@@TheVindicar Thats the beauty of it... I've been playing for years now, at one point i was overwhelmed, but after dozens of colonies and ONI youtubers, i just got better to the point where I would just say "wish there was more to do now"... Fret not you can still enjoy the game with simple thriving base, try finishing all the achievements in one run, that oughta make the game fun and stressful XD
@@audrianmarak1574 simple thriving base? That's just the thing, it feels like there is no such thing in ONI. You *always* have a crisis to solve, be that heat buildup, stress buildup, or other kinds of resource exhaustion. Yes, there is a point where you can step aside and say "okay, my base can function without my input for a good long time, so I can focus on tinkering and experimenting with that fun thing I saw...". The problem is, it comes quite past the mid game. Which means that you can't sit around and learn the basic mechanics at relaxed pace before tackling complex stuff. Creative mode is of very little help because it factors out materials and power.
Hey Brothgar. Nice Video as always! We tested a little bit and: The carbon dioxide fridge combination doesn't work for two reasons now. 1. Only Hydrogen, Chlorine and Vacuum count as sterile (maybe some more gases) atmosphere. Edit: Carbon Dioxide counts as sterile atmosphere again. Other gases as well as liquids count as "normal" atmosphere and give debuffs depending on the food source. 2. The fridge only cools down to 2°C meaning it is refridgerated but not "deep frozen" that needs -18°C or lower. So the options are either cool food to -18°C or lower via any method plus sterile atmosphere or fridge plus sterile atmosphere (not vacuum that makes it nearly impossible to cool the fridge in that case) at -18 or lower but the fridge temperature doesn't matter in that situation. Have a nice day everyone :)
About the food temperature update : the temperature of the food is taken into account only if it is in a vacuum, if it is in a gas or liquid it is the temperature of this gas or liquid that is taken into account (you can have a freezer at -18 ° , if food at 75 ° is placed there it will immediately be in a deep frozen state, no need to cool it quickly). Edit: you can also use a couple weezwort for early deep freeze
I can already see how the next episode will play out, the whole map covered in build commands for Wallpaper and Brothgar asking himself why nothing gets done. It will be a perfect episode.
I started a new game with this update and I’ve found that on both asteroids I’ve landed on (my starting one and the one linked by teleported) there have been a LOT more geysers/volcanoes around, even more than in the base game with the geo-active trait on an asteroid
for the food i think i will store it in vacuum but on top a freezing cold metal tile , as the vacuum will avoid the spread of the cold is a easy solution
8:27 When the oxygen learns how to breakdance. Oh and sometimes you have to select the tiles next to the rocket if you want to select it on the star map. It worked for me.
I've been refrigerating food in sub-zero chlorine cooled by ethanol liquid. It doesn't transfer heat very efficiently making the liquid lock stay liquid so long as it's kept warm.
Hmmm the diamond cone needs to have a re-tape attachment for the diamond cone. For example when the cone has reached zero a back-up segment actives to continue mining and to balance it needs more diamonds to stay fair.
So what is the cooling power of a fridge? Can you set up an autosweeper and a conveyor receptacle on a timer to cycle cold food out for other cooling needs?
Wouldn't diamond presses need constant pressure to form diamonds? I think it'd be funnier if the dupe was struggling to pull/push the lever all the way. Maybe even have the option of more than one dupe pulling the lever, or one pull and one push, to get it done faster (though they'd have to implement tandem tasks).
Unless the resources are infinite, or some of them are not found on planetoids at all, I sorta don't understand the point of this feature. It seems like a regression back to the old space system in a way that doesn't really help anything. In short, what is the incentive to mine asteroid fields rather than planetoids? Just dupe management?
Insulate your gas pipe, but even then it will slowly lose temp inside the pipe so don't let it build up and stop in one place. Your steam might be too cold initially, if it's near ~100 degrees and it loses temp in the pipe then it will condense into water and break the pipe
@@defiantnight2668 I don't really let it sit I mean as soon as I connect the pipe it's breaking everywhere. What pipes you recommend? I use Insulated, and I've tried granite and Igneous for the most part.
@@riggerw8778 Huh. That's pretty odd even for cold steam unless it's really on the cusp of condensing, igneous should be fine. What temperature is the steam being pumped in?
@@riggerw8778 It sounds like it probably is. Cool steam vents emit it at 110 degrees, and you're probably sucking it up at an even cooler temperature as it disperses and shares heat with its surroundings. It only has to cool down to 97 on the way to space to break a pipe, and if it's immediately breaking the pipes before getting there then it's probably already cooled to around ~100 degrees when it's put in the pipe; unless the cool steam vent is right underneath the space biome, it might just be too far away. There are things you could do to mitigate this. You could fill the background tiles of the steam vent room with temperature shiftplates, to retain the heat for longer, insulate the whole room, run your pipes through insulated tiles to further reduce temperature drain - but it might be easier to make a thermo aquatuner room near your rocket. An insulated box with a thermo aquatuner and a gas pump (both made of either gold amalgam or steel) will make the transport of the steam much shorter, so even if it's only 110 or so in the box it should make it to the rocket.
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Hey Brothgar, like the videos. For the food, I was able to convert my vacuum storages into deep-freeze storages by adding a colling loop, a metal tile as the floor tile, and filling the space with chlorine. I used crude oil for my cooling loop since I needed something that could go to -25 C and I had to replace the seal with petroleum so the seal didn't freeze. All in all, we are pretty back to "storing food in chlorine" that worked so well pre DLC with the added difficulty of cooling the storage.
There were some folks upset about the food change on the forums and I don't get it. Sure, it's a breaking change, but you can't possibly look at infinite one tile storage of food with no power requirements and no spoilage and think "yep that's intended."
Klei never manages to disappoint us, never regretting the day i purchased this game :D
Exactly how I feel too!
I wish I could say the same, but they amped up the complexity of the game so much I can't keep up with it anymore...
@@TheVindicar Thats the beauty of it... I've been playing for years now, at one point i was overwhelmed, but after dozens of colonies and ONI youtubers, i just got better to the point where I would just say "wish there was more to do now"... Fret not you can still enjoy the game with simple thriving base, try finishing all the achievements in one run, that oughta make the game fun and stressful XD
@@TheVindicar I first felt like that a long time ago. It's so impressive what they've put together but I just don't have a place for it in my life.
@@audrianmarak1574 simple thriving base? That's just the thing, it feels like there is no such thing in ONI. You *always* have a crisis to solve, be that heat buildup, stress buildup, or other kinds of resource exhaustion. Yes, there is a point where you can step aside and say "okay, my base can function without my input for a good long time, so I can focus on tinkering and experimenting with that fun thing I saw...". The problem is, it comes quite past the mid game. Which means that you can't sit around and learn the basic mechanics at relaxed pace before tackling complex stuff. Creative mode is of very little help because it factors out materials and power.
Hey Brothgar. Nice Video as always!
We tested a little bit and:
The carbon dioxide fridge combination doesn't work for two reasons now.
1. Only Hydrogen, Chlorine and Vacuum count as sterile (maybe some more gases) atmosphere.
Edit: Carbon Dioxide counts as sterile atmosphere again.
Other gases as well as liquids count as "normal" atmosphere and give debuffs depending on the food source.
2. The fridge only cools down to 2°C meaning it is refridgerated but not "deep frozen" that needs -18°C or lower.
So the options are either cool food to -18°C or lower via any method plus sterile atmosphere
or fridge plus sterile atmosphere (not vacuum that makes it nearly impossible to cool the fridge in that case) at -18 or lower but the fridge temperature doesn't matter in that situation.
Have a nice day everyone :)
Thanks for the update :) I'll make a super Freezer
So, back to bleachstone for atmosphere and a metal floor with a hydrogen cooling loop?
Note to self: keep loop above -33°C.
Hydrogen, nice, that will be easy to make a fridge pocket.
About the food temperature update : the temperature of the food is taken into account only if it is in a vacuum, if it is in a gas or liquid it is the temperature of this gas or liquid that is taken into account (you can have a freezer at -18 ° , if food at 75 ° is placed there it will immediately be in a deep frozen state, no need to cool it quickly).
Edit: you can also use a couple weezwort for early deep freeze
Does liquid chlorine work for disinfecting food?
devs missed using rockets to physically mine out your home planet and found a fun way to re-implement it
Now we have a reason to get the "Not 0k, but pretty cool" achievement. Food Preservation
It's not a Brothgar video without "@KLEI!!!! WE BROKE THE GAME AGAIN"
By the way, the wallpaper mod finally got updated for the dlc
YAY!!!
Yooooooooooooooooooooo
@@brothgar noooooooooooo, now the dupes are going to waste time and resources on that useless stuff
I can already see how the next episode will play out, the whole map covered in build commands for Wallpaper and Brothgar asking himself why nothing gets done. It will be a perfect episode.
@@rogervanbommel1086 it gives a good decor for its cost of 5 of anything so honestly its worth it
Cackled like a madman when that tungsten turned to a tile 🤣
The one time Brothgar is excused for breaking the game because for once, it isn't his fault.
I started a new game with this update and I’ve found that on both asteroids I’ve landed on (my starting one and the one linked by teleported) there have been a LOT more geysers/volcanoes around, even more than in the base game with the geo-active trait on an asteroid
Yooooo let's goooo
Excellent!
Glad to see the artifacts back.
but charges for the brain machine when?
What artifacts?
junk clusters sound great and all, but hear me out...
one infinitely deep asteroid
Infinity resources 🤔
this are suppost to be renewable... acording to patch notes
Its actually a little unhealthy how much I look forward to a Brothgar video
Every update makes this game even more awesome. I really wonder how far the developer team can go.
for the food i think i will store it in vacuum but on top a freezing cold metal tile , as the vacuum will avoid the spread of the cold is a easy solution
Video at 2am at night? Yes please sleep can wait
Did you know that you can use caramel (melted sucrose)to fuel the sugar engine? I would love to see you use a sugar engine this way.
8:27
When the oxygen learns how to breakdance.
Oh and sometimes you have to select the tiles next to the rocket if you want to select it on the star map. It worked for me.
Oh my... Was in need of diamond for my tempshift plates... Nice
Move the food through liquid hydrogen tank before storing in vacuum
Just make sure to store it on an insulated ceramic tile!
Can now also finally skill up to deconstruct POI buildings.
Deconstruct POI in the base game?
@@jangohemmes352 Not sure, might just be DLC. But, yes, in-game.
I've been refrigerating food in sub-zero chlorine cooled by ethanol liquid. It doesn't transfer heat very efficiently making the liquid lock stay liquid so long as it's kept warm.
Do the resources in space regenerate if so...................INFINITE TUNGSTEN!!
The fullerine addiction continues :D
Looks like a fun update
Hmmm the diamond cone needs to have a re-tape attachment for the diamond cone. For example when the cone has reached zero a back-up segment actives to continue mining and to balance it needs more diamonds to stay fair.
research stationfor radiation is kinda like cnc machine, i like where this is going
now all they need is to add a large drill for larger runs and all will be good. and reduce the amount of diamond you need, it's a bit much atm imo.
i hope they add something like a spece station at some point
So what is the cooling power of a fridge? Can you set up an autosweeper and a conveyor receptacle on a timer to cycle cold food out for other cooling needs?
Wouldn't diamond presses need constant pressure to form diamonds? I think it'd be funnier if the dupe was struggling to pull/push the lever all the way. Maybe even have the option of more than one dupe pulling the lever, or one pull and one push, to get it done faster (though they'd have to implement tandem tasks).
Hooray!
Hmmm..... I think you are creating folded partitions with your play.... The landing pad being chosen but unavailable is one of these.
Where are you man ;(
Unless the resources are infinite, or some of them are not found on planetoids at all, I sorta don't understand the point of this feature. It seems like a regression back to the old space system in a way that doesn't really help anything. In short, what is the incentive to mine asteroid fields rather than planetoids? Just dupe management?
I think the resources might refill like the old planetoids as well
"Pre-used"
Hi thanks for te great vids
No problem 👍
if you store diamond in the cargo will refill the module ? maybe , need to be tested !
15:56 netative time and teleporting through space? i think your dupe wound up in a wormhole.
Are diamonds worth the trade off?
i wonder if that rocket drilling will make it to skill tree
Hey that's "mine"
I already have thoughts on cooling/warming any cargo brought back.
Could you stock diamond into the storage module so it gives you move than 1000kg diamonds to mine up?
The Steam Engine rockets always perplex me, How do you keep your steam pipe from rupturing? Mine constantly break and my rocket never gets steam.
Insulate your gas pipe, but even then it will slowly lose temp inside the pipe so don't let it build up and stop in one place. Your steam might be too cold initially, if it's near ~100 degrees and it loses temp in the pipe then it will condense into water and break the pipe
@@defiantnight2668 I don't really let it sit I mean as soon as I connect the pipe it's breaking everywhere. What pipes you recommend? I use Insulated, and I've tried granite and Igneous for the most part.
@@riggerw8778 Huh. That's pretty odd even for cold steam unless it's really on the cusp of condensing, igneous should be fine. What temperature is the steam being pumped in?
@@defiantnight2668 not sure, I usually take it right from a Cool Steam Vent when it's producing. Is that to cool?
@@riggerw8778 It sounds like it probably is. Cool steam vents emit it at 110 degrees, and you're probably sucking it up at an even cooler temperature as it disperses and shares heat with its surroundings. It only has to cool down to 97 on the way to space to break a pipe, and if it's immediately breaking the pipes before getting there then it's probably already cooled to around ~100 degrees when it's put in the pipe; unless the cool steam vent is right underneath the space biome, it might just be too far away.
There are things you could do to mitigate this. You could fill the background tiles of the steam vent room with temperature shiftplates, to retain the heat for longer, insulate the whole room, run your pipes through insulated tiles to further reduce temperature drain - but it might be easier to make a thermo aquatuner room near your rocket.
An insulated box with a thermo aquatuner and a gas pump (both made of either gold amalgam or steel) will make the transport of the steam much shorter, so even if it's only 110 or so in the box it should make it to the rocket.
Hey Brothgar, like the videos.
For the food, I was able to convert my vacuum storages into deep-freeze storages by adding a colling loop, a metal tile as the floor tile, and filling the space with chlorine. I used crude oil for my cooling loop since I needed something that could go to -25 C and I had to replace the seal with petroleum so the seal didn't freeze. All in all, we are pretty back to "storing food in chlorine" that worked so well pre DLC with the added difficulty of cooling the storage.
I forgot that I'd need to change the liquid in the seal, thanks!
@@martindinner3621 My pleasure.
There were some folks upset about the food change on the forums and I don't get it. Sure, it's a breaking change, but you can't possibly look at infinite one tile storage of food with no power requirements and no spoilage and think "yep that's intended."
Here you have sum oxygen
Some food and a toilet ...
NOW GO AND MAKE US PROUD
you need to cool the food to -18C before vacuum storage and that will solve that problem
Looks like they fixed the research for the conveyor thing that bugged you in your playthrough.
Yeah they did that a while back. This changes things a bit more.
Is Lerda still stressed? Has she talked with the kind pokeshell?
She is loosing it.
I wonder if you can be diamond positive mining carbon
Can your pipes handle liquid Tungsten?
Hrm. That radbolt engine sure seems _safe_ ...
19:00 you could run it throw some metal tiles that are -10 and then store it in the vacuum
Good idea, but you need to go colder. Like at least -18°C.
What the heck? How can your nuclear rocket fly without an oxidizer????
Pure thermal expansion!
Cool!
Couldnt you also just load more diamonds ontop this ship to reload the drill or can you not reload the drill from the cockpit?
For the food, just froze it then store it in vacuum it would be easier than store it in a frozen environment
Kkk
no racist pls
@@walterg3254 ok, don't be sorry, i'm brazilian and i don't understand american cultures sorry
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@@walterg3254 👍🏻
Temp of food only applie sin vacuum. Outside vacuum, it is gas temp (even just a few mcg
They changed that
@@brothgar That was fast. OK, so how hard to cool that generic ooz called food?
Just tested. Gas temperature for deep freeze condition, only vacuum is food temp