*Chapters* 00:00 Is It a 7-Seater? 03:35 Design & Size 05:50 Kia Carens vs Alcazar 07:41 Cabin & Interiors 14:00 Captain's Seats 17:00 Third Row Seats 19:53 Seat Features & Adjustments 21:00 Boot Space 22:08 Bench vs Captain Seats 24:15 The Diesel 26:18 Plastic Tailgate 28:47 Driving the Alcazar 30:26 Innova's The Sole MPV 31:49 Driving, Continued 35:00 Driving Aids & Infotainment 35:57 Crash Test Ratings 37:03 Carens or Alcazar 37:58 Creta or Alcazar 38:30 Alcazar or Verna 39:22 Quick Summary 44:53 Tyre Repair Kit 46:54 Closing Comments *Explore MotorInc memberships* at youtube.com/@motorinc/join
Guys, please explain the roof rack laws you spoke about at 21:30. I have been contemplating a C3 Aircross and it could be a good choice if one can use a roof rack.
22:30 it doesn't...!!! Target customer is very limited... People who are tired to see the creta as it's literally everywhere... Additionally 3rd row for occasional use. That's it!!!
12:47 about the picnic trays: I own the old Alcazar and I use the picnic trays to stand my iPad on it and watch videos and stuff while it's not my turn to drive... Pretty useful for that purpose once you try it. However, it is indeed too bulky, especially in the 1st Gen Alcazar, and definitely eats into rear seat space! Honestly we bought this car for just 3 of us to travel comfortably on long distances so the rear seats are in their rear most position and we still have a lot of legroom so it doesn't really bother us!
Teambhp and a lot of websites state that Carens is based on the K1 platform (i10) and that is the reason for the MPV shape and more affordable price. While Alcazar is based on K2(Creta/Seltos). Would be great if you guys can ask the brands and share what's the truth. Great video!
Hey A! We have tried in the past. No clear answer. Hence, we rely on our judgement. Even if the platforms are different - the proportions are different - with differing outcomes.
Yeah, even Faizal said this in his review IIRC, that's one of the reasons I looked down on it and never recommended one despite a good experience from my TD.
I think the Alcazar is placed perfecly. It is a segment of its own. 7 seater, practical, understaded. Everyone whon is not looking for a SUV but 7 seater. More of a Estate territory. my society has more Alcazars than scorpio, xuv700 combined. it is a non MPV, non asking for the attention SUV, with almost all the practicalities and none of the show factor. Perfect.
Absolutely... It is a comfortable vehicle for a family of 3 adults and 2 kids... But yea... There is no price difference between Petrol VS Diesel... Guess Hyundai can cut the price of petrol by 1.5L
Due to space restrictions on my garage( which is 4600mm length) I was confused between Carens and Alcazar. But selected Alcazar because of 1. Need to have a SUV 2. Seats of Alcazar felt more comfortable than Carens 3. My family of 6 members and all are well below 5.5 ft so all sit 🪑 well comfortable 4. Alcazar fited with 360 degree camera which will be very helpful for my family members including my wife to drive 5. Signature (Top model) fitted with ADAS, which may come handy in future Indian road 6. New look Dashboard and infotainment system, feels much better than Carens 7. Carens largely now in use as Taxi, so not need a car of such tag
I was coming back from the airport in an Alcazar and I was sitting on the second row. I missed the first half of a Formula One match, so I was watching the second half on my iPad while travelling. I had placed the iPad on the picnic tray, yes, it was super convenient for me then. That was the only time when I used it in the three years of my family owning that vehicle.
My personal experience. I mailed Hyundai customer service for a longer test drive of about 50kms. They called me back after a day, took my details and next day dealer called me and offered me a longer test drive with a Petrol Manual Creta just as I requested. We did 60kms. No money was charged. I was genuinely happy and impressed. Ask for the things you want guys. Other brands should copy this. I would pay for this service to be honest.
I have the Alcazar 1.5 diesel, have been in the Carens as well. Test drove the xuv and harrier as well as rivals. It was quite a simple pick for me actually. XUV had reliability issues during the test drive itself, and as was the case with the harrier, its just too big to drive in the city which was my general daily usage. The top end models of both the harrier and xuv was over budget. They have done a good job marketing the lower price varients. Once you go to the showroom you are most likely going for the top end, which is more pricey than a top end alcazar. And I think many features have been written off as showey or unnecessary. 360 degree camera, tyre pressure monitoring system, ventilated seats and blind spot camera are a godsend on any car. You have to see it in action to believe it. And none of these were available in the creta. Coming to the carens, the biggest plus point was cost. But the interiors and general quality of the interiors were quite poor. Never bought the Alcazar not saw it as a 7 seater. Always had the last seats folded down. So what you actually get is a more well equipped, safer and bigger booted creta for a few lakhs more. CretaS/SE++ if u will.
Simple and on point. So I'll try to do the same with my comment. Great work altogether, summary rating: 9/10 - you missed the plastic tailgate, looking forward to the next one!
@@AnirudhMaira Wow, I thought it's just improbable to get them installed. Can you share a picture if you don't mind? Coz That's something important for my needs and Want to see if That makes me not buy the Signature version 😅
@@kshitijpandey6514 I have Ertiga and trust me we can only use those last 2 seats(for Kids) when we need to travel within the city for small distance … no space for luggage for out of city travel.
I am sure not the first one to say - Both of you deliver the details, insights and every bit so calmly with subtle hits to sarcasm, witty smiles. Love to spend 45-50 min everytime there is a new video.. Someone commented below about Coldplay, I would say similar but Diljit concert.. :) Keep up the great work !!
@@Adwatism Exactly. If people were actually ready to pay for an expensive hatchback, then we'd probably have the hatchback civic, global Swift, Polo etc on sale in India.
@@Adwatism people who understand that the n division of Hyundai was led by Albert beirmann tye legendary chassis engineer behind almost all bmws uptill the f90 m5 Those people who value driving engagement over stupid gimmicks will happily pay 25 lakhs rs or even more for thaat nurburring tuned chassis and Albert beirmanns chassis expertise
@@atharvaatre3273how many people would that be? 50? 100? It doesn't happen because it's an incredibly niche market, so much so it's just not worth it for most car manufacturers.
13:00 The Innova Hycross does the cup holders much more intuitively, They are on a panel that you can fold up between the captain seats. Locks into place, closer to your reach, and holds weight really good.
Its always amazing to watch and listen to how in detail kartik studies any vehicle, discussing every small detail.. AND shumi- i dont know how you do perfect summery everytime without missing any point..! Brilliant!!
24:37 Absolutely agree. Sunroofs has got to be the worst thing to happen to the car market this decade, and there are a lot of bad things that have happened to the market,
Sir .. beautiful video...i am confused between hycross gx(o) 8seater - alcazar 2024 petrol signature 7seater top end - thaar roxx petrol 2wd petrol ax7 top end...whch is ur suggestion...all my family member height is max 5 ft 4 inches
@@motorinc let me give some context, recently Autocar India had completed 25 years and in their 25th year edition magazine all current and few past employees have shared their experience. I thought Kartikeya was part of Autocar India in past, so there must be his experience also mentioned in the magazine. Thats asked.
I’m using the Carens Prestige manual, it has black cloth seats and the roominess is same as top model. Oh yes, the comfort of the Carens do trump Alcazar everyday. Can the Alcazar captain seat be swapped with Carens driver seat as the driver seat of Carens does not have enough underthigh support is very less?
5 on 5 for the quick summary Shumi. Sunday's always chilled out with #MotorIncFirst episodes. Kudos to Hyundai and Kia though for whatever they are coming out with. They have definitely upped the quality and sophistication game in the Indian Car market. People look out for small things now.
Lovely episode again. Always look forward for your videos all week. Just a breezy conversation, almost feels like therapy to listen to :) But, Might have to disagree on the seating as I'm 5'8 and there was no way I could even sit for more than short rides of 10 - 15 minutes if the middle row is set to me conservative space to the first row.
Sir .. beautiful video...i am confused between hycross gx(o) 8seater - alcazar 2024 petrol signature 7seater top end - thaar roxx petrol 2wd petrol ax7 top end...whch is ur suggestion...all my family member height is max 5 ft 4 inches and lesser..i prefer 7 seater and thaar roxx is added only due to that child hood Passion..alcazar gives all features which i luv...hycross is super spavious n best ride quality than alcazar i think...plz advice..also does Toyota dealership provides after sale drl fitment in Hycross gx o
What about ride comfort compared to Honda Elevate and Suzuki Grand Vitara (you guys were praising the suspension tuning on these two)? And also with Kia Carens?
Oh the Rayta hill stretch is super amazing!! I went to that road on suggestion by a good friend, took my new at that time i20 Nline and had a super fun day !
That Zen Estilo comment was a personal attack 😂😂!! We had one from 2013 Jan for about 11-12 years, ran just 40k km. Loved it to bits despite the shortcomings. It had power mirrors, rear defogger, rear wiper, fog lamps, power windows, and we got it mew for about 4.10 lakhs after some solid discount. This was the facelifted estilo. It was lying nearly unused for 4-5 years after which we had to sell it. For all its obvious shortcomings, I somehow liked it. A small trivia, the Zen Estilo review in Autocar RUclips channel was the first time I saw Karthikeya review cars, and have been a follower since. (Sadly didnt watch the review before the purchase 😅😅) P.S. given we've sold it, can I remain subbed? 😂😂
Yes, you are right innova is proper MPV which has massuve success in our country. I respect that car, but the only alternative it had was lately launched Marazzo. These both are great for our indians roads, marazzo could have eaten up the sales of crysta but rhe brand name and engine option made it dead. Anyway i am happy with my Marazzo 😊
Hi I am a college student. I am starting my two wheeler journey and need something for weekend rides and my daily home to college commutes. Should I consider a pulsar n250? Or any other choices you guys would suggest :>
What is hyundai doing. They have not given diesel variant to any automobile journalist for reviewing. Not a single video of diesel variant is available on RUclips
Could you guys do a video on the MG Hector? Cuz you guys did on harrier, Compass,Creta,Seltos and the MG Hector/Hector Plus is the only one left from this group ... Ik it's not what most people want but it's just a suggestion
I'm thinking of booking one. We are a family of 4 adults. We live in rural area and travel a lot on the highway with loads of luggage. So I felt prestige diesel MT variant is a good fit. The way I look it is, it is fuel efficient, feature rich and comfortable. Hoping this chat will comment better alternatives if there are any ❤
I have 3 questions, 2 of them I'm posting here - 1. In context to new swift, new creta, and now alcazar, when can be a car called new model instead of facelift? 2. What exactly do you mean by platform and platform sharing and how it's different from rebadging?
Does the size of the car like Carens, xuv 700, Scorpio N and the it’s body movements on long trip can cause uneasiness & nausea to back seat (middle and 3rd row)? My family never complained of these issues in my last hatchback while they are doing it for the Carens.
@@motorinc Hi! Yes the car is for him, I’ll only drive it once or twice a month on long trips.My father is a bit hesitant about carens manuvering , but its hard to let go carens interiors also its cheaper than creta e. We have swift dzire 2014 right now.
I am driving Honda city from past 7 years and extremely satisfied because of low maintenance and effortless drive. Plz suggest me should I upgrade to xuv 700 or Alcazar keeping the same experience what I am having with city.
Really interesting format of review, initially I wasn’t very forthcoming but I saw the entire video and felt happy about the genuine comparison and transparency which has made me like the video. I wish if you could add on to videos and convert them into playlist by trying the other model - manual petrol bench seats etc; which will enhance the review and make it very comprehensive- will definitely make me like the video and channel more
Thanks for the suggestion and the feedback @ackeeshjames, these aren't out full reviews on the products. Just first drive impressions, once we get the vehicle from the manufacturers again we'll be covering it in a separate video.
Hello Sir, I have question. I would love to talk to you about my issue with the Valksvagen delivery. And would also love to help your viewer with the way I have been cheated by Valkswagen.
Is it by choice that Kartik and Shumi are wearing a brown top/pants and sitting on a black couch representating Alcazar interiors? I just love the aesthetics of Motorinc videos! Its like everytime it sets a color tone in my brain at the start of the video and keeps it steady througout ❤
recently went to Hyundai showroom just week before launch..Old Alcazar was not even in the list to check... Sales Guy was telling new Alcazar is coming check that, will now check this out too.. that day checked out Verna SX (NA) and Create SX Tech.. the one thing that stuck both to me & wife was Verna felt better in sense of space inside sitting..felt more luxurious and better built.. the boot of Creta I felt its small for the car of that size.. may be checking Harrier and XUV700(5 seat) earlier didn't helped Creta but still.. need as of now is a 5 seater car but that should fit in lots of stuff so a bigger boot for sure is required...research to upgrade has been on going since March, not in rush to buy and when i sit down comparing & putting check boxes on cars what they offer its the sedans (Verna / City / Slavia) that i feel better suitable.. even wife who always thought higher seating position as better now also says sedans are feeling better to her for back seat comfort..
@@motorincfinally went for Verna Test Drive yesterday.. the budget plan is for NA variant but they had the Turbo available only..so just decided to agreed have the first experience.. Liked the light colored interior of NA, the feeling of space all was good.. But the steering.. It just feels extra weight less..compared to my current car or even the 5th Gen City I drove of my friend's.. Not sure if this is what something in steering I'll start liking over time .. . Back in 2014 first car was a Grand i10 and back then that was the only one I had tasted
@@motorinc where did the comment go .. Here it's again long story short.. Test drove the Verna Turbo as that was the only one available there.. Since the day I checked out Verna I liked the light interiors of NA.. Drive was OK except for one thing and that was the steering wheel and it's feelin..have driven recenly Friend's 5th gen Honda City and the steering felt just the right.. Currently driving a Ford so there's that.. Owned a Grand i10 2014-17 and I remember the steering on Verna matches the one on grand i10.. Back then grand i10 was the only car I had driven so I thought steerings are like that only.. But now I am not sure if the extra lightness of Verna I'll start liking that if I get a Verna
21:30 Need an entire video on roof racks. I own a Skoda Kushaq and the roof rails allow a few attachments. However, I have no clue about the regulations or the accessories and their feasibility.
Hey Karthik, I work for Away India manufacturing Roofbox and they are completely legal in India as per RTI , not sure about roof rack though! Love motorinc videos btw!
Hey Nayan! Would really appreciate it if you could link us to any docs or sites where we could get clarity on this. Thanks! And great to connect with you. Will check em out.
Hey great review. I am in the market for a change. Been driving an XL6 for past 3 years. Like the Alcazar as it fits my current budget and is not as common as Creta and has tons of features. I have a hard time thinking replacement as I am pretty happy with XL6 - great space and mileage. Is Alcazar for me?
@ Outdated tech and design. Safety concerns. After 3 years the wheels need regular balancing/alignment, Maruti service folks never seem to get it right. Would have looked at EV9 but I think electric still have some time to go. So another Petrol for next 4-5 years before shifting to EV.
I still think spare wheels are a necessity in India no matter how much the roads "improve". I had mentioned this incident on another MotorInc video and I think I must bring it up again... Back in 2022 in Goa I was returning home around midnight. I was driving an XUV on one of the new concrete roads that had just opened up in Siridão-Bambolim. I was suddenly in a situation where the vehicle lost control, veered towards the island and was brought to a halt on the fast lane of the highway. I stepped out to see that the driver's side ORVM was broken but the rest of the vehicle was perfect, until I noticed that both the tyres on the driver's side were completely flat. While waiting for RSA and family members to reach the accident spot I traced my path back along the same highway and say a rod sticking out of an expansion joint about 200-300 meters away from where the XUV came to a halt. I understand that a single spare wheel wouldn't make any difference in such a scenario but in case of a single flat tyre it can be helpful to reach somewhere safely. However, if our roads are made hastily without thorough tests or finesse then it's pointless trying to adapt to these so called 'standards' and hence be prepared for the worst no matter what. It's a similar situation with automatic scooters losing the kick-starter when batteries or electrical & electronic systems by the manufacturers aren't that reliable.
Disappointed that at 5:25 ,harrier and safari name didn't come up... Not a tata fanboy but having seen all 3 of the cars,safari is the best SUV if we r talking about highway rides and long 800 900 km rides ..I think it comes just next to innova crysta in terms of comfort and way ahead of XUV 700 and overhyped Scorpio N..
Even 2 wheelers I see when they are on long commute watch movies on their phones mounted on their bikes. Same with Rickshaws and 4 wheelers. Split screen with Google maps and RUclips on the other.
As Shumi puts it, Darwins theory will eventually have its way. 😂 Jokes aside, watching movies on a two wheeler is something that should lead to anywhere between suspension of license to some jailtime.
Hey BM! We had one of the viewers comment - he works for a company that makes rooftop boxes - they made an RTI and turns out there’s no limitation. We have asked him for links.
Do you think that having a 5 seater version of this with 2nd row set a slightly farther back and get a car much suited to chauffeur driven buyers. With immense boot. Massager recliner backseats could be an option as well, I guess this would be a better utilisation of the extended wheelbase than making seats for children which you don't like.
Good video n overall feedback of this car. They say the Roof rails r functional. For Diesel, Yes. But Would it be functional for Petrol variant also which has sunroof? What would be the actual mileage in CITY traffic for Petrol considering the petrol is same as creta with some added power, not sure if it will go beyond 8km/l similar to creta petrol AT. If I add spare tyre in Diesel, how much would be the mileage for Diesel variant? With added weight, can we say it could have more strength (imagining approx 3.5 ncap )😊
Correct me if I am wrong I believe the pre-facelift Alcazar never came with the 1.4 GDI it was launched with the new 1.5 GDI after the 2.0 . The 1.5 GDI came in with the Alcazar and the interim updated seltos .
Common man you mean Pune or Mumbai don't have car cafes, coz Delhi NCR has which don't offer you the sitting, but then they can offer you parking somewhere in that vicinity and the server from the cafe would serve you in your car, so now you the reason why you need picnic seats, honestly, I love it.
I just realised, if instead of a Conference table, add a coffee table to the podcast, and this will become the Ideology of "This connect" and the commercialism of MI "First".. Me doing the Schumi camera Side look smile...
My worry is, my PDI date is way 2-3 month earlier than my car book date. I am not sure how it is impactful. I feel like cheated. I don't know what action I can take against the dealership. Please guide me
*Chapters*
00:00 Is It a 7-Seater?
03:35 Design & Size
05:50 Kia Carens vs Alcazar
07:41 Cabin & Interiors
14:00 Captain's Seats
17:00 Third Row Seats
19:53 Seat Features & Adjustments
21:00 Boot Space
22:08 Bench vs Captain Seats
24:15 The Diesel
26:18 Plastic Tailgate
28:47 Driving the Alcazar
30:26 Innova's The Sole MPV
31:49 Driving, Continued
35:00 Driving Aids & Infotainment
35:57 Crash Test Ratings
37:03 Carens or Alcazar
37:58 Creta or Alcazar
38:30 Alcazar or Verna
39:22 Quick Summary
44:53 Tyre Repair Kit
46:54 Closing Comments
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Guys, please explain the roof rack laws you spoke about at 21:30. I have been contemplating a C3 Aircross and it could be a good choice if one can use a roof rack.
22:30 it doesn't...!!! Target customer is very limited... People who are tired to see the creta as it's literally everywhere... Additionally 3rd row for occasional use. That's it!!!
12:47 about the picnic trays: I own the old Alcazar and I use the picnic trays to stand my iPad on it and watch videos and stuff while it's not my turn to drive... Pretty useful for that purpose once you try it. However, it is indeed too bulky, especially in the 1st Gen Alcazar, and definitely eats into rear seat space! Honestly we bought this car for just 3 of us to travel comfortably on long distances so the rear seats are in their rear most position and we still have a lot of legroom so it doesn't really bother us!
Heya H! Thanks for sharing! Glad to hear about your usage too!
Teambhp and a lot of websites state that Carens is based on the K1 platform (i10) and that is the reason for the MPV shape and more affordable price. While Alcazar is based on K2(Creta/Seltos). Would be great if you guys can ask the brands and share what's the truth. Great video!
Hey A! We have tried in the past. No clear answer. Hence, we rely on our judgement. Even if the platforms are different - the proportions are different - with differing outcomes.
Yeah, even Faizal said this in his review IIRC, that's one of the reasons I looked down on it and never recommended one despite a good experience from my TD.
Why are very few View Episodes are coming?
@@akilanindiawho’s Faisal?
@@ontheroad8149 Faisal Khan
The wait for Motorinc episodes is worse than the queue for Coldplay tickets
Dude. That cut deep. 😄
True!
The name always reminds me of General Alcazar from TinTin 😂😂
Hahaha!!
Opportunity for Hyundai to call the N-line version of this - "The Red Rackham"
Same thoughts
Its a lot better than Creta Grand I can tell you that.
Yeah lol,so many colonels in his army
I think the Alcazar is placed perfecly. It is a segment of its own. 7 seater, practical, understaded. Everyone whon is not looking for a SUV but 7 seater. More of a Estate territory. my society has more Alcazars than scorpio, xuv700 combined. it is a non MPV, non asking for the attention SUV, with almost all the practicalities and none of the show factor. Perfect.
Hey TCS! Super! Glad to know it works for you. 👍🏽
Absolutely... It is a comfortable vehicle for a family of 3 adults and 2 kids...
But yea... There is no price difference between Petrol VS Diesel...
Guess Hyundai can cut the price of petrol by 1.5L
@@user-ze3to6xt9qprice difference is for sunroof. They dont provide sunroof in diesel which is why petrol and diesel both cost same
Due to space restrictions on my garage( which is 4600mm length) I was confused between Carens and Alcazar.
But selected Alcazar because of
1. Need to have a SUV
2. Seats of Alcazar felt more comfortable than Carens
3. My family of 6 members and all are well below 5.5 ft so all sit 🪑 well comfortable
4. Alcazar fited with 360 degree camera which will be very helpful for my family members including my wife to drive
5. Signature (Top model) fitted with ADAS, which may come handy in future Indian road
6. New look Dashboard and infotainment system, feels much better than Carens
7. Carens largely now in use as Taxi, so not need a car of such tag
Thanks for sharing @padmanabha24! Congratulations, we wish you an awesome time with the Alcazar!
Very true. With captain seats version, if all three row drivers and passengers adjusts, 5'6 persons can easily sit in there!
I had the same problem so I had to go with the creta top end..
@@subhrajitmohapatra2080 there is hardly 1L difference between Creta top and Alcazar.. so u can consider Alcazar if space of ur garage allow you
@@padmanabha24 nopes bro.. creta fits very tightly... Else I would have definitely had got the alcazar
I was coming back from the airport in an Alcazar and I was sitting on the second row. I missed the first half of a Formula One match, so I was watching the second half on my iPad while travelling. I had placed the iPad on the picnic tray, yes, it was super convenient for me then. That was the only time when I used it in the three years of my family owning that vehicle.
Thanks for sharing @rhitamdutta1996
My personal experience. I mailed Hyundai customer service for a longer test drive of about 50kms. They called me back after a day, took my details and next day dealer called me and offered me a longer test drive with a Petrol Manual Creta just as I requested. We did 60kms. No money was charged. I was genuinely happy and impressed. Ask for the things you want guys. Other brands should copy this. I would pay for this service to be honest.
That sounds great on Hyundai's part @054_SusmitGupta. What'd you think of the test drive?
I have the Alcazar 1.5 diesel, have been in the Carens as well. Test drove the xuv and harrier as well as rivals. It was quite a simple pick for me actually. XUV had reliability issues during the test drive itself, and as was the case with the harrier, its just too big to drive in the city which was my general daily usage. The top end models of both the harrier and xuv was over budget. They have done a good job marketing the lower price varients. Once you go to the showroom you are most likely going for the top end, which is more pricey than a top end alcazar. And I think many features have been written off as showey or unnecessary. 360 degree camera, tyre pressure monitoring system, ventilated seats and blind spot camera are a godsend on any car. You have to see it in action to believe it. And none of these were available in the creta. Coming to the carens, the biggest plus point was cost. But the interiors and general quality of the interiors were quite poor. Never bought the Alcazar not saw it as a 7 seater. Always had the last seats folded down. So what you actually get is a more well equipped, safer and bigger booted creta for a few lakhs more. CretaS/SE++ if u will.
Simple and on point. So I'll try to do the same with my comment. Great work altogether, summary rating: 9/10 - you missed the plastic tailgate, looking forward to the next one!
Hullo Deepak! Thanks!
Shumi at 22:05 is so amused with himself that Kartikeya actually even answered that absolutely lunatic of a question. What fun is being had!
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12:33 I have a third party one installed. Its pretty useful on road trips as it accomodates a lot of stuff we carry for my one year old.
Heya AM! Good to know.
@@AnirudhMaira Wow, I thought it's just improbable to get them installed. Can you share a picture if you don't mind? Coz That's something important for my needs and Want to see if That makes me not buy the Signature version 😅
In terms of looks which one have upperhand xuv or alcazar in your opinion?
30:51 which is the mpv using sedan platform? I think ertiga uses swifts/ dzires platform... Other than that??
We think of the Carens as a wannabe sedan.
@@motorincit’s a sedan MPV cross! Which sounds strangely interesting and effective.
I had purple zen estilo😂
Learned driving in estilo so its always special❤
Alrighty! Thanks for sharing S! Stay subbed okay. ❤️
@@motorinc 😅
The Only Seven Seater car in Indian market is Carnival.. everything else is just gimmick 😃
Ertiga says hi
Let’s see what the new one is like!
@@motorinc how does XL6 stands in comparison?
Have you seen the size of that? That is a full fledged luxury van. It might have the 7 seats, but it isn't made for daily or highway commutes.
@@kshitijpandey6514 I have Ertiga and trust me we can only use those last 2 seats(for Kids) when we need to travel within the city for small distance … no space for luggage for out of city travel.
Thanks. Very informative. Keep up the great work. One question. This DCT, is it wet or dry?
Alcazaar also have downhill descent control & auto rain sensing wipers that creta doesn't have
Thanks SD!
Wow
Has it got a non captain seat version?
Yes. It does.
@@motorincCould you guys do a short video on that arrangement as well?
I am sure not the first one to say - Both of you deliver the details, insights and every bit so calmly with subtle hits to sarcasm, witty smiles. Love to spend 45-50 min everytime there is a new video.. Someone commented below about Coldplay, I would say similar but Diljit concert.. :)
Keep up the great work !!
Thank you for the kind words @thepuneetarora, we'll pass them on to the entire team.
guys can we please ask Hyundai to bring the full fat i20n to india
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Lmao who will buy the 25 lakh rupees Hatchback in India 😂
@@Adwatism Exactly. If people were actually ready to pay for an expensive hatchback, then we'd probably have the hatchback civic, global Swift, Polo etc on sale in India.
@@Adwatism people who understand that the n division of Hyundai was led by Albert beirmann tye legendary chassis engineer behind almost all bmws uptill the f90 m5
Those people who value driving engagement over stupid gimmicks will happily pay 25 lakhs rs or even more for thaat nurburring tuned chassis and Albert beirmanns chassis expertise
@@atharvaatre3273how many people would that be? 50? 100? It doesn't happen because it's an incredibly niche market, so much so it's just not worth it for most car manufacturers.
13:00
The Innova Hycross does the cup holders much more intuitively, They are on a panel that you can fold up between the captain seats. Locks into place, closer to your reach, and holds weight really good.
Works, right!?
27:08 orange and red thumbnail video! Couldn't find it on RUclips 🥺
Okay! Thanks for the heads up.
What is your view about 6 and 7-seaters? Please advise, sir.
at 45:00 Kartikeya mentions Carens without Spare wheel get repair kit.. was it Cars without spare wheel or he said Carens actually ?
Cars without spare wheel. 😆
@@motorinc time to get ears checked
how does the MG Hector fare against the Alcazar or even the Thar Roxx, the xuv700?
Its always amazing to watch and listen to how in detail kartik studies any vehicle, discussing every small detail.. AND shumi- i dont know how you do perfect summery everytime without missing any point..! Brilliant!!
Thank you for joining us @omkarmit
Will you do a first impression or short on rr310
Noted! Thanks for the suggestion!!
24:37
Absolutely agree.
Sunroofs has got to be the worst thing to happen to the car market this decade, and there are a lot of bad things that have happened to the market,
Sir .. beautiful video...i am confused between hycross gx(o) 8seater - alcazar 2024 petrol signature 7seater top end - thaar roxx petrol 2wd petrol ax7 top end...whch is ur suggestion...all my family member height is max 5 ft 4 inches
For the first few mins the "ok" from Shumi reminded me of Ranveer from TRS😅😅
and how could K not laught at "Somersault to the back seat"😂😂
Practise!
@@motorinc achhaa😅
The sound insulation (or the lack of it) could be because of weight saving they had to do?
Surely we’re left with less room. Let’s see how Kia manage with the Carens update.
Hi Kartikeya, no interview of yours or your experience at autocar in Autocar India 25th year anniversary edition ?
Any reason ??
Heya RP, what’s this about?
@@motorinc let me give some context, recently Autocar India had completed 25 years and in their 25th year edition magazine all current and few past employees have shared their experience. I thought Kartikeya was part of Autocar India in past, so there must be his experience also mentioned in the magazine.
Thats asked.
39:27 million dollar question 😅
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Sorry..what it means 😢
Why? Typical Creta driver behavior?
I’m using the Carens Prestige manual, it has black cloth seats and the roominess is same as top model. Oh yes, the comfort of the Carens do trump Alcazar everyday.
Can the Alcazar captain seat be swapped with Carens driver seat as the driver seat of Carens does not have enough underthigh support is very less?
Thanks B! Glad to get your first hand insight!
5 on 5 for the quick summary Shumi. Sunday's always chilled out with #MotorIncFirst episodes. Kudos to Hyundai and Kia though for whatever they are coming out with. They have definitely upped the quality and sophistication game in the Indian Car market. People look out for small things now.
Lovely episode again. Always look forward for your videos all week. Just a breezy conversation, almost feels like therapy to listen to :)
But, Might have to disagree on the seating as I'm 5'8 and there was no way I could even sit for more than short rides of 10 - 15 minutes if the middle row is set to me conservative space to the first row.
Thanks for sharing @sricharanboddupalli9418
Sir .. beautiful video...i am confused between hycross gx(o) 8seater - alcazar 2024 petrol signature 7seater top end - thaar roxx petrol 2wd petrol ax7 top end...whch is ur suggestion...all my family member height is max 5 ft 4 inches and lesser..i prefer 7 seater and thaar roxx is added only due to that child hood Passion..alcazar gives all features which i luv...hycross is super spavious n best ride quality than alcazar i think...plz advice..also does Toyota dealership provides after sale drl fitment in Hycross gx o
Hey kartikeya can i20n handle the stage 2 remapping?.
I mean the body.
Nice summary shumi.. Do you rehearse this before hand or is it all in one go?
It’s reflex!
I think it would help if you advise your viewers to view at 1.25 / 1.5 speed, I think they will save time without loosing any information.
Thanks for helping out!
whoever designed the intro tune banging stuff boss! always has me hyped for motorinc adventure ♥
Hello!!
Will you do first impression or like a short for rr 310 ?
Is Inova Hycross an MPV as well?
Yes, Kartikeya means both Innovas @siddharthdg
What about ride comfort compared to Honda Elevate and Suzuki Grand Vitara (you guys were praising the suspension tuning on these two)? And also with Kia Carens?
Three times! 🤯
@@motorinc 3 times better in the Alcazar?
Oh the Rayta hill stretch is super amazing!! I went to that road on suggestion by a good friend, took my new at that time i20 Nline and had a super fun day !
That Zen Estilo comment was a personal attack 😂😂!!
We had one from 2013 Jan for about 11-12 years, ran just 40k km. Loved it to bits despite the shortcomings. It had power mirrors, rear defogger, rear wiper, fog lamps, power windows, and we got it mew for about 4.10 lakhs after some solid discount. This was the facelifted estilo. It was lying nearly unused for 4-5 years after which we had to sell it. For all its obvious shortcomings, I somehow liked it.
A small trivia, the Zen Estilo review in Autocar RUclips channel was the first time I saw Karthikeya review cars, and have been a follower since. (Sadly didnt watch the review before the purchase 😅😅)
P.S. given we've sold it, can I remain subbed? 😂😂
Bwahahahahhaa! You’ve earned it! Thanks for the laugh!
Karthik's T shirt? Where does he get this from? Could you please share the details?
Myntra
@@Swagat_kP I meant the brand of the T Shirt. Not the platform. Thanks.
@@dudefromcbee no idea bro, you have to dm him. Anyway I don't have much liking for Oversized T-shirt. Just said Myntra for fun 😂
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This is by far the best motor review channel.
Why your subscribers are not increasing in the proportion is beyond me.
It’s all good AR! Thanks for being here with us!
But Carens is based on extended Grand i10 platform and not the Creta.
Please correct me if I’m wrong
Any links to that? Would be good to cross check…
Are we gonna get The Jawa 42 fj and Speed t4 at motorinc first??
T4 in the works, Ankur, FJ - no test bike yet
@@motorinc thanks looking forward to it
real mpv Innova... which model .i hope you are refering crysta
Why isn't the Hycross an MPV @BellyToGilly? 🤔
Crysta still appeals to me more than Hycross
When you say Innova is the only MPV ? can we also consider Marazzo as MPV ? Am aware it’s not on sale, but am curious
Marazzo was the one other MPV. It was super. Sadly - discontinued.
Yes, you are right innova is proper MPV which has massuve success in our country. I respect that car, but the only alternative it had was lately launched Marazzo. These both are great for our indians roads, marazzo could have eaten up the sales of crysta but rhe brand name and engine option made it dead. Anyway i am happy with my Marazzo 😊
Just curious, where do you shop your oversized tshirt?
Request noted. 😆
Forgot cars, people are using phones while on 2 wheelers and with kid sitting back😢.
I've seen them change the reels while moving. That's very troubling to me.
@@AmP_BYD how people become so irresponsible?
Then they blame other drivers
@@ShriramRane0490 now install dashcam on 2 wheelers too
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Hi I am a college student. I am starting my two wheeler journey and need something for weekend rides and my daily home to college commutes. Should I consider a pulsar n250? Or any other choices you guys would suggest :>
A comprehensive review as always. Could you consider dropping a review about Hyundai venue adventure ?
What is hyundai doing. They have not given diesel variant to any automobile journalist for reviewing. Not a single video of diesel variant is available on RUclips
It will drive the same as the old one so why even bother??
They wouldn’t want to showcase the differences, maybe.
Could you guys do a video on the MG Hector? Cuz you guys did on harrier, Compass,Creta,Seltos and the MG Hector/Hector Plus is the only one left from this group ... Ik it's not what most people want but it's just a suggestion
Hey Harsh, noted. We’ve been wanting to get our hands on it too n
I'm thinking of booking one. We are a family of 4 adults. We live in rural area and travel a lot on the highway with loads of luggage. So I felt prestige diesel MT variant is a good fit. The way I look it is, it is fuel efficient, feature rich and comfortable. Hoping this chat will comment better alternatives if there are any ❤
Take a test drive if you're interested @trishulyvs8033. If an MPV is what you want, we'd also suggest test driving the Carens alongside it too.
I have 3 questions, 2 of them I'm posting here -
1. In context to new swift, new creta, and now alcazar, when can be a car called new model instead of facelift?
2. What exactly do you mean by platform and platform sharing and how it's different from rebadging?
Does the size of the car like Carens, xuv 700, Scorpio N and the it’s body movements on long trip can cause uneasiness & nausea to back seat (middle and 3rd row)? My family never complained of these issues in my last hatchback while they are doing it for the Carens.
Aha! Yes - the Carens is third row can definitely feel bouncy. And, that’s the one advantage the Alcazar has over the Carens.
been 1 month now, still confused btw Carens premium (o) and Creta e .which one would you pick(Father is 65+ and it is for him)
Alcazar 6s
Hi H! Is he going to be driving? And if you don’t need the extra seats why pick the Carens? Please let us know more so we can help you out.
@@motorinc Hi! Yes the car is for him, I’ll only drive it once or twice a month on long trips.My father is a bit hesitant about carens manuvering , but its hard to let go carens interiors also its cheaper than creta e. We have swift dzire 2014 right now.
I am driving Honda city from past 7 years and extremely satisfied because of low maintenance and effortless drive. Plz suggest me should I upgrade to xuv 700 or Alcazar keeping the same experience what I am having with city.
Really interesting format of review, initially I wasn’t very forthcoming but I saw the entire video and felt happy about the genuine comparison and transparency which has made me like the video. I wish if you could add on to videos and convert them into playlist by trying the other model - manual petrol bench seats etc; which will enhance the review and make it very comprehensive- will definitely make me like the video and channel more
Thanks for the suggestion and the feedback @ackeeshjames, these aren't out full reviews on the products. Just first drive impressions, once we get the vehicle from the manufacturers again we'll be covering it in a separate video.
Hello Sir, I have question. I would love to talk to you about my issue with the Valksvagen delivery. And would also love to help your viewer with the way I have been cheated by Valkswagen.
Now i understand the thumbnail 5 + 2, you guys actually give away so much in the thumbnails. Good work 😂
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Which music do you have in the intro?? Its so good
It's a MotorInc Original @AnkitGupta12! 😊
I don't think 20mm of extra wheelbase will make much of a difference in terms of interior space.
What about the actual efficiency metrics?
When we get to test it out on home ground. ❤️
Hello Guys.. love your videos.
Your conversations are very informative and researched...
When can we expect Jawa 42 FJ review???
We're waiting to ride it @abhidorle5841
Is it by choice that Kartik and Shumi are wearing a brown top/pants and sitting on a black couch representating Alcazar interiors? I just love the aesthetics of Motorinc videos! Its like everytime it sets a color tone in my brain at the start of the video and keeps it steady througout ❤
Hey Aditya! Well spotted! 🤣
Suggestion of Having checked with 6ft people sitting in all 3 rows in a single line is super way to check the comfort level of the vehicle 👌👌👌
recently went to Hyundai showroom just week before launch..Old Alcazar was not even in the list to check... Sales Guy was telling new Alcazar is coming check that, will now check this out too.. that day checked out Verna SX (NA) and Create SX Tech.. the one thing that stuck both to me & wife was Verna felt better in sense of space inside sitting..felt more luxurious and better built.. the boot of Creta I felt its small for the car of that size.. may be checking Harrier and XUV700(5 seat) earlier didn't helped Creta but still.. need as of now is a 5 seater car but that should fit in lots of stuff so a bigger boot for sure is required...research to upgrade has been on going since March, not in rush to buy and when i sit down comparing & putting check boxes on cars what they offer its the sedans (Verna / City / Slavia) that i feel better suitable.. even wife who always thought higher seating position as better now also says sedans are feeling better to her for back seat comfort..
Hey MT! Awesome! Keep us posted on what you decide. Best decision - take your time.
@@motorincfinally went for Verna Test Drive yesterday.. the budget plan is for NA variant but they had the Turbo available only..so just decided to agreed have the first experience.. Liked the light colored interior of NA, the feeling of space all was good.. But the steering.. It just feels extra weight less..compared to my current car or even the 5th Gen City I drove of my friend's.. Not sure if this is what something in steering I'll start liking over time .. . Back in 2014 first car was a Grand i10 and back then that was the only one I had tasted
@@motorinc where did the comment go .. Here it's again long story short.. Test drove the Verna Turbo as that was the only one available there.. Since the day I checked out Verna I liked the light interiors of NA.. Drive was OK except for one thing and that was the steering wheel and it's feelin..have driven recenly Friend's 5th gen Honda City and the steering felt just the right.. Currently driving a Ford so there's that.. Owned a Grand i10 2014-17 and I remember the steering on Verna matches the one on grand i10.. Back then grand i10 was the only car I had driven so I thought steerings are like that only.. But now I am not sure if the extra lightness of Verna I'll start liking that if I get a Verna
21:30 Need an entire video on roof racks. I own a Skoda Kushaq and the roof rails allow a few attachments. However, I have no clue about the regulations or the accessories and their feasibility.
Heya WS! Thanks! We’ll dig around a bit.
Hey Karthik, I work for Away India manufacturing Roofbox and they are completely legal in India as per RTI , not sure about roof rack though! Love motorinc videos btw!
Hey Nayan! Would really appreciate it if you could link us to any docs or sites where we could get clarity on this. Thanks! And great to connect with you. Will check em out.
Hey great review. I am in the market for a change. Been driving an XL6 for past 3 years. Like the Alcazar as it fits my current budget and is not as common as Creta and has tons of features. I have a hard time thinking replacement as I am pretty happy with XL6 - great space and mileage. Is Alcazar for me?
If the XL6 is running well, why change it @kdureja? 🤔
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Outdated tech and design. Safety concerns.
After 3 years the wheels need regular balancing/alignment, Maruti service folks never seem to get it right.
Would have looked at EV9 but I think electric still have some time to go. So another Petrol for next 4-5 years before shifting to EV.
The Summary by Shumi was like a threaded monolog, a full on all in Extempore 🙆🙆❤️
And the word selection to top it all 🤌🏻🤌🏻
Awesome! Thanks for that MM!
I still think spare wheels are a necessity in India no matter how much the roads "improve".
I had mentioned this incident on another MotorInc video and I think I must bring it up again...
Back in 2022 in Goa I was returning home around midnight. I was driving an XUV on one of the new concrete roads that had just opened up in Siridão-Bambolim. I was suddenly in a situation where the vehicle lost control, veered towards the island and was brought to a halt on the fast lane of the highway. I stepped out to see that the driver's side ORVM was broken but the rest of the vehicle was perfect, until I noticed that both the tyres on the driver's side were completely flat. While waiting for RSA and family members to reach the accident spot I traced my path back along the same highway and say a rod sticking out of an expansion joint about 200-300 meters away from where the XUV came to a halt.
I understand that a single spare wheel wouldn't make any difference in such a scenario but in case of a single flat tyre it can be helpful to reach somewhere safely. However, if our roads are made hastily without thorough tests or finesse then it's pointless trying to adapt to these so called 'standards' and hence be prepared for the worst no matter what.
It's a similar situation with automatic scooters losing the kick-starter when batteries or electrical & electronic systems by the manufacturers aren't that reliable.
Those are the nightmares we have to deal with. 🤦
Hi. Can you give your impressions on Windsor ev to help customers to make their decisions
Regards
Thanks for the suggestion!
Why don’t you guys create a video for hector?
Disappointed that at 5:25 ,harrier and safari name didn't come up...
Not a tata fanboy but having seen all 3 of the cars,safari is the best SUV if we r talking about highway rides and long 800 900 km rides ..I think it comes just next to innova crysta in terms of comfort and way ahead of XUV 700 and overhyped Scorpio N..
Thanks for the feedback SR!
Even 2 wheelers I see when they are on long commute watch movies on their phones mounted on their bikes. Same with Rickshaws and 4 wheelers. Split screen with Google maps and RUclips on the other.
They are missing out on life and scenic experiences
PS: Didn't realise that the comment was kinda dark 😳
KP! 😂
As Shumi puts it, Darwins theory will eventually have its way. 😂
Jokes aside, watching movies on a two wheeler is something that should lead to anywhere between suspension of license to some jailtime.
@@MrSMK21agreed
@motorinc any thought on doing an outdoor shoot? Not a review but like a "Thisconnect" episode..
Would love to see one..
Hullo again SS! Suggestion noted!
@@motorinc 😊😊
♥♥♥♥- golden colour , our first car , bought second hand , so cant hate it.
Summary spot on 👌🏽
Thank you @deepakprasad4027
what is the statewise breakdown for the roof racks legality? PS - Driving in India is not for beginners.
Hey BM! We had one of the viewers comment - he works for a company that makes rooftop boxes - they made an RTI and turns out there’s no limitation. We have asked him for links.
@@motorinc outstanding, finally some clarity
Do you think that having a 5 seater version of this with 2nd row set a slightly farther back and get a car much suited to chauffeur driven buyers. With immense boot. Massager recliner backseats could be an option as well, I guess this would be a better utilisation of the extended wheelbase than making seats for children which you don't like.
Indeed @atharvaelhankar but do you think people would be willing to buy what would then be an elongated Creta?
Good video n overall feedback of this car. They say the Roof rails r functional. For Diesel, Yes. But Would it be functional for Petrol variant also which has sunroof?
What would be the actual mileage in CITY traffic for Petrol considering the petrol is same as creta with some added power, not sure if it will go beyond 8km/l similar to creta petrol AT.
If I add spare tyre in Diesel, how much would be the mileage for Diesel variant?
With added weight, can we say it could have more strength (imagining approx 3.5 ncap )😊
Correct me if I am wrong I believe the pre-facelift Alcazar never came with the 1.4 GDI it was launched with the new 1.5 GDI after the 2.0 . The 1.5 GDI came in with the Alcazar and the interim updated seltos .
They meant 1.4 gdi which was in hyundai,kia cars...not specifically meant alcazar
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25:33 wouldn't a sunroof be considered an essential 'premium' feature? Buyers don't care that the diesel variants don't get it?
Hola! I guess we are about to find out…
Common man you mean Pune or Mumbai don't have car cafes, coz Delhi NCR has which don't offer you the sitting, but then they can offer you parking somewhere in that vicinity and the server from the cafe would serve you in your car, so now you the reason why you need picnic seats, honestly, I love it.
Thanks for sharing your POV LG!
Do you guys suggest listening to music while driving or riding?
Driving, yes. Not blaring. Riding, no.
Great video and analysis as always.
How was the ride over broken roads?
Controlled. But the 18s can feel a bit crash every now and then.
@@motorinc hopefully not a deal breaker?
I just realised, if instead of a Conference table, add a coffee table to the podcast, and this will become the Ideology of "This connect" and the commercialism of MI "First".. Me doing the Schumi camera Side look smile...
Say what!!!
My worry is, my PDI date is way 2-3 month earlier than my car book date. I am not sure how it is impactful. I feel like cheated. I don't know what action I can take against the dealership. Please guide me
That summary was amazing!
Thank you @chandrasekhargudipati3014
I just hope shumi was a car guy… cause i like his priorities of a motorcycle, i just hope i got his perspective on cars
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