All the lore you NEED to know for Shadowlands (+BFA Recap)
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- World of Wacraft lore has gotten VERY complex in the past couple of expansions. There is tons of hidden lore, mysterious motives and confusing conclusions that are more important than ever in WoW’s newest expansion, Shadowlands. Let’s find out what we NEED to know!
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I lost it at Bolvar rage talking on mic lol
That was mental m8
Wasnt that grossgore xd
Bro same
I haven't laughed that hard in forever.
i wonder where is the audio rage from
I imagine Blizzard watching this taking notes so they have a clue what actually is going and can can finish Shadowlands' lore lol
After watching some of the older Blizzcon Q&A's I don't doubt it.
considering they are already re writing lore that was just established in the previous expansion
@@roflcopter5231 what did they retcon in legion? The tidestone? I'd imagine Azshara wrestled it meanwhile as we were fighting in bfa from the wardens and the kirin tor.
honestly most of this is conjecture at this point. as far as we know her contact with the jailor could have happened much later. im thinking when the soul cage broke. i mean. around that time just before it ysera became the last soul not to go to the maw and the cage breaking was the only possible soul related thing that happened after her death. thus he suddenly got a power boost and probably got the ability to influence the living world then.
also i don't think they are setting her up as a villain. because i know blizzard too well. guessing that the jailor took control of her (after all, she was controlled by the lich king in wc3 before he weakened and his power came from the jailor) and saving her may be some sort of key to beating him. because they did the same story with kerrigan and blizzard hasn't had a original plot in a long time
@Kazumok i switched to Tauri WoW years ago, best decision in my life honestly
PlatWoW: "This is literally my least favorite event that's ever happened in Warcraft history."
The Jailer: "Your least favorite event *so far."*
"Voljin was killed by a random felguard." That burn lol...
Truly a fitting death for the "losers" of azeroth
When Steve Danuser wanted his made up virtual gf in the leading position so bad he basically speedran Vol'jin's death and just made him die to a random felguard instead of a proper meaningful story, meanwhile Sylvanas gets to literally do the most abhorrent sh1t in Warcraft lore, surpassing even Arthas in that regard, and Danuser is like "oh but she's my perfect girl, I can't let them kill her!" and wrote it off as a half-@ssed attempt at a redemption arc.
Don't worry, she'll be back in an expansion or so and lead us all against the void lords as the universally elected ruler of Azeroth and will singlehandedly defeat every enemy while reviving Nathanos so Danuser can keep touching himself when writing their forced romance story.
Welp. It got delayed.
They still writing story for how theyre gonna make slyvanas the True hero at the end of expac probably lol
To the same date as FF14's final patch release...
its not about polishment is still the DOJO talk
This vids premiere chat is where I first found out lol
Good. Gives me time before pre patch, hopefully, to go back in and finish some things.
Serdar Köse Would honestly not be surprised she has ridiculous fanboys and Blizz doesn’t wanna anger them
platinum honestly bro your editing is incredible and your grasp of pacing blows me away
this was perfect in every single way, it was funny, it was informative, it was charming
please never stop making videos ever
I agree. Anytime I see a new video from him my day is so much better.
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Agreed 👍
"N'zoth is the old god of infinite truths, and can forsee all possible futures." That just makes his death even less believable.
My imagination also allows me to see all of my possible futures lol
But as he is an old god - is he really dead? Like can those guys be killed?
@@Ex4_ Well originally no.... But they retconed that. Now when you kill an old God he dies for good. Which means we just killed the last old God. They're gone for good
@@zaer-ezart I always thought that C'thun and Yogg Saron were beaten so hard they descended into some kind of coma and in Saron's case, he was imprisoned again.
@@espio87 Well originally yeah that was the case... But they retconed it.... They're dead now
Not gonna lie, the part where Nathanos tried to kill Bwonsamedi, only to fall off a cliff and Bwonsamedi laughing his ass off was magnificent.
I know...
Hey you, yeah you undead Nathanos. I need you to kill a literal god of death for me......
How did Natahnos think he would accomplish this considering Samedi is strong enough to prevent troll souls from entering the Shadowlands despite all of the Jailers attempts to syphon all the souls.
Don't you mean Bobby Salami? XDD
@@Pineapplelesspineapplepizza I am really glad Trolls have some advantage over the other races, like a death god that cares for them.
@Christina Azarian The guy laughs so much it's part of his job at this point lol
A thumbnail of Dr.Evil as the Jailer is something I never knew I needed to see, my life is now complete.
Spoilers~ I hope the dread lords are clones of him and we have to navigate their broken Father / Son relationship and use the power of group therapy to save Azeroth.
@@z3r0slugfm Now I can hear the Jailer saying Dreadlord's are "The Diet Coke of evil, just one calorie, not evil enough."
Imagine the Jailer getting mad at the Dreadlords for not adding sharks with freaking lasers attached to their heads as one of the boss encounters in Torghast.
@@savagex378 Jailer: You know, I have one simple request: and that is to have sharks with FRICKING LASER BEAMS attached to their heads, now evidently my demonic colleague informs me that can't be done, can you remind me what I pay you people for? Honestly throw me a bone here. What do we have?
"ill stop this lazer for... 1 billion souls... ha ha ha ha"
To summarize:
Local ELF woman ruins EVERYTHING.
Alternative Title:
ELVES BREAK WORLD AGAIN
FURTHER PROVING that Garithos was right all along.
But she thicc
@@IBrowneeI holy shit. I remember that UNIMPORTANT human general from wc3, lmao. But back then, Sylvannas true goal was only to kill Arthas, so she was irrelevant back then and garithos was think too far
@@youzonk7692 Had Garithos gone through with what he wanted to do, as bad as it sounded, a fairly solid 65-70% of WoW as we know it wouldn't have happened. Maybe it would have in some other form, who knows, but you can trace _a lot_ of it back to Kael'thas being a fuckup and saying yes to Naga aid, despite Garithos telling him not to.
Take that out of the equation and Garithos is just leading what little human forces of Lordaeron there was left, and while he didn't like the idea, he did side with Sylvanas against Balnazzar because it was in the best interest of pretty much all parties, and only asked that she take her Undead and leave. She agreed. Then she proceeded to backstab him afterwards just because.
Two main Elves that he pointed out to be bad, proven to be exactly that (or just stupid in Kael's case).
Around Elves, watch yourselves.
I will NEVER get tired of Sylvanas's powerslide into frostmorne memes.
The Nathanos vs Malfurion/Tyrande fight in Darkshore is legit one of the worst moment is WoW history. Nathas had plot armor thicker than my gut, and that's saying something.
Pretty much everything Malf/Tyr did in Legion was equally dumb. For 10k year old wise experienced political and military leaders, they somehow have a maturity that would embarrass a toddler.
@@julianb4157 To be fair, at lot of characters have acted dumb since Legion. This comic pretty well sums up all the horde since Sylvanas became warchief: www.nerfnow.com/comic/2527#:~:text=Nerf%20NOW!!,%E2%80%94%20For%20The%20Horde!&text=Four%20kids%20run%20afoul%20of,of%20sci%2Dfi%20body%20horror.
@@scubasteve7286 Agree. Watching Garrosh v2.0 has been irritating. All the depth that _could_ be in that faction has been replaced with a one-dimensional villain.
And I'm really hoping they don't pull some inane 'redemption arc' on her, even if only because that will "excuse" all the crap writing she's had.
@@julianb4157 I think everyone will quit if someone who wilingly set fire to thousands of innocents gets redeemed.
Remember back in Vanilla when Nathanos could be killed easily by 10 lvl 60s in greens?
I love how much you know the lore, to the point you understand why some events are bad xD
Nerd
You have to understand that Draenei souls, which had long, magical lives and have been stored in Auchindon for thousands of years, probably have a lot more anima than the average soul and thus _a lot_ more fattening.
I am sorry but they have not liked Platinium's video enough so ... No
Being stored in Auchindon after death probably wouldn't increase their anima, just maintain it at the same level as they rest. Which means he didn't just gorge on massive amounts of anima, but massive amounts of *dry aged* anima. That shit's expensive, I'd probably steal as many freebies as I could too.
The Jailer, on the other hand, paces himself. Sharing OP plot powers with Sylvanas, breaking the barrier between two dimensions and somehow just shutting off the judge of all souls. Plenty of workout between eating sessions and a varied diet means he probably has sick gainz.
Your profile pic is appealing to my inner child
@@liger04 I meant thousands of years worth of souls, not that the souls have aged and acquired more anima.
@@thenerdbeast7375 even then the number of draenei were actually quite low compared to the billions that continue xause u have to realise most nuetrals u have killed will wind up at the maw including good old draenei soul eating guy so yeah.thing is he was not supposed to eat souls the jailer is.
BFA had like 5 different potential expansion-worthy storylines..
Basically, the big set-up expansion.
Yeah well Naga bitch was rumored to get her own whole expac for years until this stuff happened. The emerald dream was also on that list but prolly ain't happening anymore lol
it is quite hilarious to me that the effing giant sword is still there two expansions later, and nobody has done anything about it.
@@Keira_Blackstone sword still chilling there with the time-lapse.
WoW Lore: To defeat the greatest threat Azeroth has ever known, the Horde and the Alliance will have to join forces to...never mind, they're killing each other again.
Lets be honest, nobody planned for the Lore to get like this.
I mean, no story is planned before it's written down and released. I'm sure they had some overall points to follow and rest is winged as stories are written.
Alexander regardless if all the story bits were all in game it would still be a mess...
This should have been a WoW 2 storyline right after whatever the fuck events of Warcraft 4 took place. At least then it would have been acceptable...because we are basing off what happened in Warcraft 4, like how we based everything WoW related off of Warcraft 2 and 3...
In warcraft three it was kil'jaeden who forced ner'zhul into the helm of domination, and threw him from twisting nether aka space to northrend after he tried to flee Draenor's destruction via the portals. All this shit just seems shoehorned in. The Jailer? LK's helm is holding dimensions together? It seems dumb as fuck IMO.
Your name may be platinum, but on the inside you’re golden
isnt platinum worths more than gold?
Platinum is stronger and worth more than gold lol
One of the best wow youtubers
the person who wrote this comment is a sped
So Californium then :D
I just love that the Jailer is depicted as Mike Myers each time.
Sylvanas was one of the cooler characters. It's disappointing to see her being made into another Garrosh, only more confusing.
she was a garrosh from the beginning on, vengence for saurfang . TBF im not a sylannes simp
M. p. De jong yea, wanting to take over the world...that was her mission ALL along huh?
Yeh she's another Garrosh but with more steps because Blizzard ran out of writing juice
Is she? Her goal on Azeroth wasn't ruling the land, but trying to get everybody killed.
She will never be as great as Garrosh
"stupid sexy Wrathion"
he is right and he should say it
Best
anyone else hear that in Homer simpson voice? XD
He IS rather SCHMEXY
I'd pay for his only fans
Xal'atath was also the shadow priest relic weapon in Legion, it just boggles my mind how many of these extremely powerful artifacts seem to just "get lost," only to be brought back with no really good explanation as to why they were lost in the first place. You'd think somebody woulda gone "You know, even though we supposedly used this dagger to absorb magic from that big sword, we should probably lock it in a box."
@Wonder of U so the story acknowledges the player as an idiot? Fantastic
Xal‘atath was never lost though. Sylvanas gave it to Azshara as part of the deal they struck and Azshara gave it to Uu‘nat in return. After retrieving it and using it to open Nazjatar, Nathanos returns it to Azshara.
I didnt play legion but checked the story behind that Relic, yeah it is really ridiculous how they wrote the story of that thing. I mean I've read that many times now - the artifact weapons from legions are powerful, really really powerful ancient relics and they just kinda "get lost" and that's it - wtf?
@@SneggeS the point stands that the player character is stupid for ever letting something so dangerous out of their sight.
@@SneggeS It was lost before that. We used it in Legion, and then seemingly just tossed all those world-powerful weapons aside afterwards. Like the Tidestone, artifacts should have gone into a serious museum vault (see raiders of the lost ark?) rather than just being left around for others to find. Sylvanas should never have had that dagger, just like Azshara should never have had the Tidestone.
"then she flys away like a cartoon villain" - I almost choked on my coffee
"She did a kick ass powerslide in front of arthus and he turned her into a banshee" LALW~ omgt
*Im the middle of the N'zoth fight*
Okay... don't panic... just remember what Magni said...
*flashback Magni: if you ever get in trouble all you need to do is...
Flashback Wrathion: Look at my new model. Isn't it amazing... (Flexes and winks at us.) Isn't it amazing... ISN'T IT AMAZING*
Oooh, stupid sexy Wrathion!
*loses all sanity*
I absolutely adore the editing in your videos, had me cackling like a mad man
Me too, I was dying
To think this all started with "orcs coming from a portal. They're ruining everything"
This was absolutely hilarious to watch, super easy to understand and I now feel lore-wise AND happy at the same time 😂 Thanks so much dude!!
Actually, in cataclysm Lord Godfrey shot Sylvanas in the head and a valkyrie sacrificed herself to ressurect her
Oh yeah that happened. How come nobody talks about that?
@@numnaut1314 Probably because not everyone saw it. Godfrey was such a potential character too, he had his own vendetta with both the Gilneans and the Forsaken. I hope they bring him back in shadowlands
@@gonefishing9781 He had pistols before it was cool. I'm glad that I'm not the only who liked him.
Are valkyries like her horcruxes or something? One sacrifices herself to resurrect her, one takes her place in the Maw. As long as there's any valkyries she just can't die.
@@Evija3000 You can basically take it as a Voldemort rip-off/reference even her flying off like a death eater when she kills Saurfang.
Can we get the sauce on the Sylvanas+Valkyr depiction? For science of course.
google Sylvanus valkyr art, its one of the top ones, warcraft-art-unlimited.tumblr.com/post/179212432407/sylvanas-windrunner-awakening-artist
Ah, I see you are a men of culture as well! :)
The artist should be Dmitry Prozorov,he makes some cool stuff
- Are you seriously watching Sylvanas art's by yourself?
- No! Im with the science team!
- *YEEEEEEAAAAH*
ruclips.net/video/DH-I8XLvajE/видео.html
I feel like there's more that you shouldn't know than what you should to understand modern World of Warcraft lore; the writing is constantly eating itself that knowing a lot of the older lore will leave you confused that the newer lore just doesn't work with it.
For example: Kil'Jaeden bound Ner'zhul's soul to the armor of the Lich King and imprisoned him in the Icecrown Glacier while the Nathrezim forged Frostmourne and left it in Northrend for Arthas to eventually find, however now the Helm of Domination and Frostmourne was forged by the Primus under the Jailer's subjugation...
Sylvanas... stuck in traffic... lol thank you for that hilarious imagery, I'm never going to forget it.
That smug Azshara art brought me here!
Cudos to the artist
Princess Baine, ends kidnapped even when he was a kid in warcraft by the centaurs.
If this big ass beefy cow doesn't do something badass I swear to god.
and you can add useless Thrall to the list. it is has been a long time since he did something useful. can't blame though. last time he did something useful like shooting down Deathwing, everyone and their grandmothers shouted green Jesus. meanwhile, Khadgar carrying us two expansion and no one bat an eye.
Yeah...so about that...
Khadgar was annoing because of the world quests.
While Thrall was so repetitive that Blizz had to stop overusing him.
@@AliAlslaman Humie Privilege
Ali Alslaman thrall is repetitive and lacks any personality in Cata, everything, absolutely everything revolves around him. While Khadgar has a fun personality and absolutely not everything revolves around him. In Wod some other characters are able to shine as well, like Yrel (although that ended up horribly) and Maraad. In Legion, although Khadgar has a huge presence in the beginning, other characters like Illidan, Turalyon, Maiev and Velen took the spot light.
"Look out, it's all of the Old Gods; See-thun, Why-saarj, and Enn-zoth!"
Yeah why can't people get this right. The names for the old gods are derived from Lovecraft stories. Cthulhu is not 'Cee-Thulhu' so why would one say 'Cee-Thun' ?
And Plat did get the pronunciation of N’Zoth right at the Crucible of Storms part
@@GbrBy Yes he did, several times. You're right.
Coming back after a few expansions. This was the most useful recap I've seen. There's a lot of dry summaries that go way too deep into the weeds, but this was exactly what I needed to figure out WTF is going on.
I'd sub to Sylvanas' only fans
Guilty as charged.
uhhhhhhhh
Of course you would
Don't even joke about that blizzard might just do it.
@@thezerowulf507 we're not joking...
The part with Bolvar was one of the best thing I've seen in a while.
Editor: so, how many Austin Powers references do you want?
Platinum WoW: yes
This video is perfectly done. I can't tell you how many lore videos I've watched and still felt lost and confused - but not with this one! Now I'm finally going into an expansion with an idea of what the heck is going on. (and the editing was hilarious) Thank you!
I’m on the floor wheezing that you made the jailer to be Dr. Evil and him doing the Macarena was just the best
4:40 I love the way you edited that in
Ah yes, the lifeforce of every being when they die: enema.
Took me a few seconds to process it. The way he says it really sounds like enema. 🤣
@@icecell lol
Perfectly-timed comedic beats. Haven't laughed out loud in a long time. Thanks for putting in the effort.
I love watching the platinum standard of WoW before the copper standard of WoW reacts to it.
Asmon is basically projared except less rapey
Is there a reason why everyone hates Asmongold?
I mean, I don't watch him, but it pisses me off when he appears on my recommended videos and it's always "Asmongold reacts to _______".
BRO! Do you have ANY *original* content?
Is there any other reason why people dislike him, or did I just sum it up?
@@luccafortestoledo1300 Asmon used to be quite good at the game and ppl just watch cause he acts foolish really but I dont watch ppl personally who do reaction videos to others content 24/7 while their literally being carried by their fans and not even playing the game no more...
@@luccafortestoledo1300 HE'S got way too big, all he does nowadays is watch other creators content and get carried at everything in the game
@@luccafortestoledo1300 because he is hot no skill trash. he's an entitled prick that only has anything because he duped people into giving it to him.
If Sylvanas was a streamer Nathanos would be like his level 5 simp that gives superchats of about 1000 USD's.
Simps don't smash though, and Nathanos definitely clapped Sylvanas' buttcheeks
@@jizzrag5411 pretty sure he didn't
He got that booty call when’ he lived in lordaeron, without a doubt, He wasn’t made the only human ranger lord in history just because he was good with a bow..... he was alllll up in those guts.
Nate would definitely be a smelly mod
"He need some milk!!" Literally made this whole video haha
"But we outleveled that 115 levels ago!!!"
I haven't played for a year and am resubbing for Shadowlands, so this is exactly what I needed! Thanks!
I love the very ending with fat basty singing baby back ribs XD
14:40 Oh, so *that* is the other side. I always wondered what that witch doctor down at New Orleans was singing about.
I've never watched a lore video this entertaining and funny in my life
People who listen to Platinum WoW's videos want to be a tier 3 subbed henchman.
(This includes me because I cant get enough of your lore videos. Your the best!)
The Sylavanas vs Bolvar scene with your editing made me so laugh, really great video man! keep going
Fricken A+ content. I don't even play WOW. I find joy in just learning about the lore, and how platinum does it. 💪🏽
No lore videos have kept my attention except for this one. So good, so funny! Thank you.
I lmao'd so hard at fish moses
edit* Give me someeee milk hahahah man this is honestly so so funny. thank you for making it
He needs some milk*
Nobody:
The Jailor:
*S U C C*
Platinum I just have to say it now you are one of the best wow RUclipsrs on the platform and you deserve way more subscribers than you already have thank you, I can barely get around bfa.
18:11 "There were children on the boat please"
Holy, a random throwaway line and it has more impact that everything else.
When my brain is not in the mood with the detailed lore of Warcraft and want more simplistic and fun explanation of the lore in Warcraft, you are my go-to-channel. Keep up the goodwork, i love it
That segment of WotLK brings me so much nostalgia.
I swear i look forward to your uploads every two weeks like my paycheck
These recaps have been much needed and appreciated over the last couple of expansions.
This comedic approach to the lore is the best thing ive seen so far, good job, keep it up ma boi
It's insane the work you put on these videos, amazing!
Fun fact: "Shadowlands" spelled backwards is "Sdnalwodahs" which basically means nothing and I just wasted your time
This guy's onto something!
Fun fact: The letters of "World of Warcaft: Shadowlands" can be rearranged to spell "Fart downward, sad wolf scholar" or "Half-daft coward owns warlords."
my god
@@onlylettersand0to9 That latter interpretation explains a lot.
@@onlylettersand0to9 The first one kind of sounds like a Dark Souls madlib.
"and with the help of stupid, sexy Wrathion" Damn dude, that was quick.
I spit my coffee out and laughed when you said "Fish Moses". Geez that was funny.
Your videos always impress me, by both the amazing editing and hilarious comedy. Again, well done!
14:41
Huh, I wonder if Bwonsamdi has any friends there.
The production quality of this is beyond insane
Thank you so much! From someone who LOVED legion, and the ending with the sword, I was disappointed with bfa. Then at the announcement of shadowlands got super hyped and returned to Bfa just in time for Nzoth, and I had no damn clue how they got there in between.
Your video is just what I needed! Super excited for Shadowlands lore!
Great idea! I’ve been playing a ton until like feb of this year. So having a refresher is decent.
"morally grey"
The first 2 minutes of this video is probably one of the funniest things I have EVER heard or seen on RUclips. You are the best at WoW lore! Keep it up!
Love these videos. Getting back into wow after like 6 years and the plot recap is really helpful
"he needs some milk!"
i died just like Saurfang
3:45 ''Critical ASSpects of the lore''
Y E S
The level of creativity and comedy is insane! Good job
If in some way the Jailer doesn't act like Dr. Evil, I will be thoroughly disappointed. If he doesn't yell "get in my belly!" while he consumes my soul life will be pointless.
Missed opportunity when you called out Magni. Was expecting "Champion! Champion... Champion? Champion. CHAMPION!!"
Oh god that Mario scream when Sylvanas jumps from the Frozen throne, I’m crying 😂😂😂
Dude thank you for this video honestly because my ADHD makes it really hard for me to process videos about wow lore but this is done in such a great and engaging way and it makes a lot of sense
15:09 I'm literally f***ing dead inside :'DDD
you killed me with the austin powers
Man I wish I'd find you sooner!
Your videos are just the perfect mix of lore and comedy, which makes it way easier to absorb all the knowledge.
Keep up the great work dude.
Great video.. Thanks for filling in the gaps as I only play a few months after each expansion...
Sylvanas should've been left dead on the spikes of Icecrown Citadel. Maybe the last line about her should be her's description of the maw. Claws, eyes, darkness, etc. This would be nice, epic, sad, oldschool lore. With plenty of space for something new and scary to come, but whats hiding for now. She is so much connected to the Arthas in the lore, that even every one new quest about her, after the *IC jump* , only dilutes the epicness. And the last visions of the the maw would be nice echo to the last line of the Arthas: "I see ... only darkness ..." The Wrath of the Lichking is (one of the) best expansion for some focking reason. The lore, the story and proper ending of one saga! With good story building, the end of Sylvanas (and the saga of Arthas) could've been the start of the brand new and good lore chapter.
But no ... This is not the Way of the Activision Blizzard. Lets milk it as much as possible.
When you do not know, when to end a epic story, and *every epic story must end* , you will end up with shit like this new lore. Half of the BFA is mindlessly rolling in this shit and the whole Shadowlands will be build on/made of it ... -_-
*Get in my belly* part killed me lol but yeah i could totaly see that.
I've been playing wow for about 5 months now, and this is the first I have understood any part of the lore! Thanks!
Sylvanas vs Bolivar voice over is a mastering
Damn if I could sub and like a vid again I would ha. As a new player who’s getting into the game just now in time for shadowlands I appreciate this
After countless tries of Arthas my mage would sit on the edge of the throne and wonder if she should simply jump as Silvana did... lel
But we finall got it
I got in in 1 try:)
Thanks for making such an entertaining video. I really needed to know more about the wow lore that I’ve missed since cataclysm but I hate watching lore videos as I find myself zoning out and missing a load of info. Your video made me laugh a lot though and therefore kept my attention. Please make more like this. ☺️👏 You’ve put so much work in. Hope you get the recognition you deserve.
P.S love the Austin powers references! 😂✌️🌈
Thank you so much for doing this. All of the random silvans videos and BFA story lines now make more sense! :)
Ah yes the Lore for that Expansion that we probably wont see till december
And in my opinion it's for the best.
@@damiansz287 Sure... If you didnt have to fight for a week of vacation that is now wasted
@@Geemo90 Feeling sorry for you mate :(
@@Geemo90 f
November
“HE NEEDS SOME MILK!!”
"But we outleveled that 115 levels ago!!!"
Man the art of Azshara, Heart of Azeroth and Sylvanas are so good, I hope you continue to work with the artist. And nice video as always!
I love this channel, just found it this morning!
12:29
GIT THAT BOY SAWM MILK!!!