Re TV calibreation, as a retired qualified calibrator my advice is have this done in your home after you have had at least a week to get used to your new TV. Thia calibration will only be at it's most accurate under the conditions that it will be watched in. Calibration carried out in a dim workshop will be different to that in your home. Does it make a big difference, in theory it shouldn't but in practice it does. Only you know what you want that calibrated image to look like. My experience of the higher end TV's such as Sony are that they are very accurate out of the box. Lesser brands can be hit and miss.
Hi, I'm only familiar with calibrating computer monitors. You run the software, it tells you to lower the brightness and contrast and creates a color-profile-file, which you can open in windows. Is it the same with TVs or do you only have the possibility to set brightness, contrast and hue with your remote? Are there color-profile-files, which you can import to the TV?
Is that home “burn in” time still a thing on these new tvs? It’s been a while since I bought a tv but the last few times I had new tvs calibrated they needed quite a few hours of on time before they came in to calibrate.
The thing that gets me about calibration is the cost. Star power wanted 400 bucks per input. So I did a buch of research and did it myself as best as I could without the equipment.
@Caleb_Denison no one hardly does that around me period. And the one company that does do it says they haven't been called for a Calibration on a tv in 15 years. 😂 I don't think even 1% get their tvs Calibrated by a professional. And why should they. I hate to break it too you but the difference is so miniscule only enthusiast think they make bank with one.😂😂😂
And a professional Calibration doesn't always look better. Color accuracy only goes so far when it's all about perception. I've rarely ran into an issue when I felt I've needed to correct the color on a tv. Just don't buy junk. And yes, often too bright is a thing. Don't know how you guys can do back lights at 100% on these tvs and not find it distracting. You testing these on a Beach somewhere in the Florida sun?
@@damontroch4765 I know one thing! Us photographers that make prints, calibrate our monitors so that what we see on the screen is close to what we see on our prints! I score highly on color tests. I would be able to see the difference on calibrated tv screens.
Video idea regarding calibration. A setup tutorial guide going over the "what/how" each setting does/impacts the picture on screen. For instance, things like brightness, contrast,& gamma all seem to have an affect on brightness on the screen, but in different ways. Similarly to tint/cool/warm & individual red/green/blue adjustments.
I "calibrate" by adjusting all settings to look the most natural to my eyes. I never use the pre-canned modes like sports or theater because they don't look right, so I watch all content in the custom mode.
I had a great experience getting an 85” B9 from Value Electronics. I definitely couldn’t do it right out of college but married, kid on the way, and in the “settle down” mode of life, I decided to go for it. Love the results!!!
The issue I'm starting to see with these inflated nit numbers isn't that they're outright lies or misleading; it's that they're used to distract us from what is a growing issue: control. More and more, I'm running into problems with TVs from many major manufacturers lacking the processing power to control their backlighting systems as you attempt to obtain the brightest possible image-and this is especially problematic with miniLED/microLED displays. This lack of control often results in having to keep features or picture settings set to off or low, which when spending $$$ on a TV is ridiculous because what are you paying for at that point if you have to "water down" the experience so as not to cook the TV.
Absolutely correct. This is why when someone tells you that the quality, power and capability of the TV's PROCESSOR is the most important factor to consider FIRST when choosing a new TV, you should probably take them seriously and actually listen to what they are saying. These really aren't TVs anymore that we are talking about here and they haven't been for a VERY long time now. These are computers and just like ANY other computer the processor (in this case, SoC which incorporates a CPU and a GPU) literally is the single most important thing that will determine the overall performance of the unit, regardless of what you elect to use it for. When doing your homework to choose a new TV to buy, you really would be very wise to start that process off by reading up on and learning about what TV PROCESSOR inside these TVs is actually the best and most capable. Doing anything else is a mistake, because you're essentially putting the cart before the horse by doing so. In today's modern "TVs" processing is EVERYTHING!
I agree, it's all about control and how you use that brightness. I've been to 2-3 stores watching TVs for hours and I noticed that in both cases the TV that stood out to me was the X90L because it has no place competing with other TVs given its LED backlight and low count of dimming zones. In one case it was smack against the S90C (two of them) and the other against the A80L. Somehow that X90L that's a mid-range TV and can only do 1,100 nits in 2% and 700 100% was putting that brightness with impressive control from the processor, enough that in some images the S90C and A80L looked quite dim in luscious red fabrics or blue water. Both times, I found it very hard to justify the OLED's contrast advantage (when I could notice it) vis-a-vis the brightness advantage of the X90L especially when price was taken into account. No doubt the S90C and A80L are amazing OLEDs and quite affordable but this was not a massacre as one would've expected, in fact the X90L fought back quite a bit in way more scenes than I expected. Same with music - you can have 9,000 watts but if the detail doesn't exist and give you that performance as if the artist is in the room and your jaw hits the ground, who cares about the watts... It's all about the warmth of the sound🙂
@@techsamurai11 I'm a firm believer that the X90L punches WAY above its weight class. Just exceptional bang-for-the-buck value on that TV. I've never once even heard of an X90L customer that wasn't very happy with it and I've never seen a single X90L for sale as an Open Box item in any store I've been to. That's because those that buy them keep them - and they don't return them, ever.
When every review and ranking seems to come down to brightness, it makes sense why they'll just ramp that up harder to get better reviews and therefore sell more units.
The thing is with most other metrics so similar, the only differences to market is the difference in brightness in OLEDs or the dimming zones / brightness in mini-led
My 83 A90j was calibrated with Custom Pro 1 for dark room viewing and Custom Pro 2 for brighter room viewing. As I can control the lighting, I leave it in the dark room setting. The calibrated PQ is much nicer than the out of the box custom setting.
Caleb you are so right on. I think 🤔 of super bright TV's or very powerful amplifiers as having extra Head Room. It's like having a eight cylinder truck while only using a four cylinders power most of the time. That extra power ensures your not always asking the most out of a product. When I first started driving my dad would say those guys smoking their tires are going to need tires, maybe transmission and engine work soon. I had a friend that proved my dad right on all COUNTS. 😎🤓 I love and miss him. RIP 😔🙏🕊️💔🙏🕊️💔🙏🕊️💔 Gilbert.
It really isn't. If you're only using four cylinders your engine isn't working properly. You can have plenty of power in reserve you don't have to use it all, avoiding stress is the way.
Thanks Caleb for drilling down to the essence of my question. Your response and insight confirmed my notion that the customer is right (usualy/sometimes?) when it comes to "best"
Ah, the calibration…takes me back to the 90’s and giant venues, with 4 giant screens and clients who didn’t know the difference between CRT and projection, color balance, etc. Good times 🫨. I don’t miss that. I leave my LG OLEDs as is. Namaste 🙏. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Perhaps instead of being seen as "this is what the content is SUPPOSED to look like", accuracy calibration should be seen as a reference point so that everyone starts on the same page. IMO, adjusting to personal preference should always be the end goal, and that's easier to achieve when you have a solid, consistent baseline.
I always love your great answers to interesting questions! Thank you for answering the QA and Calibration question. I am happy with my two Sony TVs right out of the box in Custom mode, with minor tweaks, and never felt like I needed a calibration. However, I think it would be great to have a picture mode that could be calibrated for accuracy and another one for more pop. I definitely would want the settings written down for me (if possible) so I could reset to factory settings, then add the settings back if I wanted, just to test for myself. Even though you may have covered the brightness issue before, this was a really clear explanation I appreciated. Great job!
My Bravia 9 came in, and as most have said, Sony settings are really good out of the box, BUT, first thing to do is turn off the Power Saver settings. The TV is way too dim with it on. I didn't pay $3k for a dim TV. I find that I'm pretty satisfied with Standard, as Cinema is dark and Professional is even darker. I made a few tweaks with Standard, from a youtube calibration guys video and it really looks great. Most of the things they recommend is to turn off a lot of settings that affect the picture, such as "ambient light" and "motion" settings. There are some TV series that you will enjoy more if you mess with the "Gamma" setting. The Expanse is just too dark to use the same gamma as a lot of other shows. I've seen The Expanse on my Samsung, so I didn't like how dark everything was on the Bravia on say, inside the Roci. After a little experimenting, all it needed was to adjust the Gamma to remove all the 'darkness' from the scene without washing out the picture.
When I bought a Samsung 1080p some 12 years ago, it was very nice and I was satisfied. Someone on the AVS forum had theirs calibrated and posted his settings. I went in the "secret" service menu and set mine to match his. The difference was it made this great TV even better, and I'm still using the same settings today 12 years later. I haven't had to change anything. The only problem now is the panel is going bad from the vertical lines problem of older Samsungs. I have a Bravia 9 on order and I'll still keep the sammy, maybe putting it in my bedroom using an extra wireless FireTV stick. You should know that before paying for calibration, the TV needs to (hate to use the term) burn in beforehand, as components will experience some changes after use. It's normal of all electronics, nature of the beast and all that. Ask the calibrator beforehand about it.
I have a 65" B9 and it is awesome. Do the calibration yourself or don't do it at all Is what I say. Definitely don't pay someone good money to do it. Also, Sony's high-end TVs are generally great out of the box and only require minor adjustments to get it looking spectacular.
I just got my 75 inch 2024 QM8 a few days ago. The specular highlights are amazing. I keep the brightness at 50. Is it bright? Yes. Do I think it adds to immersion for intentionally bright scenes? Also yes.
I paid to have Classy Calibrations drive out to my home in KC and calibrate two TVs. Although it wasn't "cheap", his prices were more reasonable than what Value Electronics has listed on their website. As for my experience with his calibration, even with my Sony TV in its most calibrated out-of-the-box setting (Cinema Pro), the post-calibration difference was immediately noticeable. My fiancee who couldn't care less what the TV looks like even admitted that she didn't expect the TV to look so much better. I would not at all describe the TV at all as looking lifeless and now I HIGHLY recommend the service to anyone who cares about picture quality on their TVs.
I don't agree at all. You can calibrate your tv all you want . Does nothing for processing. And you literally can just do it yourself manually and end up with a much more accurate tv to your liking. Using your Preset Picture modes isn't calibration. They are just setting that are there because 98% of the population isn't gonna go in manually and adjust contrast ,color, or white balance. So if you are comparing Factory preloaded settings options vs Professional calibration sure you will see more of a difference. But if you know what you are doing by eye and it looks good. Professional calibrations are miniscule and a waste of money. Stop trying to push such a nonsense useless service. It's like buying those BS extended aftermarket car warranties. Might as well throw that $400 in the trash.
@@damontroch4765 I don’t agree entirely with your point. As I said, I had mine in its most “accurate” picture mode and but I still wasn’t totally happy with it. The color white, for instance, was too green and there was a subtle purple hue to some darker skin tones. Any small adjustments I would make with the onscreen controls inevitably caused some other compromise I couldn’t correct. Now, I agree that 90% of people (including my fiancée) would be just fine with how it looked by default, but I think those who really care about their tv looking as accurate as possible, and have the funds, should absolutely invest in a calibration. There is no way to do what a professional calibrator does with thousands of dollars worth of equipment and test patterns with just the naked eye. But if you’re not after accuracy and you just want an image that looks good enough, then yeah, fiddle around with some settings and call it a day. But in my case, the difference was more than what I even imagined and my fiancée could appreciate the difference which says a lot.
@@damontroch4765 People really do need to ask themselves, "Do I want an accurate/reference-aligned color presentation or do I want a fun color presentation that looks good to my eyes? Either one is fine, but please don't EVER confuse one with the other - and worse yet, please don't ever try and pass one off as the other because those two things have NOTHING at all to do with one another and they are VERY different things entirely.
Nice video, Caleb. About the 4,000 nit question-I find myself explaining to friends and family how brightness is used in HDR, and guess what? They still don’t get it. Maybe when we have nothing but HDR content to stream, then they’ll go like, right! I see.
My analogy for tv brightness and more nits is obvious, but - the sun. It doesn't take up your whole field of vision and you generally don't even look directly at it. But that (much much higher) power makes everything else you can see "realistic" - the colours are pure and natural. Likewise having the capability to go super bright with your tv gives highlights the punch they need as Caleb says but regular colour purity is better too. Even if your tv was capable of the brightness of the sun it wouldn't somehow blind you (unless for the sake of argument it was a picture of the sun haha). Dark stuff would still be dark. Light bulbs would only be as bright as actual light bulbs. But colour volume, purity and accuracy would be so much better. It would just be able to handle anything the creators throw at it. Resolution is similar.
So my wife has an office spot with a decent size, chunky desk. We want to wall mount a TV above the desk, but realistically it doesn't need to be and kinda shouldn't be bigger than like 43". I don't want to cheap out, but it also seems like the decent options in that size are expensive OLEDs. It will be used as a second office monitor also for streaming TV services. Any decent options around $500? Bonus points if Best Buy caries it as we have a $100 gift card from our Fridge purchase.
Question for you and any of your close friends. The Polk Reserve speakers are within my budget. In that or a really close price range are they the Best I can get. Best sounding for movies between 75DB-- 95 DB and music ❓❓ I wish there was a store in Southern California I could drive to and audition. 🙏
Because one nit is roughly equal to 3.426 lumens, you can compare the brightness of different devices by multiplying or dividing the values as needed. For example, a TV rated at 4,000 nits emits light that's roughly equivalent to a projector rated at 13,704 lumens. to put that in perspective welders, which requires robust eye protection, starts at 10,000 lumens and goes up to 100,000 lumens! However welding arcs give off radiation over a broad range of wavelengths, including ultraviolet (UV) radiation (200 to 400 nm), visible light (400 to 700 nm), and infrared (IR) radiation (700 to 1,400 nm).
I don't know if they're TOO bright, but I think brightness is an overvalued and over-marketed stat. I'll take the better contrast, color, and pure blacks of a QD-OLED/OLED over any of these LED techs. So much so, I just bought a 65" A95L.
@@CybrSlydr Aw that's a bummer. I recently had my 75" Sony X950K and Sony A8F OLED calibrated and I'm so happy i spent the money to do it. There are calibrators who travel. Either way enjoy your new tv!
Hey Caleb!!! About a 2 year subscriber now. Love all the videos and advice. Do you have any idea why with my 2024 QM8 that no matter what picture settings I use including color temp and extra processing, low power mode looks best in most situations. That's supposedly the worst mode, but even with the same exact settings in every aspect low power looks magnitudes better than even movie mode
I would never pay for a calibration. I know what I like and can do it myself. I have used some recommended settings from some You tubers as a starting point. It may take some time getting there but it's not that hard. With Sony their presets are pretty darn good.
yah, the whole obsession with crazy levels of brightness is weird to me. My 65C9 Oled isn't that bright compared to the new ones but I use eye comfort ON most of the time because my eyes get fatigued lol
There’s only a few basic settings you should ever change to make your tv look good. Just the same with audio, just a one time calibration and enjoy! If you start obsessing over perfect video and audio you will drive yourself mad with graphs and settings lol
One thing I found with my new Samsung TV was a poor 4k picture and sound quality while watching internet streaming services, it wasn't the TV, it was the modem provided by my Internet provider, they switched it out with a new one and suddenly everything was perfect, so make sure you have an excellent video and audio source to calibrate your TV. 4K RUclips video's look stunning on my TV.
What's a great soundbar that doesn't come with a sub or satellite speakers? I'm in an apartment and want to just get something that's better than my LG G4 internal speakers. Thanks.
I want to see your reviews on the new Sharp Televisions you said you'd review them and well all I hear is silence??? My most intrest is Sharps new and first Oled Televisions, apparently Sharp makes there own oled displays. They don't use LG Displays....a first. And yet zero reviews.
i buy a high end tv every year and wife doesnt get it lol. to her they all look the same. thats until i bought the u8n and she seen the horrible backlight bleed and motion issues. had some little issues with sony b9 but not to bad. still sent back for g3 and couldnt be happier
Ah Caleb, but even specular highlights can be unpleasantly bright. I have the S95C, which gets bright, but not excessively so, and sometimes I have to squint and my eyes hurt. I don't think I need more of that. If I do want to watch a movie, I'll darken my room. But why wouldn't I?
I just got a Sony Mini LED Bravia 7. (K75XR70) and I haven’t found a video on how to calibrate it! I feel like my pictures are off and don’t look as good!
@@rogercordova1478see I did and it’s still really gradient or massively contrasted. Some episodes I can see the dark spots are slowly shifting colors between RGB.
@@rogercordova1478 I don’t know if my reply went through but I did. I followed their instructions down to a t and my videos/movies/pictures still looks like “crushed” black. Like I can see the black turning RGB when the lighting isn’t the best in a dark film.
@@rogercordova1478 for some reason I keep typing out so much more and it’s not showing up. I followed their settings and my blacks aren’t dark but rather look like static. And I can see the tv show in low quality areas look like RGB
Could you all help me decide, Hisense U8N (65”) new or LG C3 (48”) renewed, i have a budget range of 800 to 1100 dollars, if i could get C3 even 55” i would be delighted but i couldn’t find one, and i feel like 48” is a bit small, and the only con that i could think for hisense is that its not an oled.
YES they are..i still have the latest model plasma from panasonic .65 inch 65vt60.and i still find thisl the best picture ever. Even if it is only 1080p. I dont like all those " too bright" screens. They never should have stoppen making those . Even a plasma at 1440p would be a better picture than many 4K LED TVS PS ita all about the dividend material. Most of the cable comp give a 1080i signal. Even 4 k material on uou tube looks fanrastic on my plasma. The lost the race because the would use too much Electric.. and we have to think about the carbon eh.......NOT.
And another problem is, that darker scenes, even in older 35mm movies, have reduced brightness in HDR. It like the made it darker, so the highlights, like lamps etc, pops even more...
The excess of brightness and the damage in my eyes, make me change my oled to a projector. My eyes are so relax and grateful now. I recommend this if you work wuth screens all day.
Yeah my old eyes can't take the blinding highlights of HDR anymore. I suffer from palinopsia, which causes afterimages in my vision, with bright objects. I have turn off peak brightness and toned down HDR to the point that my vision can deal with it. But I also mostly watch my projector instead. The projected image, is much easier and relaxing for my eyes.
I'll never understand why people like why anything that's over 2,000 Nits. I've seen what it looks like at over 2,000 nits and it actually hurts the hell out of my eyes and gives me a huge headache. I love how OLED for the most part keeps the nits under control and not do anything stupid and idiotic like Mini-LED are doing today
I dont understand why television manufactures dont allow over the air or maybe the ability to use a thumbdrive to calibrate the television. Why must we always use a human to calibrate?
Very panel is individual, so same calibeation to same brand and same model does not fit to another similar TV. So without having measurement devices you can not do it online. It is like going shooting field and call to frien and AKS where to move the barrel of the gun, if the people on the other side of phone says… move the fun two inch to the left and one down… you see not the target at all.. and aks about it. The other fellow say that he see the target in his target practice area… he gets bulls eye… you most likely hit someone car in the parking lot.
Unless you are a purist and want to view as the director intended, don't bother with a calibration. Plus the TV will drift over time, and another calibration will be needed a few years later.
I spent way too much money on calibration equipment, yet can calibrate by eye much more to my satisfaction. Whites and grays shouldn't have even the remotest hint of visible blue or yellow, and colors should look realistic both in hue and intensity. Then the thought hit me: picture calibration is done for the benefit of eyes, not machines. So why not use the intended beneficiary as the ultimate judge of what is right for your screens?
Because that's not actually calibration at all. Calibration has ONE objective and ONE objective alone: to get something (in this case one or more MODES on your list of available display modes on your TV) as close to a known accurate REFERENCE point as humanly and technically possible. If that's not your objective than you aren't a candidate for calibration at all. If all you want to do is tweak the settings on your TV to the way YOU like them, then just go right ahead and do that and knock yourself out, but please don't in ANY way ever draw ANY kind of parallelism at all between that and an actual calibration - as they have nothing at all even remotely to do with each other.
4000 nits is necessary. I don’t know why people are still questioning that. All that it’s used for is to adjust the brightness when necessary for certain scenes example a scene with a bright blue sky in is very sunny outside and a person is laying under a tree, casting a shadow the TV will use the necessary brightness for the sun, the sky and the shadow. people just assumed that the 4000 nits is for the entire display. it only does that depending on whatever you’re watching.
Exactly. People need to understand that all more POTENTIAL brightness does is give you exactly what you want and need: more dynamic range - for when it is called for by the content. Also, keep in mind here that same dynamic range also allows you the ability to bring out shadow detail that otherwise would have been missed in an area of crushed blacks. Yes, you DO actually want a really POTENTIALLY bright display....even if you don't actually realize why yet.
They are way too bright, combined with the size I have mine on lower brightness than other people might or I get bad headaches and eye strain from watching, especially with brighter scenery.
Flat Panel TV manufacturers are hurting us with Glare, not so much the brightness. Your brain has to cancel out the glare of the kitchen lights or backyard before you can watch your content. If you're going to be turning off the lights anyway, why not just go with a MODERN projector?
Some UHD discs, have highlights so damn bright, that I use my Panasonic ub820, to convert it to SDR 2020 instead. Keeping the improved colorspace, but letting my eyes be saved from the insane brightness. This is not how 35mm looked in the theaters. So to me, these insane highlights, on old movies, are revisionism.
Lol definitely worth repeating how peak brightness affects viewing experience. It is in fact far more common to hear complaints from the opposite side of the exact same equation: HDR content is too dim on my 4000-nit TV. Just 3 days ago, when someone explained "DV doesn't mean it's brighter" to the complaint that "DV seems pretty dark" while "SDR is very bight and has nice colors," the OP asked: "So a tv with more than 1000 or sometimes 2000 nits doesn't have any advantages? That means I can never benefit from the 3500 nits in dv or HDR?" This pops up like every couple months. The only way to help people understand what that 3500 nits is good for is to repeat.
I've yet to see a TV that was actually too bright all the time. That being said, HDR is not about being bright all the time, it's about being bright *when it needs to be*
@@RONderluck No, it IS a trend. Reviews didn't used to have this distracting music and your suggestion would mean that I would miss content that I would like (apart from the music).
My local Best buy had 2 identical Sony's next to each other, same video playing, one calibrated, one not. The uncalibrated TV looked amazing, the calibrated TV looked hideous
In store the TV looks very different than in your home… because of different lights etc… so that does not say much. All in all TV stores try to punch light and colours to eleven to make the TV look more puncly.
What gets me are the people that get on their high horse about accuracy above someone setting their TV to what literally looks best and most enjoyable to them. If the owner is happy, in love even, then that's all that matters
Well…kind of. Except that to an uneducated viewer, it can be like saying you like a sugary drink more than something less overtly sweet. Until you realize that it’s ultimately too much. With TVs, cooler color temps and bluer whites and snappy contrast can make an immediate impression that the TV is doing something!…until you realize that grass isn’t phosphorent and shouldn’t be glowing. A calibrated picture is always more subtle. But the benefits show up over time as you begin to notice that an episode of your favorite show’s main locale suddenly has shadow details that were just a homogenous mass of undifferentiated black before the calibration. But ultimately, many people like fake colors and crunchy contrast more than subtlety and nuance. But more people go to McDonald’s than a Michelin star rated steakhouse too. So that means McDonald’s is better? I don’t think so, but ‘over 99 billion sold’ is all that matters I guess 🤷♂️
@@scottwallace1 yes it is all that matters because we aren't talking about literal health consequences here, it's just entertainment when it comes down to it. I can appreciate nuance and subtlety, but shaming people for not spending hundreds of dollars more for subtlety when they're already enjoying themselves is just gatekeeping that's a waste of energy to take part in. Love what you love and spend your own dollars accordingly, and let others do the same. You can spread the gospel without preaching fire and brimstone... (and yes I realize this metaphor is incredibly hyperbolic).
Fortunately, we have a fixed reference point by which to judge all of these things. It's called reality. All you have to do to know what grass, bushes, shrubs and trees are REALLY supposed to look like is simply walk outside. THAT'S all the checking you ever need to do to know just how far "off" your TVs default color settings actually are, right out of the box. If you look at grasses in a scene and they literally look radioactive (all Samsung TVs and many LG TV's have this look by default) then you know there is a problem that clearly needs to be addressed. There are two ways you can fix that: 1.) Get your TV calibrated or 2.) actually do your homework BEFORE you run out to the store and just buy a TV based on the fact that it's the one that your co-worker told you to buy.
Honestly I’m of the opinion that TVs could get EVEN brighter. If you wanna stick to your 400 nit OLED screen go right ahead, but some of us have windows and glare to combat
Yeah, the problem there is that that quickly turns into an addiction for them and they simply don't know when to stop. They eventually can't help themselves. The solution there is to never even get them started down that "I want colors that pop" path in the first place. It never ends well. If they want to watch cartoons, then simply go watch cartoons, but don't watch regular TV and then do everything you can to turn THAT into a cartoon as well. No one wins in that scenario.
Re TV calibreation, as a retired qualified calibrator my advice is have this done in your home
after you have had at least a week to get used to your new TV.
Thia calibration will only be at it's most accurate under the conditions that it will be watched in.
Calibration carried out in a dim workshop will be different to that in your home.
Does it make a big difference, in theory it shouldn't but in practice it does.
Only you know what you want that calibrated image to look like.
My experience of the higher end TV's such as Sony are that they are very accurate out of the box.
Lesser brands can be hit and miss.
And THAT is why folks should just buy a SONY and forget about spending hundreds of dollars on calibrating inferior TVs.
Finally someone with brains. Thank you.
@@steveludwig4200 That is the point i was trying to make, forget about all the new upstarts
from Korea or China, save up and buy the best.
Hi, I'm only familiar with calibrating computer monitors. You run the software, it tells you to lower the brightness and contrast and creates a color-profile-file, which you can open in windows.
Is it the same with TVs or do you only have the possibility to set brightness, contrast and hue with your remote? Are there color-profile-files, which you can import to the TV?
Is that home “burn in” time still a thing on these new tvs? It’s been a while since I bought a tv but the last few times I had new tvs calibrated they needed quite a few hours of on time before they came in to calibrate.
The thing that gets me about calibration is the cost. Star power wanted 400 bucks per input. So I did a buch of research and did it myself as best as I could without the equipment.
PER input???!!!
@Caleb_Denison no one hardly does that around me period. And the one company that does do it says they haven't been called for a Calibration on a tv in 15 years. 😂 I don't think even 1% get their tvs Calibrated by a professional.
And why should they. I hate to break it too you but the difference is so miniscule only enthusiast think they make bank with one.😂😂😂
For $400 I could just buy the better TV
And a professional Calibration doesn't always look better. Color accuracy only goes so far when it's all about perception.
I've rarely ran into an issue when I felt I've needed to correct the color on a tv.
Just don't buy junk.
And yes, often too bright is a thing. Don't know how you guys can do back lights at 100% on these tvs and not find it distracting. You testing these on a Beach somewhere in the Florida sun?
@@damontroch4765 I know one thing! Us photographers that make prints, calibrate our monitors so that what we see on the screen is close to what we see on our prints! I score highly on color tests. I would be able to see the difference on calibrated tv screens.
Video idea regarding calibration. A setup tutorial guide going over the "what/how" each setting does/impacts the picture on screen. For instance, things like brightness, contrast,& gamma all seem to have an affect on brightness on the screen, but in different ways. Similarly to tint/cool/warm & individual red/green/blue adjustments.
I "calibrate" by adjusting all settings to look the most natural to my eyes. I never use the pre-canned modes like sports or theater because they don't look right, so I watch all content in the custom mode.
Pay yourself $600 and you have a professional calibration. 😊
I had a great experience getting an 85” B9 from Value Electronics. I definitely couldn’t do it right out of college but married, kid on the way, and in the “settle down” mode of life, I decided to go for it. Love the results!!!
The issue I'm starting to see with these inflated nit numbers isn't that they're outright lies or misleading; it's that they're used to distract us from what is a growing issue: control. More and more, I'm running into problems with TVs from many major manufacturers lacking the processing power to control their backlighting systems as you attempt to obtain the brightest possible image-and this is especially problematic with miniLED/microLED displays. This lack of control often results in having to keep features or picture settings set to off or low, which when spending $$$ on a TV is ridiculous because what are you paying for at that point if you have to "water down" the experience so as not to cook the TV.
Absolutely correct. This is why when someone tells you that the quality, power and capability of the TV's PROCESSOR is the most important factor to consider FIRST when choosing a new TV, you should probably take them seriously and actually listen to what they are saying. These really aren't TVs anymore that we are talking about here and they haven't been for a VERY long time now. These are computers and just like ANY other computer the processor (in this case, SoC which incorporates a CPU and a GPU) literally is the single most important thing that will determine the overall performance of the unit, regardless of what you elect to use it for. When doing your homework to choose a new TV to buy, you really would be very wise to start that process off by reading up on and learning about what TV PROCESSOR inside these TVs is actually the best and most capable. Doing anything else is a mistake, because you're essentially putting the cart before the horse by doing so. In today's modern "TVs" processing is EVERYTHING!
🥱 yyyaaaaawnnnnn
I agree, it's all about control and how you use that brightness. I've been to 2-3 stores watching TVs for hours and I noticed that in both cases the TV that stood out to me was the X90L because it has no place competing with other TVs given its LED backlight and low count of dimming zones.
In one case it was smack against the S90C (two of them) and the other against the A80L. Somehow that X90L that's a mid-range TV and can only do 1,100 nits in 2% and 700 100% was putting that brightness with impressive control from the processor, enough that in some images the S90C and A80L looked quite dim in luscious red fabrics or blue water. Both times, I found it very hard to justify the OLED's contrast advantage (when I could notice it) vis-a-vis the brightness advantage of the X90L especially when price was taken into account. No doubt the S90C and A80L are amazing OLEDs and quite affordable but this was not a massacre as one would've expected, in fact the X90L fought back quite a bit in way more scenes than I expected.
Same with music - you can have 9,000 watts but if the detail doesn't exist and give you that performance as if the artist is in the room and your jaw hits the ground, who cares about the watts... It's all about the warmth of the sound🙂
@@techsamurai11 I'm a firm believer that the X90L punches WAY above its weight class. Just exceptional bang-for-the-buck value on that TV. I've never once even heard of an X90L customer that wasn't very happy with it and I've never seen a single X90L for sale as an Open Box item in any store I've been to. That's because those that buy them keep them - and they don't return them, ever.
When every review and ranking seems to come down to brightness, it makes sense why they'll just ramp that up harder to get better reviews and therefore sell more units.
The thing is with most other metrics so similar, the only differences to market is the difference in brightness in OLEDs or the dimming zones / brightness in mini-led
Excellent description of brightness. Never heard it put that way before and now it makes perfect sense. Thank you.
Your calibration comment was best I’ve heard and that should educate many viewers and certainly educated me!
My 83 A90j was calibrated with Custom Pro 1 for dark room viewing and Custom Pro 2 for brighter room viewing. As I can control the lighting, I leave it in the dark room setting. The calibrated PQ is much nicer than the out of the box custom setting.
This is how value electronics calibrates. My Sony a80j has the custom pro 1 and pro 2 for dark and bright rooms.
@@christophergould2466 yep, DeWayne did it.
Caleb you are so right on. I think 🤔 of super bright TV's or very powerful amplifiers as having extra Head Room. It's like having a eight cylinder truck while only using a four cylinders power most of the time. That extra power ensures your not always asking the most out of a product. When I first started driving my dad would say those guys smoking their tires are going to need tires, maybe transmission and engine work soon. I had a friend that proved my dad right on all COUNTS. 😎🤓 I love and miss him. RIP 😔🙏🕊️💔🙏🕊️💔🙏🕊️💔 Gilbert.
It really isn't. If you're only using four cylinders your engine isn't working properly. You can have plenty of power in reserve you don't have to use it all, avoiding stress is the way.
Thanks Caleb for drilling down to the essence of my question. Your response and insight confirmed my notion that the customer is right (usualy/sometimes?) when it comes to "best"
I admire your patience 😊 thanks
Ah, the calibration…takes me back to the 90’s and giant venues, with 4 giant screens and clients who didn’t know the difference between CRT and projection, color balance, etc. Good times 🫨. I don’t miss that. I leave my LG OLEDs as is. Namaste 🙏. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Perhaps instead of being seen as "this is what the content is SUPPOSED to look like", accuracy calibration should be seen as a reference point so that everyone starts on the same page. IMO, adjusting to personal preference should always be the end goal, and that's easier to achieve when you have a solid, consistent baseline.
I always love your great answers to interesting questions! Thank you for answering the QA and Calibration question. I am happy with my two Sony TVs right out of the box in Custom mode, with minor tweaks, and never felt like I needed a calibration. However, I think it would be great to have a picture mode that could be calibrated for accuracy and another one for more pop. I definitely would want the settings written down for me (if possible) so I could reset to factory settings, then add the settings back if I wanted, just to test for myself. Even though you may have covered the brightness issue before, this was a really clear explanation I appreciated. Great job!
My Bravia 9 came in, and as most have said, Sony settings are really good out of the box, BUT, first thing to do is turn off the Power Saver settings. The TV is way too dim with it on. I didn't pay $3k for a dim TV. I find that I'm pretty satisfied with Standard, as Cinema is dark and Professional is even darker. I made a few tweaks with Standard, from a youtube calibration guys video and it really looks great. Most of the things they recommend is to turn off a lot of settings that affect the picture, such as "ambient light" and "motion" settings.
There are some TV series that you will enjoy more if you mess with the "Gamma" setting. The Expanse is just too dark to use the same gamma as a lot of other shows. I've seen The Expanse on my Samsung, so I didn't like how dark everything was on the Bravia on say, inside the Roci. After a little experimenting, all it needed was to adjust the Gamma to remove all the 'darkness' from the scene without washing out the picture.
When I bought a Samsung 1080p some 12 years ago, it was very nice and I was satisfied. Someone on the AVS forum had theirs calibrated and posted his settings. I went in the "secret" service menu and set mine to match his. The difference was it made this great TV even better, and I'm still using the same settings today 12 years later. I haven't had to change anything. The only problem now is the panel is going bad from the vertical lines problem of older Samsungs. I have a Bravia 9 on order and I'll still keep the sammy, maybe putting it in my bedroom using an extra wireless FireTV stick.
You should know that before paying for calibration, the TV needs to (hate to use the term) burn in beforehand, as components will experience some changes after use. It's normal of all electronics, nature of the beast and all that. Ask the calibrator beforehand about it.
I have a 65" B9 and it is awesome. Do the calibration yourself or don't do it at all Is what I say. Definitely don't pay someone good money to do it. Also, Sony's high-end TVs are generally great out of the box and only require minor adjustments to get it looking spectacular.
I just got my 75 inch 2024 QM8 a few days ago. The specular highlights are amazing. I keep the brightness at 50. Is it bright? Yes. Do I think it adds to immersion for intentionally bright scenes? Also yes.
I paid to have Classy Calibrations drive out to my home in KC and calibrate two TVs. Although it wasn't "cheap", his prices were more reasonable than what Value Electronics has listed on their website. As for my experience with his calibration, even with my Sony TV in its most calibrated out-of-the-box setting (Cinema Pro), the post-calibration difference was immediately noticeable. My fiancee who couldn't care less what the TV looks like even admitted that she didn't expect the TV to look so much better. I would not at all describe the TV at all as looking lifeless and now I HIGHLY recommend the service to anyone who cares about picture quality on their TVs.
Love this testimonial
I don't agree at all.
You can calibrate your tv all you want . Does nothing for processing. And you literally can just do it yourself manually and end up with a much more accurate tv to your liking. Using your Preset Picture modes isn't calibration.
They are just setting that are there because 98% of the population isn't gonna go in manually and adjust contrast ,color, or white balance.
So if you are comparing Factory preloaded settings options vs Professional calibration sure you will see more of a difference.
But if you know what you are doing by eye and it looks good. Professional calibrations are miniscule and a waste of money.
Stop trying to push such a nonsense useless service.
It's like buying those BS extended aftermarket car warranties. Might as well throw that $400 in the trash.
@@damontroch4765 I don’t agree entirely with your point. As I said, I had mine in its most “accurate” picture mode and but I still wasn’t totally happy with it. The color white, for instance, was too green and there was a subtle purple hue to some darker skin tones. Any small adjustments I would make with the onscreen controls inevitably caused some other compromise I couldn’t correct. Now, I agree that 90% of people (including my fiancée) would be just fine with how it looked by default, but I think those who really care about their tv looking as accurate as possible, and have the funds, should absolutely invest in a calibration. There is no way to do what a professional calibrator does with thousands of dollars worth of equipment and test patterns with just the naked eye. But if you’re not after accuracy and you just want an image that looks good enough, then yeah, fiddle around with some settings and call it a day. But in my case, the difference was more than what I even imagined and my fiancée could appreciate the difference which says a lot.
@@damontroch4765 but how do you calibrate by eye? I calibrate my PC monitors for printing of my pictures.
@@damontroch4765 People really do need to ask themselves, "Do I want an accurate/reference-aligned color presentation or do I want a fun color presentation that looks good to my eyes? Either one is fine, but please don't EVER confuse one with the other - and worse yet, please don't ever try and pass one off as the other because those two things have NOTHING at all to do with one another and they are VERY different things entirely.
Nice video, Caleb. About the 4,000 nit question-I find myself explaining to friends and family how brightness is used in HDR, and guess what? They still don’t get it. Maybe when we have nothing but HDR content to stream, then they’ll go like, right! I see.
My analogy for tv brightness and more nits is obvious, but - the sun. It doesn't take up your whole field of vision and you generally don't even look directly at it. But that (much much higher) power makes everything else you can see "realistic" - the colours are pure and natural. Likewise having the capability to go super bright with your tv gives highlights the punch they need as Caleb says but regular colour purity is better too. Even if your tv was capable of the brightness of the sun it wouldn't somehow blind you (unless for the sake of argument it was a picture of the sun haha). Dark stuff would still be dark. Light bulbs would only be as bright as actual light bulbs. But colour volume, purity and accuracy would be so much better. It would just be able to handle anything the creators throw at it. Resolution is similar.
Who's looking at your TV? You are. Are you happy with it? If the answer's yes you've calibrated it to your preference, job done 👍
Great explanations and very helpful! Way to go!!
Anyone else remember Caleb saying that he’d be releasing a lot of content covering Laser TV’s earlier this year? Me too😔
I have an 85 inch TCLQM8 I adjust the picture constantly depending upon what 4K movie we are playing
Ratings just did a post on edge lit tv's and high brightness and issues with damage from high brightness causing heat damage.
I keep light sensor on for sdr content at night because yeah it's headache inducing on my x93l. Leave it off when watching anything else
They F.Y.I. I watch every video 😂 plus I love the blooper clip at the end 😂...
So my wife has an office spot with a decent size, chunky desk. We want to wall mount a TV above the desk, but realistically it doesn't need to be and kinda shouldn't be bigger than like 43". I don't want to cheap out, but it also seems like the decent options in that size are expensive OLEDs. It will be used as a second office monitor also for streaming TV services. Any decent options around $500? Bonus points if Best Buy caries it as we have a $100 gift card from our Fridge purchase.
Question for you and any of your close friends. The Polk Reserve speakers are within my budget. In that or a really close price range are they the Best I can get. Best sounding for movies between 75DB-- 95 DB and music ❓❓ I wish there was a store in Southern California I could drive to and audition. 🙏
Print out the calibration settings? How about taking pictures of them with your camera phone?
after you get the settings, how do you execute them? I thought calibration required turning screws and such with special tools?
Hey Caleb, I don't need a TV to be blindingly bright to enjoy content.😊
Awesome info, thanks, Caleb!
Because one nit is roughly equal to 3.426 lumens, you can compare the brightness of different devices by multiplying or dividing the values as needed. For example, a TV rated at 4,000 nits emits light that's roughly equivalent to a projector rated at 13,704 lumens. to put that in perspective welders, which requires robust eye protection, starts at 10,000 lumens and goes up to 100,000 lumens! However welding arcs give off radiation over a broad range of wavelengths, including ultraviolet (UV) radiation (200 to 400 nm), visible light (400 to 700 nm), and infrared (IR) radiation (700 to 1,400 nm).
*me squinting at the sun in a movie on my 600 nits Hisense in a dark room* "Ahhhhhhhhh, it buuuurrrrnnnnss"
600 nits isn't bright at all
@@ericswanson9773 it’s bright if your eyes aren’t adjusted to it
@@ericswanson9773It is when the room is dark
I agree with the brightness being too much. I have all 2022 or newer, and all I do is turn the brightness down.
I don't know if they're TOO bright, but I think brightness is an overvalued and over-marketed stat. I'll take the better contrast, color, and pure blacks of a QD-OLED/OLED over any of these LED techs. So much so, I just bought a 65" A95L.
Did you get your A95L calibrated?
@@richiejrich No, I just got it on Thursday. I don't think I have any calibrations local to me. :(
@@CybrSlydr Aw that's a bummer. I recently had my 75" Sony X950K and Sony A8F OLED calibrated and I'm so happy i spent the money to do it. There are calibrators who travel. Either way enjoy your new tv!
@@richiejrich the A95L doesn't need calibration. Your Sony's do!
but there are now QDOLEDS and regular OLEDs that are brighter and as contrasty as the A95L that is now old technology!
Hey Caleb!!! About a 2 year subscriber now. Love all the videos and advice. Do you have any idea why with my 2024 QM8 that no matter what picture settings I use including color temp and extra processing, low power mode looks best in most situations. That's supposedly the worst mode, but even with the same exact settings in every aspect low power looks magnitudes better than even movie mode
I would never pay for a calibration. I know what I like and can do it myself. I have used some recommended settings from some You tubers as a starting point. It may take some time getting there but it's not that hard. With Sony their presets are pretty darn good.
Love my HDR and the higher the nits the better (given that they handle it right).
I will swear by calibration. Yes it will look dimmer than the store mode but once your eyes get used it, it is much much better.
yah, the whole obsession with crazy levels of brightness is weird to me. My 65C9 Oled isn't that bright compared to the new ones but I use eye comfort ON most of the time because my eyes get fatigued lol
There’s only a few basic settings you should ever change to make your tv look good. Just the same with audio, just a one time calibration and enjoy! If you start obsessing over perfect video and audio you will drive yourself mad with graphs and settings lol
One thing I found with my new Samsung TV was a poor 4k picture and sound quality while watching internet streaming services, it wasn't the TV, it was the modem provided by my Internet provider, they switched it out with a new one and suddenly everything was perfect, so make sure you have an excellent video and audio source to calibrate your TV. 4K RUclips video's look stunning on my TV.
OMG - hairstyle in the throwback picture 😅
Yes they are, no need for, it crushes details
Just say a 4k nit screen allows colors to pop or have proper vibrance when necessary. That is really the goal.
What's a great soundbar that doesn't come with a sub or satellite speakers?
I'm in an apartment and want to just get something that's better than my LG G4 internal speakers. Thanks.
When it comes to calibration, I can care less about the directors intent. I care about my intent and my viewing experience.
I’m waiting for the a95m with the new pentonic chip
That will very likely be out in the 2025 model year from Sony, but they may very well go with a different naming convention there on that.
I love this series!
I want to see your reviews on the new Sharp Televisions you said you'd review them and well all I hear is silence??? My most intrest is Sharps new and first Oled Televisions, apparently Sharp makes there own oled displays. They don't use LG Displays....a first. And yet zero reviews.
Just wondering if Sharp TV reviews get a lot of views?
"On one side, you have folks swearing by calibration,"
On the other side you have filks swearing at calibration
i buy a high end tv every year and wife doesnt get it lol. to her they all look the same. thats until i bought the u8n and she seen the horrible backlight bleed and motion issues. had some little issues with sony b9 but not to bad. still sent back for g3 and couldnt be happier
I have my brightness setting on 1 for sdr on my sony Z9D 75 inch. It's bright enough.
Ah Caleb, but even specular highlights can be unpleasantly bright. I have the S95C, which gets bright, but not excessively so, and sometimes I have to squint and my eyes hurt. I don't think I need more of that. If I do want to watch a movie, I'll darken my room. But why wouldn't I?
Please do QN90D review mate
I just got a Sony Mini LED Bravia 7. (K75XR70) and I haven’t found a video on how to calibrate it! I feel like my pictures are off and don’t look as good!
You could try checking out the settings listed on Rtings
@@rogercordova1478see I did and it’s still really gradient or massively contrasted. Some episodes I can see the dark spots are slowly shifting colors between RGB.
@@rogercordova1478 I don’t know if my reply went through but I did. I followed their instructions down to a t and my videos/movies/pictures still looks like “crushed” black. Like I can see the black turning RGB when the lighting isn’t the best in a dark film.
It makes it look staticy
@@rogercordova1478 for some reason I keep typing out so much more and it’s not showing up. I followed their settings and my blacks aren’t dark but rather look like static. And I can see the tv show in low quality areas look like RGB
Why do you use that lighting that makes the left side of your face blue?
Could you all help me decide,
Hisense U8N (65”) new or LG C3 (48”) renewed, i have a budget range of 800 to 1100 dollars, if i could get C3 even 55” i would be delighted but i couldn’t find one, and i feel like 48” is a bit small, and the only con that i could think for hisense is that its not an oled.
I’d take he Hisense. It’s a huge screen size difference.
This is the earliest I’ve been to a DT vid. Keep up the great work my guy!
Thanks! And I will!
Idk man i really love the way quantum tvs soft calibration settings bring my tvs to life. Reference accurate calibration isnt for me
YES they are..i still have the latest model plasma from panasonic .65 inch 65vt60.and i still find thisl the best picture ever. Even if it is only 1080p. I dont like all those " too bright" screens. They never should have stoppen making those . Even a plasma at 1440p would be a better picture than many 4K LED TVS PS ita all about the dividend material. Most of the cable comp give a 1080i signal. Even 4 k material on uou tube looks fanrastic on my plasma. The lost the race because the would use too much Electric.. and we have to think about the carbon eh.......NOT.
Yes, it's a shame they discontinued making plasma TVs. No lcd or oled display can ever beat the organic natural look of plasma TVs.
A lot of content in UHD HDR is too Dark so you definitely need a Bright TV
Annoying that films and TV shows are filmed in badly lit scenes
And another problem is, that darker scenes, even in older 35mm movies, have reduced brightness in HDR. It like the made it darker, so the highlights, like lamps etc, pops even more...
The excess of brightness and the damage in my eyes, make me change my oled to a projector. My eyes are so relax and grateful now. I recommend this if you work wuth screens all day.
Great point. My eyes are sensitive to brightness as well and that is one reason I'm getting an OLED TV over the juiced up mini LEDs.
Yeah my old eyes can't take the blinding highlights of HDR anymore. I suffer from palinopsia, which causes afterimages in my vision, with bright objects. I have turn off peak brightness and toned down HDR to the point that my vision can deal with it. But I also mostly watch my projector instead. The projected image, is much easier and relaxing for my eyes.
I'll never understand why people like why anything that's over 2,000 Nits. I've seen what it looks like at over 2,000 nits and it actually hurts the hell out of my eyes and gives me a huge headache. I love how OLED for the most part keeps the nits under control and not do anything stupid and idiotic like Mini-LED are doing today
99% of all TV content except for Demo Videos is under 1000 nts.
Where is the Bravia 7 & 9 review 🤣
What does your eyes tell you either it’s brightness is great for you or not
I dont understand why television manufactures dont allow over the air or maybe the ability to use a thumbdrive to calibrate the television. Why must we always use a human to calibrate?
Very panel is individual, so same calibeation to same brand and same model does not fit to another similar TV. So without having measurement devices you can not do it online.
It is like going shooting field and call to frien and AKS where to move the barrel of the gun, if the people on the other side of phone says… move the fun two inch to the left and one down… you see not the target at all.. and aks about it. The other fellow say that he see the target in his target practice area… he gets bulls eye… you most likely hit someone car in the parking lot.
Watched because i walked into BJs and hated how bright the picture was on display model.
Unless you are a purist and want to view as the director intended, don't bother with a calibration. Plus the TV will drift over time, and another calibration will be needed a few years later.
She blinded me with science.
I spent way too much money on calibration equipment, yet can calibrate by eye much more to my satisfaction. Whites and grays shouldn't have even the remotest hint of visible blue or yellow, and colors should look realistic both in hue and intensity. Then the thought hit me: picture calibration is done for the benefit of eyes, not machines. So why not use the intended beneficiary as the ultimate judge of what is right for your screens?
our eyes acclimate to off colors. Robots and Ai does not!
Because that's not actually calibration at all. Calibration has ONE objective and ONE objective alone: to get something (in this case one or more MODES on your list of available display modes on your TV) as close to a known accurate REFERENCE point as humanly and technically possible. If that's not your objective than you aren't a candidate for calibration at all. If all you want to do is tweak the settings on your TV to the way YOU like them, then just go right ahead and do that and knock yourself out, but please don't in ANY way ever draw ANY kind of parallelism at all between that and an actual calibration - as they have nothing at all even remotely to do with each other.
@@michaelbeckerman7532 you are correct!
CALEB, WHERE'S THE BRAVIA 9 REVIEW?!
Half an hour away
@@RONderluck , just around the corner, mate!
4000 nits is necessary. I don’t know why people are still questioning that. All that it’s used for is to adjust the brightness when necessary for certain scenes example a scene with a bright blue sky in is very sunny outside and a person is laying under a tree, casting a shadow the TV will use the necessary brightness for the sun, the sky and the shadow. people just assumed that the 4000 nits is for the entire display. it only does that depending on whatever you’re watching.
Exactly. People need to understand that all more POTENTIAL brightness does is give you exactly what you want and need: more dynamic range - for when it is called for by the content. Also, keep in mind here that same dynamic range also allows you the ability to bring out shadow detail that otherwise would have been missed in an area of crushed blacks. Yes, you DO actually want a really POTENTIALLY bright display....even if you don't actually realize why yet.
QM8 2025 SHOULD BE 8K/144 , 8000 NITS !! FOR 1500$
I stopped using HDR on my OLED, just too bright. A bright shiny point in HDR is blinding and annoying.
They are way too bright, combined with the size I have mine on lower brightness than other people might or I get bad headaches and eye strain from watching, especially with brighter scenery.
Flat Panel TV manufacturers are hurting us with Glare, not so much the brightness. Your brain has to cancel out the glare of the kitchen lights or backyard before you can watch your content. If you're going to be turning off the lights anyway, why not just go with a MODERN projector?
Wait a sec, did you ask if it's ok to Caleb-erate or not your TV? Well that's not an option but a necessity it seems 😂
Some UHD discs, have highlights so damn bright, that I use my Panasonic ub820, to convert it to SDR 2020 instead. Keeping the improved colorspace, but letting my eyes be saved from the insane brightness.
This is not how 35mm looked in the theaters. So to me, these insane highlights, on old movies, are revisionism.
Lol definitely worth repeating how peak brightness affects viewing experience. It is in fact far more common to hear complaints from the opposite side of the exact same equation: HDR content is too dim on my 4000-nit TV. Just 3 days ago, when someone explained "DV doesn't mean it's brighter" to the complaint that "DV seems pretty dark" while "SDR is very bight and has nice colors," the OP asked: "So a tv with more than 1000 or sometimes 2000 nits doesn't have any advantages? That means I can never benefit from the 3500 nits in dv or HDR?" This pops up like every couple months. The only way to help people understand what that 3500 nits is good for is to repeat.
Sheen on a piece of fruit is silly.
I love sheen on a piece of fruit.
Silly is good.
I've yet to see a TV that was actually too bright all the time. That being said, HDR is not about being bright all the time, it's about being bright *when it needs to be*
Digital Trends PLEASE stop with the RUclips trend of adding pointless and distracting background music.
It’s not a trend. That’s how reviews work. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Plain and simple.
@@RONderluck No, it IS a trend. Reviews didn't used to have this distracting music and your suggestion would mean that I would miss content that I would like (apart from the music).
My local Best buy had 2 identical Sony's next to each other, same video playing, one calibrated, one not. The uncalibrated TV looked amazing, the calibrated TV looked hideous
In store the TV looks very different than in your home… because of different lights etc… so that does not say much. All in all TV stores try to punch light and colours to eleven to make the TV look more puncly.
What gets me are the people that get on their high horse about accuracy above someone setting their TV to what literally looks best and most enjoyable to them. If the owner is happy, in love even, then that's all that matters
Well…kind of. Except that to an uneducated viewer, it can be like saying you like a sugary drink more than something less overtly sweet. Until you realize that it’s ultimately too much. With TVs, cooler color temps and bluer whites and snappy contrast can make an immediate impression that the TV is doing something!…until you realize that grass isn’t phosphorent and shouldn’t be glowing. A calibrated picture is always more subtle. But the benefits show up over time as you begin to notice that an episode of your favorite show’s main locale suddenly has shadow details that were just a homogenous mass of undifferentiated black before the calibration. But ultimately, many people like fake colors and crunchy contrast more than subtlety and nuance. But more people go to McDonald’s than a Michelin star rated steakhouse too. So that means McDonald’s is better? I don’t think so, but ‘over 99 billion sold’ is all that matters I guess 🤷♂️
@@scottwallace1 yes it is all that matters because we aren't talking about literal health consequences here, it's just entertainment when it comes down to it.
I can appreciate nuance and subtlety, but shaming people for not spending hundreds of dollars more for subtlety when they're already enjoying themselves is just gatekeeping that's a waste of energy to take part in. Love what you love and spend your own dollars accordingly, and let others do the same. You can spread the gospel without preaching fire and brimstone... (and yes I realize this metaphor is incredibly hyperbolic).
Fortunately, we have a fixed reference point by which to judge all of these things. It's called reality. All you have to do to know what grass, bushes, shrubs and trees are REALLY supposed to look like is simply walk outside. THAT'S all the checking you ever need to do to know just how far "off" your TVs default color settings actually are, right out of the box. If you look at grasses in a scene and they literally look radioactive (all Samsung TVs and many LG TV's have this look by default) then you know there is a problem that clearly needs to be addressed. There are two ways you can fix that: 1.) Get your TV calibrated or 2.) actually do your homework BEFORE you run out to the store and just buy a TV based on the fact that it's the one that your co-worker told you to buy.
Honestly I’m of the opinion that TVs could get EVEN brighter. If you wanna stick to your 400 nit OLED screen go right ahead, but some of us have windows and glare to combat
Hey Caleb,nice shirt does it come in men's?
Luv my pink polo shirts.
@@paulbrown2422 Good for you.
Bottom line the standard isnt what most people want. Purest do. But most people like color and popping image.
Yeah, the problem there is that that quickly turns into an addiction for them and they simply don't know when to stop. They eventually can't help themselves. The solution there is to never even get them started down that "I want colors that pop" path in the first place. It never ends well. If they want to watch cartoons, then simply go watch cartoons, but don't watch regular TV and then do everything you can to turn THAT into a cartoon as well. No one wins in that scenario.
I don't like it when people mess with the settings and people's faces on the TV look beet red.