MATCH REVIEW | JOHN VS LEONIDAS | EAST VS WEST 14
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
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Hey guys, in this video we take a look at the epic match between John Brzenk vs Leonidas Arkona at East vs West 14. This was a great match that you should watch if you haven't already. John shows us why he is the GOAT with his unbelievable martial armwrestling. We analyses the match and discuss the techniques and tactics that we feel John used to overcome the much younger, bigger, and stronger opponent.
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Kevin here, i was in Leonidas corner.
I gota say pretty good summary over all. Going into the match we were pretty certain that we can beat john in major vectors like rising and pronation. But we underestimated the way john could still use that shoulder to block and hold on. And also his stamina. We were prepared to bleed john out after opening his hand but it was scary when i was the other way around. Cudos to john for pulling that of. Later on he admited that he never thought he had to go that place and he didnt even know if he still had it in. But the crowd pushed him over his limit. If this match wouldve take place in Istanbul it probably wouldve ended differently. But it didnt so hats of to the goat.
Thanks for your feedback! Home court advantage definitely matters. This event showed that. Leo is gonna grow a lot from that match💪💪
hey kev, is leo training enough to be a great armwrestler or is he still focused too much on powerlifting ?
@@TwistedTransistor88 he is still training his whole body just for balance but his focus is Armwrestling 100%. We hit 6h of table time just this week.
@@kvnneo oh man, can't wait for the next video about it on his channel. hopefully devon isn't too hard on leo and he can learn a lot from that match, but good luck anyway.
Are you Leo's coach? I heard Leo say he needed to get a stronger back, and I thought, look at John. He surely doesn't have a stronger back than Leo. What John definitely does seem to have, is stronger transition strength, because he wasn't giving ground during his transitions. Leo seemed not to be able to transition without letting off pressure.
Thanks for all the information! I've learned so much from you guys that I've been able to apply to practice. Probably you two and Bob brown have taught me the most.
That means a lot. We really appreciate and respect Bob Brown, so to be mentioned with him is a huge honour
Great understanding with super accurate replication of each round, kudos
Love these videos fellas. Keep this style of video coming. I thoroughly enjoy hearing your perspective on the more intricate details of the matches.
Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoy this format.
I have a hard time watching that match I start crying being so happy for John. I'm going to argue that isn't a kings move though. My personal belief is you need to be on your bicep for it to be an official kings. And the reason I say that is because in MMT's case it's more a bone lock. In this case John is using pronation and tendons to keep him up. In a kings move you can use bicep if you have enough of it if not bone lock. John was keeping his elbow inside his body where typical kings movers have it far away. In other words John was using his concrete elbow not bicep/bone. I'm no hater on the kings. I like watching MMT, Leo, Brandon, Tiny ect. Just my opinion.
Lovin' it. You could make a 30m analysis of that match and I would watch. I've been waiting for someone more knowledgeable than me to make this video 🎉
10:12 this is very interesting and I came up to this conclusion watching Devon versus taras ivakin. Ermes versus levan also looked similar when he tried to go directly to "the answer" the press and lost. Making your opponent have to fight thru the hill of technique before switching is very important or leaves "voids" that they can fill easily.
Ermes went to his only way to stop the match. How is that remotely similar?
@EvolutionaryE no he lost everything and was put there, when he tried to go straight there he lost when he tried to fight and ended up there he stopped the match. Again fight the top of the hill and see where it lands not start at the bottom and hope for the top
@@EvolutionaryE Had John went for the flop or hook initially he would've lost his hand. The same goes for Devon versus taras. He went for the toproll and secured his pronator for his side pressure win in round 1. All other rounds he went directly for the defensive hook and lost his hand and couldn't press.
@@GTIngold rushing for the bottom of the hill gives your opponent the ability to run down the hill and your chances of stopping that momentum a lot harder. If you've got a hard stop like crazy george it doesn't matter as much as it does for him to drop quick enough to get to his spot. Same goes for Michael, but he's got a different stop than George does IMO.
@@rileyneufeld7001 you are assuming ermes could stop levan at each point on the hill. It is a unique matchup and a VERY unique arm wrestler that can actually utilize many different techniques effectively enough to slow them down. If you try something they can overwhelm, you get flash pinned when you try it, and lose the ability to try anything else that round. Nobody walks into a match planning on trying 7 different moves.
The way that John gave up his flexion to do a pronation press through leonidas’ pinky was epic
Thanks for clarifying the difference between open top roll and king’s move. I’ve heard others say the only difference is angle of the humerus.
A lot of people think that’s the only difference… but we believe there is a lot more to it… at least we find thinking of it this way allows us to learn, teach, and decode the moves better…
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John is a f*cking monster, ALWAYS !
Ansolutely great review. Thanks. One Question: What could Leonidas have done better besides maybe transitioning into a press by himself in the right time? Or was this the only option ?
There were a lot of lanes for Leonidas to win with, but I don’t think there was anyway to coach him to a victory in this match… he just needs the experience to know what he’s feeling and how to react.
If there was anything Leo could have done it might have been taking more fouls to get more restarts…
I think Leo still had a lot of pulls in him with a 30-90 second break… John on the other hand appears to be gassed out after the 4th pull… if Leo didn’t try to hang on so hard in round two, and took a foul once John transitioned to the hook he may have been able to turn it around in round three if it was the 5th pull of the match… but that’s completely just speculation.
I think John was just too technically advanced for Leo to beat him on this day. I would probably pick Leo in a rematch though…
-Tiny
@@tablemonkeys5262 Thanks a lot for your reply. I agree John outsmarted him, just too much experience.
But very interesting thoughts from you regarding Leos possibilitie. I agree on your analysis here too.
Imho one can see experience in the mastery of transitions and switching styles well timed, which John showed perfectly (he's the perfect storm).
Of course for this you first need versatility which Leo yet has to develop, but if he keeps going, he is able to do a lot of damage in coming years...
So when someone grips low, gets cup and gives up pronation just past neutral, then keeps the rest, and then goes into a defensive (more so of an open arm) position, what do you call that? Not exactly what you guys call a kings move just curious
Maybe there needs to be a distinction between King's Move, Open Arm Toproll and Desperation Move. The last one is where the shoulder is below the table and the elbow is locked at max extension. Btw. Why hasn't Crazy George been invited to East vs West? Is he not a legend?
The desperation move as you put it is just a foul. That’s why we don’t consider it a move
@@tablemonkeys5262 True, but it was allowed for a while as you can see from the John vs Michael Todd match. That I believe is the move people were in outrage over, because it require you to break someone's arm, or press the weight of their whole body weight to beat them. I am glad that that move has been deemed a foul. I also don't think George went under the table with his move.
Going under the table is fine, unless you are neutral or losing position. Once you are on your side you can go under the table.
George doesn’t go under the table until he is on his side. The variation on the rule has more to do with the refs calling it. It was ignored in other leagues for a long time. EvW has been very strict about it, and we agree with that.
@@tablemonkeys5262 Yes. Precisely.
John had 2 elbow fous in round 1 and 2 sadly.
John is better than Devon