How SPAWN Changed Comic Books (Even Though It Sucks)

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
  • An analysis of the history and impact of Todd McFarlane's Spawn, including the early days of the comic, the rise of the Spawn Empire, and how Spawn and Image Comics change the comic book industry forever.
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    0:00 Intro
    2:29 The Story of Spawn
    11:28 The Spawn Empire
    18:07 The Legacy of Spawn
    21:32 Outro
    Music:
    "Vampires" by The Midnight
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  • @grozwald
    @grozwald 2 года назад +521

    I've always found it funny that Neil Gaiman had to sue McFarlane for the rights to his characters when the whole point of Image was CREATOR CONTROLLED CHARACTERS.

    • @kylecarter1599
      @kylecarter1599 11 месяцев назад +79

      Neil sued Todd due to not being paid for use of his characters, Gunslinger Spawn, Medeviel Spawn, and Angela. The results of the lawsuit saw Neil retain the rights the characters he created in Todd's book. There was no question of ownership in the lawsuit.

    • @alanguages
      @alanguages 9 месяцев назад +31

      McFarlane in an interview talked about how much he disliked the idea when Marvel released variant covers and thought there is more to comics, than that. (Money)
      McFarlane years later, with Todd Toys created and released variant versions of the same figures for people to collect and buy. (Money)
      "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
      - Harvey Dent

    • @HeirofAzaran
      @HeirofAzaran 7 месяцев назад +4

      You, and everyone else who hears the story

    • @hobo7007
      @hobo7007 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@alanguagessorry to break it to you. But toys are not comics.

    • @alanguages
      @alanguages 5 месяцев назад

      Effectively you are saying it is okay to make variants with toys, but not comics. Nice try.
      Todd became the thing he disliked, just a variant of one.@@hobo7007

  • @pudlordtynan919
    @pudlordtynan919 2 года назад +609

    Spawn belongs to a special echelon of comic characters, who have all this fantastic and rich potential. Just inherent to their origin and stuff, but... Merely sit on a corpse chair in an alley.

    • @liesureleeminis8268
      @liesureleeminis8268 2 года назад +53

      If you've read spawn there's been an INSANE amount of variety in what's happened in the story.
      Though 75-95 was awful, 95 is a huge uptick in story quality, then it drops from 110ish to 170ish

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  2 года назад +82

      It's a nice corpse chair!

    • @diegohaung2831
      @diegohaung2831 2 года назад +12

      @@MattDraper do a video about hellblazer

    • @MrPoop1000000
      @MrPoop1000000 2 года назад +2

      @@MattDraper i mean its extremely pretty....

    • @meltdownremix1996
      @meltdownremix1996 2 года назад +7

      Being a Creeper fan is pain and suffering indeed 😔

  • @ChicaneryBear
    @ChicaneryBear 2 года назад +127

    It’s hyper violent, but it’s self aware. It knows what it is. It’s like Tarantino. It’s a cosmic gumbo. Me and Todd joked in studio that it is kind of a cosmic gumbo.

  • @gimmeyourrights8292
    @gimmeyourrights8292 2 года назад +101

    I think the big thing about Spawn is the fact that his creator is in love with his creation but he doesn't know how to show it. It's the same kind of love that Stan Lee had with Spider-Man. Both creators adore their creations but that's the problem. I sometimes write characters and I tend to be overly biased because this character that I wrote is one of my favorite characters.

    • @ioannisfugazi6952
      @ioannisfugazi6952 2 года назад +13

      Stan Lee was in love with a Steve Ditko creation.

    • @georgecoconut8164
      @georgecoconut8164 2 года назад +7

      @@ioannisfugazi6952 truth . And Jack kirby thought of the idea first but ditko perfected it

    • @guyverjay1289
      @guyverjay1289 2 года назад +6

      Jack Kirbys "idea" was literally nothing like the character that debuted in amazing fantasy 15, gtfo

    • @georgecoconut8164
      @georgecoconut8164 2 года назад +3

      @@guyverjay1289 jack kirby's had the idea and steve ditko put it into fruition

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 Год назад +8

      @@guyverjay1289 It's vaguely similar: Ditko claims that Kirby's brief 5-page plot established an Aunt May, Uncle Ben (who was supposed to be a gruff cop), web shooting and wall crawling but he gets it from a magic ring. It's a concept so it's not going to be exactly like the final product, but Kirby does seem to have at least laid the foundations for a few key features.

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 2 года назад +520

    The fact that Todd is STILL the guy who writes Spawn after 300 issues is staggering when your read them because damn does his style of writing keep changing ever so much. No wonder why half the fan base lost their damn minds when Al Simmons was replaced by Jim Downing.

    • @Htownblokhedz
      @Htownblokhedz 2 года назад +64

      I have a feeling he does the stan lee style writing. This happens, then he fights this guy, now draw it lol

    • @comixproviderftw_02
      @comixproviderftw_02 2 года назад +16

      @@Htownblokhedz It works for the past 30 years

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 2 года назад +23

      Tbh you gotta give him credit since it’s clearly working

    • @libertyprime6932
      @libertyprime6932 2 года назад +30

      Every fanbase loses their mind when the character they like is replaced. Where have you been?

    • @Zoobi3
      @Zoobi3 2 года назад +6

      Bro I couldn't read all those issues with jim downing

  • @eldiablodelsur
    @eldiablodelsur 2 года назад +406

    Sometimes a character is best portrayed by its creator. On other occasions, a guest contributor can successfully rebuild and retell a story much better than the creator. One example of this is Frank Miller's runs on Batman and Daredevil. It seems that Spawn is in better hands when he's not in the hands of McFarlane. That said, props to McFarlane for creating such an interesting character for others to work with, and props to you, Matt, for another excellent video. Please keep up the great work.

    • @Getwright-
      @Getwright- 2 года назад +15

      Thats true for most image founding father characters except maybe savage dragon. If you want to read excellent to amazing stories of Prophet, Glory, wild cats, or Supreme. Theyre available, but definitely not made be the original creators of those characters.
      Oh! i almost forgot about shadow hawk. His creator did a decent job writing him

    • @abloshow91
      @abloshow91 2 года назад +13

      Yeah Writing wise(alan Moore and neil gaimen have fantastic issues) on art tho McFarlane is an absolute freaken beast. When cappullao took over in those early years I was impressed but its just wasnt McFarlane. Spawn needs McFarlanes art it thrives on those dark shadows, insane linework, incredible almost cartoonish,figures amd gnarly horrific monsters. Just the look of hell is amazing my god

    • @SgtSega
      @SgtSega 2 года назад +3

      Yeah but at the same time nobody can screw with Spawn. Creator control is a double edged sword.

    • @LOLMIKEF
      @LOLMIKEF 2 года назад +4

      I hope something in the same lines happens with miura and berserk manga …

    • @gnarrcan108
      @gnarrcan108 2 года назад +8

      That’s the upside to non creator owned characters. Even though DC & Marvels stranglehold of their characters and just the superhero genre in general has actually been detrimental to the industry not to mention how many artists and writers who were fucked over. On the other hand guys like McFarlane or Dave Sim that can’t let the stuff they own go can ruin the book. Look at how all your favorite heroes have been reinvented or defined by a guy that didn’t originally create them.

  • @jdellabeat6245
    @jdellabeat6245 2 года назад +72

    Spawn is that ONE friend you always think is very cool and charismatic, but you don't want to personally invite for a hangout.

  • @ryanswenka181
    @ryanswenka181 Год назад +32

    It is hilarious to me that people hate the long text and that "nothing happens" for long periods of time, but I love it. He's lost, confused, angry, pulled a dozen directions at once. It's great!

    • @jelloboyplays7942
      @jelloboyplays7942 Месяц назад +1

      Whats funny is this guy liked every other comment that was agreeing with him and didn't like the ones the were disagreeing with him😂

    • @21Handguns
      @21Handguns Месяц назад +1

      ​@@jelloboyplays7942its as if he cannot handle criticism and people not agreeing 😂

  • @DiegoReviews
    @DiegoReviews 2 года назад +247

    This is everything I hoped for and beyond! Don't kid yourself, Matt. You're a Spawn fan now and you know it. Happy Spawntember!

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  2 года назад +57

      My life has been forever changed. Happy Spawntember!

    • @justinkeller2934
      @justinkeller2934 2 года назад +8

      Interesting video..whats that old Egyptian river called again.. o yea, Denial lmao the truth is I think most of the criticisms you made Matt about the overall body of work an story can also be found in many mainstream comics within Marvel and DC. The truth is I think the criticisms against the comic book genre in particular are fair (meaning that in the entire spectrum not just image comics it has always been art before substance even if other publishers didnt realize it) in that respect I think when ppl site those problems with Spawn I dont think its any less deep or richly written then Batman or Xmen for to give a few examples, campy storylines or what have you, mediocre writing that isn't close to a shakespearian level, plotholes, characters that are killed off an then magically brought back or fake tension (Supermans death made the cover of every magazine like it was an actual real thing after all), you can even find resolutions that aren't properly resolved. All the same problems Spawn has can be found in all those bigger more popular mainstream comics that ppl love, its still more mature in tone an less campy overall than the marvel and dc character stories and even at its worst the one place where Spawn has always excelled and reigned supreme from beginning to now above all those other superheros without question.. is the art. Happy Spawntember! 🖖😊

  • @benwasserman8223
    @benwasserman8223 2 года назад +178

    I mean we can debate the quality of Spawn's comic run all we want. But no one can say the HBO cartoon and Keith David's performance as Spawn (including Mortal Kombat) ever sucked whatsoever.

    • @mysteryperson1958
      @mysteryperson1958 2 года назад +3

      I'm pretty sure we could. The cartoon is a polished version of a shit story

    • @libertyprime6932
      @libertyprime6932 2 года назад +2

      @@mysteryperson1958 It's not your fault that your brain doesn't work properly. Hopefully they find a cure one day :)

    • @m4tt.jpg22
      @m4tt.jpg22 2 года назад +2

      @@libertyprime6932 no spawn sucks, you’ve just only read superhero event comics so you think it’s good

    • @landresking3988
      @landresking3988 2 года назад

      facts

    • @landresking3988
      @landresking3988 2 года назад

      @@m4tt.jpg22 the truth is its objective.

  • @spawnpoint215
    @spawnpoint215 2 года назад +117

    I feel like the show was written better, but even then I feel like spawn is very passive in that as well. I honestly never noticed until Matt said something. I guess Todd’s art is that distracting

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 2 года назад +22

      The passiveness kinda works with Spawn being more of a presence there with the focus being on the greater machinations of the other characters

    • @spawnpoint215
      @spawnpoint215 2 года назад +6

      @@ItsButterBean1020 that makes sense. I feel like sometimes a passive character works like Dream in the Sandman series, but a character like Spawn feels like he should at least be motivated by revenge but isn’t necessarily.

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 2 года назад +9

      @@spawnpoint215 I mean isn’t he? He’s more passive because he’s not got a lot to live for beyond just vengeance

    • @dajokahbaby1506
      @dajokahbaby1506 2 года назад +9

      Apparently that was an intentional decision by Todd McFarlane, he wanted Spawn to be less of a main character and more of a force that affects the story, kinda like Dream from Sandman (which McFarlane was also reading at the time) and Batman from Year One

    • @abloshow91
      @abloshow91 2 года назад +6

      But he isn't passive the stuff he does have extreme rippe effects of the world killing Kincaid changed the whole spawn universe it drives Sam and twitch's story the looking into the CIA with Wynn. Every movement he makes effects everything in the world.

  • @TheTiger2311
    @TheTiger2311 2 года назад +15

    Todd best creation is Spawn but his work on spidey reimagine which made him a legend .

  • @challenger9520
    @challenger9520 2 года назад +18

    Todd McFarlane was meant to be a comic book artist, toy designer and entrepreneur. Writing was never his strong point but he changed things forever!

  • @markuscriticus8278
    @markuscriticus8278 2 года назад +73

    To me, nothing sums Spawn as a character better than him being a literal Spawn of hell with vast magical demon powers-and he still uses GUNS.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 Год назад

      Yeh

    • @idiot_city5244
      @idiot_city5244 Год назад +4

      Very apparent reason why he uses guns lol

    • @BonusEggs4Sale
      @BonusEggs4Sale Год назад +4

      It's almost as though his powers have limited fuel and when it reaches 0 he goes back to hell to serve as a general, so Al Simmons decides to be smart about it and use his military training. If Spawn could use his powers willy nilly there would be zero drama and tension.

    • @anthonykarnes6804
      @anthonykarnes6804 9 месяцев назад +1

      Spawn has limited use of his power, read the comic if you want to have an opinion aboutvit

    • @markuscriticus8278
      @markuscriticus8278 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@anthonykarnes6804 I know smartass, which is in-universe explanation for him to still use guns, because all of McFarlane's ideas for the character have been based on "Man, wouldn't it be fuckign rad if".

  • @magnusprime962
    @magnusprime962 2 года назад +79

    So Spawn is just everything wrong with the Eddie Brock Venom amped up to 11? That actually makes a lot of sense.

    • @sebastienvondoom8615
      @sebastienvondoom8615 2 года назад +9

      @Shin Shaman okay Spawn fanboy

    • @sebastienvondoom8615
      @sebastienvondoom8615 2 года назад +1

      @Shin Shaman I'm not a Venom fanboy, Spawn fanboy. Obviously Spawn is more powerful, but Venom has had more consistently good writing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @zillafire101
      @zillafire101 2 года назад +1

      @Shin Shaman I'll jump in as a fan of both. I've only recently started buying them (Started with Spawn 300, and Extreme Carnage and Al Ewing's Venom), but it's more complicated.
      Venom did have some strange moments. Eddie Brock post-separation very much feels like they didn't know what to do with him, and Gargan era Venom is hit or miss. It wasn't until Agent Venom started getting published did the character start to feel more consistent and well-done. Mike Costa also had a good run, but Donny Cates was a little hit or miss on a lot of issues.
      Spawn also was really good in the early bits, but once he starts fighting Vampires like John Sansker, and stuff like that, it gets...wild, and kinda dragged the series down. The constant soft retcons and snap backs like "Oh, Spawn was actually abusive the whole time!" "Oh, Caligostro was really Cain and used Spawn to rule Hell!" "Oh, he actually caused his wife to miscarry and his unborn daughter became an even stronger Hellspawn!". This kinda drags the series down. A lot of good ideas rarely get any foreshadowing or build-up.
      Resurrection and the current run is much better at focusing and tightening the story, but right now, it doesn't feel like it's going anywhere. Spawn is just kinda...here and there, gathering resources, but it feels meandering, like Tod's more busy setting up stories with Gunslinger and the like then making a focused story.
      So, to both of you, I'd say Spawn and Venom have had issues with writing. They're both long runners. But their issues are slightly different.

    • @magnusprime962
      @magnusprime962 2 года назад

      @Shin Shaman It’s okay man, I don’t like either of them.

  • @MattyStoked
    @MattyStoked 2 года назад +107

    You spent 20 minutes trying to convince us that Spawn sucks and all you've done is forged our fandom in the fires of Hell. This was a great video, and Spawn rules.

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  2 года назад +23

      Search your feelings, you know it to be true!

    • @jacksithlord1301
      @jacksithlord1301 2 года назад +7

      @@MattDraper NOOOOOOO

    • @TheMoonman4
      @TheMoonman4 2 года назад +15

      I only know Spawn on surface-level, but yeah this video somehow just made me like the series more lol. Granted I probably won't read the comics...but I was always a sucker for the art

    • @Muhammadsharif.
      @Muhammadsharif. 2 года назад +1

      For reall

  • @izzydarkhart4144
    @izzydarkhart4144 2 года назад +90

    As a hard core spawn fan this video is pretty accurate. Mcfarlanes writing has improved a lot though, i really liked 296-301 but then he story slowed down to none existence but from 314 and current the story has been very solid with none stop action and actual story progression leading to a bigger universe. Mcfarlane also has caught on to people not liking his style which is why King Spawn will have a different writer and artist behind it and so for Sean Lewis is a far better writer and the reason it is getting as many good reviews. Mcfarlane promised he will give Lewis as much creative freedom as he wants and i hope he stands by it. I want to be optimistic about Gunslinger but it will still primarily by written by Mcfarlane so i guess we will see.

    • @dankusmemeus7093
      @dankusmemeus7093 Год назад +9

      Gunslinger turned out to be massively successful and it’s a good story imo

    • @firippuhiginzu901
      @firippuhiginzu901 Год назад

      @@dankusmemeus7093 Yeah, I loved gunslinger. I havent read the original series as im going to, but I wonder if the criticisms of the story and character are basically just things that people that read books about how stories are supposed to go, base these so called rules after which the average reader that doesn't read books about how to write dont even care about. Sometimes breaking the rules or going against the norm can be a good thing in my opinion.

    • @Sagee_
      @Sagee_ Год назад

      I just started reading Spawn comics and I'm still new to comics in general. I liked it very much, though the story going very slowly annoys me, when guest writers like Grant Morrison come in and shit hits the fan it's very cool. I'm glad that the newer issues and titles are successfull, deducti g from the replies.

    • @augustfreij9162
      @augustfreij9162 9 месяцев назад +1

      "Just read 300 issues and then it gets good" LMAO

    • @charginggemo8340
      @charginggemo8340 7 месяцев назад +1

      "I really liked 296-301" is such a funny statement to me. No hate if you like spawn but it has such "It gets good, I promise." vibes

  • @ScottCreley
    @ScottCreley 2 года назад +109

    There are two Grant Morrison issues of Spawn where they elevate the material as much as humanly possible. I enjoyed those. That's about all i csn say for the series despite it's importance to comics as a whole.

    • @qwellen7521
      @qwellen7521 2 года назад +32

      Neil Gaiman and Allan Moore also wrote issues. When put in the right hands, spawn could work. Is honestly wild that spawn hasn’t been hard rebooted and worked into the witch-blade/the darkness universe.

    • @ericjohnson9623
      @ericjohnson9623 2 года назад +4

      @@qwellen7521 I have not read the Morrison issues, but honestly, Gaiman and Moore's weren't very good. They weren't as terrible as Frank Miller's issue, but they weren't anything special either. Even though Matt criticizes it, I thought the Dave "Misogynist" Sim issue was the only good one and that's because it had nothing to do with Spawn.

    • @nivekleveb8872
      @nivekleveb8872 2 года назад +4

      The 3rd issue by Morrison is a massive let-down based on the first two he wrote...particularly the first one which (and I've only read the first Compendium worth and some of the more recent issues) is probably one of the best issues of the entire series. The Neil Gaiman issues (9 and the Angela miniseries) are fun comics, any disappointment is based on the fact that Gaiman's name is on it imo if they were written by a nobody people would be like "that guy was pretty good".

    • @qwellen7521
      @qwellen7521 2 года назад +7

      @Shin Shaman wow. Never thought I’d find a real world cryptid.

    • @MeThinks995
      @MeThinks995 2 года назад

      3 grant Morrison issues.

  • @MattDraper
    @MattDraper  2 года назад +9

    Happy Spawntember! For more Spawntember goodness, read the full essay at Comic Book Herald: www.comicbookherald.com/how-spawn-changed-comic-books-even-though-it-sucks/ and check out Diego Rivera's channel: ruclips.net/user/DiegoRiveraYT

    • @diegohaung2831
      @diegohaung2831 2 года назад

      Please do a video about hellblazer

    • @ransakreject5221
      @ransakreject5221 2 года назад

      Glad u agreed it sucked. Or I’d have lost respect. Terrible 90’s extreme leifeldish garbage

  • @tooneusmaximus6898
    @tooneusmaximus6898 2 года назад +18

    I can very much appreciate the fact that in almost 25 minutes of well written, insightful, if not truthfully critical content, I only realized you actually weren't a Spawn fan when you began iterating it at the end.
    That's the sign of a very impressive writer/essayist. While I disagree about the series sucking as a blanket statement, your more apt criticisms are things I've either personally felt, or openly discussed since the nineties. What Spawn is for me, other than an ostentatious breakthrough in comics (it opened so many doors for the industry as a whole to really let loose; for better or worse), was the certain... je ne sais quoi. It had a charm to it that seeded its self very early, and almost guided my taste in the macabre as a kid/ young teen.
    Overall, though, great video! Definitely got a follow out of me.

  • @PanelstoPixels
    @PanelstoPixels 2 года назад +307

    Your hypothesis that Spawn sucks is interesting but have you considered that actually Spawn rules?
    I'm so happy this video exists and I loved every minute of it. Happy Spawntember to you, Matt!

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  2 года назад +116

      This is a devastating counter argument. Happy Spawntemer to you, too, Josh! So glad you loved it!

    • @ScottCreley
      @ScottCreley 2 года назад +23

      No. This is not a thing one can hold in their mind. You've brought a terrible, doomed premise upon this house. Heaven and hell will fall. In like 700 issues.

    • @noobovsky420
      @noobovsky420 2 года назад +22

      Spawn def doesn’t suck haha.

    • @jimmyju76
      @jimmyju76 2 года назад +6

      Naw it sucked, nothing happened for 50 issues, the first 50 issues 😒

    • @SadakosTV
      @SadakosTV 2 года назад +21

      @@jimmyju76 its not a show, not everything needs to be solved at the end of each comic

  • @Elementa2006
    @Elementa2006 2 года назад +17

    "Famously, Masters of the Universe were toys first and cartoon second."
    While that was the intent on Mattel's part, Filmation to their credit put a lot of effort making the characters memorable as iconic cartoon characters and even came up some of their own lore that Mattel themselves don't really own.

  • @BriantheWolverine
    @BriantheWolverine 2 года назад +10

    Greg Capullo is basically my favorite Western comic artist. His work on Batman is legendary.

  • @jacksithlord1301
    @jacksithlord1301 2 года назад +51

    Now as a fan of spawn I agree with most points every story has ups and downs and spawns got them to but I think the story is awesome for a reason everyone has different tastes and that’s awesome too.
    Great job Matt
    Keep it up

  • @Chandasouk
    @Chandasouk 2 года назад +39

    Trash talking my Spawn? That HBO series was my life as a kid! Lol

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  2 года назад +16

      The HBO series is good!

    • @justinkeller2934
      @justinkeller2934 2 года назад +2

      So I guess you are a fan after all huh.. lol

    • @jimmyju76
      @jimmyju76 2 года назад

      Key words are HBO series, the comic sucked, hell most of Image pretty much sucked they were just given props for being edgy

    • @Chandasouk
      @Chandasouk 2 года назад

      @@jimmyju76 I thought the first 100 issues were cool but should have ended there. Things definitely went to shit though. The whole 90s era was extreme. We had short jacket Wonder Woman, Azrael, Adam X The "X-treme" lol

  • @inferno0020
    @inferno0020 Год назад +10

    I once created an OC villain based on Todd McFarlane (because I think he looks like one), but who am I to judge? He was good at what he was doing and built an entertainment empire from scratch

  • @SaundersBro1
    @SaundersBro1 2 года назад +31

    Matt: "Spawn sucks!"
    Me: "YOU SUCK!!! ... I'm so sorry. I didn't mean that..."
    Even when I disagree, your videos continue to fuel my passion for comic books. Keep up the great work, man.

  • @aurumproductions
    @aurumproductions 2 года назад +12

    I first picked up Spawn when I was 8 years old around issue 20; I loved the art and dark content. I was also drawn to it for being a comic without a long convoluted history with multiple monthly comics in its universe. I read everything Spawn until i was about 17 before being disappointed that it wasn't going to come to any kind of conclusion that was implied at the beginning

  • @josephkolar3443
    @josephkolar3443 2 года назад +7

    You have to love that early 90s heavy metal album cover and meathead action movie aesthetic that also gave us Mortal Kombat.

  • @sethlopez7769
    @sethlopez7769 2 года назад +121

    Spawn definitely doesn't suck. Very creative character! Definitely glad to see all the renewal for him, especially after being so long. I'm excited to what else comes out!

    • @lutherheggs451
      @lutherheggs451 2 года назад +12

      LMFAO yeah Spawn really does suck....Its sucked for decades. Everything beyond the first 10 issues just gets worse and worse....The only people that still love that shit are the same people who were those annoying emo edge lords in high school and thought they were "cool". It was even worse then McFarlane stopped writing or drawing it.

    • @PlsHelpMeImDumb
      @PlsHelpMeImDumb Год назад +3

      I agree with you

    • @PlsHelpMeImDumb
      @PlsHelpMeImDumb Год назад +1

      Opinions

    • @lawrenceinsley4114
      @lawrenceinsley4114 Год назад +19

      Spawn isn’t a bad character…it’s the writer behind him. As much as I like Mcfarlanes art, he shouldn’t be writing. This also shows in the Batman/Spawn crossover, which is terrible.

    • @ridiculoussinner4
      @ridiculoussinner4 Год назад +1

      All I know is I liked it a lot at first and wouldn't shut up about it. I've made it to issue 17 now and I kinda feel like backing out.

  • @samuelboundy7184
    @samuelboundy7184 2 года назад +26

    I remember buying Spawn/Batman and being SO excited to get home and read it.
    Imagine the disappointment.
    Of all the comic books I have sadly lost over the years, that isn't one of them.
    I sometimes forget I ever owned it.

  • @Emike-nc9ew
    @Emike-nc9ew 2 года назад +13

    Its clearly an example of the 90s TO THE EXTREME...has that air of the 90s,the comic,the cartoon and the movie has the air of the 90s.

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the info Matt 👍. Much ❤ as always

  • @mrinvisible6235
    @mrinvisible6235 2 года назад +1

    SPAWN made me really focus on detail as an artist I still come back with inspiration from reading an issue. Thank you for the motivation to keep drawing and painting in a way I can't express.

  • @Hulkzilla0
    @Hulkzilla0 2 года назад +4

    Spawn is in my top five favorite comic book superheroes, so I greatly appreciate this analysis.

  • @sarkastikleader4708
    @sarkastikleader4708 2 года назад +27

    I've been a fan of Spawn since the mid 90s and over the recent years McFarlane has been reminding me of a little bit Zack Snyder. Awesome at giving visuals to a world they love but needs to stay away from writing at all cost.

  • @sebastianmayer2501
    @sebastianmayer2501 2 года назад +1

    I had always known about Spawn, but I've never known him like this. great video.

  • @mikerohlfs2836
    @mikerohlfs2836 10 месяцев назад +1

    WOW....I can't believe you brought up Faust as an influence, awesome! Your the first person I've seen that brings up Quimm and Vigils Faust on anything.

  • @anitamann9217
    @anitamann9217 2 года назад

    Matt u do such a great variety of topics and being ur A game in such a dominant way

  • @briarpatchlogic
    @briarpatchlogic 2 года назад +38

    I understand the significance of Spawn... its just that having an amped up re-tooled Ghost Rider is not what I needed at the time. I did enjoy those earlier issues TM didn't write, however.

  • @DEATHxTHExKIDx1
    @DEATHxTHExKIDx1 2 года назад +11

    This sounds like the rule of cool. As long as it looks awesome the story ain't that important lol.

  • @gabrielgomes4228
    @gabrielgomes4228 Год назад

    So cool that you're a synthwave fan. What a good surprise to hear Dance With The Dead in the background. And The Midnight in the outro.

  • @osvaldotellez2044
    @osvaldotellez2044 2 года назад +2

    For me it's more interesting the behind the scenes stories and the creation of Spawn than the fictional history of the character.

  • @charleschamp9826
    @charleschamp9826 2 года назад +5

    Todd seems like a neat idea guy. He just needs a good... would editor be the right word here? I dunno, he just needs someone able and willing to veto him and take his ideas and change them when needed.

  • @owensreviews625
    @owensreviews625 2 года назад +3

    Wow, Spawntember is starting out strong this year.

  • @Apathesis0
    @Apathesis0 2 года назад +3

    Digging the MonoMemory Resident Evil cover song in the background 13:00

  • @camerongodsey9847
    @camerongodsey9847 2 года назад +3

    Whether you like him or not (but you like him, be honest with yourself), you really have to respect Matt for spending quite a number of hours researching and creating a video about a character/series that he hates.
    Thanks for putting this out! While Spawn’s quality is certainly debatable (McFarlane’s dialogue is questionable at best), its impact on independent comics was absolutely revolutionary for the industry

  • @jamesjordan3051
    @jamesjordan3051 Год назад +1

    I’m a spawn fan with a big run…and I found this video entertaining and hilarious with the criticism. Well done

  • @omgbreezy4707
    @omgbreezy4707 2 года назад +5

    Saying Spawn sucks is crazy. Especially the first 100 issues. It’s did fall off comic wise but damn the toys were 🔥🔥🔥. Shout out to you for this vid bc I never seen the toys commercial and I had all of them except Malebogia 😩

  • @asrexproductions
    @asrexproductions 9 месяцев назад

    OMG I love you. I feel like I've been waiting a lifetime for someone to make a comic book RUclips video with an actual critical eye, not fawning praise for some nostalgia of their childhood. #thankyou (is that still a thing?) SO much!

  • @fernandoluna6589
    @fernandoluna6589 2 года назад

    shut, this video didnt got a notification in my feed, great work as always matt

  • @guillermoproano1164
    @guillermoproano1164 2 года назад

    Amazing video!

  • @buhnana6117
    @buhnana6117 2 года назад +10

    Spawn may be hard to read and slow, but it got me into comics and its still a personal favorite of mine. But you can’t deny that the art is amazing no matter who’s doing it

  • @powerbad696
    @powerbad696 2 года назад +3

    Another GREAT video Matt.WELL DONE.I've never been a fan of Spawn,but I'm a McFarlane fan,he once lived in a trailer home,now he's a multimillionaire.He owns 2 of the top-selling comicbook records in history,he worked hard and smart to make his dreams come true.A few mis-steps here and there-HE'S HUMAN after all???Lost respect for him the way he treated Neil Gaiman tho.Those checks must have been BIG!!! Greed can over whelm anyone.I like how and why Image was formed.Todd is BRASH,BOLD,OPINIONATED,yet treats his comic fans well.Keep'em coming Matt,love your channel BUB.

  • @jackbaylessFX
    @jackbaylessFX 2 года назад +6

    Even though I’m a die hard Spawn fan, this was still a great video. I’d be interested to hear your take on a series like Savage Dragon or John Constantine: Hellblazer

  • @iap7597
    @iap7597 2 года назад +3

    Just started watching the HBO show and I gotta say that while everything I know about Spawn is surface level I can’t help but love it.

  • @liesureleeminis8268
    @liesureleeminis8268 2 года назад +3

    The best portion of the news heads is the absolute parody of different news channels spins on the same stories.

  • @lonelychameleon3595
    @lonelychameleon3595 2 года назад +1

    I have tried many times to get into Spawn and each time felt like I was running head first into a brick wall.

  • @user-df9fd3jh1c
    @user-df9fd3jh1c 2 года назад

    Thanks for this episode))

  • @timfortune9
    @timfortune9 10 месяцев назад +2

    I've always loved the concept behind the character but I've never been able to actually be all that invested in the actual comics. Really, I tried to read it and pretty much put it down after the first talking heads section.

  • @Hollowdude15
    @Hollowdude15 9 месяцев назад

    Great video man and spawn is so cool :]

  • @bertanosomething9246
    @bertanosomething9246 2 года назад

    Never thought I would see the day. It’s everything I wanted it to be and more, Happy Spawntember everyone!

  • @billyscenic5610
    @billyscenic5610 9 месяцев назад

    Great overview of the Spawn franchise.

  • @jamesdotson797
    @jamesdotson797 2 года назад +1

    I think that Spawn is experiencing a slight boost in popularity because of its' place in comics history as having the ability to redefine the medium, and people kind of want to see that happen again. Also great video Matt! Even if Spawn isn't your thing

  • @HumanIsError
    @HumanIsError 2 года назад +1

    The issue with spawn is the exact way the new movie is being pitched. That Spawn would be a background character, a rumor not taking the spot light. The HBO show does exactly the same thing, brooding in an alley as people ask him to do literally anything.

  • @alx_carvalho
    @alx_carvalho 4 месяца назад

    Love The Midnight song at the end

  • @Abergsma54
    @Abergsma54 2 года назад +4

    Spawn’s best issues were the ones with Al Simmons when Jim Downing replaced Al I refused to buy them but when Al came back I bought the ones with him because Al Simmons was good

  • @MonkeyJoe92
    @MonkeyJoe92 2 года назад +1

    The “cosmic gumbo” line drop made me laugh out loud. 😆

  • @graysonred2641
    @graysonred2641 2 года назад

    Awesome video

  • @MangaMattReviews
    @MangaMattReviews 2 года назад +8

    20:31. Given that Todd didn’t write spawn for a significant chunk of that 300 issues I don’t see it as an achievement on the same level as Sims Cerebus which he did write all 300 issues of. To me, it’d be like if Eastman and Laird got to count all the TMNT comics they didn’t write to their overall count of comics they wrote for the past 40 years.

  • @jamilfrost6217
    @jamilfrost6217 2 года назад +2

    Everything you said in this video is exactly how I feel about spawn and it's creator Todd McFarlane. Also you should do a video on cerebus.

  • @JoshuaHenelyThornhill
    @JoshuaHenelyThornhill 2 года назад +1

    I did not know how crazy impactful Spawn was now I understand the mad love he gets from everyone. Gotta check that animated series it looks insane !

  • @AlienBusDriver1
    @AlienBusDriver1 2 года назад

    great work as usual, i would love to see you do a video on hellblazer down the line.

  • @ryanhalawani2637
    @ryanhalawani2637 2 года назад +5

    It true... the prophecy was true. Matt finally brought himself to make a Spawn video. Matt does it so that we don't have to. We salute you sir 🤣. I'm wondering if this all secretly a way of subliminally telling us that he's gonna star in a supporting role in the new Spawn film.

  • @thecomicreadern4344
    @thecomicreadern4344 2 года назад +6

    Spawn is a character with potential and there have been good stories,and the mythology sounds good on paper,but the way it has turned out is not so good,but the art has always been awesome

    • @benquirobiequiratman4646
      @benquirobiequiratman4646 11 месяцев назад

      agreed if your into dark fantasy Read Elric novels By Michael Moorcock. on his Multiverse novels & and eternal champion with a black sword called Stormbringer &
      black sword Mourned blade soul eater swords. if like spawn. Try reading some dark fantasy Elric

  • @butchersrespawn
    @butchersrespawn 2 года назад +19

    I love Spawn I think he's a great character in itself. Definitely a misunderstood loner with supernatural powers. I loved Greg Capullo's early Spawn work with his art style from Marvel before copying Todd's style. Todd to me just wanted to quit drawing after 16 or 17 issues. I think he wanted to make toys and do the get rich scheme on us fans and the world. The Satan Lee of Image.

  • @mariod1547
    @mariod1547 2 года назад +1

    I began reading the comics about last year from issue 1 and I'm pass 200 and i am enjoying them. I'm a fan now.

  • @SlobZombie
    @SlobZombie 2 года назад +3

    Spawn Rules!!!
    Hes stood the test of time and has earned his spot in the comic book hall of fame .
    Spawn is here to stay

    • @jamichealruiz8640
      @jamichealruiz8640 Год назад +3

      Facts spawn is underrated 🔥

    • @SlobZombie
      @SlobZombie 6 месяцев назад

      ​@jamichealruiz8640 he's got his cult following...this Kool Aid so good

  • @Mekanismo
    @Mekanismo 9 месяцев назад +1

    Spawn brought me here and I'm subscribing to this channel because of this content :D

  • @Trakinasnove
    @Trakinasnove 2 года назад +6

    I loved this video, it's just Matt shit talking Spawn for 20 minutes. Beautiful!

  • @stevenguitink5947
    @stevenguitink5947 2 года назад +1

    Certainly wasn't expecting a reference to Faust: Love of the Damned of all things.

  • @makosen8911
    @makosen8911 2 года назад

    GOAT VIDEO ONCE AGAIN

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 2 года назад

    Great video! I'm glad you've mentioned how HOT🔥Spawns popularity was during the time DC/ Marvel were falling short. Though you've been Negative on Spawn, I'm glad you've spoken openly about the character, his history and impact. Thank you for your honesty- and face it...there's a little bit of Spawn fan in you !

  • @ralfxephon1
    @ralfxephon1 2 года назад

    I just suscribed, greetings from MÉXICO

  • @A23Channel1
    @A23Channel1 2 года назад

    That lawsuit from the hockey player got a chuckle out of me.

  • @Naqvioski
    @Naqvioski Год назад +1

    You know what...an anthology of Spawn shorts with 40% anime/manga creators could create crazy sale numbers.

  • @BigT4489
    @BigT4489 2 года назад +2

    Another brilliant video man. I was excited to see you dig into the legacy of Spawn more so than the title itself (even if I've never read a issue I know it's not worth it). Amazes me how this character has found such a foothold in the last thirty years of comics history

  • @thebelmont1995
    @thebelmont1995 2 года назад +2

    This is one of my favorite franchises of all time. And quite possibly my favorite super hero of all time. I love spawn. It's one of the things close to my heart.

  • @AkiDave
    @AkiDave 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video as usual. But a lot of your criticisms of early spawn are mine with Spider-Man: Torment. It’s obvious that the art is what’s mean to be the drawing point. While the writing is often repetitive, writing was literally on the panel. Pacing being thrown out the window and etc. I definitely want to make this a video at some point , your video kind of helped me solidify my thoughts.

  • @DzustComics
    @DzustComics 2 года назад +2

    Dude, you NEED to cover Monstress! That book deserves about 97 times the readers it has!

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  2 года назад +4

      Yeah it's a really great comic!

  • @NobodyC13
    @NobodyC13 2 года назад +2

    "Made in the 90s, Spawn Spawn SPAWN
    Created by a guy named McFarlane
    Had his own show on HBO
    Did the plot make sense?
    No, no, no. . ."
    -Robot Chicken

  • @notgonnapay
    @notgonnapay 2 года назад +3

    Spawn was the only comic book I was able to truly enjoy. The excessive narration and unique art style is what set it apart from other comics.

  • @josevinicius6908
    @josevinicius6908 2 года назад

    Yeaaaaahhh the music is baaaaaacccckkk

  • @ReaperXC
    @ReaperXC Год назад +1

    McFarlane didn't 'explode' on to the scene. It took a while for him to gather his following.

  • @morcova
    @morcova 9 месяцев назад +1

    Spawn was the first comic I bought on a regular basis that wasn't a dc or marvel property.

  • @TechnicolorGhosts
    @TechnicolorGhosts 2 года назад +8

    Spawn is like that dude you thought was really cool when you were younger, but as you got older you realise how much of a massive dork they were.

  • @jf1573
    @jf1573 Год назад +1

    It are the spin-offs that make Spawn great. The mini-series Angela, Violator, and Blood Feud (Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore) are really fun to read.

  • @arminceljaj5916
    @arminceljaj5916 2 года назад +1

    I tried to read spawn twice and the plotline always held me back.

  • @Mr.Boglin
    @Mr.Boglin Месяц назад +1

    i love Mcfarane, and his art... but i love Gregs art even MORE!

  • @HeavyLiquidOfficial
    @HeavyLiquidOfficial 2 года назад

    I always felt Spawn is the KISS and WWE of comics. Love this video, thank you!