That M2 graphics score at the ends was very pleasing btw. I always wanted to make my own hackintosh, however, I don't quite need it yet, but I just now it'll be all fun once I need it and get to make it lol
I was rebelling over 30 years ago building hackintosh with original apple hardware. Cheapest way was to get boards from an upgraded mac and put in pc cases and modify video hardware to work with standard monitors.
@@Pawel-rv1ek because he bought naked (caseless) used mac motherboard, and you have to modify it because it doesn't work just like that without apple's monitor
I've upgraded the SSD in my 2014 Macbook Pro Retina 15" (Purchased in 2015). I'm also on my third battery. Original, Apple Replacement, and the last one I replaced myself when I did the SSD ( and cleaned up the insides/repasted the chip). I loathe Apple but love their Macbooks and OS X is my jam. I refuse to be flogged with their pricing scheme though. I'll make this last as long as I can and learn how to use Hackintosh on a fresher refurbished unit with respectable specs.
I am interest in seeing if it is practical to convert my Dell 8940 to a Hacintosh. I have a 3.8 ghz 10 th gen I7, a 2Tb nmve SSD drive, and a RTX 2070 Super with 8Gb of vram. It runs Geekbench 20 percent faster than with my IMac Pro. How hard is a dual boot machine?
I used to Hackintosh but you can't edit on a battery at full speed on a Hackintosh. I don't know if anyone will pull it off with Qualcomm's next chip but if that happens I'd try it again.
I built a Hackintosh 8 years ago. There were always lots of little things that just never worked. Every system update held the potential for disaster. Figuring out the settings for all the various bits of hardware was a nightmare. the question for me was: Do I want to endlessly fiddle with system stuff, or do I want to work? You get what you pay for.
Interesting take. For me, I won’t be fiddling - one day I’ll they it to sonoma and just leave it, and I’ll clone my boot drive so I have an easy backup should it go wrong. I feel like with Apple in 2023, you don’t get what you pay for - $300 for 8GB of RAM is absurd. That said, if I did have the money to configure a modern mac to my liking, I would.
Yep, me too, it was painful & bit I the bullet years ago. My main current macs are a mini M1 base model & it’s great, I got it second hand a couple of years ago. Whilst more internal storage would be nice, I just use an external SSD. 8gb is fine too, the only time I’ve had issue was loading large Kontakt libraries, so it does have limitations. I also run parallels with ARM win 11, and this works well enough for compiling win apps, but would benefit from 16gb I think. I also have an Intel 2017 Intel MacBook i7 15" which was cheap. I like to have a dual boot system for windows sessions, working away, gaming etc… & it’s a very nice fast machine and the fan doesn’t get as noisy as earlier MacBooks I’ve had. I will never go back down the hackintosh route again, as you say there’s always something that doesn’t work properly like waking from sleep etc…
@@QuinsTechCorner my local recycling centers want to profit off anything that has any life left, deals are terrible for the ones that actually bother to sell anything. Either they scrap totally for materials, or they are refurbing the product themselves and selling for more than its worth. Gumtree is AUS, so thats a bust. ebay leaves me paying more than its really worth for a 15 year old machine. and school dumpsters are usually filled with.... trash.
@@kaptainkaos1202 I think, at this stage, that would be almost impossible. This is running on the bare metal, directly, via OpenCore (and using an intel build of macOS). I'd be really keen to hear how it goes for you, keep me posted!
can you please give the specific details about the asrock rx 570 graphics card . What Phantom Gaming series are you using here???? is it PGX or PGD or phantom Gaming U. I am looking for asrock rx 570 but cant find anywhere online .
'$350' Hackintosh, installs another $200 worth of hardware. I'd rather buy a $500 M2 Mac Mini and save myself the head ache... oh well, guess it just isn't for me. Happy tinkerin' to those that decide to go this route.
@@QuinsTechCorner Maybe I will have to give it a go must be lots of forums etc it just seem very overwhelming for someone who is not so familiar with this kind of thing
Great video and based on this and a failed iMac it inspired me to go down the Hackintosh route. I purchased the same Dell machine and GPU. Followed the OpenCore instructions to the letter BUT I cannot get the GPU recognised when trying to install into the machine. Did you use a specific Kext, AML and modification in the config.plist and if so, would you share that info as I have been sat for 4 days trying to sort the issue. Any help give will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Hey, If you’ve got the exact same hardware I have here, it can definitely work. Feel free to join our community discord here: discord.gg/gXayHTUWuJ. and I can give you a hand. I do apologise though, I might be slow to reply over the next few days (Christmas shenanigans). cheers.
@@QuinsTechCorner Thank you, the invite has been accepted. Hardware is the same, Dellt3630, 32GBRam, i7 8700, RX570 8GB and build instructions from Opencore followed explicitly. OSX boots if I use the internal GPU but black screens at the end of the script run when using the rx570 even though this is accepted by windows. Frustrating to say the least
@@QuinsTechCorner Thank you so much for the offer, I don't really know how but after many iterations of the alm and kext folder contents, I have it working with Sanoma and currently transferring my apps and docs using Migration Assistant. Your video gave me the inspiration to try and get a decent spec Mac worknig
I have a xeon e5 2690 v3 desktop setup that has been laying around since i bought laptop (i don't really like using desktop pc unless it was so necessary it was tiring to me) but i don't know where to start in order to properly install and condigure hackintosh i tried few times before but eventually come across issues and gave up
I paid $350 for a 2019 27" iMac (and then spent more upgrading to i9, adding 64GB ram, a 2TB NVME and 4TB SATA SSD.. bring it up closer to $1000 all in). If you are just going to stick with 8th/9th gen Intel, I think this is the better option if you don't have a decent monitor already. Had I not already done that, I'd pick up a 12th or 13th gen Intel CPU and an AMD GPU and build something that way.
This machine is near-silent, but I must admit when under heavy load you can hear the fans. Intel machines just can’t match the power efficiency (and therefore lower temperatures) of Apple silicon. BUT we can swap the fans out to make it even quieter. :-)
I’m really glad! Yes, I see no reason why not! The RX550 is a Polaris card, same as my RX570. Feel free to join our discord if you want to chat about your ideas with likeminded folks! discord.gg/bj5CNnHuNH
So... AU$350 PLUS a drive and discrete GPU? Closer to AU$600 - which, don't get me wrong, is still much cheaper than a brand new Mac Mini, but given the performance is between a 2018 mini and a 2020 mini means the price comparison should be between this second-hand device and the second-hand minis... and that's a much lower differential.
It’s nowhere near 600. The machine was $350, the drive and card I bought second hand for maybe $30-$50 all together. It took a while but good deals come up. :-)
@@QuinsTechCornerTrue, and fair point. But you're still comparing AU$400 plus effort to build and maintain to a 2018 mini at ~$600 or a 2020 mini at ~$800. Not everyone will view the Hackintosh as a clear winner. Cheers!
considering this build versus using the asus z790-v board with i9-10700k I have for sonoma. just like to run the latest macOS. not doing nothing major just hate windows. apple 21.5" too small and 3k+ for larger imac rumored for 2025 it's a bit much. I've had three imac 27' prior before apple doubled it's pricing. they don't seem to last very long in my opinion.
Interesting! The 10700k is roughly 10% faster than the CPU I have in this machine, so you'll have no issues with performance. A word of caution though, these hackintosh projects are not going to be great for long-term. Apple will eventually (soon) stop building macOS for Intel, and when that happens we'll no longer be able to get up-to-date versions of macOS unless we actually have a real mac. I do agree it's pretty upsetting the way the pricing structures have been going in recent years. I love the hardware, but no longer buy anything from Apple due to this, and issues with anti-consumer policies/design.
great system. i have built many hacks over the years. currently on an x99 12 core xeon, rx570. while not the fastest is more than enough. dual ssd, dual boot as i have ubuntu also.
I’m a Linux person, and tried Mac a couple of times. I bought an old MacBook Pro from 2012 and use it as my main laptop (NOT my main computer). I just got Monterrey running on it, even being “incompatible”. This is what s*cks with Apple.
not fully funtional is a down side what you need and what someone else needs are not the same and therefor your system does not kill any mac system in this case but interesting enough it does function how ever i might also point out all intel macs and can run windows natively either full on or via boot camp and can also run many other OS's Apple Silicon is stuck with VMS to run windows now but not a bad thing they can still run other OS's as well with out the need for a VM the list goes on , interesting video tho
These hackintoshes work better when you have them running in a passthru configured VM on Linux via QEMU, IMO. You still end up using OpenCore, but by just reserving 1 CPU core and the minimum amount of RAM on something like Fluxbox or IceWM for the host OS, you get so much more. You can set up cheaper mechanical drives or SATA SSD's as storage on the host OS for network storage useable to any PC on your network, you get snapshots and backups of your Mac OS in case anything should go awry with your hackintosh configuration or if an OS update borks anything. OpenCore has allowed hackintosh to come a long way from what hackintoshes were before OpenCore existed, in terms of stability and viability, but the potential for things to just bork still exists, even in an actual Mac, so I still like to take precaution.
The thing not many take notice of is this. For the price of one single Apple workstation, with $350-700 ,you have at least three workstations and three servers, multiple backup drives, and still not spend as much.
This is only worth it you only need macOS for some apps, if you use macOS all the time then a bare metal install is better. Also it will be awfully slow without GPU passthrough. For Hackintosh configuration simply store it in two places, Hackintosh update problems are rare nowadays. If you're worried about it breaking just make a backup before updating.
Pity, looks like you still need (or know someone) that has an Apple account to download the OS to stick on the USB. Unless you can find it out there on the net somewhere. Do you need a Mac to download or is the login to get the image good enough?
Ah, maybe I shouldn’t have skipped over the USB build process so quickly. There’s a tool for windows and mac that will download macOS’s recovery environment for you. Check out the opencore guide to see how! Works really well.
Hi bro, I came across this tutorial and love how it is built. Can you help me on my dell OptiPlex 7040 with intel i5-6500 in build Graphic I try all my effects no way Please help me?
I hate Windows because it sucks, but I can afford one. I love MacOS because it's great, but I can't afford a Mac. *uses the system he hates to build a janky Mac clone that's going to be an endless source of compatibility issues going forward* Yep. Apple fanboi logic in action.
But why do people want so badly to install Mac OS that you can't install anything else on, besides Apple software etc. I mean I have a 2020 iMac 27" %700xt 16gb system, I run both Windows and Mac Os on it. But once Apple drops Intel support, we can kiss Bootcamp goodbye.
Don't waste time on Hackintosh. A lot of bugs/headach/non-booting/system crash on it . Just go to buy a cheaper pre-own real Mac, like MacBook Pro, iMac or Mac mini, which just rang $200-$500
This machine had given me nothing but stability. It was very easy to set up, and gives me the performance of low end apple silicon for $300AU. This level of performance from a real max costs about $900AU in the used market.
As someone who has used a hackintosh for about 3 years, it's not the best experience, any update can just screw your machine, and things can even just break randomly after a reboot if you were to get a Mac, I'd recommend only upgrading the RAM, getting the 10GB Ethernet option on the Mac mini, and building a NAS is a much better, and cheaper alternative from apple's ludicrous prices for storage, I can get behind their RAM prices, since it's built into the SOC, so it's costly for them as well, but their storage prices are just absurd.
Good take. The storage is definitely the worst priced upgrade. I run a 2009 mac mini as a super basic NAS (dual 4TB drives) which works quite well. Thanks for the well wishes, fingers crossed.
An external NVMe SSD is better than a NAS, it's as fast and convient as internal storage, while still being many times cheaper than Apple storage configurations.
Yeah it’s a tough one… I don’t expect this machine to live more than a few years in this state, but it’s a compromise I’m willing to make for the time being, while I can’t afford a real mac.
Trouble is - its about 5 times taller, its not stable, can't upgrade the OP system with out more tinkering, more space required, heavier, runs hotter and its ugly .... O' yeh - it takes longer to boot
It’s not for everyone. Personally I’ll swallow the extra size and 5-10 second boot time. I must say though, upgrading OS and stability is absolutely fantastic with open core, a luxury that chameleon and other legacy bootloaders didn’t afford us.
@@atta1798 Technically that should be possible, yes! AMD hackintosh is a bit tricky, n out everything will work perfectly but I’ve done it in the past with a ryzen 5. :-)
If you hate Windows, why are you using it for games? Use Linux. I hate Apple and I don't use their products. I don't like to be limited. And I don't use Linux because they made a mess with a billion distros people made. Apple is good for productivity programs, Windows for gaming and Linux could be good at both if they didn't make a billion distros and focused developers on 3 distros from standard, professional, and server versions. 4 version could be Linux on ARM. Something I wish Windows would do for more than 10 years. And probably but sadly only Apple will succeed first.
I used linux for gaming for quite a long time, but the translation layer just isn’t perfect for many of the games I play. I also have a weird relationship with apple.. I hate them as a company but enjoy the products and software.
saying “they made a billion distros” makes you sound silly. they’re almost all based off of arch or debian/ubuntu. you act as if “linux” is a company. it’s just based off the linux kernel.
This is so dumb. I have NEVER used some bench tests nor do they offer REAL performance proof. One person runs DAW with 36 tracks going, and someone else uses the same DAW with 12 plug ins, and bench testing does not account for anything. So what is the PRICE of the Mac over the $350 PC????? Does that price offset the extra 150 watts per year?NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@@QuinsTechCorner blah blah blah..look who has to resort to 4th grade deflection...awwww Did a few of us hurt the Apple baby's feelings..??whhaaaaaaaaaaaaa...you're welcome
@@QuinsTechCorner What a complete fraud and such a contradiction you are. If you have nothing to discuss with me than why were you suggesting a $5 bet,and responding to me at all????If you stood on that you would have ignored me in the first place. You cannot even make up your mind nor even keep a position. Your helmet and chair in the corner awaits,and Mommy needs her computer back.I cannot even openly delve any deeper because you will run to YT and cry that I am bothering the little princess...hehehehehe...Oops..let me finish watching this movie, since you're not 'discussing with me'...
Linux has better Apps than you think. Many simply don't have the interest or wherewithal to learn about them. Interestingly enough MacOS is build on the same Unix file structure as Linux.
Thanks for your comments folks! Yeah it’s a tough one. Don’t get me wrong, I adore GIMP, and there are video editing options, but they’re just not direct replacements for adobe or apple apps :-(
I don't get the idea of recommending Mint to everyone. It looks like outdated crap, is based on Ubuntu, I believe it lacks recent kernels and packages. ZorinOS another Ubuntu fork, how many frankensteins do we need in the Linux world? Just get Fedora or Arch.
@@Pawel-rv1ek Some Hackintoshes are more expensive than real Macs, with top of the line parts. Not wanting to waste money on shiny toys isn't the same as being poor. Some like the upgradeability, some the better performance for a significantly lower price, some don't want to throw away perfectly good hardware that's sufficient for their needs. There are Hackintoshes with 14900k or 7950X and 6950XT, lots of RAM and SSD, can you build one of these without a job? I get not liking Hackintoshes, everyone decides for themselves. But why shit on people who made a different choice? Your comments only show you're an Apple fanboy who has nothing better to do than throw 12 year old level insults at people who haven't done anything bad to you.
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the fact it's an optiplex just makes the insult so much sweeter
Not really, Optiplex is like 100 times larger. It's like comparing an e-scooter and a Chevy Bolt... Chevy is better. Duh.
That M2 graphics score at the ends was very pleasing btw. I always wanted to make my own hackintosh, however, I don't quite need it yet, but I just now it'll be all fun once I need it and get to make it lol
Yes, I was really pleased with it!
Haha, go for it, even just a cheaper one like this - it’s very fun.
Good setup, except there’s one dealbreaker. It’s not space gray XD
Thanks!
Haha - that'd be great.
Well, he can color match some paint in Home Depot.
@@zoldpingvin3078 That would be hilarious :D
I like the angry finder guy
Yeah he's HAD ENOUGH!
I was rebelling over 30 years ago building hackintosh with original apple hardware. Cheapest way was to get boards from an upgraded mac and put in pc cases and modify video hardware to work with standard monitors.
That’s fantastic, I like the sound of that!
I'm confused, why did you need to move it to a PC case, and why did you have to modify anything?
@@Pawel-rv1ek because he bought naked (caseless) used mac motherboard, and you have to modify it because it doesn't work just like that without apple's monitor
This was one of the best high level overviews I’ve watched. Will explore your channel now to see if you did any step by step or demo.
You’re too kind, thanks for watching!
Congratulations, Welcome to Opencore.
Thanks!
I adore it.
Great video! Reignites my interest in building a Hackintosh in 2023/24
I’m glad to hear it!
Thank you for watching. :-)
I've upgraded the SSD in my 2014 Macbook Pro Retina 15" (Purchased in 2015). I'm also on my third battery. Original, Apple Replacement, and the last one I replaced myself when I did the SSD ( and cleaned up the insides/repasted the chip).
I loathe Apple but love their Macbooks and OS X is my jam. I refuse to be flogged with their pricing scheme though. I'll make this last as long as I can and learn how to use Hackintosh on a fresher refurbished unit with respectable specs.
Yep, i’m with ya.
Currently dailying a 2012 MacBook Air, and will never buy a new machine again. Someone else has to pay the apple tax first.. 😂
Did you get messages working on it?
I currently have nobody to test with!... The App Store and iCloud is working though.
The problem is hackintosh is now a dead end as at some point apple will simply stop supporting intel processors.
Yep, it’s a painful realisation.. 💀
Hackers: really digga 😅
Some point VERY soon. they aren't selling intel machines anymore if i'm not mistaken
A great alternative to the overpriced Macs! Are you limited to using an earlier Intel based OS X?
Thanks!
Yes, unfortunately we can only use intel builds of macOS in these situations.
@@QuinsTechCorner I'm sure one day, someone will work around it.
@@kevinhanley6462 I really hope so.
Maybe in the future, if ARM-based machines become more common, someone will figure it out.
@@QuinsTechCorner It's likely you'll still be able to use an Intel CPU as they're so versatile, but a virtual environment will be needed.
I am interest in seeing if it is practical to convert my Dell 8940 to a Hacintosh. I have a 3.8 ghz 10 th gen I7, a 2Tb nmve SSD drive, and a RTX 2070 Super with 8Gb of vram. It runs Geekbench 20 percent faster than with my IMac Pro. How hard is a dual boot machine?
I used to Hackintosh but you can't edit on a battery at full speed on a Hackintosh. I don't know if anyone will pull it off with Qualcomm's next chip but if that happens I'd try it again.
Sounds frustrating, I have rarely done a laptop hackintosh - desktop power management seems OK so far.
I built a Hackintosh 8 years ago. There were always lots of little things that just never worked. Every system update held the potential for disaster. Figuring out the settings for all the various bits of hardware was a nightmare. the question for me was: Do I want to endlessly fiddle with system stuff, or do I want to work?
You get what you pay for.
Interesting take.
For me, I won’t be fiddling - one day I’ll they it to sonoma and just leave it, and I’ll clone my boot drive so I have an easy backup should it go wrong.
I feel like with Apple in 2023, you don’t get what you pay for - $300 for 8GB of RAM is absurd.
That said, if I did have the money to configure a modern mac to my liking, I would.
And hackintosh days are numbered.
@lupitheyorkie Where did you get that number from?
@lupitheyorkie It's not the case though.
Yep, me too, it was painful & bit I the bullet years ago. My main current macs are a mini M1 base model & it’s great, I got it second hand a couple of years ago. Whilst more internal storage would be nice, I just use an external SSD. 8gb is fine too, the only time I’ve had issue was loading large Kontakt libraries, so it does have limitations. I also run parallels with ARM win 11, and this works well enough for compiling win apps, but would benefit from 16gb I think. I also have an Intel 2017 Intel MacBook i7 15" which was cheap. I like to have a dual boot system for windows sessions, working away, gaming etc… & it’s a very nice fast machine and the fan doesn’t get as noisy as earlier MacBooks I’ve had.
I will never go back down the hackintosh route again, as you say there’s always something that doesn’t work properly like waking from sleep etc…
Absolutely brilliant
Thanks very much!!
I picked two of these up from the trash , with i5 9500 cpu's . Pretty snappy computers
What a fantastic find!!!
where can i find that golden trash can at?
@@baremetaltechtv Keep your eyes pealed.
Local recycling centres, eBay, gumtree, marketplace, schools etc.
@@QuinsTechCorner my local recycling centers want to profit off anything that has any life left, deals are terrible for the ones that actually bother to sell anything. Either they scrap totally for materials, or they are refurbing the product themselves and selling for more than its worth. Gumtree is AUS, so thats a bust. ebay leaves me paying more than its really worth for a 15 year old machine. and school dumpsters are usually filled with.... trash.
@@baremetaltechtv That sucks so much :-(
Nitpick: you need to disable VT-d in the BIOS, not virtualization. VT-x needs to be enabled.
Thanks for picking that up. :-)
I can't wait for the day when a RasPi can run Mac OS.
That would be amazing!
Hmmm, challenge accepted. I just got a Pi 5 with 8GB and I’m very impressed. You didn’t say run Mac OS directly or in a VM. Gonna try after work.
@@kaptainkaos1202 I think, at this stage, that would be almost impossible. This is running on the bare metal, directly, via OpenCore (and using an intel build of macOS). I'd be really keen to hear how it goes for you, keep me posted!
@@kaptainkaos1202let me know what happens
can you please give the specific details about the asrock rx 570 graphics card . What Phantom Gaming series are you using here???? is it PGX or PGD or phantom Gaming U. I am looking for asrock rx 570 but cant find anywhere online .
Hi,
Basically any RX570 card should work, so long as you can power it with PCI power.
'$350' Hackintosh, installs another $200 worth of hardware. I'd rather buy a $500 M2 Mac Mini and save myself the head ache... oh well, guess it just isn't for me. Happy tinkerin' to those that decide to go this route.
I run a 8700k 32gb hackinhtosh since 2021. It is a beast for software development
Sounds great!
What kind of software are you making with it?
besides the nightmare of installing mac os onto a bootable drive I would totally do this
It's actually not that bad if you have a spare day to take your time!
@@QuinsTechCorner Maybe I will have to give it a go must be lots of forums etc it just seem very overwhelming for someone who is not so familiar with this kind of thing
Great video and based on this and a failed iMac it inspired me to go down the Hackintosh route. I purchased the same Dell machine and GPU. Followed the OpenCore instructions to the letter BUT I cannot get the GPU recognised when trying to install into the machine. Did you use a specific Kext, AML and modification in the config.plist and if so, would you share that info as I have been sat for 4 days trying to sort the issue. Any help give will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Hey, If you’ve got the exact same hardware I have here, it can definitely work.
Feel free to join our community discord here: discord.gg/gXayHTUWuJ. and I can give you a hand.
I do apologise though, I might be slow to reply over the next few days (Christmas shenanigans).
cheers.
@@QuinsTechCorner Thank you, the invite has been accepted. Hardware is the same, Dellt3630, 32GBRam, i7 8700, RX570 8GB and build instructions from Opencore followed explicitly. OSX boots if I use the internal GPU but black screens at the end of the script run when using the rx570 even though this is accepted by windows. Frustrating to say the least
@@QuinsTechCorner Thank you so much for the offer, I don't really know how but after many iterations of the alm and kext folder contents, I have it working with Sanoma and currently transferring my apps and docs using Migration Assistant. Your video gave me the inspiration to try and get a decent spec Mac worknig
@@tatetaylor-baytreemm3210 I hope you manage to get it working - it can be frustrating at times.
It was a challenge but after a few re-reads of the opencore guide and double checking everything I have it working as a 2019 iMac@@QuinsTechCorner
fantastic - am inspired to give this a go
thank you
I’m glad!
Good luck!!!
I have a xeon e5 2690 v3 desktop setup that has been laying around since i bought laptop (i don't really like using desktop pc unless it was so necessary it was tiring to me) but i don't know where to start in order to properly install and condigure hackintosh i tried few times before but eventually come across issues and gave up
This is the ultimate guide: dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Install-Guide/
I paid $350 for a 2019 27" iMac (and then spent more upgrading to i9, adding 64GB ram, a 2TB NVME and 4TB SATA SSD.. bring it up closer to $1000 all in). If you are just going to stick with 8th/9th gen Intel, I think this is the better option if you don't have a decent monitor already. Had I not already done that, I'd pick up a 12th or 13th gen Intel CPU and an AMD GPU and build something that way.
That’s a great idea!!
Nice findZ
0:16 is it using Morse code to ask for help?
YES!
You’re the first person to notice. It’s just saying “SOS”.
Well spotted, mate!🤩
Interesting, but the point of the Mac mini M1 is that it is absolutely quiet while crunching anything you throw at it. Not so this machine.
This machine is near-silent, but I must admit when under heavy load you can hear the fans. Intel machines just can’t match the power efficiency (and therefore lower temperatures) of Apple silicon. BUT we can swap the fans out to make it even quieter. :-)
did you use aftermarket keyboard and mouse like logitech mx master or apple keyboard and mouse?
I used both a logitech keyboard and mouse. :-)
Pretty much anything will work.
This has inspired me. Anyone know if an AMD RX 550 would be compatible with this setup?
I’m really glad!
Yes, I see no reason why not! The RX550 is a Polaris card, same as my RX570.
Feel free to join our discord if you want to chat about your ideas with likeminded folks!
discord.gg/bj5CNnHuNH
So... AU$350 PLUS a drive and discrete GPU? Closer to AU$600 - which, don't get me wrong, is still much cheaper than a brand new Mac Mini, but given the performance is between a 2018 mini and a 2020 mini means the price comparison should be between this second-hand device and the second-hand minis... and that's a much lower differential.
It’s nowhere near 600.
The machine was $350, the drive and card I bought second hand for maybe $30-$50 all together.
It took a while but good deals come up. :-)
@@QuinsTechCornerTrue, and fair point. But you're still comparing AU$400 plus effort to build and maintain to a 2018 mini at ~$600 or a 2020 mini at ~$800. Not everyone will view the Hackintosh as a clear winner. Cheers!
considering this build versus using the asus z790-v board with i9-10700k I have for sonoma. just like to run the latest macOS. not doing nothing major just hate windows. apple 21.5" too small and 3k+ for larger imac rumored for 2025 it's a bit much. I've had three imac 27' prior before apple doubled it's pricing. they don't seem to last very long in my opinion.
Interesting!
The 10700k is roughly 10% faster than the CPU I have in this machine, so you'll have no issues with performance.
A word of caution though, these hackintosh projects are not going to be great for long-term. Apple will eventually (soon) stop building macOS for Intel, and when that happens we'll no longer be able to get up-to-date versions of macOS unless we actually have a real mac.
I do agree it's pretty upsetting the way the pricing structures have been going in recent years. I love the hardware, but no longer buy anything from Apple due to this, and issues with anti-consumer policies/design.
lmao thats crazy dude installed windows 10 1511 from 2015
Yep 😎
It’s what I had to hand hahahahahahahah
great system. i have built many hacks over the years. currently on an x99 12 core xeon, rx570. while not the fastest is more than enough. dual ssd, dual boot as i have ubuntu also.
Thanks!
That sounds great, a dual boot with linux is very cool too.
u could use a portable windows 10 for configuring opencore and setting up the efi folder without installing win 10 actually on hardware
Great tip!!
Is there any chance you would be able to upload the files as I have an identical dell precision 3630
I can.
It’s bad for learning, but I’m happy to help.
How can I contact you?
@@QuinsTechCorner I can join your discord server
But I managed to create it myself reading messages from your discord so your right I learnt more from building it
@@ahiyanali7231 Oh that's great, I'm so glad!
I’m a Linux person, and tried Mac a couple of times. I bought an old MacBook Pro from 2012 and use it as my main laptop (NOT my main computer). I just got Monterrey running on it, even being “incompatible”. This is what s*cks with Apple.
Thanks for your comment.
Glad to hear you’re using that machine as your main one, pretty cool!!
I buy tomorrow gaming Laptop and Install Linux. I don't need Hackintosh and Windows for Work or Playing Games
Why to hate? I have shares from Microsoft and also from Apple 🚀
Zero hate towards anyone, but I really dislike Windows.
Enjoy your shares, hope they work out for you!!
Apple silicon machines are smaller. silent and look way better. Plus perform flawlessly.
Not everyone has over $1000 to drop on a baseline apple silicon machine that has 8GB of RAM forever.
I certainly can’t afford to.
@@QuinsTechCorner your hackintosh is secondhand so buy a secondhand Mac.
@@mikepxg6406 I can’t afford one.
The whole point of this is that it was ultra-budget, and can be upgraded heavily.
@@QuinsTechCorner Move back to UK cheaper here......
@@mikepxg6406 Nahhhh can’t be doing that, me Mrs doesn’t have permanent residency there
not fully funtional is a down side what you need and what someone else needs are not the same and therefor your system does not kill any mac system in this case but interesting enough it does function how ever i might also point out all intel macs and can run windows natively either full on or via boot camp and can also run many other OS's Apple Silicon is stuck with VMS to run windows now but not a bad thing they can still run other OS's as well with out the need for a VM the list goes on , interesting video tho
Thanks for watching, interesting insights. 💡
These hackintoshes work better when you have them running in a passthru configured VM on Linux via QEMU, IMO. You still end up using OpenCore, but by just reserving 1 CPU core and the minimum amount of RAM on something like Fluxbox or IceWM for the host OS, you get so much more. You can set up cheaper mechanical drives or SATA SSD's as storage on the host OS for network storage useable to any PC on your network, you get snapshots and backups of your Mac OS in case anything should go awry with your hackintosh configuration or if an OS update borks anything. OpenCore has allowed hackintosh to come a long way from what hackintoshes were before OpenCore existed, in terms of stability and viability, but the potential for things to just bork still exists, even in an actual Mac, so I still like to take precaution.
Very interesting, I’ll look into it!
@@QuinsTechCorner yup it's called a VFIO hypervisor hackintosh.
Can i run that through VMWare on Win 10?
The thing not many take notice of is this. For the price of one single Apple workstation, with $350-700 ,you have at least three workstations and three servers, multiple backup drives, and still not spend as much.
This is only worth it you only need macOS for some apps, if you use macOS all the time then a bare metal install is better. Also it will be awfully slow without GPU passthrough. For Hackintosh configuration simply store it in two places, Hackintosh update problems are rare nowadays. If you're worried about it breaking just make a backup before updating.
Pity, looks like you still need (or know someone) that has an Apple account to download the OS to stick on the USB. Unless you can find it out there on the net somewhere. Do you need a Mac to download or is the login to get the image good enough?
Ah, maybe I shouldn’t have skipped over the USB build process so quickly. There’s a tool for windows and mac that will download macOS’s recovery environment for you. Check out the opencore guide to see how!
Works really well.
Well Done Sir!!
New Sub, Detroit Mich, US
You’re too kind, thank you!
@@QuinsTechCorner I can't ever get this to work lol.
Been trying for well over a Decade. I've always just went back to Theming Linux instead lol
Hi bro, I came across this tutorial and love how it is built. Can you help me on my dell OptiPlex 7040 with intel i5-6500 in build Graphic I try all my effects no way Please help me?
Hi, are you using open core?
If so, did you make sure to include a kext for your graphics?
I used balenaEtcher for a bootable USB EFI FILE
I hate Windows because it sucks, but I can afford one.
I love MacOS because it's great, but I can't afford a Mac.
*uses the system he hates to build a janky Mac clone that's going to be an endless source of compatibility issues going forward*
Yep. Apple fanboi logic in action.
I love u bb
what about powerdraw?
That’s definitely where this machine does worse than a mac mini. I estimate this to draw about 350W when running moderate tasks.
Off to see if one can do OpenCore in VirtualBox or Hyper-V. Instead of dedicated HW, just a VM on my workstation...
Keep me posted!
It would be helpful if you translate Australian roubles into US dollars or UK pounds.
About £185.
But why do people want so badly to install Mac OS that you can't install anything else on, besides Apple software etc. I mean I have a 2020 iMac 27" %700xt 16gb system, I run both Windows and Mac Os on it. But once Apple drops Intel support, we can kiss Bootcamp goodbye.
People can’t afford macs, this is why we resort to installing on unofficial hardware. 😭
As for intel support, yep - only a matter of time 😭😭😭
Sounds like your problem is not using apple silicon...... intel is hot garbage comparatively
there are many Linux alternatives to mac and windows, it takes a bit of re-education to achieve good results.
I used Linux mint for a couple of years, and loved it, but the apps I need to run are just now available :-(
Don't waste time on Hackintosh. A lot of bugs/headach/non-booting/system crash on it . Just go to buy a cheaper pre-own real Mac, like MacBook Pro, iMac or Mac mini, which just rang $200-$500
This machine had given me nothing but stability. It was very easy to set up, and gives me the performance of low end apple silicon for $300AU.
This level of performance from a real max costs about $900AU in the used market.
show me on this doll where Windows has touched you
EVERYWHERE! 😭😭😭😭
As someone who has used a hackintosh for about 3 years, it's not the best experience, any update can just screw your machine, and things can even just break randomly after a reboot
if you were to get a Mac, I'd recommend only upgrading the RAM, getting the 10GB Ethernet option on the Mac mini, and building a NAS is a much better, and cheaper alternative from apple's ludicrous prices for storage, I can get behind their RAM prices, since it's built into the SOC, so it's costly for them as well, but their storage prices are just absurd.
Good luck with your hackintosh mate, hope nothing bad happens to it, and it's as reliable as a Mac can be!
Good take. The storage is definitely the worst priced upgrade.
I run a 2009 mac mini as a super basic NAS (dual 4TB drives) which works quite well.
Thanks for the well wishes, fingers crossed.
An external NVMe SSD is better than a NAS, it's as fast and convient as internal storage, while still being many times cheaper than Apple storage configurations.
Due to numerous updates, hackintosh isn't practical anymore.
Yeah it’s a tough one… I don’t expect this machine to live more than a few years in this state, but it’s a compromise I’m willing to make for the time being, while I can’t afford a real mac.
That's not true at all. What updates are you talking about? Hackintosh is easier than ever.
So, NOT $350 then 🤣
AGGABBAGAGAGGAABBA.
Thanks for the engagement on the vid, helps.
No problem 😁@@QuinsTechCorner
The iGPU on it works, the only thing you need to add is the SSD.
@@null-nl5su Yep, this one in particular was like $10-$20 AU used.
And the $350 is not $350USD, it's AUD, so $236 AU. 🙂
Where did you find iso 😢
The opencore guide includes a link to a tool that downloads the macOS recovery environment automatically!
i just wish apple wouldn‘t BOTTLENECK their old macs just because there isn‘t a battery present. THAT pisses me off.
I had no idea this was a thing!!
@@QuinsTechCorner You poor sweet summer child….
@@EvexiansVideoworks 😂
Just get a new battery.
@@mikepxg6406 Yeah. But the system wont recognize it.
Trouble is - its about 5 times taller, its not stable, can't upgrade the OP system with out more tinkering, more space required, heavier, runs hotter and its ugly .... O' yeh - it takes longer to boot
It’s not for everyone.
Personally I’ll swallow the extra size and 5-10 second boot time.
I must say though, upgrading OS and stability is absolutely fantastic with open core, a luxury that chameleon and other legacy bootloaders didn’t afford us.
Haters complain about Mac Prices....cuz they're not cheap like a Tesla or Rivian....
U wot m8.
Good where does it outperforms the MAC? : ).... else no point
I can’t say “the mac”, but it outperforms the M2 Mac Mini significantly in all areas except CPU performance, for many hundreds less. :-)
@@QuinsTechCornerlike what? If not cpu ?
@@atta1798 Everything else.
More storage for less money, more RAM for less, much faster GPU.
@@QuinsTechCorner Can you build a Hackintosh with a AMD ryzen 9 7900? and a ASUS mini motherboard?
@@atta1798 Technically that should be possible, yes!
AMD hackintosh is a bit tricky, n out everything will work perfectly but I’ve done it in the past with a ryzen 5. :-)
If you hate Windows, why are you using it for games? Use Linux. I hate Apple and I don't use their products. I don't like to be limited. And I don't use Linux because they made a mess with a billion distros people made. Apple is good for productivity programs, Windows for gaming and Linux could be good at both if they didn't make a billion distros and focused developers on 3 distros from standard, professional, and server versions. 4 version could be Linux on ARM. Something I wish Windows would do for more than 10 years. And probably but sadly only Apple will succeed first.
I used linux for gaming for quite a long time, but the translation layer just isn’t perfect for many of the games I play.
I also have a weird relationship with apple.. I hate them as a company but enjoy the products and software.
saying “they made a billion distros” makes you sound silly. they’re almost all based off of arch or debian/ubuntu. you act as if “linux” is a company. it’s just based off the linux kernel.
Mint, Arch Linux, Debian/Ubuntu… solved your billion distro problem.
Man shut up.
I dual boot windows for games and macOS for productivity
This is so dumb. I have NEVER used some bench tests nor do they offer REAL performance proof. One person runs DAW with 36 tracks going, and someone else uses the same DAW with 12 plug ins, and bench testing does not account for anything. So what is the PRICE of the Mac over the $350 PC????? Does that price offset the extra 150 watts per year?NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ABBABAGAGAGAGAGAGA OOOOOOONGA BOOOIIIINGA.
Merry christmas man, thanks for the engagement on my video.
@@QuinsTechCorner blah blah blah..look who has to resort to 4th grade deflection...awwww Did a few of us hurt the Apple baby's feelings..??whhaaaaaaaaaaaaa...you're welcome
@@michaels8607 Genuinely helps the engagement on my video, I appreciate it. ❤️🎄🎅
@@michaels8607 and there’s nothing to deflect, I’m not interested in discussing with you.
For the record, I literally despise apple.
@@QuinsTechCorner What a complete fraud and such a contradiction you are. If you have nothing to discuss with me than why were you suggesting a $5 bet,and responding to me at all????If you stood on that you would have ignored me in the first place. You cannot even make up your mind nor even keep a position. Your helmet and chair in the corner awaits,and Mommy needs her computer back.I cannot even openly delve any deeper because you will run to YT and cry that I am bothering the little princess...hehehehehe...Oops..let me finish watching this movie, since you're not 'discussing with me'...
Linux has better Apps than you think. Many simply don't have the interest or wherewithal to learn about them. Interestingly enough MacOS is build on the same Unix file structure as Linux.
Thanks for your comments folks!
Yeah it’s a tough one. Don’t get me wrong, I adore GIMP, and there are video editing options, but they’re just not direct replacements for adobe or apple apps :-(
Its Janky and looks terrible.
@@QuinsTechCorner havent you tried photopea, its an alternative to photoshop
I haven’t!
I’ll check it out.
@@QuinsTechCorner What will you do when Hackintosh won't be an option anymore? Will you join us iSheeps?
Windows 11 = Nope!
Linux Mint or ZorinOS = Yeah baby!
Mac = I'd rather buy a used car!
Mint is a beautiful OS. I just can’t run the programs I need to on there.
Heck yeah, I love macOS and used cars, so that’s a win 😎😎
I don't get the idea of recommending Mint to everyone.
It looks like outdated crap, is based on Ubuntu, I believe it lacks recent kernels and packages.
ZorinOS another Ubuntu fork, how many frankensteins do we need in the Linux world?
Just get Fedora or Arch.
But why so much effort to use a garbage OS?
It doesn't kill shit.
Has much worse CPU, looks like crap, is loud, uses more power etc.
Bad bait but 2/10 for trying.
Thanks for the engagement on my video, it really helps to boost my stats. 😎
@@QuinsTechCorner No problem, gave you dislike to help with that too. 😇
@@Pawel-rv1ek Legitimately does help. An interaction, like or dislike, increases the chances of this video being shown in someone's feed.
Legend.
Yeah that’s why I am happy to help, especially if it doesn’t cost me anything. ❤️🐣
Who cares about power on the desktop? Even if you have very expensive electricity you'll still save more if you don't buy a Mac.
mac soyboy
Ooga booga bunga
Hackintoshers are the soyboys before finding job. 😁
@@Pawel-rv1ek yes
@@Pawel-rv1ek Some Hackintoshes are more expensive than real Macs, with top of the line parts. Not wanting to waste money on shiny toys isn't the same as being poor. Some like the upgradeability, some the better performance for a significantly lower price, some don't want to throw away perfectly good hardware that's sufficient for their needs. There are Hackintoshes with 14900k or 7950X and 6950XT, lots of RAM and SSD, can you build one of these without a job? I get not liking Hackintoshes, everyone decides for themselves. But why shit on people who made a different choice? Your comments only show you're an Apple fanboy who has nothing better to do than throw 12 year old level insults at people who haven't done anything bad to you.