Eddie Glaude: We Must Confront The Ugliness Of Who We Are | MSNBC
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- Christopher Rufo and Eddie Glaude Jr. continue the back-and-forth discussion on critical race theory.
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Eddie Glaude: We Must Confront The Ugliness Of Who We Are | MSNBC
Joe always interrupting train of thought. Why have them on if you don't give EITHER guest time to flesh out their arguments. Waste of time.
Joe talks way way too much 🤫
Mika, "We just want the truth." You can handle the truth. Why do I keep watching this show? Joe, do some research for God's sake.
LOL. Joe hasn't had a real job since he was the kid on the bridge in the Deliverence movie.
Mika and Plastic face Katy K. K. white rage against black women.
He’s ignorant.
Bc their vid titles are pure click bait.
But no one talks about 400 years of books being published saying blks were inferior etc? The double standards
Nobody is reading or even publishing those books.
@@charlesvan13 great at deflecting but no answer? Those books are being read and are available in most graduate libraries.
Edit. The topic at hand why so much white rage ( not white people in general but the theory white rage) against facts?
@@saul9050 thats called history.
you guys wanna burn books because they have the n word.
this whole ideology is aiming to erase history
huckleberry finn isnt taught as a manual for treating black people
@@saul9050
"White rage" is a fake term.
The backlash from CRT isn't from just white people.
You're not fooling anyone, when BLM riots killed 30 and caused 2 billion in damages.
A little less talking Joe, and more listening will help us all. A great interviewer lets the guest talk. He doesn't invite him/her in to be a sound board for his own agenda.
It's ok no one wants the truth, just wanna talk about it . It's not affecting him, his children or his paycheck. Have you heard what the old slave owner said, "why did it have to end we were all happy" she was talking about herself.
Teaching the facts of the discrimination against all the Americans of color clarifies much of what all Americans have lived.
you can teach what discrimination is but to teach that our country is racist because of history or that white people are guilty for being white is wrong
I agree -- but the following is the real issue, IMHO: I agree with Prof. Glaude, as Mr. Rufo applies red lipstick to the pig that is White Power. Every time Native Black Americans have tried to be self-determined there's serious backlash from those White Americans who are insecure and Republican conservatives who, like the Democratic Southern Dixiecrats of yore, put "scarlet letters" on principle, fairness and decency. The GOP is using a central tenant of their playbook, race -- Native Black Americans/NBAs, Black Lives Matter and Critical Race Theory -- as a wedge to regain power and keep NBAs in their assigned place as American's permanent bottom-caste. It's not rocket-science. One's side-eye...oops!...One's eye's must be wide-open to SEE "what's goin' on." And with a straight-face many would say Mr. Rufo needs to get his eye's examined and stop explaining away the obvious. With due respect.
@Scientific Methodologist What flavor Kool Aid are you drinking? I'd like you to speak to oppression because the victims are tired of it.
The difference between far left as opposed to far right, when you have extremism on the far left you are going to have fewer moderates and your leaders will be merely puppets
Teaching CRT to our kids is like this story of Johnny's Teacher trying to teach him a math problem with a narrative, so Johnny follows his answer with a narrative but this teacher tells Johnny he is incorrect because it doesn't fit the narrative which makes zero sense to poor Johnny : "Teacher asks lil Johnny if there were 5 birds on the power wire and if he got a gun and shot one, how many would be left. Johnny says "zero". The teacher says "that is incorrect, the answer should be four". lil Johnny says, "if I shot one with a gun, the others are going to fly away, leaving none"! America is not racist, 1776 freedom isn't free, we fight tyranny and Marxism is tyranny.. there are only up to 8000 white supremacist's in this country barley enough to oppress a basketball stadium... the truth is 1 in 10 whites and 1 in 7 blacks tested as bigots period... you cant blame us today for what happened in the past especially the fact we fought for freedom and won... our National News is rigged you should have realized that when they made you believe in career politicians
Pointing out a leaky roof does not constitute hatred of the house.
I still have no idea what leftists hope to accomplish with teaching CRT. Like, what do you actually want? What specifically needs to change that cannot be traced back to poor choices made by you or your parents?
@@jlock9085
Nobody "teaches" CRT. Some college classes DISCUSS CRT, and your question is exactly what they discuss, so I don't see a problem .
While I agree with this comment, I don’t see how it is relevant to this segment. Chris has said many times that he supports people learning about slavery and racism.
@@jlock9085 I CHALLENGE YOU TO CHANGE YOUR FIRST NAME TO SHANIQUA OR LEROY AND TRY TO OBTAIN A JOB IN CORPORATE AMERICA.
LET ME KNOW HOW SOON YOU GET CALL BACKS FOR AN INTERVIEW PLEASE.
ALSO, GOOGLE "REDLINING" AND DESCRIMINATORY MORTGAGES LENDING.
They do not want their children to know what they have done.
Most kids get along together without injecting race into everything.
@@marohan most adults get along until they find out what happened.
@@charlesislaw u are not a slave. Get out your own way.
@@marohan and you lost the election get over it
@@joshuawisdom9694 if having a guy who believes n open borders, people waiting on a 4th stimulus, crime up n every city, inflation through the roof, n who doesn't know what day of the week it is is winning, I guess I'm a Buffalo bill.
Critical race theory is simply that racism has had a serious determinative impact on our American institutions. What is the overreach?
There isn’t an overreach… CRT is another dog whistle for racist white folks
Being untrue.
if youve been to school in the last few decades you know that has already been taught
Your interpretation of reality is narrow, I hope things improve in your life.
@@hhhhippo Right.. I’m sure in your reality Jesus was a blonde haired, blue eyed white man. Christopher Columbus “discovered America”, correct? It is so amazing to me how people who have whitewashed history and accepted the LIES of their thieving, crooked, evil ancestors are always trying to preach to others about “reality”…. 🙄🤣🙄🤣
@@hhhhippo are you saying schools don't teach that racism is a key factor in all interaction.
Because that is the case
Not the overreach on both sides. That’s like their are good people on both sides.
Lol so fake
Exactly
I know, I can’t stand that ‘false equivalency’ Joe ALWAYS does🙄
The only problem i see is people of african descent being unable to communicate with each other. Give yourselves the ability to not care about what others think or say
because you are financed, organized, armed and self reliant communities and all the pain will go away.
agreed. the overreach is 100% from the left. the rejection of CRT is just common sense
Joe showing his true color.
straight up...he couldn't even barely get that stupid question out about agreeing slavery existed and still not want crt....that's not the point "on code" joe
Every since Biden got into office, I have sensed some political tension between Joe and Mika . Joe, like Bill Maher seems to be going home to his conservative white male roots almost overnight. I am disappointed to see him advocating so strongly for a return to old fashioned law and order, and a Democratic Party controlled by moderates. He seems to intentionally misunderstand that the progressives who actually got in the streets, fought against voter suppression while also voting, protested for months - highlighting the differences in policy between the parties, calling for and leading policy change and basically delivering the Dems the election, and then the climate to make the changes required in the senate, have always been for law and order. Again, he miss reads the tea leaves or is trying to drive an agenda. He uses Eric Adams
We, are not for the current system however, and will not let Joe and his kind push us backwards towed repression. We envision a better system of criminal justice, starting with the police. We are not asking for a return to failed Zero Tolerance policy, Stop and Frisk, and sub-standard policing and court systems. We want change. Joe can try to spin it like he’d like, but he does not speak for the majority of Dems. What is it that he is up to?
@@rbz5415 We have to also consider the fact that slavery was a universal human practice, back then. People of all skin complexions practiced slavery and were slaves. Slavery was so universal, it wasn't considered a sin in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. So I think the focus of CRT should be on the racist laws, hindering equal opportunity, that followed the abolishment of slavery.
Joe always shows his true colors... all the time...
@@SunofTruth and slavery is still going on today in other parts of the world, but no one cares about that.
We have to grow up as a nation. Love that.
Yes that was well said
What does that have to do with indoctrinating children to believe their skin color determines whether they are evil racists or not?
If any parent doesn't want their child to learn to critically think about any subject they are crappy parents.
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Ridiculous! It isn't critical thinking if it's rooted in hatred!
The irony is by constantly talking about the fear of their children learning about CRT, they are forcing for discussion on social media. And guess who's all over social media....children.
Streisand Effect strikes again!
Have any of you really read any of the CRT literature? It is certainly racist, and is not scholarly at all as it contains no real counter arguments; it also contains attacks on ML King's position. There is a reason for this. CRT has nefarious motives. It doesn't seek to alleviate racism; rather it seeks to switch the focus of racist hate - to white people. CRT is a paragon of hypocrisy. Go through the literature yourselves.
On a personal level, self-improvement requires honest self-examination. The same principle applies to a country. Denial is non-productive.
Big difference between self examination and indoctrination in a radical neo - marxist ideology.
It’s racist to assume because of someone’s skin color they are somehow inherently racist , how about we not talk about or teach race at all? Marxism is pure evil
Not what crt is.
@@sebastienholmes548 Yes it is. It's a neo marxist doctrine where the dialectic of class is replaced with race. It attempts to subvert the enlightenment values of rationality , reason and objectivity as forms of white supremacy. That's where the idea of "maths is racist " comes from . What would in any other era be described as parody or insanity is entertained under CRT's postmodern framework. CRT also calls for a re - distribution of wealth and confiscation of private property to bring about equity ( equal outcomes ) . The inheritance of wealth and private property are seen as perpetuating white supremacy. An intervention that requires stripping people of their wealth and private property is textbook communism.
Please. CRT consists of bullies and only bullies. Talk about denial.
Glaude doesn’t make any compelling arguments for CRT - his reasoning is 100% emotional. He talks about the need to hear uncomfortable truths - physician: heal thyself. Rufo overcomes and perseveres.
The truth needs to be told and dealt with -- the Germans do it. Grow up America, you're living with a pack of lies. Your racism is destroying your country.
@@loriannrichardson7644 yes, every German must read mein kampf to understand. Same thinking with the racist tenants of crt
When Edie said this is not a good faith argument he was talking about the whole opposition to CRT not just Ruffo although I an sure he has heard Ruffos talking points previously.
And Mr. Rufo bogus/argument argument was?
This is true
People against CRT are People that just want to remain racist in their ideology PERIOD.
It is a fantom argument to start with. So the true meaning is the words used to describe it.
White Americans have a serious problem in tackling racism within their own communities. So they love to blame other people for there own shortcomings. A fatal flaw that is soon catching up. And using ignorance as a deflection is not going to change an inevitable ending!
Joe eating up air time as usual. I would like this show better if Newt Jr. wasn't part of it.
Thought I was the only one who felt this way. If they could only get him to let the guest talk more it would help.
It takes serious self-reflection and humans simply can't face their ugly selves.
It's over. Those people are dead and gone.
People self reflect all the time. It's America that seems to completely lack that trait. I'm wagering it's the incessant need to praise yourselves that the world has witnessed over decades. That's not normal. I've never seen any other country that obsessed with praising themselves. You people have an addiction
@@David..832 I totally agree. I don't feel guilty about anything someone did 400 years ago. There's enough success to go around for everyone in America TODAY!
@@suivatco130 sounds more like a dictatorship complex to me
@@anonymoususer4376 Last jobsite I was on, people got paid, hired, and fired based on ability and/or being on time, nothing else matters to these businesses.
Why is it that one group can cry OUTRAGE!!! at the smallest feeling of injustice but keep telling others that it's gonna take time for their great injustices to even be acknowledged peacefully.
That whole "we have a long way to go" and "it's gonna take time" argument is infuriating. It's just a weak excuse to maintain the status quo.
For the cheap seats. IT'S NOT TAUGHT AT THE LOWER LEVELS OF EDUCATION.
It's a load of bollocks
@@bizzjoe Mmmmm a system of laws based on the enslavement of people. Yes, I would agree. And then claim, to be a Nation of "Free Men". According to the so called Founders.
@Ronald Stanley mmmmmm No. Because of the enormous contributions of my ancestors, I am going to stay and help make the aspirations that's stated in the Founding Documents come true.
@Ronald Stanley Political discord is part of a Democracy. Or did you forgot that part of your Civics class.
@Ronald Stanley And let you have everything we all work so hard for. Dream on
I'm not sure what "over-reach" means in this context. How can it be over-reach to teach the truth, finally?
@@Brochacho617 exactly change history and teach falsehood as reality
Teach math to block students if they are behind in math. Don’t lead blacks away from education into racial discrimination agenda
Randy Simons But you do know the “history” we have been taught has already been altered.
The far left has so much Denialism. They think nobody knew about Slavery, Civil War, Jim Crow, and Civil Rights Movement or that Racism is bad before 2020. You guys have strong case of Progressophobia.
@@Lone432345 that's odd, I don't remember being taught about jim crow, or the black wall street massacre🤔
I'm reading Glaude's book, "Begin Again" right now. Great job.
Awesome book
@@keishapuryear8180 indeed! And I love me some James Baldwin, too!
@@kiciacoldspring1621 I'm trying to fit in some African American authors for my 17 yr old rising senior before she leaves for college but honestly with her rigorous curriculum and sport I'm having a hard time
@@keishapuryear8180 I was trying to find it but I couldn't but there was a book that just came out by the Crunk Feminist Collective (And their anthology by the same same is EVERYTHING!). I Can't seem to find it right now. But I do recommend that anthology and since it's full of essays and shorter works it might be a good pick for your daughter too. Also, the Norton Anthology of African-American literature (vol 1 and 2) is a great place to get familiar with Black literature and philosophy. Audible also has a nice selection of our titles--good to listening to on the go.
@@kiciacoldspring1621 awesome thank you for sharing I will look for them.
I am German. Reflecting our history and our presence confronts us with our guilt and our responsibility. And our responsibility is the foundation of our future.
To bad America is not like that. We have a mainstream political party holding us back. SMH
Do you take responsibility for your father's sins?
If your own father did something wrong in his life, perhaps committed a crime - do you wear the blame for those decisions?
If you think you are, then you're committing the same collectivism mistake that Germany made in the 30's and 40's.
If you don't believe you're responsible for your fathers sins, then you believe in individual responsibility.
I am not responsible for anything because of my skin color, I am responsible for my actions as an individual. I hold that to be true for all people of all skin colors.
@@tysonclarke012 I'm worried about the ignorance involved in your comment to this person. The reason behind the German sense of guilt is how easily they were tricked. How easy it was to point the finger at other people and blame them for all the issues. Exactly like today when instead of striving to teach real history people are trying to continue to teach lies and take away the vote from the people they don't want to hear. The past of America is happening again because of its fear of feeling the guilt of its past. The more Germany continues to recognise its true history the freer it is to continue to grow from strength to strength. There is nothing quite like the German ingenuity, practicality and hard work ethic. They are a truly strong nation, not al all crippled by acknowledging their past. They *are* the defecto leaders in Europe because are humble enough to listen and not even want to take the role.
America could be great, but like a child, it doesn't want to hear about bills and responsibility. America leads because of its size not because of its characteristics. America leads because of its military might. But America still hasn't had a female president and it lectures the Arab world about female equality? Come on! America had a brown president and the government ground to a halt! Literally had one side saying we don't care what he proposes, we will never agree to ANYTHING this brown man says. Because America doesn't know the truth of its history, because it doesn't want to feel bad. It is going to remain the leader because it is the biggest as opposed to because it is the best. The sad part is, people like you are ok with that. And you probably don't even understand why that is sad.
We reflect on our history in the US. And personal responsibility is crucial for how one determines what one must do to help improve the circumstances one is born into. I do not understand why guilt for other people's actions is necessary. Perhaps you can further educate me on this. If someone is not actively causing harm, they have a right to sit by and do nothing so long as they stay out of the way. The least a person should do is take responsibility for their own actions. The extra step, which should not be required though is highly commendable, is to take responsibility for others actions.
We have been teaching about the transatlantic slave trade, slavery, the civil war, reconstruction era, and the civil rights movements of the 60s for decades, well before the present version of CRT. I remember in detail learning about these and doing assignments and tests on them. They are in my textbooks. Additionally, things like Black History Month and MLK Day ensure that our schools do at least discuss US events of slavery and racism and at least acknowledge contributions of Black Americans through out our nation's history, annually (obviously this does not imply we are "done". we still certainly have a ways to go to continue to improve and hopefully eliminate all prejudice). CRT is not necessary to teach history nor "how to feel about" historical or present events (to be honest I don't care how one feels about historical events, only that they not repeat historical atrocities). Encouraging people to hate themselves as a result of the actions of people who happened to look like them from decades ago is hardly productive. Schools should teach the facts as they stand and encourage love and support for one another. Grade school CRT curriculums are teaching ideological dogma about how one should feel about their skin color due to historical ties to perpetrators of historical atrocities. Remove these sorts of ideologies and CRT has potential.
From my perspective, many of the US's problems stem from an inconsistency in public education within and across states in numerous aspects of history and STEM. The public education I got was literally not the same as the one the kid in the zip code next to me got.
Governments want to keep us stupid and in fighting.
I admit, I do not know a lot about German history (please feel free to educate me on this. it's always good to learn from one another), but I often see Germans making this equivalence of how they handle the Holocaust to how Americans handle our history of racism and slavery. Part of the issue here in the US is that some conflate slavery with racism. In Germany, I imagine, anti-Semitism is conflated with the Holocaust. The implications are that slavery is abolished and the Holocaust is over, therefore racism and anti-Semitism are done, which, many agree is false. Issues such as racism and anti-Semitism extend both prior and after these events. We need to accurately understand how the problems of past events and mitigation of those events there after, might still be impacting current society and how to continue to correct any existing problems from those events and actions. CRT is trying to do this, but comes to a number of conclusions I disagree with such as the statement that capitalism needs to end and individual rights are not top priority in obtaining racial justice. Of course capitalism has problems, but the bulk of which are irrespective of racism. And individual rights and freedoms should be the number one goal of any reformation.
Opposition to CRT is not the same as opposition to learning the good, bad, and ugly about how our history.
@@kenyattamiles3226 many Americans are reflective of history. both parties are holding us back. both are literally in the way of a true democracy. we are a republic NOT a democracy. politicians on both sides lie to use saying that voting to give our power away is democracy. we are forced to either abdicate (by voting) any legislative power to BS representatives who claim to care about us or abdicate (by abstaining) any power at all.
representatives from both parties perpetuate the same rhetoric of "us vs them", encouraging the continued divisions instead of honestly trying to unite both "sides" and ALL types of Americans.
the only "them vs us", if at all, should be the politicians vs the people.
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it more than a little confounding, given everything everyone now knows about the siege of January 6 (seven months ago), that the facts of what happened is still the main issue rather than what is being done about it? Does anyone else besides me find it more than a little suspicious that one of the two parties is _openly, shamelessly_ trying to block any effort to do anything about it?
There will be times when a nation will have to face an existential crisis. It’s a rare situation when compared to anyone’s lifetime though; so it’s not exactly clear what to do. Or rather, it’s a scary thing to face what is actually necessary to do. Therefore, nothing _is_ done and the crisis metastasizes to the point that the empire falls completely.
@Scientific Methodologist You are partially correct. You might want to check out “Southern Strategy Nixon” on Wikipedia to get a good explanation of the details of what happened to flip the two parties with regards to the issue of race.
Good analysis, but I prefer a less cynical approach. American exceptionalism is rooted in these sort of cliff-hanger challenges. Be it luck, or divine providence, we have, often narrowly, prevailed thus far. I would hope that the government reforms itself wisely, and puts safeguards in against these subversive attacks. That being said, it gives me hope to see people engaged. Democracy is messy. Contentious. Downright inflammatory at times. If we don’t sort this and learn from it, we dont have the opportunity to improve. Let’s fight the good fight, as in 2 Timothy 3-4.
@@Elizabeth-yp8re If I read you correctly you are definitely aware of the seriousness of the situation. Where it’s different this time has to do with exactly what you eluded to about past crises. In the past, when we’ve faced some major issue, actions were actively taken - often by both sides - to correct for it. This time, however, one side is not just evading the issue, but actually trying to block attempts to confront the issue.
NO!!! you aren't the only one! To any rational person watching It was OBVIOUS what happened on that day! And those same people refused to honor the Capitol Police...........the same people who saved their raggedy lives!
Your right that the country is slowly self destruction but wrong about the culprits. The culprits are the godless, race baiting, globalists.
For me, the greatest value of this conversation is that it shows viewers that individuals can vehemently disagree with each other, present logical fact-based opposing arguments and remain civil even though emotionally invested.
While I agree with your premise (and applaud the optimism), the damage done here is that Christopher Rufo has convinced people that he is making a fact-based opposing argument. HE IS NOT!! His admitted goal has been to pervert the term of "Critical Race Theory" and weaponize it with misinformation and falsehoods. It is maddening that you cannot have a good faith discussion on the topic because of how pervasive the false/perverted the definition and understanding of ACTUAL Critical Race Theory has become.
Civil? Saying the conservative is NOT speaking "IN GOOD FAITH"? That is NOT civil!
Lol. You're on an msnbc video. The dumbest of the dumb and most ignorant and hysterical
I will never understand the reason for discussions on CRT on shows like this when CRT is a college level course for people in Law School.
Exatly. The whole argument is based on a lie.
Racebaiting and shared psychosis.
@Kandi Bishop I totally agree with you. But the average person was no idea what CRT really is. Shows like this should bring on people who have studied and/or teach CRT to spread the truth about it. CRT is a course that is not widely available on the college level but some people continue to mislead and push the narrative that it is being taught in K-12.
@NBK
No, "CRT" is not being taught in schools. Parents may object to what they see as "undue attention" to race, but nobody is "teaching CRT"
@NBK Based on your comment it is clear that you have no idea what CRT is about. To suggest that a graduate college level course is being taught in K-12 is mind blogging to me.
Discussing the effects of long-term racism in America is like getting a diagnosis for mental illness.. feels better just to know and where to concentrate your efforts..
Look to how the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission handled the changing racial dynamics in that country. Sadly, I don't think we can do that.
@@cmillholland Yep, I don't think we can either. Too many generations of frightened people feeding off of each other's fears. Republicans certainly won't do it because they fear losing power and control. Democrats won't do it because they fear welding power and being in control.
We also need a critical poor theory, sometimes alot of the race issues are also economic issues but not the same thing so they can't be bundle together.
@@JRussellDay true
I feel this so deeply. There's no way we should still be arguing voting rights!!!! Why?
We are not.
@@shanekasper4587 says the man who is comfortable!!!
@@speedymax1818 what is uncomfortable about our voting laws?
@@shanekasper4587 their not "our" voting laws! If one race has to do something different in order to vote!
@@speedymax1818 they don't that is the point. Everyone is required to do the same thing. I would love to see a interview of all the black voters that have been prevented from voting and hear their reasons why.
Mr.Joe Blow, pretending to no longer be part of the mad right, yet always parroting mad right talking points.
Critical race theory is the new excuse for the failure of African Americans in the U.S
@@jaredstevens5382 Rightttt🤣🤣🤣🤣 And you're the newest racist excuse for a human!👍🏽🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm trying to figure out why he's still on tv
@@tonytooshort is that in insult?
Even bringing on someone who has already been completely exposed on this topic
Love the truth of what Eddie Clause says, as in we won't açcept the ugliness of who we are. I know he means all of us, himself, you Joe, and me. All of us.
Not what crt is.
Eddie is the ugly one with his insecurities, hatred, and his stupidity.
That requires him to accept it on his side as well. As a minority myself, i find it tiresome that people always complain about racism, while ignoring the serious issues of our own communities.
That is how you deal with a past. You air it out and get on with the future. You don't hide stuff like that. All ot does is fester and shows up again on a destructive way...
But we have dealt with it. There's no more slavery in the United States, right?
@@marcelavargas453 Ńl there not ..it crap .but we ha bee human traffic ..look at border opp forglt left dont care they dont if kid get hurt or peopłe ałmost drown .they just want what they want ......we have drugs coming and we have bad guy trying t'o come in but it ok .who care just want that vote...
@@marcelavargas453 This is why we need education on the historicity of slavery and effects of it to this day! I encourage you do to more reading, learning and unlearning because not everything we have come to learn as truth is really true.
@Ronald Stanley This is more than airing it out. There are oppressive systems in place since the days of slavery have long passed. It requires more reading and understanding on everyone's part. It is your choice respectfully.
@@TiredofBeingBlack I already know enough about it. How much can you study it? It happened all over the world, we all know how it went. The question is how useful is studying it to such an extent? Who does it help? Does it create jobs? Does it give you a skill that you can use? Does it advance you in our career? If it doesn't, then maybe it's time to start studding something else, like math or physics. :)
Why is Joe allowing Christopher Rufo to continue to redefine critical race theory to fear monger? Please don't continue this conversation until you publicly acknowledge that critical race theory is an area of civil rights law taught ONLY in law school and NOT being taught in K-12 public schools. THEN, if you want to have a discussion of how we can improve our teaching of US history to be more accurate and honest please include some k-12 educators in the discussion.
Because Joe is a Republican con artist, and so is Mika.
Absolutely correct Nancy!! Bravo!
Yet it's taught in grade school. Ask any parent.
@@larrygarland802 BS
Well said Nancy, exactly it is only discussed in colleges & universities, the right will go from one cultural war to the next, i.e. doctor suess, potato head, cancel culture, BLM bad. When CRT eventually loses steam, they will invent another outrage, it’s culture wars they love
Thank you Christopher Rufo for pointing out the ugliness of CRT
What happened to the Native People, So called Black People, and other groups of Melaninated People wide world is real and still happening today!! A long history of committing evil acts against people with no conscious says SOMETHING!! GENETICS!!
@@latonywoods9581 historically tribalism happened to them.
Translation, Eddie to Chris:
"You're a lying ..."
Yes he is
Admiting failures from the past, can heal this country.
We need real history to be written and taught. We as a country have targeted races, sexualually exploited our children and women for capitalisam...throw religious fundimentalisam in to that group of crazies...
BRINGING UP SINS FROM THE PAST MAKES THE HEALING SLOWER.
@@mikebriganti2187 but more inclusive and longer lasting.
@@mikebriganti2187 The opposite is true.
Admition of the sins and atrocities is only part of the process. Making restitution is really what would heal the nation.
@@mikebriganti2187 no that's not how healing works.
If we don’t teach the past (history) then we are doomed to repeat it again.
Chris Durgin- So do you know how to prevent it (history) from happening again?
CRT is a theory. NOT history.
@@larrygarland802 Exactly..It is not history.
There are those who want to go back to the bad old days. They call themselves MAGA
Saying that white people are inherently racist from birth and beneficiaries of white supremacy, is not history. It’s propaganda and it’s destroying the minds of children
Vote the republican nutshow out asap!!
@Scientific Methodologist who cares. The current republicans are incompatible with our democracy. Vote them all out!!
@@johno7617 : In all those red states in between the coasts ? are you kidding me ? There are too many out there that just do NOT want the democrat / liberal alternative. Biden reminds them of that every day.
@@garycampbell1076 blue states run our economy. Red states are all bankrupt. Dem leadership is far superior. Life is great in my blue state
And what about the democrat nut show,, the defund the police brigade?
@@bizzjoe no comparison, chief. The republicans rode the train all the way to crazy town years ago
There are schools that haven't had new textbooks in over a decade.Classrooms full of mold and no AC.overworked and underpaid teachers spending their own income on school supplies.and children getting hit with "student lunch debt" but the debate over critical race theory is what's making national headlines...
Tell everyone you know to vote Democrat up and down ticket, problem solved. Now back to telling the truth to people because they deserve it.
Vote republican. The school is not supposed to raise your child. Throwing more money at the problem like 21k per pupil is solving kids who don't want to learn
@@marohan the evil wickedness in that statement...
"Prior" 1776 & 1619 moments in Time, and "Current" 2021 moments in Time = "UGLINESS OF ALL HISTORICAL TIME."
****267 Killed
*****687 injured
7 children dead
Just this past weekend in our country.
Who is in charge and responsible for ending this carnage? Where is media questioning elected officials?
@@wsoxman5375 how many native American Indians and buffalo road the plains of this country before the whites landed on the shores of this country? Whites should take their own inventory first.
Wow, that's a big step to take. Let's not forget about 1930s-1940s where we had 6 million people virtually wiped off of the map based on one psycho's mind set. And let's not forget who they were either, don't you agree?
@@gray_foxx583 wtf does that mean?
@@Manos723 Meth stop smoking
What we’ve done and what we are still doing.
What?
Disappointed that they're giving oxygen to Rufo's SELF-ADMITTED lies and deceitfulness.
What "self-admitted lies and deceitfulness"? I like to think of myself as a real Enlightenment-values, individualist, liberal (never voted Republican until this year for a local election because here in California, all the Dems were "identitarians"), and I have read quite a bit about CRT (and Critical Theory, from which it's derived) and find it illiberal. I've also heard Rufo speak several times and have never found anything he's said to be made in "bad faith" let alone what you're accusing him of. What are you referring to and why do you not want to hear Rufo's points?
@@canteluna DIRECT from Rufo's Twitter feed: "We have successfully frozen their brand-"critical race theory"-into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. We will eventually turn it toxic, as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand category."
That's an admission of intent to deceive and obfuscate, full stop.
In addition, it's presumptuous and dishonest framing on your part to accuse me of not wanting to hear his points. His points are clearly based in racist Animus and don't BEGIN to pass the smell test. I've heard them, and as a DECENT PERSON OF GOOD CONSCIENCE and reasonable intelligence, I reject them.
In addition, he and his allies continue to demonstrably misrepresent what CRT is, just as his Tweet admits is his intent, and to lie about it's supposed widespread teaching in low school grades, without documentation. Teaching children that racism exists and has persisted a long time does NOT constitute "teaching CRT".
He's a liar and a racist. Period.
Wrong crt is raciasl crap.and there going t'o teach in prk t'o 12
@@susanr1903 explain more...do share please??
Nice job Joe, Glaude, and Rufo. I'm glad you are having the conversation. I'm looking forward to the longer discussion.
Do you want discussion or change?
So even though I am a Democrat and a liberal, I find it hard to stomach how slavery is being described as almost an American institution of old rather than a Human Institution since ancient times. The most recent manifestation of slavery that we have in America is a facet of a much larger problem that humans seem to take each other as slaves whenever they can get away with it. All over the world there are slaves and the way slavery manifested in the United States was a giant machine but it appears those kind of stories have happened since Humanity began recording history and I think dealing with slavery as a global and ancient problem would be healthier than just focusing on the American facet of it. Not wanting to ignore a single edge of that facet, not wanting to diminish its horrifically nature in any way, but it is still a part of an even more horrible human trait of taking slaves whenever the advantage is there.
It Is just that the United States keeps denying its own history. Pretending to be better than it actually is. America is not uniquely evil, its just you keep going around telling yourself and everybody you meet that you're the greatest nation ever to exist. That's why everybody else takes great delight in showing you an Mirror.
@sorryNOTsorry I don't believe it is as cut-and-dry as that and I don't believe any slave has ever been made whole and might never. About going back in time and undoing the damage actual reparations don't seem possible. How can there be the price on that? It is a whole culture change and the Reformation of people's hearts because slavery still happening all over the place and fixing one single kind of slave situation doesn't fix anything. We have to fix it all.
Being uncomfortable, (should) make us WANT to change for the better.
CRT sounds like a college course. Isn't it a DIFFERENT thing to allow the *Truth* about history to be taught in K-12?
Why are people afraid of a new theory to be taught in schools, no matter at what level?
This country has made TREMENDOUS change. America is the LEAST racist place on earth.....but the white liberals won't allow it to die.
@@cultureal9544 perhaps we could teach the racial theories presented by Joseph Goebbels and A.Hitler circa 1930’s? It’s just a theory? I’m being sarcastic just FYI.
@@L3L3L3 “grave threat” 😝🤣😂 man you’ve been drinking the kool-aid via a beer bong, haven’t you?
@@Sturmavk you don't think kids are learning about how bad Hitler was? What century are you living in? Been done! Now teach kids about CRT.
Oh please! I want this all to be aired! 😎☮️🇺🇸
US history is human history, positive and negative. The truth may be uncomfortable but it is necessary.
The problem: IMPLICIT BIAS. Focus!!
Define emplicit bias and give examples.
@@jlock9085 - Unconscious prejudice.
Example 1: Hiring manager at a tech company that believes Asian and Indians are smarter. Discovered by comparing hiring by race to other similar tech companies, local demographics, city and/or state.
Example2: Two homeless women, one white, the other black have GoFundMe charity. The white woman raises $23,000. The black woman $13,000.
Example3: Your local police pull over black people 4 times more than white, which out of line with the demographic and other police stations in the area.
This in NOT intentional racism, but the more insidious nature of implicit bias, that lurks within us all.
@@Bat_Boy lol great, chasing ghost
@@Manos723 - Not so, when data evidence exists. People just need more awareness.
#2 is my personal example. I’m involved in helping the homeless, and found myself watching many homeless videos. Which ones? I was unconsciously picking female, specifically white female. This was an eye opener for me. I have corrected my behavior, and watch them without bias to gender or race.
OH BY THE WAY JOE --- WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT ONGOING "DISCUSSION" ?? Oh what --- Eddie did not want a Part 2? Part 3? Oh okay. Thanks for clearing that up. Thanks MSNBC!
A dialogue on race can be had but if any group starts with lecture to people that they are bad people then it will be hard to get them to listen.
Definitely. And of course that goes both ways - and for everything else. (like most of what is discussed in here)
Thats not what CRT is though.
“That’s not what aboutism, it’s the truth”. Isn’t that what they all say?
Learning about out past isn't about pointing fingers and placing blame. It's about learning the truth of what happened and how it affected everyone involved. Our forefathers put the weight of slavery on our shoulders and it needs to be dealt with correctly.
Good morning children. Today we will be discussing how the British sold the slaves to America. By show of hands, can anyone guess who sold them to the British ?
Randy Gibbons- Maybe you should also learn about the history of sin and how that affected everyone going fourth.
@@theepsteindiaries 🤣😂 truff yo. They don’t like talking about that part.
Christopher F. Rufo, Tweeted this about *CRT* On March 15th 2021: "We have successfully frozen their brand - "Critical Race Theory" - into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. *We will eventually turn it toxic* as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand".
@@deevalerie5857 it is toxic, you can debate something in good faith while working to stop it practice, lol, where did you copy that comment from?
WTH is this man talking about? - dumping a range of different issues into one pot - stirring it and calling it CRT!
This is why the American culture of breaking everything down to slogans, is detrimental to a proper discourse of issues. Instead of saying I don't agree with CRT, why don't you discuss its component principles that you disagree/agree with? Screaming fascist, socialist, communist and capitalist are just slogans. Discuss the principles within and stop arguing using just the title.
Some people don't want to discuss the principles of it, instead they use it as a shield for their racism, not understanding that it is not been taught to their children even though they don't have a clue what it is!!
A person who hold bias against CRT does not want to dissect to have a dialectical debate. He or she is afraid of a direct encounter with the truth. That’s why labeling and slogans are used. Cognitive dissonance wants no part of facing real true history and stinky funk that comes with it. White Supremacist need white-washed indoctrinated education to hide behind. It smells like rotten cheese 🧀.
You need to acquaint yourself with symbolic language. It is as old as time. You will never get rid of it. Someone will always attach a name, title, face to the things they like or dislike. I love that you think it's possible, but pick another soapbox.
Oh my god, that is the Dream!
@@freda2758 This box suits me just fine, you stick to your lane and I promise not to be arrogantly condescending, these people don't care about symbols unless it's fascist, do you just sit by with your symbols while they try to destroy democracy, I personally think they deserve to be called out for their deplorable behavior. That's just me!
I’m a white woman who was raised by my mentally disabled grandfather who had the disposition of mr. Rogers. I’ve always considered one of my best characteristics was my compassion and empathy my Gramps taught me. I wouldn’t DREAM of feeling hate or superiority towards another human, no matter who they were. But when I moved out of America, to one of the most diverse cities on the planet, I realized how ignorant I was of the many forms of oppression and bigotry there are. When I returned to America years later, I realized those things were amplified in our culture by an unbelievable scale.
I know it’s hard to be told you’re hurting people when you don’t see it. When you don’t consider yourself hurtful... but here’s the thing: it’s not about YOU (white people). It’s learning about others, to understand their struggles and ways you can help (even if that just means stop saying “all lives matter”).
Malcolm x said white liberals are the worse. Read the book, stop helping us. The pity party is weak.
All lives matter.
If you bring up this issue in the future - I say you (Joe) should actually do some research on the subject before bringing in nonsense arguments that it's on both sides. It's easy to see that it makes Caucasians uncomfortable when ever race is brought up in any argument.
Explaining to the devil's advocate about the devil. They don't want to know God. Reap what you sow. Do not be deceived : God cannot be mocked . A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature , from that nature will reap destruction ; the one who sows to please the spirit, from the spirit will reap eternal life.
Amen.
What does this have to do with this video? I’m lost here.
wtf???
Prove that god exists?
None of you can, NONE.
Bla bla bla bla god, this is not helpful.
We need to talk about ACTUAL human nature in REALITY, not FANTASY.
Rufo makes a much stronger argument here regarding CRT in the short time that he had to speak and is hardly addressed by Eddy, especially in his closing statement.
THEY ALWAYS CUT HIM OFF BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE AND ISNT JUST MIDLESSLY REGURUTATING MK ULTRA MIND CONTROL PUKE LIK ETHESE CRT PEDDLERS
Rufo and Joe are full of $hit. Crt is the new buggy man. Ask Educater Jane Elliot. She says if you went to school in the United States and you're not a Racist you're a miracle. Unless you taught yourself the truth
“People talking without speaking” - Simon & Garfunkel
maybe we should walk a mile in another persons shoes before we say anything
It's time to get rid of the GOP and replace them with RIGHTEOUSNESS and JUSTICE.
“Confronting our ugliness” will have little to no affect on economic outcomes, which is what this is all about.
Well what country gives you a better opportunity to do that?
It's an old debate, Du bois or Washington... I say try to walk and chew gum at the same time.
@@shanekasper4587 you know The US is no longer the best country in the world for upward economic mobility right? I mean you can Google it... hit think democratic socialist European countries
@@issakleonard1 well that is good news for anybody wanting to leave this country. They have opportunities somewhere else.
@@issakleonard1 People are getting too caught up on the flavor of the gum.
Joe is tone deaf and out of touch .......replace
How so?
Silly nonsense
He's also too lazy to do his homework! Just sits there and blabbers.......showing up unprepared is disrespectful to his audience
@John Brown lol 🤣
The way Joe danced around the topic and with him trying to hold back his privilege as he does, is very disappointing. I understand that he is a republican and has been a critic of the former guy, However, his sense of entitlement rares its ugly face, and here we just saw it! As for Rufo, he just wants to be relevant, and since he did not do so hot in Seattle with his report on the homeless, which backfires, He how goes back to his arsenal and comes out with CRT, or a convoluted version of it to make himself popular! Also, Joe mention Asian and moderate liberals making the issue crt, Christopher is in an interracial marriage, so what is Joe implying?
Joe just wants to be completely ignorant of the very fact that the Republican party has always been racist and veering into white nationalism for DECADES, when he himself was in office once. Once he realizes that those "conservative" values are nothing but a smokescreen for authoritarianism and a way to oppress those who are the "other" he will realize that all he held dear was for nothing. And that kind of bitter pill is tough to swallow for folks like Joe.
@@thething1710 Well laid out. Thanks.
@@thething1710 Totally agree.
_Conservatism_ was merely the new way of being a white supremacist after the civil rights bills were passed in the 60s. All the Dixiecrats turned into GOP conservatives seemingly overnight post 1960s.
@@thething1710 Listen, no one wants to pay higher taxes, neither do I.
And government should be small, within reason.
But I believe in achieving those things responsibly and not at the expense of 36 million people, the current poor tally in this country.
I grew up as one of them, I wouldn’t wish that on anybody.
And everyone should have the unmitigated right to vote and be equal under the law. Period.
That simple.
But this country can’t even get that right, and the biggest hurdle to that for decades, since I’ve been alive and beyond, is the GOP and the 74 million who voted for Trump.
@@thething1710 Your entire premise is false.
My mother taught me the most about Critical Race Theory.I remember learning, for the first time in middle school about slavery. It was my 3rd period history class. After hearing about the history of slavery in America. I was devastated, and upset for days. My mom knew something was bothering me, so she asked. I told her about what I had learned. She simply said, "Most people do not believe that slavery is OK". She went on to say that we learn about it so we also know that it is not OK. i was relieved to hear that most people are good people. I also learned that day that history is important to learn so we don't make the same mistakes as we made in the past, and we go into the future with a better idea of what is OK, and what is not OK.
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CRT is not about slavery in the sense you are referring to it. I doubt you were ever taught CRT in middle school. You may have been taught some history of slavery though.
That's not Critical Race Theory. That's just flat out history. You do know there is a difference between Theory and factual history?
I love you Dr. Glaude and your sentiments are embarrassingly true but we have to know that white America is NEVER gonna acknowledge and accept that their ancestors were deliberate and ruthless in their quest to dominate this country. No one in the black community confuses them with their ancestors UNTIL evidence pops up that exposes their true nature. And that includes the "good white people" who can see the forest from the trees and where this country is headed not just in terms of race but in the overall ideology of what America said on paper was how the nation should move forward. White Americans wrote ALL the rules and laws and everytime they are forced to enforce them, they come up with "new" laws and regulations.
Do you feel that way about national minimum wage laws, which have a very racist history, but aren't criticized by CRT because they are sponsored by the DNC? CRT is about centralizing power for the sake of a political party's agenda. They are very selective in their outrage.
So what about us Irish slaves, and the fact England was selling them to us as debtors, by there own people mind you. So no look deeper and not the facts given to you before you say something.
@@marccres6619 If that's the case then your issue is with England not America. The difference between your peoples struggle and my people's struggle is that your people could've left and went back where y'all came from and I don't mean it in a disrespectful way, believe me I don't, but immigrants can't leave their homeland in despair, come to America and complain about the treatment they might receive HERE!! Descendants of slavery didn't come to America because they heard they were having a job fair my brother, we were brutalized and belittled with no one to stand up for us. That's the difference between your peoples history here and my people's history here.
"White" Americans - you are full of racist generalizations. Try looking at your own racism - practice what you preach. You don't know all so called white Americans. Don't judge people by their skin color.
CRT might well be part of a history or law elective class at university level. But it doesn't belong in comic book level in K-12.
CRT is a college level course. The right is manufacturing fear by lying about it be in taught in K-12.
@@truegrit7697 Well, the dope smoking ponytail elementary education major who graduates next month will certainly not be able to contain his newly found racist opinions. That takes it beyond university theory and in to young children's classroom.
@@truegrit7697 The NEA literally approved it being taught in k-12 , 3 days ago.
So...what now?
I'm guessing you'll say "Oh...well...CRT IS being taught in schools to little kids, but it's not that bad".
Right?
@@tysonclarke012 Wrong Wrong Wrong and you are lying. CRT is only taught in Law Schools. Fox News is deceiving you.
@@tysonclarke012 Guess you need to believe the RUclips comment experts instead of your lyin' eyes.
I would like to hear this some more!
Even if you have to go out and destroy a person's reputation and career, go home, look in the mirror and say out loud, "I'm good enough, smart enough, and dog gone it, people like me!"
The "Original Sin" was slavery itself, which has been around longer than White People, also It wasn't white slave traders who captured the slaves in Africa. It was black tribal leaders who would get rid of their rivals in the tribe or prisoners of war, march them out to the ports where the Slave traders would be. The history of Slavery is complex and we just want to reduce it to something small enough to fit on a tweet.
Yeah Rufo, bring up Asian American community as a shield to your BS
Exactly. When have Asian Americans every fought on the side of black Americans?
So far I haven't heard them describe "Critical Race Theory" accurately.
We should be teaching Critical Thinking and Analysis , prioritising it
in fact, Diversionary Red Herrings like the blind corruption of "Critical Race Theory"
(Author,,,,,?,,,) Reinforce the need for basic mechanism and skills in modern research to consider the basis of conspiracies, Just a thought,,,,,
What is the Critical Race Theory that is being taught in schools and what is the over reach ?
A racist ideology that many haven't a clue who the architect were n how they plan to brainwash children in equity over equality
****267 Killed
*****687 injured
7 children dead
Just this past weekend in our country.
Who is in charge and responsible for ending this carnage? Where is media questioning elected officials?
When its said the arguments are not made in good faith…. The white man laughs…. This is the white mans game and joe is aware and i give him credit for straddling the fence.
We must acknowledge and own our past in order for change.
exactly, the race issue has always existed throughout history, and denial does not make it go away it just continues to evolve and get worse. Acknowledgment and accountability are the best way to restore this nation, not avoiding the foundational sins, the sins of forefathers always visit the third and fourth generations, that is the Creator's doing to produce repentance and change. Americans are labeled and categorized by the color of their skin (sad), instead of us seeing each other as human beings with distinct differences with respect. As long as the made-up labels remain nothing will change the spell of racism will remain, history always repeats itself if there is no real change of hearts, just look the atmosphere is saturated with race issues. Laws can be made by the government, but it does not mean the heart of the people have changed, only God can do this kind of mastery (My mom told me this and she is in her 80s, she has lived through all of the eras, like Jim Crow, cotton picking, lynching, etc.). The change comes when people are held accountable for their wrongdoings not acting as nothing happened, that is not going to work anymore with black people, I GUARANTEE.
These are the same "conservatives" that voted on the curriculum In Texas years ago. So in grade school my daughters history books had no mention of slaves, but referred to them as "African migrant workers".smh
@Scientific Methodologist again with your spam, no New info dude. This is a New Century, hello???
@UCtJk38je0TE2q_WaXDfjZdg the parties have always changed, the ideals of people haven't. The dixiecrats of the 50s and 60s are the Republicans of today, and they were dems. Your point doesn't hold
@@courtneyhoward2758 ANOTHER DIXIE CRAT WEIRDO. DEMOCRATS WERE THE SLAVE OWNERS FIGHT THE NORTH WHO WANTED THEM FREE. AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED BETWEEN THE 2 PARTIES.
Courtney Howard- So you are saying Children do not learn about Abraham Lincoln, Southern Democrats and abolitionists? I did when I went to grammar school a long time ago.
pad yes they learn about them, not southern dems (k-5) but it is white washing of the history that I'm speaking of. When I was in elementary we at least were taught and knew what a slave was, where they came from and who enslaved them. But to now see them depicted as "African migrant workers" is a fallacy
What does CRT have to do with Jan 6th, exactly?
As an asian american, i absolutely believe an objective and accurate depiction of racism and the very real manifestations of it doing harm in our country should be taught in schools. No other asian american i know believes that CRT should be banned from being taught.
History without accurate context is mythology, and mythology doesn't help us steer clear from repeating past mistakes.
That's not what CRT does in practice. It actually rejects objectivity as a form of white supremacy.
He's opposed to Critical Race Theory but he can't stop talking about Critical Race Theory. That's peculiar.
Critical Race Bolloxology
If it’s such a good thing, and so good for everyone involved, why are explanations for it different depending on who you taking to? Also why is it so controversial? Seems like if there is value in it there would be no reason for debate.
@@Luckyleft13 .. They are just trying to turn everyone against the big bad white person, even if you are white yourself .. lol
Thank you Eddie for your wisdom, it was so good to see you on here again, Miss You 💜🧡🤍
BossLadii71- 1st Corinthians 1:27-For God has chosen the foolish of the world to shame the wise, and he has chosen the weak of the world to shame the mighty...
@@Raineygoodyears AMEN!!!
@@BossLadii71 Amen.
He provided nothing of substance to the discussion
@@sideshowamit You can have your opinion, what he said may not pertain to you, and that's okay. I'm one who listens to him speak on multiple platforms, not just on here.
Yeah confront the ugly truth of who's committing most of the violet crimes in America and theorizing the nation.
In 2015, the six Waltons on the Forbes 400 list were worth $136.1 billion, making them the richest family in the United States. They have more wealth than 43% of American families combined. Their net worth is nearly equal to the combined wealth of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. The Waltons’ wealth comes from their inherited, controlling stake in Walmart. While Walmart workers live in poverty, the Waltons rake in billions every year from the company in dividends and sales of their Walmart shares.
@nattyp Why dont you start your own company and share your wealth from it to all your employees.
@@wowadamshiffsaturd1469 that’s a very good idea….👍🏾
"Not my idea" is a great book to start conversation and reflection. And it is not saying anything about marxism, freedom of speach or democracy. It is not CRT eather, wich belonges to academia. This critic is just doing a mix of fear mongering chaos.
Ever been to CRT. I have. It's not fear mongering. They don't even give you printed materials. The teachers are as transparent as BLM finances.
We confront it over and over and you’ll still say “we need to confront…” because it gets you air time
Until America confronts its ugly racist history America will never be the land of the free, white people need to confront the racist cancer that is in house, they know there racist mom, dad, uncle, etc.., they need tostand up to them and stand for what's right, let's not forget that God is watching, and although you may be on top of things now, in the end you will pay a price, in this life or the after, hatred of God's creation is a hatred for God, remember he created all races, you don't get to pick and choose what race you are born into,and He being God instructed us to love one another,so, the big problem with race is that the next generation of racist just keeps it alive instead of breaking the curse.
Swinging the pendulum the other way is never the answer. Actually, growing up in Catholic schools taught me the evils of racism. Black, white, or otherwise no one should be ashamed of what color they were born with.
Why are you giving Rufo a platform? He is SUPER clear that he wants to redefine what CRT is all about for the purpose of lumping all sorts of rightwing cultural issues that they don't like. CRT is a legal theory that asks law students to look at the law through a lens of racial impact. Period.
And, by having the nice young White man debating the Black man you are feeding right into the situation that created this mess in the first place. White men have been defining and redefining Black realities and experiences FOREVER! How about getting a White man to debate Rufo? Why are Black people still having to defend themselves on this show? Geesh...
I couldn't lie as consistently and vociferously (and venomously) as Rufo if I TRIED.
Dude has an entire statement out about the propaganda tactics they're using to discredit any attempt to address race. Lying POS!
How did he lie?
Keep living in your own warped version of reality.
@@BrockLanders once again, how did he lie? Look, I hate Donald Trump and right wing bs, but I’m also fair ans think CRT is a joke.
I feel like he’s complicating things. Just say CRT is teaching how laws from the time of slavery until now has created systemic racism and it’s taught in colleges only.
Who is the “we” Glaude is talking about? WE didn't do the things CRT examines and critics. THEY did.
We as black people HAVE NO ALLIES. This is the absolute epitome of it.
Sounds more like this guys hates himself and wants others to feel the same. Too bad! 😁😁
Alot of philosophies, posthumanism for example are suggesting we move past anthrocentrism. And for good reason, if we thought of the nonhuman more often we would be alot more careful with technology and things like pollution, mining etc.. hopefully lol
You have to admit there's a problem before you can address it - HOW HARD IS THIS TO UNDERSTAND?!!!
This is not about understanding. This is about power, control and money. If you are fully convinced and entrenched in that Ideology then it does not matter if you are rich, poor, grew up in the south or the north. This is the thought process of self preservation and maintaining the concept that if I can find someone to keep in a lower position than I, then maybe I will have one of the three above.....I will think in the way that profits me best. Sad isn't it?
Kids get along n are not as racist as the ones writing books n profiting off of division
Wt fragility is grotesque. I knew a girl from the Bronx who had a photo of her grandfather framed in the living room of her apartment. Under the photo was an old dirty shoe. When I asked her mother who it was, she told me it was her father and the story of the photo. It was taken the day of her 6th birthday, the whole dressed up in Louisiana and had a picnic after the photo. wt men rolled up on them, accused him of raping a wt woman he never met, and LYNCHED him in front of their whole family. Her mother was 6 months pregnant watching helpless as the murdered her husband. The shoe was all they had of him. My friend like so many Afro descendants was a child and knew that story. The fact that malignant narcissist wt people can't handle their kids knowing the truth of what their communities did and still do to us, displays how repulsive they are as a community.🤮
In order for us to move on, we need to learn about our history...the good, bad and the ugly.
CRT isn’t history
@@louistully3831 I said we need to learn our history...I said nothing about crt.
@@corinnasanchez5821 which public school is teaching inaccurate history?
Passing sins to children is always wrong. Teaching to do what is right going forward and learning from history is a better approach.
But they don't even want to teach the history!
how is teaching about race/racism "passing sins to children"?
Eddie is right, it won’t be comfortable for a lot of folks, because it requires humility and acknowledge that what you’re standing on it was originated by stepping on someone else’s inalienable rights.
Just because the father stole an intellectual property and created a fortune that their kids are enjoying, does that exempt the kids from having to pay what is rightfully not theirs? Or, they will have to go into the “sacrificing” in order to accept that what they have was ill gained and therefore it won’t be easy, but they have to because it is legally and abiding and true??
This country is not ready to face it truth. They want everyone else to be held accountable, but not them or their kids
It was so nice of Joe to give Rufo a seemingly rational speech to agree with at the end. Of course, it didn't stop Rufo from going into his (straight out of the 1930s Goebell's playbook) rant about Marxism and liberals hating capitalism.
CRT questions, criticizes, challenges, and even rejects classical liberal value, like, color-blindness, racial integration, equality, individualism, incremental improvement, "objective, neutral, and balanced" view, etc. and the traditional 1964 civil rights movement discourse.
Here are some quotes from CRT authors:
"The aspect of our work which most markedly distinguishes it from conventional liberal and conservative legal scholarship about race and inequality is deep dissatisfaction with traditional civil rights discourse"
--Critical Race Theory: the key writings that formed the movement. Edited by Kimberle Crenshaw , ...
"Unlike traditional civil rights discourse, which stresses incrementalism and step-by-step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principals of constitutional law."
-- Critical Race Theory. An Introduction. Third edition. by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic
So it's racist.
Critical race theory needs to be taught as history, not n it’s own
THIS IS NOT WHO AMERICA IS. THIS IS PROPAGANDA FROM LIBERALS TO DIVIDE THE COUNTRY.
CRT is part of a graduate school class that is optional. It's not syphoned into students brains by anyone!
Why are you so afraid of an idea, a Theory? A critical theory. That should be taught and debated by students. Why else have students, if not to learn new ideas and yes some old ideas too.
@Scientific Methodologist It is most definitely NOT the same today and again, you know that.
@Scientific Methodologist Fool! the parties changed with civil rights and the dems lost the Jim Crow south .
Don't cherry pick history because it makes you look a fool
The conversation must be led by persons who are well versed in the theory and not solely pushing a revisionist ideology or political agenda. The work is hard but, we can do it!!!
in principle that is true, but it would have been bad TV if they let Rufo talk uninterrupted for the entire segment
"overreach drives allies away", this is very key to understanding racism in America and shows why this keeps coming up and it is because you have a lot of "allies" who say they want things fix but the fix should not inflict the slightest amount of pain on them and if it does it is better for black people to keep carrying the burden.
When the slaves were going to be freed, they were promised some wealth to get started but there was a problem if they were given that wealth it would affect the flow of raw materials from the south into the northern industries so what was promised to the black slaves was given to their former slave masters so they would have the labour and the extra lands required...."ALLIES".