM the monkey
This was hard to watch 😂. He kept going solo into the enemy team and idk how his teammates didn’t yell at him. The only reason he did decent was bc his supports and dps carried him. He’s still got more to learn but it’s definitely gonna take time.
Bad editing : No one has increased the sharpness that much since 2008.
Wish I could do one of these I’m silver and think I should be diamond
i just got gold tank 2 days ago but i think i should be in high diamond or masters because i said so and im cool
I would say he's a low gold rein, but the moment he swap off he instantly goes back to bronze, even on rein his cooldown management kinda sucks but in gold it's not always the best, but him on any other hero that requires a bit of aiming really shows he's bronze skill
Jay3 editor. MORE RANDOM NOISES
I was in a bronz group up against a diamond in pve once. Skill is more important than a rank.
@@deshaunthibault8372 I don’t know. My team gets walloped in some of those. Can’t even get out of the spawn door.
I wonna see 5 console GM's Vs 5 PC GM's
Swaps without using ult?
ngl this looked a lot like 10 bronze players lmao
I mean, given the MMR revelations in the blog post the other day, rank means absolutely nothing. So a bronze player could be as good as a Plat player etc, it’s meaningless
how do i do this
yall aren’t getting the fact that their still bronze💀
He's a good rein, but his habits on him are based on enemy bronze players. He did well to try to adjust to the higher skill of the but still has a ways to go.
This Bronze-Guy needs to stay where he is. He dont have enough knowledge and experience handling all enemy hero-attacks.
I maybe put 2 hours into overwatch 1. Can someone explain to me how you could have played overwatch 1 and be in bronze with overwatch 2? I was placed into silver 2 and I’m currently gold2 after playing for 2 months off and on. I have experience with other competitive games but does it make that big of a difference? Overwatch is pretty different from most others. Serious question not trying to be mean to this dude. Just an inexperienced overwatch player question.
Could be a number of reasons. There was a bronze 5 glitch first of all. Another note is that your mmr carries over to overwatch 2 I believe. Then the reset they just had of rank could have ranked them back down to bronze if they did rank up [reset just happened last week]. Maybe they Solo queue and don't communicate is another reason because not all roles are easy to solo carry. Internet connection, bad computer performance.
I don't know why some players struggle to get higher rank just enjoy the game no need for competitive playing
Also one more thing
How can we get on one of these videos lol
Who is the guy that Jay is talking to
How do you get into these games, cause I feel I deserve much higher than I am right now
It's a lottery system on his twitch, you're unlikely to ever get a shot at it.
I mean you pointed out his damage difference but failed to note that he mitigated 25k damage, thats huge. Guy definitely wasn't a great winston or zarya but I think he deserves Silver. He is not Bronze 5.
And that’s why he’s a bronze. People need to learn different hero’s. Play all of them
Playing rock paper scissors doesn't make you better
I think maybe there was a series of lucky plays at the beginning but this guy was looking like a Plat rein in a couple ways. Shield management is definitely not Plat and his firestrikes are very bronze. There's an aggressiveness that you just don't see in lower ranks here though. He is making space for his team in good ways, he could just be doing it better.
The graphics glitches are silly. Aldo this player is bronze
This doesn't look like bronze, silver or gold, getting healed, dps standing behind the shield, never seen this for a long time. My games are full of boss-eyed 8 year olds thinking they are playing COD, running out into the open and getting killed as fast as they possibly can.
late but idk if you figured out this isn't a bronze game. it's 9 gold players and one bronze.
they gotta stop putting cheezy in these games, he's cracked lol
Im fine with the sound effect that you use for swearing, but the editing to the video itself is really annoying.
I had stopped watching because of that effect lol
Cry
@@xDooby 🤓
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@@xDooby 🤓
DPS diff
I was in bronze and thought I deserved gold. I am now in gold👍
literally bronze 5 worthy, he belongs there
Everyone in here giving advice instead of just saying "dang, dude held his own, good for him!, well played sir" and its driving me nuts
Honestly I'm a solid silver/low gold player. I just gotta keep getting better.
Needed a kiriko lol I’m him
He's probably hard stuck bronze 5 for being overly aggressive as tank and a walking damage sponge and the bronze healers struggle to keep him up. Cos you know. Bronze
I swear I’m stuck in silver but I am Diamond level.
tbh his analysis of his own gameplay shows better than bronze just sayin
I am a Gold Reinhard and i want to proof myself in a Diamant or GM pls :((
u mean in broken matchmaking lobby? this is pointless since we both know we have real MMR system and FAKE rank system, even the devs stated that the real rank is MMR and not the ones we see on the screen.
I mean yea, he still should be in bronze tbh. Sucks cuz he seems like a nice guy, but he just needs to learn and play the game more