@@sillygoose635 No, they're not. I'm a big fan of simm as an actor, but his master was dreadful. Cringe inducing in the end of time, nothing more than generic in any other episode until he was totally redefined in the doctor falls.
Totally, plus I think Delgado's untimely death was one of the reasons Pertwee chose to leave Doctor Who after 5 seasons. He took his death pretty hard.
"I want to see the universe, not rule it." - The 3rd Doctor talking to the Master "You don't have to *own* the universe, just see it." - The 10th Doctor talking to the Master
@@fredh1720 as the Average British Guy said 11 months ago, " You take what small victories you can get" .... New Who is... best in small amounts, not great but not entirely bad, just the writing I dont like - personal opinion that being said... the last finally ruin the show and made no sense in all the years DW was on the air
I love how the Master only tries to kill the Doctor after he baiscally refuses to become bffs again :) This is what was lost in the Master until Missy came along.
Back then when you were not aware that they grew up together, you could sense there was a very strong connection between the master and the doctor. When was life or death they were forced to work together to Escape.
“No! Why with this power within the cosmos, WE COULD BE GODS!” Umm, you wish Master! Your just lucky that The Doctor is compassionate to his old friend, YOU!
@@CuteNekoHibiki ...Noo I’m pretty sure they are childhood friends?... even the official Doctor Who channel with the playlist’s description about the master says he is a old friend? Dunno where u got that info from?
The Guardian always reminds me of Deep Roy because it rather looks like the kind of role he would play. However, it is clearly a puppet and voiced by Norman Atkyns.
Banjo Pink Little person actor who played the Oompa Loompas in the Johnny Depp version of Willy Wonka. Was also in The Never-Ending Story and several episodes of Doctor Who.
Of course, models will always be more realistic than CGI, but sometimes the CGI is required and getting it to look professional is extemely important. I'm glad we could somewhat agree on this topic :)
A combination of both, model work and sympathetic CGI works best, like when they retrospectively fix laser effects etc, you don't want what George Lucas ended up doing 'fixing' the original Star Wars trilogy every week.
The self destruct control was a bit to easy to throw by accident. Usually there'd be more to it, like turning two controls simultaneously. A good example was the one in Forbidden Planet
The beauty of Doctor Who is you got to meet new creatures and aliens for each adventure. The downside was the props department had to throw them together with whatever was lying around the studio. In this case, a baby doll and a large ball of cotton wool, it seems.
2:14 Dr: It this the self destruct lever? Alien guy: No. Dr: How about this one? Alien guy: No. Dr: This one? Alien guy: Shrug. Not sure now. Dr: Maybe this one. Alien guy: Pull it and find out.
old series didnt need rely on CGI, (not only because didnt have the technology during the 1960's -70's either, 1980's did have CGI-The Last Star Fighter movie used CGI ) what made the series so great was the ability to make the costumes and the props from JUNK, lot of skill is required to make low budget models and everyday items to make props look somewhat convinceing-which is more than what todays CGI crap movies spends,sure the 3D has improved, but dont need spend so much for a movie ticket
It was funny that the Master‘s weapon vanished in his hand by the leader of the primitive city because the guardian sensed the Master wanted the machine to rule the Universe. But if the guardian killed the Master as punishment for trying to kill him,would the Doctor take the Master‘s TARDIS,knowing that it can change its shape wherever it goes,or send it back to his home planet after finding his TARDIS,stuck in the shape of a Police Box?
Whereas tge New Series is ALL MISS! 😂😂😂 Now that BBC are totally INSANE, with their stupid sex-change Doctor! I mean, has anybody told Susan that here grandfather is now her GRANDMOTHER? 😂😂😂 The show in its current form is an embarrassment and is beyond ridiculous! 👎
And why Delgado's Master is iconic and a billion times better than any representation since - especially the horrible pastiches in the so called "new" series.
Here the master shows that he's someone with a goal and simply doesn't stop at anything to reach it. He's not a psychopath more than a politician declaring war. They're not psychopaths but they're not "good" either, I really prefer the master to be a conqueror in search of power than a maniac just killing people.
To create the effect that he was dying? Perhaps something to do with the doomsday weapons effects? I dunno man, it was the 70’s, they could be a bit too ambitious for their effects budget.
no no, not you, harrietamidala 1691, I was, in fact , directing that comment towards Amerikaner25 himself, the comment was supposed to be in reply to his. My apologies for any offence I might have inadvertantly caused. I must say I am quite a fanatic myself.
Rule or be ruled is a basic law of life, Master? Well you'd better go tell every cat ever 'cause they're alive and I don't think they know. I certainly don't! :D
Delgado was a good Master however the current Master Dhwarn has elements of him with his TCE when Delgado passed away I think Pertwee didn’t want to be in Doctor Who anymore as Manning also left she would return in SJA this time Matt Smith is the Doctor
This is SOOOO Much better written, Realised, acted, Scored, etc than that new Soap shite that uses the Title for BBC's Profit. REAL Sci-Fi. The Classics will NEVER be beaten. Not unless they completely BURNED All the new crap, & Sent it's ashes into space, & Started again with REAL actors (not students), REAL FX (not CGI), Inspired Writting (Not a Checklist of Trite & Tropes), Creative Pioneered Music (Not dull insipid Star Trek imitation), Real Companionship (Not just a Fuck Buddy) ETC.
@Amerikaner25 This is Doctor Who, and if you knew a fraction of how good it is, you wouldn't act like it's anything less than one of the best shows on television.
0:55 Did the Master bake a metal cake for the Doctor? Geez, the quality of the sets and props really took a dive in Series 8 and 9. Watching Jon Pertwee moralize with an obvious hand puppet was cringy even when I first saw this story as a kid in the 80s.
@Kate23795 That's really funny coming from a John Barrowman fan since he's usually out-acted by everyone he shares the screen with, or if he's alone by his own coat.
Smaller budget is an understatement. Compare this serial to _Inferno_ from the previous series. The quality is worlds apart. Even some of Troughton's B&W serials outclass this tatty mess. The director didn't even bother to fork out enough cash to show the TARDIS materializing properly. It just pops into view with a lazy hard cut.
@Lampgreen Thats interesting. I know of no nationality that has not tramples another at some point in its past. That is like saying your humanity is superior to all others, and you have just gotten through telling how you dont need to prove your non-existent superiority?
I was never a fan of Jo Grant. These scenes are the bare basic why I dislike her. She screams at everything unusual, very rude to scream at someone who looks different than her, especially another intelligent species. You don't see the Primitives screaming at her in fear right?
Quite simply one of the BEST scenes from the entire history of Doctor Who. Delgado and Pertwee were the perfect combination - the Doctor/Master relationship has NEVER been bettered. This is what PROPER Doctor Who looks like. And to think that the Master turned into 'Missy' under the incompetent and wayward hand of Steven Moffat. The Golden Age of Doctor Who is long gone. THIS is the programme at its BEST.
Blastfrom thepast Moffat is guilty of tarnishing many things in Dr ho, but nothing lasting that RTD didn't and Missy is one of the best Master incarnations since Delgado. She actually strives for the same goals as Delgado, maintaining his moral complexity and in her serious moments has a brilliant dynamic extremely akin to Pertwee/Delgado while also lending humour to the role that doesn't descend into camp supervillainy like Ainley or Simm's portrayals.
'Missy' didn't even come close to approaching the brilliance of Roger Delgado. She was excruciatingly bad. She ruined every scene she was in and was actually too embarrassing for words. She was the worst ever incarnation of the Master and, sadly, has now paved the way for a female Doctor. Missy had absolutely no redeeming features or qualities. She was execrable in every possible sense.
Your opinion, not at all true since you've ignored everything that doesn't support your claim. Gomez is a superb actress and has captured more of the nuances and characteristics of Delgado in her best moments than a majority of her predecessors put together. I have no hope you'll read this, but I'll leave this analysis here: Watch the Sea Devils then compare the Doctor's behaviour when visiting Delgado compared to Missy. The demands for gifts, mock geniality when talked to by the companion and the way their dynamic changes dramatically from old friends discussing the matter at hand to the Doctor being wary and retreating the second the Master shows his/her true colours are a striking resemblance to the Delgado/pertwee dynamic and in terms of conduct, the imperious way she enforces her opinions on others (Seb) and treats humans like underdeveloped mole rats ("nano-brain") contributed to the performance. The Witch's Familiar showed her preserving her life and attempting to gain power by allying with the Daleks the same way Delgado constantly did while Death in Heaven showed a righteousness and offer for the Doctor to rule similar to Colony in Space. Even the way which she killed Simm in The Doctor Falls had me thinking about one of the Master's first quotes on how "death is more frightening when it strikes invisibly," forcing Simm into an embrace in a very similar manner to the man smothered by a plastic Autons chair (can't remember the name). Missy is always seen as "hysterical" or "bananas" but unlike Ainley or Simm, it was rather obviously an act. You need only watch her peppily going from poking Davros in the eye to coldly lecturing the Doctor on how she put Clara with him so he knew the meaning of a "Hybrid" to realise that much. Or perhaps looking at her insane killing spreee ending in her sombrely forcing the Doctor to admit she'd won? Missy also always took her losses like an irritation with the same composure as the original rather than the ludicrous crying or screaming of many of her predecessors so I have never had the slightest issue seeing her as a brilliant Master. The only thing which would have made her closer to Delgado was actually having more evil plots where she was the star villain.
No one disputes that Gomez is a good actress. But she was TERRIBLE in this. She treated it like a comedy. How did the penultimate episode begin... "Loooooook at me... I'm Doctor Whoooooooooooo" Or whatever. Yes, exactly as I would expect the Master to behave! Not. With Gomez the character lost everything, all dignity, all sense of threat, all credibility,. She was a sitcom character, from a sitcom writer. And don't tell me that my opinion is 'not at all true'.
Well then don't treat your opinion like objective fact. She also silently murdered Simm with great finesse, resolved to help the Doctor and in WEAT, both allied with Simm and brutalised the Doctor. She only reconsidered after realising the Doctor was her only hope for survival like Delgado always did. Let's also ignore the Vault scenes discussing morality, the attempted alliance with the Daleks, the Cyberman army, the attempts to kill the Doctor and her cold blooded murders. Those weren't comedic, they were dramatic and jus the right shade too. She wasn't at all terrible in this, and the comic moments remain separate from the somber scenes.
I'm proud to be an American, a REAL American, one who doesn't have to attempt to trample upon those of other nationalities in order to "prove" my nonexistent superiority.
Delgado and Pertwee: Such fine actors and great chemistry. They'll never be beaten.
uh yeah they will, and peter, Tennant and Simm are great
@@sillygoose635 No, they're not. I'm a big fan of simm as an actor, but his master was dreadful. Cringe inducing in the end of time, nothing more than generic in any other episode until he was totally redefined in the doctor falls.
@@peterschofield1553 I was about to say them lmao I love the scottishness from both of them and their character development was amazing 🥰
@@peterschofield1553 Moffat turned he master into a joke with Missy
Totally, plus I think Delgado's untimely death was one of the reasons Pertwee chose to leave Doctor Who after 5 seasons. He took his death pretty hard.
"I want to see the universe, not rule it." - The 3rd Doctor talking to the Master
"You don't have to *own* the universe, just see it." - The 10th Doctor talking to the Master
Awe-inspiring.
One Piece Luffy Mentality
@@apocalypseinheritor1523 Don't compare Trash with Gold.
I just love Pertwee and Delgados chemistry together! Always, been the best of two Time Lord adversaries...
Agreed!
It's fortunate that nobody accidentally bumped that one lever that triggers the destruction of the entire city in the years prior
+SirKayGee LoL. Let's assume that the umm, space-alien thingy had to enable the self-destruct first and the Doctor just hit the 'go' button.
Yeah. That's it. No breaches of basic safe control design here.
SirKayGee
You are being impudent, I sense.
The cleaning lady could have accidentally destroyed the city while dusting, and
in doing so turned the city into yet more dust! 😂😂😂
@@irrevenant3 Yes the alien guy had to put in a password and solve a Recaptcha.
"We could be gods!"
"You are not fit to be a god."
40 something years later, runs for Prime Minister and wins; then proceeds to act godlike.
You take what small victories you can get.
45 years
New Who is crap.
@@fjccommish oof you're hard. I'll stay away from you
@@fredh1720 as the Average British Guy said 11 months ago, " You take what small victories you can get" .... New Who is... best in small amounts, not great but not entirely bad, just the writing I dont like - personal opinion
that being said... the last finally ruin the show and made no sense in all the years DW was on the air
It's the sound effects and acting that makes the original doctor who not special effects
I love how the Master only tries to kill the Doctor after he baiscally refuses to become bffs again :) This is what was lost in the Master until Missy came along.
Reagan Tao I think that’s forcing! Not really asking?
My dad thought that it was so sad to see those species and their leader die, and so did I!
They were bloody ugly though! 😂😂😂
@@marcse7enAs you would be to any other species. :P
@@minicle426 You're no bloody oil painting yourself, you cheeky git!
Classic Doctor Who. I loved the chemistry between the Master and the Doctor. Jon Pertwee and Roger Delgado were two fine actors.
I wonder how much explosive was expended in British quarries on account of Dr Who and Blake's 7.
i see the masters laser gun got jump cut out of existence
It was very funny that The Master's laser gun vanished into thin air before he could use it to kill anyone else standing in his way.
Teleportation. The advanced civilisation's solution to everything.
azure rainbow The Master: Oh for crying out loud!
that explosion was pretty good considering it was only the 70's or when ever it was filmed!
Its a real explosion
The best MASTER ever
Agreed! Delgado was amazing! Such a tragedy it was all cut short. Delgado and Pertwee were great friends.
[Master] "What is it?"
[Monty Python] "THE BIG CHEESE!"
Back then when you were not aware that they grew up together, you could sense there was a very strong connection between the master and the doctor. When was life or death they were forced to work together to Escape.
Stunning effects @ 2:35
“No! Why with this power within the cosmos, WE COULD BE GODS!”
Umm, you wish Master! Your just lucky that The Doctor is compassionate to his old friend, YOU!
@Androo 64 The Master is actually the Doctor's brother. Which is why the Doctor is reluctant to kill him. Pity the Master has no such reservations.
@@CuteNekoHibiki ...Noo I’m pretty sure they are childhood friends?... even the official Doctor Who channel with the playlist’s description about the master says he is a old friend? Dunno where u got that info from?
The Guardian always reminds me of Deep Roy because it rather looks like the kind of role he would play. However, it is clearly a puppet and voiced by Norman Atkyns.
Who's Deep Roy?
Banjo Pink Little person actor who played the Oompa Loompas in the Johnny Depp version of Willy Wonka. Was also in The Never-Ending Story and several episodes of Doctor Who.
@@fivebearrugs and the X-Files
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought it was a shrunken jon pertwee , no joke I thought the master had stuck him in the microwave.
Of course, models will always be more realistic than CGI, but sometimes the CGI is required and getting it to look professional is extemely important. I'm glad we could somewhat agree on this topic :)
CGI wasn't "required" in the "Golden Age" of "Doctor Who" the 60s and 70s, when the show was hugely popular with massive viewing figures! 😂😂😂
A combination of both, model work and sympathetic CGI works best, like when they retrospectively fix laser effects etc, you don't want what George Lucas ended up doing 'fixing' the original Star Wars trilogy every week.
Models will not always be better then CGI, CGI allows you to do whatever you can think of while models allow you to do what you are capable of making
@@kenmcvittie3584George Lucas bashing is so tiring now. 🙄
It doesn't get any better than Jon Pertwee and Roger Delgado.
The self destruct control was a bit to easy to throw by accident. Usually there'd be more to it, like turning two controls simultaneously. A good example was the one in Forbidden Planet
It's possible that the Leader, whose mind was very advanced, first had to give some psionic command to enable the self-destruct, and did so.
The beauty of Doctor Who is you got to meet new creatures and aliens for each adventure. The downside was the props department had to throw them together with whatever was lying around the studio. In this case, a baby doll and a large ball of cotton wool, it seems.
The Doctor doesn't care about being a master of the universe. His destiny to see the universe, not rule it.
Oooo small lil guy on a thrown spontaniously coming out from a wall. 0:31
2:14 Dr: It this the self destruct lever?
Alien guy: No.
Dr: How about this one?
Alien guy: No.
Dr: This one?
Alien guy: Shrug. Not sure now.
Dr: Maybe this one.
Alien guy: Pull it and find out.
old series didnt need rely on CGI, (not only because didnt have the technology during the 1960's -70's either, 1980's did have CGI-The Last Star Fighter movie used CGI ) what made the series so great was the ability to make the costumes and the props from JUNK, lot of skill is required to make low budget models and everyday items to make props look somewhat convinceing-which is more than what todays CGI crap movies spends,sure the 3D has improved, but dont need spend so much for a movie ticket
I like your style, the Master can learn from you!
"What a strange person!"
Who said that?
It was funny that the Master‘s weapon vanished in his hand by the leader of the primitive city because the guardian sensed the Master wanted the machine to rule the Universe. But if the guardian killed the Master as punishment for trying to kill him,would the Doctor take the Master‘s TARDIS,knowing that it can change its shape wherever it goes,or send it back to his home planet after finding his TARDIS,stuck in the shape of a Police Box?
0:53 "You have here a WONDERFUL WEAPON by with it you could bring GOOD and PEACE to every world in the galaxy!!" 😈😈😈
A great debate between Good & Evil. Still relevant in 2022.
Kind of, bit hit and miss, but the sets, acting, music and stories are great,
Whereas tge New Series is ALL MISS! 😂😂😂 Now that BBC are totally INSANE, with their stupid sex-change Doctor! I mean, has anybody told Susan that here grandfather is now her GRANDMOTHER? 😂😂😂 The show in its current form is an embarrassment and is beyond ridiculous! 👎
And so the BBC special effects people try to blow up bits of another quarry. 😆❤️
No, it's the same quarry. Christ what a pounding it took over the years!
All right, we're screwed.
And why Delgado's Master is iconic and a billion times better than any representation since - especially the horrible pastiches in the so called "new" series.
Very good Dr who
Here the master shows that he's someone with a goal and simply doesn't stop at anything to reach it. He's not a psychopath more than a politician declaring war. They're not psychopaths but they're not "good" either, I really prefer the master to be a conqueror in search of power than a maniac just killing people.
Yep, too many mushrooms for breakfast!
I don't get it: why did they zoom in and out on the puppet?
To create the effect that he was dying? Perhaps something to do with the doomsday weapons effects? I dunno man, it was the 70’s, they could be a bit too ambitious for their effects budget.
no no, not you, harrietamidala 1691, I was, in fact , directing that comment towards Amerikaner25 himself, the comment was supposed to be in reply to his. My apologies for any offence I might have inadvertantly caused. I must say I am quite a fanatic myself.
Rule or be ruled is a basic law of life, Master?
Well you'd better go tell every cat ever 'cause they're alive and I don't think they know.
I certainly don't! :D
Delgado was a good Master however the current Master Dhwarn has elements of him with his TCE when Delgado passed away I think Pertwee didn’t want to be in Doctor Who anymore as Manning also left she would return in SJA this time Matt Smith is the Doctor
Official BBC upload at 240p Quality?
Is that the Moxx of Balhoon?!?!?!?!
Paul Paul, if he'd spat at the Doctor, I'd agree. LOL
Well, I was speaking in terms of special effects, not storylines. I hope you're able to somewhat agree on that part?
Always loved this story, if only the effects were better.
This is SOOOO Much better written, Realised, acted, Scored, etc than that new Soap shite that uses the Title for BBC's Profit.
REAL Sci-Fi. The Classics will NEVER be beaten. Not unless they completely BURNED All the new crap, & Sent it's ashes into space, & Started again with REAL actors (not students), REAL FX (not CGI), Inspired Writting (Not a Checklist of Trite & Tropes), Creative Pioneered Music (Not dull insipid Star Trek imitation), Real Companionship (Not just a Fuck Buddy) ETC.
@Amerikaner25 This is Doctor Who, and if you knew a fraction of how good it is, you wouldn't act like it's anything less than one of the best shows on television.
He’ll use it for evil
behind the plot of every Doctor Who episode is an egotistical megalomaniac villain.
0:55 Did the Master bake a metal cake for the Doctor? Geez, the quality of the sets and props really took a dive in Series 8 and 9. Watching Jon Pertwee moralize with an obvious hand puppet was cringy even when I first saw this story as a kid in the 80s.
Cameraman, stop mucking about with the zoom lens!
@Kate23795 That's really funny coming from a John Barrowman fan since he's usually out-acted by everyone he shares the screen with, or if he's alone by his own coat.
That was the weapon? It looked like a radio and two cakes. Good acting, though.
@Lampgreen ??
its diddy dom
Some comments.
1. Norman Atykins
I'm afraid you seem to be a couple of centuries behind in our activities, plus, this was in the 1970's. The show's improved.
Plus, like any like any show, you've got your big budget and your small budget episodes, this was one of the episodes that had a smaller budget.
Excuse me, not episodes in the case of classic Who, but serials.
Smaller budget is an understatement. Compare this serial to _Inferno_ from the previous series. The quality is worlds apart. Even some of Troughton's B&W serials outclass this tatty mess. The director didn't even bother to fork out enough cash to show the TARDIS materializing properly. It just pops into view with a lazy hard cut.
I know, I was referring to Amerikaner25's behavior and trying to delay the reinforcement of the negative stereotype of the American citizen.
@Lampgreen Thats interesting. I know of no nationality that has not tramples another at some point in its past. That is like saying your humanity is superior to all others, and you have just gotten through telling how you dont need to prove your non-existent superiority?
And that feeling would be any different when you are another nationality because???
Beside this is british...
I was never a fan of Jo Grant. These scenes are the bare basic why I dislike her. She screams at everything unusual, very rude to scream at someone who looks different than her, especially another intelligent species. You don't see the Primitives screaming at her in fear right?
They are better than the New series right
Quite simply one of the BEST scenes from the entire history of Doctor Who. Delgado and Pertwee were the perfect combination - the Doctor/Master relationship has NEVER been bettered. This is what PROPER Doctor Who looks like. And to think that the Master turned into 'Missy' under the incompetent and wayward hand of Steven Moffat. The Golden Age of Doctor Who is long gone. THIS is the programme at its BEST.
Blastfrom thepast Moffat is guilty of tarnishing many things in Dr ho, but nothing lasting that RTD didn't and Missy is one of the best Master incarnations since Delgado. She actually strives for the same goals as Delgado, maintaining his moral complexity and in her serious moments has a brilliant dynamic extremely akin to Pertwee/Delgado while also lending humour to the role that doesn't descend into camp supervillainy like Ainley or Simm's portrayals.
'Missy' didn't even come close to approaching the brilliance of Roger Delgado. She was excruciatingly bad. She ruined every scene she was in and was actually too embarrassing for words. She was the worst ever incarnation of the Master and, sadly, has now paved the way for a female Doctor. Missy had absolutely no redeeming features or qualities. She was execrable in every possible sense.
Your opinion, not at all true since you've ignored everything that doesn't support your claim. Gomez is a superb actress and has captured more of the nuances and characteristics of Delgado in her best moments than a majority of her predecessors put together. I have no hope you'll read this, but I'll leave this analysis here:
Watch the Sea Devils then compare the Doctor's behaviour when visiting Delgado compared to Missy. The demands for gifts, mock geniality when talked to by the companion and the way their dynamic changes dramatically from old friends discussing the matter at hand to the Doctor being wary and retreating the second the Master shows his/her true colours are a striking resemblance to the Delgado/pertwee dynamic and in terms of conduct, the imperious way she enforces her opinions on others (Seb) and treats humans like underdeveloped mole rats ("nano-brain") contributed to the performance. The Witch's Familiar showed her preserving her life and attempting to gain power by allying with the Daleks the same way Delgado constantly did while Death in Heaven showed a righteousness and offer for the Doctor to rule similar to Colony in Space. Even the way which she killed Simm in The Doctor Falls had me thinking about one of the Master's first quotes on how "death is more frightening when it strikes invisibly," forcing Simm into an embrace in a very similar manner to the man smothered by a plastic Autons chair (can't remember the name). Missy is always seen as "hysterical" or "bananas" but unlike Ainley or Simm, it was rather obviously an act. You need only watch her peppily going from poking Davros in the eye to coldly lecturing the Doctor on how she put Clara with him so he knew the meaning of a "Hybrid" to realise that much. Or perhaps looking at her insane killing spreee ending in her sombrely forcing the Doctor to admit she'd won? Missy also always took her losses like an irritation with the same composure as the original rather than the ludicrous crying or screaming of many of her predecessors so I have never had the slightest issue seeing her as a brilliant Master. The only thing which would have made her closer to Delgado was actually having more evil plots where she was the star villain.
No one disputes that Gomez is a good actress. But she was TERRIBLE in this. She treated it like a comedy. How did the penultimate episode begin... "Loooooook at me... I'm Doctor Whoooooooooooo" Or whatever. Yes, exactly as I would expect the Master to behave! Not. With Gomez the character lost everything, all dignity, all sense of threat, all credibility,. She was a sitcom character, from a sitcom writer. And don't tell me that my opinion is 'not at all true'.
Well then don't treat your opinion like objective fact. She also silently murdered Simm with great finesse, resolved to help the Doctor and in WEAT, both allied with Simm and brutalised the Doctor. She only reconsidered after realising the Doctor was her only hope for survival like Delgado always did. Let's also ignore the Vault scenes discussing morality, the attempted alliance with the Daleks, the Cyberman army, the attempts to kill the Doctor and her cold blooded murders. Those weren't comedic, they were dramatic and jus the right shade too. She wasn't at all terrible in this, and the comic moments remain separate from the somber scenes.
I'm proud to be an American, a REAL American, one who doesn't have to attempt to trample upon those of other nationalities in order to "prove" my nonexistent superiority.
scrap :P
"In God We Trust"
well its true, i love americans. what have they done to u. u are one though lol
no offence
lol that's actually pretty funny. to be honest, couldn't really watch monty python with all the screaming and the 1920's humor
F**KING COMMERCIAL!!!!!