Good show, Q. I agree with your comments about possible HC candidates. I really, really don’t want Gruden and would feel hopeful with Arians or Carroll. Carroll especially because he has a LOT of experience playing against all of the other coaches in our division. I think he would be the best coach to compete with these dudes. I had to go to RUclips to hear the show today as it wasn’t available yet on Apple or Amazon podcasts. 😢
Maybe I'll be excited when this magical HOF coach appears out of no where, but for me, the excitement and passion the was inspired by AP, left the building with him. At some point, the ownership and leadership of this organization has to actually look like all them mottos on the walls. If the fire that burns brightest is still winning, then right now it's barely an emergency candle.
It is what it is. Can't blame AP for all of the injuries, and the players that they elevated played hard, but not at a level they needed to be for the team to win. Gotta think how different the year would have been if Koonce, Crosby and Wilkins had stayed healthy. That might have been a defense that could have carried us while the offense was struggling. On to the off-season!
Problem was their OC/QB coach, and OL coach, and QB…. AP gave Getsy too much say and led to two lame OGs in free agency. Telesco should’ve kept Eluemunor just for continuity. And somehow they ignore Sincere at RB for the zone scheme???
I'm glad you brought up Amik's play vs Justin Jefferson. I was happy for the dude but it was making me sick too. All this coaching instability leads solid players with great potential out the door to play for other teams. We gotta get someone who can capitalize on the positive drafting record of telesco.
Interesting to see the changes that will be made. Lotta draft picks, and a lot of cap space. I like Coen and Ben Johnson, and I think you should stick and pick, grab bpa, and see if AOC has any juice next year. I don't love the quarterbacks coming out of the draft this year. I think Shedeur without the name is Bo Nix (which is pretty good but not franchise saving), and Cam Ward just feels like a bust if he doesn't go to a perfect situation (we aren't).
Like McDaniels? And who wants to come hear - this team will not get a Johnson or a Mike Vrabel.... We should have kept him and built the team to attract someone in 2026. We are in the AFC West. 3 Playoff teams. Nobody will want join our team in this situation.
I like Liam Cohen as the head coach and Robert Salah as the DC. Its funny that the Bengals want P G as their head coach. Was i the only person who saw pur defense just get steam rolled by the Bengals .
The biggest problem with Gruden was he sucked at 1st round drafting. If he was willing to be a coach and let Telesco be a gm he would probably be pretty good. Hard to imagine him being ok without that level of control though.
It's not that hard to pick a good player ... look up stats and watch some highlights .... bowers , jpj , glaze , we gotta see more from glaze...who else do have 3 out of 7 maybe Richardson 😅
I’ve been thinking the same thing. I think it’s possible Gruden gives up roster control this time since he’s coming with less leverage than he came with last time
pretty much everyone is on board with that… I can see Gruden do wonders with the QB Howard (Ohio St) or Dart… 1st pick: CB/DT fr MU or Az WR 2nd: Best OL or LB from Bama 3rd: RB 3rd: QB
If the Raiders bring Liam Coen as HC and Bruce Arians as the assistant HC. Since Arians is great at building a coaching staff. Then he would mentor Coen at the last time
See this is why Al Davis didn’t want or care for that rule to be named after him. He said he didn’t need to interview or hire someone just because they are black
Goodluck with Cincy PG! Glad you're going on to bigger and better things ...we will go after Vrabel and we will be a sub .500 team! Look at his lack of success with the Titans! He had that stud team and only made it to the AFC Championship game ONCE!
Hey Q, I am kind of disappointed that the Raiders let AP go after one season. I think he should have had a chance to draft his own QB. I think he was giving the Raiders an Identity as a hard nose football. I wish him the best in the future.
@JSteel-j6d the fact you ignored the statement you responded shows you have invalid opinion. Pierce want Daniel's they couldn't draft him. AoC was a McDaniels qb and Minshew was Telecos.
Except we never established our identity. We were dead last in rushing, bottom of the league in offense and very middle of the road on defense near the bottom of the league in creating turnovers etc. He talked the talk, but he didn’t walk the walk
@@coreykuhl3079 I will agree the Identity part was not realized,but I think he should have been given more time like Dan Campbell got in Detroit. But ultimately it was Mark Davis’ decision.
Crazy everyone thinks it so wrong the Raiders had AP do a presser then fire him the NEXT DAY, lol stop it Mark Davis had JDR announce his firing right after the Chargers game 😂
That’s why we need to eliminate the Rooney Rule. It’s a joke. We need to get back to meritocracy regardless of race, color or gender. At this point, the rule is hurting qualified coaches that get the asterisk attached to their interviews.
Telesco sabotaged pierce the moment minshew was signed. How you do that to him and let him get the axe for a doomed from the start offseason. Leadership is intangible and a natural ability. Game time decisions, checking you're motions at the podium, and clock management are learnable skills. Especially for a first time head coach. This firing is a shame.
I see it like this. Full disclosure, I wanted Mr Davis to hire Coach Pierce last year. I did. We all did. It was demanded, by fans chanting in the stadium and players like Crosby. I think we were all wrong. AP was never even a coordinator ever. AP was not qualified. But we all wanted him. Mr Davis should no longer bow to pressure from fans or players like Crosby. Mr Davis was wrong, as all of us were. That’s how I see it. 🏴☠️
First of all AP was not given the tools to succeed he didnt get the qb he wanted(telesco) didnt get the oc he wanted( telesco) didnt match jacobs contract with green bay(telesco) didnt move up to get the qb (telesco) mark fired the wrong guy telesco sabotaged AP
Who the hell wanna coach this team…No consistency…every year new system…players get tired of the BS….I don’t blame them…Fumble boy is gonna run us to the ground…Watch.
Everyone knew AP was getting the boot. Raiders cannot afford having an unexperienced coach in the AFC West going against Andy Reid, Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh. The Raiders need an experienced HC, hopefully they make the right decision this time. ☠️☠️☠️
Raiders died with Al Davis. Idk who tf this organization is. Marc want to be the Patriots so bad. If I wanted to root for the MFn Patriots. I'd wear blue n red or whatever tf colors they wear instead of Silver n Black. Marc turned the Raiders into a Vegas sideshow for opposing teams.
The guy that called in and said "it doesn't matter how much it cost.Go get jon Gruden" it's funny how broke people always tell other people how to spend their money
May of well have stuck one more season because LOOK at OUR division. People are being unrealistic about the situation. We don't just need to be good. We need to being Lions good. We need to win 13 games. We are going to take at least 2 if not 3 years to complete. while building we should have kept AP for his contract. We should save money of flashy FAs and just try pick up some gems like Spillane - don't spend cap for the sake of it - that rolls over. Also Best player available in draft. Until we are a complete ready to win team. Then we attract the best coach because we have a great foundation of a team... Wait for the QB to come to us instead of reach (through FA or draft). And finally maximise our cap spending. Every time you half a55 it you end up like the pervious 10 years limping. in mid table mediocrity.
Rooney Rule works... look at Soccer! In the UK we have 47% Black players and one manager of mixed heritage in the Primer League. I n all top 4 professional divisions there is only 1 more manager who is Black in the fourth tier. thats 92 teams. *sidenote: Not to be morbid but Andy Reid is 66 and 3??lbs. - We might be a stick of butter away from coach Reid going SOMEWHERE* .
And who wants to come hear? this team will not get a Johnson or a Mike Vrabel.... We should have kept him to see out his contract. Because whoever comes is ending 3rd or 4th next year. and built the team to attract someone in 2026. AND forget reaching for a mid QB. We NEED a top 5 QB to compete. And 2025 draft has NOT got that. We are in the AFC West. 3 Playoff teams. Nobody will want join our team in this situation.
*GREAT SHOW* ⭐⭐⭐⭐
Wow, this podcast has grown so much I joined when there was 400 subscribers😁keep up the good work guys thanks👏🏾
he have that crooked hairline then too?
Appreciate you!!! - Ari
I WISH A.P THE BEST AND HIS FAMILY 💯
Love the BA idea. Great meeting you the other week at the sw entrance
Good show, Q. I agree with your comments about possible HC candidates. I really, really don’t want Gruden and would feel hopeful with Arians or Carroll. Carroll especially because he has a LOT of experience playing against all of the other coaches in our division. I think he would be the best coach to compete with these dudes. I had to go to RUclips to hear the show today as it wasn’t available yet on Apple or Amazon podcasts. 😢
I'll pass this along to Q but thanks for watching. - Ari
Maybe I'll be excited when this magical HOF coach appears out of no where, but for me, the excitement and passion the was inspired by AP, left the building with him. At some point, the ownership and leadership of this organization has to actually look like all them mottos on the walls. If the fire that burns brightest is still winning, then right now it's barely an emergency candle.
We act like the best coach is going to come here if that was case we would one by now
AP made too many bad personnel decisions and had top many advisors. He quit thinking for himself and made bad game decisions as well
They are going to find it hard to attract a good coach soon after all the firing 5 years in Vegas 5 coaches isn't good
Salute 🫡 Ari, Q & Nation 🏴☠️
" THANK YOU A.P !
OTHERWISE , WE PROBABLY STILL BE STUCK WITH " MCDUMAZZ !!!
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Hello my Raider Brother good show once again man. But is it safe to say he asked Tom T. and found out o wow we wish him well.
Ben Johnson would be a great hire 🏴☠️
Good show
I like Bruce as well, SB winning coach w Gruden, he may could convince Gruden to be a off Co . It’s possible love it
Bruce Arians is an awesome idea Q
It is what it is. Can't blame AP for all of the injuries, and the players that they elevated played hard, but not at a level they needed to be for the team to win. Gotta think how different the year would have been if Koonce, Crosby and Wilkins had stayed healthy. That might have been a defense that could have carried us while the offense was struggling. On to the off-season!
Problem was their OC/QB coach, and OL coach, and QB…. AP gave Getsy too much say and led to two lame OGs in free agency. Telesco should’ve kept Eluemunor just for continuity. And somehow they ignore Sincere at RB for the zone scheme???
Leftwich is not good at all… Tampa offense got better when he left…
QDAWG 💪💪🍻 RAAAAAAAIIIIDERS🥃💯
I remember John madden telling his team before they played the Vikings in the Super Bowl it only matters if you win🏆🏆🏆
I'm glad you brought up Amik's play vs Justin Jefferson. I was happy for the dude but it was making me sick too.
All this coaching instability leads solid players with great potential out the door to play for other teams. We gotta get someone who can capitalize on the positive drafting record of telesco.
Interesting to see the changes that will be made. Lotta draft picks, and a lot of cap space. I like Coen and Ben Johnson, and I think you should stick and pick, grab bpa, and see if AOC has any juice next year. I don't love the quarterbacks coming out of the draft this year. I think Shedeur without the name is Bo Nix (which is pretty good but not franchise saving), and Cam Ward just feels like a bust if he doesn't go to a perfect situation (we aren't).
What about Spags?
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GOOD . Now this time, maybe we can get a head coach that has actually been a head coach before.
😂good luck! If that was the case we would be winning by now
Couple things, if they were so good at being a head coach why are they looking for a job? And why would that person take this job?
@@jamescarrot6148 The simple answer is,,, $ $$ $ $ $$ $ .
Like McDaniels? And who wants to come hear - this team will not get a Johnson or a Mike Vrabel.... We should have kept him and built the team to attract someone in 2026. We are in the AFC West. 3 Playoff teams. Nobody will want join our team in this situation.
All Head Coaches have to start somewhere. I think he was a good coach, he didn’t have much to work with really.
Great call no one is talking bout Arriens hope Nation makes some noise bout this, all 65,000 of us. Let’s Gooooo
He can also just be a high paid OC…
Traditionally, the Raiders wait till the best are taken, we will see.
I like Liam Cohen as the head coach and Robert Salah as the DC.
Its funny that the Bengals want P G as their head coach. Was i the only person who saw pur defense just get steam rolled by the Bengals .
Here we go again! Another decade gone! Gooo RAIDERRRRRRS!!! El Pirata.
Looking back, maybe it would’ve been a better move to put PG at HC & AP as DC instead 🤔
The biggest problem with Gruden was he sucked at 1st round drafting. If he was willing to be a coach and let Telesco be a gm he would probably be pretty good. Hard to imagine him being ok without that level of control though.
Yea he was bad at drafting and his teams shit the bed in the 2nd half of the season
It's not that hard to pick a good player ... look up stats and watch some highlights .... bowers , jpj , glaze , we gotta see more from glaze...who else do have 3 out of 7 maybe Richardson 😅
I’ve been thinking the same thing. I think it’s possible Gruden gives up roster control this time since he’s coming with less leverage than he came with last time
I totally agree with that thought.
pretty much everyone is on board with that… I can see Gruden do wonders with the QB Howard (Ohio St) or Dart…
1st pick: CB/DT fr MU or Az WR
2nd: Best OL or LB from Bama
3rd: RB
3rd: QB
Why not Graham???
If the Raiders bring Liam Coen as HC and Bruce Arians as the assistant HC. Since Arians is great at building a coaching staff. Then he would mentor Coen at the last time
Telesco is that guy w build a powerhouse in 2 yrs. 2 more years is all it’s gonna take
It will be Arians, Carroll or Gruden. Somebody that won a SB.
id take a little less power hungry Gruden any day of the week and he focuses on the offense
Q, the issue I have with Pete Carroll or Bruce Arians is we will be looking for another coach in another 2 to 3 years because they’re gonna retire
Yes bring back Chucky
Question, we have Andy Reid, Jim Harbough, Shawn Peyton, who we bringing in to match wits and compete, and actually beat these guys, Just Win Baby.
See this is why Al Davis didn’t want or care for that rule to be named after him. He said he didn’t need to interview or hire someone just because they are black
who is belicheck gonna bring in for OC??
Pete Carroll didn’t do any NIL at SC! SC was targeted by the SEC! Lol
Goodluck with Cincy PG! Glad you're going on to bigger and better things ...we will go after Vrabel and we will be a sub .500 team! Look at his lack of success with the Titans! He had that stud team and only made it to the AFC Championship game ONCE!
No to Gruden. He never goes away 😂
Hey Q, I am kind of disappointed that the Raiders let AP go after one season. I think he should have had a chance to draft his own QB. I think he was giving the Raiders an Identity as a hard nose football. I wish him the best in the future.
I agree.
Like we were going to win with minshew or aoc 😂 give me a break
@JSteel-j6d the fact you ignored the statement you responded shows you have invalid opinion. Pierce want Daniel's they couldn't draft him. AoC was a McDaniels qb and Minshew was Telecos.
Except we never established our identity. We were dead last in rushing, bottom of the league in offense and very middle of the road on defense near the bottom of the league in creating turnovers etc.
He talked the talk, but he didn’t walk the walk
@@coreykuhl3079 I will agree the Identity part was not realized,but I think he should have been given more time like Dan Campbell got in Detroit. But ultimately it was Mark Davis’ decision.
" NOPE NOPE NOPE...." NO
TO " JON GRUDEN......NO !!!
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Obviously lots of baggage… but he still is a real Raider… He just can’t be allowed to have a say with personnel
Prime Time
Telesco didn’t hire the coach at the Chargers upper management did
really? so he took the fall for the owners? Classy that he never said anything if that’s true
Crazy everyone thinks it so wrong the Raiders had AP do a presser then fire him the NEXT DAY, lol stop it Mark Davis had JDR announce his firing right after the Chargers game 😂
Bring Back Gruden!!
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Pete Carroll
Marvin Lewis has been a head coach why doesn’t he get an interview
Hell, hire Gruden just to develop the new QB ???
Come on Q you know AP was a rookie coach. He will make mistakes just like any other head coach. AP was establishing a culture.
Tired of supporting a team, since late 80s, that show me nothing but misery each and every year.
It is ridiculous. However, you're just being dishonest to count Rich as a head coach, he was an interim, that doesn't count.
That’s why we need to eliminate the Rooney Rule. It’s a joke. We need to get back to meritocracy regardless of race, color or gender. At this point, the rule is hurting qualified coaches that get the asterisk attached to their interviews.
Telesco sabotaged pierce the moment minshew was signed. How you do that to him and let him get the axe for a doomed from the start offseason.
Leadership is intangible and a natural ability. Game time decisions, checking you're motions at the podium, and clock management are learnable skills. Especially for a first time head coach. This firing is a shame.
Ben Johnson would not want to coach the Raiders and they don’t even have a QB
F the Raiders.. I'm out after being in since 1967.
That's why the Rooney rule sucks
Bruce Arians has health issues 😢
Hell,...go steal the Steelers HC. Better Pats for Mike than Raiders. Need OC not DC
I already made my tweets about this situation.
Good, get rid of the Rooney rule. It has not anybody a real head coaching job.
Get rid of the "Rooney Rule" and then you can quit complaing about "he's a Rooney Rule guy."
I see it like this. Full disclosure, I wanted Mr Davis to hire Coach Pierce last year. I did. We all did. It was demanded, by fans chanting in the stadium and players like Crosby. I think we were all wrong. AP was never even a coordinator ever. AP was not qualified. But we all wanted him. Mr Davis should no longer bow to pressure from fans or players like Crosby. Mr Davis was wrong, as all of us were. That’s how I see it. 🏴☠️
First of all AP was not given the tools to succeed he didnt get the qb he wanted(telesco) didnt get the oc he wanted( telesco) didnt match jacobs contract with green bay(telesco) didnt move up to get the qb (telesco) mark fired the wrong guy telesco sabotaged AP
Who the hell wanna coach this team…No consistency…every year new system…players get tired of the BS….I don’t blame them…Fumble boy is gonna run us to the ground…Watch.
Patients... Patients... have you met this organization and fanbase? 😂😂😂 wishful thinking.
Everyone knew AP was getting the boot. Raiders cannot afford having an unexperienced coach in the AFC West going against Andy Reid, Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh. The Raiders need an experienced HC, hopefully they make the right decision this time. ☠️☠️☠️
Mark davis is a 🤡
Raiders died with Al Davis. Idk who tf this organization is. Marc want to be the Patriots so bad. If I wanted to root for the MFn Patriots. I'd wear blue n red or whatever tf colors they wear instead of Silver n Black. Marc turned the Raiders into a Vegas sideshow for opposing teams.
I think Peyton Manning would make a GREAT Head Coach. I wonder if he has any interest in coaching.
😂
AP did a good job when he finally got an offensive coordinator the whole team look different long time Raider fan
No not Jon Gruden I personally don't think he did the team Justice
The guy that called in and said "it doesn't matter how much it cost.Go get jon Gruden" it's funny how broke people always tell other people how to spend their money
May of well have stuck one more season because LOOK at OUR division. People are being unrealistic about the situation. We don't just need to be good. We need to being Lions good. We need to win 13 games. We are going to take at least 2 if not 3 years to complete. while building we should have kept AP for his contract. We should save money of flashy FAs and just try pick up some gems like Spillane - don't spend cap for the sake of it - that rolls over. Also Best player available in draft. Until we are a complete ready to win team. Then we attract the best coach because we have a great foundation of a team... Wait for the QB to come to us instead of reach (through FA or draft). And finally maximise our cap spending. Every time you half a55 it you end up like the pervious 10 years limping. in mid table mediocrity.
Rooney Rule works... look at Soccer! In the UK we have 47% Black players and one manager of mixed heritage in the Primer League. I n all top 4 professional divisions there is only 1 more manager who is Black in the fourth tier. thats 92 teams.
*sidenote: Not to be morbid but Andy Reid is 66 and 3??lbs. - We might be a stick of butter away from coach Reid going SOMEWHERE* .
And who wants to come hear? this team will not get a Johnson or a Mike Vrabel.... We should have kept him to see out his contract. Because whoever comes is ending 3rd or 4th next year. and built the team to attract someone in 2026. AND forget reaching for a mid QB. We NEED a top 5 QB to compete. And 2025 draft has NOT got that. We are in the AFC West. 3 Playoff teams. Nobody will want join our team in this situation.
Can we get a college coach