If there was anything like that, all the TVs would come with best picture settings by default. It's a subjective matter of taste for each customer, there isn't and can't be a general guideline for best settings.
@@Sas-wk9lj Recommended settings from people who know what they're doing are often helpful. We can argue the reasons for that, and I'd agree that no one's recommendations are going to work equally well for everyone, but it's often the case that they make things better for *many* people.
YES PLEASE 🙏! why don’t every TV just come with an ISF bright and Dark setting, like LG? Apple’s iPad Pro, M4 tendo OLED has no settings for display besides brightness and true tone and that’s the best display you’ll ever see.
I’m a calibrator. Thank you for illustrating the reason why we cannot share White Balance / Color Management settings. Also even your detailed/ justified explanation of basic settings reaffirms all that must be done and just how long it takes to perform a calibration. Annnnd all of this is prior to documentation which must be created so that your client has all of the calibrated settings at his/her fingertips if needed.
@@nelsoncheinquer3157 Hi Nelson, No, no business ties on the East Coast. I’m in Washington State. However if you have any questions I would be happy to answer. I’ve been in the AV industry for twenty six years and have been a Calibrator for eighteen.
In the old days my Panasonic plasma V series, i used CNET recommended calibration. 2 pages, the picture and color accuracy was fantastic and flat. Different technology I know but I guess nothing like that available for a woled like G4?
@@tomdemeo2708 On average I calibrate two televisions per week. Often the same display. The Sony A95L. Final results have shown White Balance values are almost always different. This is due to panel variance. It was the same situation with Plasma as well. Point being your television may have looked “better” or more improved than it had previously but I’m almost certain it would have still shown potentially substantial errors, and could not be classified as accurate.
Thank you for the thorough picture setting rundown. This will save a lot of people a lot of grief & may prevent them from returning a perfectly good TV that just needed to have eco mode turned off.
Thank you Caleb, fantastic timing. I just purchased a 55" C4 a couple of weeks ago and I now intend to use your advice and change settings. As always your information is fantastic, once again, thank you.
That was very informative after 3 years of messing around with my2021 Sony OLED Bravia a80 j I turned everything off in cinema mode and boosted up the color to medium after many nights fiddling around thinking having something on auto or manual is the best way while I was doing more motion flow adjusting or adjusting this or that that than actually watching let's say "Prometheus".. now in one swoop everything is as clear as sharp as it's going to be.
Amazing video. Thank you! Never heard of Tablo before and loved the calibration explanation. Each panel is different even for the same model, and your environment can affect it. This is why the diff between daytime and dark room isn’t just brightness. Thank you for explaining and providing useful settings and explanations.
the burn in was from gaming, i think. the center being discolored due to a constant green/ red background (think grassy fields or blood soaked halls) the top right looks like a minimap or mission box, and box below it for teammates or squad info. the bottom center looks like the area a gun would bob from playing for hours on end, or where your MMO avatar would stand, blocking the usually green/ red background. Hell, might even be a driving game? the 'S' in the top right looks "driver sim" like, and the map on th top corner, steering wheel in the bottom center moving back and forth.
I love how even after he clearly explained why he wasn't going to make specialized TV setting guides on a model by model basis, and gave a great universal guide, people immediately took to the comments requesting he make a guide for their TVs again.
This is a proof that people don't really listen to anyone/anything. Utter lack of bi-directional communication. Everyone is just talking, no one listening and thereby the noise pollution.
I agree that we isn't go to do this per model, but he did offer to so so per Brand, which is what I think people really want. He even offered to do this given adequate interest. But he will limit the response to the things that should result in a more accurate picture. I and many others really dislike the motion smoothing settings, finding that they just end up looking weird. These are called different things on different sets, and setting these for the various modes of the TV can be tricky. These are the things that could be customized for each brand, making it clearer and quicker for his viewers to set their TV up.
the internet has been dumbed down for the masses to bring it to everybody, when it was originally filled with people who had to figure things out in SOME fashion along the way. now these new plebs take being spoon fed exactly what they want or nothing at all.
@@Sas-wk9lj to be fair, i did hear him say this and i flat out disagree since i've seen evidence to the contrary. he claims that all tv's need to be calibrated, which to be fair has use cases if a display has changed performance over time or whatnot, but i think within the margin of quality control of the displays tested are certainly within a good enough range to be preferred even over basic "Warm" colour presets. i have followed settings for my monitor and TV from someone who has already done calibration, and it is very clearly much better result than Movie mode and Warm 50 / warm 1 or 2. on my computer monitor, Warm was still very clearly too blue before following someone's settings which is within the margin of pinpoint accuracy to my eye. on my TV it seemed like i needed something between Warm 1 and 2, as 1 wasn't red enough and 2 seemed too red. this is also one major reason why "Warm", while i think is still a good baseline recommendation based on the usually true assumption that most displays are too blue, i personally feel is still not as accurate as someone could get following calibrated settings based around a measurement of consistent product quality rather than an assumption. if you actually think about it, warm 50, or warm 1 and 2 are incredibly vague ranges of "increased red colours" with no specific indication of exactly how much it's being changed and how much extra warmth it needs, instead only working on the assumption that "most displays are too blue by default", which to be fair is true, but is only a very rough guide for colour/white balance accuracy. i think that the rough Warm setting makes your display less accurate than if you did in fact follow someone's calibrated settings on a tv that's only sliightly different than yours based on quality control. i do think Warm is more accurate than Standard on almost all displays, but in my experience, even someone elses properly calibrated settings is very clearly even more accurate than a generic "Warm" filter... with all this said, i don't blame him for not posting calibration results as i wouldn't want the responsibility of potentially having tested a very off quality display. i do think that someone that tests maybe a few though and gets fairly similar results should just post one of them. he does actually say at 16:44 that he's not adjusting for accuracy, but rather "going for something you like". this to me is a statement avoiding responsibility because it is well known that Warm does indeed bring white balance to a more accurate level for most TV's which are too blue, however "more accurate" obviously isn't a goal of complete accuracy which is probably why he never claimed to be aiming for accuracy even if that's what he's doing.
2:00 interesting. My LG C7 (2017) has a very similar smudging and the a hard skewing towards Green (center screen yellows look green). TV watched mostly streaming and movies from bluray/4k source. Also past its 10,000hrs. Haven't found a way to get rid of this. Also, lots of lower-bar burn is slightly visible; mostly from stream services (i could guess)
Thanks for the burn-in replay and analysis. The "corrective" video does not appear to have any effect on the problem. Here are a couple of additional data points: 1- the burn-in (for lack of a better description) did start after we move from CA to Chicago but it started small and bloomed to blob we see today. The TV was packed in its original box which showed no sign of damage. 2- Using an infrared thermometer I measured various spots on the screen. Using a 3 x 3 grid the top row (A1-A3) was the coolest at just over 100 degrees. B1 and B3 were a little warmer at 105 degrees. C1 and C3 were about 109 degrees. B2 was 119 degrees and C2 was 125 degrees. These are not outrageous temperatures but I wonder if the electronics package could be cooking the screen? Thanks.
Thx for the update... I posted today that I have the identical problem on my 55" OLED B9 puchased Dec '19... Kinda weird the photo in the video looks like it was a pic of my screen!! Like you mentioned in this update, mine also started out small and grew to about the same size as your "blob"... I think you may be onto something with the temp readings... I never watched just news or talking heads, there was a good mix of movies and evening primetime dramas, etc... as well... Being retired though, the TV got many more hours on it than what is probably normal as I am home most days and have the TV going all the time in the background... As I mentioned in my post today, it has been moved to the bedroom and a 55" G3 has taken it's place... I won't be leaving the new one on as much, but nearly 5 years out of a TV isn't terrible, I've had worse from other brands over the years... Had a top of the line (1984) Sony 27" NTSC/PAL CRT TV that lasted 20 years before crapping out... You just never know!! Please keep me posted if you figure out anything on the "blob" and I will do the same... Thx, JB
My LG OLED 65 E7 is doing the same thing. this due to the age of the TV (2017). The problem is an issue with the red pixels where it makes yellow look green..
I'm getting so much from your channel! I'm trying to learn how to make my tv picture as good as I can and not look like I just wasted my money! so Yes please share, I just purchased a new Sony bravia XR80C tv to replace my 2009 LG plasma. You ROCK
I bought a Sony A80K when you were reviewing and absoluty love it. Havent changed any settings and am completely content with the picture quality out of the box.
Regarding Color temp: I’ve told people that if they get used to cooler settings, changing it to the accurate warmer mode doesn’t look good immediately, as it looks like you’re adding a yellow tint to the image. But when your eyes adjust after a bit, you can see how the previous setting looked too blue.
i always tell clients to live with it for 48 hours before swapping back when i set up a new TV, and set it o cinema with motion smoothing off and eco off
This is why for a long time I hated TV content creators. They had your flawed mindset that warm color temp is always better. *it's not* No amount of waiting will change how some people eyes are.
This is not always true, for example some LG TVs measure warmer than D65 at Warm 50, therefore Warm 50 would actually be too warm and not some magic number to set it to. You also have the influence of the ambient light around the human eyes that are perceiving the screen. How come nobody talks about calibrating it to these as well? BOTH of these factors favor colder white, unless you are a teenage in a pitch black room.
For the C8 that is full screen burn in. This is typical wear burn in from usage. My B7 has the same issue. The center screen gets the most usage so you'll get discoloration there. It's not as distracting as a image burned in. But its the same process.
Great video. Recently bought LG G4 and other videos I watched recommended Cinema as well. I have been using cinema but a little botherd by the yellow tint guess you call that warm temperature. After watching this video I dropped to W30 and I am so much more pleased. Thanks again..
Each maker video please. I thought he was going to breeze over stuff, but he went for it. This was awesome. Also, Caleb is looking fit. It’s not just me noticing this, right?
WOW!! The screen shots of the first OLED TV you showed looked like someone snuck into my house and took pictures of my TV!! I have an LG 55" OLED B9 purchased in Dec 19... All was good until about 6 mos ago and I noticed a green bloom in several spots around the middle of the screen... The reason I call them blooms is they have bloomed into spots nearly identical to the ones shown in the vid... After almost 5 yrs, I do have a bit of horizonal burn in along the bottom which I realize is a completely seperate problem... Yesterday, that TV was relegated to the bedroom and a LG 55" OLED G3 took it's place. I also wondered what I had done to cause the blooming... I can definitely rule out any trauma to the screen as it was unpacked, placed on a stand and never moved for the entire time I have had it...
12:00 - Caleb: Please give your picture settings for 65 and 75" A80L and 55" X80CK. Being a SONY guy I'm sure you have these down pat...Thanks so much! Love this channel.
Well guess what? I was messing around with my new C4 (65”) delivered today and had my iPad on RUclips looking for settings and I saw your channel. Yes, I’m already subscribed. The picture out of the box was very good, but your setting recommendations are amazing. I’m upgrading from a very nice 55” Sony X90J. Thanks.
To be honest I do think what we are seeing is burn-in. It's just caused by a TON of varied content. Burn-in is simply the affected pixels having been used more than the rest. First of all, I can see multiple shapes. In the top right corner(ish) is an S. Then there is a red square at the right about half height. Especially at the bottom there seem to be a couple of squares... if you look closely, you can see a grid. It seems to be the layout of the smart TV? Then in the center, what colors are used up, so that the yellow-green turns green with a blueish hint? Yup, red. What has a higher amount of red compared to green or blue? Yup, skin. Now, what programming tends to have faces mostly sitting in the center? News. I think the family had the TV set to the news for a long time (or talking heads RUclipsrs? I mean, just look at the framing of You Asked... he could almost have killed his TV by watching too much of you, Caleb). Also, keep in mind that the settings weren't changed from default. So it was in dynamic mode all the time, which gives additional juice to colors as well as brightness. So unlike TVs that are in filmmaker, this one was pushed hard. A lot. With relatively varied content (hence no logos (or perhaps the logo "dejuicer" did a good job)).
I do agree with some of your info but I do think this is due to quality issues from the panel which shows after a couple of years. My twinbrother have the same problem (b6, plays a lot but varied) and my friend (b7, plays only a little and watched varied content). I might even starting to see some problems with my father in laws TV (b7, varied content, no gaming). Somehow the pixel "wears out" so skintones gets a greenish look and they "wear out" faster then they should... Maiby because of more heat in the center? And like you said: faces are normally in the middle of the screen. This is probably hard to avoid and has, like I wrote, something to do with the quality of the panel. "Avoid static images" "varied content" is in this case only "buzzwords" so we as a consumer feels that we are in control when we actually aren't...
My LG OLED developed a large cool bloom in the centre of the screen. LG weren’t happy about it but they did replace the screen under warranty. The replacement screen has not had any issues over the last two years.
Caleb and crew - big fan here. Love the content. Will add a bit abt Tablo. Our fam has one… nice product but has limitations. ATSC 1.0 (not 3.0). Works on devices on same WiFi network - not when outside of home. Tablo app doesn’t work on LG nor AppleTV streaming boxes. It also has waaaaaay too many updates and we often reset. All stuff well noted on Tablo website and service team is nice. Thx again for great show!
I sold TVs for a couple of years on the weekends at Best Buy for one of the major brands. The story this guy tells about Costco's Allstate warranty is very familiar. It is free with the TV purchases at Costco, but you end up getting your money's worth. I dealt with several customers who had their TVs die right before the Allstate insurance would run out and then couldn't get a replacement. I never saw that issue with the Best Buy "protection plan." I even saw customers get TVs replaced that were a couple of weeks outside of the warranty. It's almost impossible to find a calibrator that will come out for a consumer friendly price anymore. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but rarely is calibration going to be worth it for the average person.
Yes, please go into detail on settings for Sony. Also, I know this will make a lot more work for you, but if you could make a list or something like on the steps so I could print it out would be awesome.
Absolutely love these videos, super helpful!! I understand that the LG C4 is having some issues with game mode peak brightness being reduced - would you have any tips for optimising brightness settings for the LG C4 game mode? Its the only thing keeping me from buying the TV 😅
My friends LG C series 65” had same thing. On our move night we noticed a green discoloration in the center like that not as bad. He bought a new one but now I’m thinking a manufacturing problem.
I have an LG C8 in the UK and I had this issue. Contacted LG and they sent someone out to take it apart and put in a new screen. No issues since. It was about 5 years old when it happened.
Great settings tip. Would be awesome if you also covered Game mode setting suggestions. Especially interested in getting the best out of game mode on the G4 but general LG OLED much appreciated!
Great setup video. We bought a Sony 2024 K55XR70 mini led a couple of months ago. Could you do a similar video for the Sony. I have a fear of mucking up the works while adjusting things. Really enjoying you videos. You have a very down to earth presentation style. Thank you
Thanks Caleb for all the great videos! Purchased the Hisense U8N , 55 inch a week ago. Having a bad time getting the picture/color/brightness etc correct. Would love to see the settings for the Hisense U8N ( aka U88N)
Would love to see a PREFERRED SETTINGS on the LG G4 line up. Mine is a 77" G$ bit I am sure others would benefit from your recommendations from this particular model regardless of the size. Settings menu is the one that is more troublesome for most of us. Thanks ahead of time.
I have been using tablo and upgraded to the new version. I have an antenna that picks up 4 channels and 50 or so tablo fast streaming channels that I can record. Great product at a reasonable price. Free programming also.
Hope you can go through the same setting example with the new Sony Bravia TVs of 2024, especially the Bravia 8 OLED, which you have not reviewed in the channel so far. Thanks!
Regarding burn-in, what does the TV community say about ipad Pros Tandem OLED? 1000 nits SDR and many many hours per day with the screen turned on. Video about this would be cool. 7:46 Speaking of settings and ipad. Should auto brightness be turned on or off for HDR on tandem oled? I've used HdTVtest method of turning that and TrueTone off for my iPhone 13 Pro. Im confused abou peak brightness being reported as lower with manual brightness. What to do Dolby Vision in the Apple TV app on iPad
We're gearing up for football season! Already have a Samsung S95B though so we're not looking to upgrade. It looks say WAY better now than it did before we went OLED
Would appreciate a “best” settings for Hisense TVs especially the 75U88N I know it has a different panel then the rest. Thank you for all the advise and expertise you provide.
But, Caleb, recommending to disable even cinematic motion precessing may result in 3:2 pulldown judder. TVs that can't do straight 5:5 pulldown need motion precessing to reconstruct original 24p motion.
I know the c7s had an issue with pixel screen calibration because of a manufacturing defect that caused incorrect LUT values I think they called it that caused a ghost rectangle to appear in the middle of the screen. The smudging effect isn't the same effect but might be of similar problem where the pixel refresh cycle hasn't been calibrating the pixel voltages correctly.
Caleb, how come you don't mention about choosing the custom option when changing the settings on the tv? You can always revert back to the default settings in the custom profile similar to using an equalizer in audio. I tried the movie mode or the cool settings but it's too dull looking and darker looking. I always choose the vivid or dynamic picture mode that offers the most color saturation while being the brightest since I'm going for the most color saturation while being the brightest settings possible. I treat the displays settings like turning the volume to the max on the volume knob but have it apply to the display settings or all the sliders maxed out to there highests settings on purpose. Anything with red looks orange and anything with blue looks almost purple. I have a 65 inch samsung curve qled 4k tv from 2017 and I intentionally have the backlight sliders maxed out and brightness sliders maxed out and local dimming settings to the lowest because I want to have the brightest display possible. There is no option to turn off local dimming so I just choose to have local dimming on the lowest settings instead.
Tablo works great but you need to add an external type A hard drive I have the 4 tuner with a 1 GB hard drive ran about 200 bucks for the tablo and hard drive
1 upvote for showing us basic setting changes for every brand of TV
I agree lg cx
Yes please go into detail for best TV settings for each model! Thank you
If there was anything like that, all the TVs would come with best picture settings by default. It's a subjective matter of taste for each customer, there isn't and can't be a general guideline for best settings.
@@Sas-wk9lj Recommended settings from people who know what they're doing are often helpful. We can argue the reasons for that, and I'd agree that no one's recommendations are going to work equally well for everyone, but it's often the case that they make things better for *many* people.
For each model in detail?
How greedy can you human be?
YES PLEASE 🙏! why don’t every TV just come with an ISF bright and Dark setting, like LG? Apple’s iPad Pro, M4 tendo OLED has no settings for display besides brightness and true tone and that’s the best display you’ll ever see.
This would be a great help and please do this for Hisense
I’m a calibrator.
Thank you for illustrating the reason why we cannot share White Balance / Color Management settings.
Also even your detailed/ justified explanation of basic settings reaffirms all that must be done and just how long it takes to perform a calibration. Annnnd all of this is prior to documentation which must be created so that your client has all of the calibrated settings at his/her fingertips if needed.
Hi, do you know any calibration service providers near Boston, MA?
@@nelsoncheinquer3157
Hi Nelson,
No, no business ties on the East Coast. I’m in Washington State. However if you have any questions I would be happy to answer. I’ve been in the AV industry for twenty six years and have been a Calibrator for eighteen.
In the old days my Panasonic plasma V series, i used CNET recommended calibration. 2 pages, the picture and color accuracy was fantastic and flat. Different technology I know but I guess nothing like that available for a woled like G4?
@@tomdemeo2708
On average I calibrate two televisions per week. Often the same display. The Sony A95L. Final results have shown White Balance values are almost always different. This is due to panel variance. It was the same situation with Plasma as well. Point being your television may have looked “better” or more improved than it had previously but I’m almost certain it would have still shown potentially substantial errors, and could not be classified as accurate.
The TV setting help for every brand. You’re awesome thank you so much.
Thanks! Sony Bravia oled settings run through would be awesome!
Indeed 👍
Another vote for this!
custom or professional is best
Agreed
Excellent walk through on setting up new tv. Thx.
Thank you for the thorough picture setting rundown. This will save a lot of people a lot of grief & may prevent them from returning a perfectly good TV that just needed to have eco mode turned off.
Thank you for the last section, Caleb's setup for best TV picture. Request that this be done on a popular Sony TV like the X90L.
Yes please, I have an X90J, I’m assuming most settings would be similar
@@proudlynerdy0912 I have an X90J as well and also assume the menu layout is close enough between the 2 Sonys.
pretty sure caleb has a video specifically addressing the SOny X95J, i have a X95J and used the settings from caleb
Sony X90J here as well. 😂
Thank you Caleb, fantastic timing. I just purchased a 55" C4 a couple of weeks ago and I now intend to use your advice and change settings.
As always your information is fantastic, once again, thank you.
Thanks man, this was super helpful as was your recommendation for the LG C3. We got the 77" for a great price and couldn't be happier.
I would definitely love to see the settings how-to settings for more models! Thanks for all the great content.
Yes please do settings for different brands. TY!
That was very informative after 3 years of messing around with my2021 Sony OLED Bravia a80 j I turned everything off in cinema mode and boosted up the color to medium after many nights fiddling around thinking having something on auto or manual is the best way while I was doing more motion flow adjusting or adjusting this or that that than actually watching let's say "Prometheus".. now in one swoop everything is as clear as sharp as it's going to be.
Not only did I learn a lot from your video today, but also increased my vocab knowledge “pedantic” 🎉💯
Amazing video. Thank you! Never heard of Tablo before and loved the calibration explanation. Each panel is different even for the same model, and your environment can affect it. This is why the diff between daytime and dark room isn’t just brightness. Thank you for explaining and providing useful settings and explanations.
the burn in was from gaming, i think. the center being discolored due to a constant green/ red background (think grassy fields or blood soaked halls) the top right looks like a minimap or mission box, and box below it for teammates or squad info.
the bottom center looks like the area a gun would bob from playing for hours on end, or where your MMO avatar would stand, blocking the usually green/ red background. Hell, might even be a driving game? the 'S' in the top right looks "driver sim" like, and the map on th top corner, steering wheel in the bottom center moving back and forth.
Definitely not a steering wheel … seems like a lot of throwing stuff at the wall.
My friend had exact problem, doesn’t play any games 0
Yes, I think if you did that for best setting on multiple brand TVs, it would help. Or put on the website.
Great tips on basic tv calibration. Would love to see one on Sony Bravia OLED (A8F). Thank you!
I love how even after he clearly explained why he wasn't going to make specialized TV setting guides on a model by model basis, and gave a great universal guide, people immediately took to the comments requesting he make a guide for their TVs again.
This is a proof that people don't really listen to anyone/anything. Utter lack of bi-directional communication. Everyone is just talking, no one listening and thereby the noise pollution.
I agree that we isn't go to do this per model, but he did offer to so so per Brand, which is what I think people really want. He even offered to do this given adequate interest. But he will limit the response to the things that should result in a more accurate picture. I and many others really dislike the motion smoothing settings, finding that they just end up looking weird. These are called different things on different sets, and setting these for the various modes of the TV can be tricky. These are the things that could be customized for each brand, making it clearer and quicker for his viewers to set their TV up.
the internet has been dumbed down for the masses to bring it to everybody, when it was originally filled with people who had to figure things out in SOME fashion along the way. now these new plebs take being spoon fed exactly what they want or nothing at all.
@@Sas-wk9lj to be fair, i did hear him say this and i flat out disagree since i've seen evidence to the contrary. he claims that all tv's need to be calibrated, which to be fair has use cases if a display has changed performance over time or whatnot, but i think within the margin of quality control of the displays tested are certainly within a good enough range to be preferred even over basic "Warm" colour presets.
i have followed settings for my monitor and TV from someone who has already done calibration, and it is very clearly much better result than Movie mode and Warm 50 / warm 1 or 2.
on my computer monitor, Warm was still very clearly too blue before following someone's settings which is within the margin of pinpoint accuracy to my eye. on my TV it seemed like i needed something between Warm 1 and 2, as 1 wasn't red enough and 2 seemed too red.
this is also one major reason why "Warm", while i think is still a good baseline recommendation based on the usually true assumption that most displays are too blue, i personally feel is still not as accurate as someone could get following calibrated settings based around a measurement of consistent product quality rather than an assumption.
if you actually think about it, warm 50, or warm 1 and 2 are incredibly vague ranges of "increased red colours" with no specific indication of exactly how much it's being changed and how much extra warmth it needs, instead only working on the assumption that "most displays are too blue by default", which to be fair is true, but is only a very rough guide for colour/white balance accuracy.
i think that the rough Warm setting makes your display less accurate than if you did in fact follow someone's calibrated settings on a tv that's only sliightly different than yours based on quality control. i do think Warm is more accurate than Standard on almost all displays, but in my experience, even someone elses properly calibrated settings is very clearly even more accurate than a generic "Warm" filter...
with all this said, i don't blame him for not posting calibration results as i wouldn't want the responsibility of potentially having tested a very off quality display. i do think that someone that tests maybe a few though and gets fairly similar results should just post one of them.
he does actually say at 16:44 that he's not adjusting for accuracy, but rather "going for something you like". this to me is a statement avoiding responsibility because it is well known that Warm does indeed bring white balance to a more accurate level for most TV's which are too blue, however "more accurate" obviously isn't a goal of complete accuracy which is probably why he never claimed to be aiming for accuracy even if that's what he's doing.
A suppository may help you.
Yes absolutely. Just purchased the QM8 and would like to have some notes to make changes. Thanks!
2:00 interesting. My LG C7 (2017) has a very similar smudging and the a hard skewing towards Green (center screen yellows look green). TV watched mostly streaming and movies from bluray/4k source. Also past its 10,000hrs. Haven't found a way to get rid of this. Also, lots of lower-bar burn is slightly visible; mostly from stream services (i could guess)
Same problem here LG OLED 55B7P…never has been hitting or watched steady content…
Thanks for the burn-in replay and analysis. The "corrective" video does not appear to have any effect on the problem. Here are a couple of additional data points: 1- the burn-in (for lack of a better description) did start after we move from CA to Chicago but it started small and bloomed to blob we see today. The TV was packed in its original box which showed no sign of damage. 2- Using an infrared thermometer I measured various spots on the screen. Using a 3 x 3 grid the top row (A1-A3) was the coolest at just over 100 degrees. B1 and B3 were a little warmer at 105 degrees. C1 and C3 were about 109 degrees. B2 was 119 degrees and C2 was 125 degrees. These are not outrageous temperatures but I wonder if the electronics package could be cooking the screen? Thanks.
What content did you use the TV for? My guess would be talking heads... RUclips, news, ...?
Thx for the update... I posted today that I have the identical problem on my 55" OLED B9 puchased Dec '19... Kinda weird the photo in the video looks like it was a pic of my screen!! Like you mentioned in this update, mine also started out small and grew to about the same size as your "blob"... I think you may be onto something with the temp readings... I never watched just news or talking heads, there was a good mix of movies and evening primetime dramas, etc... as well... Being retired though, the TV got many more hours on it than what is probably normal as I am home most days and have the TV going all the time in the background... As I mentioned in my post today, it has been moved to the bedroom and a 55" G3 has taken it's place... I won't be leaving the new one on as much, but nearly 5 years out of a TV isn't terrible, I've had worse from other brands over the years... Had a top of the line (1984) Sony 27" NTSC/PAL CRT TV that lasted 20 years before crapping out... You just never know!! Please keep me posted if you figure out anything on the "blob" and I will do the same... Thx, JB
My LG OLED 65 E7 is doing the same thing. this due to the age of the TV (2017). The problem is an issue with the red pixels where it makes yellow look green..
I have a 65 inch U8N and would certainly appreciate a run through of how you would set it up
check rtings calibration page for U8N
Yes, please do it for every brand. Thanks for the vidieo!!
Samsung 77S90C here. I’d love to hear your tips on it regarding basic “”””calibration””””. Thank you for your great content.
I've seen how to set the settings in other videos along the way, but having them all in one video for easy reference would be great!
I'm getting so much from your channel! I'm trying to learn how to make my tv picture as good as I can and not look like I just wasted my money! so Yes please share, I just purchased a new Sony bravia XR80C tv to replace my 2009 LG plasma. You ROCK
I have the 75 inch U8N, and would also appreciate a set up run through.
Great job! Please do basic settings for Samsung OLED 2024 (s95d). Thanks
Pls do settings for TCL QM8 98 inch. Thanks.
Caleb, you absolutely rock man! Would be awesome if you could post your settings specific to each TV.
Thank you for doing this! TCL settings would be great!
Yes, please go into detail for the best TV settings for other models such as the one I own, the Sony Bravia A80K. Thanks!
Really liked the picture settings runthrough at the end, and I would definitely like to see one for other brands like Samsung, Sony, Hisense, etc.
I bought a Sony A80K when you were reviewing and absoluty love it. Havent changed any settings and am completely content with the picture quality out of the box.
Samsung television settings would be great.
Appreciate what you do for those of us less knowledgeable about these things.
Thanks,
Jim
Regarding Color temp: I’ve told people that if they get used to cooler settings, changing it to the accurate warmer mode doesn’t look good immediately, as it looks like you’re adding a yellow tint to the image. But when your eyes adjust after a bit, you can see how the previous setting looked too blue.
i always tell clients to live with it for 48 hours before swapping back when i set up a new TV, and set it o cinema with motion smoothing off and eco off
This is why for a long time I hated TV content creators. They had your flawed mindset that warm color temp is always better. *it's not* No amount of waiting will change how some people eyes are.
@@AntonioCunningham lol ok
This is not always true, for example some LG TVs measure warmer than D65 at Warm 50, therefore Warm 50 would actually be too warm and not some magic number to set it to. You also have the influence of the ambient light around the human eyes that are perceiving the screen. How come nobody talks about calibrating it to these as well? BOTH of these factors favor colder white, unless you are a teenage in a pitch black room.
I think helping people with settings is a very important useful tool that can help you grow your audience as well. Definitely a win win
Loved the settings part-would love to have it done on a Sony tv!
lol. I’m drinking a pumpkin spice latte as you mentioned it! Cheers! Loved the video.
For the C8 that is full screen burn in. This is typical wear burn in from usage. My B7 has the same issue. The center screen gets the most usage so you'll get discoloration there. It's not as distracting as a image burned in. But its the same process.
Excellent presentation, it would indeed be helpful to show settings for various manufacturers! Sony OLEDs in particular.
I ran a pixel cleaner from youtube on my LCD tv's and it worked great. Both tv's are ten + years old and the difference is awesome.
Great video. Recently bought LG G4 and other videos I watched recommended Cinema as well. I have been using cinema but a little botherd by the yellow tint guess you call that warm temperature. After watching this video I dropped to W30 and I am so much more pleased. Thanks again..
A basic settings guide for the Sony A95L would be great. Thank you.
Each maker video please.
I thought he was going to breeze over stuff, but he went for it. This was awesome.
Also, Caleb is looking fit. It’s not just me noticing this, right?
WOW!! The screen shots of the first OLED TV you showed looked like someone snuck into my house and took pictures of my TV!! I have an LG 55" OLED B9 purchased in Dec 19... All was good until about 6 mos ago and I noticed a green bloom in several spots around the middle of the screen... The reason I call them blooms is they have bloomed into spots nearly identical to the ones shown in the vid... After almost 5 yrs, I do have a bit of horizonal burn in along the bottom which I realize is a completely seperate problem... Yesterday, that TV was relegated to the bedroom and a LG 55" OLED G3 took it's place. I also wondered what I had done to cause the blooming... I can definitely rule out any trauma to the screen as it was unpacked, placed on a stand and never moved for the entire time I have had it...
Yes. Please go over best settings for Hisense U8N
12:00 - Caleb: Please give your picture settings for 65 and 75" A80L and 55" X80CK. Being a SONY guy I'm sure you have these down pat...Thanks so much! Love this channel.
Well guess what? I was messing around with my new C4 (65”) delivered today and had my iPad on RUclips looking for settings and I saw your channel. Yes, I’m already subscribed. The picture out of the box was very good, but your setting recommendations are amazing. I’m upgrading from a very nice 55” Sony X90J. Thanks.
To be honest I do think what we are seeing is burn-in. It's just caused by a TON of varied content. Burn-in is simply the affected pixels having been used more than the rest. First of all, I can see multiple shapes. In the top right corner(ish) is an S. Then there is a red square at the right about half height. Especially at the bottom there seem to be a couple of squares... if you look closely, you can see a grid. It seems to be the layout of the smart TV? Then in the center, what colors are used up, so that the yellow-green turns green with a blueish hint? Yup, red. What has a higher amount of red compared to green or blue? Yup, skin. Now, what programming tends to have faces mostly sitting in the center? News. I think the family had the TV set to the news for a long time (or talking heads RUclipsrs? I mean, just look at the framing of You Asked... he could almost have killed his TV by watching too much of you, Caleb). Also, keep in mind that the settings weren't changed from default. So it was in dynamic mode all the time, which gives additional juice to colors as well as brightness. So unlike TVs that are in filmmaker, this one was pushed hard. A lot. With relatively varied content (hence no logos (or perhaps the logo "dejuicer" did a good job)).
I do agree with some of your info but I do think this is due to quality issues from the panel which shows after a couple of years. My twinbrother have the same problem (b6, plays a lot but varied) and my friend (b7, plays only a little and watched varied content). I might even starting to see some problems with my father in laws TV (b7, varied content, no gaming). Somehow the pixel "wears out" so skintones gets a greenish look and they "wear out" faster then they should... Maiby because of more heat in the center? And like you said: faces are normally in the middle of the screen.
This is probably hard to avoid and has, like I wrote, something to do with the quality of the panel. "Avoid static images" "varied content" is in this case only "buzzwords" so we as a consumer feels that we are in control when we actually aren't...
My LG OLED developed a large cool bloom in the centre of the screen. LG weren’t happy about it but they did replace the screen under warranty. The replacement screen has not had any issues over the last two years.
Always great info from your vids. Thanks!!
Caleb is a TV Rockstar 🙏
Please consider a detailed settings video for Hisense U8N. Thanks.
Yes we need you to go into details with the tv settings for different tv model. I have a Hisense u7k bought it after watching your tv review
Yes, calibration for every TV model would be nice. TCL or Philips. Thanks, Caleb!
Thank you for your suggestions I would like to see how to get the best possible picture/calibration to Hisense U8N
Thank you
Caleb and crew - big fan here. Love the content. Will add a bit abt Tablo. Our fam has one… nice product but has limitations. ATSC 1.0 (not 3.0). Works on devices on same WiFi network - not when outside of home. Tablo app doesn’t work on LG nor AppleTV streaming boxes. It also has waaaaaay too many updates and we often reset. All stuff well noted on Tablo website and service team is nice. Thx again for great show!
I sold TVs for a couple of years on the weekends at Best Buy for one of the major brands. The story this guy tells about Costco's Allstate warranty is very familiar. It is free with the TV purchases at Costco, but you end up getting your money's worth. I dealt with several customers who had their TVs die right before the Allstate insurance would run out and then couldn't get a replacement. I never saw that issue with the Best Buy "protection plan." I even saw customers get TVs replaced that were a couple of weeks outside of the warranty.
It's almost impossible to find a calibrator that will come out for a consumer friendly price anymore. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but rarely is calibration going to be worth it for the average person.
I need. Best Buy is close to me at Rockland County 55inch smat tv LG or sumsung
I remember the days of travelling Calibrators. They would go on tour.
It did take hours.
Shout out to Eliab if he's a Caleb fan.
Yes, please go into detail on settings for Sony. Also, I know this will make a lot more work for you, but if you could make a list or something like on the steps so I could print it out would be awesome.
Absolutely love these videos, super helpful!!
I understand that the LG C4 is having some issues with game mode peak brightness being reduced - would you have any tips for optimising brightness settings for the LG C4 game mode? Its the only thing keeping me from buying the TV 😅
Are we safe to adjust by eye and personal preference? Or are we always better off leaving it as is, Eco Mode OFF, aside?
My friends LG C series 65” had same thing. On our move night we noticed a green discoloration in the center like that not as bad. He bought a new one but now I’m thinking a manufacturing problem.
I have an LG C8 in the UK and I had this issue. Contacted LG and they sent someone out to take it apart and put in a new screen. No issues since. It was about 5 years old when it happened.
Please provide your settings for Hisense U8 series. That would be amazing. Thanks.
WHAT is this Hisense QD7 and where does it stand in the Hisense lineup 😮 ? 😊
Great settings tip. Would be awesome if you also covered Game mode setting suggestions. Especially interested in getting the best out of game mode on the G4 but general LG OLED much appreciated!
Yes! TV Settings for Sony Bravia 9 or MiniLED TVs please!!!
Thanks for the content. Would be amazing to upload a video for the Hisense Tv's Mini Led U7K
Thanks for your help. I would love to have your set up advice for tcl q8 mimi
Can you also specify the content to play while changing settings per SDR, HDR, and Dolby.
Great setup video. We bought a Sony 2024 K55XR70 mini led a couple of months ago. Could you do a similar video for the Sony. I have a fear of mucking up the works while adjusting things. Really enjoying you videos. You have a very down to earth presentation style. Thank you
Thanks Caleb for all the great videos! Purchased the Hisense U8N , 55 inch a week ago. Having a bad time getting the picture/color/brightness etc correct. Would love to see the settings for the Hisense U8N ( aka U88N)
Thank you for your great informative videos. I would like to see settings for Sony Bravia 4K AE1 TV (A95L)
This was helpful! Thanks! Would love to see one for Hisense Mini LED
Yes, please do best TV settings for TCL TVs
Yes, please go through each brand of TV for changing settings.
Would love to see a PREFERRED SETTINGS on the LG G4 line up. Mine is a 77" G$ bit I am sure others would benefit from your recommendations from this particular model regardless of the size. Settings menu is the one that is more troublesome for most of us. Thanks ahead of time.
Please do recommended settings for new Sony Bravia 8 ( and Sony Theatre 8 too )
I have been using tablo and upgraded to the new version. I have an antenna that picks up 4 channels and 50 or so tablo fast streaming channels that I can record. Great product at a reasonable price. Free programming also.
Hope you can go through the same setting example with the new Sony Bravia TVs of 2024, especially the Bravia 8 OLED, which you have not reviewed in the channel so far. Thanks!
Regarding burn-in, what does the TV community say about ipad Pros Tandem OLED? 1000 nits SDR and many many hours per day with the screen turned on. Video about this would be cool.
7:46 Speaking of settings and ipad. Should auto brightness be turned on or off for HDR on tandem oled? I've used HdTVtest method of turning that and TrueTone off for my iPhone 13 Pro. Im confused abou peak brightness being reported as lower with manual brightness. What to do Dolby Vision in the Apple TV app on iPad
We're gearing up for football season! Already have a Samsung S95B though so we're not looking to upgrade. It looks say WAY better now than it did before we went OLED
Would appreciate a “best” settings for Hisense TVs especially the 75U88N I know it has a different panel then the rest. Thank you for all the advise and expertise you provide.
Yes, please, recommended settings for mayor brands...!
Personally Sony Bravia Mini-LED.
I love your channel.
We got a burn in like that once. The bottom lines were closed captioning and the center was a news anchor
Yes, please do a video for each brand!!!
Would definitely appreciate a detailed video on picture settings for Hisense u8n 65”, thanks for this video
But, Caleb, recommending to disable even cinematic motion precessing may result in 3:2 pulldown judder. TVs that can't do straight 5:5 pulldown need motion precessing to reconstruct original 24p motion.
Yes, would love a best picture settings for a Sony X90L
Hey Caleb, doing as you asked! Please could you run through Samsung OLEDs? Specifically I have a 65 inch S95B
I have a U8K Hisense and would appreciate a run through on that set up ...
I know the c7s had an issue with pixel screen calibration because of a manufacturing defect that caused incorrect LUT values I think they called it that caused a ghost rectangle to appear in the middle of the screen. The smudging effect isn't the same effect but might be of similar problem where the pixel refresh cycle hasn't been calibrating the pixel voltages correctly.
Caleb, how come you don't mention about choosing the custom option when changing the settings on the tv? You can always revert back to the default settings in the custom profile similar to using an equalizer in audio. I tried the movie mode or the cool settings but it's too dull looking and darker looking. I always choose the vivid or dynamic picture mode that offers the most color saturation while being the brightest since I'm going for the most color saturation while being the brightest settings possible. I treat the displays settings like turning the volume to the max on the volume knob but have it apply to the display settings or all the sliders maxed out to there highests settings on purpose. Anything with red looks orange and anything with blue looks almost purple. I have a 65 inch samsung curve qled 4k tv from 2017 and I intentionally have the backlight sliders maxed out and brightness sliders maxed out and local dimming settings to the lowest because I want to have the brightest display possible. There is no option to turn off local dimming so I just choose to have local dimming on the lowest settings instead.
I love the Expert dark and bright settings on my LG OLED C2. I didn't see them listed on the C4 or did I miss it?
Tablo works great but you need to add an external type A hard drive I have the 4 tuner with a 1 GB hard drive ran about 200 bucks for the tablo and hard drive
Would love to see your recommended Samsung Oled settings
Yes I wish you had video for most TVs pictures setting , I have Sony XBR-55X950G
Thank you. Please consider showing the same for Sony A95 TVs.