BATMAN: THE LONG HALLOWEEN - The Horrific Transformation of Gotham City

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2019
  • An analysis of Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's comic book magnum opus, "Batman: The Long Halloween" and its themes of the long defeat in The Dark Knight's everlasting war.
    Special thanks to my voiceover guests. Please check out their awesome channels!
    La'Ron Readus as Batman - / readus101
    Owen Farrington as J.R.R. Tolkien - / @owenlikescomics
    Griffin Schiller as Jeph Loeb - / @filmspeak
    Nick Kazden as The Riddler - / @ricknazden
    Josh from Panels to Pixels as The Joker - / @panelstopixels
    Diego Rivera as Two-Face - / @diegoreviews
    Scott Niswander as Calendar Man - / @nerdsyncproductions
    Captain Midnight as Alberto Falcone - / @captainmidnight
    Mikayla J. Laird as Gilda Dent - / @mikaylajlaird
    PATREON - / mattdraper
    TWITTER - / mattdraperyt
    #Batman
    #LongHalloween
    #DCComics
    Music:
    “They’re Here (Intro)” and “Eye of the Storm” by Dance With The Dead
    dancewiththedead.bandcamp.com/
    “City Lights” by stream_error
    streamerror.bandcamp.com/
    “Nightfall” by Timecop1983
    timecop1983.bandcamp.com/
    “La Morte della Speranza” by Mitch Murder
    mitchmurder.bandcamp.com/
    “Detroit” by Disasterpeace
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    “Collateral” and “Shadows” by The Midnight
    themidnight.bandcamp.com/
    Sources:
    www.syfy.com/syfywire/eccc-20...
    www.cbr.com/a-scribe-for-all-...
    www.thegospelcoalition.org/ar...
    comicsverse.com/retrospective...
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  • @DevonPalmer98
    @DevonPalmer98 4 года назад +1826

    I wish Batman had events like this again, such a fun read.

    • @saracohle
      @saracohle 4 года назад +102

      Devon Palmer - The Snyder books like Court of Owls and now Last Knight on Earth kind of fill that need.
      At least for me.

    • @DevonPalmer98
      @DevonPalmer98 4 года назад +117

      Sara Cohle
      Would like another mystery centered story, feel like Batman hasn’t been a detective in years.

    • @Cj-xt6tv
      @Cj-xt6tv 4 года назад +26

      The recent comics have gone to shit

    • @alvarolopezrodriguez3255
      @alvarolopezrodriguez3255 4 года назад +7

      @@saracohle Snyder would never be able to write a comic without all their tropes and commiting the same mistakes he has been doing over the las 5 years

    • @dantecrottogini529
      @dantecrottogini529 4 года назад +9

      what do you mean events? Stoeylines? this wasn't an event

  • @jimfine
    @jimfine 2 года назад +408

    I always loved how the long Halloween showed the transition of Gotham being run by gangsters to then being consumed by super crime. It’s also more tragic how Batman can take out regular organized crime but he can’t take out the rising super criminals he helped to partially inspire

    • @hudsologamezzz2290
      @hudsologamezzz2290 2 года назад +21

      Just read it for the first time today and the panel with all of the super villains holding falcone hostage hit so hard. The time of organazied crime was over and now insane dudes were about to take over. Such a great read

    • @BradLad56
      @BradLad56 Год назад

      Yeah but that's also a creative choice because if that happened, there'd be no more stories lol

    • @smileyent.3055
      @smileyent.3055 Год назад +1

      its also the fact that if he really wanted to, he could permanently rid gotham of all its supervillains in one night like in arkham but that would be going against his own code, thus creating a catch 22 situation for him and fuelling his endless fight against super crime

    • @Vadim_Slastihin
      @Vadim_Slastihin Год назад +1

      @@hudsologamezzz2290 the irony of it is that it was the son of gangster who marked the end of age of gangsters...

  • @antshield
    @antshield 4 года назад +1439

    Perhaps that is why Batman has lasted 80 years. We root for Batman's fight because we each struggle with our own version of a long defeat.

    • @darinholm8795
      @darinholm8795 4 года назад +15

      @sos sos "most"? You never read any of the crisis comics or any of the other universe wipes? Most of the characters ever created are no longer running. It takes more than just being a comic book character to survive the years. Most characters that remain have something that let's them feel relatable. Let's just say there is a reason characters like "Bouncing Boy" arent a big deal anymore.

    • @RyanLBrown9396
      @RyanLBrown9396 4 года назад +66

      Superman = American Dream
      Batman = American reality

    • @Long_Live_T4C0
      @Long_Live_T4C0 3 года назад +4

      @@RyanLBrown9396 that's very well said.👍

    • @corruptedmight
      @corruptedmight 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/uR7URJZHhhY/видео.html

    • @hypatia137
      @hypatia137 3 года назад +1

      Mainstream DC: American Dream & a dream pretending to be real
      Old Vertigo: Not only reality of US but also reality of all humankind, hidden reality within fiction and nightmares

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 4 года назад +553

    In a way it's always Halloween in Gotham.

    • @djalexander7723
      @djalexander7723 4 года назад +29

      And it's not the good version of Halloween

    • @djalexander7723
      @djalexander7723 4 года назад +15

      @HahaItsPatrick I prefer the one where people dress up in spooky costumes and get candy for free

    • @triple-d2640
      @triple-d2640 2 года назад

      @HahaItsPatrick Scooby doo

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 2 года назад +1

      @@djalexander7723 Devil's Night

    • @davidbettcher8843
      @davidbettcher8843 8 месяцев назад

      Indeed it is.

  • @brendondellinger355
    @brendondellinger355 4 года назад +840

    For those who don't know, The Dark Knight movie took this comic as one of its inspirations.
    This can mostly be seen through the close cooperation through Batman, Harvey, and Gordon.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 4 года назад +84

      You can also see the shift from mobster to supervillain crime in the series Gotham.

    • @big-loss_9043
      @big-loss_9043 4 года назад +7

      yea

    • @EGRJ
      @EGRJ 4 года назад +28

      "I believe in Harvey Dent."

    • @lawrencelawrence8553
      @lawrencelawrence8553 4 года назад +32

      Apparently a lot of Batman iterations took inspiration from this arc. I came here because the New live action Batman is apparently heavily based on this. The Arkham game series literally says it takes a lot of influence from the Long Halloween series in the game itself

    • @Savior-ml4pq
      @Savior-ml4pq 4 года назад +23

      Batman begins took from year one, the dark knight took from a long halloween, and the dark knight rises from knight fall

  • @OwenLikesComics
    @OwenLikesComics 4 года назад +634

    Imagine being as talented an editor as Matt Draper? I can't relate.

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +64

      Thank you, Owen! And yes, you can relate plenty!

    • @FancyGeeks
      @FancyGeeks 4 года назад +20

      Imagine being as handsome as me- Never mind.

    • @alvarozornoza4437
      @alvarozornoza4437 2 года назад +2

      @@MattDraper whats the name of the last song?

  • @Dark-Shadow110
    @Dark-Shadow110 2 года назад +28

    R.I.P Tim Sale. We have truly lost an icon in the comic book world. His legacy will live on forever through his breathtaking and unique artwork.

  • @gavinmcphie6936
    @gavinmcphie6936 4 года назад +483

    I don't think you got the right takeaway from what the twist implied actually happened (because everything makes total sense).
    Gilda was only responsible for the first three killings, which were all in direct retaliation for someone threatening Harvey's safety (Viti for mudering Richard Daniel, the Irish for blowing up their house, and accidentally the bodyguard in place of Joker after he broke into their home).
    Alberto picked up the killings from then on in an effort to capitalize on the first three. Finally, Harvey killed Falcone, making him the final Holiday killer.
    Gilda thought Harvey was the one who picked up the killings, but it was actually Alberto. Nobody knew anything about Gilda's involvement (which further emphasizes how the Long Halloween was Batman's greatest failure).

    • @tayojones9460
      @tayojones9460 4 года назад +31

      I thought making Gilda the killer was forced and made no sense. I mean I cannot honestly take the idea of Gilda being the killer seriously. They should have kept it a mystery. Just like how Joe Chill was never caught. Truly Bats greatest failure

    • @chrisossu2070
      @chrisossu2070 4 года назад +94

      I always thought it was an execution of the psychological phenomenon known as the "stand alone complex", in which individuals completely independent of each other unknowingly contribute to a single goal. For different reasons, all of them wanted the mob dead, and so they all became both the copycat and the real "Holiday Killer" at the same time.

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +46

      If Gilda didn’t shoot Alberto, then who shot him on New Year’s? It’s Harvey. He came home with wet hair. Alberto didn’t fake it, they showed Holiday was there. So your explanation has a big hole in the center that you skipped over.

    • @gavinmcphie6936
      @gavinmcphie6936 4 года назад +66

      @@MattDraper Nobody shot Alberto. He faked his own death. Harvey's wet hair was a red herring (and because of the snow). It was just a lucky coincidence that it was the same night that Gilda stopped.
      There's also the theory that it was always Alberto from the start possibly with Carmine's assistance, meaning Gilda is just delusional. It could make sense, but imo it's less interesting.

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +14

      Gavin McPhie yeah but they show him get shot. The amount of mental gymnastics that need to happen to make sense of it all shows the flaw in the mystery

  • @princeblackelf4265
    @princeblackelf4265 4 года назад +71

    You can really see the influence of this on Arkham Knight, this idea that Gotham is not a city that Batman can properly save, it's completely spun out from beyond something that was once grounded crime to something that's out of the realm of the real world, super-villany that is defined by how utterly depraved it is.

  • @darkroninmarvel
    @darkroninmarvel 4 года назад +440

    Dark souls player: oh god this painful crusade wont end!
    Batman: that's cute

    • @nightshade3100
      @nightshade3100 4 года назад

      s

    • @jesseking1403
      @jesseking1403 4 года назад +9

      Batman DLC. I know that won't ever happen, but one can imagine.

    • @y1751
      @y1751 4 года назад +12

      Batman: aaaaaaaaa my parents I'll avenge you!!!! I'll go a eternal crusade
      warhammer 40k:we have a chapter supply based on a eternal crusade

    • @ernestinemaloy6752
      @ernestinemaloy6752 4 года назад

      @@nightshade3100 excuse me ??

    • @josephlinden1630
      @josephlinden1630 4 года назад +9

      Guts laughing in the background

  • @lukebaxter3252
    @lukebaxter3252 4 года назад +506

    This just makes me want to read this comic a whole lot more. I wouldn't mind it being adapted into a miniseries or a film. Keep up with the brilliant work.

    • @shadysam8879
      @shadysam8879 4 года назад +40

      I believe DC is adapting it as an animated movie. And rumor has it that Matt Reeves Batman movie will be based on it.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 4 года назад +63

      If you squint, you'll realize that this series served as the basis of both Nolan's The Dark Knight and the recently wrapped TV series Gotham.

    • @wiinterflowers4277
      @wiinterflowers4277 4 года назад +7

      ClockworkAlex It was confirmed actually.

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 4 года назад +3

      I was thinking i would like an adaptation too. Trough I would be to change Scarecrow only speaking in lullaby... I find that random

    • @jerrygodeep4787
      @jerrygodeep4787 4 года назад +1

      ClockworkAlex I’m not 100 percent sure but I’m pretty sure that was when it Affleck was involved.

  • @RadinV1
    @RadinV1 4 года назад +369

    Easily my favorite Batman story.

    • @mullaoslo
      @mullaoslo 3 года назад +2

      Dark victory is also a great sequel.. I love long halloween but I read it for years without realising its litteraly the story of the godfather 😂 and I don't hate it for it.. Batman X the godfather had to turn out amazing

  • @The_BlackTemplar
    @The_BlackTemplar 4 года назад +50

    I love this book. Great transition from a city held in the grip of the mob and one torn apart by lunatics. The coloring of the city feels like it's a polluted place with an ugly soul.

  • @beanofsteel
    @beanofsteel 2 года назад +106

    These are the Batman stories I love. The character is supposed to have this sense of realism to him. These detective stories are so much more interesting than Batman being invincible cuz prep time.

    • @nikaoharbour6962
      @nikaoharbour6962 2 года назад +2

      I agree
      I feel batman doesn't need to be defeated by darkseid or some superpowered foe
      Instead his challenge is mental as represented by his rogues gallery

    • @higaiwokeru
      @higaiwokeru Год назад +6

      I honestly love realistic batman
      it’s always stupid or annoying how he beats gods and immortals because hes a billion steps ahead or how he tries to make sense of nonsense like the God bullet (that for some reason turned out to be the bullet that killed JFK and his parents)
      it’s jarring and childish

    • @Axel-ye8tt
      @Axel-ye8tt Год назад

      @@higaiwokeru nigga it’s comics and him being smarter makes sense simce he has the iq for it

    • @fatalsniper3413
      @fatalsniper3413 Год назад

      @@Axel-ye8tt wrong. Batman isn’t popular because he can defeat GODs. He’s popular because he fights somewhat regular villains without powers/bs suits. Not every character needs to be able to beat gods

    • @moonknight4053
      @moonknight4053 Год назад

      Batman is metahuman but he can still be relatable that’s what is good about him. Superman can be is well, same as Thor, cap, etc

  • @AceLM92
    @AceLM92 4 года назад +140

    Cliche to say they don't make comics like they used to, but it's absolutely true. This is one of my favorite Batman comics and finding more than one issue of the story in person has been even more difficult than finding all issues of Year One and the Dark Knight Returns (both of which I have a complete set of)

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 4 года назад +1

      Ace Möwick well they do sell the trades and they are easy to find

    • @AceLM92
      @AceLM92 4 года назад

      @@oliviawilliams6204 I have a trade, but i also collect back issues

    • @bulletbraino4
      @bulletbraino4 3 года назад +2

      The only problem I have with this statement is that the only comics that were EVER made like this were Batman comics and things like The Watchmen that were one off stories. But even then you’re right, because they don’t even make Batman comics like they used to.

  • @DJNLdabest
    @DJNLdabest 4 года назад +9

    I actually kinda like those Godfather references in the Long Halloween. They're obvious, but fun to discover. I even imagine reading Falcone's lines with Vito's voice.

  • @evandavid2816
    @evandavid2816 4 года назад +80

    Heh, I remember trying to convince one of my old English professors at Swansea University to read this story way back when; he was teaching us a course on Crime Fiction - and doing a brilliant job of it as I recall - and I thought that Long Hallowe'en matched up with a lot of the themes of American Crime Fiction in particular that he was discussing...sadly, he could never get past the art, which is a shame, because Tim Sale is still one of my favourites, yes? Anyway, brilliant video all round...and your voice cast in particular did an amazing job to boot, yes?

    • @TJSehmby
      @TJSehmby 4 года назад +8

      My dad's an english professor and he taught this story (much to the dislike of the school)

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 4 года назад +7

      Yeah I’m not a fan of the art either... but it’s not enough to stop me from enjoying it. I have more problems with scarecrow talking in lullabies lol

    • @evandavid2816
      @evandavid2816 4 года назад +3

      @@oliviawilliams6204 Yeah, I mean personally I love the art, but I can see how it would be an acquired taste for some; plus my old professor, while a very smart chap and an excellent teacher to boot, simply wasn't into comics at all so...what can you do, yes?

    • @dustinakadustin
      @dustinakadustin 3 года назад +1

      The art took some getting used too but it wasn't too long before I was thoroughly enjoying it!

  • @Christ2010Grad
    @Christ2010Grad 4 года назад +73

    FINALLY!!!
    I love this graphic novel.
    It was the basis for Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 4 года назад +15

      Eh, actually Year One was the basis of Batman Begins. The Dark Knight was The Long Halloween for sure, though. And The Dark Knight Rises was a combo of Knightfall and The Dark Knight Returns.

    • @Christ2010Grad
      @Christ2010Grad 4 года назад +3

      Johnathon Haney Some of the plot points in The Long Halloween were still used for Batman Begins, though. Falcone’s downfall being one of the points.

    • @antona.8659
      @antona.8659 4 года назад

      @@johnathonhaney8291, The Dark Knight Rises was based more on Cataclysm, No Man's Land, and Legacy.

    • @omarsalem1219
      @omarsalem1219 2 года назад

      @Anton A. It's biggest inspiration is defenitley knightfall though

  • @gnarwhal7562
    @gnarwhal7562 4 года назад +69

    Y'know this shit good when it heavily inspired the Dark Knight

  • @sifatshams1113
    @sifatshams1113 4 года назад +91

    As a huge film noir fan, I caught 2 references: Gilda and The Big Heat

    • @gundanout11
      @gundanout11 4 года назад

      Gilda appeared in Batman: The Animated Series as Grace Lamont, fiancée to D.A. Harvey Dent.

  • @maniacalmurderer4123
    @maniacalmurderer4123 3 года назад +16

    I wish calendar man had more of an appearance in most of the DC franchise. There is more to him that meets the eye. He has major potential.

  • @KR-nf3is
    @KR-nf3is 4 года назад +27

    i’m just glad that Calendar Man is here.

  • @sabishiihito
    @sabishiihito 2 года назад +6

    I love how Richard Moll's take on Two Face from BTAS set the standard for pretty much every animated/voiced portrayal since.

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 4 года назад +15

    Long Halloween is one of the pinnacle storytelling of the Batman mythos

  • @michaelpisciarino5348
    @michaelpisciarino5348 4 года назад +19

    4:05 Trait-Emphasis, Caricatures
    5:04 Villains
    8:40 The Fall of Harvey Dent
    11:30 The Mysterious Holiday Killer, Alberto Moroni

  • @dylanmcmahon4902
    @dylanmcmahon4902 4 года назад +95

    This has to be my favorite Batman story ever. It's so cinematic in its presentation. Such a great and tragic story with striking art to boot
    Great video as always!

  • @paulcourtemanche3549
    @paulcourtemanche3549 2 года назад +14

    I love The Long Halloween. My personal theory is that Gilda wasn’t Holiday, she just convinced herself that she was out of grief for Harvey. He was Holiday until he made a deal with Alberto and then Alberto took over.

  • @vicenteortegarubilar9418
    @vicenteortegarubilar9418 4 года назад +11

    As a kid watching the words halloween and batman in the same comic was all I needed to buyed and readed.

  • @AAllen-br8it
    @AAllen-br8it 4 года назад +29

    Best reading order for beginning of career Batman and Gotham's transformation:
    -Year One
    -And the Monster Men (optional)
    -The Mad Monk (optional)
    -The Man Who Laughs
    -Dead to Rights
    -The Long Halloween

    • @AdemNBTR
      @AdemNBTR 4 года назад +1

      Rick J-420 So, would you recommend me to get all those titles and then read them in that order? I ask because I have never read the Long Halloween.

    • @MP-ue7ol
      @MP-ue7ol 4 года назад +2

      @@AdemNBTR They are good stories but you don't have to read them in order. The Long Halloween is a great story all on its own and definitely worth reading

    • @AdemNBTR
      @AdemNBTR 4 года назад

      Bennet Pollmann Thank you so much! I have a comic book store in a walking distance so hopefully I can get it there and read it.

    • @AAllen-br8it
      @AAllen-br8it 4 года назад +4

      They're certainly not connected to the point where you must read them in order to understand the others at all. But if you're looking to be a chronological collector, like I am, then it is very enjoyable to read Batman comics that way, particularly these year 1 era stories, should you find yourself with them in your possession.

  • @TheValeyard92
    @TheValeyard92 4 года назад +33

    The Gilda reveal is just her delusion. It's impossible for Gilda to have committed any of the three murders she claimed to have.
    It's to show how thoroughly broken everything good in Gotham has been.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 4 года назад +8

      "I believe in Harvey Dent."

    • @lawrencelawrence8553
      @lawrencelawrence8553 4 года назад

      How is it impossible?

    • @billshears6062
      @billshears6062 3 года назад +14

      @@lawrencelawrence8553 For the first killing, who did Gilda even get near Johnny Viti? How would she have breached the security and known he was taking a bath? And then went home when the house exploded
      For the second killing, Gilda was in the hospital. She somehow left the hospital, got a gun, (house destroyed) located the Irish, and then outgunned 5 men. Then got back to the hospital with no one noticing.
      The third killing is a bit more plausible, but that would require that Gilda follows the Joker to the penthouse and by luck stumbled on Milos and killed him. But how would she do all that when she was still in a wheelchair and Harvey must’ve been checking up on her?
      A lot of this is explained by Alberto being the killer the whole time. Alberto had access to the penthouse and Johnny on the first killing.
      Alberto knew the Irish had been released and followed them to the hotel!
      Alberto lives in the penthouse, and killed Milos once he followed the Joker outside.
      How did Gilda get the guns?
      Alberto could’ve just bought them from the Gunsmith.
      How did Gilda know how to shoot, well enough to take out 5 men before they could shoot back?
      Alberto could’ve asked any of his family members.
      His motive is clear, as he obviously resented his father and wanted to overshadow him as “Holiday.”
      I personally believe that Gilda is delusional at the end of The Long Halloween. Which goes to show how the events of that year horrible scarred a lot of people.

    • @GhostRydr1172
      @GhostRydr1172 2 года назад

      I hadn't thought of it that way, that she was delusional out of grief. I guess that could make that fakeout work, even if not explicitly or implicitly told that way.

    • @tasmsinist3rsix664
      @tasmsinist3rsix664 2 года назад

      Yea, that's why I prefer the animated movie. Her being Holiday from day 1 just makes the most sense. Especially since they changed the backstory to even allow her to be Holiday at one point.

  • @MattDraper
    @MattDraper  4 года назад +25

    Special thanks to my guests for taking part in this Halloween voiceover party! Please check out their awesome channels.
    La'Ron Readus as Batman - ruclips.net/user/Readus101
    Owen Farrington as J.R.R. Tolkien - ruclips.net/channel/UCt5vXzi4-_puVb6H6AL4Fyw
    Griffin Schiller as Jeph Loeb - ruclips.net/channel/UCAlhR6RxXQux2LWok1cIL6w
    Nick Kazden as The Riddler - ruclips.net/channel/UCrIiCib2JW805v9W7k79TXg
    Josh from Panels to Pixels as The Joker - ruclips.net/channel/UCFZHvUVELqH56dJiMLhD9qg
    Diego Rivera as Two-Face - ruclips.net/channel/UCVjySc4VhVoHK5RDSzbAxug
    Scott Niswander as Calendar Man - ruclips.net/channel/UCURz5rKDgt7YibUSageNhEw
    Captain Midnight as Alberto Falcone - ruclips.net/channel/UCROQqK3_z79JuTetNP3pIXQ
    Mikayla J. Laird as Gilda Dent - ruclips.net/channel/UCOaRubZEnETg85GTrkjl84Q

  • @imjmar
    @imjmar 4 года назад +81

    “Look at the bats, I freakin love Halloween”
    -little girl from Vine
    #RIPVine

  • @johnathonhaney8291
    @johnathonhaney8291 4 года назад +9

    A relevant quote from Dame Agatha Christie: "One gets the terrible impression that war solves nothing, that to win a war is every bit as disastrous as to lose one."
    Oh and please, please, PLEASE do a followup to this with Dark Victory, a direct sequel to this that gets no love.

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +5

      This is great! There WILL be a Dark Victory video at some point.

  • @alessiodelcastillo1613
    @alessiodelcastillo1613 4 года назад +43

    Batman vs the Mafia is a match made in Heaven. The best movie genre has notoriously been gangster/crime/noir and matching that with a superhero is awesome.
    Wish DC would pay more attention to villains like Carmine Falcone, Salvatore Maroni, Black Mask (Roman Sionis, and Penguin (Oswald Cobblepot). Crime bosses and old school gangsters

    • @watchm4ker
      @watchm4ker 2 года назад +2

      That's The Shadow, and that's what Batman was... sometimes blatantly ripping off, back in the early days. What finally made the character stand out *was* enemies like the Joker, the Riddler, Catwoman, etc. Larger than life villains that the Shadow didn't have, for the most part.

  • @omegaink5635
    @omegaink5635 4 года назад +19

    My favorite Batman Story, from my favorite RUclipsr...

  • @OwenLikesComics
    @OwenLikesComics 4 года назад +8

    I love this comic, I love this video, and I love everyone involved in it. Thank you for having me, Matt!

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад

      You're the best, Owen! So glad you could be part of it.

  • @SAPProd
    @SAPProd 4 года назад +3

    On top of the reasons you gave as to why the Gilda twist doesn’t work, it’s a huge stretch, of not impossibility, to accept that she committed the killings on Thanksgiving when she was hospitalized and heavily monitored, as well as leaving her husband to follow the Joker to the Falcone Towers. It just doesn’t work, and Occam’s Razor dictates that Alberto was the sole killer (well, Dent killing Falcone on the second Halloween) and that Gilda has simply gone mad along with her husband and was simply burning evidence he stole from work.

  • @sdlstr91
    @sdlstr91 4 года назад +3

    Glad you finally covered this! And I like the new closing tune, it's like you're starting a new chapter!

  • @blovett0814
    @blovett0814 2 года назад +6

    RIP Tim Sale. A legend who left his mark in comics. 🦇🏆

  • @winnerwatson1883
    @winnerwatson1883 4 года назад +1

    You have no idea how long I wanted you to cover this... Just brilliant. Well done exploration Matt.

  • @johnnieriot13
    @johnnieriot13 4 года назад +6

    Best channel on RUclips. Another epic dissection on a great piece of art

  • @AkiRie-bi3ek
    @AkiRie-bi3ek 4 года назад +2

    This videos are great. Every time I watch one, I
    immediately want to read (or re read) the comic. Love your work, man

  • @rhysmag6723
    @rhysmag6723 4 года назад +5

    The name The long Halloween I thought was a reference to how Gotham looks and feels like it is always in a long Halloween

  • @TheRealAmericanMan
    @TheRealAmericanMan 4 года назад +1

    What a great video, I loved all the RUclips cameos

  • @michaelcoffey1991
    @michaelcoffey1991 4 года назад +3

    As deep and interesting a take on this as any out there. Thanks so much for breaking down what you got from this classic master piece of what can be possible with a interesting take, a amazing artist and love for the genre.

  • @jasonlapidus1812
    @jasonlapidus1812 Месяц назад

    I really like your connection of the long defeat to The Long Halloween; it’s a great contextualization that adds to my reading experience. Thanks!

  • @chromesniper00
    @chromesniper00 2 года назад

    Love this comic already and this is one of my favorite video essay breakdowns of comics! You really elevated the book even more in my eyes and was able to articulate the meaning behind the story.

  • @hunterchamberlain6738
    @hunterchamberlain6738 4 года назад +8

    I've waited for this video for soooo long, Matt. This is one of my most favorite stories in all of literature, flaws and all. I'm super stoked that Matt Reeves is gonna be taking elements of this story to adapt to his film(s?). The wound is still raw from Batfleck leaving the project but I have faith in Reeves and Pattinson. Hopefully you covering this story means we will eventually get a Dark Victory follow up?

  • @SuperiorJohn
    @SuperiorJohn 3 года назад +1

    A perfect video synopsis of my favorite comic of all time. Great video.

  • @kylerpruitt1620
    @kylerpruitt1620 4 года назад

    Thank you for talking about one of my all time favorite comics, you are my favorite channel that talks about comics. Great video as always.

  • @matheuszache7943
    @matheuszache7943 4 года назад

    Matt, I swear, everything, JUST EVERYTHING in your analysis is a dream come true. I preached about The Long Halloween to many friends about almost evey single one of your points in this video: from the stylistic art highlighting the character traits (such as Batman's cape acting out as if its alive, Mad Hatter's clothes looking giant on him etc), the triple Holiday plot twist and the core of the arc: Gotham's turning point from a mob corrupt city to a mad house. I couldn't find no content producer to make such quality content about these topics until you did right now. Finally a Long Halloween video worth the novel's quality!

  • @pgaven9396
    @pgaven9396 4 года назад +3

    This was amazing. Thank you Matt for setting the mood for Halloween 2019 by revisiting this seminal DC graphic novel and its context within the Batman mythos. Happy early Halloween as well.

  • @Severian1
    @Severian1 4 года назад +8

    There are very few Batman stories like this. Such a great read.

  • @dakotaloven1362
    @dakotaloven1362 Год назад

    I love that you not only talk about the story itself but also it's importance to comics as a whole I mean this has to be top 3 greatest and most influential batman stories ever told

  • @Nealrex101
    @Nealrex101 4 года назад +2

    hey man, i just wanted to say you’ve quickly become my favourite video essayist on youtube since finding this video a couple days ago then going through so many of your videos

  • @RelativelyBest
    @RelativelyBest 2 года назад +4

    You know, the Long Defeat kinda describes the state of superhero franchises in general: The heroes can never be "finished", there will always be more villains to fight and usually it's the same villains over and over.

  • @Chandasouk
    @Chandasouk 4 года назад +1

    One of the first batman stories I've read. Not entirely sure it holds up under scrutiny but a classic none the less. Excellent video as always, Matt!

  • @pdzombie1906
    @pdzombie1906 2 года назад

    Great video!!! Ready to see the animated adaptation!!! Thanx!!!

  • @davidbettcher8843
    @davidbettcher8843 8 месяцев назад

    Good observation of the color pallets and the caricature-like villain designs.
    Also, I love the voice acting everyone did here.

  • @galactic85
    @galactic85 4 года назад

    It's been a few years since I read this. You made me want to pull it off my shelf and read it again. Thanks.

  • @detective___mcnulty
    @detective___mcnulty 3 года назад

    Thanks for all the hard work making these videos.

  • @dxrule18
    @dxrule18 4 года назад

    A really great video on my favourite Batman graphic novel! Fantastic work Matt@

  • @saracohle
    @saracohle 4 года назад +5

    My first ever comic. Blew my mind. I think I read and reread it over the entire weekend I got it.
    Tim Sale’s art just fucked me up. It was so confident and stylized. Nothing what I’d seen as the “standard comic house style”.
    I love this book.

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +1

      This was the first TPB I bought and it was definitely the book that solidified me as a comic fan. So I can see why it hooked you, too!

    • @saracohle
      @saracohle 4 года назад

      Matt Draper - I’m curious, what did you follow it up with?
      I was 12 at the time so I spent allllll of my allowance on Year One and Dark Victory ASAP because of this and BTAS.

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +1

      I immediately bought Dark Victory with my allowance money. I had loved watching BTAS and Long Halloween was a very easy transition from that. And then I'm not sure what was next. It just kinda kept going from there haha

    • @hellothere_24
      @hellothere_24 2 года назад

      When I saw the art style at first, I thought it looked dated and ridiculous but when I finally read it, I did it nonstop and was so immersed with the story and appreciated the beauty of Sale's art style.

  • @BenjiDWJ
    @BenjiDWJ 4 года назад +2

    An awesome video as per usual Matt 😁 like always I continue to both thoroughly & tremendously enjoy the way in which you go through and give a structured & well-balanced analysis of the writing & artists style of storytelling, the characters involved and their respective arcs, underlying morals, symbolism and themes.
    All of this while taking on the role of an absolutely stupendous narrator.

  • @BlackLaval
    @BlackLaval 4 года назад +1

    Such an awesome video. The Long Halloween -minus the epilogue, perhaps- is a true masterpiece.

  • @AHeroAlmost
    @AHeroAlmost 4 года назад

    This was so well put together 👏👏👏

  • @SnapperChannel
    @SnapperChannel 4 года назад +2

    Whether it be Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Superman For All Seasons or the Marvel color series, Loeb and Sale’s stories are among my favorites in comics. Great video.

  • @macj3970
    @macj3970 4 года назад +1

    I just finished The Long Halloween yesterday! What a weird coincidence, and keep up the good work!

  • @matthewledbetter7818
    @matthewledbetter7818 4 года назад +17

    You should do Batman: Ego by Darwyn Cooke!

  • @bubbastevegarcia2459
    @bubbastevegarcia2459 4 года назад

    Hell yeah! This video blew Up for some reason! You deserve it bro hopefully this will get you some more shine!!

  • @antona.8659
    @antona.8659 4 года назад +14

    I love this miniseries as much as any other Batman fan, but its fandom really likes to act like this was the first time a classic Noir detective story with various gangster movie inspirations was being used in a Batman comic. Before The Long Halloween, we had an entire ongoing series in Legends of the Dark Knight, where almost every story was in the style of The Long Halloween, or even more darker and more grounded. Still a great story that inspired a great Batman movie and will likely inspire another great Batman movie.

    • @lawrencelawrence8553
      @lawrencelawrence8553 4 года назад +3

      From the video itself, the big deal about The Long Halloween is the transition from Year One style of fighting mobsters and crime lords to supervillains and monsters while keeping the noir style that Batman fans love about him

  • @BasedToastnt
    @BasedToastnt Год назад +1

    This was such a fun read. The over exaggerated art style and designs are great. I love it when Gotham is very stylized much like The Dark Knight Returns. Although Year One is a masterpiece in my eyes Long Halloween is an intriguing mystery that will age beautifully. Phenomenal video. I'll be sure to check out more.

  • @gabrielgurule
    @gabrielgurule 3 года назад +1

    This is one of my favorite comics and one of my favorite your analysis’s. The reveal of three Holiday’s I think works so well because of its ambiguity. It reminds me of the noir “The Big Sleep,” in it a chauffeur is murdered and no one-author included-bothered to figure out who did it. It’s one of the things that just happens. The reveal at the end here, however, can almost be summarized as “Forget it, It’s Gotham.” It doesn’t matter if the audience finds out, because it’s implied that Calendar Man knew the details the entire time.

  • @thejurassicshow5928
    @thejurassicshow5928 4 года назад +2

    Hello Matt Draper. Your analysis of these great comics helps me appreciate them in ways I hadn’t original thought of.
    It would bring me so much joy if you covered Invincible

  • @PenDragon-hg1lg
    @PenDragon-hg1lg 4 года назад +2

    You know it's when you watch videos like this when you gain an even deeper appreciation for Nolan's trilogy when you really see just how well he interweaved so many classic stories into just three films

  • @dawwe8869
    @dawwe8869 4 года назад

    Good stuff as always!

  • @TheAyman1825
    @TheAyman1825 4 года назад

    holy shit the intro was so tense it gave me Goose bumps damn it Matt take it easy. anyway time to read the long Halloween again I guess. great video man

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад

      Thanks! Haha Gotta suck people into the video!

  • @DiegoReviews
    @DiegoReviews 4 года назад +3

    Those smokey background effects make this video so cinematic. Really clever using it for the smoke bomb fight scene! And holy cow I didn’t Josh had such a good Joker!

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +3

      I know, right?? Josh totally blew me away! And your Two-Face was awesome!!

    • @DiegoReviews
      @DiegoReviews 4 года назад +2

      You’re the best, Matt.

  • @johndavidtibbetts7320
    @johndavidtibbetts7320 Год назад

    This and your BOTW video contain my two favorite concluding paragraphs of any of your videos

  • @outpostalpha
    @outpostalpha 4 года назад

    Wow. This is an impressive video, both in its analysis and its presentation. Terrific job!

  • @yotamlevy1410
    @yotamlevy1410 4 года назад

    Terrific analysis, another great video Matt!

  • @mossadon
    @mossadon 4 года назад +18

    If ever there was a Batman story that deserved the HBO 'R' rated adult epic style series...
    It's The Long Halloween.
    .... And it would be awesome.
    One of THE best Batman stories ever put to paper and here Matt gives an excellent breakdown in which any Batfan or Normie can appreciate the scope and depth of this classic story.

  • @rustybuckets2143
    @rustybuckets2143 4 года назад +1

    THANK YOU! THIS IS MY FAVORITE BATMAN STORY!

  • @evandavid2816
    @evandavid2816 4 года назад +7

    Also, I really hope you don't mind, but I had a few humble suggestions for future videos below if that's OK:
    a) Discussions of some classic Pre-Crisis Batman yarns, especially those such as the late Len Wein's 'The Untold Legend of the Batman', Alan Brennert's 'The Autobiography of Bruce Wayne' and 'To Kill a Legend', and especially Steve Englehart and Marshall Rogers' definitive 'Strange Apparitions' run, none of which often seem to get the wider public attention that their sheer quality deserves, yes?
    b) Exploring how comics have dealt with the legacy of the Wild West over the years, with Marvel's sadly under-rated masterpiece 'Blaze of Glory' by John Ostrander and Leonardo Manco being a good place to start in my view, as it's quite simply one the best Westerns that I know of in any medium, yes?
    c) A comparison between Dan Slott and Mike Allred's Silver Surfer run and JMS' 'Silver Surfer: Requiem', and how both series deal with issues of love and loss through the beautifully tragic yet also uplifting prism of this lonely cosmic wanderer (also, speaking of lonely cosmic wanderers, would you be interested in doing a Doctor Who-related video at some point, please...?)
    d) Examining how seminal British comic 'Charley's War' by Pat Mills and Joe Colquhon dealt with the historical horrors of World War One and created an anti-war masterpiece in the process, yes?
    e) Evaluating the seismic impact of Grant Morrison and Howard Porter's re-vitalisation of the Justice League in the late '90s, with particular focus on how their first 'New World Order' storyline in issues 1-4 of JLA examined the possibilities - and limits - of heroism to reshape the world, yes?
    f) Kurt Busiek and George Perez's seminal JLA/Avengers series would be a great place to start in discussing both Marvel/DC and other comic-book crossovers in general to boot...oh, and finally, I know that you've mentioned an interest in possibly doing some Transformers-related stuff at some point, but is there any chance that you could cover everyone's favourite Freelance Peace-Keeping Agent, aka Death's Head, at some point in particular; perhaps as an example of a character whose own publishing history embodies our love of said crossovers, seeing as how it combines the worlds of Transformers, Doctor Who and the Marvel Universe (almost) smoothly together, yes?
    Best wishes, hope this helps, and sorry for taking up so much of your precious time, yes?
    (PS: For those who don't know the character of Death's Head, checking out scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/8455973.html and/or scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/8455755.html will give you at least some idea of why he is so beloved by myself and many other British comics fans of a certain age, yes...?).

  • @AngeloPetrino69
    @AngeloPetrino69 4 года назад

    Great comic and great video, as always :)

  • @brobert27
    @brobert27 4 года назад

    Thx again, Matt!

  • @thenerd3960
    @thenerd3960 4 года назад +3

    You just made me love this book and Gotham City and Batman more thank you

  • @thenationofdefecation7969
    @thenationofdefecation7969 2 года назад +2

    Am I insane for never reading comic books but really liking analysis videos on them?

  • @pierluigizappala1157
    @pierluigizappala1157 4 года назад +1

    great analisis as always, I gotta say that the confusing finale didn't convince me at first but grew on me over time, it's very charming in it's own way and I dont think that I would have it any other way.

  • @nefariousgremlin7554
    @nefariousgremlin7554 4 года назад +21

    Ah yes, one of my favorite comics, analyzed by Matt Draper. This is gonna be a good one.

  • @Protocol36
    @Protocol36 4 года назад

    Fantastic video!

  • @FancyGeeks
    @FancyGeeks 4 года назад

    Great video! I love this story and you did a fantastic job with it.

  • @RadinV1
    @RadinV1 4 года назад +167

    It wasn't a defeat...
    It was a victory...
    A DARK VICTORY
    (Sorry that was awful)

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +25

      Naw that’s the other story

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 4 года назад +13

      Did the good guy win? Yes they did... but was it worth the cost?

  • @deriksandoval5263
    @deriksandoval5263 4 года назад +3

    That “It Follows” theme is great

  • @x.gotham.x
    @x.gotham.x 4 года назад +58

    imagine being a vigilante who took down big gangsters just to create psychopaths and sociopathic some powered villains :)))

    • @lyonsmaneproductions3431
      @lyonsmaneproductions3431 4 года назад +12

      Right? If Gotham was nyc you'd just see bats be like "WHAT?! OH WHATTA GIGANTIC PAIN IN MY ASS, YOU RIDICULOUS MOOKS!"

    • @dustinakadustin
      @dustinakadustin 3 года назад +12

      Well Batman didn't create them, he only really created the joker but not on purpose.

    • @Aeluron
      @Aeluron 3 года назад +1

      Necessary for world building. I don't believe that it can't be saved, just a cynical world view.

    • @hellothere_24
      @hellothere_24 2 года назад +1

      Gotham is destined to be cursed forever

  • @noxidninja5109
    @noxidninja5109 4 года назад +1

    I love all the cameos of other comic book RUclipsrs for the quotes

  • @DocD173
    @DocD173 2 года назад +1

    This book sparked my lifelong interest in comics and graphic novels when I was 12. Still my favorite Batman story of all time.

  • @YouCallThataKnife253
    @YouCallThataKnife253 4 года назад

    Ahhhh, it's been so long. How refreshing

  • @chikish
    @chikish 4 года назад +1

    I miss pre-Ultimatum Jeph Loeb, pretty much everything he and Tim Sale created was gold. I completely agree with you about the revelation, I could never buy into Dent's wife being one of the killers, but that didn't stop me from loving The Long Halloween. Excellent video as always and a special shout-out to everyone who did voice work here!

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад

      Thanks! Yeah that’s the one sticking point for me with the story, but it’s still a classic. Loeb and Sale has an incredible run. I miss it.

  • @huxleyable
    @huxleyable 3 года назад +5

    Ah yes, this story is absolutely incredible...and yet, the one thing I remember the most about it is HOW ABSOLUTELY HUGE CATWOMAN IS!
    Holy shit, Selina Kyle was hitting the gym like an animal back in those days, huh?
    I have a figure of the long Halloween Catwoman, who has by now tragically lost an arm.