Make That Thing JUMP When You Whack The Gas!
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Very few modifications will give you the immediate Seat-Of-The-Pants results that re-curving your distributor will. Here's everything you need to know about the process and how to apply this voodoo to your own engine.
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In the old days we had 110 Octane gas at the pump. Now it is 92 . Quick advance curves went out when the 110 Octane went away. Everyone recurved the distributor for racing in the old days. Locking the advance is for track only . It beats out the bearings. Dual point distributor is to increase spark energy by increasing coil dwell,not to alter timing. Many people did weird things, Dirt track racers being the weirdest. Are you an uneducated farmer, Tony, running Sprint cars? CAT gives this a big yawn. Remember if it doesn't start put in an extra battery for 24 volts and use a high torque starter. Don't think that over advanced timing is the problem.
I hope you've made arrangements to leave your brain to the fucking Smithsonian, man. Science NEEDS to unlock the secret powers of that damn thing.
It’s obvious why there is a cat for your thumbnail picture.
You were suppose to check in with 999thenewman! Did you not get the message? 🙄🙄🤪🤪😵😵
@Account User There were a few places that sold CAM2 110 octane and still are, but that’s still not “pump gas.”
@@UncleTonysGarage LMFAO
When I was a teenager, we would have killed to be able to get info like this on our phone at anytime and from anywhere and FREE. This is the good stuff that makes all the garbage on RUclips worth putting up with.
Absolutely!
Please let us all know how this 'info' helps your engine's performance
@@bicylindrico Some of us actually build engines and remember learning this stuff the hard way.
@@johnwilburn LOL. Ok John. I am a newbie
John, info like this used to be printed in Car Craft, Hot Rod, Super Stock & Drag Illustrated, etc. back in the 1960s.
True mechanic... drops his rump on anything available when it's time to ponder the wonders of machines
Hahaha!!!! 👍🏻
A grown man being dead serious on a pink bicycle...priceless!
He lost a bet I think
If your secure in you manhood it doesn't bother you.
Dont forget the training wheels.
I love that he never addresses being on a pink bicycle
He didn’t address the severed mannequin head that time, either. It’s hilarious.
I need a pink kids bike. Don't ask why, just accept I need one.
@@johnwilburn im wondering the same thing
The kids are gonna be pissed about the greasy handlebars
@Pauly Gambino I don't think tony and save on gas ever go in the same sentence
Glad to see you're finally getting to enjoy your bike build
I used a set of white Barbie tires for my build.
Hadda paint the Barbie lettering white to hide it 😆
It's just an old blue banana seat 20" bike with ape hangers and extended forks I painted red.
I used 16" wheels on it with the white Barbie tires for easier peddling.
I call it Cap'n Merica.
Maybe I should challenge him to a race 🤔
😆😆
@@MrTheHillfolk do it
Keeping it lightweight with the no streamer grips look. This butterfly means business!
He's doing a road glide conversion on it!!!
well this IS kindergarten tuning stuff! even though it's also MASTERCLASS. Love it
damn this dude knows alot of stuff.
Hes the god of mopar
You have no idea. 👍👍👍👍
He could walk into FCA and fix all their woes.
We're not a lot of stuff to so what are you doing now too bad you're too dumb to understand secrets of life repeat greater than what you are you think you are gods and you are that's what's happening right now so goodbye on the secrets of speed hahaha it's already been posted but you will never know the secrets
I feel my distribution of knowledge has advanced because of this vid, thanks UT
It's a good way to fight the knowledge vacuum and get the spark of thought ignited.
wow , u through me a curve ! see my point ? ok , ok ill stop .
Ahh that was good 👍
I just tried to watch videos about ignition timing and vacuum advance on two other channels and I had to tune out, because they were too meandering and long-winded. Thanks for continuing to keep the main thing the main thing!
The more I've progressed as a mechanic the more i realize what an encyclopedia this guy is, and the more I appreciate the nuance of his explanations
No need for a dyno, a great "feel in the seat" modification. Taught this secret in 1969 from a machine shop builder famous for his dirt track engines.
In those days our "dyno" was a straight stretch of road with marks on the pavement and a stopwatch.
Timing lights, curve kits, jets, metering rods, power piston springs, power valves, squirters and pump cams are part of a foreign language to most people now.
I bet the young ones now can't imagine making the effort!
@@Motor-City-Mike
What's that word "effort"?
This guy is very good, I’m old guy old school you have good channel Sir helping me to see things I’d not worked on for years. I’m old guy retired Military USAF disabled ptsd. I’ve bought an old 1963 Chevy C-10 with a 383 Stroker. I’m working on it but my brain doesn’t do for me like the old days of wrench turning. I was Master Mechnic in military working on jet engines. My head worked great then, now it takes more time but I get there. I’m doing the drivers side cylinder head install today, did the passenger side the other day. So, love the timing tutorial and love the ones for carburetor initial adjustment and more… You Rock Sir, keep posting I need more tech which I’m say, rusty on, ha ha..
Thank you Sir!
You have to stay in it and stay active with it for you to stay good at wrenching from my own experience.
@@TheRossillini turned these wrenches “all my life” “Still In >it..
Don't let your disability define who you are.
Man, my dad had 2 heart attacks and a stroke back to back and can't remember or comprehend his own brain in these types of situations anymore.
The way you explained this refreshed my mind. He explained it to me as a 14 year old and why my 305 I put in my first car was slouchy out of the hole.
After a week with a vaccum Guage and twisting the distributor, tuning a quadrajet, another week of curving the vaccum advance and modulator valve on the Trans, lighter weights and springs, hotter plugs, hotter wires. Etc.
I had a cammed 305/with th350 3sp in a gbody with a 3:73 gear that would DOG most people's BBC's I know.
I miss my dad having a sharp mind, he taught me so much....never take it for granted unc, teach everyone you can! keep up the good work, I love the show. I always come here for refreshment of the automotive mind.
I can't remember shit, I smoke alot of pot smh
I’ve been tinkering with my Mopar for most of my life at this point and I still learn (or re-learn) something from Uncle Tony every time I watch. Very grateful for this channel!!
I am with you. I forgot about this. Now that I have rebuilt my Holley carb, gotta tackle the timing.
This is the Best channel I have subscribed to on youtube. I've actually learned quite a bit of useful tips and tricks that only someone that has tried and tested these in the real world would know. Thanks uncle Tony.
You know it’s a good video when you watch the whole thing several times.
What I've did for my mild street slant6, removed heavy spring and put a light one in (from summit.. cheap), kept medium stock. Welded Advance plate it gives 16.. and set base timing at 12, and did an GM Hei chip.
she's SOO much more fun to drive..this was as much as an upgrade as going from a single carb to dual carbs!
Abselutly worth the 60 Euros!! Do it!
Well said and well put.
Im so happy to hear y'all enjoying american power overseas. Sounds so dumb to have to say that but i mean it
@@williamstamper442 most fun is that the Slant , is easily made quite powerful for here.. Nothing has torque down low.
Most American iron here has a (bad/smogged or just bad build) v8 though!
I've been bless with having Twins in my life, both 68 Dodge Dart, hers is still Slant6 and mine is now 318 swap.. Mopar Everyday and Everywhere
My favorite tweak to my Camaro back in the day was tuning the distributor. Amazing how many people go tweaking their cars and looking for all the horsepower they can get, only to overlook the distributor. That immediate snap of the throttle is simply the best.
probably part of why you see old shop guys dragging $50,000 engines. money can't buy experience.
If your budget build guru doesn't give you advice from the seat of a kids Cinderella bicycle, your ride is gonna be trash 🤣 another great one brother. UTG all the way!!
This guy is so assured of his manhood that he presents the entire video from a girls' bike! This is good information for those that are into hot rodding!
You are awesome uncle tony, thank you so much for the signed stickers. It means more than you can imagine. You are a great man!!!
I thought I was a good hot rod mechanic ! Thanks for the lesson.
that's cool I never knew that's why race cars have a separate start button. This guy is pure genius.
Not the only reason. My street Camaro, I added a bump start right onto my fire wall near the hood hinge. Can't really see it. Use it to bump over the engine for multiple reasons. I used to work at a marina fixing boats. We had a sort of test circuit with a starter bump switch on it. Hook it to power and the other lead goes to the starter, had another lead going to the ignition. With that wire harness thingy, you can easily steal any old boats in less than 10 seconds lol. My cousin worked at that marina before me and our boss needed to do repo's on boats for whatever reason. It came in handy lol.
Uncle Tony keep this up your teaching a new generation on how to keep these cars running and Hot Rodding Alive
Dude is a genius, I wish he was my neighbor.
I remember busting starters in my GTO when I was a kid, had to learn timing the hard way wish I'd have known someone like Uncle Tony back then
Almost 13 minutes of UTG video and it feels like I blinked and it's over!!!!😤😠😡😤😠😡 I just can't get enough UTG videos. I could watch them all day.
I feel the same way.
I know right!!!
I just watched this video. Like a kid watching cartoons, I was shocked and sad at how fast it was over!!
These old school how to type videos of yours are awesome. This is very much like when I first discovered your channel. Keep up the good stuff!
Really good info for old school tuning. I remember my buddy getting a hot Mallory distributor used from a local racer thinking it was going to give him more power, his car suffered in performance after he installed it and he pulled it out and gave it to me. I went in and replaced the weights and springs and it ran great.
Your videos are from a point of great knowledge, and although I've yet to need any of the information, I keep watching.
Please tell the puppydogs I love them.
I had to come back and watch this video second time. It reminded me of when my grandfather set me on the fender of his 76 Granada and started teaching me about distributors and timing. Thank you very much for the nostalgia Uncle Tony.
When running dual points, with two settings, you have to use a relay or 3-way switch. I did a 69 RS Camero for my racing buddy, but used a micro switch on the throttle. So just off idle it would jump to full advance side using a relay & this switch. Easy and nothing to mess with or remember with the light turns green!
DK, ASE master since 1978.
Literal, free performance wisdom. Pure internet gold. Thanks Uncle T!
Wow your videos are so good. Ive thought about using lighter springs for low end advance and a harder one for high rev advance (more CR and cam). Keep up the work. Really like your Channel more and more!
Thanks uncle Tony l have to admit when I first opened your video l thought shit lve watching Easy Rider movie but then noticed you on the bike great explanation on the working on internals of the distributor l look forward to seeing your videos every day regards Anthony from down under ps say hi to Uncle Kathy
This is a subject we all need to know to make it GO. Thank You, JD
I learned these tricks back in the 70s from PHR magazine's Monza project. I had 18 deg. initial, 10 mechanical and 8 vacuum with a very built 331 Chevy, (4 bolt 350 block built as large journal 327, .030 over) dual 650 Holleys on a tunnel ram, and a full manual turbo 350 in a 76 Sunbird. I had a switch on the dash to the Accel super coil and flipped it after she got rotating. It was in a 1976 Pontiac Sunbird Pontiac version of Monza town coupe) . It would lift the front wheels off the ground with no problem. The only problem was that the unibody car built without even subframes became a flexible-flyer in a short time. Cracked spot welds, stress tear on rh front fender. and had to be sitting level for the doors to close. A lot of fun while it lasted.
Send it 🤘 the “pink” cycle... the one with the 2 pro-street extra drag slicks -
Extra Drag Slicks. Very good.
Mom! Dad's on my bike again!
Always learning with uncle Tony what u give is priceless thanks again
Back in the dark ages I used to reprogram dizzys unsung a sun distributor scope a box of springs and weights and you could do any curve you want , playing with the dwell can give some interesting results especially at high rpm
Loved the old Sun Distributor machine. I worked at a tune up shop and found so many issues with mechanical distributors that when solved made customers for life. The fact we had quit a few race cars on trailers in the parking lot was great advertising.
Uncle Tony, have you ever thought of writing a book with all of this knowledge in it? It sure would help young guys like me who are just starting out.
Videos are 10x better.
His explanations are real world and easily understood.
Comments and questions are invaluable and usually answered.
A book...? Not nearly as good.
@@hotrodray6802 Books on the basics are a great learning tool and should not be ignored. Why wait for an explanation to be spoon fed to you when you can have a reference on hand to answer your questions? It's by far a far more concentrated form of knowledge.
Sweet bike "that thing got a hemi in it?"
My wife: "Why is he sitting on a pink bike?"
Me: ... it's Uncle Tony.... No need to explain any farther, she understood.
Since he's experimenting with modern engines these days, I can see a turbo SRT 4 in that bike frame soon!
At least it has a posi rear end...
@@kramnull8962 Nope...it's a one wheel peel deal. Those trainers are the stability system.
@@MikeBrown-ii3pt They've been referenced as Extra Drag Slicks.
Man I raced circle track for almost 15 years and the guy we got our distributors from always said to get the engine spinning before hitting the ignition switch, but I never knew why. We ran them locked out at 36°. Thanks Uncle T!!!
Cool! I’ve been messing and trying the “ most initial lead, with reducing the total timing “ for years. Thanks for the insight! Can’t wait for next summer to experiment
Nice bike lol
That bitch a huffy?
That bike has a Himi
That bike has been custom painted to his shirt, so you betta watchyoself.
Too often I find people who advance the timing too much and the engine fires early and slows down.
Ridiculously informative, it's a lost art doing this stuff. I love it and learned alot working on old Jeeps and cars alot of guys have no idea how to do anything with this stuff.
Short and sweet. Thanks tony for giving us another classic.
When uncle tony said he wanted to get another bike I thought he ment a motorcycle LOL
Wow, that first dist was an oldie. Did I see a manual oiling port/flap to oil it? :-)
This channel has helped me more with my Mopar than any other channel. I have 1950 with a 318 in it with an HEI distributor and just don't have any acceleration until I watched a few of your videos and you helped me figure it out.
Another great one, U.T.
When talk about recurving a distributor most people look at me like I'm from another planet.
I STILL had a distributor machine in the early 2000s and did recurves for customers with older cars on a fairly regular basis.
The pink bicycle is the only thing in that garage that runs. And personally, I blame squirrels too.
I am not sure what exactly I am supposed to learn on this channel but it is truly entertaining. It's like my uncle has his own youtube channel and he regurgitates stuff he heard back in the 70's
"Curving the distributor?" Sounds like Peyronie's disease!
Ouch!
Not sure how many caught this, but lol
this is rock solid as to how I remember learning about this stuff. its good to see a knowledgable guy giving advice on here. these young kids have no idea what is going on under the hood or why 99% the time. the old school made the new school and guys like this dont just have knowledge they have wisdom. nobody knows it all if ya wanna be fast ya gotta be able to listen. this video real gem. like he said take the knowledge and apply it to your situation
When I found Uncle Tony on RUclips I knew it was a gold mine of info and cool stories. UT wrote the best articles in car magazines decades ago ! 👍🤩 Happy Independence Day to UTG and all family ! 💥
im 20 secs in and I can't stop laughing, I cant take you seriously as you sit on that bike
Haven't heard anyone talk about this stuff for a very long time. Great video and accurate info on the subject.
Thats cause everybody wants LS and fuel injection lol but nothing better than a snappy oldschool v8
Legendary stuff. Thanks for preserving and sharing your knowledge. All of these wonderful things that are what wrenching and racing are all about will be lost one day if guys like you don't!!
Am I the only sucker who likes Uncle Tony’s videos before it even starts ?
No, lol
Thanks uncle Tony for the once over. Much appreciated.and I much appreciate the fact your on a pink trike.. because apparently that's the comment section. And besides.. it shows your not afraid of it. And keeping the instructions simple and easy to follow.. well done man
I was a developmental technician at ford in the UK in the 70’s one of my jobs was setting distributor curves on the rig the same for long range vacuum advance - this was how timing was advanced on the dyno, the same for the carburettor- AFR was tuned by pressurising the float bowl either pressure or vacuum old school pre electronic EFO
Well.......the info was way above my head. I’m not at that level yet. But I’m paying attention to every video you make. Your a gold mine of information. I really appreciate you taking the time to share all these tips and knowledge. Your much appreciated. Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏼
Great knowledge. Thanks for keeping it simple for us backyard wrenches
Thank you, been hoping for this video. I for some reason had a hard understanding this and you explained it in a way that finally makes sense.
Love the twinkle in your eyes that you get around 8:10 in this video! Great video!
Wow memories. Great great old school get-up tune info from A to Z. Good man. Peace
I have learned so much watching your videos you are one of my favorite Mechanics on youtube
Thanks Uncle Tony for demystifying all this stuff, really good thankyou mate.
I'm commenting while the first ad is running... I've learned more from this guy than any msd video so far
The so called, "heavy spring" in the Mopar distributor is really a limiter that doesn't do much stretching. It has a long, slotted loop at one end that allows the light spring to function on its own at medium RPM. then the heavy spring acts as an advance stop. It then takes a much higher RPM to even begin to stretch the heavy spring. Most stock engines don't ever reach these RPM's. Mopar Performance published a hard cover performance book in 1970 that suggested removing the heavy spring for performance, without a replacement spring on that side. Several years later, Direct Connection would offer a pair of lighter springs to replace both the factory light spring and the factory heavy spring together.These are the two springs that come in the Mopar Performance distributors. They do not have as many coils as the one original light spring. Because the advance is so much quicker, at lower RPM's, the vacuum advance that is tuned to work with the heavy spring in place, should be left disconnected, as it would cause too much advance as part throttle. There are aftermarket, adjustable vacuum advance cans, that can sometimes to be tuned to work with the quicker mechanic advance. With those, often the vacuun advance is attached to the manifold vacuum, instead of the standard ported vacuum. Then the timing is set with vacuum advance connected, instead of disconnected,and at full throttle the manifold vacuum drops and mechanical advance functions normally, but total advance is limited to prevent engine knock. Much simpler to just go with quick mechanical advance, set total timing and not use vacuum advance. A lot Mopar guys picked up that removing the heavy spring modification. It is more easily done in an electronic distributor than in a distributor with points, but functions the same in both.
HEY Jungle, always enjoyed the long smokey BURN - outs.
And pam's short shorts, what a SHOW.
I like the ported vacuum slot on my Holly with light spring in front heavier in back or just plugging the canister up , and using higher initial timing it took off crazy fast for a 3/4 ton truck although the engine ran alot hotter and exhaust was 50 percent louder vs full manifold... it's great for performance rodding around as is the purpose of this video .... I get bored often and switch back and forth although a rejet is often required in the process .
I LOVE Your Old School Knowledge 🙏 you teach tips I learned from my father in the 90's💪😎👍
This is so ol'school, love it, like reading the latest Hot rod magazine tech tips back in the 60s
The juxtaposition of great old school distributor info being delivered on a tiny pink bicycle is the best 😆
I've never heard it explained so well! Great job!
Thanks for the video. I really like how you explain stuff... easy for this country boy to understand.
Good lord I am glad you are sharing your knowledge. Great stuff sir!
I know others have commented on the bike, but I can't resist. Love the bike! this guy is the real deal. Love the content just found your channel.
That last point is pretty great. Very neat idea to optimise.
I did not understand anything but it was exciting to listen, someone who knows what he is doing! 😂
Good videos! I can't believe you have been on youtube 3 years and are as popular as you are and I had never heard of you till someone shared one of your videos on the Mopar engine group on facebook. Its nice to see some good solid Mopar videos you are doing finally because there isn't a lot of good info on youtube.
Nothing but awsomeness!! Thank you for your knowledge and sharing..
That bit about starting the engine when hot with a lot of initial timing will be very useful. I have a 69 road runner with a 383 that has a Comp XE275HL-10 cam that likes a lot of initial timing. I run 36 degrees at 2400 rpm with no vacuum advance and it is a beast to start when warm. I am going to try the 3-4 pumps of the gas and holding the throttle open to see how that works because it hesitates to start with that big hard hesitation/kick. Good stuff Tony!
It takes a real man to sit on a barbie bike and and explain muscle cars. Uncle tony is a wealth of info. Thanks.
One thing a lot of people miss when tuning a distributor is shaft end play. Shim it up, otherwise you can get unexplained timing shifts that happen as the shaft moves up and down due to the angle on the drive gear. This can happen on manual transmissions (mostly) while shifting gears as the rpm goes up and down quickly. Some are so bad it can backfire thru the carb... on a really bad distributor, and most people will never consider its from end play of the dist. shaft. Of course a whipped engine with a stretched timing chain and other factors can contribute.
I got a manual tbird doing this timing shift issue, thank you for the comment I'm about to fix it now
Tony I Recurved My Distributor in My 69 Roadrunner 383 4 Speed @ 15 yrs old in 79 with $2.00 Soring Kit & About 2 1/2 hrs time I Also Did Extra Distributor Mods Like Double Sore ng Dual Points & Anti Points Slip Mod etc Ended up Being High Maintainance But I loved IT !!
Keep doing what you're doing brother, huge help, thank you ! I owe you one !
Thanks for the advice man. Gonna try this first thing Saturday morning
Hi Tony, thanks for your good explanation, I like your technics as I am also an old school tuner enthusiast, God bless.
Instead of locking the distributor like your "phase 3", install the #925B Mr. Gasket lightweight spring set. The instant the engine fires, the car goes to my full 36° advance. Never an issue with hard starting. I have a dial in the cockpit for the MSD that allows me to pull 5° of timing from the drivers seat for the 200 shot of nitrous. :) Still use the stock style distributor.
You remind me so much of my dad before he passed its unreal. He was just a redhead version. Mopar or nothing.
I might have a manky old ford. Ty for the tip on my boiling fuel in the bowl btw. But you sir have alot of amazing knowledge that can be applied to anything... I should send you my dead ford 400m so you can see their fatal bottom end oiling issues first hand and give even more knowledge
Thankyou for a choosing a slanter distributor for the demonstration !
Hands down best explanation on these tricks and tips!! Iam 35 and grew up with efi crap mostly.. thanks dude! Jeremy from Wisconsin)
thanks I really appreciate you showing me how to do that Tony that's something I was really concerned about trying to get this little barracuda running with the 318 after I put a mild Cam and it just wasn't snappy enough coming off the line and that took care of the problem thank you
Glad to see you are back on a bike.
Yep...Ignition timing is a science in itself...Took me quite a while to grasp exactly why with RPM's and fuel grades and compression how it all makes a difference but nobody mentions the fuel burn(Spark to explosion) time of the fuel grades and auto ignition...Pump gas thru to Methanol or e85...Nitro is another game as you well know...Just thought I'd throw that in...Love the show Tony.
Hey uncle Tony's Garage I Really appreciate yr patience and Educational thoughts . This world and time's we live in . I need yr knowledgeable blessing too Reach around the world, for the next generation of god's children. It's time to find A protoge . To carry the torch. Yr vernacular speech is so clearly understood. Thank you. I want people to understand you are a Righteous soul and we blessed with yr caring, loving Nature. Teach this to All. Thank you so much strength and knowledgeable tools for life Energies. 👍
Back in the 60s, We use to install bushings on the limit pins to reduce the amount of total curve, and only worry about total advance timing plus the spring rate curve
Hi uncle tony good job again great video on recurving distributors really learning a lot think you.👍🔧🚘