I hated all parts of it and couldnt bring myself through playing through it, just gave up at like 80% of the way through and just deleted my char. its the worst kind of twilight-fanfiction writing i seen in years.
This channel is the best WoW has to offer. Your love of the game is obvious and your sense of humor captures the best that the game has to offer. And these videos keep getting better.
Also proved himself to be the only non-shill in the community Everyone else ran to ff14 and "permanently quit wow omg I can't believe bwizzard is so eviwl i totawwy won't crawl back to wow content when 14 dies in a month" Every other content creator for this fucking game is only here to make cash, but this guy takes his time to make awesome videos he clearly cares about. Passion over subcount.
Awww you totally missed the perfect oportunity to adapt the joke where you spy on the Horde meeting. And Garrosh orders Sylvanas to not use any more Blight, she agrees, and the moment he's out the door she turns around and orders her troops to deploy even more Blight, that was comedy gold.
@@christianhaegler4817 Garrosh was the oringal Orc to berate the horde member in that part, then in was sourfang, then it was the other major orc...before they did character assassination with Garrosh he was a respectable though missguided orc at the worst. And this is coming from someone who really didnt like him after the incident with Voljin
The Teldrassil thing fucking kills me lol. Worgen are still getting boned 4 expansions later. Do any other races even come close to the near constant streak of L's they have?
I never really thought about the forsaken attacking gilneas as lorderon civillians, just adding more reasons for gilneas being the best starting zone for lore
Oh yeah, it's not really talked about much in game, but there are a significant number of the forsaken who consider themselves to be a sort of continuation of the kingdom of lordaeron. With Callia Menethil back in the picture, their claim to being such is much stronger than in the past.
@@mrrodgers0 not even to mention that Lady Menethil is a holy light purified version of an undead. If she could be purified in such a way, others could be as well. That might even cause an alliance, or at least alliance friendly, faction of the undead led by her to come about.
The fact that we never received a war front on Gilneas during BfA, the perfect opportunity for the worgen to attempt to reclaim their home and secure the Eastern Kingdoms almost entirely for the Alliance only shows how useless and time-wasting that expansion was.
Dialogue at the end of Siege of Orgrimmar suggests the Alliance got it back in the peace treaty to end that war, it's just...never followed up on in any way because restoring Gilneas would be a lot of development work for another dead capital city nobody visits.
I can only imagine the rewards and rare items that would be offered as incentives to visit the city. A Gilneas Liberation Front transmog set, a few battle pets stylized for the region like maybe an enchanted lantern recolor or perhaps even the ghost of Liams' trusty steed as a Mount. The World Boss for the zone would have to be Koroth the Hillbreaker: an Ettin that was a part of the Worgen Starting Zone that harassed the Crowley Orchard looking for Horses to eat, and is later tricked by Liam into thinking that a group of Forsaken that were pursuing them had stolen his banner. The best possible drop from Koroth would have to be something called "The Highwaymans' Spacious Stagecoach" A Stagecoach Mount that serves the role of a "Taxi Mount" similar to the Travelers' Tundra Mammoth, Grand Expedition Yak, and the Caravan Brutosaur where you drive the carriage and chauffer NPCs' that are also a part of the Mount: in this case instead of a basic repair vendor, or a Transmogrifier, or an Auctioneer; the Stagecoach would have a Banker as the special passenger you are hauling from place-to-place. What would make this mount stand out most of all would be that outside of the two seats taken up by your NPCs' you can also have up to seven other players riding on the Stagecoach with you: 4 inside the Stagecoach, One next to you, and two in the back, and the mounts which pull the Carriage can be assigned from your own Ground Mount Collection with Horses for Alliance Players and Skeletal Horses for Horde Players as the set default.
I personally feel Greymane is one of the best written characters in WoW at the moment. In this series, it seems like most characters can either be at one of two ends of the spectrum. Either they keep making mistakes that pile up until they've turned into a full-on villain, or they rarely make mistakes and only small ones at that, eventually becoming a paragon of virtue. In this world that's become increasingly black and white, Greymane has been allowed to make a lot of awful mistakes and still learn and grow from them, becoming a better king and a better person than he was before. Back during the alliance of Lordaeron he eventually pulled out from a mixture of looking out for only his own people and his own pride. When the Worgen attacked his people outside the wall due to his own order to summon them, he did not open the gates and risk bringing the infected inside. He then took to going out in hunting parties for Worgen where he was bit himself, and he also fought a civil war within his own kingdom just because an old friend sent some Gilnean troops to assist the Alliance. All of this led to his kingdom falling and succumbing to the Worgen curse and the Forsaken. But now we've seen him become better. In Wolfheart, when Varian was overcome with his anger and mocked Greymane, mercilessly insulting him and throwing the blame of Gilneas' fall squarely on his shoulders, he did not bite back. He accepted it, and even accepted Varian's initial ruling that the Gilneans would not be accepted back into the Alliance. He accepted the blame. In Before the Storm we saw him overcome his blind hatred of all Forsaken and focus it instead squarely on Sylvanas, recognizing that they were their own people and had made their own mistakes. In Legion, we saw him act strategically and destroy an item of great value to Sylvanas to disrupt her plans rather than trying to outright kill her, clearly keeping his anger in check. And in Battle for Azeroth, when the Night Elves needed help the Alliance couldn't provide, we saw Genn stand by their side and pledge Gilneas to their effort, even stating that they would gladly focus on helping the Night Elves rather than retaking their own kingdom. And he also assisted greatly with unifying Kul Tiras, even calling back to his own mistakes by saying that he would teach them the lesson he had to learn the hard way so many years ago. We've seen him change so much over the years and become a new father figure for Anduin in the wake of Varian's death. And I just think it's so great to see this consistent arc play out when other characters have been...inconsistent at best.
He really is the only character in game with the most character development. Be it bonding with Varian or the bond between Genn and Anduin. Anduin struggles with losing his father, Genn struggles with losing his son. The cutscene outside of tomb where Anduin comes to terms with loss...the cinematography of Genn standing there and then seeing a vision of Varian and the music swells...it was genuinely beautiful. Don't see that much in this game. At least not since legion
Part of me was really thinking at the end something was gonna happen like "And now the Worgen live peacefully with the night elfs.....right?" and then show Teldrasil burning xD.
@@RavenGlenn what?? I thought it was blizzards psychopathic writing of Sylavnus and her charector that burned the tree. There is no sense in blaming greymane for that. U can definately blame him for a lot more but not that. Sylvanus did it for the jailer whatever grey did r didn't, did not matter.
Afterward Genn was so hung up on his son, he completely neglected his daughter so she became an assassin and tried to become a Worgen to get his attention.
The incompetency doesn't end there either. He messed up multiple times in Legion, and stood their like a baffoon when Anduin was kidnapped right in front of him.
He also attacked Sylvanas' fleet in an attempt to kill her(the current leader of The Horde) during a wartime pact between The Alliance and The Horde. She turned around and burned down Teldrassil in response.
Angry old man yells at cloud. Before that: Smashes a lantern and considers it fitting revenge for his entire kingdom and his heir. Blizz really do Genn dirty lol. But of all characters in the entire franchise Genn has had the most character development and is actually pretty damn cool in legion/BFA--especially the cinematics.
I still pray we some day see Gilneas rebuilt and turned into a social hub. It's got some of the most enjoyable atmosphere and aesthetics in the entire game. It's a shame to see it destroyed and untouched for over 10 years
Well thanks to recent lore developments the undead decided since they have a new captial there discussing pulling out of gilneas to improve relations with the alliance and repay them for there assistance. So yeah we may achualy see it make a return. After the dragon isles thing of course.
Best place to RP ever. No ERP involved, but a pure RP where there is a player acting like a proper priest. Crime scenes, detective, guards, nobles etc and no slut house like Goldshire.
Even MORE recent lore developments, narrative dev confirmed we'll be seeing a return to Gilneas in-game, not just in a book or a short story. It has come up in shadowlands and in dragonflight, so it's sure to be soon. Probably in a small patch like with the small quest chain for eredar or the new warlock pets. They've been adding little living world bits here n there.
They are my favorite, because they kept fighting to the end, and then some. They faced adversity and failure over and over again, but for the longest time they didnt give up. Eventually they could either die and hoon the ranks of the Scourge, or retreat and regroup and love to fight another day. I bet they would habe had a bettee chanc eif their king didnt seperste from the alliance.
@Dominatrix in Distress i feel yogg saron was wreaking some havoc but can't do much in northrend because too many undeads he can't control, the trolls where empowering themselves with the loas, and the magic dragons where too "wise" to be controlled by yogg so its pretty much limited to control the keepers and they have 2 dungeons and the ulduar raid so its seen fine to me
This vid brought back some unexpected nostalgia feelings. I still remember when my mom took me to the store and bought me cataclysm and the moment i started a Worgen and quested through Gilneas. Such an amazing feeling honestly, i feel like Revendreth tried to be Gilneas-ish but it doesn't have nearly the same charm as Gilneas did when it released and we got to experience it. God i wish i revert time just to experience it like new again!
You forgot to mention the 20 minute wait for the gryphon section of the battle. But still, this made me want to make yet ANOTHER worgen just to do the quest line... that music... it still gives me chills
Liams Speech is lowkey one of the best things i heared in wow period. If someone gave that Speech IRL i would run in Head first with no Hessitation whatsoever
If this outro music were played at the end of a movie in a cinema, I'd stay at my chair till I fall asleep. I really enjoyed those two parts. It was better than watching Netflix. Honestly. For Gilneas!
Dude, I got so worried about your radio silence. I started to wonder what happened to one of my favorite wow machinima makers. I have to admit that I have not played wow for years and the game itself does not interest me anymore, but I always enjoy watching your productions! Keep it up!
Azeroth, a world, where plate armor can be enchanted, to be light enough, that you can swim in it... where the blood of an old god is used as an material to build a fortress, armor and weapons... but just wearing clothes, that are 1-2 sizes bigger than your usual size, so it fits, once you transform (and maybe use a durable material) is just too much to imagine :) .. funny video as usual
@@Krosis29 By attacking the entire Horde fleet with one airship, resulting in hundreds of lost lives from both sides which probably resulted in the Legion getting a foothold in Stormheim...But sure.
While playing Legion that always annoyed the hell out of me. "Oh Genn learned, oh Genn this, oh Genn that" but then he attacks the people they are supposed to work with because they "abandoned" them during the first attack, where Varian died, without asking "Why?" even once. I like Worgen, I despise Genn.
@@smugron1101 I despise all Alliance races during Legion because they all cry "ThE hOrDe BeTrAyEd Us!" without even knowing why the Horde left the Broken Shore but the Alliance are supposed to be the good guys
The worgen starting zone is one of the examples of blizzard story question done right, to this day i still just run through that quest chain just to do the story and then delete the character around lvl 13
"We did it father... we took back our city!.. we... took... back..." "My lord, horde reinforcements are coming quickly, we need to retreat!" I'm not crying, you're crying!
20:07 I feel like the start of that boat ride was like: "hey can you change into human form your kinda taking up a lot of space" "do you... have any spare pants?"
I just came across a thought... if the abandoned part of the kingdome paid the taxes before the wall's construction... technically Genn built a wall and made them pay for it
So, we gonna get a part three about how Genn incidentally attacked Sylvanas and the horde during the Legion's invasion and would've been the technical spark and justification of the Fourth War in his bloodlust?
Well, Azeroth has been rid of all old gods, right? I bet next expansion will expand on them not being around having positive effects. Maybe they'll even do something about that giant fucking sword sticking out of Azeroth.
@@dreamermagister8561 Old Gods can't be destroyed (because they're void based), but we removed them from Azeroth at least (AFAIK - I'm still catching up on lore)
I appreciate your sense for the pathos. The comedy is good, but acting out the emotions these characters are going through and conveying how important this history is for these fictional characters is why your Forest Troll video and this series are some of my favorites. You put real work in, and it shows, and it's worth it.
Keep doing this kind of content man so many don't know the lore of wow bcuz they don't read quests and this really helps bring it under the light....love your content
I could be wrong but didn't the cataclysm hit first then the frosaken invaded. They previously hadn't been able to because gilneas and reefs that blocked the ships but the cata removed them.
These videos are soooo good! I'm not normally interested in these types of videos, but you do such a great job at story-telling while adding your own spin and humor on things! Such a great mix. Keep up the amazing work!
Fun fact: Varian Wrynn, though obviously not a Worgen, was guided through the rituals of taming the beast and afterwards unlocked the connection he had to Goldrinn (that the orcs saw when they first saw him fight as Lo'Gosh) and for a time had access to Goldrinn's strength, speed, and ferocity without having to change into a Worgen form. It wasn't permanent but he did retain some of that (kinda like how in DBZ Battle of the Gods Goku's body got used to Super Saiyan God form and he could still keep up with Beerus even when his time ran out.)
Genn Greymane was and is on a patg to redemption ever since. They didnt really develop his character that frequently but over the years he started to be more down to earth, reasonable man than how he was back during the second war and onwards. He still is a bit of a self rigtheous bastard sometimes but he s growing more and more. He is a bit too furious but that is more because of the curse than anything else. Be certainly doesnt understand the value of peace as much as Anduin does or Varian did right before his death.
You did a great job covering the story of the gilneans and the worgen curse. I played that start zone once to see the lore and quests, but seeing the story layed out in a cohesive video like this is much better. Thank you! Also i have to mention that the Ashenvale theme which plays at the end is one of the best songs in WOW.
I loved this too much man... this makes me wish there was a WOW cinematic universe where we can watch every epic WOW story unfold just the way you show it in your vids.. Too amazing for words.
That can't be the end! You haven't yet covered how this GENIUS declares the 4th war on the horde FOR NO REASON, in the middle of a freaking LEGION INVASION! This dofus not only almost got the entire world wiped out, but the war HE STARTED, got Teldrassil burned, most of the world devastated, AND gave the jailer All the souls he could wish for. And then stood around going "durrrr" while anduin got kidnapped. Truly a great king
I am a taciturn man when it comes to RUclips comments; however, I cannot help but type at this moment. Your videos are the most entertaining I have seen on the topic of WoW lore; if I were not a pauper, I would fully support you on Patreon. Keep up the good work!
Bah... No matter how introverted or socially phobic you are, you *_can_* and *_do_* get used to writing comments once you try doing it every now and then (RUclips specifically in this case). Don't be shy, maybe you'll find it worthwhile. Unless you just, don't have the energy for it that is. My 2 cents.
I'll be honest, it is way too funny to hear the first line of the sponsorship spot 'Are you balding?' and then immediately skip to chapter one with the worgen attacking. Cure balding now with our patented werewolf curse!
That would be so badass actually. Just imagine that big Clocktower in the middle but with a dark Vampire-ish look to it and the city. I hope they do that at some point since gilneas right now isn't really used for anything.
I personally find it hard to believe that gilneas wasn't already conquered. The place got beaten and bruised, larger cities fell for lesser thrats than Guildeas, but i guess Blizzard forgot them just like they forgot the Worgen in general
This is so accurate in terms of what the forsaken is willing to throw at you vs. you never see anything of these when you're a forsaken yourself, just two ghouls and 2 abominations roaming the city. But when you're an enemy to them even for a horde player? MAN, you'll see mecha giant undead Elvis Presley hitting you with a legendary banjo.
Well done as always, Platinum WoW! Despite this being a well mockery at times of what Genn has done you did also a really fantastic job of showing just some epic moments with the character and the lore. Excited to see this carry forward in the future!
I have such a soft spot in my heart for this crusty starting zone. Liam's speech always gets me too. Seeing it all again lowkey makes me miss the game. Shame that starting zone itself is starting to fall apart mechanically.
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One of my favorite elements of Cataclysm leveling is the fact that the story of Silverpine Forest takes place during the forsaken assault in the worgen starting zone. I love seeing that kind of parity in story telling
11:00 - Wow. The leaders of Azeroth REALLY hate taking any sort of real responsibility for their actions or their people’s actions. Malfurion: “Shove ‘em in the Emerald Dream. Not my problem, anymore!”
not really, she needed more corpses to sustain her faction as they can obviously not reproduce. it was a good opportunity for sylvanas. if you played wc3 you would know she wasn't shy to use deceive and betrayals for her own benefit
@@alihorda ofc she is not, but attacking gilneas was not part of her initial plans. Garrosh wanted a port at EK, and used Forsaken as fodder before he himself led an attack but ofc he never did because another potential port appeared due to Cataclysm and he sent his fleet there.
Eventually she had a plan to get a hold of it I am sure. But already depleted Forsaken military was streched thin by Garrosh's orders, and back in the old lore of the reasons she was using the blight extensively was to decrease potential casuallties to her army. Considering the Blight (Forsaken) affects both dead and alive it wasnt the most efficient way to capture a city or conquer a land. As evil as Sylvanas was, she was not a fool.
All of this was retconned during Legion or pre Legion, in one of the books and this one particularly looked unnecessary to me. The acts of Sylvanas was the reason Forsaken were so loyal to her. Her defiance against Garrosh in order to save Forsaken lives would generate even more loyalty than anything else. Sylvanas never cared as much as Forsaken beleived she did, or rather not the way they thought. She only wanted an empire, an empire to surround herself to escape death as much as possible. But again, all this lore was retconned.
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The Worgen starter scenario was so good
Agreed
It was my first when I started playing wow
I legit play worgen and just do Gilneas. I know its old, and can drag a lil bit but damn if it's not a good starting scenario
I hated all parts of it and couldnt bring myself through playing through it, just gave up at like 80% of the way through and just deleted my char. its the worst kind of twilight-fanfiction writing i seen in years.
I start a worgen every now and then just to do it again
Remember when Greymane told Anduin about the great battle at Icecrown Citadel?
Remember how he wasn't even there?
real this guy is dumb ( just kidding )
Love the way Greymane always yells "SYLVANAS!". Like I bet when he stubs his toe he yells it just because.
When in doubt, blame Sylvanas.
It's always her fault.
>Genn taking a shit
>Poop splashes water up his butt
>SYLVANAS!!!
@@robertclarke7755 LMAO
@@inciacci549 I mean, you're not wrong.
Kind of like how Blizzard fans stub their toe and yell “CHINA!”
This channel is the best WoW has to offer. Your love of the game is obvious and your sense of humor captures the best that the game has to offer. And these videos keep getting better.
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Also proved himself to be the only non-shill in the community
Everyone else ran to ff14 and "permanently quit wow omg I can't believe bwizzard is so eviwl i totawwy won't crawl back to wow content when 14 dies in a month"
Every other content creator for this fucking game is only here to make cash, but this guy takes his time to make awesome videos he clearly cares about. Passion over subcount.
Him favouriting a comment sucking up to him speaks a massive level of insecurity
@@lingricen8077 nothing wrong with a thank you....
Awww you totally missed the perfect oportunity to adapt the joke where you spy on the Horde meeting.
And Garrosh orders Sylvanas to not use any more Blight, she agrees, and the moment he's out the door
she turns around and orders her troops to deploy even more Blight, that was comedy gold.
I was going to add that but just ran out of time. It is really funny!
@Dominatrix in Distress what about the ending of the Horde side of the Stonetalon Mountains Questline?
But it wasn't Garrosh but a rando Orc?
You meant next level 900iq strategy to break alliance and spit on them
@@christianhaegler4817 Garrosh was the oringal Orc to berate the horde member in that part, then in was sourfang, then it was the other major orc...before they did character assassination with Garrosh he was a respectable though missguided orc at the worst. And this is coming from someone who really didnt like him after the incident with Voljin
worgen intro questline summed up " and then it got worse"
and then, BFA nuke Teldrassil, yup, got worse xD
“And it still is getting worse”
Lets be honest.. They deserved it.
The Teldrassil thing fucking kills me lol. Worgen are still getting boned 4 expansions later. Do any other races even come close to the near constant streak of L's they have?
@@ruecumbers Gnomes, orcs, Night elves?
I never really thought about the forsaken attacking gilneas as lorderon civillians, just adding more reasons for gilneas being the best starting zone for lore
Oh yeah, it's not really talked about much in game, but there are a significant number of the forsaken who consider themselves to be a sort of continuation of the kingdom of lordaeron. With Callia Menethil back in the picture, their claim to being such is much stronger than in the past.
@@mrrodgers0 not even to mention that Lady Menethil is a holy light purified version of an undead. If she could be purified in such a way, others could be as well. That might even cause an alliance, or at least alliance friendly, faction of the undead led by her to come about.
@@joshuaa7813 that actually sounds like a good idea
like a soft counterpart to an allied human Alteraci race to Horde
@@mrrodgers0
I am sorry but Liam's speech has no right to be that good
yes it does
Yet another example of Horde being the bad guys.
That's because it's wasn't his speech , it's Churchill's most famous speech, Blizz shamelessly stole it.
@@rdsasuke1 I think its just meant to be a nod to it and not stealing it lol
It's sad that Liam had to die before escaping with the rest of the survivors.
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Ya I mean maybe he should try the product out .
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The fact that we never received a war front on Gilneas during BfA, the perfect opportunity for the worgen to attempt to reclaim their home and secure the Eastern Kingdoms almost entirely for the Alliance only shows how useless and time-wasting that expansion was.
so true!
Remember how long the Gnomes had to wait to recover their city... the Worgen just have to wait longer.
Dialogue at the end of Siege of Orgrimmar suggests the Alliance got it back in the peace treaty to end that war, it's just...never followed up on in any way because restoring Gilneas would be a lot of development work for another dead capital city nobody visits.
Shut up I loved BfA
I can only imagine the rewards and rare items that would be offered as incentives to visit the city. A Gilneas Liberation Front transmog set, a few battle pets stylized for the region like maybe an enchanted lantern recolor or perhaps even the ghost of Liams' trusty steed as a Mount.
The World Boss for the zone would have to be Koroth the Hillbreaker: an Ettin that was a part of the Worgen Starting Zone that harassed the Crowley Orchard looking for Horses to eat, and is later tricked by Liam into thinking that a group of Forsaken that were pursuing them had stolen his banner. The best possible drop from Koroth would have to be something called "The Highwaymans' Spacious Stagecoach" A Stagecoach Mount that serves the role of a "Taxi Mount" similar to the Travelers' Tundra Mammoth, Grand Expedition Yak, and the Caravan Brutosaur where you drive the carriage and chauffer NPCs' that are also a part of the Mount: in this case instead of a basic repair vendor, or a Transmogrifier, or an Auctioneer; the Stagecoach would have a Banker as the special passenger you are hauling from place-to-place. What would make this mount stand out most of all would be that outside of the two seats taken up by your NPCs' you can also have up to seven other players riding on the Stagecoach with you: 4 inside the Stagecoach, One next to you, and two in the back, and the mounts which pull the Carriage can be assigned from your own Ground Mount Collection with Horses for Alliance Players and Skeletal Horses for Horde Players as the set default.
if only I could catch the worgen curse, I would never have to worry about hair loss again
LMAOOO
You'll gain a slight vulnerability to rabies.
oh no, but you will become a FURRY!
@@Sanguiris bald worgen
Is this asmongold second account ?
I personally feel Greymane is one of the best written characters in WoW at the moment. In this series, it seems like most characters can either be at one of two ends of the spectrum. Either they keep making mistakes that pile up until they've turned into a full-on villain, or they rarely make mistakes and only small ones at that, eventually becoming a paragon of virtue. In this world that's become increasingly black and white, Greymane has been allowed to make a lot of awful mistakes and still learn and grow from them, becoming a better king and a better person than he was before.
Back during the alliance of Lordaeron he eventually pulled out from a mixture of looking out for only his own people and his own pride. When the Worgen attacked his people outside the wall due to his own order to summon them, he did not open the gates and risk bringing the infected inside. He then took to going out in hunting parties for Worgen where he was bit himself, and he also fought a civil war within his own kingdom just because an old friend sent some Gilnean troops to assist the Alliance. All of this led to his kingdom falling and succumbing to the Worgen curse and the Forsaken.
But now we've seen him become better. In Wolfheart, when Varian was overcome with his anger and mocked Greymane, mercilessly insulting him and throwing the blame of Gilneas' fall squarely on his shoulders, he did not bite back. He accepted it, and even accepted Varian's initial ruling that the Gilneans would not be accepted back into the Alliance. He accepted the blame. In Before the Storm we saw him overcome his blind hatred of all Forsaken and focus it instead squarely on Sylvanas, recognizing that they were their own people and had made their own mistakes. In Legion, we saw him act strategically and destroy an item of great value to Sylvanas to disrupt her plans rather than trying to outright kill her, clearly keeping his anger in check. And in Battle for Azeroth, when the Night Elves needed help the Alliance couldn't provide, we saw Genn stand by their side and pledge Gilneas to their effort, even stating that they would gladly focus on helping the Night Elves rather than retaking their own kingdom. And he also assisted greatly with unifying Kul Tiras, even calling back to his own mistakes by saying that he would teach them the lesson he had to learn the hard way so many years ago.
We've seen him change so much over the years and become a new father figure for Anduin in the wake of Varian's death. And I just think it's so great to see this consistent arc play out when other characters have been...inconsistent at best.
Cool and all but all i have to say is
Demasiado texto
He's a liar, a tyrant, a coward and a hypocrite.
Now that Vol'Jin's dead, Genn Greymane is the biggest jobber on Azeroth.
@@bigmeknurgle That's what make him cool
And yet he continues to be an idiot that gets people killed in massive quantities.
He really is the only character in game with the most character development. Be it bonding with Varian or the bond between Genn and Anduin.
Anduin struggles with losing his father, Genn struggles with losing his son.
The cutscene outside of tomb where Anduin comes to terms with loss...the cinematography of Genn standing there and then seeing a vision of Varian and the music swells...it was genuinely beautiful.
Don't see that much in this game. At least not since legion
Part of me was really thinking at the end something was gonna happen like "And now the Worgen live peacefully with the night elfs.....right?" and then show Teldrasil burning xD.
Right?!
It drives me nuts that people don't talk enough about how Teldrassil burning was caused by Greymane's psychotic personal vendetta.
@@RavenGlenn what?? I thought it was blizzards psychopathic writing of Sylavnus and her charector that burned the tree. There is no sense in blaming greymane for that. U can definately blame him for a lot more but not that. Sylvanus did it for the jailer whatever grey did r didn't, did not matter.
"Hello, how are you? I'm under the water. Please help me"
Afterward Genn was so hung up on his son, he completely neglected his daughter so she became an assassin and tried to become a Worgen to get his attention.
completely forgot he has a daughter too, did she play any role in the starting experience of Worgen?
@@yumingshen2971 nah
Daughters aren't as important as sons. Patriarchy!
@@Asheth Sexist
@@thenerdbeast7375 you got me.
Honestly, considering the constant stream of bad luck, I respect the Worgen for surviving this long.
Too bad they still carry the furry stigmata
@@BeyondDaX Yeah, the main reason I am hesitant to play my Worgen characters. Damn furries >:(
You have the Tauren.
@@datkhornedog899 Oddly enough, the playerbase doesn't consider them as such
@@BeyondDaX Yes, this is strange. You also have the Druids, sepcifically the shapeshifting ones.
The incompetency doesn't end there either. He messed up multiple times in Legion, and stood their like a baffoon when Anduin was kidnapped right in front of him.
Oh don’t be that harsh. He screamed at Sylvanas MENACINGLY too while his king was being kidnapped.
He also attacked Sylvanas' fleet in an attempt to kill her(the current leader of The Horde) during a wartime pact between The Alliance and The Horde. She turned around and burned down Teldrassil in response.
Angry old man yells at cloud.
Before that: Smashes a lantern and considers it fitting revenge for his entire kingdom and his heir.
Blizz really do Genn dirty lol. But of all characters in the entire franchise Genn has had the most character development and is actually pretty damn cool in legion/BFA--especially the cinematics.
I still pray we some day see Gilneas rebuilt and turned into a social hub. It's got some of the most enjoyable atmosphere and aesthetics in the entire game. It's a shame to see it destroyed and untouched for over 10 years
Well thanks to recent lore developments the undead decided since they have a new captial there discussing pulling out of gilneas to improve relations with the alliance and repay them for there assistance. So yeah we may achualy see it make a return. After the dragon isles thing of course.
Best place to RP ever.
No ERP involved, but a pure RP where there is a player acting like a proper priest. Crime scenes, detective, guards, nobles etc and no slut house like Goldshire.
Even MORE recent lore developments, narrative dev confirmed we'll be seeing a return to Gilneas in-game, not just in a book or a short story.
It has come up in shadowlands and in dragonflight, so it's sure to be soon. Probably in a small patch like with the small quest chain for eredar or the new warlock pets. They've been adding little living world bits here n there.
Some LAST lore developments, we’ve reclaimed Gilneas and it’s now a social hub 👍
"we will return my son..."
And they never did! *Curb your enthusiasm starts playing*
16:27 = You gotta admit, Lliam Greymane had one MF awesome speech. This is why the Worgen are one of my favorite race :)
They are my favorite, because they kept fighting to the end, and then some. They faced adversity and failure over and over again, but for the longest time they didnt give up.
Eventually they could either die and hoon the ranks of the Scourge, or retreat and regroup and love to fight another day.
I bet they would habe had a bettee chanc eif their king didnt seperste from the alliance.
The speech is inspired by Churchill's WW2 speech
Man, Liam just casually shaving his beard off and undoing his ponytail during the Battle for Gilneas.
After the fall of Gilneas it’s just a series of unfortunate events
@Dominatrix in Distress yogg saron freed was urgent check the ulduar trailer brann warn us about the menace of ulduar
@Dominatrix in Distress i feel yogg saron was wreaking some havoc but can't do much in northrend because too many undeads he can't control, the trolls where empowering themselves with the loas, and the magic dragons where too "wise" to be controlled by yogg so its pretty much limited to control the keepers and they have 2 dungeons and the ulduar raid so its seen fine to me
This vid brought back some unexpected nostalgia feelings.
I still remember when my mom took me to the store and bought me cataclysm and the moment i started a Worgen and quested through Gilneas.
Such an amazing feeling honestly, i feel like Revendreth tried to be Gilneas-ish but it doesn't have nearly the same charm as Gilneas did when it released and we got to experience it.
God i wish i revert time just to experience it like new again!
16:26 That war speech is fucking POWERFULLY delivered and beautifully shot, by far the best part of the video.
You forgot to mention the 20 minute wait for the gryphon section of the battle. But still, this made me want to make yet ANOTHER worgen just to do the quest line... that music... it still gives me chills
RIP the Gilnean's second home got burned down with the night elves, I just realized.
"Gilneas will prevail...."
2:19
"Oi, you! You got a LOICENCE for being outside?"
*gets pwned by a worgen*
Liams Speech is lowkey one of the best things i heared in wow period. If someone gave that Speech IRL i would run in Head first with no Hessitation whatsoever
8:42 i almost died from laughing on this, great job.
It's amazing that this entire story is just the worgen starting zone, this is truly the best starting zone in the game.
Liam's speech at the Battle for Gilneas gave me chills.
RIP Liam Greymane, prince of Gilneas.
Sylvanas: "We will meet a-Genn"
Me: lol
This is definitely for Asmon; especially the sponsor
Who tf is that?
@@notTheUsualG never heard of her
Is a guy
Her: "You didn't even cry while watching titanic" Him: 18:35
If this outro music were played at the end of a movie in a cinema, I'd stay at my chair till I fall asleep. I really enjoyed those two parts. It was better than watching Netflix. Honestly.
For Gilneas!
Dude, I got so worried about your radio silence. I started to wonder what happened to one of my favorite wow machinima makers. I have to admit that I have not played wow for years and the game itself does not interest me anymore, but I always enjoy watching your productions! Keep it up!
Follow him on twitter he posts production screenshots and dank memes
The Worgen flashback about the garbage human jokes was golden
18:17 HE SAID THE THING, HE SAID THE THING!
Azeroth, a world, where plate armor can be enchanted, to be light enough, that you can swim in it... where the blood of an old god is used as an material to build a fortress, armor and weapons... but just wearing clothes, that are 1-2 sizes bigger than your usual size, so it fits, once you transform (and maybe use a durable material) is just too much to imagine :) .. funny video as usual
Let's not forget the true gem in Genn's hat, attacking the Horde fleet at Stormheim during the middle of a demonic invasion.
Don't forget what the horde was doing in Stormheim. Genn kinda saved the day there.
@@Krosis29 By attacking the entire Horde fleet with one airship, resulting in hundreds of lost lives from both sides which probably resulted in the Legion getting a foothold in Stormheim...But sure.
While playing Legion that always annoyed the hell out of me. "Oh Genn learned, oh Genn this, oh Genn that" but then he attacks the people they are supposed to work with because they "abandoned" them during the first attack, where Varian died, without asking "Why?" even once. I like Worgen, I despise Genn.
@@smugron1101 I despise all Alliance races during Legion because they all cry "ThE hOrDe BeTrAyEd Us!" without even knowing why the Horde left the Broken Shore but the Alliance are supposed to be the good guys
When Greymane goes to the fridge at night to get a slice of leftover pizza and the box is empty, he yells “Sylvanas!”
"How does a Tauren hide in a cherry tree? He paints his hooves red!" - Literally, would have saved me. Dad jokes are 10/10, the purest form of humor.
The worgen starting zone is one of the examples of blizzard story question done right, to this day i still just run through that quest chain just to do the story and then delete the character around lvl 13
"We did it father... we took back our city!.. we... took... back..."
"My lord, horde reinforcements are coming quickly, we need to retreat!"
I'm not crying, you're crying!
20:07 I feel like the start of that boat ride was like:
"hey can you change into human form your kinda taking up a lot of space"
"do you... have any spare pants?"
I just came across a thought... if the abandoned part of the kingdome paid the taxes before the wall's construction... technically Genn built a wall and made them pay for it
When Greymane shouts "SYLVANAS!!!"
It reminds me a lot of Guts screaming "GRIFFITH!!!"
So, we gonna get a part three about how Genn incidentally attacked Sylvanas and the horde during the Legion's invasion and would've been the technical spark and justification of the Fourth War in his bloodlust?
.... Sylvanas did nothing wrong?
@@Morec0 Nah, she did plenty wrong. Just saying, she didn't throw the first punch to spark the fourth war and pointing out further Genn incompetence.
Except Sylvanas was attacking our allies in Odin forces
Platinum Wow is the best WoW channel atm with a good balance of information and humor.
It really sucks there wasnt a battle for Gilneas in BFA. I would of prefered that 100% over the old gods
Well, Azeroth has been rid of all old gods, right? I bet next expansion will expand on them not being around having positive effects. Maybe they'll even do something about that giant fucking sword sticking out of Azeroth.
@@NostraDavid2 ye, are u sure we got rid 9f the Old Gods?
@@dreamermagister8561 Old Gods can't be destroyed (because they're void based), but we removed them from Azeroth at least (AFAIK - I'm still catching up on lore)
I appreciate your sense for the pathos. The comedy is good, but acting out the emotions these characters are going through and conveying how important this history is for these fictional characters is why your Forest Troll video and this series are some of my favorites. You put real work in, and it shows, and it's worth it.
Man that sponsor was such a dis without mentioning our malding savior.
The one that's coming back next week?
Keep doing this kind of content man so many don't know the lore of wow bcuz they don't read quests and this really helps bring it under the light....love your content
And so: the quest to Build Furtopia begins
I could be wrong but didn't the cataclysm hit first then the frosaken invaded.
They previously hadn't been able to because gilneas and reefs that blocked the ships but the cata removed them.
These videos are soooo good! I'm not normally interested in these types of videos, but you do such a great job at story-telling while adding your own spin and humor on things! Such a great mix. Keep up the amazing work!
Liams Speech, the music, the battle.... Just Perfect!
Wonderful video!
And the music makes me so nostalgic.
Makes me wanna replay the Worgen starting zone with a new character.
Fun fact: Varian Wrynn, though obviously not a Worgen, was guided through the rituals of taming the beast and afterwards unlocked the connection he had to Goldrinn (that the orcs saw when they first saw him fight as Lo'Gosh) and for a time had access to Goldrinn's strength, speed, and ferocity without having to change into a Worgen form.
It wasn't permanent but he did retain some of that (kinda like how in DBZ Battle of the Gods Goku's body got used to Super Saiyan God form and he could still keep up with Beerus even when his time ran out.)
16:30 Top tier speech
Absolutely compelling dialogue, bravo.
if cata was released in 2021, people would be complaining that they were trying to redeem genn greymane
Nah, you're salty about something, what is it?
Genn Greymane was and is on a patg to redemption ever since. They didnt really develop his character that frequently but over the years he started to be more down to earth, reasonable man than how he was back during the second war and onwards. He still is a bit of a self rigtheous bastard sometimes but he s growing more and more. He is a bit too furious but that is more because of the curse than anything else. Be certainly doesnt understand the value of peace as much as Anduin does or Varian did right before his death.
@@dreamermagister8561 I think Genn is a good character despite all the utter vitriol against him. I hope to see more of his character in the future
You did a great job covering the story of the gilneans and the worgen curse. I played that start zone once to see the lore and quests, but seeing the story layed out in a cohesive video like this is much better. Thank you!
Also i have to mention that the Ashenvale theme which plays at the end is one of the best songs in WOW.
as a big troll and worgen fan, i feel personally targetted by platinumWoW
As a worgen fan...i dont. It isnt my fault our king was...less than effective.
really good model rigging in this one, most people dont even know how much fucking work that is
great job
This sponsor was directed to asmon and I know it lmfao
I loved this too much man... this makes me wish there was a WOW cinematic universe where we can watch every epic WOW story unfold just the way you show it in your vids.. Too amazing for words.
the mald lord will have a nice surprise when he returns with this sponsor
That can't be the end!
You haven't yet covered how this GENIUS declares the 4th war on the horde FOR NO REASON, in the middle of a freaking LEGION INVASION!
This dofus not only almost got the entire world wiped out, but the war HE STARTED, got Teldrassil burned, most of the world devastated, AND gave the jailer All the souls he could wish for.
And then stood around going "durrrr" while anduin got kidnapped.
Truly a great king
kudos to you for almost making me tear up for some characters from a game i've never played.
Best starter zone and beast race ever.
I am a taciturn man when it comes to RUclips comments; however, I cannot help but type at this moment. Your videos are the most entertaining I have seen on the topic of WoW lore; if I were not a pauper, I would fully support you on Patreon. Keep up the good work!
Bah... No matter how introverted or socially phobic you are, you *_can_* and *_do_* get used to writing comments once you try doing it every now and then (RUclips specifically in this case). Don't be shy, maybe you'll find it worthwhile. Unless you just, don't have the energy for it that is. My 2 cents.
I'll be honest, it is way too funny to hear the first line of the sponsorship spot 'Are you balding?' and then immediately skip to chapter one with the worgen attacking. Cure balding now with our patented werewolf curse!
As the great lord Doge would say. The incompetence of his incompetence is so incompetent. Such wow....
"Hello, How are you? I am under de water. Plz help me" gotta love it. lol
How would Gilneas as a Forsaken capital look like? I'd like to see it
Just look at any other forsaken city. Only with more buildings and such.
@@BeyondDaX I meant how it would look like in the story not appearance, we all know it would look cool af
That would be a cool what if scenario.
That would be so badass actually. Just imagine that big Clocktower in the middle but with a dark Vampire-ish look to it and the city. I hope they do that at some point since gilneas right now isn't really used for anything.
I personally find it hard to believe that gilneas wasn't already conquered. The place got beaten and bruised, larger cities fell for lesser thrats than Guildeas, but i guess Blizzard forgot them just like they forgot the Worgen in general
This is so accurate in terms of what the forsaken is willing to throw at you vs. you never see anything of these when you're a forsaken yourself, just two ghouls and 2 abominations roaming the city.
But when you're an enemy to them even for a horde player? MAN, you'll see mecha giant undead Elvis Presley hitting you with a legendary banjo.
Well done as always, Platinum WoW! Despite this being a well mockery at times of what Genn has done you did also a really fantastic job of showing just some epic moments with the character and the lore. Excited to see this carry forward in the future!
If Blizz decideds to redeem Sylvanas I can just picture it.
Genn: SYLVANAS!
Sylvanas: What?
Genn: Sorry force of habit. TYRANDE!
I have such a soft spot in my heart for this crusty starting zone. Liam's speech always gets me too. Seeing it all again lowkey makes me miss the game. Shame that starting zone itself is starting to fall apart mechanically.
The history of Gilneas is actually pretty cool
I just don't understand why the whole region is empty ingame
Easier to erase all entitites and files, but leave a zone i guess?
I suppose deleting an entire data space/region may cause issues.
The only place in the world where I give a hoot about the lore is this one here, Platinum. Thank you so much for making this kind of evenings Into an aged well wine 🍷
One of my favorite elements of Cataclysm leveling is the fact that the story of Silverpine Forest takes place during the forsaken assault in the worgen starting zone. I love seeing that kind of parity in story telling
That ad seems made for Asmon lol
The mald king will be mad
15:34 not even gonna lie, i never even noticed he jumped off the cliff, so seeing the scene played straight like this makes it even funnier.
Ok Liam you gave a badass speech
Was that a Churchill speech?
11:00 - Wow. The leaders of Azeroth REALLY hate taking any sort of real responsibility for their actions or their people’s actions.
Malfurion: “Shove ‘em in the Emerald Dream. Not my problem, anymore!”
I know there’s a certain someone who would want that sponsor.
Asmonbald
Gilneas: „Finally, we have the curse somewhat under control. Soon we will be at peace again.“
Horde: „Allow us to introduce ourselves.“
Have you seen the gilneas rp kings?
Greymane is a god compared to them
That Churchill speach was perfection
"Gilneans have suffered greatly"
Which Alliance race hasn't,
especially which one hasn't thanks to horde lol
I forgot how good that speech was!
Remember when Sylvanas was forced by Garrosh to attack Gilneas but then it was retconned to make Sylvanas look more evil? Cringe.
not really, she needed more corpses to sustain her faction as they can obviously not reproduce. it was a good opportunity for sylvanas. if you played wc3 you would know she wasn't shy to use deceive and betrayals for her own benefit
@@alihorda ofc she is not, but attacking gilneas was not part of her initial plans. Garrosh wanted a port at EK, and used Forsaken as fodder before he himself led an attack but ofc he never did because another potential port appeared due to Cataclysm and he sent his fleet there.
Eventually she had a plan to get a hold of it I am sure. But already depleted Forsaken military was streched thin by Garrosh's orders, and back in the old lore of the reasons she was using the blight extensively was to decrease potential casuallties to her army. Considering the Blight (Forsaken) affects both dead and alive it wasnt the most efficient way to capture a city or conquer a land. As evil as Sylvanas was, she was not a fool.
All of this was retconned during Legion or pre Legion, in one of the books and this one particularly looked unnecessary to me. The acts of Sylvanas was the reason Forsaken were so loyal to her. Her defiance against Garrosh in order to save Forsaken lives would generate even more loyalty than anything else. Sylvanas never cared as much as Forsaken beleived she did, or rather not the way they thought. She only wanted an empire, an empire to surround herself to escape death as much as possible. But again, all this lore was retconned.
Last time i was this early Gilneas still had a living prince
Last time I was this early, the Gilnean logo existed on tents and didn't look like some 360NoScopexXxsmoke42069LMAO logo
Whenever asmon reacts to this...
Well, come on, we all know why plat did the sponsor he did.
Dude your fight sequences are getting so dope.